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http:www.bobveres.com 0.12%
0.12%
0.12%
0.25%
1.84%
0.98%
1.11%
2.58%
1.47%
11.79%
2.83%
6.02%
4.79%
6.88%
19.41%
11.06%
8.60%
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AUM Fee Levels: Portfolios $2-$3 million
Median: 0.75%
0.42%
0.11%
0.84%
0.84%
7.26%
6.94%
7.78%
7.68%
6.83%
4.94%
8.83%
4.10% 5.57%
4.10%
3.68%
7.47%
4.73%
3.47%
4.10%
0.00%
5.47%
3.15%
0.11%
0.84%
0.42%
0.32%
0%
0.05%
0.10%
0.15%
0.20%
0.25%
0.30%
0.35%
0.40%
0.45%
0.50%
0.55%
0.60%
0.65%
0.70%
0.75%
0.80%
0.85%
0.90%
0.95%
1.00%
1.25%
1.35%
1.50%
1.75%
2.00%
Estimated Blended Expense Ratios of Portfolio Investments
Median: 0.50%
Total Annual Costs $1-$2 Million
Client Portfolios
1.41%
4.64%
5.06%
5.34%
8.30%
9.00%
8.58%
8.16% 10.27%
9.00%
6.47%
4.50%
2.81% 4.50%
1.97%
2.95%
0.70%
1.27%
0.98%
0.42%
0.98%
0.42%
0.14%
0.28%
0.28%
0.14%
0.00%
0.42%
0.28%
0.14%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.56%
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.91%
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1.11
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1.21
%-1.30%
1.31
%-1.40%
1.41
%-1.50%
1.51
%-1.60%
1.61
%-1.70%
1.71
%-1.80%
1.81
%-1.90%
1.91
%-2.00%
2.01
%-2.10%
2.11
%-2.20%
2.21
%-2.30%
2.31
%-2.40%
2.41
%-2.50%
2.51
%-2.60%
2.61
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2.71
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2.81
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2.91
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3.01
%-3.10%
3.11
%-3.20%
3.21
%-3.30%
3.31
%-3.40%
3.41
%-3.50%
3.51
%-3.60%
3.61
%-3.70%
3.71
%-3.80%
3.81
%-3.90%
3.91
%-4.00%
4.00
%+
Median: 1.50%Under1% 8.16%Bet.1-2% 73.70%Bet.2-3% 15.89%Bet.3-4% 1.97%above4% 0.56%1.0%-2.0% 73.70%
4.70%
2.03% 4.
57%
2.92% 4.95%
5.33%
5.96%
3.05%
6.09%
1.14%
20.81%
1.14%
7.87%
5.46%
5.71%
9.14%
4.19%
2.16%
2.41%
0.38%
0.00%
Advisors reporting % of AUM Fees
That Pay for Non-Asset Management Client Services
(Financial Planning etc.)
FeeStructureBreakdown
AUMOnly 33.37%AUM+Retainer 23.85%AUM+Hourly 8.05%AUM+Commission 8.68%AUM/Hourly/Retainer 8.68%RetainerOnly 5.23%HourlyOnly 3.24%Hourly&Retainer 2.93%CommissionOnly 0.63%Commission+Hourly 0.21%Commission/AUM/hrly 2.09%Commission/AUM/Ret. 1.57%AllFour 1.46%
AverageAUMFee: $6,689AveragePlanningFee: $6,175LowestAUMFee: $938LowestPlanningFee: $0HighestAUMFee: $15,750HighestPlanningFee: $13,500
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The DOL fiduciary rulehas raised a question that nobody
seems prepared to answer: what
are reasonable fees for managing
a client’s investment assets? Wehear about an industry standard
1% of assets under management,
but we also know that this fee level
doesn’tapplyequallytoportfoliosof all sizes. Are there any industry
statisticswhich comparedifferentfee levels for different size portfo-
lios, and help us arrive at a work-
ingdefinitionof“reasonable?” At the same time, it has
been widely reported that the fi-
nancial planning profession ismoving away from a pure AUM
revenue model. The destination is,
asyet,uncertain,butwecanplau-
sibly speculate that the evolutionwill move toward a blended AUM/
fixed fee (what used to be called“retainer”)model,wherethefixedfee pays for planning while the
AUM fee pays for the asset man-
agementactivities.Someadvisorsare shifting to a fixed feemodel,while others are adding hourly
fees. And,ofcourse,manyadvi-sory firms are still earning com-
missions on their product recom-
mendations.
This, too, raises a lot of
interesting questions. Among
them: where are we in this evo-
lutionaryprocess? Howmanyfi-
nancial planningfirms are, today,stillcompensatedpurelybyassetsunder management? How manyare using one of the various blend-
edmodels:AUMplus fixed fees;AUMplushourly,AUMpluscom-
missions.
And how many have
moved away from AUM altogeth-
er, and are charging either fixedfeesorsomecombinationoffixedfeesplushourlyorcommission,or
Introductionhourlyfeesalone? Is the trend away from
AUM visible in today’s financialplanning community, or is it, asyet,purelyspeculation? Beyond that, there are other
coststoconsider.Advisorschargefor their own services, but clientportfolios also incur the blendedexpenseratiosoftheunderlyingin-
vestments,plustradingcosts,plus,insomecases,additionalplatformfees tocompensateabroker-deal-er,TAMP,custodialNTFprogramorwrapfeeprogram.Whatdoweknow about standard all-in costsof clientportfolios,wheneachofthese cost components are addedtogether?Canwearriveatanin-
dustrystandardforall-incosts? Are there differences incost structures among differenttypesoffirms?Doportfoliosman-
agedbywealthmanagerstypicallycost more, or less, than similar-sized portfolios managed by dual-
ly-registered advisors, wirehouse
brokersorfee-onlyfinancialplan-
ners?Aretheredifferencesincostwhenthefirmsarebrokendownbysize, or by the number of years a
plannerhasbeeninthebusiness? WhenafinancialplanningfirmchargesoneAUMfee for itsfull range of services, what per-centage of that total fee pays forfinancial planning and other non-investment related services, vs.what percentage should properlybe allocated to managing clientportfolios? Finally, for advisory firmswho are looking at moving from an
AUMtoflatfeearrangement,whatwouldbeareasonablecostforpro-
vidingfinancialplanningservices,and asset management services?Is there a way to arrive at industry
standardpricing?
This white paper will en-
deavor to answer these and other
interesting questions about fee
structuresinthefinancialplanningmarketplace. Over the next 22pages, the reader will find chartswhich break down the data col-lected from nearly a thousand fi-
nancialplanningfirmsinthefallof2016, as part of a comprehensivetechnologysurvey. The result may represent
the most comprehensive pictureyetofferedofhowfinancialplan-
nersarechargingtheirclients,andhowmuch.Thisreportnotonlyof-fers some tentative answers to the
questions about industry-standard
feesandall-inportfoliocosts,butalsopaintsapictureofaprofessionin transition.
There will be analysis pro-
vided throughout the report, but
unlike many white papers in the in-
dustry, the goal here is for the read-
ertodrawhis/herownconclusionsand apply the research to yourowncircumstances.Theopinionsof the author are far less relevant
than the faithful reproduction ofthedatawecollected,representedhereby59chartsandtables. Iwant tooffermysincerethankstoJoDayofTrumpet,Inc.,and Jennifer Goldman of My Vir-
tualCOO,whograciouslyencour-agedtheiraudiencestoparticipatein the survey.
And I want to invite any
readers to help me think of ques-
tions that should have been asked,
orwaystoevaluatethedatawecol-lected in potentially useful ways.Every effort was made to createthe most relevant fee survey in the
profession’sshorthistory,butthereisclearlymuchmoreworktodo.
Bob Veres
Inside Information
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ChartTitle
1 2 3 4
Survey Responents Breakdown: Years in Business
20+ Years
48.52%
11-20 Years
32.02%
6-10 Years
12.46%
1-5 Years
6.99%
WhoAretheParticipants? The survey was sent out
to three primary audiences in thefinancial planning profession:the readers ofBobVeres’s InsideInformation newsletter service;members of Joel Bruckenstein’sT3 community, and the readersof the Advisor Perspectives/APViewpointinformationservice. Inallwecollected956use-able survey forms. In order to de-
terminehowcloseourrespondentswere to a representative sample
of the profession, we asked about
their experience, their businessstructure and the size of the firmwhere they worked, measured in
total annual revenues.
The results are shown in
thethreechartsonthispage.Gen-
erally, the respondents tended to be
abitmoreexperiencedthanaver-age; almost half reported havingspent more than 20 years in the
business, and another 31% have
worked 11-20 years.
Turning to business struc-ture, we attracted a very smallnumber of wire-house affiliatedbrokers, and a slightly larger,
still insignificant, number of as-setmanagers.Thepreponderanceof the respondents were fee-only
planners(52.62%ofthetotal);andcomprehensive wealth managers
ChartTitle
1 2 3 4 5
Survey Responents Breakdown: Business Structure
ComprehensiveWealthManager
25.24%
Dually-Registered
Advisor
17.43%
Wirehouse-AffiliatedBroker2.14%
Fee-Only Asset
Manager
2.57%
Fee-Only
FinancialPlanner 52.62%
(25.24%), along with lesser rep-
resentation among the communi-ties of dually-registered advisors
(17.43%),assetmanagers(2.57%)
and wirehouse-affiliated brokers(2.14%). Thesurveycapturedagoodcross-sample of firm size, with aslightbiastowardlargerfirmsthathavesuccessfullycreatedscale. Overall, the survey seems
tohavebeenskewedtofirmsthatoffer financial planning services,whichistobeexpectedifmanyofthe respondents were members of
theInsideInformationcommunity. Let’s take a look at how- and howmuch - these advisoryfirmschargeforassetmanagementandotheractivities,fromavarietyof angles.
2
ChartTitle
1 2 3 4 5 6
Survey Responents Breakdown: Firm Revenue
$250,000-$500,000
16.31%
$1 million - $4 million
28.81%
$4+ Million
11.55%
$500,000-$1 million
20.55%
$50,000-
$100,000
9.53%$100,000-250,000
13.24%
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Revenue Models
Percent Using AUM As Part of their Fee
Structure: 87.75%
Percent Using Retainers As Part of their
Fee Structure: 43.72%
Percent Using Hourly Fees As Part of
their Fee Structure: 26.66%
One key question we
sought to answer with this survey
was: Is there a visible trend away
from the AUM revenue model to-
wardothermodels? Thechartattheupperrightcontains a great deal more infor-mation than its size would suggest.
