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Just How Big Do You Think Bishop Oyedepo's Ministry Is? by sleekymag (m ): 4:20pm On Apr12 , 2011

Before the recent acquisition of the fourth jet and the commencement of 4th service early thisyear, did you know that Bishop Oyedepo of the Winners Chapel is a man whose vision many can'tseem to fathom, nevertheless he is one with a mission which i don't think is for personalpleasures. Kindly read the excerpt of some his achievements below:

Winners' Chapel (also known as Living Faith Church ) is a megachurch founded by Bishop DavidOyedepo in 1981.On May 1 and 2 !981, in a long drawn out 18 hour vision in a certain 'International Hotel' in Ilesa,Old Oyo State, Brother David Oyedepo, a native of Omu-Aran in Kwara State,Nigeria received amandate that "The hour has come to liberate the world from all oppression and wickedness of satan through the preaching of the word of faith ; and I am sending you to undertake this task".Immediately after this, he sent the message to all his friends and the 'Powerhouse', a group of about 70 members, praying and fellowshipping under the aegis of 'Faith Liberation Hour', a weeklyprogramme was established. The church had its first and commissioning service in Ilorin, Kwara

State, Northern Nigeria on September 17, 1983 and Pastor Enoch Adejare Adeboye of theRedeemed Christian Church of God commissioned the ministry. At inception, there came aninstruction to move to 'Damascus' which was understood to be Kaduna. The Kaduna branchconsisted of four members and is now known as the "Garden of Faith". During a Powerhouse

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meeting in April 1982, Brother David Oyedepo listed seven areas where God had spokento him concerning the future of the ministry. He stated that "at the base of thecommission will be a tent which will sit 50,000 people". He stated that very soon there willbe millions gathering at the base to listen to the gospel. He added that he saw them flying with thegospel on wings which showed that soon the ministry will have her own aircraft. He added that thewhole world will soon be able to hear the message of the commission from the base. At that time,

the internet as we know it today was not in view. At the inception of the ministry, David Oyedepogot instruction to commit the spoken word into writing with the same measure of proof. This led tothe establishment of the Dominion Publishing House which won the Economic Community of WestAfrican States (ECOWAS) Gold Award in 1996 and has produced over 7 million books till date.

In 1987 while in the United States he got an instruction from God to "Get back home and makemy people rich". This served as a major thrust for the prosperity message of the commission. Hewas ordained as a "Bishop" by the late Archbishop Benson Idahosa of the Church of God Mission in1988. During the church's Easter Faith convention in April 1987, Pastor David Oyedepo announcedthat the church was to begin to spread out and on 27 May,1987, exactly a month later, the first

five branches of the church were established in 5 Nigerian towns namely Mubi, Azare, Biu,Maiduguri and Bauchi. In 1989, Bishop Oyedepo received a vision from God to "Get down to Lagosand raise me a people". This set the stage for the Lagos branch to start up in September 1989 withthe name "Winners Chapel". The first service in Lagos had about 300 people in attendance. ByDecember 1993, the Lagos church had 3,000 worshippers and by December 1994 it had increasedto 10,000 members. In 1996, Archbishop Benson Idahosa was invited to dedicate the church'sIyana Ipaja facility located at Raji Oba street. This consisted of a 3,000 seater auditorium withoverflow facilities for 30,000 as well as an eight ( floor tower which was the World MissionAgency headquarters. This $50 million (N7.5 Billion) facility was already largely inadequate in lessthan 2 years of its existence. The church membership increased to 75,000 in single services by the

middle of 1999. The name "Winners Chapel" soon became the popular name of the church evenmore so than the original name "The Living Faith World Outreach Centre" (LFWOC). Kadunaworshippers however still love to go by the name " Garden of Faith". The Garden of Faith is thenational headquarters of the church. In 1993, the Vice-President of the Living Faith Church andthen senior Pastor of the Maiduguri church, Pastor David Abioye was ordained "Bishop". BishopAbioye is an exemplary leader and an epitome of faithfulness in the Living Faith church andchristendom as a whole. Driving back to Kaduna from Zaria after a meeting on May 4 1994, BishopOyedepo heard a call from God that "The harvest of Africa was over-ripe and that he should rushin and preserve it from decadence". On May 8, 1994,the mandate was dedicated with a giant mapof Africa and on January 15, 1995, the first missionaries left the shores of Nigeria. As at

