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WELDING JUNE 2018 CONFIRMED CONFIRMED MINUTES JUNE 19-21, 2018 LONDON, UNITED KINGDOM These minutes are not final until confirmed by the Task Group in writing or by vote at a subsequent meeting. Information herein does not constitute a communication or recommendation from the Task Group and shall not be considered as such by any agency. TUESDAY, 19-JUN-2018 to THURSDAY, 21-JUN-2018 1.0 OPENING COMMENTS – OPEN 1.1 Call to Order / Quorum Check The Welding (WLD) Task Group was called to order at 9.00 a.m., Tuesday 19-Jun-2018 by Steve Tooley. Introductions were made and the roster circulated for completion by attendees. Steve Tooley informed the Task Group that attendees must register for their names to appear in the minutes, and that name badges must be prominently displayed. It was verified that only SUBSCRIBER MEMBERS were in attendance during the closed portion of the meeting. A quorum was established with the following representatives in attendance: Subscriber Members/Participants Present (* Indicates Voting Member) NAME COMPANY NAME Julien Benoist Thales * Roy Bollig Raytheon * Mark Bredbere The Boeing Company Daniel Calderwood BAE Systems - MAI * Joakim Carlsson GKN Aerospace Sweden AB * Saeed Cheema Textron Aviation * Craig Clasper Spirit AeroSystems * Gary Coleman The Boeing Company Chris Davison Spirit AeroSystems * Rodney Deming Parker Aerospace Group * Andrew Dewhurst BAE Systems - Military Air & Information (MAI) - UK * Massimiliano Di Paola Leonardo S.p.A Divisione Velivoli Christian Filion Gulfstream
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WELDING JUNE 2018

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CONFIRMED MINUTESJUNE 19-21, 2018

LONDON, UNITED KINGDOM

These minutes are not final until confirmed by the Task Group in writing or by vote at a subsequent meeting. Information herein does not constitute a communication or recommendation from the Task Group and shall not be considered as such by any agency.

TUESDAY, 19-JUN-2018 to THURSDAY, 21-JUN-2018

1.0 OPENING COMMENTS – OPEN

1.1 Call to Order / Quorum Check

The Welding (WLD) Task Group was called to order at 9.00 a.m., Tuesday 19-Jun-2018 by Steve Tooley.

Introductions were made and the roster circulated for completion by attendees.

Steve Tooley informed the Task Group that attendees must register for their names to appear in the minutes, and that name badges must be prominently displayed.

It was verified that only SUBSCRIBER MEMBERS were in attendance during the closed portion of the meeting.

A quorum was established with the following representatives in attendance:

Subscriber Members/Participants Present (* Indicates Voting Member)

NAME COMPANY NAME

Julien Benoist Thales* Roy Bollig Raytheon* Mark Bredbere The Boeing Company

Daniel Calderwood BAE Systems - MAI* Joakim Carlsson GKN Aerospace Sweden AB* Saeed Cheema Textron Aviation* Craig Clasper Spirit AeroSystems* Gary Coleman The Boeing Company

Chris Davison Spirit AeroSystems* Rodney Deming Parker Aerospace Group* Andrew Dewhurst BAE Systems - Military Air & Information

(MAI) - UK* Massimiliano Di Paola Leonardo S.p.A Divisione Velivoli

Christian Filion GulfstreamOliver Fletcher Eaton, Aerospace Group

* Milan Hanyk Honeywell Aerospace* Les Hellemann GE Aviation Secretary* Jerry Hulin GKN Aerospace Filton* Michael Irvin The Boeing Company* Alex Joy GKN Aerospace Filton* Ralph Kropp MTU Aero Engines AG* Holger Krueger Airbus Commercial Aircraft Vice Chairperson* Dag Lindland Pratt & Whitney* Joe Lundin UTC Aerospace (Goodrich)* Scott Maitland UTC Aerospace (Goodrich)* Joel Mohnacky UTC Aerospace (Hamilton Sundstrand)* José A. Moreno Airbus Defence and Space* Timothy Nance Rockwell Collins, Inc.

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Paul Northcott Eaton, Aerospace GroupCharles Parker Honeywell Aerospace

* Marco Luigi Poletto Leonardo S.p.A Divisione Velivoli* Raman Ras Parker Aerospace Group* Hana Renstrom Lockheed Martin Corporation

Allen Schrandt Textron Aviation* Paul Slater Rockwell Collins, Inc.* Steve Tooley Rolls-Royce Chairperson

Stanley Trull Honeywell Aerospace* Akie Uchida Mitsubishi Heavy Industries* Gerhard Westenrieder MTU Aero Engines AG

Other Members/Participants Present (* Indicates Voting Member)

NAME COMPANY NAME

Jasmin Adel MBFZ toolcraft GmbH* Giuseppe Ambrogio Piaggio Aero Industries

Gareth Armstrong Bodycote Heat Treatments LtdEurico Assuncao European Welding Federation

* Graham Buswell SPS Aerostructures LtdKay Fisher Voestalphine BohlerRichard Freeman TWI LtdSiri Hessen GKN Aerospace Norway

* Andrew Jackson AMPP Services LtdDennis Johnson JPW LtdSimon Krauer Franke Industrie AG

* Grant Lilley Meyer Tool, Inc.Jan Majoress Otto Fuchs KGKenji Nakamura IHI CorporationJon Porter Renishaw

* Bruno Roost Franke Industrie AG* Yasemin Seref Cizioglu TEI TUSAS ENGINE INDUSTRIES INC.

Junji Tsuji IHI Corporation* Christopher Webb PCC Structurals Inc.

PRI / SAE Staff Present

Gabriel KustraIan Simpson

1.2 Safety Information – OPEN

The participants were notified of the meeting safety requirements.

1.3 Review Code of Ethics (Ref: Attendees’ Guide) and Meeting Conduct – OPEN

The Code of Ethics and Meeting Conduct policies were reviewed.

1.4 Present the Antitrust Video – OPEN

The Antitrust policy video was shown.

1.5 Review Agenda – OPEN

Ian Simpson reviewed the agenda for the meeting. New business items were identified for inclusion in section 6.0 (closed meeting). No new business items were identified for section 22.0 (open meeting).

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1.6 Approval of Previous Meeting Minutes – OPEN

Motion made by Saeed Cheema and seconded by Marco Poletto to accept the February 2018 Nadcap meeting minutes. Motion passed.

1.7 Rolling Action Item List (RAIL) Review – OPEN

The RAIL was reviewed by Ian Simpson. Many of the action items are closed or are included in this meeting for further discussion. There are however 4 action items with a due date prior to this meeting that remain outstanding:

308 – Subscribers to provide the details of Suppliers that they intend to have audited to the new Additive Manufacturing checklist. Some responses have been received, but this remains outstanding for the majority of Subscribers.

494 – Annual Auditor evaluation content. The PRI team has not yet completed their work, hence WLD have been unable to complete any reviews to date.

533 – Pratt and Whitney Auditor Conference training material.

560 – Sub-team of Steve Tooley, Holger Krueger and Ian Simpson to review audits and provide required data to NMC on merit change. This was an action from the Nadcap Management Council (NMC), but was subsequently placed on hold due to the NMC needing to clarify requirements.

For specific details, please see the current WLD Rolling Action Item List posted at www.eAuditNet.com, under Public Documents.

1.8 Staff Engineer Communiqué – OPEN

Ian Simpson presented a Nadcap Communiqué to the Task Group.

1.8.1 The next Nadcap Task Group meeting will be in Pittsburgh, PA. This meeting will also host the second split Auditor Conference. i.e. US Auditors will receive annual training at this meeting.

1.8.2 A Summary of changes made to General Operating procedures since the last Task Group meeting was presented.

OP 1105 (Audit Process) revised 01-May-2018 with an effectivity date of 29-Jul-2018. Added requirement for self-audit to include job audits; requirement for Suppliers to identify their Subscriber customers; requirement for auditor verification of corrective actions after the withdrawal of an accreditation.