It reveals a trend toward more di-
verserevenuesources,butonestillin its early stages. Whereas fiveyearsago,theAUM-onlycategorywouldalmostcertainlyhavebeen
over 70%, today it represents al-
most exactly one-third of the re-spondents. More than 85% of the
respondentsstillchargesomeformof AUM, but just under two-thirds
are now supplementing AUM fees
withretainerorhourly(andsomecommission)revenues. Basedonthecommentswereceived in the open-ended fieldsthroughout the survey, it appears
that the AUM + Retainer and AUM
+ Hourly models generally mean
thatanadvisorischargingfortheup-front planning work and there-
after charging on anAUM basis,with perhaps some project workpaid for by retainers or fees as time
passes. However, others are bi-furcating their asset managementwork(paidbyAUM)andplanning(paidbyhourlyorretainerfees).
Intheabsenceofclearpro-
fession-wide data, it is hard to see
howadvsiorscandetermine“rea-sonable”feesforclientportfolios.Wehear that1%of a clientport-foliois“industrystandard,”butisthistrueforportfoliosofallsizes?IsittrueforANYsize? This survey sought to ad-
dress this question in the most
straightforward possible way: by
asking survey respondents to pro-
videustheirAUMfeelevelforcli-ent portfolios of different sizes.
The first set of charts, tothe right, reflect the responsesfor portfolios below $250,000. A
smallpercentofadvisorschosenot
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FeeStructureBreakdown
AUMOnly 33.37%AUM+Retainer 23.85%AUM+Hourly 8.05%AUM+Commission 8.68%AUM/Hourly/Retainer 8.68%RetainerOnly 5.23%HourlyOnly 3.24%Hourly&Retainer 2.93%CommissionOnly 0.63%Commission+Hourly 0.21%Commission/AUM/hrly 2.09%Commission/AUM/Ret. 1.57%AllFour 1.46%
Fee Levels
0.38%
0.13%
0.64%
0.13%
1.40%
1.02%
0.89%
0.89%
2.93%
1.78%
3.44%
4.20%
49.49%
21.76%
7.38%
2.16%
1.15%
0.25%
0.13%
0.26%
0.52%
0.13%
1.43%
0.78%
0.39%
0.13%
1.82%
1.43%
1.56%
2.99%
43.25%
24.42%
13.64%
2.08%
3.90%
1.17%
AUM Fee Levels: Portfolios $250,000-$500,000
AUM Fee Levels: Portfolios Below $250,000
Median: 1.00%
Median: 1.00%
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0.25%
0.13%
0.50%
0.38%
0.50%
2.64%
1.51%
1.88%
1.01%
7.29%
4.77%
5.53%
8.29%
0.38%
49.87%
0.25% 10.93%
2.76%
0.88%
0.25%
AUM Fee Levels: Portfolios $500,000-$1 millionMedian: 1.00%
0.25%
0.12%
0.74%
0.49%
0.49%
1.35%
0.86% 6.86%
1.10%
3.68%
3.19%
3.19%
17.77%
9.19%
8.09% 13.11%
0.12%
25.00%
0.25%
0.25%
2.45%
0.98%
0.25%
0.25%
0.10
%0.20
%0.25
%0.30
%0.35
%0.40
%0.45
%0.50
%0.55
%0.60
%0.65
%0.70
%0.75
%0.80
%0.85
%0.90
%0.95
%1.00
%1.10
%1.20
%1.25
%1.50
%1.75
%2.00
%
AUM Fee Levels: Portfolios $1-$2 million
Median: 0.85%
0.12%
0.12%
0.12%
0.25%
1.84%
0.98%
1.11%
2.58%
1.47%
11.79%
2.83%
6.02%
4.79%
6.88%
19.41%
11.06%
8.60%
6.51%
0.00%
11.43%
0.00%
0.00%
0.86%
0.74%
0.25%
0.25%
0.05
%0.10
%0.15
%0.20
%0.25
%0.30
%0.35
%0.40
%0.45
%0.50
%0.55
%0.60
%0.65
%0.70
%0.75
%0.80
%0.85
%0.90
%0.95
%1.00
%1.10
%1.20
%1.25
%1.50
%1.75
%2.00
%
AUM Fee Levels: Portfolios $2-$3 million
Median: 0.75%
to answer this question, because$250,000 is below their stated
minimum, but one of the surprises
of the survey was that, in the real
world,morethan2/3rds(68.85%)ofplanningfirmsareactuallyman-
aging portfolios of this size.
At this asset level, the 1%
consensus estimate seems to bereasonablyaccurate,andthatholdstrue for portfolios up to the $1 mil-
lionlevel(seeleft).Above$1mil-lion, the standard fee level drops to
85basispoints, and the spectrumoffeesbecomeswider,makingitabitmoredifficult to identifywhatis“reasonable.” The median fee drops to 75
basis points for portfolios in the
$2-$3 million range, and further to
65basispointsforclientportfoliosin the $3-$5 million range. Only
about 60% of respondents gave us
information in the $5-$10 million
range (this level is more aspira-tionalthanreflectiveofactualex-
perienceformanyfirms),butthosewho did reported a median of 50
basispoints.(Severalrespondents,intheopenfields,toldusthattheirfeesatthatlevelarenegotiable.) What is interesting, andwillbereflectedin latercharts, isthebroadspectrumoffeescharged.The industry standard 1% appears
tobereflectedmoreinthebreachthan the actual experience, witha significant number of advisorscharging45basispointsorlesson$3 million portfolios. Some read-
ers, meanwhile, are likely to reg-
ister some degree of astonishment
at the long, thin tail along the right
side of the graph, which reflectsadvisoryfirmschargingmorethan1.25%-inafewcases,muchmore-onclientportfoliosofsignificantscale.
0.13%
0.27%
0.13%
0.00%4.56%
1.88%
1.48%
0.13%
5.37%
18.12%
2.68%
10.60%
7.79%
7.38%
14.90%
7.92%
5.23%
3.22%
0.00%
6.71%
0.00%
0.00%
0.40%
0.54%
0.27%
0.13%
0.05
%0.10
%0.15
%0.20
%0.25
%0.30
%0.35
%0.40
%0.45
%0.50
%0.55
%0.60
%0.65
%0.70
%0.75
%0.80
%0.85
%0.90
%0.95
%1.00
%1.10
%1.20
%1.25
%1.50
%1.75
%2.00
%
Median: 0.65%
AUM Fee Levels: Portfolios $3-$5 million
AUM Fee Levels: Portfolios $5-$10 million
0.15%
0.60%
0.15%
1.05%
9.58%
2.99%
3.89% 7.19%
4.04%
26.35%
4.64% 8.83%
6.44%
4.04% 9.
43%
3.59%
1.65%
1.05%
0.00% 3.29%
0.15%
0.00%
0.00%
0.45%
0.15%
0.15%
0.05
%0.10
%0.15
%0.20
%0.25
%0.30
%0.35
%0.40
%0.45
%0.50
%0.55
%0.60
%0.65
%0.70
%0.75
%0.80
%0.85
%0.90
%0.95
%1.00
%1.10
%1.20
%1.25
%1.50
%1.75
%2.00
%
Median: 0.50%
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0.42%
0.11%
0.84%
0.84%
7.26%
6.94%
7.78%
7.68%
6.83%
4.94%
8.83%
4.10% 5.57%
4.10%
3.68%
7.47%
4.73%
3.47%
4.10%
0.00%
5.47%
3.15%
0.11%
0.84%
0.42%
0.32%
0%0.05
%0.10
%0.15
%0.20
%0.25
%0.30
%0.35
%0.40
%0.45
%0.50
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%0.60
%0.65
%0.70
%0.75
%0.80
%0.85
%0.90
%0.95
%1.00
%1.25
%1.35
%1.50
%1.75
%2.00
%
AdditionalPortfolioCosts Of course, AUM fees areonly one component of the coststhat are paid out of client portfo-
lios. Are there industry standards
forsomeoftheseothercosts? These additional expensesincludetheblendedexpenseratiosof the underlying investments in
clientportfolios-whethertheyaremutualfunds,ETFsorotherstruc-tures. We asked respondents toestimate theirexpenseratiocosts,andcametotheinterestingconclu-
sionthattheplanningprofession’sportfolio management processesare nowhere near as homogenous
astradepressarticleswouldhaveone believe.
The alert reader will no-
ticethatafewadvisorsreportzerounderlying expense ratios. Howis this possible? The commentsfields offers an explanation: thefar left of the expense ratio chartisoccupiedbyadvisoryfirmsthatmanageindividualstockandbondportfoliosfor theirclients-ratherthan funds and ETFs.
Meanwhile,onecanseebythecenterofgravityweightingonthechart’sleft-handsidethetrendtowardindexfundsandETFsgen-
erally, while a muddled middle
seems to show that a large plural-
ity of advisoryfirms are utilizingactively-managed funds in clientportfolios.
Some readers will onceagain be surprised at the not-alto-
gether-thin tail on the far right side
of theexpense ratiograph,whereadvisoryfirmsappeartobeinvest-ingthemajorityofclientassetsinhedgefundvehicles. The median of 50 basis
points a year would seem to be a
decent “reasonableness” figureexcept that in the real world itprobably divides two very differ-
entassetmanagementapproaches:those who build all-index portfo-
lios would fall on the left; thosewho follow a “core and explore”managementphilosophyclusteredaround the middle, and advisors
who employ actively-managedfunds positioned somewhat to the
rightofthecenter. Tradingcosts - that is, thecostofbuyingandsellingintoadoutofclientportfolios-isanotherobvious component of portfolioexpenses. As the reader can seeon thechartbelow,mostadvisorsappear to be working hard to keep
trading costs low (median 0.05%
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Estimated Blended Expense Ratios of Portfolio Investments11.00%
2.12%
1.69%
50.92%
18.76%
5.78%
4.37%
1.97%
0.85%
0.71%
0.42%
0.28%
0.85%
0.28%
0 . 00% 0.01% 0.02% 0.05% 0.10% 0.15% 0.20% 0.25% 0.30% 0.35% 0.40% 0.45% 0.50% 0.55%
Estimated Annual Trading Costs in Client Portfolios
Median:
0.50%
Median: 0.05%
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a year) but there is a very longthin tail that extends all the wayout to 0.55% a year. Some advi-
soryfirmsareaddingmorethan50basis points a year in client costsas a result of what one can onlyconclude are hyperactive tradingactivities. Based on the chart, itwould appear that the “reasona-bleness” threshold is indangerofbeing breached if annual tradingcostsexceed10basispoints. The 11% of survey re-
spondents who report 0% annual
tradingcostsmightseemperplex-
ing at first, but once again therewere two explanations on our“open”fields. First?Apparentlyitisnottotally uncommon for advisoryfirmstopayallclienttradingcostsoutoftheirexpenseratios-whichistosay,outoftheirownpockets. Theotherexplanation?Wealso asked the survey respondents
to tell us their platform fees - that
is, the fees incurred on their bro-
ker-dealer platforms, or for wrap
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77.91%
0.10%
0.10%
0.10%
0.52%
0.10%
0.10%
0.52%
0.21%
0.84%
0.31%
5.45%
3.14%
1.88%
1.05%
1.68%
0.63%
0.63%
0.10%
0.31%
0.31%
0.31%
0.42%
0.31%
0.10%
0.31%
1.99%
0.52%
Annual Platform Fees in Client Portfolios
feeaccounts,ortheirparticipationin institutional NTF platforms.(Seechartabove.) Asthereadercansee,most(just under 78%) are not payingany platform fees at all. For the
advisorswhoincurthem,theplat-form fees often represented some
orallof their tradingcosts. Thatis, some would report zero trading
costs, and platform fees instead.Others reported low trading costsplus platform fees.
