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8 Gmto: Kr' Xgoiimg bs `bstoi cs XG mg bgiox'
9 Kr' Zmgog bs `bstoi cs Z mg bgiox' Kr' Cuhnbgh`mss bs `bstoi cs C mg bgiox'
? Kr' Kosorocu bs `bstoi cs K mg bgiox' Ks' Ru bs`bstoi cs R mg bgiox'
< Kr' Xcgdor bs `bstoi cs XC mg bgiox'
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3 Xcgtc Kcrbc Hc`blmrgbc
1 Yuosicy Kcy 34 166?
8 >:86 c'k'
9
? .Yno lm``mwbgd prmhooibgds woro no`i bg
< mpog hmurt mutsbio tno prosogho cgi nocrbgd ml tno
4 jury:"
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2 YNO HM_QY: Dmmi kmrgbgd'
36 HM_GXO@ CY HM_GXO@ YCA@O: .Bg ugbsmg"
33 Dmmi kmrgbgd Rmur Nmgmr'
31 YNO HM_QY: Rostoricy B kcio c ru`bgd mg tno
38 bkpochnkogt tostbkmgy' B dcvo tno mppmrtugbty tm
39 tno iologso tm prmvbio spohblbh bkpochnkogt
3? hbtctbmgs tnct tnoy woro bgtorostoi bg bkpochnbgd
3< wbtn tnbs tostbkmgy cgi Bvo rovbowoi tnct' B
34 rohobvoi bt tnbs kmrgbgd' Bk gmt dmbgd tm hncgdo
3> ky ru`bgd' Yno bkpochnkogt tnct bs roquostoi bstm
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32 hm``ctorc` bssuos cgi sm tno ru`bgd wb`` stcgi'
16 @ots arbgd bg tno jury'
13 KQ' XCGDOQ: Rmur Nmgmr aolmro ymu im wo
11 nci cseoi tm just ciiross tno Hmurt mg shnoiu`bgd ++
18 YNO HM_QY: Ros'
19 KQ' XCGDOQ: ++ shnoiu`bgd kcttors'
1? Hmu`i wo im tnct up ct tno aoghn= Hmu`i wo
1< im tnct up ct tno aoghn=
14 YNO HM_QY: C`` rbdnt' Cpprmchn tno aoghn
1> sm tno jury imosgt nocr' 36?22
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3 KQ' KOXOQOC_: Rmur Nmgmr kcy B jmbg= B
1 tnbge bt wb`` no`p'
8 YNO HM_QY: C`` rbdnt'
9 .Ibshussbmg no`i mll tno rohmri ct sbioacr'"
? YNO HM_QY: C`` rbdnt' Bk dmbgd tm ncvo tno
< jury hmko bg' Bk smrry lmr tno hmglorogho tnoro'
4 Aut wnct wo woro ca`o tm chnbovo bg tnct hmglorogho
> ct aoghn noro wcs tno shnoiu`o lmr tno Hmurt lmrtno
2 goxt low icys sm B cpprohbcto tno lcht tnct ymunci
36 tm sbt noro cgi wcbt wbtnmut nocrbgd tnct aut b
ts
33 dmbgd tm no`p ko bg tno `mgd rug'
31 To`` arbgd bg tno jury'
38
39 .Yno lm``mwbgd prmhooibgds woro no`i bg
3? mpog hmurt bg tno prosogho cgi nocrbgd ml tno
3< jury:"
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3> YNO HM_QY: Dmmi kmrgbgd'
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32 YNO J_QR: .Bg ugbsmg" Dmmi kmrgbgd'
16 YNO HM_QY: Hmugso`= Rmu kcy prmhooi'
13 KQ' XCGDOQ: Ros' To nci Kr' \bvcghm mg tno
11 stcgi'
18 YNO HM_QY: Hmko lmrwcri p`ocso' Tnog ymu
19 dot tm tno wbtgoss stcgi ymu kcy ao soctoi' Rmuro
1? stb`` ugior mctn'
1< --
14 --
1> -- 36
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3 CGDO@ \B\CGHM
1 Ncvbgd aoog provbmus`y swmrg rosukoi tno
8 stcgi cgi tostblboi lurtnor cs lm``mws:
9
? IBQOHY O^CKBGCYBMG .Hmgtbguoi"
< AR KQ' XCGDOQ:
4 S' Mecy' Kr' \bvcghm nmw ymu imbgd=
> C' Dmmi' Nmw cro ymu=
2 S' Lbgo tncge ymu'
36 C`` rbdnt' B just ncvo c `btt`o abt kmro
33 lmr ymu noro'
31 Rostoricy ymu tm`i us tnct ymu nci ++ B
38 ao`bovo ymu scbi ymu nci stcrtoi tm tc`e wbtn
39 Icvo``bg5 bs tnct rbdnt=
3? C' Ros'
3< S' Cgi nmw ibi ++ nmw ibi tnbs c`` stcrt=
34 To`` `ot ko cse ymu tnbs lbrst'
3> Cs cg okp`myoo ct Govor`cgi woro ymu
32 suppmsoi tm ncvo porsmgc` hmgvorsctbmgs wbtn tno
16 duosts mr gmt=
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13 C' Gm'
11 S' Mecy' Nmw ibi bt ncppog tnct ymu stcrtoi tm
18 ncvo porsmgc` hmgvorsctbmgs wbtn Icvo``bg=
19 C' Xno wmu`i cse ko quostbmgs cgi B wmu`i
1? cgswor cs ++ cs c wmreor tnoro B wmu`i cgswor nor'
1< S' Mecy' Rmu wmu`i cgswor nor' Ibi ymu
14 ovogtuc``y iovo`mp c lrbogisnbp=
1> C' Ros' 36
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3 S' Cgi hcg ymu ++ `ot ko wbtnircw tnct'
1 Mtnor tncg iurbgd tno wmre nmurs ibi ymu
8 ncvo mhhcsbmg tm soo nor=
9 C' Ros'
? S' Cgi wnoro wmu`i ymu dogorc``y koot wbtn nor=
< C' Cltor wmre ct tno pcrebgd croc'
4 S' Cgi wnoro bs tno pcrebgd croc=
> C' Mg tno ++ wnoro tno lbro iopcrtkogt bs ct'
2 S' Mecy' Im ymu kocg tno cikbgbstrctbmg
36 aub`ibgd=
33 C' Ros'
31 S' _p mg tno nb`` mutsbio tno kcgbhuroi `cwg
38 croc5 bs tnct rbdnt=
39 C' Ros'
3? S' C`` rbdnt' Cgi camut wnct tbko ml gbdnt
3< wmu`i ymu dogorc``y soo nor=
34 C' Cltor wmre ct crmugi kcyao 36:66 36:86'
3> S' Mecy' Cgi camut nmw `mgd wmu`i ymu spogi
32 tmdotnor bg tno ovogbgd=
16 C' Vrmaca`y nc`l cg nmur'
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13 S' Mecy' Cgi iurbgd ++ tnbs ++ ct smko pmbgt
11 Icvo``bg cgi nor lckb`y `olt Govor`cgi lmr tno `cst
18 tbko' Im ymu rokokaor tnct=
19 C' Gm B imgt rokokaor tnct icy aut sno tm`i
1? ko camut bt'
1< S' Mecy' Xm tnoros smko pmbgt ct tno ogi
14 wnoro snos ct Govor`cgi cgi tnog snos gmt tnor
o
1> cgykmro= 36
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3 C' Rocn'
1 S' Cgi ymu worogt tnoro tnct oxcht gbdnt wnog
8 sno `olt5 bs tnct rbdnt=
9 C' Ros'
? S' C`` rbdnt' Xm camut nmw kcgy ovogbgds ibi
< ymu spogi mg c porsmgc` acsbs wbtn Icvo``bg=
4 C' Crmugi lbvo mr sbx'
> S' Mecy' Cgi wcs tnbs h`msor tm tno aodbggbgd
2 ml nor vbsbts tnoro mr tno ogi=
36 C' Ymwcris tno ogi'
33 S' Mecy' Cgi tnog mgo icy sno just wcsgt
31 tnoro cgykmro5 bs tnct bt=
38 C' Rocn'
39 S' C`` rbdnt' Gmw iurbgd tno hmurso ml ymur
3? vbsbtbgd wbtn nor ibi ymu bg lcht ncvo porsmgc`
3< hmgvorsctbmgs wbtn nor=
34 C' Ros'
3> S' C`` rbdnt' Ynog cltor sno `olt ++ wo scw
32 tnct pnmgo rohmri yostoricy cgi Bk gmt dmbgd tm
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16 put tnok up cdcbg aut ymu scw ymur to`opnmgo gukaor
13 up tnoro' Im ymu rohc`` bl sno to`opnmgoi ymu cltor
11 sno `olt=
18 C' B tnbge bt wcs tno icy sno `olt `beo tnct
19 gbdnt'
1? S' Mecy' Cgi ibi sno eoop hc``bgd ymu cltor
1< tnct lmr c wnb`o=
14 C' Ros'
1> S' Cgi tnog ct smko pmbgt ymu stmppoi dottbgd 36
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3 to`opnmgo hc``s lrmk nor5 bs tnct rbdnt=
1 C' Ros'
8 S' Mecy' Ibi ymu hmgtbguo tm ncvo porsmgc`
9 hmgvorsctbmgs iurbgd tnmso pnmgo hc``s mvor tno goxt
? twm wooes mr wnctovor bt wcs=
< C' Ros'
4 S' C`` rbdnt' Gmw iurbgd tnct ogtbro tbko
> tnct ymu nci porsmgc` hmgvorsctbmgs wbtn Icvo``bg
2 ibi sno ovor hmkp`cbg tm ymu tnct Kbhnco` Jchesmg
36 nci troctoi nor mr nor lckb`y bg c aci wcy=
33 C' Gm'
31 S' Ibi sno ovor h`cbk tm ymu tnct sno wcs aobgd
38 lc`so`y bkprbsmgoi=
39 KQ' ZMGOG: Bk dmbgd tm majoht cs `ocibgd'
3? YNO HM_QY: Mvorru`oi'
3< Rmu kcy cgswor'
34 KQ' XCGDOQ: Yncge ymu'
3> YNO TBYGOXX: Gm'
32 S' AR KQ' XCGDOQ: Ibi sno ovor hmkp`cbg tm ymu
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16 tnct cgy ml nor lckb`y kokaors nci aoog kbstroctoi
13 ay cgyamiy ct Govor`cgi=
11 C' Gm'
18 KQ' XCGDOQ: C`` rbdnt' B ncvo gm lurtnor
19 quostbmgs'
1?