OP 1110 (Audit Failure) revised 15-Mar-2018 with an effectivity date of 17-Jun-2018. Update of Mode B failure criteria. Note that WLD failure criteria were not revised.

OP 1111 (Merit Program) revised 15-Mar-2018 with an effectivity date of 17-Jun-2018. Update based on changes of OP 1110 Mode B failure criteria. Note that WLD merit criteria were not revised.

OP 1112 (NMC Oversight Activities) revised 01-May-2018. Added requirement for annual oversight of PRI Internal Corrective Action Requests (ICAR); removed requirement to audit Option B HQ audits annually; removed target completion dates from the audit schedule; removed requirement for Quality Manager to review observation responses for adequacy; added Nadcap Director approval for observation responses.

OP 1114 (Task Group Operation) revised 27-Apr-2018. Added requirement for Task Groups to define a compliance evaluation process when aerospace work is not available; Added requirement for Task Groups to define a process for when delegation criteria are not maintained; expanded on controls to deny merit and requiring Verification of Corrective Action (VCA) audits.

OP 1116 (Auditor Staffing) revised 22-Mar-2018. Elimination of controlled form for Auditor Candidate application (incorporated directly into online Auditor recruiting tool); added

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clarification that the Staff Engineer makes the decision to upgrade a trainee to Auditor; changed ‘Supplier’ to ‘Auditee’.

OP 1123 (Supplier Support Committee) revised 15-May-2018. Changed requirement for approving Task Group Supplier Support Committee representative.

1.8.4 A Summary of changes made to the WLD specific Operating procedures since the last Task Group meeting was presented.

1.8.5 No Changes to either OP 1114 Appendix WLD (Task Group Operation Appendix WLD) or OP 1116 Appendix WLD (Auditor Staffing Appendix WLD) have occurred since the February 2018 Task Group meeting. Ian Simpson however noted that OP 1116 Appendix WLD has just been approved and will be issued imminently.

2.0 AUDITOR CONFERENCE – CLOSED

The first split Auditor Conference was completed the day prior to this Task Group meeting. At this conference, European and Asian auditors were trained. The same training material will be used at the October Auditor Conference for US based Auditors.

The Task Group reviewed content and agreed that it had been an effective training session, with good feedback and questions from the auditors. All auditors were noted as participating in discussions.

Based on the review of this conference, items identified by the auditors, previously identified training items, and the review of Auditor Consistency per OP 1117, the following items were noted for possible inclusion in next year’s Auditor Conference. The Task Group will make a final determination of content once the October Conference is complete and hence feedback from all sector Auditors has been received:

Subscribers to perform specific training on their requirements. Jerry Hulin and Rodney Deming stated that they would be interested in providing training next year. Jerry Hulin commented that he can include the perspective of both Subscriber and Supplier.

Question and Answer session. AWS / ISO update, including updates on Additive Manufacturing from the relevant

standards committees for this process. This would also likely include resistance welding to AWS D17.2 as the intention is for this specification to be revised in 2018.

Opportunity for Auditor feedback on checklist content etc. Training items resulting from OP1117 analysis. Sanitized data from Supplier feedback. Provision for face-to-face meetings with Auditors for annual reviews. Provision for NMC Audit Effectiveness. Handbook training – use of during audit and as part of audit preparation. Have an auditor develop training on time management. Training from Heat Treatment on System Accuracy Test and Temperature Uniformity

Surveys. Weld Failures. Examples of where process control could have avoided these.

Ian Simpson informed the Task Group that face-to-face discussions with auditors may be required at the October meeting as the revision of the Annual Auditor Reports will likely be completed in time to allow the annual reviews to be completed prior to this meeting. It was previously noted that should European and Asian Auditors require a discussion with the Task Group that this would be conducted using Webex. (see item 3.1.1 for further discussion).

3.0 AUDITOR EFFECTIVENESS – CLOSED

3.1 Review of OP 1117

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The Auditor Consistency procedure (OP 1117) requires the Task Group to review several items as part of the process to monitor and ensure consistency among its Auditors.

The following items were discussed:

3.1.1 Annual Review of Auditors

Work continues on the standardization of the Auditor Annual Reviews within PRI. It is still anticipated that the annual report format will be concluded in sufficient time to allow the annual feedback to be given prior to the October Auditor Conference for auditors attending this session. Assuming this to be the case, the annual reviews will be completed by Staff Engineers, reviewed and discussed with the Task Group Chair and sent to Auditors by 30-Sep-2018, as noted in a previously defined action. Discussion, where necessary, will be conducted by the Staff Engineers, and Auditors given the opportunity to discuss their annual reviews face-to-face with a Task Group member.

Annual reviews for European and Asian Auditors will also be created and the same process employed, with the exception that any request for discussion with the Task Group will be conducted by Webex.

The Task Group was notified that the annual reviews will also no longer be posted in the Task Group private forum page. The Task Group will be able to review the Annual Reviews at Task Group meetings though if they desire.

3.1.2 Deep Dive analysis of an Auditor’s performance and audit style

At the February 2018 Task Group meeting, several actions were assigned to review the effectiveness of an auditor as well as to establish that the correct audit protocols were being adhered to:

Ian Simpson discussed the Task Group concerns directly with the Auditor.

Jerry Hulin conducted a review of this Auditor’s effectiveness by reviewing Auditor Effectiveness charts and specific audits in eAuditNet. Jerry presented his conclusions to the Task Group. Although some of the perceived traits were identified, the vast majority of audits were acceptable, and he is comparable to his peers. Overall the auditor was determined to be, in general, a competent auditor meeting Nadcap requirements.

Gabe Kustra completed an on-site observation of the Auditor and reported that all of the items of concern had been addressed and that the audit was performed as required.

Ian Simpson has discussed the auditor performance with 11 Suppliers. 7 were performed prior to the concerns discussion and 4 since. There was only one Supplier who noted one of the traits the Task Group had concerns on. This was on one of the audits prior to the concerns discussion. There were no issues noted on any of the audits since the discussion.

An Observation has also occurred. There were a number of issues noted. Ian Simpson had already provided feedback to the auditor and responses received from him. This information was also reviewed by the Task Group.

As a result, while the Task Group decided that they do not appear to have any significant issues, they do still wish to have periodic monitoring. Jerry Hulin agreed to continue to review the auditor’s audits and Supplier Feedback, and Ian Simpson will periodically contact some suppliers to discuss time management issues.

ACTION ITEM: Jerry Hulin to continue to review an identified auditor’s audit effectiveness including Supplier Feedback response. (Due Date: 23-Oct-2018)

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ACTION ITEM: Ian Simpson to discuss time management aspects of an identified auditor with the suppliers he audited. (Due Date: 23-Oct-2018)

3.1.3 Auditor Performance Data Set Charts

The current Auditor performance data set charts (Non-Conformance Reports (NCRs)) per audit day, NCRs per checklist paragraph, red-line, and Auditor Variation) were reviewed by the Task Group.

Although no longer directly involved with the WLD Task Group, former Subscriber Voting Member, Mario Leclerc of Bombardier has been continuing to develop an assessment tool that primarily uses data from the standard NCRs per checklist paragraph chart. This modified assessment allows drill down on specific checklist and auditor data, and has been found by the Task Group to be the most effective way of analyzing auditor performance. The modified tool was demonstrated and the Task Group agreed that this revised version is even better than the prior version. The Task Group requested all charts to be posted in the Task Group private forum in eAuditNet.

ACTION ITEM: Ian Simpson to post auditor effectiveness charts in the Task Group Work Area in eAuditNet. (Due Date: 15-Jul-2018)

The Task Group did not identify any improvements that would be required in Task Group documentation (e.g. checklists or handbooks) as a direct result of this analysis.