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TotalPortfolioCosts Once you’ve gathered theAUM fees for different size portfo-
lios, plus an estimate of the blend-
edexpenseratiosoftheunderlyinginvestments in client portfolilos,along with annual trading costsandplatformfees,itbecomespos-sibletocalculateanall-incost,foreach participating advisory firm,for client portfolios of differentsizes.
Here, the profession’ssearchfor“reasonableness”reach-
esitsmostmeaningfulstage. It’spossible that some advisors are
chargingabove-averageAUMbuttheotherexpensesarebelow-aver-age,meaningtheirclientsarepay-
ingsomethingcomparabletowhatclientsarepayingwhentheyworkwith planning firms that chargehigher AUM rates.
It should be noted, before
we take a tour of the data, that
no attempt was made to assess
the effectiveness of the portfolio
management activities. It’s theo-
reticallypossiblethatsomeofthehighest-costportfoliosreflectedinthis survey are among the highest-
returning. It is also possible that
inexpensive portfolios are deliv-
ering some of the lowest perfor-
mance. Ontherightthereadercansee,forthefirsttimeinthissurvey,two tight bell graphs representing
the all-in costs for smaller clientportfolios - those under $250,000
in assets, and those with $250,000
to$500,000inclientassets.Eachgraphcomeswithachartthatshowsthemedianall-incost(1.85%and1.75%respectively)-datathatwearecertainhasnotbeencollectedand displayed anywhere else be-
forethepublicationofthissurvey.
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Total Annual Costs
Under-$250,000 Client
Portfolios
1.04%
1.19%
1.79% 3.13% 4.76%
5.51% 6.85%11.16%
6.55%
6.40% 7.74%
8.33%
6.40%
5.51%
4.61%
3.27%
2.68%
2.23%
1.49%
2.23%
1.64%
0.74%
0.74%
0.60%
0.15%
0.45%
0.45%
0.45%
0.60%
0.60%
0.30%
0.15%
0.30%
.25%
-.9%
.91%
-1.00%
1.01
%-1.10%
1.11
%-1.20%
1.21
%-1.30%
1.31
%-1.40%
1.41
%-1.50%
1.51
%-1.60%
1.61
%-1.70%
1.71
%-1.80%
1.81
%-1.90%
1.91
%-2.00%
2.01
%-2.10%
2.11
%-2.20%
2.21
%-2.30%
2.31
%-2.40%
2.41
%-2.50%
2.51
%-2.60%
2.61
%-2.70%
2.71
%-2.80%
2.81
%-2.90%
2.91
%-3.00%
3.01
%-3.10%
3.11
%-3.20%
3.21
%-3.30%
3.31
%-3.40%
3.41
%-3.50%
3.51
%-3.60%
3.61
%-3.70%
3.71
%-3.80%
3.81
%-3.90%
3.91
%-4.00%
4.00
%+
Wealsomadeanattempttodefine the “reasonableness” spec-trumbyidentifyingthepercentageof respondents whose numbers,
whenaddedtogether,fellintocer-tain ranges, and at the bottom, the
all-incosts thatdefined theupperand lower boundaries of the larg-
est range. If the all-in costs fallanywhere between those two num-
bers - 1.4% to 2.4% for the small-
est portfolios - one would imagine
that a reasonable person would de-
finethemas“reasonable.”Acourtof law or the DOL would probably
workoffofabroaderspectrum.
Total Annual Costs
$250,000-$500,000
Client Portfolios
1.29%
2.01%
1.73% 3.74% 5.90%
6.04%
7.34%
11.80%
7.77%
7.91%
9.21%
7.48%
5.47%
4.03%
3.88%
2.30%
1.87%
1.44%
1.58%
1.29%
1.01%
0.29%
0.58%
0.72%
0.58%
0.29%
0.43%
0.43%
0.43%
0.43%
0.00%
0.00%
0.72%
.35%
-.9%
.91%
-1.00%
1.01
%-1.10%
1.11
%-1.20%
1.21
%-1.30%
1.31
%-1.40%
1.41
%-1.50%
1.51
%-1.60%
1.61
%-1.70%
1.71
%-1.80%
1.81
%-1.90%
1.91
%-2.00%
2.01
%-2.10%
2.11
%-2.20%
2.21
%-2.30%
2.31
%-2.40%
2.41
%-2.50%
2.51
%-2.60%
2.61
%-2.70%
2.71
%-2.80%
2.81
%-2.90%
2.91
%-3.00%
3.01
%-3.10%
3.11
%-3.20%
3.21
%-3.30%
3.31
%-3.40%
3.41
%-3.50%
3.51
%-3.60%
3.61
%-3.70%
3.71
%-3.80%
3.81
%-3.90%
3.91
%-4.00%
4.00
%+
Median: 1.85%Under1% 1.79%Bet.1-2% 62.65%Bet.2-3% 30.80%Bet.3-4% 4.46%above4% 0.30%1.4%-2.4% 69.94%
Median: 1.75%Under1% 2.23%Bet.1-2% 69.49%Bet.2-3% 26.79%Bet.3-4% 4.61%above4% 0.74%1.4%-2.4% 73.66%
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If the reader imagined that
the higher AUM levels were some-
howcancelledoutbycomparablylow portfolio expense ratios ortrading costs, the charts offer anantidote in the form of the long
thin tail stringing along to the right
ofthefirsttwographs,andcontin-
uing through thenextfive. Onceyou get beyond all-in costs ofroughly 2.4% for portfolios under
$1 million, and 2.0% for portfolios
under $3 million, you begin to see
asmallbutpersistentpercentageofthesamplewhoseclientsarepay-
ingincreasinglyhighcosts-higherthan 3% and, in a small handful of
cases,above4%ayear. Overall, however, it would
appear that clients of financialplanning and wealth management
firms - the great majority of re-spondents to this survey - are get-
ting a break on fees. The broker-
age world has boasted a flat 3%total all-in portfolio cost, whichin recent years has been stead-
ily negotiated downward to 2.5%.
Planning and wealth management
firms, on the other hand, seem tobeclustering,forportfoliosabove$1 million, in a range below 2% a
year,insomecaseswellbelow. Meanwhile, one sees a def-
inite shift to the left (lower all-inexpenses) asportfoliosget larger,but it’s fair to wonder whetherthese larger portfolios require a
great deal more effort on the part
of the planning/wealth manage-
ment firm to justify the slow de-clineinAUMfees.
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Total Annual Costs
$500,000-$1 Million
Client Portfolios
2.73%
0.86% 3.
17%5.61% 7.48%
7.48% 8.92%
10.65%
9.64%
8.20%
8.49%
5.04%
5.04%
2.30% 3.45%
2.45%
1.01%
1.01%
1.29%
0.86%
0.72%
0.72%
0.14%
0.14%
0.58%
0.00%
0.43%
0.58%
0.00%
0.14%
0.14%
0.14%
0.58%
.25%
-.9%
.91%
-1.00%
1.01
%-1.10%
1.11
%-1.20%
1.21
%-1.30%
1.31
%-1.40%
1.41
%-1.50%
1.51
%-1.60%
1.61
%-1.70%
1.71
%-1.80%
1.81
%-1.90%
1.91
%-2.00%
2.01
%-2.10%
2.11
%-2.20%
2.21
%-2.30%
2.31
%-2.40%
2.41
%-2.50%
2.51
%-2.60%
2.61
%-2.70%
2.71
%-2.80%
2.81
%-2.90%
2.91
%-3.00%
3.01
%-3.10%
3.11
%-3.20%
3.21
%-3.30%
3.31
%-3.40%
3.41
%-3.50%
3.51
%-3.60%
3.61
%-3.70%
3.71
%-3.80%
3.81
%-3.90%
3.91
%-4.00%
4.00
%+
Median: 1.65%Under1% 3.60%Bet.1-2% 73.53%Bet.2-3% 20.43%Bet.3-4% 2.59%above4% 0.58%1.4%-2.4% 67.77%
Total Annual Costs
$1-$2 Million
Client Portfolios
1.41%
4.64%
5.06%
5.34%
8.30%
9.00%
8.58%
8.16% 10.27%
9.00%
6.47%
4.50%
2.81% 4.50%
1.97%
2.95%
0.70%
1.27%
0.98%
0.42%
0.98%
0.42%
0.14%
0.28%
0.28%
0.14%
0.00%
0.42%
0.28%
0.14%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.56%
.20%
-.65
%.66%
-.9%
.91%
-1.00%
1.01
%-1.10%
1.11
%-1.20%
1.21
%-1.30%
1.31
%-1.40%
1.41
%-1.50%
1.51
%-1.60%
1.61
%-1.70%
1.71
%-1.80%
1.81
%-1.90%
1.91
%-2.00%
2.01
%-2.10%
2.11
%-2.20%
2.21
%-2.30%
2.31
%-2.40%
2.41
%-2.50%
2.51
%-2.60%
2.61
%-2.70%
2.71
%-2.80%
2.81
%-2.90%
2.91
%-3.00%
3.01
%-3.10%
3.11
%-3.20%
3.21
%-3.30%
3.31
%-3.40%
3.41
%-3.50%
3.51
%-3.60%
3.61
%-3.70%
3.71
%-3.80%
3.81
%-3.90%
3.91
%-4.00%
4.00
%+
Median: 1.50%Under1% 8.16%Bet.1-2% 73.70%Bet.2-3% 15.89%Bet.3-4% 1.97%above4% 0.56%1.0%-2.0% 73.70%
Total Annual Costs
$2-$3 Million
Client Portfolios
2.76%
3.37%
3.68%
9.49%
8.42% 11
.03%
9.34%
7.66%9.65%
8.58%
5.36%
4.29%
2.14% 3.