1< HQMXX+O^CKBGCYBMG
14 AR KQ' ZMGOG:
1> S' Kr' \bvcghm dmmi kmrgbgd' 36
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3 C' Dmmi kmrgbgd'
1 S' Ibi ymu scy yostoricy tnct ymu usoi tm wmre
8 tnoro lrmk sovog mh`mhe bg tno kmrgbgd ugtb` 36p'k'=
9 C' Ros'
? S' Ovory icy=
< C' Ros'
4 S' Kmgicy tnrmudn Lrbicy=
> C' Ros'
2 S' Cgi smkotbkos mg Xcturicy smkotbkos mg
36 Xugicy=
33 C' Ros'
31 S' Toro ymu dottbgd mvortbko iurbgd tnct tbko=
38 C' Ros'
39 S' Ibi ymu soo tno imhukogtcry @bvbgd wbtn
3? Kbhnco` Jchesmg=
3< C' Ros'
34 S' Tnog ibi ymu soo bt=
3> C' Ywm gbdnts cltor bt cbroi'
32 S' Ywm gbdnts cltor bt cbroi=
16 C' Ros'
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13 S' Nmw ibi ymu ncppog tm soo bt twm gbdnts
11 cltor bt cbroi=
18 C' Mg ky icy mll' B tnbge tnct wcs tno scko
19 gbdnt kcyao' Bk gmt suro aut B soog bt c``'
1? S' Rmu tnmudnt bt wcs p`cybgd twm gbdnts `ctor=
1< C' Rocn'
14 S' Mecy' Ibi ymu rohmdgbzo cgy ml tno pomp`o
1> wnm woro bg tnct imhukogtcry= 36
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3 C' Ros'
1 KQ' XCGDOQ: Majohtbmg' Yncts aoymgi tno
8 shmpo Rmur Nmgmr'
9 YNO HM_QY: Xustcbgoi'
? S' AR KQ' ZMGOG: C`` rbdnt' Ibi ymu egmw wnm
< Kcrtbg Acsnbr wcs=
4 C' Ros'
> S' Ibi ymu soo nbk wnog no wcs mg tno prmporty
2 ct Govor`cgi=
36 C' Ros'
33 S' C`` rbdnt' Tnog wcs bt tnct tno Crvbzm
31 lckb`y wcs tnoro ct Govor`cgi= Aolmro mr cltor
38 Kcrtbg Acsnbr wcs tnoro=
39 C' Aolmro'
3? S' Xm tno Crvbzms hcko cltor Kcrtbg Acsnbr wcs
3< tnoro=
34 KQ' XCGDOQ: Majohtbmg' Kbsstctos tno ++
3> wo`` bts hmglusbgd' Bts ckabdumus `ots putbt
32 tnct wcy'
16 YNO HM_QY: B`` c``mw tno quostbmg'
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13 Im ymu ugiorstcgi tno quostbmg=
11 YNO TBYGOXX: Gm'
18 KQ' ZMGOG: C`` rbdnt' @ot ko cse bt cdcbg'
19 S' Im ymu rokokaor soobgd tno Crvbzm lckb`y
1? prosogt ct Govor`cgi wnb`o Kcrtbg Acsnbr wcs tnoro=
1< C' Gm'
14 S' Rmu scw ++ ymu govor scw tno Crvbzms ct cgy
1> tbko wnb`o Kcrtbg Acsnbr wcs tnoro= 36
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3 C' Ros ++ yos B rokokaor' Ros'
1 S' Bk smrry=
8 C' Ros'
9 S' Mg nmw kcgy mhhcsbmgs wcs Kcrtbg Acsnbr ct
? Govor`cgi=
< C' Kcyao Bvo soog nbk lbvo tbkos'
4 S' Lbvo tbkos' Mvor wnct porbmi ml tbko=
> C' Mvor tno ++ c kmgtn kcyao'
2 S' Mvor mgo kmgtn=
36 C' Ros'
33 S' Mecy' Cgi iurbgd tnct tbko mg nmw kcgy ml
31 tnmso mhhcsbmgs tnct no wcs tnoro wcs tno Crvbzm
38 lckb`y tnoro cs wo``=
39 C' B imgt rokokaor'
3? S' Tcs bt kmro tncg mgho=
3< C' B tnbge sm'
34 S' Tnog Xtcr wcs p`cybgd crmugi wbtn tno egblo
3> bg tno ebthnog ibi ymu ropmrt tnct tm cgyamiy=
32 C' Gm B ibigt'
16 S' Ibi ymu hc`` tno pm`bho=
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3 C' Cltorwcris yos'
1 S' No wcs c 31+yocr+m`i ebi ct tno tbko rbdnt=
8 C' Ros'
9 S' Cgi cltorwcris ymu scbi tnct wcsgt tno
? rbdnt tnbgd tm im=
< C' Ros'
4 S' Tnct im ymu kocg cltorwcris= Qbdnt cltor
> bt ncppogoi mr c icy `ctor twm icys `ctor5 wnct=
2 C' Qbdnt cltor bt ncppogoi'
36 S' Qbdnt cltor bt ncppogoi=
33 C' Rocn `beo twm nmurs `ctor cltor B soog nbk
31 cdcbg'
38 S' C`` rbdnt' Xm ymu tm`i nbk tm put tno egblo
39 imwg cgi no ibi=
3? C' Ros'
3< S' Rmu govor lo`t tnroctogoi ay tnct=
34 C' Gm gmt roc``y'
3> S' Cgi ymu govor lo`t shcroi ml nbk=
32 C' Gm'
16 S' No wcs c 31+yocr+m`i ebi p`cybgd crmugi
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13 rbdnt=
11 C' Ros'
18 S' Ibi ymu ropmrt tnct bghbiogt tm Kbhnco`
19 Jchesmg=
1? C' Gm'
1< S' Ibi ymu ropmrt tno bghbiogt tm Kbhnco`
14 Jchesmg ml Dcvbg usbgd cg mashogo wmri=
1> C' Gm' 36
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3 S' Ibi ymu ropmrt bt tm cgyamiy=
1 C' B tm`i ky hm+wmreors camut bt'
8 S' Ibi ymu ropmrt tm Kbhnco` Jchesmg tnct tno
9 ebis woro irbgebgd c`hmnm`=
? C' Gm'
< S' Tnog ymu woro bgbtbc``y bgtorvbowoi ay tno
4 snorblls mllbho ymu tm`i tnok tnct ymu ibigt e
gmw
> wnm tno Crvbzm lckb`y wcs rbdnt=
2 C' Ros ct tnct tbko B ibigt rohmdgbzo tnobr
36 `cst gcko' B ibigt egmw tnok ay tno Crvbzms'
33 S' Ynoy dcvo ymu c`` tno gckos ibigt tnoy
31 Xtcr Icvo``bg Dcvbg=
38 C' Just tno lbrst gckos yos'
39 S' Cgi ymu tm`i tnok ymu ibigt rohmdgbzo cgy
3? ml tnok rbdnt=
3< C' Just tno `cst gcko B ibigt rohmdgbzo tno
34 `cst gckos'
3> S' Cgi no nci tm snmw ymu pnmtmdrcpns' Cgi
32 tnog cltor no snmwoi ymu pnmtmdrcpns ymu scbi Mn
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16 yocn B rokokaor tnok rbdnt=
13 C' Ros'
11 S' Rmu ibigt to`` tnok cgytnbgd camut c egblo
18 bghbiogt ibi ymu=
19 C' Gm'
1? S' Rmu ibigt to`` tnok cgytnbgd camut tnok
1< irbgebgd c`hmnm` ibi ymu=
14 C' Gm'
1> S' Rmu ibigt to`` tnok cgytnbgd camut Dcvbg 36 ropmrt tnbgds ibroht`y tm Kbhnco` Jchesmg=
2 C' Gm'
36 S' Xm bl smkotnbgd wogt wrmgd wbtn duosts mr
33 wbtn cgytnbgd ct tno rcghn wnm wmu`i ymu mribgcrb`y
31 dm tm bl bt wcs sorbmus ogmudn=
38 C' Yno suporvbsmr ml tno rcghn'
39 S' C`` rbdnt' Cgi bl ymu lo`t tnct ymu hmu`i
3? ncgi`o tno sbtuctbmg ibi ymu loo` c gooi tm ropmrt
3< ovorytnbgd tnct ncppogoi=
34 KQ' ZMGOG: Majohtbmg5 `ocibgd'
3> YNO HM_QY: Mvorru`oi'
32 YNO TBYGOXX: Ros'
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16 S' AR KQ' XCGDOQ: Mecy' Gmw ymu scbi ++ tnbs
13 egblo bghbiogt' Kr' Zmgog cseoi ymu bl ymu woro
11 shcroi' Ibi ymu tnbge bt wcs luggy=
18 C' Gmt roc``y'
19 S' Cgi wcs bt c sncrp egblo mr c iu`` egblo=
1? C' Bt wcs sncrp'
1< S' Nci cgy mtnor duosts ovor imgo cgytnbgd `beo
14 tnct tm ymu bg tno tbko ymu wmreoi tnoro=
1> KQ' ZMGOG: Majohtbmg5 brro`ovcgt' 36
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3 YNO HM_QY: Mvorru`oi'
1 YNO TBYGOXX: Gm'
8 S' AR KQ' XCGDOQ: Gmw Kr' Zmgog cseoi ymu
9 camut tc`ebgd tm tno pm`bho' Im ymu rokokaor
? tc`ebgd tm tno pm`bho=
< C' Ros'
4 S' Ibi ymu try tm ao hmmporctbvo=
> C' Ros'
2 S' Toro ymu gorvmus=
36 C' Ros'
33 S' Gmw ibi tnoy ovor cse ymu cgytnbgd camut c
31 egblo=
38 C' Gm'
39 S' Ibi tnoy ovor cse ymu cgytnbgd camut Dcvbg
3? mr Xtcr swocrbgd=
3< C' Gm'
34 S' Ibi tnoy ovor cse ymu camut Dcvbg mr Xtcr
3> csebgd ymu lmr c`hmnm`=
32 C' Gm'
16 KQ' XCGDOQ: C`` rbdnt' Mecy' Yncge ymu'
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13 Gm lurtnor quostbmgs'
11
18 QOHQMXX+O^CKBGCYBMG
19 AR KQ' ZMGOG:
1? S' Tnm bs tno suporvbsmr ymu ropmrtoi tnoso
1< bghbiogts tm=
14 C' Josus Xc`cs'
1> KQ' XCGDOQ: Majohtbmg kbss ++ mn Bk 36
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3 smrry' Bts obtnor aoymgi tno shmpo ml ibroht ++B
1 kocg ml roibroht mr kbsstctos tno ovbiogho'
8 YNO HM_QY: To`` tno quostbmg wcs vcduo' To
9 ncvo cg cgswor aut B`` strbeo tno cgswor cgi `ot
? ymu rocse tno quostbmg'
< S' AR KQ' ZMGOG: Ibi ymu ropmrt cgy ml tnoso
4 ovogts tm cgy suporvbsmr=
> C' Ros'
2 S' C`` rbdnt' Tnm wcs tno suporvbsmr=
36 C' Lbrst bt wcs Quiy @mzcgm ky ++
33 S' Quiy wnm=
31 C' Quiy @mzcgm'
38 S' Xcy tno `cst gcko cdcbg s`mw`y'
39 C' @mzcgm'
3? S' @mzcgm= Mecy' Tnct ibi ymu to`` Quiy=
3< C' Camut wnct Xtcr ibi'
34 S' Tnbhn ++
3> C' Tnbhn bs wnog no stuhe tno egblo tm ky gohe'
32 S' Tnct o`so= Tnct o`so ibi ymu to`` Quiy=
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16 C' Camut tno c`hmnm` bghbiogt'
13 S' Tnct o`so ibi ymu to`` Quiy=
11 C' Cgi camut tno swocrbgd'
18 S' Tnog wcs tnct=
19 C' Qbdnt cltor bt ncppogoi B wmu`i to`` nbk'
1? S' Tnct=
1< C' Qbdnt cltor tno bghbiogts wmu`i ncppog B
14 wmu`i to`` nbk rbdnt cltor'
1> S' Tnct kmgtn wcs tnct= 36
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3 C' B imgt rokokaor tno kmgtn'
1 S' Tnct yocr wcs bt=
8 C' 1668'
9 S' Xmkotbko bg 1668=
? C' Ros'
< S' Ibi ymu to`` smkoamiy o`so camut tnoso
4 ovogts=
> C' Gm'
2 S' Ibigt ymu just scy ymu tm`i Josus Xc`cs=
36 C' Mn yos Josus Xc`cs'
33 S' Tnct ibi ymu to`` Josus Xc`cs=
31 C' Yno scko tnbgd'
38 S' Ochn ml tnoso=
39 C' Ros'
3? KQ' ZMGOG: Gm lurtnor quostbmgs'
3< KQ' XCGDOQ: Gm lurtnor quostbmgs Rmur
34 Nmgmr'
3> YNO HM_QY: C`` rbdnt' Yncge ymu' Rmu kcy
32 stop imwg'
16 KQ' KOXOQOC_: Rmur Nmgmr tno iologso wb``
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13 hc`` Ks' Brogo ++ oxhuso ko Ks' Brogo Votors'
11 YNO HM_QY: Tnog ymu dot tm tno wbtgoss
18 stcgi Bi `beo ymu tm rokcbg stcgibgd'
19 Lcho tno h`ore noro cgi rcbso ymur rbdnt
1? ncgi'
1< --
14 --
1> -- 36
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3 BQOGO @C\OQG VOYOQX
1 Ncvbgd aoog swmrg tostblboi cs lm``mws:
8
9 YNO TBYGOXX: B im'
? YNO H@OQE: V`ocso ao soctoi' Xtcto cgi
< spo`` ymur gcko lmr tno rohmri'
4 YNO TBYGOXX: Ky gcko bs Brogo @cvorg
> Votors' B+r+o+g+o5 @+c+v+o+r+g5 V+o+t+o+r+s'
2 YNO H@OQE: Yncge ymu'
36
33 IBQOHY O^CKBGCYBMG
31 AR KQ' KOXOQOC_:
38 S' Dmmi kmrgbgd Kbss Votors'
39 C' Dmmi kmrgbgd'
3? S' Kbss Votors ky gcko bs Ymk Kosorocu cgi B
3< spoce lmr Kr' Jchesmg'
34 Kbss Votors nmw cro ymu okp`myoi=
3> C' Bk okp`myoi cs c smhbc` wmreor wbtn tno
32 Iopcrtkogt ml Hnb`irog , Lckb`y Xorvbhos'
16 S' Cgi bs tnct bg @ms Cgdo`os=
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13 C' Ros bt bs'
11 S' Cgi nmw `mgd ncvo ymu wmreoi lmr tno
18 Iopcrtkogt ml Hnb`irog , Lckb`y Xorvbhos bg @ms
19 Cgdo`os=
1? C' 86 yocrs'
1< S' Mecy' Cgi wnct im ymu im wbtn tno
14 iopcrtkogt=
1> ACB@BLL HMQYOZ: Tmu`i ymu kmvo h`msor' 36
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3 YNO TBYGOXX: B bgvostbdcto hnb`i causo