September 2010, Winners Chapel has branches in at least 63 cities in 48 Africancountries. The mandate to Africa is known as the African Gospel Invasion Program (AGIP). Theforeign mandate is an arm of the World Mission Agency (WMA) of the ministry. In 2000, theprompting came to reach out beyond Africa and this mandate is now known as the "Mission to theWorld" (MTW). As at September 2010,there are at least 10 branches of Winners Chapel in the USAin cities like Houston, Georgia, New York, New Jersey, Maryland, Chicago, Dallas, Philadelphia,Minnesota and Massachusetts. There are also branches in the UK, UAE, Belgium, The Caribbean,Canada, China, Malaysia, South Korea and Japan among others all over the world; in Nigeriaalone, there are about 3,000 local branches and about 24,000 satellite fellowships in the Lagosarea. The Commission has 12 Pillars known as The Pillars of Faith. The Pillars are The Word, Faith,

The Supernatural, The Holy Spirit, Prosperity, Prayer, Healing, Wisdom, Success, Vision,Consecration and Praise. The church teaches the importance of faith and that both divine healingand material prosperity are benefits of submission to God's will. It belongs to the Renewal.[1]


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The international headquarters of Winners Chapel is called Faith-Tabernacle. It covers about 70acres (280,000 m2) and is built inside an over 10,500-acre (42 km2) church complexcalled Canaanland, the international headquarters of the ministry in Ota, a suburb of Lagos. The building took 12 months to be completed. The foundation laying took place on August29, 1998 and the announcement of the time frame of one year for the building project wasannounced on September 13, 1998 by Bishop Oyedepo at the Iyana Ipaja church while work

began on September 18, 1998. The dedication of the building took place on September 19, 1999with 97,800 people in attendance. Faith Tabernacle is presently the largest church buildingin the world, with a sitting capacity of 50,400 people and an outside overflow capacity of over 250,000, with three services every Sunday. Construction completed in Canaanlandtill date is estimated to be not less than $600 million(N90 Billion) with an additionalCanaan City estate currently in construction which will be the largest housing estate inAfrica and easily one of the largest in the world with 15,000 housing units and at a costof N250 Billion or $1.6 Billion. This is part of a Grander scheme of 150,000 houses to bebuilt by the church. Faith Tabernacle is the fulfilment of the vision delivered in April1982. Over 300,000 people have been counted at single meetings at Canaanland.

Cannanland was procured in 1998 and was initially 560 acres (2.3 km2). Presently it isover 10,500 acres (42 km2) and will take about 120 km to navigate around it. As an educationist,Bishop David Oyedepo's mission currently pioneers the establishment of educational institutions atall levels in and outside Nigeria, including the recently established "HEBRON" or CovenantUniversity with over 7,000 students as well as Faith Academy with 1,500 students both located inCanaanland. Covenant university was well documented in a Nigerian Television Authority (NTA)documentary on the Nigerian 50th independence anniversary because of landmark achievementsin its few years of existence. Covenant University was adjudged the best private university inNigeria in 2005 and one of the goals of the institution is to be among the best in the world by orbefore 2020. According to Bishop Oyedepo, "Covenant University is not just an institution, it is a

revolution in education". Faith Academy on the other hand placed fourth of all secondary schoolsin Nigeria during the 2010 Senior secondary Certificate Examination (SSCE). The seconduniversity of the church known as Landmark University in Omu Aran, Kwara State wasapproved by the Nigerian Government in March 2011 and immediately resumed academicactivities the same month with about 1000 students. Construction at Landmarkuniversity is estimated to be in the realm of at least $50 million (N7 billion) so far whileBishop Oyedepo insists that 'spending continues'. Landmark University (LU) has themandate of spearheading an aggrarian revolution in Nigeria. Bishop David Oyedepo statedin August 2010 that it takes a ride of more than 100 km to go around the walls of LandmarkUniversity. Landmark University consists presently of 1,400 acres. There are strong plans for

about 5 more universities to be constructed across Africa including Abuja and Calabar inNigeria, Ghana, Democratic republic of Congo and Kenya as announced by BishopOyedepo during Shiloh 2007. 1,000 acres have already been acquired for the universityin Ghana while 300 hectares (about 750 acres)have been acquired for the Congouniversity and this is going to be a French speaking university. Recently, President YahyaJammeh of The Gambia appealed to the World Mission Agency (WMA) of the Living FaithChurch to build a university in The Gambia. Some other projects that were announcedduring the initial foundation laying in Canaanland in 1999 include a toweringadministrative headquarters and 500 bed hospital among many other projects.Winners' Chapel also runs a chain of about 12 Secondary schools and over 50 Primary and nursery

schools in Nigeria. The secondary schools are known as Faith Academies except those located inwithin the universities known as Covenant University and Landmark University Secondary Schoolsrespectively. The Nursery and Primary Schools are known as Kingdom heritage Model Schools