83%
2.60%
1.53%
1.07%
1.38%
0.46%
0.61%
0.15%
0.00%
0.31%
0.00%
0.46%
0.31%
0.46%
0.15%
0.31%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.15%
0.46%
.15%
-.65
%.66%
-.9%
.91%
-1.00%
1.01
%-1.10%
1.11
%-1.20%
1.21
%-1.30%
1.31
%-1.40%
1.41
%-1.50%
1.51
%-1.60%
1.61
%-1.70%
1.71
%-1.80%
1.81
%-1.90%
1.91
%-2.00%
2.01
%-2.10%
2.11
%-2.20%
2.21
%-2.30%
2.31
%-2.40%
2.41
%-2.50%
2.51
%-2.60%
2.61
%-2.70%
2.71
%-2.80%
2.81
%-2.90%
2.91
%-3.00%
3.01
%-3.10%
3.11
%-3.20%
3.21
%-3.30%
3.31
%-3.40%
3.41
%-3.50%
3.51
%-3.60%
3.61
%-3.70%
3.71
%-3.80%
3.81
%-3.90%
3.91
%-4.00%
4.00
%+
Median: 1.40%Under1% 14.24%Bet.1-2% 79.63%Bet.2-3% 12.71%Bet.3-4% 1.84%above4% 0.46%0.85%-1.9% 77.49%
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Total Annual Costs
$3-$5 Million
Client Portfolios
Total Annual Costs
$5-$10 Million
Client Portfolios
3.35%
11.89%
8.99%
7.47% 9.
60%
10.21%
6.40% 7.47%
8.08%
7.01%
3.81%
2.74%
1.83%
2.74%
1.98%
1.07%
0.30% 1.52%
0.46%
0.61%
0.30%
0.30%
0.30%
0.15%
0.00%
0.61%
0.15%
0.00%
0.15%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.30%
0.15%
.15%
-.65
%.66%
-.9%
.91%
-1.00%
1.01
%-1.10%
1.11
%-1.20%
1.21
%-1.30%
1.31
%-1.40%
1.41
%-1.50%
1.51
%-1.60%
1.61
%-1.70%
1.71
%-1.80%
1.81
%-1.90%
1.91
%-2.00%
2.01
%-2.10%
2.11
%-2.20%
2.21
%-2.30%
2.31
%-2.40%
2.41
%-2.50%
2.51
%-2.60%
2.61
%-2.70%
2.71
%-2.80%
2.81
%-2.90%
2.91
%-3.00%
3.01
%-3.10%
3.11
%-3.20%
3.21
%-3.30%
3.31
%-3.40%
3.41
%-3.50%
3.51
%-3.60%
3.61
%-3.70%
3.71
%-3.80%
3.81
%-3.90%
3.91
%-4.00%
4.00
%+
Median: 1.30%Under1% 20.27%Bet.1-2% 68.60%Bet.2-3% 9.60%Bet.3-4% 1.37%above4% 0.15%0.7%-1.7% 81.25%
3.68%
18.42%
9.12%
10.00%
10.00%
6.14%
9.65%
7.19%
5.79%
2.98%
2.98%
3.16%
2.28%
1.75%
1.40%
0.53%
0.70%
0.88%
0.70%
0.35%
0.53%
0.35%
0.18%
0.00%
0.35%
0.00%
0.18%
0.18%
0.18%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.18%
0.18%
.20%
-.65
%.66%
-.9%
.91%
-1.00%
1.01
%-1.10%
1.11
%-1.20%
1.21
%-1.30%
1.31
%-1.40%
1.41
%-1.50%
1.51
%-1.60%
1.61
%-1.70%
1.71
%-1.80%
1.81
%-1.90%
1.91
%-2.00%
2.01
%-2.10%
2.11
%-2.20%
2.21
%-2.30%
2.31
%-2.40%
2.41
%-2.50%
2.51
%-2.60%
2.61
%-2.70%
2.71
%-2.80%
2.81
%-2.90%
2.91
%-3.00%
3.01
%-3.10%
3.11
%-3.20%
3.21
%-3.30%
3.31
%-3.40%
3.41
%-3.50%
3.51
%-3.60%
3.61
%-3.70%
3.71
%-3.80%
3.81
%-3.90%
3.91
%-4.00%
4.00
%+
Median: 1.20%Under1% 30.53%Bet.1-2% 64.56%Bet.2-3% 7.19%Bet.3-4% 1.23%above4% 0.18%0.6%-1.6% 80.00%
Inthefinaltwototalannualcostcharts,whichreflecttheall-inexpensesofclientportfoliosabove$3 million in size, the slow shift
totheleftcontinues,andwhathadbeenabell-likecurvemorecloselyresembles a slope.
The center of gravity re-sides in the 0.6% to 1.7% range,
again significantly lower than thereported costs associated withbroker-managed portfolios, onceagain with the now-familiar long
thin tail extending to the right.Advisors who are making a men-
talcalculationare likely tobeas-toundedatthecostseitherchargedor incurred by a very small, butstillvisiblepercentageofthetotalrespondent base.
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All-InCostByFirmType
Thepreviouschartsbeggedan interesting question: are differ-
enttypesoffirmschargingclientsdifferently?Arefirmsofdifferentsize, or advisors of different ex-
perience level,managingmoreorlessexpensiveportfolios? In the beginning of this
study, it was reported that we had
collected several types of “de-mographic” data about our re-spondents:theirbusinessstructure(wealth management vs. dually-registered, vs. asset manager, vs.
fee-only advisor, vs. brokerage
firmrep),theiryearsofexperienceandthesizeoftheirfirms.Byas-sociatingthatinformationwiththeall-inexpensesofeachrespondentforwhichwehadthisprofiledata,wewereabletoexaminewhetherdifferent types of advisors couldbe associated with different ex-
pensestructures. In this and subsequent
pages,weexamine theall-in coststructures for portfolios of $1-$2million in value - a size categorythat seemed not to be below most
minimums or above most firms’actualexperience. Thetoprightchartreflectsthe relatively low percentage ofbrokerage firm representatives intheoverallsample(agoodreasonto view the resultswith caution),whilethebottomchartonthispagereflects a similarly small numberof fee-only asset managers. The
median brokeragefirm all-in costappears to be in line with other
published reports, but the sur-
prise is theconsiderablevariation
10
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
6.67%
0.00%
6.67%
6.67%
6.67%
6.67%
6.67%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
6.67%
0.00%
6.67%
20.00%
6.67%
0.00%
6.67%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
6.67%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
.20%
-.65
%.66%
-.9%
.91%
-1.00%
1.01
%-1.10%
1.11
%-1.20%
1.21
%-1.30%
1.31
%-1.40%
1.41
%-1.50%
1.51
%-1.60%
1.61
%-1.70%
1.71
%-1.80%
1.81
%-1.90%
1.91
%-2.00%
2.01
%-2.10%
2.11
%-2.20%
2.21
%-2.30%
2.31
%-2.40%
2.41
%-2.50%
2.51
%-2.60%
2.61
%-2.70%
2.71
%-2.80%
2.81
%-2.90%
2.91
%-3.00%
3.01
%-3.10%
3.11
%-3.20%
3.21
%-3.30%
3.31
%-3.40%
3.41
%-3.50%
3.51
%-3.60%
3.61
%-3.70%
3.71
%-3.80%
3.81
%-3.90%
3.91
%-4.00%
4.00
%+
Median: 2.27%
0.00%
5.56%
0.00%
5.56%
16.67%
0.00%
11.11%
16.67%
0.00%
5.56%
11.11%
0.00%
11.11%
5.56%
0.00%
11.11%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
.20%
-.65
%.66%
-.9%
.91%
-1.00%
1.01
%-1.10%
1.11
%-1.20%
1.21
%-1.30%
1.31
%-1.40%
1.41
%-1.50%
1.51
%-1.60%
1.61
%-1.70%
1.71
%-1.80%
1.81
%-1.90%
1.91
%-2.00%
2.01
%-2.10%
2.11
%-2.20%
2.21
%-2.30%
2.31
%-2.40%
2.41
%-2.50%
2.51
%-2.60%
2.61
%-2.70%
2.71
%-2.80%
2.81
%-2.90%
2.91
%-3.00%
3.01
%-3.10%
3.11
%-3.20%
3.21
%-3.30%
3.31
%-3.40%
3.41
%-3.50%
3.51
%-3.60%
3.61
%-3.70%
3.71
%-3.80%
3.81
%-3.90%
3.91
%-4.00%
4.00
%+
Median: 1.40%
among individual brokers. True,
most respondents build portfolios
with all-in expenses of 2.3% to2.6%, but a substantial plurality of
brokers with a financial planningorientation - which is what thisstudycaptured-areofferingabet-ter deal: portfolios costing 1% toaround 1.7%.
We see a similar diversityamong the fee-only asset manag-
ers,although theirall-incostsareconsiderably lower - indeed, thelowest of the total survey. In fu-
turereports,we’llneedtoaskhowit ispossible tomanageclientas-setsprofitablyforlessthan90ba-sis points a year.
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Brokerage Representatives
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0.00% 1.
58%
4.21% 5.26%
7.89% 9.
47%
10.00%
7.37%
10.53%
8.42%
7.37%
5.26%
2.63%
5.79%
2.63%
2.63%
0.53% 1.58%
0.53%
1.05%
1.58%
1.05%
0.00%
0.53%
0.53%
0.00%
0.00%
0.53%
0.53%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.53%
.20%
-.65
%.66%
-.9%
.91%
-1.00%
1.01
%-1.10%
1.11
%-1.20%
1.21
%-1.30%
1.31
%-1.40%
1.41
%-1.50%
1.51
%-1.60%
1.61
%-1.70%
1.71
%-1.80%
1.81
%-1.90%
1.91
%-2.00%
2.01
%-2.10%
2.11
%-2.20%
2.21
%-2.30%
2.31
%-2.40%
2.41
%-2.50%
2.51
%-2.60%
2.61
%-2.70%
2.71
%-2.80%
2.81
%-2.90%
2.91
%-3.00%
3.01
%-3.10%
3.11
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3.21
%-3.30%
3.31
%-3.40%
3.41
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3.51
%-3.60%
3.61
%-3.70%
3.71
%-3.80%
3.81
%-3.90%
3.91
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4.00
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Median: 1.60%
0.00%
0.73%
0.73% 2.19%
5.11%
8.03%
5.11%
8.03%
13.14%
10.95%
9.49%
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4.38%6.57%
2.92% 4.38%
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1.31
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1.61
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1.71
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1.81
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2.01
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2.11
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2.21
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2.31
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2.41
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2.51
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2.61
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2.71
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2.81
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3.01
%-3.10%
3.11
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3.21
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3.31
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3.41
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3.51
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3.61
%-3.70%
3.71
%-3.80%
3.81
%-3.90%
3.91
%-4.00%
4.00
%+
Median: 1.70%
The three graphs to the
rightrepresentthethreelargestco-
hortsofrespondentsbasedonfirmtype.Dually-registeredrepsclear-lyreflectthebroadestspectrumofcosts, but there is clustering be-tween 1% and around 2.1%. It is
important to remember that these
AUMfeesare,inmanycases,sup-
plementedbycommissions,sotheAUM fee doesn’t reflect the fullcompensationstory. Fee-only planning firmsappear to be the most cost-con-
scious among the different firmtypes;theirmedianistiedforlow-
est with the asset managers, and
theclusteringisfurthertotheleftof the graph, with considerablenumbers reporting all-in portfolio
costsunder1.5%. Comprehensive wealthmanagersaresomewhatmoreex-
pensive in the $1-$2 million port-
folio range, and their responses
form another bell curve around amedianof1.6%all-inexpenses. By now, the reader will not
be surprised by the long thin tails
extendingouttotherightoneachgraph, with the tails a bit fatter for
dually-registered reps and wealth
managementfirms.Indeed,asig-
nificant plurality of participantswhoself-identifiedasdually-regis-tered or wealth manager reported
all-inexpensesabove2.6%-asex-
pensive as the standard wirehouse
feestructure.