3.1.4 Observation Reports

The Task Group reviewed 6 observations covering 5 auditors. (Excluding the one referenced in para 3.1.2)

Except for the following comments, these reviews were deemed acceptable by the Observers.

One observation noted that the Auditor may benefit from some additional eAuditNet training. Ian Simpson arranged for this to occur, however in follow-up discussion with the Auditor, he confirmed that he had managed to navigate the issue he was having, and on that basis no longer required this training.

Another observation noted numerous items for improvement; audit agenda, introduction of program / Observers, audit scope, very brief daily debrief and verification of customer specification requirements. The Staff Engineer summarized these items for the Auditor immediately after the Observation report was submitted. The Auditor was extremely pro-active in answering and committing to addressing the noted items. The majority of these items were also covered in the Auditor Conference preceding this meeting and will be utilized again at the October Auditor Conference.

Another observation noted that while the Auditor informed the Supplier of the NCRs at the Outbrief, the actual verbiage of the NCRs was not provided at this time. Also, the requirements for responding to NCRs was not provided. There were also, a few of suggestions about checklist / handbook improvements. These are however open agenda items and were discussed in item 21.

ACTION ITEM: Ian Simpson to provide feedback to Auditors based on Observation feedback. (Due Date: 15-Jul-2018)

3.1.5 Auditor Observation Plan

The observation plan for 2018 was developed at the October 2017 Task Group meeting using the prioritization tool that the Task Group has developed, and was revised at the February 2018 meeting.

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Since February 2018, one of the new hired Auditors has notified PRI of his intention to resign as he has been offered full-time employment. As such he needs to be removed from the Observation plan.

The Task Group reviewed the Observation Plan to establish progress. To date, of the 4 identified risk Auditors, 2 have been Observed. Of the 7 new Auditors (this was 8 but has reduced to 7 based on the resignation of one new Auditor), 4 have been observed.

The Task Group was reminded of the OP 1117 requirements and that failure to observe the defined Auditors will require declaration to the NMC. Subscribers were therefore encouraged to observe those identified Auditors.

The Task Group was also reminded that there are several auditors who are not high risk but have not been observed for a number of years. These auditors are defined as ‘Routine’ in the Observation plan and should take precedence to those with no annotation.

Ian Simpson provided a demonstration of how eAuditNet can be searched to find the required auditor’s schedules. Subscriber members noted potential audits that they (or at least people from their organizations) could observe.

ACTION ITEM: Ian Simpson to update the Observation plan and post in the Task Group work forum. (Due Date: 31-Jul-2018)

3.1.6 Review Dashboard

The dashboard metrics, as required by OP 1117, were reviewed. All of the four metrics are green.

It was noted that while the number of observation metrics is green there are still 5 risk / new auditors who have to be observed this year to meet the observation plan. Failure to meet the plan will require the Task Group to notify NMC.

3.1.7 Identify Training Needs for Auditors

The review of data defined here, and from section 2.0, has resulted in a number of training items at the 2018 Auditor Conference. The Task Group also identified a number of items for consideration in the 2019 Auditor Conference.

3.1.8 NMC Annual Report

The Task Group compiled the Annual NMC review at the October 2017 meeting and actioned Steve Tooley to submit this to the NMC. This was revised in December 2017 to reflect the end of year observation status, and it was submitted to NMC. The report noted that the 2017 observation plan was not completed as one new auditor planned for observation was not observed. To date there has been no feedback from NMC. The Task Group asked Steve Tooley to make note of this lack of feedback from the NMC at the Planning and Operations meeting. (See item 18 for information on this discussion).

3.1.9 Actions required by NMC Audit Effectiveness Team

The NMC Audit Effectiveness project is nearing completion.

There is one item that the NMC sub-team still require information on:

Audit Language: obtain feedback from Auditors regarding difficulties when the audit is conducted in a language not spoken by the Auditor.

NMC asked for feedback to be obtained during Auditor Conferences.

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Ian Simpson discussed with Auditors at the June Auditor Conference, and feedback will be provided to the NMC. This will also be discussed at the October Auditor Conference.

ACTION ITEM: Ian Simpson to provide audit language feedback information to the NMC. (Due Date: 31-Jul-2018)

3.1.10 OP 1117 items not requiring review at this meeting

There are a number of items that OP 1117 requires the Task Group to review on a periodic basis. All of the items were reviewed at the February 2018 Task Group meeting; hence the following items were not reviewed at this meeting:

Supplier feedback data Audit Report Reviewer feedback Communication plan Weld specific appendix to the Observer form Weld specific training Proficiency testing

The next Supplier feedback data for the period January – June 2018 will be available prior to the October 2018 Task Group meeting. The sub-group, which consists of Steve Tooley and Ian Simpson, will review and present the summary at the October 2018 Task Group meeting.

As the Auditor Conference occurs prior to the Task Group meeting in October, the Task Group agreed that any generic items seen in the 6-month data review should be added in the October training.

ACTION ITEM: Steve Tooley and Ian Simpson to review the Supplier feedback data, include any pertinent items in the Auditor Conference and present to the Task Group at the October meeting. (Due Date: 23-Oct-2018)

3.2 Auditor Status

The Staff Engineer gave an update of new auditor candidates and the status of process restriction removals for current auditors.

4.0 SUPPLIER ADVISORIES – CLOSED

4.1 Review of Advisories since June 2017 Nadcap Meeting.

2 Supplier Advisories have been issued by the WLD Task Group since the February 2018 Task Group meeting; #3139 and #3144. These were reviewed by the Task Group.

Supplier Advisory 3144 was a Type C (Confirmed Product Impact) advisory. Per OP 1109 (Supplier Advisories), when a Type C Supplier Advisory is issued the Task Group must consider if the existing accreditation be suspended or withdrawn. The Task Group Chair convened an ad-hoc Task Group meeting on 8-May-2018 to discuss this and ultimately, those present voted to withdraw the associated accreditation, due to the seriousness of the issues. The Task Group discussed how they could possibly revise checklists to uncover such situations (Un-authorized weld repairs) however they determined that deliberate unauthorized repairs were not something that could be found by simply revising checklists.

There was concern expressed that the Supplier is able to simply schedule a new WLD audit after 90 days and because the Type C advisory was not the direct result of a Nadcap audit, there is no process for review of the issues that caused issuance of the advisory. The Task Group asked Steve Tooley to make note of this issue at the Planning and Operations meeting. (See item 18 for information on this discussion).

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3 Supplier Advisories were issued by other commodities that could have an effect on the WLD accreditations. These advisories, #3141, #3159 and #3162 were reviewed.

Supplier Advisory #3159 is a type C issued by NDT. This Supplier also holds a WLD accreditation, and as such the WLD Task Group must determine if the issues reported warrant the suspension / withdrawal of the WLD accreditation. After some discussion it was concluded that this issue is specific to the inspection of the hardware, and that there is no indication of the weld process being affected.

Motion made by Les Hellemann seconded by Gary Coleman not to take any action at this time on supplier advisory #3159 since welding process was not involved. Motion passed.

The Task Group however agreed that should additional information become available that demonstrates the control of the welding process has been affected, then the Task Group will revisit this item.

ACTION ITEM: Ian Simpson to post notes in audit 179473 to note WLD decision with respect to Supplier Advisory #3159. (Due Date: 15-Jul-2018)

4.2 Review of Subscriber Advisories.

No Subscriber Advisories were brought up for discussion by the Task Group.

5.0 STAFF ENGINEER DELEGATION – CLOSED

5.1 Review of Staff Engineer Delegation

The Staff Engineer reviewed data for Audit Report Reviewers using delegation oversight form t-frm-07, which includes percentage oversight by the Task Group, percentage of NCRs concurred with by the Task Group, minimum number of audits per year, and other items pertaining to audit completeness. All requirements of OP 1115 (Delegation of Audit Report Reviewer) were met for the delegated Audit Report Reviewers and the following motions were made:

Motion made by Saeed Cheema and seconded by Michael Irvin to maintain Ian Simpson’s delegation. Motion Passed.