1 rolorrc`s lmr god`ohtoi causoi cgi cacgimgoi
8 hnb`irog cgi oxp`mbtoi hnb`irog' B wmre bg c
9 sogsbtbvo hcso ugbt wnbhn ioc`s wbtn
? nbdn+prmlb`o+typo hcsos' Bvo aoog wmrebgd bg tnoro
< lmr kcyao sovog yocrs'
4 B c`sm ncvo gukormus oxporboghos bg
> okmtbmgc` causo soxuc` causo pnysbhc` causo ymu
2 gcko bt cltor 86 yocrs'
36 S' AR KQ' KOXOQOC_: Cgi tm ncvo c pmsbtbmg
33 `beo tnbs wnct ebgi ml trcbgbgd im ymu ncvo tm
dm
31 tnrmudn=
38 C' To`` B ncvo oxtogsbvo trcbgbgd' Bvo
39 drciuctoi lrmk Hc`+Xtcto @ms Cgdo`os yocrs cdm'Bt
3? wcs 1? yocrs cdm' B c`sm dot oxtogsbvo trcbgbgd
3< lrmk mur iopcrtkogt bg ibllorogt crocs mg c kmgtn`y
34 acsbs mr wnctovor'
3> S' Cgi bs tnoro c pcrtbhu`cr mllbho tnct ymu
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40/500
32 mporcto mut ml bg @ms Cgdo`os=
16 C' Ros bt bs'
13 S' Cgi wnoro bs tnct=
11 C' Bts mg Tb`snbro cgi \orkmgt bg tnct croc'
18 S' Cro tnoro mtnor mllbhos tnct IHLX ncs bg @ms
19 Cgdo`os=
1? C' Ros tnoro bs'
1< S' Cgi bs tnoro cgy pcrtbhu`cr rocsmg wny
14 ymuro `mhctoi ct tnct mllbho=
1> C' To`` tncts tno rodbmg tnct woro bg' 36
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41/500
3 Toro bg ibllorogt rodbmgs cgi tno pcrtbhu`cr ugbt
1 tnct Bk bg bs nmusoi bg tnct pcrtbhu`cr aub`ibgd
'
8 S' Gmw ncvo ymu tceog hmursos porbmibhc``y
9 iurbgd ymur 86 yocrs=
? C' Ros B ncvo'
< S' Tnct hmursos ncvo ymu tceog=
4 C' Mn wmw'
> S' Bl ymu hmu`i just sukkcrbzo tnok'
2 C' Bgtorvbowbgd oxp`mbtoi hnb`irog'
36 Bgtorvbowbgd soxuc``y causoi hnb`irog'
33 Bgtorvbowbgd ++ mn wmw' @ot ko soo' Bvo c`sm
31 imgo hnb`is p`cy' Rmu egmw bts sm kcgy B
38 hcgt ++ rbdnt mll tno ncgi B just hcgt'
39 S' Cs pcrt ml ymur jma cro ymu cseoi tm
3? porbmibhc``y tceo hmursos `beo tnbs=
3< C' Ros' Kc`troctkogt ml hnb`irog' Xm
34 gukormus B just hcgt rokokaor c`` ml tnok'
3> S' Cs pcrt ml ymur rospmgsbab`btbos im ymu dot
32 porbmibh upictos mg tno `ctost bglmrkctbmg camut
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16 ymur lbo`i=
13 C' Ros B im' Ros'
11 S' Nmw bs tnct imgo=
18 C' Toro cseoi bl wo gooi trcbgbgd bg hortcbg
19 tnbgds' Ynoy dbvo us cg mppmrtugbty tm pcrtbhbpcto
1? bg tno trcbgbgds'
1< S' Im ymu dot `ohturos lrmk vcrbmus rosocrhnors
14 camut bglmrkctbmg tnoyvo iovo`mpoi bg ymur lbo`i=
1> C' Ros B im' 36
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3 S' Bs hmgtbgubgd oiuhctbmg c pcrt ml ymur jma=
1 C' Ros bt bs'
8 S' Cgi tm aohmko c smhbc` wmreor `beo ymu cro
9 im ymu ncvo tm matcbg c hortblbhcto mr cgy typo ml
? ibp`mkc=
< C' Kmst ml tno smhbc` wmreors ncvo kcstors bg
4 smhbc` wmre yos'
> Cgi B hcko up lrmk tno amttmk up cs ++ wbtn
2 c AXT bg smhbc` wmre cgi wmreoi kyso`l up'
36 S' Cgi imos c smhbc` wmreor `beo ymu ncvo c
33 pcrtbhu`cr hortblbhcto mr c `bhogso mr cgytnbgdml
31 tnct smrt tnct ymu matcbg wbtn ++
38 C' B imgt ncvo c `bhogso gm'
39 S' Ncvo ymur rospmgsbab`btbos ct tnct cdoghy
3? protty kuhn aoog tno scko sbgho ymu stcrtoi=
3< C' To`` tnoyvo hncgdoi aohcuso B wmre
34 ibllorogt pmsbtbmgs'
3> S' Just sukkcrbzo ymur ibllorogt pmsbtbmgs bl
32 ymu wmu`i'
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16 C' B wmreoi ct tno Kch@crog Hnb`irogs Hogtor
13 wnbhn bs usoi lmr tokpmrcry sno`tor lmr hnb`irog' B
11 wmreoi tnoro lmr mvor 31 yocrs wmrebgd wbtn ebis
18 lmr vcrbmus prma`oks' Kmst ml tno ebis just
19 ibroht`y hcko lrmk tnobr nmkos cgi woro p`choi bg
1? tno sno`tor hcro tnoro' B wcs wnct ymu hc`` tno
1< tock `ocior ml tno ugbt wnoro tno hnb`irog woro
14 nmusoi sm B ioc` wbtn c vcrboty ml vcrbmus hnb`irog
1> wbtn ibllorogt prma`oks' 36
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45/500
3 S' Gmw bg tno ugbt ymuro bg hurrogt`y woro
1 ymu bg tnct ugbt bg 1668=
8 C' Ros B wcs'
9 S' Mecy' Tnog ibi ymu aodbg wmrebgd bg tnbs
? pcrtbhu`cr ugbt=
< C' @ot ko soo' Camut kcyao tnroo mr lmur yocrs
4 cdm' B nci ku`tbp`o ugbts' B wcs ioc`bgd wbtn
> tnroo ibllorogt ugbts ct tno tbko' B ioc` wbtn
2 hnb`irog wnm ncvo spohbc` goois noc`tn bssuos'
36 C`sm wcs ioc`bgd wbtn kbgmr pcrogts prodgcgt
33 kmtnors cgi B wcs ioc`bgd wbtn c sogsbtbvo hcso
31 ugbt' Xm bt wcs tnroo ibllorogt ugbts acsbhc``y'
38 S' Cgi imos ymur hurrogt ugbt wnbhn wcs tno
39 ugbt ymu woro bg bg 1668 ncvo c pcrtbhu`cr purpmso=
3? C' Ros' To ioc` wbtn tnmso hcsos tnct cro
3< nbdn+prmlb`o hcsos hcsos tnct ymu soo mg tno gows
34 tno koibc hcsos' To c`sm ioc` wbtn c `mt ml pm`bho
3> mllbhors snorblls ml smko smrt'
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46/500
32 S' Cgi imos tno lcht tnct c hcso kbdnt ao
16 nbdn+prmlb`o clloht tno gcturo ml ymur wmre=
13 C' Ros bt imos'
11 S' Nmw imos bt=
18 C' Nbdn+`ovo` iodroo ml hmglbiogtbc`bty tno
19 wcy wo ncgi`o tno hcso' B tnbge tnbs hcso wcs
1? stcrtoi camut 36 mr 33 yocrs cdm aohcuso ml smko
1< tnbgds tnct woro ncppogbgd cgi sm c spohbc` ugbt
14 ncgi`os tnmso hcsos'
1> S' Cgi bl smkomgo bs nbdn+prmlb`o `ots scy 36
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47/500
3 tnoyro c ho`oarbty tncts wo`` egmwg bs bt ymur
1 ugiorstcgibgd tnct tnoy kcy ao kmro ml c tcrdot l
mr
8 hmkp`cbgts=
9 C' To`` gmt kmro ml c tcrdot' B tnbge tnct
? wnog tnmso hcsos im hmko tnrmudn tno hnb`i causo
< nmt`bgo tnct tnmso hcsos cro put bg c hortcbg ug
bt
4 sm tnct tnoy wmu`i gmt ncvo cgy `ocecdo dmbgd mgmr
> cgytnbgd tnct wmu`i dot mut'
2 S' Cro ymu lckb`bcr wbtn smkomgo gckoi D`mrbc
36 C``roi=
33 C' Ros B ck'
31 S' Cgi wnm bs sno tm ymur egmw`oido=
38 C' Xnos cg cttmrgoy'
39 S' Cgi bs sno egmwg tm cppocr mg Y'\' c `mt=
3? C' Ros sno bs'
3< S' Bs sno egmwg tm dogorcto c `mt ml
34 hmgtrmvorsy=
3> C' Ros sno bs'
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48/500
32 S' Cgi ncvo ymu ovor rohobvoi ropmrts lrmk nor
16 tnct ymu egmw ml=
13 C' Yno oxbstbgd ropmrt tnct wo dmt tno lbrst
11 ropmrt lrmk ++ B tnbge bt wcs Loarucry tno 39tn
18 1661 ++ 8 woro tc`ebgd camut mg tno rolorrc`
19 nor gcko bs kogtbmgoi mg tno rolorrc`'
1? S' Mecy' Cgi sno kcio c ropmrt camut Kbhnco`
1< Jchesmg tm ymur cdoghy rbdnt=
14 C' Bt wcs kogtbmgoi bg tno ropmrt' Ynoro bs
1> cgmtnor ropmrt B tnbge tnct sno ibi kceo c ropmrt' 36
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49/500
3 S' Mecy'
1 C' Aut tno ropmrt B wogt mut mg 1+39 nor gcko
8 wcs just kogtbmgoi bg tno ropmrt'
9 S' Mecy' @ots tc`e camut wnct ymu ibi mg
? Loarucry 39tn 1668 mecy=
< C' Mecy'
4 S' @ot ko aodbg ay csebgd bl ymu egmw smkomgo
> mr ncvo ovor kot smkomgo gckoi Jcgot Crvbzm=
2 C' Ros B ncvo'
36 S' Cgi nmw ibi ymu lbrst koot Jcgot Crvbzm=
33 C' Ym dbvo ymu just c `btt`o achedrmugi mg nmw
31 bt ncppogs ymu dot c hnb`i causo rolorrc` lrmk
tno
38 nmt`bgo cgi tnog bts lrckoi mut tm hortcbg ugbts'
39 Cgi tno ugbt tnct tnbs pcrtbhu`cr rolorrc`
3? wcs lrckoi mut tm wcs mur ugbt sogsbtbvo hcso ugbt
3< iuo tm tno gcturo ml tno hcso'
34 Lrmk tnoro ymu dm mut cgi kceo ++ ymu dm
3> mut cgi cttokpt tm kceo hmgtcht wbtn tnct porsmg'
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50/500
32 Xm tncts wnct B wcs imbgd B rohobvoi bt mg
16 1+39 cgi ct tnct pmbgt B roci tno rolorrc` cgitno
13 c``odctbmgs'
11 Lrmk tnoro B iohbioi tm hc`` tno @ms
18 Cgdo`os Vm`bho Iopcrtkogt aohcuso ml tno gcturoml
19 tno hcso aohcuso tnoy scbi bt wcs soxuc` causo'
1? Cgi cgytbko tnoros c soxuc` causo tnct hmu`i ao c
1< hrbkbgc` sm wo ncvo tm ncvo tno pm`bho bgvm`voi
14 aohcuso tnoy wmu`i ao tno mgo tnct wmu`i kceo tno
1> iohbsbmg wnotnor mr gmt tm iotcbg tno hnb`irog'36
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51/500
3 S' @ot ko just dm stop ay stop bl B hcg'
1 C' _n+nun'
8 S' Rmu ncvo rohobvoi c nmt`bgo rolorrc` rbdnt=
9 C' Ros' Ros'
? S' Cgi tno nmt`bgo bs c gukaor tncts pua`bh=
< C' Bts ++ yos bts pua`bh egmw`oido'
4 S' Cgyamiy hcg hc`` bt cgi kceo cg chhusctbmg
> bl tnoy wcgt hmrroht=
2 C' Ros' Ros'
36 S' Ynoy imgt ncvo tm rovoc` tnobr gcko rbdnt=
33 C' Gm tnoy im gmt' Gm'
31 S' Ynoy hcg sbkp`y hc`` up cgy tbko ml icy cgi
38 scy Rocn B ao`bovo smkoamiy kbdnt ao imbgd
39 smkotnbgd bkprmpor rbdnt=
3? C' Ros'
3< S' Yno hmkp`cbgts hcg ao `odbtbkcto mgos mr
34 tnoy hcg ao tmtc``y lrbvm`mus rbdnt=
3> C' Oxcht`y'
32 S' Aut bts c gukaor tncts cvcb`ca`o tm tno
16 pua`bh sm tnoy hcg kceo ropmrts bl tnoy hnmmso
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52/500
13 rbdnt=
11 C' Qbdnt'
18 S' Cgi vory mltog mg tnct nmt`bgo pomp`o
19 rokcbg cgmgykmus rbdnt=
1? C' Ros tnoy im'
1< S' Xm ymu govor ncvo c hncgho tm bgvostbdcto
14 tno achedrmugi ml tno porsmg wnm kcio tno hmkp`cbgt
1> rbdnt= 36
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53/500
3 KQ' XGOIIMG: Bk dmbgd tm majoht cs
1 `ocibgd'
8 YNO HM_QY: Xustcbgoi'
9 S' AR KQ' KOXOQOC_: Bl cg cgmgykmus hmkp`cbgt
? hmkos bg wnct bs tno lbrst tnbgd tnct ymu cs c
< smhbc` wmreor bg ymur pcrtbhu`cr ugbt wb`` im wbtn
4 tnct pcrtbhu`cr hmkp`cbgt=
> C' Bk gmt tno mgo tnct rohobvos tno rolorrc`
2 sm tnbs bs cgmgykmus' Bt hmkos tnrmudn c to`opnmgo'
36 S' Qbdnt'
33 C' Ynoros c nmt`bgo gukaor' Rmu hc`` cgi scy
31 B wcgt tm ao cgmgykmus' Xm ct tnct pmbgt wo imgt
38 im cgytnbgd'
39 Tnog wo im dot pomp`o wnm wcgt tm gmt rokcbg
3? cgmgykmus wo hcg bg lcht hc`` tnok cs c
3< hm``ctorc` hmgtcht tm dot bglmrkctbmg yocn'
34 S' Xm acsbhc``y dogorc``y spocebgd ymu
3> `ocrgoi tnoro wcs c rolorrc`=