Comprehensive Wealth Management Firms
1.80%
8.98%
7.78%
6.89%
9.58%
9.58%
8.98%
8.68%
9.28%
8.98%
5.09%
4.49%
2.10%
2.69%
1.20% 2.10%
0.60%
0.00%
0.00%
0.30%
0.00%
0.00%
0.30%
0.30%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.60%
0.30%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
.20%
-.65
%.66%
-.9%
.91%
-1.00%
1.01
%-1.10%
1.11
%-1.20%
1.21
%-1.30%
1.31
%-1.40%
1.41
%-1.50%
1.51
%-1.60%
1.61
%-1.70%
1.71
%-1.80%
1.81
%-1.90%
1.91
%-2.00%
2.01
%-2.10%
2.11
%-2.20%
2.21
%-2.30%
2.31
%-2.40%
2.41
%-2.50%
2.51
%-2.60%
2.61
%-2.70%
2.71
%-2.80%
2.81
%-2.90%
2.91
%-3.00%
3.01
%-3.10%
3.11
%-3.20%
3.21
%-3.30%
3.31
%-3.40%
3.41
%-3.50%
3.51
%-3.60%
3.61
%-3.70%
3.71
%-3.80%
3.81
%-3.90%
3.91
%-4.00%
4.00
%+
Median: 1.40%
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Dually-Registered Representatives
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0.00%
7.63% 8.47%
6.78%
4.24%
9.32%
7.63% 8.47%
8.47%
6.78%
5.93%
5.93%
3.39%
5.93%
1.69% 2.54%
0.00% 0.85%
0.85%
0.85%
0.85%
0.00%
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0.00%
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.91%
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1.01
%-1.10%
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%-1.20%
1.21
%-1.30%
1.31
%-1.40%
1.41
%-1.50%
1.51
%-1.60%
1.61
%-1.70%
1.71
%-1.80%
1.81
%-1.90%
1.91
%-2.00%
2.01
%-2.10%
2.11
%-2.20%
2.21
%-2.30%
2.31
%-2.40%
2.41
%-2.50%
2.51
%-2.60%
2.61
%-2.70%
2.71
%-2.80%
2.81
%-2.90%
2.91
%-3.00%
3.01
%-3.10%
3.11
%-3.20%
3.21
%-3.30%
3.31
%-3.40%
3.41
%-3.50%
3.51
%-3.60%
3.61
%-3.70%
3.71
%-3.80%
3.81
%-3.90%
3.91
%-4.00%
4.00
%+
5.81%
3.49%
9.30%
6.98%
11.63%
3.49%
6.98% 8.14%
6.98%
5.81%
4.65%6.98%
2.33%4.65%
1.16%
0.00% 1.16%
1.16% 2.33%
0.00% 1.16%
1.16%
1.16%
1.16%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00% 1.16%
1.16%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
.20%
-.65
%.66%
-.9%
.91%
-1.00%
1.01
%-1.10%
1.11
%-1.20%
1.21
%-1.30%
1.31
%-1.40%
1.41
%-1.50%
1.51
%-1.60%
1.61
%-1.70%
1.71
%-1.80%
1.81
%-1.90%
1.91
%-2.00%
2.01
%-2.10%
2.11
%-2.20%
2.21
%-2.30%
2.31
%-2.40%
2.41
%-2.50%
2.51
%-2.60%
2.61
%-2.70%
2.71
%-2.80%
2.81
%-2.90%
2.91
%-3.00%
3.01
%-3.10%
3.11
%-3.20%
3.21
%-3.30%
3.31
%-3.40%
3.41
%-3.50%
3.51
%-3.60%
3.61
%-3.70%
3.71
%-3.80%
3.81
%-3.90%
3.91
%-4.00%
4.00
%+
All-InCostbyFirmSize Aretheredifferencesinall-in costs basedonfirm size? Theanswer isyes;at least, theshapesof the graphs appear to be differ-
ent, and the medians for the small-
est firms (see right) and largest(seenextpage)firmsaredifferentfrom their peers.
The three graphs on the
right side of this page are almost
certainlysoloadvisoryfirms.Thesmallest firms are the most cost-conscious,butallthreegroupsareclusteredinthe1%to2%range.
12
6.00%
10.00%
8.00%
8.00% 10
.00%
10.00%
8.00%
6.00%
14.00%
4.00%
0.00% 2.00%
2.00% 4.00%
0.00% 2.00%
0.00%
0.00% 2.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00% 2.00%
0.00% 2.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
.20%
-.65
%.66%
-.9%
.91%
-1.00%
1.01
%-1.10%
1.11
%-1.20%
1.21
%-1.30%
1.31
%-1.40%
1.41
%-1.50%
1.51
%-1.60%
1.61
%-1.70%
1.71
%-1.80%
1.81
%-1.90%
1.91
%-2.00%
2.01
%-2.10%
2.11
%-2.20%
2.21
%-2.30%
2.31
%-2.40%
2.41
%-2.50%
2.51
%-2.60%
2.61
%-2.70%
2.71
%-2.80%
2.81
%-2.90%
2.91
%-3.00%
3.01
%-3.10%
3.11
%-3.20%
3.21
%-3.30%
3.31
%-3.40%
3.41
%-3.50%
3.51
%-3.60%
3.61
%-3.70%
3.71
%-3.80%
3.81
%-3.90%
3.91
%-4.00%
4.00
%+
Median: 1.30%
Median: 1.45%
Median: 1.45%
Revenues: $50,000 - $100,000
Revenues: $100,000 - $250,000
Revenues: $250,000 - $500,000
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0.66%
5.92%
5.92%
3.95%
9.87%
10.53%
8.55%
3.29%
10.53%
11.18%
7.24%
1.32%3.29%
2.63% 3.95%
4.61%
0.00% 1.32%
1.97%
1.32%
0.00%
0.66%
0.00%
0.00%
0.66%
0.66%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
.20%
-.65
%.66%
-.9%
.91%
-1.00%
1.01
%-1.10%
1.11
%-1.20%
1.21
%-1.30%
1.31
%-1.40%
1.41
%-1.50%
1.51
%-1.60%
1.61
%-1.70%
1.71
%-1.80%
1.81
%-1.90%
1.91
%-2.00%
2.01
%-2.10%
2.11
%-2.20%
2.21
%-2.30%
2.31
%-2.40%
2.41
%-2.50%
2.51
%-2.60%
2.61
%-2.70%
2.71
%-2.80%
2.81
%-2.90%
2.91
%-3.00%
3.01
%-3.10%
3.11
%-3.20%
3.21
%-3.30%
3.31
%-3.40%
3.41
%-3.50%
3.51
%-3.60%
3.61
%-3.70%
3.71
%-3.80%
3.81
%-3.90%
3.91
%-4.00%
4.00
%+
0.47%
3.30%
1.89% 3.
77%
8.02%10.38%
9.43%
10.38%
10.38% 13.21%
7.55%
5.19%
2.36%4.72%
1.89%
2.36%
0.47%
1.42%
0.00%
0.00%
0.94%
0.47%
0.00%
0.00%
0.47%
0.00%
0.00%
0.94%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
.20%
-.65
%.66%
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.91%
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1.01
%-1.10%
1.11
%-1.20%
1.21
%-1.30%
1.31
%-1.40%
1.41
%-1.50%
1.51
%-1.60%
1.61
%-1.70%
1.71
%-1.80%
1.81
%-1.90%
1.91
%-2.00%
2.01
%-2.10%
2.11
%-2.20%
2.21
%-2.30%
2.31
%-2.40%
2.41
%-2.50%
2.51
%-2.60%
2.61
%-2.70%
2.71
%-2.80%
2.81
%-2.90%
2.91
%-3.00%
3.01
%-3.10%
3.11
%-3.20%
3.21
%-3.30%
3.31
%-3.40%
3.41
%-3.50%
3.51
%-3.60%
3.61
%-3.70%
3.71
%-3.80%
3.81
%-3.90%
3.91
%-4.00%
4.00
%+
0.00%
0.00% 1.15%
6.90%
5.75% 6.90% 8.05%
12.64%
13.79%
4.60%
9.20%
4.60%
3.45% 5.
75%
1.15%
4.60%
3.45%
1.15%
0.00%
0.00%
3.45%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00% 1.15%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00% 2.
30%
.20%
-.65
%.66%
-.9%
.91%
-1.00%
1.01
%-1.10%
1.11
%-1.20%
1.21
%-1.30%
1.31
%-1.40%
1.41
%-1.50%
1.51
%-1.60%
1.61
%-1.70%
1.71
%-1.80%
1.81
%-1.90%
1.91
%-2.00%
2.01
%-2.10%
2.11
%-2.20%
2.21
%-2.30%
2.31
%-2.40%
2.41
%-2.50%
2.51
%-2.60%
2.61
%-2.70%
2.71
%-2.80%
2.81
%-2.90%
2.91
%-3.00%
3.01
%-3.10%
3.11
%-3.20%
3.21
%-3.30%
3.31
%-3.40%
3.41
%-3.50%
3.51
%-3.60%
3.61
%-3.70%
3.71
%-3.80%
3.81
%-3.90%
3.91
%-4.00%
4.00
%+
13
Median: 1.60%
Median: 1.55%
Median: 1.55%
Larger firms appear tochargemore,but thedifferenceisnotdramatic,andcouldbeduetoawiderrangeofservices,orsimplyamarketingpresence in thecom-
munity that allows for higher fees.