Motion made by Saeed Cheema and seconded by Michael Irvin to maintain Gabe Kustra’s delegation. Motion Passed.

Motion made by Saeed Cheema and seconded by Michael Irvin to maintain Mike Gutridge’s delegation. Motion Passed.

Motion made by Saeed Cheema and seconded by Michael Irvin to maintain Wayne Canary’s delegation. Motion Passed.

6.0 NEW BUSINESS – CLOSED

6.1 NCRs associated with incomplete definition on a Subscriber approved Fixed Process Approval

Andy Toth asked the Task Group to review audit 182272 NCR 2. The NCR in question is related to the welding operator’s instructions missing critical information, in the Auditor’s opinion. The parts had Fixed Process Approval, and Andy requested the Task Group to determine if Auditors should / should not be issuing NCRs when a Supplier has a Customer approved instruction.

There was much discussion, some members noting that an auditor should not raise issues while others believed NCRs could be issued. As Andy was not present at the meeting, the Task Group was not able to fully understand the Rolls-Royce Corporation requirements and due to a sanitized NCR (to prevent disclosure of EC material) this could not be fully gleaned from the NCR description. It was noted that the Heat Treat Task Group have included a matrix in their handbook

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that states whether NCRs can be issued on this subject per Subscriber. The WLD Task Group members decided not to create a similar matrix. It was also noted that the Task Group has spent considerable time training auditors to dig deep into issues and does not want to discourage this behavior. As such no specific guidance is to be given to auditors about writing NCRs against Fixed Process Approvals, instead opting to void NCRs where appropriate in consultation with the relevant Task Group member.

6.2 Task Group Corrective Action Request

The NMC are piloting a process where Task Groups are required to investigate when a Subscriber reports significant issues at an Nadcap accredited source. The Weld Task Group were asked to pilot this process prior to it being formally proceduralized. The Task Group Chair was provided with a report from Lockheed Martin on 16-Apr-2018 and per the proposed draft process to have performed Root Cause Corrective action and returned the form for NMC review within 90 days. As the timeframe for response was limited, Steve Tooley appointed an ad-hoc team comprised of Subscribers who use the Supplier to perform the investigation. At the first sub-team meeting it was noted that the information provided had many items but very little detail, and as such Lockheed Martin was asked to provide additional information to allow a thorough investigation. Unfortunately, due to the time lapse, no additional information was forthcoming, hence Steve Tooley requested that the review be discontinued. While this was agreed by Lockheed Martin’s NMC representative, he did ask that the NMC be appraised of the Task Group recommendations. These were provided and included:

The need for issues to be provided to the Task Groups as soon as possible. The information provided should give sufficient detail to allow the Task Group to

understand the issues. The need for Subscribers to understand that checklists are consensus documents and do

not necessarily test each and every requirement in a specific standard. The need for Subscribers to perform a gap analysis between the checklist and their

requirements and to add unique requirements in a Supplemental checklist.

Although a detailed analysis could not be performed due to the reasons cited, some opportunities for improvement in the resistance weld checklist were noted. As checklist revision discussion is an open agenda item, these were included in agenda item 21.

6.3 Auditors are able to provide a private communication to Subscribers in the audit report. The Task Group asked if the Audit Report Reviewers could provide any pertinent comments directly to the relevant Task Group member.

ACTION ITEM: Ian Simpson to notify WLD Audit Report Reviewers to forward any relevant Auditor Notes to the appropriate Task Group member. (Due Date: 15-Jul-2018)

7.0 REVIEW MEMBERSHIP STATUS – OPEN

7.1 Confirm Any New Voting Member Applications

The following requests for additions or changes to voting membership were received and confirmed by the Task Group Chairperson pending verification of PD 1100 requirements. The Nadcap Membership form, m-frm-01, were completed as necessary.

Subscriber Voting Member: UVM Supplier Voting Member: SVM Alternate: ALT Task Group Chairperson: CHR Vice Chairperson: VCH Secretary: SEC

First Name Surname Company Position: Meetings Attended

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(new / updated role)

(Month/Year)

Giuseppe Ambrogio Piaggio Aero Industries

New SVM Feb 2018 Jun 2018

Rodney Deming Parker Aerospace

New UVM Oct 2017 Jun 2018

Massimiliano Di Paola Leonardo S.p.A Divisione Velivoli

New ALT/UVM Feb 2018 Jun 2018

Tim Nance Rockwell Collins

New ALT/UVM Oct 2017 Jun 2018

Raman Ras Parker Aerospace

New ALT/UVM Feb 2018 Jun 2018

Hana Renstrom Lockheed Martin

New UVM Feb 2018 Jun 2018

Bruno Roost Franke Industrie AG

New SVM Feb 2018 Jun 2018

ACTION ITEM: PRI to make changes to Voting status as noted in the table within the minutes. (Due Date: 31-Jul-2018)

Lockheed Martin notified that with the appointment of Hana Renstrom as their UVM, George Kaniamos is to be removed as UVM for Lockheed Martin

ACTION ITEM: PRI to remove George Kaniamos as UVM for Lockheed Martin. (Due Date: 31-Jul-2018)

7.2 Review Compliance with Voting Requirements of Present Voting Members

The compliance to voting requirements per PD 1100 was reviewed.

There was no delinquency with respect to meeting attendance.

In terms of balloting, the review identified that Airbus Helicopter, BAE Systems E&I, BAE Systems MAI, Bombardier, Leonardo Helicopters, LAI, Meyer Tool and Pako all missed 2 consecutive letter ballots. (It was noted that LAI and Pako did vote on the last letter ballot and it was the 2 prior to this that were missed). PD 1100 requirements have not therefore been met in order to retain membership.

The Voting members of all delinquent companies were notified prior to the meeting. Responses from Bombardier, Leonardo Helicopters, LAI, Meyer Tool and Pako were received. In each case, apologies and commitment to future ballot participation were received. On this basis, Steve Tooley agreed to maintain their voting status.

At this time no responses from Airbus Helicopter, BAE Systems E&I and BAE Systems MAI have been received. Steve Tooley agreed to contact the members of these groups to give them a final opportunity to provide reasons for delinquency. If acceptable responses are received, Steve

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agreed that voting status will be maintained. However, failure to respond, or failure to provide commitment to voting on future ballots will result in voting status being removed.

ACTION ITEM: Steve Tooley to request responses from the voting members of Airbus Helicopter, BAE Systems E&I and BAE Systems MAI on the reasons for ballot delinquency and future commitment to this process. (Due Date: 15-Jul-2018)

ACTION ITEM: PRI to remove voting status of members from Airbus Helicopter, BAE Systems E&I and BAE Systems MAI if no / inadequate responses are received with respect to their future ballot voting commitment. (Due Date: 31-Jul-2018)

7.3 New Supplier Representatives for the Supplier Support Committee (SSC)

The WLD Task Group have had an open SSC position since June 2017 when Mike Schleckman resigned from the position. There have been no volunteers for this position to date.

At this meeting, newly appointed SVM, Bruno Roost volunteered to be the SSC representative for the WLD Task Group. There were no other volunteers for this role.

Task Group Voting Members voted Bruno Roost as their representative at SSC.

Per OP 1123 (Supplier Support Committee), the SSC Chair has to confirm this position. As such the Staff Engineer was actioned to notify SSC Secretary, in order for this confirmation to be confirmed in SSC meeting minutes and reporting at a NMC Steering meeting.

ACTION ITEM: Ian Simpson to notify the SSC Secretary that Bruno Roost has been approved by the WLD Task Group to represent them at SSC level in order for this to be recorded in the SSC minutes and NMC Steering notified. (Due Date: 30-Jun-2018)

8.0 VICE-CHAIR SUCCESSION – OPEN

8.1 At the February 2018 Task Group meeting, Holger Krueger notified the Task Group that he would be retiring in mid-2019 and would step down as vice-Chair for the successor to gain the required experience in preparation for when the Chair tenure comes to an end. Holger addressed the Task Group to explain his reasons for stepping down as vice-Chair.