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(KHMS). Some of the secondary schools are located in Badagry, Iyana Ipaja, Ibadan, Asaba,Kaduna, Ilorin and Osogbo. The mission is presently working on plans to build at least a secondaryschool each in every country in Africa. It also has its own Bible School, called Word of Faith BibleInstitute (WOFBI); this is the biggest such group in Nigeria with branches in over 30 countriesworldwide including the United States of America, the United Kingdom and the United ArabEmirates. As at 2004, WOFBI had trained over 100,000 people all over Africa. WOFBI has 15

campuses in the Lagos Area alone. [b]Other assets of the Church are three aircraft including aChallenger 604 with call sign "N664D" which is listed in the Forbes 500. The Church aircraft fleetis known as the Dominion Airlines which is used strictly for missionary work and the church hasalso procured an aircraft Hangar at the Murtala Muhammed International Airport, Lagos.Construction is presently going on at the Hangar costing about $2.5 million (N350 million). Thechurch has a fleet of over 400 buses that convey worshippers to and from Faith-Tabernacle,Canaanland. In August 2010, the church procured another fleet of 100 brand new buses. Thesecond aircraft is parked at the Nnamdi Azikiwe Airport, Abuja for use by the vice president,Bishop David Abioye. [/b]The Church also owns Dominion Publishing House, which turns out booksand other materials written by David and Faith Oyedepo and David Abioye. Bishop Oyedepo has

written over 70 books apart from many also written by Bishop Abioye and Pastor (Mrs) FaithOyedepo. An arm of the Ministry, World Mission Agency (WMA) provides welfare and other healthand humanitarian services to the needy in the society. [b]An annual amount of N100,000,000(One hundred million naira)or $700,000 (Seven hundred thousand dollars) is administered inscholarships for education up to first degree level to church members through the David OyedepoScholarship Scheme and channelled through the Satellite Fellowships where membership isvalidated. Automatic scholarship is also available to all children members of primary school age.After the bomb blast that rocked the Ikeja Cantonment at the turn of the last decade, the RedCross announced that the consignment from the Winners Chapel was the largest by a singleorganization since the Nigerian Civil War. Also, the WMA has moved aggressively into Koma hills

in Northern Nigeria where it sunk 47 boreholes in 1997 and built nursery, primary and secondaryschools. The Church also provided relief to Liberian citizens during the Liberian Civil War. TheWinners Chapel is currently undertaking the construction of "Goshen" which is a camp likeCanaanland in Abuja and is along kilometre 26, Abuja-Keffi Road. It has an ultra-modernauditorium which accommodates over 15,000 and a secondary school, Faith Academy, a YouthCentre as well as Kingdom Heritage Model School (nursery and primary) which were all dedicatedon Oct 2nd 2010. The auditorium is a replica of the Faith Tabernacle. Goshen is complete with adual-carriage way running through the 740 acre facility with street lightning as well as a housingestate with over 45 housing units among others and all these were constructed in only 15 months.[/b]There are plans for a university to be built in Goshen. Goshen is now the Mission Headquarters

of the Living faith Church. All over Nigeria and Africa, Winners Chapel have a lot of architecturalmasterpieces which emphasize utility. The use of pillars in her auditoriums are de-emphasized asthis enables every worshipper to have visual access to the altar. Some of these masterpieces areFaith Tabernacle, Canaanland, Goshen, along km 26 Abuja-Keffi expressway, the old site of Winners Chapel in Durumi, Abuja, built in 6 months; Garden of Faith, Kaduna, Winners Chapel,Kano, Winners Chapel, Benue and Winners Chapel,Nairobi (Wonderland), Kenya to mention a few.Winners Chapel, Nairobi is the largest church auditorium in East and Central Africa and theauditorium sits 15,000.Every December, Winners' Chapel holds its annual Prophetic gathering, called Shiloh. The annualShiloh event and normal church services at the Faith Tabernacle can be viewed online real time.