In addition, as firms getlarger, the fee structure seems tobecome somewhat more stand-
ardized. There is still a great deal
ofvariation,andcertainlynoevi-denceofprofessionalcollusion,butthebellshapeofthecostcurvesismore tightlydefinedaround1.3%to 2.0% a year. As the eye strays to
the right side of the graphs, some
readers will be scratching theirheads at firms incurring as muchas 3.4% a year - or, in a handful of
cases, reporting all-in fees above4% a year.
Revenues: $1-4 Million
Revenues: $500,000 - $1 Million
Revenues: $4+ Million
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2.33%
11.63%
4.65%6.98%9.30%
9.30%
9.30%
2.33%
9.30%
6.98%
0.00%
0.00%2.33%
9.30%
4.65%
2.33%
0.00%2.33%
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0.00%2.33%
0.00%
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0.00%
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2.01
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2.21
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2.31
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2.61
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2.71
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2.81
%-2.90%
2.91
%-3.00%
3.01
%-3.10%
3.11
%-3.20%
3.21
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3.31
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3.41
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3.51
%-3.60%
3.61
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3.71
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3.81
%-3.90%
3.91
%-4.00%
4.00
%+
1.33%
6.67% 8.00%
6.67% 8.00%
12.00%
4.00%
2.67%
13.33%
8.00%
4.00% 5.33% 6.67%
4.00%
1.33%
0.00% 1.33%
1.33%
0.00%
0.00% 1.33%
1.33%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
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0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00% 1.33%
.20%
-.65
%.66%
-.9%
.91%
-1.00%
1.01
%-1.10%
1.11
%-1.20%
1.21
%-1.30%
1.31
%-1.40%
1.41
%-1.50%
1.51
%-1.60%
1.61
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1.71
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1.81
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1.91
%-2.00%
2.01
%-2.10%
2.11
%-2.20%
2.21
%-2.30%
2.31
%-2.40%
2.41
%-2.50%
2.51
%-2.60%
2.61
%-2.70%
2.71
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2.81
%-2.90%
2.91
%-3.00%
3.01
%-3.10%
3.11
%-3.20%
3.21
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3.31
%-3.40%
3.41
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3.51
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3.61
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3.71
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3.81
%-3.90%
3.91
%-4.00%
4.00
%+
1.81%4.07% 5.
88%
4.07%
10.86%
9.05%
9.95% 11
.76%
6.79%
11.31%
4.98%
5.43%
2.26% 4.
07%
1.81%
2.71%
0.45%
0.90%
0.90%
0.45%
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1.11
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2.01
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2.11
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2.21
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2.31
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2.41
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2.51
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2.61
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4.00
%+
14
All-InCostbyYearsofExperience Domoreexperiencedadvi-sors chargemore, or createmoreexpensive portfolios? The evi-denceisclearlymixed. The least experienced re-spondents to our survey also re-
ported the lowest overall expens-es, with the majority telling us that
their costs, when added together,amount to less than 1.50% a year.
1.50% was the median for
respondents who report having
6-10yearsofexperience,andfromhere, the graphs of advisors with
diffrent experience levels lookquite similar. It would appear that
professionals, regardless of ex-
perience, fall intomuch the samepattern in terms of all-in portfolio
costs.
Median: 1.35%
Median: 1.50%
Median: 1.45%
Experience: 1-5 Years
Experience: 6-10 Years
Experience: 11-20 Years
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0.84%
3.62%
3.90%5.85%
6.41%
8.91%
8.91%
7.80%
11.14%
8.08%
8.91%
4.18%
2.51% 3.90%
1.95% 3.
62%
0.84%
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1.39%
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%-2.00%
2.01
%-2.10%
2.11
%-2.20%
2.21
%-2.30%
2.31
%-2.40%
2.41
%-2.50%
2.51
%-2.60%
2.61
%-2.70%
2.71
%-2.80%
2.81
%-2.90%
2.91
%-3.00%
3.01
%-3.10%
3.11
%-3.20%
3.21
%-3.30%
3.31
%-3.40%
3.41
%-3.50%
3.51
%-3.60%
3.61
%-3.70%
3.71
%-3.80%
3.81
%-3.90%
3.91
%-4.00%
4.00
%+
15
Median: 1.55%
The reader is encouraged tobenchmark your own portfoliosagainstadvisoryfirmsofyourownexperience level,but itwouldap-
pear, from the graph at the right
comparedwith thepreviousones,that there is little consensus, andlittlecleardifferenceamongadvi-sorswhensortedbythiscriterion.
Experience: 20+ Years
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AllocationofFeestoServices A question which seemsnever to be asked in the planning
profession is: when you chargean AUM fee, what percent of itshould properly be allocated tomanaging assets, vs. non-asset-
managementserviceslikefinancialplanning,taxandestateplanning?In other words, of the total AUM
fees you’re collecting, howmuchispayingforotherservices? In our survey, we asked that
question in just that way. The an-
swerswereceivedarereflectedinthechartattheright,whichshowsalmost equal dispersion around
the tallest bar representing 50%.
Thereseemstobelittleconsensusamong advisors regarding what
percentageof theirAUMfeesarepayingforotheractivities. There is, however, agree-
ment on one issue. One quicklynotices that none of the respond-
ents reported that 100% of their
AUM fees should be allocated toplanning and other work. Indeed,
very few answered more than 80%.
The obvious conclusion: advisorswho charge some kind of fee formanaging assets view the portfolio
managementactivitiesashavingatleast some value.
At the other end of the
spectrum,a significantnumberofadvisoryfirmswouldappeartobepure asset managers, allocating20% or less of their AUM fees to
planning and other non-AUM re-
lated work.
However, these numbersshould be approached with a de-greeofcaution,andweshouldbeespecially cautiousof the conclu-
sion that these advisors see little
value in their planning work. Two-
thirds of the advisory firms whoparticipated in thesurveyalso re-
4.70%
2.03% 4.
57%
2.92% 4.95%
5.33%
5.96%
3.05%
6.09%
1.14%
20.81%
1.14%
7.87%
5.46%
5.71%
9.14%
4.19%
2.16%
2.41%
0.38%
0.00%
Advisors reporting % of AUM Fees That Pay for Non-Asset
Management Client Services (Financial Planning etc.)
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portcharging,inadditiontoAUM,some form of flat fees, hourly orcommission revenue. Indeed, aquicklookbackattheoriginaldatafile reveals thatmore thanhalfofthosewhowouldnotallocateanyof their AUM to planning work
do,indeed,chargesomecombina-tionofflatandhourly fees. 30%of those who would allocate just5% to non-planning activities arecharginginotherways,asare80%ofthoseallocating10%tonon-in-
vestmentactivities. As reported earlier, we
asked advisors to elaborate about
their fee structures inopen-endedfields. Some respondents madeit clear that their retainer incomepaid for their front-end planning
work, while ongoing planning
services were paid for under theAUMstructure. Otherassessflator hourly fees on a project basis,whileothershavebifurcated theirannual fees between AUM and a
flat fee structure, paid quarterly,monthly or annually. In those
cases, the AUM fees are payingpurely forAUM activities, while
the other compensation methodsarecoveringtheplanningandoth-
er non-AUM work. It is impossi-
ble to know, based on the data we
collected,whetherthisrepresentsatrend,butitmightpossiblyexplainthe high number of respondents
whose answers fall on the left side
of the graph.
What we CAN concludefromthisdatais thatasignificantnumberofplanningfirmsareusingthe AUM model to pay for a sig-
nificantamountofnon-AUMser-vices.Themedianfigureis50%. Meaning? When we talkabout industry standard AUM
fees, (whether promptedby someversion of the DOL Rule or other
exogenous circumstances) weshouldrecognizethataportionofthe fees ostensibly paid for manag-
ingtheportfolioisactuallypayingforthingsnotdirectlyrelatedtothemanagement of the portfolio.
When you read that theprofessioncharges1%ofAUMforportfolio management, the actualfigure may be closer to 50 basispoints - or less.
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DollarCostofServices The survey collected av-
erage AUM fees for portfolios of
various sizes, and the percentageof those fees that should be allo-
catedtopayingforassetmanage-ment vs. non-asset management
(planning-related) services. Withthis information in hand, we have
an opportunity to explore an in-
creasingly important topic in thefinancialplanningprofession. We’ve seen already thatthere is a trend toward either sup-
plementing AUM with hourly or
retainerfees,orreplacingAUMal-together with these alternative fee
structures.Butasyet,thetrendap-
pears to be in its early stages. Over
thenextseveralyears,manyadvi-sors will be asking important ques-
tions:
-Whatisanappropriateflatannualfeetochargeformanagingclientassets?Doesitincreasewithportfoliosize? -Whatisanappropriateflatannual fee for the financial plan-
ning work that is now paid for
outofmyAUMrevenues? DoesTHAT change for wealthier cli-ents? Unfortunately, the survey
didn’t ask respondents to tell ushowmuch theywere charging inretainers.Butthisdatacanbeeval-uated,directly,byothermeans. How? Almost exactly athirdoftheprofessionalswhocom-
pleted the survey told us that they
were compensated exclusively byAUM. Nearly all of them alsogave an estimate as to what per-
centageoftheirAUMfeesshouldproperly be attributed to their as-
setmanagementservices,vs.theirnon-AUMservices. By lookingat thepercent-of-AUM fees for different portfolio
17
sizes, and multiplying that by the
estimated allocation percentages,wecancalculateadollarcostthatthis implies for planning and asset
managementservicesforeachsur-veyparticipant.Thenwecanmapthosedollarcoststodifferentsizeportfolios,anddrawaspectrumofcosts for asset management, andfor non-asset-managment work
likefinancialplanning. Ideally, this would give an
advisor who is looking for a way
to migrate from AUM fees to an
annual flat feemodel some cluesabouthowmuchtocharge.
Inthisseriesofcharts,weassumed portfolios of different siz-
es: $250,000, $400,000, $800,000,
$1.5 million and $2.5 million.
What did we learn? Thefirst set of charts on this pageshows a broad spectrum of feeschargedbyadvisorsforbothtypesofservices,generallyclusteredbe-
4.70%
2.03% 4.
57%
2.92% 4.95%
5.33%
5.96%
3.05%
6.09%
1.14%
20.81%
1.14%
7.87%
5.46%
5.71%
9.14%
4.19%
2.16%
2.41%
0.38%
0.00%
0.36% 3.