Milan Hanyk volunteered to be considered for this position. No other candidates volunteered.

Although procedures do not require the Task Group to vote on the appointment of a vice-Chair, the Task Group unanimously agreed to the appointment of Milan to this position.

This appointment was confirmed by the Task Group Chair. Milan completed a m-frm-01 to recognize the vice-Chair status.

To align with the previous date changes of leadership roles, Holger will step down from vice-Chair at the end of June, and Milan Hanyk will become the vice-Chair at this time.

ACTION ITEM: PRI to remove vice-Chair status of Holger Krueger, and add Milan Hanyk as the new vice-Chair. (Due Date: 30-Jun-2018)

9.0 SUPPLIER SUPPORT COMMITTEE (SSC) REPORT – OPEN

9.1 Ian Simpson presented the SSC report. The report gave information on the SSC role, current activities, the mentoring program, Business Development Tool, SSC Helpdesk, and SSC initiatives and events. The SSC provides an avenue for Suppliers to have input and give feedback to the Nadcap program, and provides answers and support for Suppliers who have questions and problems.

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The SSC sponsored events at this meeting include keys to a successful audit, eAuditNet supplier tutorial, how to become a Supplier Voting Member (SVM), and on-line resources for suppliers.

The SSC 2017 Supplier Survey closed on 28-Feb-2018. Since the survey closure the SSC Leadership Team have been reviewing and analyzing the results. These were presented at the SSC General Meeting on 19-Jun-2018. The survey results assist the SSC Leadership Team identify Supplier needs and define the direction the SSC needs to move forward with.

An Auditee Communication kit is now sent to all auditees when an audit is scheduled.

10.0 NMC METRICS – OPEN

10.1 Ian Simpson reviewed the NMC metrics, including:

Accreditations Issued/Lapsed, Eligible Merit, On-Time Certification, Staff Cycle Time Initial, Staff Cycle Time Reaccreditation, Task Group Cycle Time Initial, Task Group Cycle Time Reaccreditation, Supplier Cycle Time Initial, Supplier Cycle Time Reaccreditation. All metric charts for the period ending 31-May-18 were green, except Task Group Cycle Time for Initial and Reaccreditation, which were yellow. These non-green metrics have been previously discussed and the Task Group chose to take no further action.

The Staff Engineer noted that the monthly metrics (Feb-2018 to Apr-2018) since the last Task Group meeting were reviewed and no red metrics have occurred in this period.

11.0 SPECIFICATION CHANGES – OPEN

11.1 Gary Coleman provided an update on the status of American Welding Society (AWS) specifications.

AWS D17.1 (2017) – The need for a 2nd amendment has been identified to correct Table 5.5 and the footnotes of table 7.1. Work has already started on a 4th edition although this will not be released until 2020/2021. This will include items from recent enquiries and items that were deferred from the last revision.

AWS D17.2 – Anticipated release is now 3rd quarter 2018. The major revision items are visual acuity testing and personnel training (operators performing testing, metallographic evaluation and visual inspection). Some new business items have been identified.

o Clarify intent of Design Certification and Standard Certification Methods.

o Address definition of “Coring”. Coring is defined but not referenced in specification.

o Review Table 10 for applicability, Table 12 for acceptance criteria, tables do not align.

o Annex for UT inspection of resistance welds being considered.

o Definition of Production Time – continue to clarify intent.

o Address process completion and rework of nonconforming welds.

AWS D17.3 - 3rd edition is being worked on. Section 8.2 being revised to allow WPS qualification on identical machines with limited testing; commentary section being written for joint tracking, joint line remnant (residual oxide defect), exit hole closure, inspection frequency of stir tools. Section 8.2.3 being revised to add test specimen configuration and acceptance criteria. Scott Rose is a new co-chair for this sub-committee.

The next AWS D17 Committee meeting will be in conjunction with FABTECH, 6-8-Nov- 2018 in Atlanta, GA, USA.

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Holger Krueger presented updates for ISO/TC44/SC14 (Welding in Aerospace) and ISO/TC261/JWG5 (Additive Manufacturing (AM) in Aerospace)

The following items were noted for ISO/TC44/SC14.

ISO 24394 (Welder and welding operator qualification test). This is in final draft status.

ISO 17927 (Fusion welding of metallic components in aerospace). Part 1 has been approved and is in Committee draft ballot.

A process specification for brazing of metallic aerospace components has been approved as a new project (ISO/PWI 22161). The initial development will be based on the existing DIN 65170.

A future new standard on electron beam and laser beam welding can be started once the existing EN 4677-001 is withdrawn.

Linear and orbital friction welding are potential future processes; however, the proprietary nature of these processes means that this might not be pursued.

The Chairman of the Committee (Holger Krueger) has announced his retirement in June 2019.

The following items were noted for ISO/TC261/JWG5 (Additive Manufacturing in Aerospace)

This new Joint Working Group first met in October 2017.

The working group had already agreed to work on the following items;

o Acceptance testing of powder-bed fusion AM machines for metallic materials for aerospace. This project is approved (ISO ASTM NP52941) and will be based on DIN 35224.

o Qualification of operators for AM powder bed equipment used in aerospace applications. This project is approved (ISO ASTM NP 52942) and will be based on DIN 35225.

o Process specification for direct energy deposition used in aerospace applications. A DIN Committee is currently developing a specification that can be used as the basis for this process, and will become ISO ASTM PWI 52943.

o Process specification and quality requirements for aerospace hardware produced with AM. This specification will be ISO ASTM PWI 52944.

A draft on ‘Additive Manufacturing – System performance and reliability – Standard test method for acceptance of powder-bed fusion machines for metallic materials for aerospace application’ is nearly complete. First comments that had been received were resolved. Discussions were mostly with respect to the different laser beam characteristics and laser focus thermal drift. Actions are being taken with respect to testing on laser machines to ensure these items are feasible. At this time this standard will be specific to laser beam equipment; electron beam machines will be covered in the future using the same concept.

Discussion on a draft for ‘Qualification of operators for AM powder bed based equipment used in aerospace applications’ continued. It was decided to add electron beam machines operators to the scope.

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The next ISO Committee meetings are planned for 15-17 October 2018 at either Boeing (Seattle) or AWS (Miami). The Welding Committee will meet 15-Oct-2018 and the AM Committee will meet 16/17-Oct-2018.

Gary Coleman and Holger Krueger gave permission for the AWS and ISO Committee updates to be posted in eAuditNet. This will be added to the Public Documents section for Welding (Resources / Documents / Public Documents / Task Groups / Welding / Data Folder).

ACTION ITEM: Ian Simpson to post the AWS and ISO Committee update presentations in eAuditNet. (Due Date: 31-Jul-18)

12.0 REVIEW REVISION TO AWS D17.2 – OPEN

12.1 Per Gary Coleman’s report in 11.1 the new revision of AWS D17.2 has not yet been released, hence discussion on changes will be deferred to the next meeting. There are however already a number of proposed items to consider for revision in the AC7110/4 (Resistance Welding) checklist. These were reviewed and it was decided that in advance of the new revision of AWS D17.2 being issued, that a sub-team be formed to start the review of this checklist. Holger Krueger (Sub-team Leader), Marco Poletto, Dag Lindland, Paul Slater and Gary Coleman agreed to be on a sub-team for this review, and agreed to start reviewing the already proposed suggestions for revision of this checklist.