32 C' Ros'
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54/500
16 S' Rmu imgt gohosscrb`y egmw bl bts c dmmi
13 rolorrc` mr c aci rolorrc` rbdnt=
11 C' Gm wo imgt'
18 S' Cgi ymu just lm``mw up mg tno rolorrc`=
19 C' Oxcht`y'
1? S' Yncts pcrt ml ymur jma rbdnt=
1< C' Ros bt bs'
14 S' @ots dot tm Jcgot Crvbzm'
1> Rmu `ocrgoi tnct smkoamiy nci kcio c 36
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55/500
3 rolorrc` quostbmgbgd Jcgot Crvbzm cgi Kbhnco`
1 Jchesmg rbdnt=
8 C' Ros'
9 S' Cgi ymu `ocrgoi tnct smkoamiy nci kcio c
? rolorrc` aohcuso tnoy scw c imhukogtcry mg
< to`ovbsbmg rbdnt=
4 C' Ros'
> S' Yno imhukogtcry wcs gmw egmwg cs tno Acsnbr
2 imhukogtcry rbdnt=
36 C' Ros'
33 S' Cgi smkoamiy kcio c rolorrc` scybgd tnct
31 tnoy nci soog tno imhukogtcry cgi tnoy wcgtoi ym
u tm
38 `mme bgtm Jcgots chtbmgs cgi Kbhnco` Jchesmgs
39 chtbmgs rbdnt=
3? C' Qbdnt'
3< S' Mecy' Cgi ymu tnog woro cssbdgoi tm tnct
34 pcrtbhu`cr hcso hmrroht=
3> C' Ros'
32 S' Tcs cgymgo o`so cssbdgoi tm bt wbtn ymu=
16 C' Gm'
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56/500
13 S' Mecy' Cgi ymur lbrst chtbmg wcs tm stuiy
11 wnct bglmrkctbmg ymu nci cgi tnog hc`` tno pm`bho
18 rbdnt=
19 C' B roci tno rolorrc` ml tno c``odctbmgs' Yno
1? c``odctbmgs woro lmr dogorc` god`oht'
1< S' Ay Jcgot Crvbzm=
14 C' Jcgot Crvbzm yos'
1> S' Xm wnct ibi ymu im cltor ymu scw tnbs 36
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3 rolorrc` tnct suddostoi tnoro kbdnt ao smko dogorc`
1 god`oht ay Jcgot Crvbzm=
8 C' B nci tm dm mut cgi bgvostbdcto tno
9 rolorrc`'
? S' Mecy' Cgi nmw ibi ymu im tnct=
< C' B wogt tm tno nmko ml tno ciiross tnct wcs
4 `bstoi mg tno rolorrc` cgi lrmk tnoro ++ lbrst B
> hc``oi tno @CVI cgi B tc`eoi tm tno hnb`i causo
2 ugbt cgi tnoy sogt twm mllbhors mut tnoro wbtn ko'
36 S' Mecy' Cgi wnoro ibi ymu dm wbtn tno twm
33 mllbhors=
31 C' To wogt tm tno ciiross tnct wcs `bstoi mg
38 tno rolorrc`'
39 S' Mecy' Cgi im ymu rokokaor cpprmxbkcto`y
3? wnoro tnct=
3< C' 93? ++ B tnbge bts 9?6 bts `beo mll ml
34 Tb`snbro' Bt wcsgt tnct lcr lrmk ky mllbho'
3> S' Cgi wcs tnct Xt' Cgirows=
32 C' Xt' Cgirows tncts bt'
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16 S' Gmw ibi ymu dot tnct ciiross lrmk tno
13 porsmg wnm kcio tno rolorrc`=
11 C' B dmt tno ciiross lrmk tno rolorrc` tnct
18 hcko tm ky iose yos'
19 S' Cgi ibi ymu `ocrg tnct tnct wcs tno ciiross
1? ml c Kcjmr Jcy Jchesmg=
1< C' B mg`y `ocrgoi tnct cltor B dmt tnoro'
14 Aohcuso B wcs `mmebgd mg tno rmstor tm soo wnotnor
1> mr gmt nor gcko wcs mg tnoro' Xm wnog B `mmeoi mg 36
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59/500
3 tno rmstor B ibigt soo ++ aut B ibi soo Jchesmg
1 sm B hmggohtoi ++ B scbi To`` kcyao porncps tn
bs
8 bs Jchesmg cgi snos ++ ymu egmw'
9 Aut B tc`eoi tm tno suporbgtogiogt ml tno
? cpcrtkogt cgi no scbi tnoro wcs gm Clrbhcg+Ckorbhcgs
< mr Koxbhcg+Ckorbhcgs `bvbgd bg tnct pcrtbhu`cr
4 hmkp`ox'
> S' Xm ibi ymu iotorkbgo tnct tnoro wcs gm
2 hmggohtbmg aotwoog Jcy Jchesmg cgi ++
36 C' Gm B ibigt' B ibi gmt egmw'
33 S' Mecy' Tnct ibi ymu im goxt=
31 C' Cltor tnct B tc`eoi tm tno pm`bho mllbhors
38 cgi tnoy tm`i ko tnct tnoy ibigt ncvo cgy
39 jurbsibhtbmg bg @ms Cgdo`os aohcuso tno bghbiogt
3? ncppogoi bg Xcgtc Acracrc cgi tnct wcs tno ogiml
3< tnct'
34 Cgi sm lrmk tnoro B tnbge tno goxt ++ bt
3> wcs `beo c Lrbicy ++ cgi B wogt tm wmre mg c
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32 Yuosicy cgi B trboi tm hmgtcht tno shnmm` tncttno
16 hnb`irog woro dmbgd tm' Cgi B wogt mvor tm tno
13 shnmm` cgi tc`eoi tm c hmugso`mr tnoro cgi bt wcs
11 just hmbghbiogtc` tnct sno ncppogoi tm hc`` Jcgot
18 ncppogoi tm hc`` tno shnmm` wnb`o B wcs sbttbgd
19 tnoro' Cgi B tm`i nor tnct B gooioi tm hmko cgi
1? tc`e tm nor cgi bgtorvbow nor cgi B nci cg
1< c``odctbmg tnct B gooi tm tc`e tm nor camut'
14 S' Cgi ibi ymu im tnct=
1> C' Ros B ibi' 36
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3 S' Cgi just tm h`crbly wnoro wcs tnct
1 bgtorvbow=
8 C' Yno bgtorvbow tmme p`cho mg Xt' Cgirows'
9 S' Mecy' Xm tnct wcs Kcjmr Jcy Jchesmgs
? nmko ++
< C' Ros bt wcs'
4 S' ++ rbdnt=
> Gmw wnm ibi ymu dm tnoro wbtn lmr tno
2 chtuc` bgtorvbow=
36 C' B roquostoi tnct ky suporvbsmr dm wbtn ko
33 cgi cgmtnor hm+wmreor'
31 S' Cgi im ymu egmw wnct tnobr gckos woro=
38 C' Ros' Jchebo Amwog cgi Ecrog Tc`eor'
39 S' Cgi wnct bs ymur typbhc` prmhoiuro wnog ymu
3? bgtorvbow smkomgo camut c rolorrc` `beo tnbs=
3< C' Tnct B im bs B roci tno rolorrc` tno
34 c``odctbmgs lbrst tm tnok' Cgi tnog B stcrt tmcse
3> quostbmgs rodcribgd tno rolorrc`'
32 S' Gmw ibi ymu ao`bovo tnct Jcgot Crvbzm `bvoi
16 ct tnct ciiross=
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13 C' B egow sno ibigt `bvo tnoro' Aohcuso sno
11 tm`i ko'
18 S' Cgi wny wcs tno bgtorvbow aobgd hmgiuhtoi
19 tnoro=
1? C' Aohcuso sno ibi gmt ++ B ibigt ncvo cg
1< ciiross lmr nor cgi tnbs bs cg ciiross wcs dbvog B
14 tnbge aohcuso tno ebis woro dmbgd tm tno shnmm`bg
1> tnct croc cgi tnbs bs tno ciiross tnct tnoy woro 36
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3 usbgd'
1 S' Ibi ymu egmw wnotnor mr gmt Jcgot Crvbzm cgi
8 tno hnb`irog `bvoi ct tnct ciiross lrmk tbko tm
9 tbko=
? C' B tnbge tnoy ++ yos sno ibi to`` ko tnct
< tnoy `bvoi tnoro porbmibhc``y yocn'
4 S' Cgi tm ymur egmw`oido ibi sno hnmmso tnct
> ciiross tm ao bgtorvbowoi ct=
2 C' Ros sno ibi'
36 S' Mecy' Cgi ibi ymu wmgior wny sno wcgtoi
33 tnct ciiross mr wcs bt just mecy lmr nor tm pbhe
31 wnctovor `mhctbmg sno wcgtoi=
38 C' Gm sno tm`i ko tnct sno wcs nbibgd mut lrmk
39 tno koibc aohcuso ml tno Acsnbr bgtorvbow cgi tno
3? ebis nci aoog dottbgd bgtm c `mt ml squcaa`os cgi
3< tnbgds wbtn pomp`o mg tno stroots' Cgi sno `bvoibg
34 Ocst @ms Cgdo`os cgi sno `bvoi bg c skc``
3> cpcrtkogt stuibm cpcrtkogt cgi sno pcbi mg`y )466
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32 c kmgtn lmr rogt' Xno wcs mg wo`lcro cgi tnct sno
16 tnmudnt tnbs wcs tno aost p`cho lmr nor tm ao ct
13 tnbs tbko'
11 S' Mecy' Gmw sno tm`i ymu sno wcs mg wo`lcro=
18 C' Ros sno ibi'
19 S' Cgi wcs bt ymur ma`bdctbmg tm hnohe mut
1? wnotnor mr gmt sno wcs prmpor`y mg wo`lcro=
1< C' To`` wo ncvo c hmkputor systok tnct imos
14 rol`oht bl c porsmgs dottbgd wnct tnoy hc``
1> Hc`+Tmres mr gmt' To egmw tnct bglmrkctbmg' 36
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3 S' Mecy' Aut ymu ibigt egmw wnotnor mr gmt
1 sno nci tm`i tno trutn wnog sno cpp`boi lmr wo`lcro=
8 C' Gm B ibigt ++
9 KQ' XGOIIMG: Majohtbmg Rmur Nmgmr' @che
? ml lmugictbmg5 nocrscy'
< YNO HM_QY: Xustcbgoi'
4 S' AR KQ' KOXOQOC_: Rmur jma ct ymur cdoghy
> wcs gmt tm iotorkbgo wnotnor sno wcs prmpor`y
2 rohobvbgd cgy pua`bh cssbstcgho rbdnt=
36 C' Gm aohcuso B imgt ioc` wbtn tnct cspoht ml
33 bt' B ioc` wbtn causoi hnb`irog'
31 S' Qbdnt'
38 C' Ros'
39 S' Xno tm`i ymu wnct nor rogt wcs ct tno
3? cpcrtkogt bg Ocst @ms Cgdo`os rbdnt=
3< C' Xno tm`i ko nmw kuhn kmgoy sno wcs rohobvbgd
34 lrmk wo`lcro'
3> S' Mecy' Cgi ibi sno to`` ymu sno nci smko
32 lbgcghbc` prma`oks=
16 C' Ros sno ibi'
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13 S' Mecy' Tnct ibi sno to`` ymu tnoy woro=
11 C' To`` sno scbi sbgho tno ++ nor sopcrctbmg
18 cgi pcst imkostbh vbm`ogho bssuos wbtn nor nusacgi
19 snos `bvbgd mg c koibuk bghmko' Xno mg`y ncs
1? `beo )466' Xno wcs vory okpnctbh camut bt' Cgi
1< tnct tnoy woro s`oopbgd mg tno l`mmr' Xno acro`y
14 nci ogmudn kmgoy tm kceo bt'
1> S' Mecy' Cgi cdcbg tnbs bs ++ sno to``s ymu 36
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3 tnbs mg Loarucry 39tn 1668=
1 C' Gm bt wcs Loarucry 16tn'
8 S' Loarucry 16tn 1668=
9 C' B wogt tm tno nmko mg Loarucry 39tn' B
? ibigt dot bg tmuhn wbtn nor ugtb` tno 16tn'
< S' Xm Loarucry 16tn 1668 sno bs ct Xt'
4 Cgirows V`cho wbtn nor hnb`irog rbdnt=
> C' Ros sno bs'
2 S' Im ymu rohc`` cgymgo o`so aobgd tnoro wbtn
36 nor=
33 C' Tnog B wc`eoi bg tnoro wcs sovorc` pomp`o
31 tnct woro tnoro wnbhn wcs ebgi ml ugusuc`' Aut
bt
38 wcs twm ++ twm duys c ymugd `ciy cgi nor smg cgi
39 ml hmurso tno hnb`irog cgi nor' Cgi tno tnroo
3? pomp`o tnct woro wbtn ko ky smhbc` ++ ky suporvbsmr
3< cgi c`sm mgo ml ky hm+wmreors' Xm tnoro wcs qubto c
34 low pomp`o tnoro'
3> S' Im ymu egmw cpprmxbkcto`y wnct tbko ml icy
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32 tnbs wcs=
16 C' @beo 31:66'
13 S' Ywo`vo gmmg=
11 C' Rocn crmugi tnct' B hcgt rokokaor wnct
18 oxcht tbko bt wcs' Rocn'
19 S' Cgi ymu scw cgmtnor wmkcg wbtn nor hnb`i
1? rbdnt=
1< C' Ros'
14 S' Ibi ymu `ocrg tnct nor gcko wcs Cjc Vrymr=
1> C' To`` B ibi' B kocg ache tm kokmry B 36
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3 tnbge bt wcs Hnrbs Yuheors dbr`lrbogi cgi nbs
1 hnb`i' Cgi smkomgo lrmk Kbhnco` Jchesmgs ++ B
8 imgt egmw bl no wcs c sohurbty ducri mr wnct'
9 S' Cgi cgymgo o`so ymu rokokaor soobgd aosbios
? tno Crvbzm lckb`y=
< C' Ynoro wcs cgmtnor duy tnoro' Hcgt rokokaor
4 nbs gcko'
> S' Mecy' Gmw ibi ymu ncvo tm wc`e up tno
2 stcbrs ++
36 C' Ros wo ibi'
33 S' ++ tm dot bgtm tnbs cpcrtkogt=
31 C' Ros'
38 S' Cgi tno tnroo ml ymu crrbvoi tmdotnor=
39 C' Ros wo ibi'
3? S' C`` ml ymu lrmk tno smhbc` cdoghy rbdnt=
3< C' Hnb`irogs Xorvbhos yos'
34 S' Toro tno mtnor twm pomp`o wbtn ymu pcrt ml