21%
2.50%
7.14% 10
.00%
10.36%
16.43%
8.57%
6.07%9.29%
4.29% 5.71% 7.14%
1.43%
1.07%
1.79%
1.07%
1.07%
0.71%
0.71%
0.00%
0.00%
0.71%
0.36%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
$0-$20
0$2
01-$35
0$3
51-$50
0$5
01-$70
0$7
01-$90
0$9
01-$1,10
0$1
,101
-$1,30
0$1
,301
-$1,50
0$1
,501
-$1,70
0$1
,701
-$1,90
0$1
,901
-$2,10
0$2
,101
-$2,30
0$2
,301
-$2,50
0$2
,501
-$2,70
0$2
,701
-$2,90
0$2
,901
-$3,10
0$3
,101
-$3,30
0$3
,301
-$3,50
0$3
,501
-$3,70
0$3
,701
-$3,90
0$3
,901
-$4,10
0$4
,101
-$4,30
0$4
,301
-$4,50
0$4
,501
-$4,70
0$4
,701
-$4,90
0$4
,901
-$5,10
0$5
,101
-$5,30
0$5
,301
-$5,50
0$5
,501
-$5,70
0$5
,701
-$5,90
0$5
,901
-$6,10
0$6
,101
-$6,30
0$6
,301
-$6,50
0$6
,501
-$6,70
0
7.14%
2.50%
7.14%
5.00%
5.00% 7.14%
15.36%
9.29%
8.21%
12.50%
2.86%6.07%
5.71%
1.43%
1.43%
0.36%
1.43%
0.71%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.71%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
$0-$20
0$2
01-$35
0$3
51-$50
0$5
01-$70
0$7
01-$90
0$9
01-$1,10
0$1
,101
-$1,30
0$1
,301
-$1,50
0$1
,501
-$1,70
0$1
,701
-$1,90
0$1
,901
-$2,10
0$2
,101
-$2,30
0$2
,301
-$2,50
0$2
,501
-$2,70
0$2
,701
-$2,90
0$2
,901
-$3,10
0$3
,101
-$3,30
0$3
,301
-$3,50
0$3
,501
-$3,70
0$3
,701
-$3,90
0$3
,901
-$4,10
0$4
,101
-$4,30
0$4
,301
-$4,50
0$4
,501
-$4,70
0$4
,701
-$4,90
0$4
,901
-$5,10
0$5
,101
-$5,30
0$5
,301
-$5,50
0$5
,501
-$5,70
0$5
,701
-$5,90
0$5
,901
-$6,10
0$6
,101
-$6,30
0$6
,301
-$6,50
0$6
,501
-$6,70
0
AverageAUMFee: $1,521AveragePlanningFee: $1,417LowestAUMFee: $63LowestPlanningFee: $0HighestAUMFee: $4,688HighestPlanningFee: $5,313
Annual Asset Management Costs
$250,000 Client Portfolio
Annual Planning (NonAUM) Costs
$250,000 Client Portfolio
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6.38%
1.06%
2.48%
2.48%
6.74%
3.55% 5.32%
4.96%
3.19%
1.77%
17.38%
1.42%
9.22%
3.90%
4.61%
9.93%
2.13%
2.48%
2.48%
3.19%
0.71%
0.35%
1.06%
0.71%
0.00%
1.06%
0.00%
0.00%
0.71%
0.00%
0.35%
0.00%
0.00%
0.35%
$0-$20
0$2
01-$35
0$3
51-$50
0$5
01-$70
0$7
01-$90
0$9
01-$1,10
0$1
,101
-$1,30
0$1
,301
-$1,50
0$1
,501
-$1,70
0$1
,701
-$1,90
0$1
,901
-$2,10
0$2
,101
-$2,30
0$2
,301
-$2,50
0$2
,501
-$2,70
0$2
,701
-$2,90
0$2
,901
-$3,10
0$3
,101
-$3,30
0$3
,301
-$3,50
0$3
,501
-$3,70
0$3
,701
-$3,90
0$3
,901
-$4,10
0$4
,101
-$4,30
0$4
,301
-$4,50
0$4
,501
-$4,70
0$4
,701
-$4,90
0$4
,901
-$5,10
0$5
,101
-$5,30
0$5
,301
-$5,50
0$5
,501
-$5,70
0$5
,701
-$5,90
0$5
,901
-$6,10
0$6
,101
-$6,30
0$6
,301
-$6,50
0$6
,501
-$6,70
0
0.00%
0.00% 3.
19%
1.42%
2.48%
6.74% 8.87%
6.38%
5.32%
2.84%
17.38%
2.48%
9.57%
2.48% 4.26% 6.74%
4.26%
2.48%
2.48%
2.84%
3.19%
0.71%
0.00%
0.00%
1.06%
1.06%
0.00%
0.00%
0.71%
0.00%
0.71%
0.35%
0.00%
0.00%
$0-$20
0$2
01-$35
0$3
51-$50
0$5
01-$70
0$7
01-$90
0$9
01-$1,10
0$1
,101
-$1,30
0$1
,301
-$1,50
0$1
,501
-$1,70
0$1
,701
-$1,90
0$1
,901
-$2,10
0$2
,101
-$2,30
0$2
,301
-$2,50
0$2
,501
-$2,70
0$2
,701
-$2,90
0$2
,901
-$3,10
0$3
,101
-$3,30
0$3
,301
-$3,50
0$3
,501
-$3,70
0$3
,701
-$3,90
0$3
,901
-$4,10
0$4
,101
-$4,30
0$4
,301
-$4,50
0$4
,501
-$4,70
0$4
,701
-$4,90
0$4
,901
-$5,10
0$5
,101
-$5,30
0$5
,301
-$5,50
0$5
,501
-$5,70
0$5
,701
-$5,90
0$5
,901
-$6,10
0$6
,101
-$6,30
0$6
,301
-$6,50
0$6
,501
-$6,70
0
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AverageAUMFee: $2,255AveragePlanningFee: $2,099LowestAUMFee: $400LowestPlanningFee: $0HighestAUMFee: $6,300HighestPlanningFee: $6,700
low $2,300 with little clarity be-yond that.
Thepicturebecomesmoreinteresting as the analysis moves
tolargerportfolios.Whatseemedtobeabroadspectrum(i.e.nocon-
sensusintheprofession)becomesbroader as we move to $400,000
client portfolios, and this trendcontinues; that is, the picture be-comes increasingly muddled asportfoliosizeincreases. Asset management fees
for $400,000 portfolios tended
to “cluster” (using the term verybroadly)between$350ayearand$4,000, while financial planningfeessimilarly“clustered”between$0 and $3,900, with averages
somewhat higher for the larger
portfolio.
The substantially higher
planning-related fee for clientswith larger portfolios raises a ques-
tion: should wealthier people auto-
matically pay more for planningwork? Notice also the long thintailalongtherightofthesecharts.There are apparently advisory
firmswhichcharge$4,000,$5,000,even $6,000 a year for asset man-
agement work for $400,000 port-
folios, and some charge a similarfeeforplanningwork.(Note: the
AUMandplanning charts are in-
dependent of each other; that is,the firms charging $3,000 a year
Annual Asset Management Costs
$400,000 Client Portfolio
Annual Planning (NonAUM) Costs
$400,000 Client Portfolio
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4.90%
0.00% 2.
10%
0.35% 2.
45%
0.70% 2.45%
2.45% 3.50%
1.40%3.85%
0.70%
4.20%
1.05% 3.
15%
1.40%
4.55%
1.75% 3.15%
1.05%
13.99%
0.35%
3.85%
0.35%
5.94%
3.50%
3.50%
0.70%
4.20%
0.35%
8.74%
0.35% 1.75%
0.00% 1.05%
1.05% 2.10%
1.05%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.70%
0.00%
0.00% 1.05%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.35%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
19
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%2.45%
1.75%
1.05%
1.40%
2.10%
1.05%
9.44%
0.35%
6.64%
0.70%
4.20%
1.40%
6.29%
2.10% 3.85%
1.40%
14.34%
0.35% 1.75%
0.35%
5.59%
3.85%
2.45%
2.10% 3.50%
0.35%
3.85%
0.35%
3.50%
0.00% 1.05%
0.00%2.45%
0.00% 2.
10%
0.00%
2.80%
0.00% 1.05%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.35%
0.00%
0.35%
0.70%
0.00%
0.35%
0.00%
0.35%
AverageAUMFee: $4,132AveragePlanningFee: $3,811LowestAUMFee: $720LowestPlanningFee: $0HighestAUMFee: $10,800HighestPlanningFee: $10,100
forAUMmay be chargingmuchless,ormore,forplanningwork.) The dispersion is even
greater when we look at $800,000
portfolios, and what is most sur-
prisingishowquickly(intermsofportfoliosize)wearriveatavirtu-
ally zero consensus state on howmuchtocharge,indollarterms,forplanning and asset management
activities. The advisor who is looking
atthischartasaguidetoareason-
able fee for his/her various ser-
viceswilllikelycomeawayeitherconfusedordisappointed. So toowill an advisor who is searchingforasafeharbor“reasonable”feefor portfolio management activi-ties, whether to satisfy some future
version of the DOL rule, avoid
potential litigation or benchmarkhim/herself against profession-
widecompetition. Note, meanwhile, thatthe average portfolio manage-
ment cost, in dollar terms, for an$800,000 portfolio is nearly three
times as high as for a clientwith$250,000, and the planning fee is
morethandouble.Onceagain,wecanaskwhetherthewealthiercli-
Annual Asset Management Costs
$800,000 Client Portfolio
Annual Planning (NonAUM) Costs
$800,000 Client Portfolio
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0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.70%
1.05%
1.75%
0.00% 1.05%
1.05%
1.40%
0.70%
1.05% 2.45% 3.50%
1.40%
2.10%
0.35%
6.29%
2.80%
0.70%
3.50%
0.00%
2.45%
0.70%
3.85%
1.75%
4.90%
1.05%
4.55%
0.00%2.10%
1.05%
4.20%
0.00%
0.00%
10.84%
0.35%
2.80%
0.00% 1.05%
0.35%
0.00%
0.70%
5.24%
0.00% 1.05%
1.05%
0.35%
0.00% 1.
75%
2.10%
0.00%
0.70%
0.00% 1.40%
1.05%
0.00%
0.00% 1.40%
1.40%
0.00%
0.00%
2.45%
0.00%
0.35% 2.
10%
0.00%
0.00%
0.35%
0.70%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00% 1.