ACTION ITEM: Ian Simpson to include agenda item for review of AC7110/4 checklist revision to the October 2018 agenda. (Due Date: 13-Jul-2018)

ACTION ITEM: Sub-team of Holger Krueger, Marco Poletto, Dag Lindland, Paul Slater and Gary Coleman to initiate review of AC7110/4 checklist revision items and provide update at the October 2018 Task Group meeting. (Due Date: 24-Oct-2018)

13.0 AUDITOR CONFERENCE SUMMARY – OPEN

13.1 The Auditor Conference was held at the weekend preceding the Task Group meeting. The Staff Engineer presented a summary of the items / discussions that occurred, which included:

Auditor Consistency including recap of OP 1117 and Supplier feedback comments. Update on Audit items: Auditor Advisories, Checklist revisions, Handbook revisions, NMC

Audit Effectiveness (audit language), Time to provide objective evidence, WPS setting traceability, Self-audits, Job audit selection.

Lockheed Martin, Cessna, Airbus and GE specific training. Update on specification revisions (AWS and ISO). Audit preparation. On-site audit introductions / protocol. How to deal with difficult suppliers. NCR writing re-cap. Orbital Tube Welding.

There were technical discussions on:

Weld Repairs in accordance with Cessna specification CSMP 039. Eyesight requirements per ISO 24394. Welding operator qualification per the new requirements for qualification per machine

type. (Note this was based on an expected revision to the specification. It has not yet been issued).

Braze gap control.

There were 2 suggestions for checklist revision:

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Consideration to move bend testing questions to supplemental checklists due to the infrequent use of these questions.Motion made by Les Hellemann and seconded by Gary Coleman to leave checklist(s) as written. Motion passed.

Consideration for a new question in the pre-heat supplement of AC7110/5 to require a log to be kept. Discussion ensued and the Task Group consider that sign / stamp of the route card is considered sufficient.Motion made by Holger Krueger and seconded by Christopher Webb to not require a log to record pre-heat temperature. Motion passed.

Other discussion items: Are e-mail communications regarding approvals / deviations acceptable? In general

terms, stand-alone e-mails not generated through a Customer’s system are not allowed. If there is need to verify the method of approval a Supplier is using, this needs to be confirmed by the Subscriber Voting Member on the Task Group.

Export Control restrictions. The Task Group explained that there is not much that can be done on this item.

Is it possible to have an auto-save function on eAuditNet web-pages? This appeared to be isolated, however it will be discussed with the eAuditNet support team.

How do auditors with restrictions have these restrictions removed? This process was explained.

14.0 AUDITOR ADVISORIES – OPEN

14.1 Two Welding Auditor Advisories has been issued since the February 2018 Nadcap Meeting:

WLD-18-001 – ISO 24394 Tack Welder Qualification requirements WLD-18-002 – Revised Daily Debrief log

The Task Group was notified that there has been a slight change in where these are located. Open advisories are posted in eAuditNet (Resources / Documents / Public Documents / Task Groups / Welding / Auditor Advisories).

The Auditor Advisories have also been cleaned-up: Many advisories have been cancelled and these have been placed in a Cancelled Advisories sub-folder which has been further sub-divided into years.

Ian Simpson however noted there are a few old advisories that cannot be cancelled as they still apply (for example the issue has not been incorporated in an Audit Handbook, or into a Checklist revision).

Advisory 10-003-WLD relates to special application qualifications for welders and questions to test this have not been included in AC7110/12. This was therefore added to the Task Group rolling action list for incorporation into the next revision of this checklist. Advisory WLD-14-002 can be cancelled once AWS D17.2 is revised and advisory WLD-16-004 can be cancelled once all checklists that refer to weld and welder qualification test have been revised.

The Task Group reviewed these advisories and noted that 10-003-WLD refers to specific paragraphs of an old specification revision. Ian Simpson was therefore actioned to cancel this advisory and issue a new advisory with updated specification paragraphs.

For advisory WLD-14-002, Gary Coleman noted that the correction to AWS D17.2 will be captured in the new revision of this specification and as such this advisory can be cancelled when the new revision of AWS D17.2 is issued.

ACTION ITEM: Ian Simpson to cancel Auditor Advisory 10-003-WLD and issue new advisory that references the paragraph numbers according to the latest revision of AWS D17.1. (Due Date: 31-Aug-2018)

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15.0 ADDITIVE MANUFACTURE – OPEN

15.1 Richard Freeman gave an update on the status of Additive Manufacturing (AM).

At this time 4 Suppliers have been accredited to AC7110/14. Airbus again confirmed it has mandated this process. No other Subscribers have yet mandated.

There has been an open action item since February 2016 for Subscribers to provide details of Suppliers that they would wish to be audited, mandates that are likely to be made and timescales for audits. To date, there has been very little information provided by Subscribers in terms of potential mandates and the number of Suppliers likely to require an audit.

During the disposition of ballot comments at the February 2018 Task Group meeting, it was noted that a change was required that had not been previously balloted. Hence, this change was made, in addition to changes based on comment disposition, and a new letter ballot to the Task Group was made. There were some comments, however these were editorial, and changes were either incorporated or noted for subsequent checklist revision. The checklist was then balloted to the NMC. A couple of editorial comments were noted and incorporated. Revision A of the checklist was therefore approved. Subsequently the checklist issuing process continued resulting in the checklist being issued on 7-Jun-2018 with an effectivity of 9-Sep-2018.

The plan for qualifying further auditors was reviewed with the Task Group. Two additional European auditors were trained in theory at TWI’s facility in April 2018 and practical training at GKN’s Filton facility has been agreed for August 2018. US auditor training will be performed in conjunction with the Auditor Conference (Theoretical training at the October Auditor Conference in Pittsburgh and practical training at an AM machine manufacturer).

Once training is completed, each candidate will take the AM exam, and as previously agreed, if they pass, they will be qualified to audit AC7110/14.

At the February 2018 Task Group meeting the WLD and The Materials Testing (MTL) Task Groups briefly met to discuss if WLD required assistance on any testing requirements that are required. The MTL Task Group formed a sub-team and met with the WLD sub-team to discuss how they may interact on this subject. Richard Freeman noted that the meeting had been positive, but at this time there is no specific need for collaboration of the two Task Groups.

The Task Group reviewed the Rolling list of action items since the last meeting. Several comments were made as well as noting that machine manufacturers need to be consulted on some items. On that basis the AM sub-team agreed to convene to review these items further.

ACTION ITEM: Additive Manufacturing sub-team to solicit feedback as required from AM machine manufacturers and disposition the comments on the rolling action list. (Due Date: 24-Oct-2018)

Historically, due to the non-existence of Industry Standards controlling the AM process, the Task Group have developed the checklist based on common Subscriber requirements. The Task Group is however aware that Industry Standards are starting to be issued. On this basis, the Task Group decided that it would be prudent to review these and establish if there is a gap between the checklist and these standards, and start the revision process to ensure Industry Standard requirements are incorporated when agreed by the Task Group. AMS 7003 has been issued and was briefly reviewed. Reviews of the existing checklist against Industry Standards will commence in the future (Likely after the October 2018 Task Group meeting).

16.0 FORUM FOR SUPPLIER ISSUES – OPEN

16.1 There were no questions from Suppliers.

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17.0 CREATE NMC FEEDBACK CHART – OPEN

17.1 The Task Group generated the feedback chart for presentation by Steve Tooley at the NMC meeting.

18.0 NMC MEETING REPORT – OPEN

18.1 Steve Tooley gave a summary of key items that were discussed in the Planning and Operations meeting and NMC meeting. Key items were:

Audit Effectiveness update. The majority of items from the original list have been actioned. There are still some items being worked or being evaluated: multiple audit contacts, audit language, Task Group Corrective Action Reports (TGCAR). Information on audit language needs to be communicated to the team (See item 3.1.9). The team also request ½ hour time on the October Auditor Conference agenda for members of the NMC to address the auditors.

