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OEM PerspectiveWill it work in my engine?
Ian LoyCaterpillar Account Manager,
ATA Environment KRA, Truck Industry Council Board
Alternative Fuels Workshop
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Can I try alternative fuels?
YES- but
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Warranty
No fuel is warranted by the vehicle / engine manufacturer – even diesel
Talk is cheap – but it can save you lots– Support varies depending on
supplier so there is NO general rule
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Warranty -what happens? Warranty covers
– Workmanship & Material defects
Items not supplied by the manufacturer are not covered by manufacturer’s warranty– Fuel, oil, coolant etc bought
elsewhere
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Warranty - Manufacturer
Exclusions– Failures resulting from any
use or installation which the manufacturer judges improper.
If so judged there is no warranty no matter what the cause
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Warranty - Manufacturer
Talk to YOUR manufacturer Determine THEIR position Understand YOUR position
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Warranty– alternate fuel system and fuel
TALK to your potential suppliers
Determine their level of support
Determine if there are gaps in support
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Questions– for potential suppliers
Are you recognised by the base engine manufacturer?
Do you meet all base engine manufacturer design criteria, if so how do you have access to this proprietary information?
Does this system affect other functions of the engine?
Does it maintain ADR compliance?
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Questions – for potential suppliers
What is your warranty? What does your warranty cover
and for how long? Who will carry out any warranty
work?
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Natural Gas
TIC recommends this as a heavy duty transport fuel.
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LPG – Auto Gas
Based on current technologies available, TIC does not recommend this fuel at this point in time for heavy duty transportation.
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Propane – HD5
TIC recommends HD5 or HD10 as a heavy duty transport fuel
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Bio-Diesel
TIC recommends B5 as a heavy duty transport fuel. The biodiesel component of B5 must meet the biodiesel specification under the act
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Bio-Diesel – Other comments
Bio-Diesel is food– Places tension on pricing
Bio-Diesel LOVES water– Maintenance needs are higher
Made to a standard?– Which standard?– How consistent?
5% is “safe” for all engines– Individual suppliers may allow 30
or even 100%
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Aqua-Diesel TIC does not recommend this
product. TIC recommends that end users
who wish to use this product consult their supplier for product support and coverage.
TIC believes that the classification under section 13 of the act, where sale is to informed commercial customers and not for retail sale, is the most appropriate way of dealing with this fuel.
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Diesohol
Primarily due to the hazardous nature of diesohol, TIC does not recommend this as a heavy duty transport fuel.
TIC to push for only use with informed commercial customers, and not for forecourt sale, and handled under section 13 of the act.
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Wintermix
TIC to push for a more diesel like fuel.
Issues are–Lubricity – needed for precision fuel systems
–Density – power per litre
–Viscosity – ease of pumping
–Sulphur – damages aftertreatment systems
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General Comments
ONLY diesel is diesel ALL require change
management Can be successful – but it
takes Work and Commitment of the suppliers and users
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A word of advice
TALK
Thank You!