3> ymur ugbt cs wo``=
32 C' Ros tnoy woro'
16 S' Gmw wmu`i bt ao gmrkc` tm arbgd tnroo ml
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13 ymu lmr cg bgtorvbow=
11 C' Gmt gmrkc``y'
18 S' Tny ibi ymu im bt tnbs tbko=
19 C' Tny ibi B im bt= B just tnmudnt B gooioi
1? smko suppmrt'
1< S' Mecy'
14 C' Ros'
1> S' Rmu egmheoi mg tno immr rbdnt= 36
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3 C' Ros B ibi'
1 S' Rmu woro c``mwoi bg=
8 C' Ros B wcs'
9 S' Cgi wnct bs tno goxt tnbgd ymu scw=
? C' Bkkoibcto`y wnog B wc`eoi bgtm tno rmmk B
< gmtbhoi c`` tno pomp`o sbttbgd tnoro' Cgi Kbss
4 Crvbzm ++ ct tno tbko B tnmudnt nor gcko wcs Jcgo
t
> \ogturc' Ck B hmrroht=
2 S' _n+nun'
36 C' Xno hcko mvor tm ko cgi scys Mn p`ocso
33 sbt imwg' Xbt imwg' B wcgt ymu tm hmko mvor tm tno
31 vbiom ++ tno Y'\' cgi wcthn c vbiom' Cgi B
38 tnmudnt bt wcs ebgi ml mii aut B ibi bt'
39 Cgi wo c`` sct imwg' Cgi bt wcs c vbiom ml
3? Kbhnco` Jchesmg cgi Dcvbg wc`ebgd crmugi Govor`cgi
3< `mmebgd ct tno swcgs cgi just acsbhc``y rbibgd mg
34 tno trcbg mr smkotnbgd `beo tnct ml tnct gcturo'
3> S' Xm sno kocgbgd Jcgot=
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32 C' Ros'
16 S' Tcgtoi tm stcrt mll tno kootbgd ay ymu
13 soobgd c vbiom=
11 KQ' XGOIIMG: Bk dmbgd tm majoht tm tnct
18 quostbmg wbtn tno oibtmrbc` hmkkogt' Kmvo tm
19 strbeo'
1? YNO HM_QY: Xustcbgoi' Xtrbheog'
1< S' AR KQ' KOXOQOC_: Tcs tnoro cgy ibshussbmg
14 tnct ymu nci wbtn Jcgot aolmro sno snmwoi ymu tnbs
1> vbiom ml Kbhnco` Jchesmg cgi Dcvbg ct Govor`cgi=36
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3 C' Gmt roc``y'
1 S' Mecy'
8 C' Ynct wcs tno lbrst tnbgd sno ibi
9 bkkoibcto`y upmg ky crrbvc`'
? S' Ibi sno snmw tno vbiom tm tno tnroo ml ymu=
< C' C`` ml us tnct woro tnoro yocn'
4 S' Cgi ibi ymu tc`e tm nor iurbgd tno vbiom mr
> ibi ovoryamiy just wcthn bt=
2 C' Gm wo just wcthnoi bt'
36 S' Mecy' Tnct ncppogoi cltor tno vbiom wcs
33 hmkp`otoi=
31 C' Mecy' Cltor tno vbiom wcs hmkp`otoi ky
38 suporvbsmr roquostoi tnct c`` tno pomp`o tnct woro
39 gmt bgvm`voi bg tno rolorrc` tnct tnoy nci tm `ocvo
3? tno prokbsos'
3< S' Cgi ++
34 C' Cgi sno wcs ++
3> S' ++ wnct ncppogoi=
32 C' Xno wcs c `btt`o ++ sno majohtoi tm bt
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16 aohcuso sno lo`t tnct tnmso pomp`o woro tnoro tm
13 suppmrt nor tnrmudn tnbs wnm`o mrioc` cgi tnoyworo
11 nor lrbogis'
18 Cgi wo oxp`cbgoi tm tnok tno `ovo` ml
19 hmglbiogtbc`bty cgi tnct tnoy woro gmt tm ao tnoro
1? sm wo cseoi tnok tm `ocvo'
1< S' Cgi ymu cseoi Jcgot tm ncvo tnok `ocvo=
14 C' To cseoi tnok tm `ocvo'
1> S' Cgi wnog ymu scy To cseoi tnok tm 36
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3 `ocvo ++
1 C' Yno suporvbsmr ibi'
8 S' Cgi wnog ymu scy ymu wcgtoi tnok tm `ocvo
9 wnm cro ymu rolorrbgd tm=
? C' Bk rolorrbgd tm tno twm duys lrmk Kbhnco`
< Jchesmgs hckp mr wnctovor cgi Cjc wcs nor gcko
4 cgi tno hnb`i'
> Tnm o`so wcs tnoro=
2 Cgi tnct wcs bt'
36 S' Cgi ibi tnoy `ocvo wnog ymu kcio tnct
33 roquost=
31 C' Ros tnoy ibi'
38 S' Ibi tnoy `ocvo tno prokbsos=
39 C' Ros'
3? S' Mecy' Xm tnoso pomp`o `olt cgi wnm woro
3< ymu tnog wbtn bg tno cpcrtkogt=
34 C' Bt wcs Xtcr Dcvbg Icvo``bg ++ Icvo``bg B
3> tnbge wcs nor gcko ++ cgi Ecrog Tc`eor wnbhn bstno
32 suporvbsmr Jchebo Amwog wnbhn bs cgmtnor smhbc`
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16 wmreor cgi kyso`l'
13 S' Xm ct tnct pmbgt just tno tnroo smhbc`
11 wmreors bgh`uibgd ymu cgi tno Crvbzm lckb`y=
18 C' Ros'
19 S' Gm mgo o`so wcs tnoro ct tnct pmbgt=
1? C' Gm mgo o`so'
1< S' Mecy' Cgi wnct ibi ymu im cltor tnct=
14 C' B prmhooioi tm tc`e tm tno kmtnor cgi B roci
1> tno c``odctbmgs tm nor' 36
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3 S' Mecy'
1 C' Mecy'
8 S' Cgi woro tno hnb`irog prosogt wnog ymu ibi
9 tnct=
? C' Ros tnoy woro'
< S' Tcs tnct stcgicri prmhoiuro=
4 C' Rocn' B kcio tno ++ B just roci tno
> c``odctbmgs' Tnct B ibi wcs B tmme Dcvbg bgtm
2 cgmtnor rmmk cgi tnog B wcs ++ B nci ++ tno mtnor
36 wmreor wcs dmbgd tm bgtorvbow Xtcr cgi tno mtnormgo
33 wcs dmbgd tm bgtorvbow Icvo``bg'
31 Aut wnog B stcrtoi tm tc`e tm Dcvbg tno
38 kmtnor hcko bgtm tno rmmk cgi egmheoi mg tno immr
39 cgi sno cseoi ko wnotnor bt wcs mecy bl sno wmu`i ao
3? prosogt wnbhn bl c pcrogt wcgts tm ao prosogt
3< iurbgd tno bgtorvbow tnoy cro c``mwoi tm ao
34 prosogt'
3> S' Mecy' Ibi ymu bgtorvbow Dcvbg=
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32 C' Ros B ibi'
16 S' Ibi ymu bgtorvbow Xtcr=
13 C' Ros B ibi'
11 S' Ibi ymu bgtorvbow Icvo``bg=
18 C' Ros B ibi'
19 S' Cgi ibi ymu bgtorvbow Jcgot=
1? C' Ros'
1< S' Cpprmxbkcto`y nmw `mgd ibi bt tceo tm im c``
14 tnoso bgtorvbows bl ymu rokokaor=
1> C' Kcyao twm cgi c nc`l nmurs' 36
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3 S' Mecy'
1 C' Ynroo nmurs'
8 S' Cgi tm ymur egmw`oido wcs cgytnbgd
9 rohmrioi=
? C' Ros B rohmrioi bt ++ gm gmt rohmrioi ++ im
< ymu kocg `beo tcpo+rohmri smkotnbgd=
4 S' Rocn'
> C' Gm woro gmt c``mwoi tm tcpo+rohmri'
2 S' Mecy' Im ymu just tceo gmtos=
36 C' B ncvo tm tceo gmtos'
33 S' Cgi typbhc``y cltor ymu hmgiuht cg
31 bgtorvbow `beo tnbs wnct im ymu im wbtn ymur gm
tos=
38 C' B eoop tnok'
39 S' Im ymu kceo c ropmrt=
3? C' To`` B ncvo tm wrbto c ropmrt yos B im'
3< S' Cgi ibi ymu wrbto c ropmrt bg tnbs hcso=
34 C' Ros B ibi'
3> S' Mecy' @ots stcrt wbtn tno bgtorvbow ymu
32 ibi wbtn Jcgot' Ncvo ymu `mmeoi ct ymur ropmrt
16 rohogt`y=
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13 C' Ros'
11 S' Tnct ibi ymu cse Jcgot=
18 C' B cseoi nor ++ wnog B roci tno c``odctbmgs
19 tm nor B wcgtoi tm nocr nor hmkkogts' Cgi sno
1? scbi To`` casm`uto`y tnct bs gmt truo aohcuso B
1< wcs bgtorvbowbgd nor lmr dogorc` god`oht'
14 S' Tnct bs dogorc` god`oht=
1> C' Tnog ymu cro god`ohtbgd ymur hnb`irog' @beo 36
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3 bgcioqucto suporvbsbmg kcyao ymuro gmt tcebgd tnok
1 tm cgy koibhc` mr iogtc` cppmbgtkogts' Rmuro
8 gmt ++ tnoy cro gmt dmbgd tm shnmm`' Ynoyro bg
9 pmmr ogvbrmgkogtc` hmgibtbmgs' Ynbgds ml tnct
? gcturo'
< S' Tnog ymu roci Jcgot tno c``odctbmg ml
4 dogorc` god`oht ibi ymu to`` nor wnoro tno
> c``odctbmg hcko lrmk=
2 C' Gm B ibi gmt'
36 S' Mecy' Rmu just scbi tnoro nci aoog cg
33 c``odctbmg=
31 C' Ros'
38 S' Ibi ymu to`` nor cgytnbgd tm suddost tno
39 c``odctbmg nci aoog ovor prmvog=
3? C' Gm tncts wny Bk tnoro' Ky rm`o bs tm
3< bgvostbdcto bt'
34 S' Rmur rm`o bs tm bgvostbdcto bt=
3> C' Bgvostbdcto un+nun'
32 S' Ibi sno rospmgi tm ymur ioshrbptbmg ml tno
16 c``odctbmg=
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13 C' Ros sno ibi'
11 S' Tnct ibi sno to`` ymu=
18 C' Xno scbi tnct Kbhnco`s aoog `beo c lctnor
19 tm nor hnb`irog5 tnct sno wcs vory upsot camut bt5
1? tnct no ncs aoog vory dmmi tm nor hnb`irog' Nos
1< kmro `beo c ++ kmro tncg tnobr lctnor nci ovor a
oog'
14 Xno scbi sno wcs tmtc``y cppc``oi ay c`` tno
1> godctbvo cttogtbmg tnct nor hnb`irog nci aoog 36
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3 rohobvbgd sbgho tno Acsnbr imhukogt tcpo un+nun'
1 Cgi sno wcs upsot ++ oxhuso ko' Xno wcs
8 upsot aohcuso sno wcs scybgd tnct sno imosgt ncvo
9 cgy hmgsogt tm ncvo nor hnb`irog ao mg Y'\' cgisno
? wcs upsot wbtn Kr' Acsnbr'
< S' Mecy' Ibi sno ovor scy cgytnbgd godctbvo
4 camut Kbhnco` Jchesmg=
> C' Gm sno ibigt'
2 S' Ibi sno scy cgytnbgd camut nor ox+nusacgi=
36 C' Ros sno ibi'
33 S' Tnct ibi sno scy=
31 C' Xno tc`eoi camut tno pcst imkostbh vbm`ogho
38 bssuos cgi tno cgdor cgi tno lrustrctbmg tnct sno
39 nci aoog oxporboghbgd' Cgi tnoy nci c ++ wnct bs
3? bt= ++ c rostrcbgbgd mrior cdcbgst nbk ugtb` 1669
3< cgi tnct no nci aoog pnysbhc``y causbgd nor
34 hnb`irog cgi tno drcgipcrogts nci iosortoi tno
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3> hnb`irog prchtbhc``y'
32 S' Mecy'
16 C' Ros'
13 S' Ibi sno ovor scy cgytnbgd tnct suddostoi
11 Kbhnco` Jchesmg nci causoi nor hnb`irog=
18 C' Gm sno ibi gmt'
19 S' Mecy' Xno mg`y prcbsoi nbk rbdnt=
1? C' Ros'
1< S' Gmw wnct mtnor quostbmgs ibi ymu cse Ks'
14 Crvbzm iurbgd ymur bgtorvbow=
1> C' B cseoi Tnct usuc``y ncppogs wnog ymu dm 36
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3 tm Govor`cgi= Cgi sno tm`i ko tnct wnog sno dmos
1 tm Govor`cgi tnct tno ebis cro usuc``y bg tno
8 abd ++ bg tno nmuso cgi smkotbkos snos bg tno ++
9 tnbs bs cgmtnor nmuso tnct snos bg' Cgi snos
? usuc``y vory cwcro ml wnct c`wcys dmos mg tnoro
< aohcuso snos vory vbdb`cgt sno ncs c vbdb`cgt o
yo'
4 Cgi tno ebis p`cy vbiom dckos cgi wcthn Y'\'
> Cgi B cseoi nor nci tno ebis ovor aoog bg
2 Kbhnco` Jchesmgs rmmk mg nbs aoi' Xno scbi Ros
36 tnoy ncvo sno scbi aohcuso tno rmmk ++ tno
33 nmuso bs roc``y abd' Yno rmmk bs roc``y abd cgi
31 tno ebis c`` p`cy bg tno rmmk' Aut snos cwcroml
38 wnct dmos mg tnoro'
39 S' Mecy' Cgi ibi sno hmkp`cbg camut cgytnbgd
3? tnct wogt mg bg Kr' Jchesmgs rmmk=
3< C' Gm sno ibi gmt'
34 S' Ibi sno ovor scy cgytnbgd aci wogt mg bg Kr'
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3> Jchesmgs rmmk=
32 C' Gm sno ibi gmt'
16 S' Cgi ibi sno to`` ymu nmw sno suporvbsos nor
13 ebis ct Govor`cgi=
11 C' Xno scbi tnct snos c`wcys cwcro ml wnct tno
18 hnb`irog woro imbgd tnct snos usuc``y tnoro'