ACTION ITEM: Ian Simpson to include 30 minutes time in the October Auditor Conference agenda for the NMC to address the auditors. (Due Date: 15-Jul-2018)

Where suppliers are not currently approved for aerospace work, Task Groups will need to define a system to ensure the Nadcap audit meets aerospace requirements. It will also become mandatory for suppliers to declare their Subscribers, and any Supplier not currently working to any Subscriber requirements will be noted as such in the Qualified Manufacturer’s List (QML). Procedures have been revised and eAuditNet enhancements entered.

A proposal to revise a major NCRs criterion from ‘Evaluate product impact’ to ‘Actual or Potential product impact’ is being implemented. The NMC however require some additional work to verify that this will not significantly impact the number of suppliers on merit. Task Groups were therefore requested to provide some examples of NCRs that may be considered minor even if the Subscribers’ specification requirements were violated. Once these have been reviewed by the NMC, Task Groups need to review 5% of the prior 12 months audits and ascertain if this would have changed the NCR categorization and further if the merit status would have changed.

ACTION ITEM: Ian Simpson and Steve Tooley to develop examples of NCRs that may be considered minor under the new proposed definition. (Due Date: 30-Aug-2018)

An action item already exists for reviewing prior audit NCRs.

An observation in the 2017 Oversight audit noted that there may be inconsistencies in how various Task Groups handle audit failures. The Weld Task Group discussed this and noted that they evaluate audit failures on a case-by-case basis and as such believe there are no changes to make. Steve Tooley did volunteer to review the data to verify this assumption and if necessary provide feedback to the NMC.

ACTION ITEM: Steve Tooley to review the WLD failed audits from 2017, and provide any feedback to NMC if considered necessary. (Due Date: 30-Sep-2018)

There was a question about suppliers not always having internet access for the auditors. PRI will investigate.

Observation audits. Can Subscriber accreditation audits be used for this purpose? OP 1118 (Audit Observers) is being revised and will allow this when no conflict of interest exists.

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The Heat Treat Task Group requested for the notifications that are sent when a Task Group member makes comment on an audit ballot to include the specific comment rather than having to log into eAuditNet to review.

Steve Tooley explained that a Type C advisory had been issued based on a Subscriber declaration, and a potential weakness in the Nadcap system that allows the Supplier to have a new audit after 90 days, but does not require an investigation into the situation that caused the advisory to be issued. The NMC were aware of the reported issue and are already taking steps to modify procedures to address this type of issue.

Steve Tooley asked if there was any feedback from the NMC on the Annual reports that Task Groups are obliged to submit to them on Auditor Consistency issues. This will be reviewed and feedback provided.

Steve Tooley asked if Audit Handbooks could be located with the checklist in eAuditNet. PRI will investigate and report back.

19.0 ANNUAL REVIEW OF OP 1114 APP WLD – OPEN

19.1 The Task Group perform an annual review of their appendix to OP 1114 (Task Group Operation). The higher-level procedure has recently been revised, hence this review needs to incorporate changes to meet this procedure, as well as the regular review to ensure the appendix is still current to the way the Task Group operates.

In preparation for the meeting, the Staff Engineer drafted a revision to the appendix and asked Task Group members who had helped in the development of OP 1116 Appendix WLD to review. Alex Bourgeois and Milan Hanyk both provided input and were thanked for this.

The new Document Control procedure, OP 1110, now requires Task Group procedure appendices to have a Staff ballot prior to the ballot to the Task Group. The Staff Engineer balloted the draft procedure on the Staff ballot, and numerous comments were received. The majority of these were editorial and can be resolved easily. There were however some items that required discussion in the Task Group to establish if these were indeed the systems that the Task Group wished to work to:

The appendix has had a long-standing paragraph about eligibility for merit when a Supplier adds a new process to their existing accreditation. The Staff ballot noted that this is redundant as the Merit procedure, OP 1111, does not give addition of audit scope as a reason for denial of merit. The Task Group agreed and actioned the Staff Engineer to remove this paragraph.

The appendix has had a long-standing flowchart (Figure 2) to demonstrate how merit works for main / satellite combinations and the addition of new processes. The Staff ballot noted that this should be corrected to clearly delineate the effects for 18 and 24 months merit, which would make the chart extremely complicated. The recommendation from the ballot is to simply remove as it does not add anything, especially based on the revised verbiage in this section. The Task Group agreed and actioned the Staff Engineer to remove this figure and references to it.

The Task Group have previously delegated the Chair or Vice Chair to state merit changes and when on-site audits are required based on Supplier changes declared in notification change requests. The Staff ballot noted that this could be construed as a conflict with OP 1107 (Post Accreditation Actions) which requires a Task Group decision for these items. The Task Group reviewed this procedure and determined this not to be a conflict; however they noted that OP 1107 is not particularly well written, and also that OP 1114 App WLD could be modified to allow the Task Group to comment on the agreed changes by the Chair / vice-Chair thereby essentially gaining Task Group approval.

The Task Group reviewed the other proposed revisions and agreed with the changes being made.

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The Staff Engineer was actioned to disposition PRI Staff ballot comments as directed and move to a Task Group ballot.

ACTION ITEM: Ian Simpson to prepare OP 1114 Appendix WLD for Task Group ballot and ballot. (Due Date: 31-Jul-2018)

ACTION ITEM: Ian Simpson to provide feedback to OP 1107 document owner to consider revision to paragraph 4.4.4.2 to allow Task Groups alternative methods of approval for notification changes. (Due Date: 31-Jul-2018)

20.0 ANNUAL REVIEW OF OP 1116 APP WLD – OPEN

A sub-team of Alexander Bourgeois, Milan Hanyk and Craig Clasper performed a review of proposed changes to OP 1116 App WLD (Auditor Staffing Appendix WLD) to align with the revised higher-level procedure OP 1116 (Auditor Staffing).

This procedure was subsequently balloted to PRI Staff. There were some minor editorial comments that were incorporated, and then the procedure was balloted to the Task Group. No comments were received on the Task Group ballot; hence the procedure was submitted to NMC affirmation ballot. The NMC ballot has closed without comment, hence this procedure will be issued imminently.

ACTION ITEM: Ian Simpson to finalize ballot for OP 1116 App WLD and issue this procedure. (Due Date: 15-Jul-2018)

21.0 CHECKLIST ITEMS – OPEN

21.1 Status of AC7110/5

After the February 2018 Task Group meeting, the draft AC7110/5 (Fusion weld checklist) was balloted to the WLD Task Group. The main revision is the inclusion of a new Supplement (M) to specifically assess orbital welding.

There were several comments made in the ballot which were brought to this meeting for disposition. It should be noted that none of the comments were associated with the new supplement. Some comments were made that were not associated with the changes in this revision, however the Task Group determined that these were ones that warranted discussion and decision rather than simply dismissing as non-persuasive.

Each comment was dispositioned. There were some technical changes however these were minimal and less than the 6 stated in OP 1101 that would require another approval ballot. The Staff Engineer was therefore actioned to incorporate changes as noted in the ballot dispositions and then send the checklist on a 14-day Task Group Confirmation ballot.

ACTION ITEM: Ian Simpson to incorporate changes to AC7110/5 draft checklist based on the disposition of Task Group ballot comments and submit on a Task Group Confirmation ballot. (Due Date: 31-Jul-2018)

In order to have a supporting handbook available, the sub-team of Les Hellemann, Andy Toth, Saeed Cheema, Christopher Webb, Jim Ahlemeyer, Marco Poletto, Eric Przybylowicz, Rod Deming, Jackie Sternot, Ralph Kropp, Natalie Cullen, and Gary Coleman have been developing the handbook in-line with the revised checklist. Les Hellemann presented the work of the sub-team to date. This was reviewed by the Task Group and some revisions made. There is also additional work required as not all checklist changes have been reviewed for associated handbook content. It is recognized that a few minor revisions will also be required based on the ballot comment dispositions. The sub-team were actioned to have the handbook completed in-time for when the checklist will be issued. The Task Group agreed that changes made by the sub-team would be sufficient with no further review by the Task Group.