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Re: Just How Big Do You Think Bishop Oyedepo's Ministry Is? by sleekymag (m ): 4:49pmOn Apr 12 , 2011

Its easier to criticize a man of God, or even just about anybody without knowing what the person'strue motives are. Many do not know the man gives scholarships worth N100m every year; they donot know the church provides for its poor members or those in need through its satellitefellowships; they do not know how BIG the ministry is, such that using a public airline wouldn't beeffective. Truth is, very few are called to have missions as much as his. How many would havederailed just at the slight success they would encounter on their way? So many. It takes a tireless,committed visioneer to keep at it despite the success. How many successful men of his level wouldstill be working 16hours daily? Few, i think.

Even John D. Rockefeller (not a pastor, but an entrepreneur), the richest man of his time, was atither, from an early age. Four generations after, his family is being recognised as America's mostsuccessful family. And one of his favorite quotes is "If your only goal is to become rich, you willnever achieve it." He ended up giving out most of his wealth, and this goes on even til l todaythrough the Rockefeller Foundation and many others.

It's more than just the desire for success or wealth; it is a vision, a mission, to make the world abetter place.

Washington Irving said, "Great minds have purpose, others have wishes".The purpose of life is a life of purpose!

Re: Just How Big Do You Think Bishop Oyedepo's Ministry Is? by JeSoul ( f ): 5:04pm On Apr12 , 2011

Just out of curiosity . . .

Sleekymag, can you give examples of what geographic locations in the world Oyedepo (andothers who'll use the planes) travel to for missionary work?

Thanks.

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JeSoul:

Just out of curiosity . . .

Sleekymag, can you give examples of what geographic locations in the world Oyedepo (andothers who'll use the planes) travel to for missionary work?

Thanks.

For starters, the man didn't just feel like owning aircrafts, he saw it in a vision many years earlier.The needs of having an aircraft became more apparent as his ministry grew. Asides him, othermembers of the leadership also use the aircrafts for ministry purposes. However, i don not know


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why they had to buy a fourth one, but i know there must have been a reason.

As at September 2010, Winners Chapel has branches in at least 63 cities in 48 Africancountries. The mandate to Africa is known as the African Gospel Invasion Program (AGIP). Theforeign mandate is an arm of the World Mission Agency (WMA) of the ministry. In 2000, theprompting came to reach out beyond Africa and this mandate is now known as the "Mission to

the World" (MTW). As at September 2010,there are at least 10 branches of Winners Chapel inthe USA in cities like Houston, Georgia, New York, New Jersey, Maryland, Chicago, Dallas,Philadelphia, Minnesota and Massachusetts. There are also branches in the UK, UAE, Belgium,The Caribbean, Canada, China, Malaysia, South Korea and Japan among others all over theworld; in Nigeria alone, there are about 3,000 local branches and about 24,000 satellitefellowships in the Lagos area.

Every week or every other week, this man travels. In 2009 i think, he virtually went to almost allthe countries in Africa where his ministry was.

Re: Just How Big Do You Think Bishop Oyedepo's Ministry Is? by Delafruita (m ): 5:22pm OnApr 12 , 2011

Quite an impressive resume for a church.i like the part where it says #100,000,000 is set asideannually as scholarship for church members.i have an idea that might interest you,let's assumeme and you are the head of your church,we have established schools for which we chargeexorbitant amounts for,then we say lets give out scholarship to our church members to the sameschools which we have built,does that cost us anything?of course not.it makes us look good butcosts us nothing.then we calculate how much those whom we gave scholarship would have paid if they had been outsiders and bam-we get a big figure which people can clap about.the only thing it

would cost us is the money we would have gained and even this violates the ultra viresprinciple.we dont need to fork out the money,we only need to make use of our already existingfacilities to accomodate a few more kids which by the way is a bucket in the ocean of others whoneed ou help but we can't help them because we have to build architectural masterpieces,buy jetsand build more schools that will give us more money to buy even more jets.

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@Delafruita

There are many private universities in Nigeria whose fees dwarf what Covenant Universitycharges. Take for example this new university called Baze University, Abuja with only 3 colleges,charging N1.5m per session, excluding accommodation and Covenant which charges aboutN300,000 per session. Don't forget that CU is one of the best private universities if not the bestfrom this part of Africa, and with the 24 hours electricity, internet access, quality of staff and theirtop-notch salary scales, it is good value for money. Besides, many middle class parents and eventhose who struggle to give their children good education, have their children there.