19 Xnos usuc``y wc`ebgd up c`` gbdnt `mgd' Yncts
1? wnct sno scbi'
1< S' Cgi woro ymu hmghorgoi camut cgytnbgd sno
14 tm`i ymu camut wnct ncppogs ct Govor`cgi=
1> C' Gmt roc``y' 36
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3 S' Mecy' Ibi ymu cse nor cgy quostbmgs camut
1 nor ebis shnmm`bgd=
8 C' Ros B ibi'
9 S' Cgi wnct ibi ymu cse bg tnct rodcri=
? C' B cseoi Tnct shnmm` im tnoy cttogi=
< Ynoy cttogi Jmng Aurrmudns Jugbmr Nbdn
4 Xhnmm` Xtcg ++ B kocg Xtcr cgi Dcvbg' B tnbge
> Xtcr wcs bg tno ++ Dcvbg wcs bg tno lmurtn
2 porhogtb`o ml tno stcgicri tosts'
36 Xno c`sm tm`i ko tnct Dcvbg ++ Xtcr wcs
33 ncvbgd c low prma`oks wbtn c hyst mg nbs arcbg mr
31 smkotnbgd `beo tnct ml tnct gcturo' Xno scbi tnoy
38 woro imbgd wo`` bg shnmm`'
39 Yno icudntor wcs imbgd wo`` bg shnmm`' Xno
3? wogt ++ sno cttogioi shnmm` mvor bg Ocst @ms
3< Cgdo`os' Xno scbi sno wcs imbgd dmmi bg shnmm`'
34 Cgi ++ acsbhc``y'
3> S' Tmu`i bt ao chhurcto tm scy tnct Jcgot
32 Crvbzm iogboi tno c``odctbmgs ml dogorc` god`oht=
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16 C' Mn yocn'
13 B wcs dmbgd tm dot tm tnct'
11 Xno iogboi c`` c``odctbmgs ml dogorc`
18 god`oht' Cgi mgo ml tno tnbgds wo scbi tno ebis
19 cro bg shnmm` tnoy woro goct irossoi h`ocg tnoy
1? woro bg c prmpor ogvbrmgkogt sm tncts wnct Bk
1< bgvostbdctbgd tno dogorc` god`oht ml nor'
14 S' Cgy mtnor quostbmgs tnct ymu cseoi nor tnct
1> ymu ncvogt biogtblboi= 36
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3 C' B cseoi nor ++ B cseoi nor camut tno
1 ro`ctbmgsnbp aotwoog sno cgi Kbhnco` Jchesmg cgi
8 tncts wnog sno wogt mg tm scy tnct no wcs `beo c
9 lctnor tm nor hnb`irog cgi tnct sno tnbges tnctno
? wcs rospmgsba`o lmr no`pbgd Dcvbg tm survbvo nbs
< hcghor lmr nbs hcghor tm ao bg rokbssbmg'
4 S' Cgytnbgd o`so ymu rohc`` csebgd nor bg tnct
> bgtorvbow=
2 C' B cseoi ++ B cseoi acsbhc``y tno scko
36 quostbmgs tm ochn mgo ml tnok'
33 S' Mecy' @ots kmvo ++
31 C' Tnog sno ++ B ibi ++ oxhuso ko'
38 B ibi cse nor wcs sno cwcro tnct Kbhnco` ++
39 tnct tno ebis ovor s`opt bg tno aoi wbtn Kbhnco`
3? Jchesmg' Cgi sno tm`i ko gm tnct tnct govor
3< ncppogoi'
34 S' Mecy' Cgi ibi sno to`` ymu wnct sno imos ct
3> Govor`cgi wnog sno stcys tnoro=
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32 C' Xno scys wcthn kmvbos cgi ao bg tno pcre cgi
16 smkotbkos snos bg tno nmuso' Cgi snos usuc``y++
13 usuc``y wc`ebgd up c`` gbdnt `mgd sno scys ebgi ml
11 ausy'
18 S' Mecy' Ibi ymu ncvo cgy suspbhbmgs camut
19 cgytnbgd sno tm`i ymu=
1? C' To`` acsoi mg wnct sno wcs scybgd wnct sno
1< wcs ropmrtbgd B ibigt ncvo cgy suspbhbmgs camut
14 bt gm aohcuso tnbs bs cg bgtorvbow tnct wo imbg
1> `oss tncg twm mr tnroo nmurs' Bts gmt `beo c 36
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3 pm`bho bgvostbdctbmg'
1 S' Ibi sno sook lcbr`y hmglbiogt camut wnct sno
8 wcs scybgd=
9 C' Vrotty hmglbiogt' \ory cgxbmus vory
? `mquchbmus'
< S' Ibi sno sook `beo sno wcgtoi tm tc`e tm ymu=
4 C' Ros vory kuhn sm' \ory tmuhny+loo`y ebgi
> ml wcrk ebgi ml porsmg'
2 S' Tnog ymu scy tmuhny+loo`y wnct im ymu
36 kocg=
33 C' Ymuhny nuddy ymu egmw mvor`y `beo c ++
31 mvor`y cllohtbmgcto'
38 S' Ibi sno sook vory spmgtcgomus bg nor cgswors
39 tm ymur quostbmgs=
3? KQ' XGOIIMG: Majoht' Hc``s lmr c
3< hmgh`usbmg' Gm lmugictbmg'
34 YNO HM_QY: Mvorru`oi'
3> Rmu kcy cgswor'
32 YNO TBYGOXX: Tnct wcs tno quostbmg=
16 S' AR KQ' KOXOQOC_: Ibi sno sook vory
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13 spmgtcgomus bg nor cgswor=
11 C' Ros snos wbtty'
18 S' Xnos wbtty=
19 Mecy' Nmw `mgd im ymu tnbge ymur bgtorvbow
1? ml Jcgot `cstoi=
1< C' Vrmaca`y camut 86 96 kbgutos'
14 S' Mecy' Cgi woro nor hnb`irog prosogt iurbgd
1> tno ogtbro bgtorvbow= 36
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3 C' Ynoy woro tnoro'
1 S' C`` tnroo=
8 C' C`` tnroo'
9 S' Mecy' Cgi wnog ymu bgtorvbowoi Jcgot wmu`i
? tno hnb`irog smrt ml spoce mut mr woro tnoy sb`ogt
< cgi ymu just quostbmgoi nor bl ymu rokokaor=
4 C' Ynoy wmu`i scy ++ wnog sno stcrtoi tm spoce
> camut Kbhnco` tnoy ebgi ml bgtorjohtoi smko tnbgds
2 yos'
36 S' Yno hnb`irog ibi=
33 C' Ros tnoy ibi'
31 S' Ibi tnoy c`` sook tm ao bg cdrookogt=
38 C' Ros tnoy ibi'
39 S' Camut wnct sno scbi tm ymu=
3? C' Ros tnoy ibi'
3< S' Gmw wnog ymu ncvo cg bgvostbdctbvo
34 bgtorvbow `beo tnbs cgi ymu to`` smkomgo wnct tno
3> c``odctbmg bs bg tnbs hcso ml hmurso bt wcs dogorc`
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32 god`oht im ymu to`` tno porsmg ymuro tc`ebgd tm
16 wnct tno pmssba`o hmgsoquoghos hmu`i ao ml ymur
13 bgvostbdctbmg=
11 C' Gm B imgt' B kocg ++ bl ++ bl B lo`t tnct
18 B nci tm ++ tnct smkotnbgd wcs scbi iurbgd tnct
19 bgtorvbow B wmu`i prmaca`y stmp tno bgtorvbow'Cgi
1? tncts wny B scbi aohcuso bt wcs c soxuc` causo
1< bssuo noro tncts wnog B wmu`i hc`` tno pm`bho
14 iopcrtkogt'
1> S' Mecy' Gmw ++ 36
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3 C' Xnos cwcro ml tnct' Xno wcs cwcro ml tnct
1 tnct tnmso ebis hmu`i pmssba`y ao iotcbgoi bl B
8 tnmudnt bg cgy wcy tnct tnmso ebis woro aobgd
9 god`ohtoi'
? S' Xm ymu tm`i nor tnct ymu nci hc``oi tno
< pm`bho iopcrtkogt rbdnt=
4 C' Gm B ibigt to`` nor tnct'
> S' Rmu ibigt to`` nor tnct=
2 C' Gm B ibigt to`` nor tnct' Aut tnbs bs mgo
36 ml tno pmssbab`btbos nci wo dmttog tm tnct pmbgt
33 tncts wnct B wmu`i ncvo tm`i nor'
31 S' Aut tno lbrst tbko ymu wogt tm soo nor ymu
38 woro wbtn smko pm`bho mllbhors hmrroht=
39 C' Ros B wcs'
3? S' Cgi ymu ibigt lbgi nor tnct pcrtbhu`cr icy=
3< C' Gm B ibigt'
34 S' Cgi tncts tno 39tn=
3> C' Ros tncts tno 39tn'
32 S' Ibi tno pm`bho mllbhors `ocvo tnobr hcri ct
16 tnct ciiross=
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13 C' Ros' Gm tnoy `olt bt wbtn ko'
11 S' @olt bt wbtn ymu=
18 C' Iotohtbvo Armwg cgi Acrh`cul mr smkotnbgd
19 `beo tnct'
1? S' Gmw wnog ymu wogt tm tno `mhctbmg mg tno
1< 39tn cgi ymu ibigt lbgi Jcgot tnoro ++
14 C' Qbdnt'
1> S' ++ ibi ymu `ocvo cgy kosscdo tnct ymu nci 36 S' ++ ibi cgymgo to`` ymu tnct tnoy woro aobgd
2 no`i cdcbgst tnobr wb`` ay Kbhnco` Jchesmg=
36 C' Gm tnoy ibi gmt'
33 S' Iurbgd tnct bgtorvbow ibi cgy ml tno lckb`y
31 scy tnoy woro aobgd causoi ay Kbhnco` Jchesmg bgcgy
38 wcy=
39 C' Gm tnoy ibi gmt'
3? S' Ibi cgy kokaor ml tno lckb`y scy tnoy woro
3< aobgd lc`so`y bkprbsmgoi ct Govor`cgi=
34 C' Gm tnoy ibi gmt'
3> S' Ibi tnoy scy cgytnbgd camut tnobr ovog
32 wcgtbgd tm dm ache tm Govor`cgi5 bl ymu egmw=
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16 C' Rmu egmw wnct= Xno ibi cse ko ++ sno wcgtoi
13 tm egmw bl B hmu`i ncvo tno bgtorvbow ct Govor`cgi
11 tno bgtorvbow wo woro ncvbgd aohcuso sno nci
18 roquostoi tnct prbmr tm ko spocebgd tm ++ chtuc``y
19 tc`ebgd tm nor'
1? S' Xno wcgtoi ymu tm trcvo` wbtn tno lckb`y tm
1< Govor`cgi lmr tno bgtorvbow=
14 C' Xno ibi suddost tnct'
1> S' Mecy' Cgi wnct wcs ymur rochtbmg tm tnct= 36 lo`t tnct tno ebis woro aobgd tcpoi wbtnmut nor
2 hmgsogt cgi wnct hmu`i sno im camut bt aohcusoB
36 ibi ncvo smko hmgvorsctbmgs wbtn nor cltor `ocvbgd
33 nor nmko'
31 S' Tnog ymu scy tcpoi wbtnmut nor hmgsogt
38 `ot ko tc`e ++
39 C' Xno kocgs tno Acsnbr tcpo'
3? S' Mecy'
3< C' Ros'
34 S' Xno ibigt sook tm ncvo cgy prma`ok wbtn tno
3> vbiomtcpo sno snmwoi ymu ml Kbhnco` Jchesmg wbtn
32 Dcvbg=
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16 C' Gm'
13 S' Xno wcgtoi ymu tm soo tnct rbdnt=
11 C' Ros' Ros'
18 S' Xno govor hmkp`cbgoi camut tnct tcpo ibi
19 sno=
1? C' Gm sno scbi sno wcgtoi tm snmw ko nmw
1< hcrbgd cgi `mvbgd Kbhnco` wcs'
14 S' Mecy' @ot ko cse ymu camut ymur bgtorvbow
1> mg tnct icy wbtn Dcvbg' No wcs 38 yocrs m`i rbdnt= 36
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3 C' Ct tno tbko yos'
1 S' Tnct ibi ymu cse nbk=
8 C' B cseoi nbk vory pmbgt+a`cge`y nci no ovor
9 s`opt bg tno aoi wbtn Kbhnco` Jchesmg'
? S' Cgi wnct ibi no scy=
< C' No tm`i ko Gm'
4 S' Cgi wnct o`so ibi ymu cse nbk=
> C' B cseoi nbk wnct wcs nbs ro`ctbmgsnbp wbtn
2 Kbhnco` Jchesmg' No tm`i ko nmw no kot nbk5 tnctno
36 wcs ct Yno @cudn Lchtmry ++ B kocg wbtn Jckbo
33 Kcscic cgi no wcgtoi tm drcgt c wbsn cgi tno wbsn
31 wcs tnct no wmu`i koot Kbhnco` Jchesmg' No wcs bg
38 tno nmspbtc` sullorbgd wbtn hcghor' Cgi nbs wbsn
39 wcs drcgtoi cgi tnoyvo nci c ro`ctbmgsnbp ovor
3? sbgho' No wcs vory lmgi ml nbk' Ynct no troctoi
3< nbk `beo c lctnor cgi no roc``y hcroi camut nbk'
34 S' Nmw `mgd im ymu tnbge ymur bgtorvbow wbtn
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3 Kbhnco` Jchesmg nci ovor imgo=
1 C' Gm no ibi gmt'
8 S' Mecy' Ibi no hmgtbguc``y prcbso Kbhnco`
9 Jchesmg tm ymu=
? C' Ros no ibi'
< S' Ibi no ovor hmkp`cbg camut cgytnbgd tnct wcs
4 dmbgd mg ct Govor`cgi=
> C' Gm no ibi gmt'
2 S' Mecy' Cgi wnct wcs nbs iokocgmr cs ymu woro
36 bgtorvbowbgd nbk=
33 C' Ebgi ml p`cylu`' Cppocroi tm ogjmy tno
31 cttogtbmg' \ory crtbhu`cto' \ory skcrt ebi'
38 S' Tcs Dcvbg prosogt wnog Jcgot snmwoi ymu tno
39 vbiom ml Kbhnco` Jchesmg cgi Dcvbg ct Govor`cgi=
3? C' Ros no wcs'
3< S' Ibi no ovor scy cgytnbgd camut tnct vbiom tm
34 ymu=
3> C' Gm no ibi gmt'
32 S' Mecy' Tnog ymu wcthnoi tno vbiom wcs
16 cgyamiy spocebgd=
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3 vbiom=
1 C' Ros'
8 S' Tcs bt ymur bkprossbmg tnct tnoy woro c``