75%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.35%
$0-$20
0$3
51-$50
0$7
01-$90
0$1
,101
-$1,30
0$1
,501
-$1,70
0$1
,901
-$2,10
0$2
,301
-$2,50
0$2
,701
-$2,90
0$3
,101
-$3,30
0$3
,501
-$3,70
0$3
,901
-$4,10
0$4
,301
-$4,50
0$4
,701
-$4,90
0$5
,101
-$5,30
0$5
,501
-$5,70
0$5
,901
-$6,10
0$6
,301
-$6,50
0$6
,701
-$6,90
0$7
,101
-$7,30
0$7
,501
-$7,70
0$7
,901
-$8,10
0$8
,301
-$8,50
0$8
,701
-$8,90
0$9
,101
-$9,30
0$9
,501
-$9,70
0$9
,901
-$10
,100
$10,30
1-$1
0,50
0$1
0,70
1-$1
0,90
0$1
1,10
1-$1
1,30
0$1
1,50
1-$1
1,70
0$1
1,90
1-$1
2,10
0$1
2,30
1-$1
2,50
0$1
2,70
1-$1
2,90
0$1
3,10
1-$1
3,30
0$1
3,50
1-$1
3,70
0$1
3,90
1-$1
4,10
0$1
4,30
1-$1
4,50
0$1
4,70
1-$1
4,90
0$1
5,10
1-$1
5,30
0$1
5,50
1-$1
5,70
0
4.90%
0.00%
0.00% 1.
75%
0.70%
0.00%
0.35%
2.80%
0.70% 1.75%
1.75%
2.45%
0.70%
0.70%
1.40% 2.80%
0.70% 1.75%
0.70% 2.
45%
0.70%
1.40%
4.55%
0.35% 1.40%
0.35% 2.
10%
1.05%
4.55%
0.70%
4.20%
0.70%2.80%
0.35%
3.85%
0.70%
1.40%
10.49%
0.35%
1.05%
0.70%
1.05% 2.45%
0.00%
0.70%
5.94%
0.00%
2.45%
1.75%
2.10%
0.00% 1.40%
1.40%
0.00%
0.70%
0.00%
3.15%
1.05%
0.00%
0.00% 1.
75%
0.35%
0.00%
0.00% 1.05%
0.00%
0.35%
0.35%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
$0-$20
0$3
51-$50
0$7
01-$90
0$1
,101
-$1,30
0$1
,501
-$1,70
0$1
,901
-$2,10
0$2
,301
-$2,50
0$2
,701
-$2,90
0$3
,101
-$3,30
0$3
,501
-$3,70
0$3
,901
-$4,10
0$4
,301
-$4,50
0$4
,701
-$4,90
0$5
,101
-$5,30
0$5
,501
-$5,70
0$5
,901
-$6,10
0$6
,301
-$6,50
0$6
,701
-$6,90
0$7
,101
-$7,30
0$7
,501
-$7,70
0$7
,901
-$8,10
0$8
,301
-$8,50
0$8
,701
-$8,90
0$9
,101
-$9,30
0$9
,501
-$9,70
0$9
,901
-$10
,100
$10,30
1-$1
0,50
0$1
0,70
1-$1
0,90
0$1
1,10
1-$1
1,30
0$1
1,50
1-$1
1,70
0$1
1,90
1-$1
2,10
0$1
2,30
1-$1
2,50
0$1
2,70
1-$1
2,90
0$1
3,10
1-$1
3,30
0$1
3,50
1-$1
3,70
0$1
3,90
1-$1
4,10
0$1
4,30
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4,50
0$1
4,70
1-$1
4,90
0$1
5,10
1-$1
5,30
0$1
5,50
1-$1
5,70
0
AverageAUMFee: $6,689AveragePlanningFee: $6,175LowestAUMFee: $938LowestPlanningFee: $0HighestAUMFee: $15,750HighestPlanningFee: $13,500
entislikelytobethatmuchmorecomplicated or resource-intensivetoservice. Onecanconcludefromthechart of imputed costs for a $1.5millionportfolio that thisconsen-
susismoreelusivethanever-ex-
ceptthatfees,generally,arehigherfor wealthier individuals.
In these charts,we had tocreate a broader spectrum, sincethelongtailontheright(particu-
larly for portfolio management)extendstomuchhigherfeelevels.
Thisisalsoagoodplacetonote, in this and previous charts,that a substantial number (typi-cally 4%) of respondents, all ofthemcompensatedexclusivelyviaAUM,arecharging,by theiresti-mate,$0forfinancialplanningandothernon-AUMservices. Ontheother hand, as you can see from
the extreme left end of the assetmanagementcharts,fewarecharg-
ing zero or nearly zero for asset
management work. Otherwise, the
graphs tend to look similar; thatis, similar fees are being charged(albeitbydifferentadvisoryfirms)for planning and asset manage-
ment. The conclusion: there is a
Annual Planning (NonAUM) Costs
$1.5 Million Client Portfolio
Annual Asset Management Costs
$1.5 Million Client Portfolio
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AverageAUMFee: $10,039AveragePlanningFee: $9,139LowestAUMFee: $1,250LowestPlanningFee: $0HighestAUMFee: $31,250HighestPlanningFee: $22,500
cohort of advisory firmswho be-lieve that all their value lies in their
asset management work.
Turning to a chart repre-sentingtherespondents’figuresfora $2.5 million portfolio, we gener-
ally see more of the same, with a
wider dispersion and virtually no
consensus. Here again, the aver-age fee for managing assets and for
providing financial planning ser-viceswent up proportional to thesize of the portfolio.
The essential lesson re-
mainsthesame:thefinancialplan-
ning profession has a number of
verybasicquestionstoanswerbe-fore we arrive at a profession-wide
standardfeeforservicesrendered. That said, it should be re-
membered that there was no ef-
fort, in this survey, to collect anyinformation about the actual ser-vices rendered. Thus, the verybroad spectra illustrated here re-flecteachfirm’sAUMadjustedbythepercentage that each respond-
ent would allocate to planningvs. portfolio management, but the
actual services that their clients
receive could be very different.The advisory firm that typicallycharges $31,250 to manage $2.5million client portfoliosmight begenerating significant alpha, andthefirmthatchargesplanningfeesof $22,500 a year might be doing
an extraordinary taxmanagementand trust creating job. Until thenextsurveyasksmorepenetratingquestions,wejustdon’tknow.
Annual Asset Management Costs
$2.5 Million Client Portfolio
Annual Planning (NonAUM) Costs
$2.5 Million Client Portfolio
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Conclusions Whatdidwelearnfromthisexercise?Attheoutset,Ipromisednot to overburden this white paper
with the author’s opinions or su-
perfluous analysis, on the theorythat thereader ismorethancapa-ble of interpreting the data and ap-
plying it to your own business life.
I do, however, believe
that this snapshot of a profession
in transition offers some insights
whichcanbesummarizedbriefly.Among them:
The profession IS in tran-
sition, from an almost universal
AUM revenue model to some
combination ofAUM plus eitherhourly fees or flat fee charges -what some call retainers. This isalmostcertainlyanearlystageofalongerjourney,andwecanspecu-
late(withnodefinitiveproof)thatthe journey will entail a smaller
percentageoftotalfeeschargedbyAUM,andacorrespondinglylarg-
erpercentageofflatfeeorhourly.It may lead to an eventual aban-
donment of AUM altogether.
Second, for all the talkabout the commoditization of as-setmanagement (and, sometimes,financial planning) services, theprofession seems to be chargingcomfortablefeesforitsefforts.Infuture surveys, we will have the
opportunity to assess whether fees
arecomingdown,butthesnapshotdoes not give evidence that advi-soryfirmsarebeingforcedtodis-counttheircompensation. Third, Isuspect thatmanyreadersofthisreportwillfindtheall-incoststobesurprisinglylow,andmuchofthatseemstobedueto reductions in theaggregateex-
pense ratios of the underlying as-
setsinclientportfolios.Costdoesseem to matter when advisors are
selecting investments. I thinkwe
knewthisanecdotally,buttheevi-dencehereprovesthecase. Yet, it is also clear that alargepercentageofadvisoryfirms,perhaps more than half, are still
using actively-managed funds intheir client portfolios, based onthe expense structures reportedhere.Thenumbersshowasignifi-
cant numberof advisors have cutportfolio-relatedcosts(andtradingcosts)deepdowntothebone,butothers appear to be comfortablebuying reasonably-priced judg-
mentinthefundstheyrecommendtoclients. Fourth, there are a number
ofareaswhereadvisoryfirmshavenot only not reached a consen-
sus, but seem to be quite far from
agreement. For instance, whatpercentage of AUM fees shouldbe properly allocated to servicesnot connectedwithmanaging cli-entportfolios?Theanswerswerescattered across the graph, from0% to near 100%, and the most
commonanswer-50%-looks,inretrospect,likearandomguess.Ifadvisoryfirms aregoing tomovefrom an AUM revenue model to
something else, they are going to
needtobemorepreciseabouttheappropriate fees for different as-
pectsoftheirservice. We saw this lack of con-
sensus in the AUM fees that ad-
visors (anddifferentcategoriesofadvisors) were charging at eachportfoliolevel.Thereisclearlynoindustry-standard pricing at thisstageoftheprofession’sevolution.Willthereeverbe? And we failed to finda consensus most particularlywhen we took a deeper dive into
the numbers, and produced somegraphswhichthesurveyrespond-
entsprobablydidn’texpecttosee:
anactualdollarfigurefortheassetmanagement and financial plan-
ningservicesforclientswhohaveportfolios of different sizes. The
broad spectrum of fees almosttaxed the ability for the page tohold the width of the graph. Sure-
ly, the profession will eventually
achieve a better approximationof profession-standard pricing atsome point in the future. This is
an evolutionary development to
watch. Finally, I doubt that many
readers were surprised at the
graphsthatshowedjusthowmuchmore wealthier clients were pay-
ing for planning and portfolio
management services than theirless-wealthycohorts.Butthatin-
formation would likely be a great
surprise to theclients themselves.Isaclientwitha$2.5millionport-folio really receiving four or fivetimesasmuchvaluefromtheplan-
ing engagement as the person with
$500,000?Atthismoment,thisisarhetoricalquestion.Buteventu-
ally, the profession is going to have
toconfrontthisissuehead-on,andit will be interesting to see the out-
come. There’s more, of course,andeveryreaderwillhavenoticeddifferent interesting issues, trends,
anomalies and quirks in the data.
The author has commented mul-tiple times on the most surprising
things he found: the long thin tails
at the right of the graphs where a
smallbutsignificantnumberofad-
visors are deviating dramaticallyfrom their peers on the high side.
Whatdidyoulearn?Ihopethe survey helped you better under-
standyourownfeestructure-andperhaps also some of the most in-
teresting trends in this ever-inter-
esting, still evolving, profession.