Besides the scholarship are not just for those members who attend CU but every other universityin Nigeria. I benefitted once or twice way back in 1999 or 2000 when i was in the university, andthat was before CU was even established.


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You are not even sure how many times you benefitted and i'm supposed to believe you actuallydid?besides the point is not in how many people get the scholarship,the point is the church nowemploys charity as CSR whereas that should be its major focus.for exampl a certain church has aprogramme it tags widow's nite once in a friggin year whereas iy spends a whole lot of money onother less imortant things.so the widows need food only once a year right?the point you fail tonotice is that the acquisition of a fourth jet is absolutely unnecessary and that money could havebeen used to directly impact the members of the church who are in need.

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Delafruita:

You are not even sure how many times you benefitted and i'm supposed to believe you actuallydid?besides the point is not in how many people get the scholarship,the point is the church nowemploys charity as CSR whereas that should be its major focus.for exampl a certain church hasa programme it tags widow's nite once in a friggin year whereas iy spends a whole lot of moneyon other less imortant things.so the widows need food only once a year right?the point you failto notice is that the acquisition of a fourth jet is absolutely unnecessary and that money couldhave been used to directly impact the members of the church who are in need.

I said i think, cos i know i benefitted once (N15, 000, the amount has been upped time and again

since then), and then i tried to, the following year, i applied but didn't go for it (sometimes youforget somethings, its over 10 years now, haba). I actually declined to go for the second one (iremember well now) cos i didn't need it cos my finances were ok by then.

Anyways, who makes you a judge, why do you have to decide whether what they do is CSR ortheir main mission work? Are you the visioneer? I think you should slow down, appreciate goodthings, and strive to do your own best to help humanity in your own little way.

BTW, though am still a member (i go occasionally), i've not been regular cos am now a fullmember of Daystar, that's why i said i don't know why they decided to buy a fourth one; who

knows, maybe they will sell one off, or give it out, or whatever. Am no judge, and i dont think youshould be, particularly when you may not have the insider info.


Daystar hmm.i kinda like rev sam.i alsoremember bishop oyedepo is his "father in the lord".if imay ask why did youwithdraw your full membership of winners chapel?as o your comment on the"visioner" deciding which direction the church goes,thats weird.i thought he was supposed to followthe directions of God and not lean on his own understanding

Re: Just How Big Do You Think Bishop Oyedepo's Ministry Is? by JeSoul ( f ): 7:11pm On Apr12 , 2011


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Sleekymag thanks for the response brother.

As a side question, what do you think about modern pastors living lavish lifestyles? asrepresentatives of God and examples to their flock, 1 do you think for these men to live inopulence is out of step & inconsistent with the examples Jesus and His disciples set? If not, canyou please say why? 2 furthermore, do you say there is a possibility for church funds/finances to

be misused?

thanks again.

Re: Just How Big Do You Think Bishop Oyedepo's Ministry Is? by PsalmmieF (m ): 7:22pmOn Apr 12 , 2011

@sleekmag well Done Jare!! u r doin a gud job!!!!

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Re: Just How Big Do You Think Bishop Oyedepo's Ministry Is? by Joagbaje (m ): 3:52am OnApr 13 , 2011

@sleekmagPeople Criticise what they don't know. Thank you for shedding light.

Re: Just How Big Do You Think Bishop Oyedepo's Ministry Is? by EarsWide (m ): 8:22am OnApr 13 , 2011

@Joagbaje

can you please show us the proof you raised someone from the dead like you claimed ?

Re: Just How Big Do You Think Bishop Oyedepo's Ministry Is? by wetu : 12:11pm On Apr 13 ,2011

Well done Oyedepo but let's just be careful about the BIG numbers:

Rev 3:14 And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen,the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;Rev 3:15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.Rev 3:16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of mymouth.Rev 3:17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind,and unclothed: Rev 3:18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest berich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy unclothedness donot appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.Rev 3:19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

Re: Just How Big Do You Think Bishop Oyedepo's Ministry Is? by ode remo (m ): 1:46pm OnApr 13 , 2011

Don't forget that CU is one of the best private universities if not the best from this part of Africa,and with the 24 hours electricity, internet access, quality


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dont come on line with that, last time i checked C.U was no. 24 out of the list of 78 bestuniversities in nigeria and not africa. even so that ranking does not estimate to your assertion sathe best in FROM THIS PART OF AFRICA.


ode remo:

dont come on line with that, last time i checked C.U was no. 24 out of the list of 78 bestuniversities in nigeria and not africa. even so that ranking does not estimate to your assertionsa the best in FROM THIS PART OF AFRICA.

don't be too hasty to jump to assertions without reading clearly what was posted. I said one of thebest private universities if not the best from this part of Africa. Note that i didnt say it is one of the best universities if not the best.