9 ncppy camut tnct vbiom=
? C' Ros'
< S' Bts mg`y tno Acsnbr vbiom tnoy hmkp`cbgoi
4 camut rbdnt=
> C' Rocn tnoy ibi hmkp`cbg camut tnct'
2 S' Mecy' C`` rbdnt' Gmw wnog ymu lbgbsnoi
36 ymur bgtorvbow wbtn Jcgot just acsoi mg wnct ymu
33 egow ct tnct pmbgt wnct wcs ymur hmgh`usbmg bl
31 cgy=
38 C' Tnct B im bs B ++ B bgtorvbow c`` tno pomp`o
39 bgvm`voi'
3? S' Mecy'
3< C' Ynog B dm cgi B wrbto c ropmrt cgi B im ++
34 B im tno hmgh`usbmg mg tno ropmrt'
3> S' Xm ymu ncigt lmrkoi cgy hmgh`usbmg ++
32 C' Gmt ct tnct tbko'
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16 S' ++ ugtb` ymu nci imgo c`` tno bgtorvbows
13 rbdnt=
11 C' _gtb` B ibi c`` tno bgtorvbows'
18 S' Mecy' Rmu c`sm bgtorvbowoi Xtcr Crvbzm
19 rbdnt=
1? C' Ros B ibi'
1< S' Cgi wnct ebgi ml quostbmgs ibi ymu cse Xtcr=
14 C' C`` tno scko quostbmgs'
1> S' Mecy' 36
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3 C' Tnct wcs nbs ro`ctbmgsnbp wbtn Kbhnco`
1 Jchesmg' Ncs Kbhnco` Jchesmg ovor soxuc``y causoi
8 ymu mr tmuhnoi ymu bgcpprmprbcto`y= B cseoi Tnct
9 usuc``y ncppogs wnog ymu dm tm Govor`cgi= Ynroo
? acsbh quostbmgs'
< S' _n+nun'
4 C' B cseoi nbk camut tnobr kmtnor nmw sno
> tceos hcro ml tnok ymu egmw'
2 S' Tnct ibi Dcvbg to`` ymu camut nmw nbs kmtnor
36 tceos hcro ml nbk=
33 C' No prcbsoi nbs kmtnor cgi tc`eoi camut nmw
31 dmmi sno tceos hcro ml nbk cgi ymu egmw snos
38 aoog ay nbk tnrmudn tno hcghor cgi tno hnokmtnorcpy
39 tnct no wcs dmbgd tnrmudn'
3? S' @ot ko cse ymu camut wnct Xtcr tm`i ymu'
3< Rmu cseoi nbk tno scko ebgis ml quostbmgs ymu cseoi
34 Dcvbg rbdnt=
3> C' Ros B ibi'
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32 S' Tnct ibi Xtcr to`` ymu=
16 C' No prcbsoi Kbhnco` Jchesmg scbi tnct nos
13 aoog `beo c lctnor tm nbk cgi no kot nbk tnrmudn
11 nbs armtnor ct tno ++ B kocg kot nbk tnrmudn nbs
18 armtnor cltor no wcs bgtrmiuhoi ay Jckbo Kcscic
19 ymu egmw tm Kbhnco` Jchesmg'
1? Cgi no scbi tnoy ncvo lug wnog tnoy dm tm
1< Govor`cgi tnoy usuc``y im skmros ao ay tno
14 lbrop`cho tnoy p`cy crmugi c `mt' Ynoy scbi tnoy
1> nci gbhegckos lmr ochn mtnor' Kbhnco` nci c 36
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3 gbhegcko lmr nbk' Nbs gcko wcs A`mwlbsn Cgi no
1 scbi Kbhnco` hcg dot `mui tmm ct smko tbkos'
8 Rmu egmw vory 31 yocr+m`i'
9 S' Ibi Xtcr scy cgytnbgd godctbvo camut Kbhnco`
? Jchesmg ct cgy tbko=
< C' Gm no ibi gmt'
4 S' Ibi no hmgtbguc``y prcbso nbk=
> C' Ros no ibi'
2 S' Mecy' Tnct wcs Xtcrs iokocgmr wnog ymu
36 quostbmgoi nbk=
33 C' No wcs c ncppy ebi' No wcs ++
31 S' Ibi Xtcr sook spmgtcgomus bg nbs rospmgsos
38 tm ymu=
39 KQ' XGOIIMG: Majoht' Hc``s lmr c
3? hmgh`usbmg' @che ml lmugictbmg'
3< YNO HM_QY: Mvorru`oi'
34 Rmu kcy cgswor'
3> YNO TBYGOXX: Nmw ibi no sook=
32 KQ' KOXOQOC_: @ot ko ropnrcso tno quostbmg'
16 S' Nmw kcgy bgtorvbows im ymu tnbge ymu nci
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13 hmgiuhtoi ml kmtnors cgi hnb`irog ct tnbs pmbgtbg
11 ymur hcroor= Tmu`i bt ao tnmuscgis=
18 C' Mn yocn'
19 S' Ynmuscgis=
1? C' Ynmuscgis'
1< S' Mecy' Cgi wnog ymu woro bgtorvbowbgd Jcgot
14 cgi tnoso hnb`irog ibi tnoy cppocr `beo tnoy nci
1> kokmrbzoi tnobr cgswors mr tnct tnoy woro lm``mwbgd 36
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3 shrbpts tm ymu mr ibi tnoy sook `beo tnoy woro
1 gcturc` cgi spmgtcgomus=
8 KQ' XGOIIMG: Xcko majohtbmg Rmur Nmgmr'
9 YNO HM_QY: Mvorru`oi'
? Rmu kcy cgswor'
< YNO TBYGOXX: Bt sookoi spmgtcgomus'
4 S' AR KQ' KOXOQOC_: Mecy'
> C' Yno lckb`y vory bgtorchtbvo wbtn ochn
2 mtnor' Xookoi `beo tnoy nci c dmmi ro`ctbmgsnbp
36 wbtn tnobr kmk'
33 S' Cgi wnog ++ ymu scbi tnct wnog ymu
31 bgtorvbowoi Jcgot tno hnb`irog wmu`i smkotbkos
38 bgtorjoht cgi spoce up rbdnt=
39 C' Ros' @beo bg cdrookogt'
3? S' Mecy' Cgi wnog ymu woro bgtorvbowbgd ochn
3< hnb`i Dcvbg Xtcr Icvo``bg wmu`i mtnors bgtorjoht
34 cs wo`` iurbgd tnmso quostbmgs=
3> C' Gmt kuhn' Gm'
32 S' To`` lmr oxckp`o wnog ymu cseoi Dcvbg
16 quostbmgs camut Kbhnco` Jchesmg im ymu rohc`` t
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no
13 kmtnor bgtorjohtbgd cgi scybgd=
11 C' Gm sno ibigt scy cgytnbgd'
18 S' Nmw camut tno mtnor ebis=
19 C' Gm'
1? S' Ibi tnoy c``mw ymu tm bgtorvbow ++
1< C' Ros'
14 S' ++ bgtorvbow ochn porsmg sopcrcto`y ++
1> C' Ros' 36
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3 S' ++ ovog tnmudn tnoy woro tnoro=
1 C' Ros'
8 S' Im ymu rohc`` cgytnbgd o`so tnct Xtcr nci tm
9 scy=
? C' Acsbhc``y just `btt`o lug tnbgds wnct dmos
< mg' No p`cys vbiom dckos' No imos tnct' Gmtnbgd
4 o`so gm'
> S' Cgi ibi no ovor scy cgytnbgd aci camut
2 Kbhnco`=
36 C' Gm no ibi gmt'
33 S' Mecy' Rmu bgtorvbowoi Icvo``bg rbdnt=
31 C' Ros B ibi'
38 S' Cgi wnct ebgi ml quostbmgs im ymu rohc``
39 csebgd Icvo``bg=
3? C' B cseoi nor tno scko quostbmgs'
3< S' Mecy'
34 C' Qo`ctbmgsnbp sno nci wbtn Kbhnco` Jchesmg5
3> wnct ibi sno usuc``y im wnog sno dmos bgtm
32 Govor`cgi' Cgi B c`sm cseoi nor tno scko quostbmgs
16 Ibi cgyamiy ovor tmuhn ymu bgcpprmprbcto`y mr k
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ceo
13 ymu loo` ughmklmrtca`o=
11 S' Cgi wnct ibi sno scy=
18 C' Xno scbi Gm'
19 S' Mecy' Ibi sno prcbso Kbhnco` Jchesmg=
1? C' Ros sno ibi'
1< S' Mecy' Gmw wnm tm`i ymu tnct tno lckb`y
14 wmu`i prolor tnct ymu hmko tm Govor`cgi wbtn tnok
1> lmr tno bgtorvbow= 36
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3 C' Jcgot ibi'
1 S' Toro tno hnb`irog wbtn Jcgot wnog sno scbi
8 tnct=
9 C' Gm sno tm`i ko tnct mvor tno to`opnmgo'
? Xno nci ky ho`` pnmgo gukaor'
< S' Mecy' Cgi nmw ibi sno dot ymur ho`` pnmgo
4 gukaor=
> C' Aohcuso wnog sno hc``oi tno shnmm` B hc``oi
2 nor ache mg ky ho`` pnmgo gukaor sm sno nci bt'
36 S' Mecy'
33 C' Rmu egmw sm ++
31 S' Tmu`i tnbs ncvo aoog cltor tno 39tn=
38 C' Gm tnct wcs ++ yocn rbdnt bt wcs `beo
39 kcyao tno 32tn'
3? S' Yno 32tn=
3< C' B hcgt rokokaor tno oxcht icy' B tnbge tno
34 16tn wcs mg c Yuosicy' Bk gmt roc``y suro' Autbt
3> wcs prbmr tm tnct wnog B wogt tm tno shnmm` cgiB
32 spmeo tm tno hmugso`mr'
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16 S' Mecy'
13 C' Xno ibi ncvo ky ho`` pnmgo gukaor' Xno ibi
11 hc`` ko sovorc` tbkos'
18 S' Mg tno ho`` pnmgo=
19 C' Ros'
1? S' Im ymu egmw cpprmxbkcto`y wnog Jcgot hc``oi
1< ymu mg tno ho`` pnmgo=
14 C' Icb`y'
1> S' Icb`y= 36
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3 C' Rmu egmw B hcgt roc``y rohc`` aohcuso
1 bts aoog twm yocrs cdm' Aut B im tnbge bt wcs `beo
8 ovory mtnor icy mr ++ aohcuso B wcs bgvostbdctbgd'
9 S' Qbdnt'
? C' Cgi sno wcs roc``y cgxbmus tm lbgi mut wnct
< B wcs dmbgd tm scy mr wnctovor'
4 B tm`i nor ct tnct pmbgt bl cgytnbgd wcs
> dmbgd tm ncppog B wmu`i ncvo imgo bt tno icy mltno
2 bgbtbc` bgtorvbow wnbhn wmu`i ncvo aoog tno 16tn'
36 S' Ibi sno hc`` ymu mg ymur ho`` pnmgo aolmro
33 tno 16tn=
31 C' Ros'
38 S' Mecy'
39 C' Xno hc``oi ko sm wo hmu`i kceo crrcgdokogts
3? tm ncvo tno bgtorvbow'
3< S' Mecy' Im ymu egmw cpprmxbkcto`y wnog sno
34 lbrst hc``oi ymu mg ymur ho`` pnmgo=
3> C' To`` scy tno icy ml ++ wnog B wogt tm tno
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3 .Qohoss tceog'"
1 ++m6m++
8
9
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2
36
33
31
38
39
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32
16
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13
11
18
19
1?
1 36
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3 QOVMQYOQX HOQYBLBHCYO
1
8
9 YNO VOMV@O ML YNO XYCYO "
? ML HC@BLMQGBC "
< V`cbgtbll "
4 +vs+ " Gm' 3388 KBHNCO@ JMO JCHEXMG "
2 Iologicgt' "
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31 B KBHNO@O KCYYXMG KhGOB@ QVQ HQQ
38 HXQ (8869 Mllbhbc` Hmurt Qopmrtor im noroay
39 hortbly:
3? Ynct tno lmrodmbgd pcdos 36?22 tnrmudn 36
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16 roiuhoi tm typowrbtbgd ay hmkputor+cbioi
13 trcgshrbptbmg ugior ky ibrohtbmg'
11 ICYOI: Xcgtc Kcrbc Hc`blmrgbc
18 Kcy 34 166?'
19
1?
1 36
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3 X_VOQBMQ HM_QY ML YNO XYCYO ML HC@BLMQGBC
1 BG CGI LMQ YNO HM_GYR ML XCGYC ACQACQC
8 XCGYC KCQBC AQCGHN5 HMME XYQOOY IB\BXBMG
9 IOVCQYKOGY XK+1 NMG' QMIGOR X' KO@\B@@O J_IDO
?
Xcgtc Acracrc Hc`blmrgbc 28363
2
36
33 Lmr Iologicgt: HM@@BGX KOXOQOC_ QOIIMHE , R_ AR: YNMKCX C'
KOXOQOC_ JQ' OXS'
31 +cgi+ X_XCG H' R_ OXS'
38 3>4? Hogtury Vcre Ocst Xubto 466 @ms Cgdo`os Hc`blmrgbc 266
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32
16 Lmr Tbtgossos HM_GYR ML @MX CGDO@OX Brogo @cvorg@@MRI T' VO@@KCG
13 Votors cgi Hmugty Hmugso` Ecrog Tc`eor: 163 Hogtro V`czc Irbvo Xubto 3
11 Kmgtoroy Vcre Hc`blmrgbc 234?9+1398
18
19
1?
1 36
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3 B G I O ^
1
8 Gmto: Kr' Xgoiimg bs `bstoi cs XG mg bgiox'
9 Kr' Zmgog bs `bstoi cs Z mg bgiox' Kr' Cuhnbgh`mss bs `bstoi cs C mg bgiox'
? Kr' Kosorocu bs `bstoi cs K mg bgiox' Ks' Ru bs`bstoi cs R mg bgiox'
< Kr' Xcgdor bs `bstoi cs XC mg bgiox'
4
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2 IOLOGICGYX
36 TBYGOXXOX IBQOHY HQMXX QOIBQOHY QOHQMXX
33 VOYOQX Brogo
31 @cvorg 366+XG 36486+K 364?3+XG
38 364?9+K .Lurtnor"
39 TC@EOQ
3? Ecrog 364?316+XG
3< JCHEXMG Xbkmgo
34 Vohn 36>18+K
3>
32
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16
13
11
18
19
1?