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Les Hellemann stated that he could provide some images for inclusion in the handbook to demonstrate the full intent of acceptable root side inspection.

The clarifications also noted that the new Supplement for orbital welding is limited to automatic welding. If any Subscriber wishes to require any of these questions for mechanized or manual welding then they will need to have this flowed via the supplemental checklist, AC7110/5S.

ACTION ITEM: Sub-team of Les Hellemann, Andy Toth, Saeed Cheema, Christopher Webb, Jim Ahlemeyer, Marco Poletto , Eric Przybylowicz, Rod Deming, Jackie Sternot, Ralph kropp, Natalie Cullen, and Gary Coleman to develop the handbook to align with revisions to the AC7110/5 checklist. (Due Date: 31-Jul-2018)

ACTION ITEM: Les Hellemann to provide images for inclusion in the AC7110/5 handbook to provide clarification of root side inspection. (Due Date: 31-Jul-2018)

ACTION ITEM: Les Hellemann to provide revisions for AC7110/5S (U10) to define the use of AC7110/5 Supplement M on GE hardware when manual and mechanized welding is performed. (Due Date: 31-Jul-2018)

ACTION ITEM: All Subscribers to provide any revisions they require to AC7110/5S, including any specific revisions to the applicability of Supplement M of AC7110/5 when manual and mechanized welding is used. (Due Date: 31-Jul-2018)

21.2 Handbook Revisions

Numerous handbooks were revised based on actions from the February 2018 Task Group meeting. Changes for the majority of these were defined in actions in the February 2018 minutes. There were however a few additional changes made as a result of the Auditor Advisory review (See item 14). Ian Simpson provided a summary of the changes made and reviewed specific changes as requested by the Task Group.

The Staff Engineer noted the following items for discussion relating to possible handbook revisions:

From the last Task Group meeting, Ian Simpson was actioned to discuss possible verbiage in the Stress Relieve Supplement to cover procedural requirements for System Accuracy Tests. Ian Simpson had met with the lead for the Heat Treatment commodity and verbiage was presented to the Task Group. This was agreed and needs to be added to all handbooks where this supplement is used. It was however noted that the ideal solution is to actually add a new question in the checklists to cover this specific item. This was already included in the AC7110/5 ballot, and has been added to the rolling action list so that it is incorporated as each checklist is revised (See item 21.3).

ACTION ITEM: Ian Simpson to add verbiage to all handbooks that include the Stress Relieve supplement to define the procedural content for System Accuracy Tests. (Due Date: 31-Aug-2018)

21.3 Checklists Revisions

Other than AC7110/14, as noted in item 15, no other checklists have been issued since the last Task Group meeting.

The following items have been submitted and included in the rolling list of items for requests on checklist revision.

Suggestion for N/A responses to AC7110/5 questions 11.2 and 11.3. The rationale is that if a welder qualification coupon is used on an initial weld audit then the Supplier will not actually have a qualified welder or necessarily be approved by the Customer. This has not caused any issues to date, hence the Task Group decided no changes are required.

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Stress Relieve Supplement. Add new question specifically for System Accuracy Test procedure content. This was agreed and will be added as checklists are revised.

AC7110/12. Add question to check special application qualifications. This was agreed and will be added when this checklist is revised.

Suggestion for N/A responses to AC7110/4 questions 8.2. This is for when resistance tack welding is not performed. This was agreed and will be added when this checklist is revised.

Revision to resistance weld evaluation log to add spot weld spacing. Note that this actually applies to the handbook. The Task Group noted that this would be beneficial, and asked Marco Poletto to provide a proposal for review.

Development of a fusion weld evaluation log (similar to that used for resistance welding). The Task Group noted that this would be beneficial, and asked Marco Poletto to provide a proposal for review.

Suggestion for revision to AC7110/4 para 6.7.1 to modify (or split into sub-questions) to better assess the various methods of qualification that can be used (e.g. standard certification and design allowable certification). Asked AC7110/4 sub-team to include in their review (ref. action item at item 12).

Suggestion for additional question in the AC7110/4 job audits that verifies the equipment being used is qualified for the material / thickness being welded. Asked AC7110/4 sub-team to include in their review (ref. action item at item 12).

Suggestion to review AC7110/4 in its entirety for additional questions that test more of the requirements defined in AWS D17.2. Asked AC7110/4 sub-team to include in their review (ref. action item at item 12).

Suggestion for all process checklists to have a generic question about relocation of equipment since last audit. It was noted that questions do already exist in some checklists to check this item, and that the Supplier’s Quality System should be controlling items such as this. On this basis there was no agreement for this revision.

Suggestion to require additional questions to check post weld heat treatment in process such as flash welding to ensure the stress relieve of hardenable steels occurs after welding. The Task Group noted that there are questions to check processing in accordance with the material specification, and that they are not able to impose requirements beyond this; hence no agreement for this proposal.

Suggestion to require a log to record pre-heat temperatures. The Task Group do not require an actual record, noting that stamping of route card provides sufficient evidence.

ACTION ITEM: Marco Poletto to provide a proposal for revision of the resistance weld evaluation to include spot spacing. (Due Date: 23-Oct-2018)

ACTION ITEM: Marco Poletto to provide a proposal for fusion weld evaluation based on information in the AC7110/13 handbook. (Due Date: 23-Oct-2018)

21.4 Revision to base checklist AC7110

There is an outstanding action to revise the core requirements checklist, AC7110, to include items in the revised checklist template. This is primarily to include checks with respect to the Supplier’s Quality System. Based on the knowledge that the NMC are working on other items that may require inclusion in this checklist (i.e. include verification that the Supplier has identified their Subscriber customers and a check if the Supplier is welding aerospace hardware), and that NMC are investigating the use of a common checklist for these types of items, the Task Group therefore decided not to pursue revision at this time.

21.5 Requests made at Auditor Conference for checklist / handbook revisions

All items were discussed in either item 13 or 21.3.

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22.0 NEW BUSINESS ITEMS – OPEN

22.1 No new business items were identified.

23.0 OCTOBER 2018 AGENDA – OPEN

23.1 Several items from this meeting will require additional time during the October 2018 meeting. Standard items for the October meeting include analysis of Auditor Conference effectiveness. Provision for review of AWS D17.2 revision, and proposals for weld evaluation (resistance and fusion).

ACTION ITEM: Ian Simpson to develop an agenda for the October 2018 meeting based on the items of the June 2018 agenda, include any items that the Task Group includes on an annual basis, inclusion of time to review revisions in AWS D17.2, proposals for weld evaluation. (Due Date: 13-Jul-2018)

24.0 REVIEW OF ACTION ITEMS – OPEN

24.1 All action items were reviewed for proper assignment and due date.

25.0 REVIEW OF MEETING EFFECTIVENESS – OPEN

25.1 The meeting was considered to be effective in meeting its goals.

There was discussion regarding room size and layout. Ian Simpson noted that a larger meeting room had been requested but where hotel contracts had already been agreed WLD might not be able to have a larger room. Room set-up might be able to alleviate some of the issues, however the Task Group affirmed that they wish to retain the ‘U-Shape’ set-up. PRI will arrange set-up to best accommodate room size and Task Group’s desired set-up shape.

26.0 NEXT MEETING – OPEN

26.1 As the NMC meeting will be on Thursday, and Auditor Conference on Monday, the Task Group requests to meet Tuesday to Thursday. Hence the meeting will be 23-25-October-2018 in Pittsburgh, PA.

ADJOURNMENT – Thursday 21-Jun-2018 – Meeting was adjourned at 5:10 p.m.

Minutes Prepared by: Les Hellemann, [email protected]

***** For PRI Staff use only: ******

Are procedural/form changes required based on changes/actions approved during this meeting? (select one)

YES* ☒ NO ☐

*If yes, the following information is required:Documents requiring revision: Who is responsible: Due date:OP 1114 App WLD Ian Simpson 31-Jul-2018


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