That aside, i'm no alumni of the school.


Joagbaje:

@sleekmagPeople Criticise what they don't know. Thank you for shedding light.

PsalmmieF:

@sleekmag well Done Jare!! u r doin a gud job!!!!

Thanks guys!

Re: Just How Big Do You Think Bishop Oyedepo's Ministry Is? by toluxa1 (m ): 4:54pm OnApr 13 , 2011

it's somewhat comical seeing him gloat about how blessed he is of God. Infact, 90% of his sermons are about himself and how we should use him as an example on how toprosper. Always recycling stories of how God has blessed him

No more Jesus, but the Bishop. Profiting from the people's ignorance, feed them

stories of hope, never empower them wih knowledge: their mission statement. Theypreach 'Give' but practice 'take',


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God help us,

the above are statements i agree on from another thread.

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Re: Just How Big Do You Think Bishop Oyedepo's Ministry Is? by Azibalua ( f ): 5:50pm OnApr 13 , 2011

@ poster,Thanks really inspiring@ wetuThese figures are small oh,I believe god can do much more than this


JeSoul:

Sleekymag thanks for the response brother.

As a side question, what do you think about modern pastors living lavish lifestyles? asrepresentatives of God and examples to their flock, 1 do you think for these men to live inopulence is out of step & inconsistent with the examples Jesus and His disciples set? If not, canyou please say why? 2 furthermore, do you say there is a possibility for church funds/finances tobe misused?

thanks again.

Jesoul, I'm no judge when it comes to this, but then the definition of 'lavish l ifestyle' as practicedby a modern pastor is subjective, and there are lots of variables to it. Perception is also somethingelse. Someone may not even live a l ifestyle that's lavish but then again he may be storing orcornering all church funds for something else, meanwhile the world would see him as a true manof God. So you see it depends on the particular situation.

Jesus said, judge not so that you won't be judged. If you had brought out a scripture these menviolated then i guess we could start from there, meanwhile conjecture isn't good enough. For thepossibility of misuse of church funds/finances, well i know its very possible for pastors to misusechurch funds, and it happens with some churches, small or big (irrespective of size).


Delafruita:

Daystar hmm.i kinda like rev sam.i alsoremember bishop oyedepo is his "father in the lord".if imay ask why did youwithdraw your full membership of winners chapel?as o your comment onthe "visioner" deciding which direction the church goes,thats weird.i thought he was supposed tofollow the directions of God and not lean on his own understanding


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And who says a visioneer wouldn't take directions from God? He takes directions based on hisrevelations per time, which may not be understood by someone afar off.

For Daystar, yea, i'm a full member now. After so many years with Living Faith, i needed somechange. Daystar is a breath of fresh air. i still go to winners occasionally, and i try not to miss

their vigil and other special progs. Rev. Sam is a role model, his humility is inspiring, his messagesare lifting, and he emphasizes EXCELLENCE. Its an urban youth church, and its cool. Oyedepo ishis mentor and he doesn't deny it in any way.

Re: Just How Big Do You Think Bishop Oyedepo's Ministry Is? by fresh_dude (m ): 2:41amOn Apr 14 , 2011

It's amazing how these 'TRUE' christians react when names like the Bishop's are mentioned.It isamazing that no amount of reasoning seems to make sense.Even after this interesting compilationthat should make the man look like a saint you read stuff like ''oh he's just giving his own moneyto himself'', ''oh he's giving but shame on him he's not giving enough''.This reminds me of the''brood of vipers'' of back in the day,your lens are coloured and you see all things through theselens.So now it's not 'wow Jesus healed our brother'' instead its ''Jesus how dare you heal a man onthe sabbath''.You even nitpick on 1999/2000,I mean its cute to satan,but its ugly in the kingdom.

Re: Just How Big Do You Think Bishop Oyedepo's Ministry Is? by nuella2 ( f ): 11:25am OnApr 14 , 2011

^^^How on earth are you telling someone he is not giving enough, is it your money?

Re: Just How Big Do You Think Bishop Oyedepo's Ministry Is? by wetu : 12:00pm On Apr 14 ,2011

2Co 8:20 Avoiding this, that no man should blame us in this abundance which isadministered by us:2Co 8:21 Providing for honest things, not only in the sight of the Lord, but also in the sightof men .

Re: Just How Big Do You Think Bishop Oyedepo's Ministry Is? by fresh_dude (m ): 10:41pmOn Apr 23 , 2011

@Nuella.E be like say you no know wetin dem dey use inverted comma do abi.If only you'dlistened more in class.Those are deductions from others' posts not my opinion.My advice-readagain and understand what I am saying.

Re: Just How Big Do You Think Bishop Oyedepo's Ministry Is? by noetic16 (m ): 2:42am OnApr 24 , 2011

@ OP

quite an impressive narrative. . , but Christ said that by their fruit we shall know them. Oyedepo isNOT of God. QED.

sleekymag:


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Its easier to criticize a man of God, or even just about anybody without knowing what theperson's true motives are. Many do not know the man gives scholarships worth N100m everyyear; they do not know the church provides for its poor members or those in need through itssatellite fellowships; they do not know how BIG the ministry is, such that using a public airlinewouldn't be effective. Truth is, very few are called to have missions as much as his. How many

would have derailed just at the slight success they would encounter on their way? So many. Ittakes a tireless, committed visioneer to keep at it despite the success. How many successful menof his level would still be working 16hours daily? Few, i think.

100m scholarship to go to his own schools? what EXACTLY did Christ command peter to do?

Even John D. Rockefeller (not a pastor, but an entrepreneur), the richest man of his time, was atither, from an early age. Four generations after, his family is being recognised as America'smost successful family. And one of his favorite quotes is "If your only goal is to become rich, youwill never achieve it." He ended up giving out most of his wealth, and this goes on even tilltoday through the Rockefeller Foundation and many others.

It's more than just the desire for success or wealth; it is a vision, a mission, to make the world abetter place.

Washington Irving said, "Great minds have purpose, others have wishes".The purpose of life is a life of purpose!

just hide ur ignorance . . . . .u know NOTHING about the Rockerfellas.

Re: Just How Big Do You Think Bishop Oyedepo's Ministry Is? by free123 : 2:15pm On Apr24 , 2011

it's quite amazing how some pastors have left the message of salvation for prosperity message.Later Gombs of cec will come and tell us how he graduated from elementary to tertiary gospel.These are men working for their bellies, commercialising the word of God and

Re: Just How Big Do You Think Bishop Oyedepo's Ministry Is? by blink182 (m ): 3:21pm OnApr 29 , 2011

Unto church things, how does pastor manage to run all these things and still manage to do thework of God. I need to meet this man one on one

Re: Just How Big Do You Think Bishop Oyedepo's Ministry Is? by newmi (m ): 9:15am OnMay 01 , 2011

@sleekymagGreat and inspiring record he is truely a great man

free123:

it's quite amazing how some pastors have left the message of salvation for prosperity message.Later Gombs of cec will come and tell us how he graduated from elementary to tertiary gospel.


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These are men working for their bellies, commercialising the word of God and

Ok oga what is the message of salvation that you feel has been neglected perhaps you missed theaccount of mission works in the thread to Africa and other parts of the world including China yesChina but you even the closest hostile village you haven't ventured

Re: Just How Big Do You Think Bishop Oyedepo's Ministry Is? by newmi (m ): 10:13am On

May 01 , 2011

blink182:

Unto church things, how does pastor manage to run all these things and still manage to do thework of God. I need to meet this man one on one

This the answerZechariah 4:66 Then he answered and spake unto me, saying, This[ is] the word of the Lord unto Zerubbabel,saying, Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit, saith the LORD of hosts.

Re: Just How Big Do You Think Bishop Oyedepo's Ministry Is? by EarsWide (m ): 1:49pm OnMay 01 , 2011

@Newmi

Oyede4planes is able to do all those things because he is NOT doing Gods work - he is enrichinghimself.

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Re: Just How Big Do You Think Bishop Oyedepo's Ministry Is? by Shalom Rob : 1:08pm OnJun 02 , 2011

@ ode reme, the last time some officials from the US went to NIgera to hold a meeting withUNiversities in nigeria,2 were selected because of worth and CU was amongst, it should be noted ithas one of the best engineering faculties in Africa, Landmark University kick off this year.thesecond university which is 10 times better and bigger the covenant university, it is an ultramodern university with the latest technologies in the world

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