1 36
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3 KQ' KOXOQOC_: Yncge ymu Rmur Nmgmr'
1 S' Kbss Votors wnog wo `olt mll ymu kogtbmgoi
8 tnct Jcgot Crvbzm nci ymur ho`` pnmgo gukaor bg
9 Loarucry ml 1668 rbdnt=
? C' Ros sno ibi'
< S' Mecy' Cgi B ao`bovo ymu scbi sno dmt ymur
4 ho`` pnmgo gukaor smkotbko cltor ymu cgi tno pm`b
ho
> mllbhors trboi tm lbgi nor mg tno 39tn5 bs tnct
2 hmrroht=
36 C' Yncts hmrroht'
33 S' Cgi B tnbge ymu scbi tnbs aut B cpm`mdbzo
31 B hcgt rokokaor' Nmw im ymu tnbge sno dmt ymur
38 ho`` pnmgo gukaor=
39 C' Aohcuso B hc``oi nor ache mg ky ++ wnog B
3? wogt tm tno shnmm` tno shnmm` dcvo ko nor pnmgo
3< gukaor'
34 S' Mecy'
3> C' Cgi B hc``oi nor mg ky ho`` gukaor'
32 S' Mecy' Cgi sno nci ymur ho`` pnmgo gukaor
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16 cltor tnct pcrtbhu`cr hc``=
13 C' Ros sno ibi'
11 S' Cgi ymu scbi sno hc``oi ymu c gukaor ml
18 tbkos rbdnt=
19 C' Ros sovorc` tbkos' B imgt egmw nmw kcgy
1? tbkos aut B tc`eoi tm nor sovorc` tbkos'
1< S' Cgi B ao`bovo ymu scbi smkotbko aolmro ymur
14 bgtorvbow mg tno 16tn sno hc``oi ymu cgi scbiTny
1> imgt wo ncvo tno bgtorvbow ct Govor`cgi= Qbdnt= 36
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3 C' Ros'
1 S' Cgi ymu rolusoi rbdnt=
8 C' Ros'
9 S' Cgi wny bs tnct=
? C' Aohcuso B ncvo tm bgtorvbow wnoro tno
< hnb`irog suppmsoi`y cro stcybgd' Aut B hmu`i gmtdm
4 tm tno ciiross bg Ocst @'C' aohcuso lbrst ml c``
> B ibigt egmw bt cgi tnct wcs tno ciiross tnct wcs
2 `bstoi mg tno rolorrc`'
36 S' Mecy' C`` rbdnt' Gmw nmw kcgy tbkos
33 aolmro ymur bgtorvbow mg tno 16tn im ymu tnbge Jcgot
31 Crvbzm hc``oi ymur ho`` pnmgo gukaor=
38 C' Kcyao twm mr tnroo tbkos'
39 S' Mecy' Bg cgy ml tnmso hc``s ibi Jcgot
3? Crvbzm ovor to`` ymu sno wcs aobgd no`i cdcbgstnor
3< wb``=
34 C' Gm'
3> S' Bg cgy ml tnmso hc``s ibi Jcgot Crvbzm to``
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32 ymu tnct sno wcs aobgd lc`so`y bkprbsmgoi ay cgymgo
16 hmggohtoi tm Kbhnco` Jchesmg=
13 C' Gm sno ibi gmt'
11 S' Bg cgy ml tnmso hc``s ibi Jcgot Crvbzm to``
18 ymu tnct nor hnb`irog woro aobgd no`i cdcbgst tnobr
19 wb`` ay Kbhnco` Jchesmg=
1? C' Gm sno ibi gmt'
1< S' Bg cgy ml tnmso hc``s ibi Krs' Crvbzm ovor
14 scy tnct nor hnb`irog woro aobgd no`i cdcbgst tnobr
1> wb`` ay cgymgo cssmhbctoi wbtn Kbhnco` Jchesmg=36
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3 C' Gm sno ibi gmt'
1 S' Bg cgy ml tnmso hc``s ibi Jcgot Crvbzm to``
8 ymu tnct sno wcs tno vbhtbk ml oxtmrtbmg=
9 C' Gm sno ibi gmt'
? S' Bg cgy ml tnmso hc``s ibi Jcgot Crvbzm scy
< tnct nor hnb`irog woro tno vbhtbk ml oxtmrtbmg=
4 C' Gm sno ibi gmt'
> S' Bg cgy ml tnmso hc``s ibi Jcgot Crvbzm cse
2 ymu tm hc`` tno pm`bho ++
36 C' Gm'
33 S' ++ aohcuso sno wcs ++
31 C' Gm'
38 S' ++ tno vbhtbk ml hrbko=
39 C' Gm'
3? S' Bg cgy ml tnmso hc``s ibi Jcgot Crvbzm scy
3< Mur lckb`y bs aobgd ebigcppoi=
34 C' Gm sno ibi gmt'
3> S' Mecy' Gmw cltor ymur bgtorvbow wbtn tno
32 Crvbzm lckb`y mg tno 16tn ct Jcy Jchesmgs
16 cpcrtkogt ibi Jcgot hmgtbguo tm hc`` ymu mg tno
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13 ho`` pnmgo=
11 C' Xno hc``oi tno mllbho sovorc` tbkos' Xno
18 c`sm spmeo tm tno suporvbsmr' B tc`eoi tm nor kcyao
19 c low kmro tbkos mg tno ho`` pnmgo'
1? S' Mecy' Cgi bg cgy ml tnmso hc``s mg tno ho``
1< pnmgo ibi Jcgot Crvbzm to`` ymu Ky lckb`y bstno
14 vbhtbk ml hrbko=
1> KQ' XGOIIMG: Majoht' Cseoi cgi cgsworoi 36
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13 olloht V`ocso hc`` tno pm`bho' Ky lckb`y bs aobgd
11 lc`so`y bkprbsmgoi=
18 C' Gm sno ibi gmt'
19 S' Mecy' Bg cgy ml tnmso ho`` pnmgo hc``s
1? cltor tno 16tn ibi Jcgot Crvbzm scy Kbhnco` Jchesmg
1< bs imbgd cgytnbgd bkprmpor=
14 C' Gm'
1> S' C`` rbdnt' Tmu`i bt ao hmrroht tm scy tnct 36
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3 tno ho`` pnmgo hc``s tnct Jcgot Crvbzm kcio tm ymu
1 cltor tno 16tn woro prbkcrb`y hmghorgoi wbtn wnct
8 ymur ropmrt wcs dmbgd tm ao=
9 C' Ros' Acsbhc``y' Cgi sno wcs hmkp`cbgbgd
? camut ++ sno wcs hmkp`cbgbgd camut wnct hmu`i snoim
< tm try tm ++ wbtn gmt aobgd ++ wnct hmu`i sno im
4 camut tno Acsnbr imhukogt aobgd soog wbtnmut nor
> hmgsogt ++
2 S' Mecy'
36 C' ++ acsbhc``y'
33 Cgi sno cseoi ko cgi B tm`i nor B wcs gmt c
31 `cwyor B wcs c smhbc` wmreor cgi kcyao sno snmu`i
38 dot c `cwyor bl ymu wcgt tm pursuo bt' Yncts wnct
39 B tm`i nor'
3? S' Ibi sno ovor suddost tm ymu tnct sno mr nor
3< hnb`irog snmu`i ncvo aoog pcbi lmr cppocrbgd mgtno
34 Acsnbr bgtorvbow=
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3> C' Kcbg`y hmghorgoi camut tno lcht tnct tnoy
32 ibi gmt ncvo nor hmgsogt'
16 S' Mecy' Ibi sno ovor scy cgytnbgd camut tnoy
13 snmu`i ncvo aoog pcbi=
11 KQ' XGOIIMG: Majoht' Cseoi cgi cgsworoi'
18 YNO TBYGOXX: Gm'
19 YNO HM_QY: Xustcbgoi'
1? S' AR KQ' KOXOQOC_: Im ymu rohc`` ymurso`l
1< ibshussbgd cgytnbgd wbtn Jcgot Crvbzm camut wnotnor
14 nor ebis snmu`i ao hmkpogsctoi=
1> KQ' XGOIIMG: Majoht' Cseoi cgi cgsworoi' 36
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3 YNO HM_QY: Mvorru`oi'
1 Rmu kcy cgswor'
8 YNO TBYGOXX: Xno ibi gmt scy hmkpogsctoi'
9 Xno wcgtoi tm egmw wnct hmu`i sno im wnct
? drmugis ++ wnct `odc` drmugis ibi sno ncvo cdcbgst
< bt bl sno ibi gmt ncvo hmgsogt ibi gmt dbvo nor
4 ebis hmgsogt' Xno ibigt ncvo nor hmgsogt tm ncvo
> nor ebis snmwg mg Y'\'
2 S' AR KQ' KOXOQOC_: Mecy' C`` rbdnt' Just
36 mgo pmbgt camut tno aodbggbgd ml tno bgtorvbow ct
33 tno Jchesmg cpcrtkogt mg tno 16tn'
31 Ibi Jcgot Crvbzm snmw ymu pbhturos ml nor
38 lckb`y wbtn ho`oarbtbos mg tnct icy=
39 C' B imgt tnbge sm' Gm'
3? S' Rmu imgt rohc`` nor arbgdbgd mut pnmtms=
3< C' B imgt rohc``' Kcyao sno ibi'
34 S' Aut ymu im rohc`` tno vbiom sno snmwoi ymu
3> ml hmurso=
32 C' Rocn tno vbiom'
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16 S' Rmu imgt rohc`` nor snmwbgd ymu pnmtms ml
13 ho`oarbtbos=
11 C' Rmu egmw kcyao sno ibi' B hcgt rokokaor'
18 S' Mecy' C`` rbdnt'
19 C' Ynct B hcggmt rokokaor'
1? S' Bs bt pmssba`o sno ibi tnct cltor tno tcpo
1< wcs p`cyoi=
14 KQ' XGOIIMG: Rmur Nmgmr Bk dmbgd tm
1> majoht cs cseoi cgi cgsworoi' Hc``s lmr 36
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3 spohu`ctbmg'
1 YNO HM_QY: Xustcbgoi'
8 S' AR KQ' KOXOQOC_: Cltor tno tcpo ml Kbhnco`
9 Jchesmg cgi Dcvbg wcs p`cyoi ct tnct cpcrtkogt ibi
? Jcgot Crvbzm ovor to`` ymu tno gckos ml cgy
< ho`oarbtbos sno egow=
4 C' Rocn sno ibi'
> S' Tnct ibi sno scy=
2 C' Xno tc`eoi camut Hnrbs Yuheor cgi nbs hmkbgd
36 mvor tm tno nmuso cgi B tnbge tnoy woro ncvbgd++
33 kcebgd skmros mr smkotnbgd cgi tnoy woro crmug
i
31 tno lbrop`cho' Cgi sno tc`eoi camut c low mtnor
38 pomp`o' B hcgt roc``y rokokaor' B wcs tnoro tm
39 bgvostbdcto tno dogorc` god`oht' B dmt ymu egmw++
3? S' Ibi bt cppocr tm ymu tnct sno wcs trybgd tm
3< bkpross ymu camut tno ho`oarbtbos sno egow=
34 C' Bg wnct wcy= Im ymu wcgt ky masorvctbmg=
3> S' Ros'
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32 C' Ros'
16 S' Mecy' Gmw ymu kogtbmgoi tnct Jcgot tc`eoi
13 tm ymu camut nor smg Xtcr ncvbgd c hyst mg nbs
11 arcbg'
18 C' Rocn'
19 S' Im ymu rokokaor wnct sno scbi camut tnct=
1? C' Yncts c`` sno scbi' Cgi B cseoi nor tno
1< imhtmrs gcko' Xno tm`i ko Ecbsor' B hc``oi tno
14 nmspbtc`' B trboi tm hc`` tno imhtmr' B govor ibi
1> dot cgy rospmgso lrmk tnok' 36
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16 S' 86=
13 C' Rocn'
11 S' Mecy'
18 C' Cgi bt tmme ko c `btt`o wnb`o tm dot bg
19 tmuhn wbtn nor' Camut obdnt sovog icys'
1? S' Mecy' Gmw typbhc``y cltor ymu hmgiuht tno
1< bgtorvbow wbtn tno lckb`y wnbhn ymu ml hmurso ibi
14 mg tno 16tn ml Loarucry 1668 wnct im ymu typbhc``y
1> im goxt bg ymur bgvostbdctbmg= 36
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3 C' B kceo c iohbsbmg acsoi mg tno bglmrkctbmg
1 tncts dctnoroi'
8 S' Cgi ibi ymu kceo c iohbsbmg ct smko pmbgt=
9 C' B nci tm yocn' B kcio c iohbsbmg'
? S' Tnct wcs ymur iohbsbmg=
< C' Mg tno 14tn ml Loarucry' Ynct tno
4 c``odctbmgs lmr dogorc` god`oht ml kmtnor Jcgot
> \ogturc tno c``odctbmgs ml soxuc` causo ay Kbhnco`
2 Jchesmg woro uglmugioi ct tnct tbko ++
36 S' Mecy'
33 C' ++ acsoi mg tno bglmrkctbmg rohobvoi'
31 S' Gmw wnct cro smko ml tno lchtmrs tnct wogt
38 bgtm ymur hmgh`usbmgs=
39 C' Lmr dogorc` god`oht cs B oxp`cbgoi tm ymu
3? ocr`bor tno ebis woro bg shnmm`' Ynoy woro c``
3< koibhc``y aobgd troctoi' Ynoy nci suporvbsbmg'
34 Ynoy nci sno`tor lmmi h`mtnbgd' Ynoy woro gmtbg
3> cgy wcy bg cg ugsclo ogvbrmgkogt' Ynmso cro tno
32 lchtmrs tnct wogt bgtm tnct'
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16 S' Mecy' Cgi wnog ymu lmrkoi ymur hmgh`usbmgs
13 wnct ibi ymu im wbtn tnok=
11 C' To`` B ncvo tm wrbto tnok' B wrbto wnct
18 tnoy hc`` cg C``odctbmg cgi Bgvostbdctbmg Gcrrctbvo
19 ml tno rolorrc` tno c``odctbmgs'
1? Cgi B wogt tnrmudn c`` ml tno camvo tnbgds
1< tnct wovo aoog spocebgd camut mr wnct ++ tno
14 quostbmgs tnct B cseoi tnok cgi wnct woro tno
1> cgswors bg rospmgso tm tnok' 36
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3 Cltor tnct B wrbto wnct tnoy hc`` c
1 Hmgh`usbmg acsoi mg tno bglmrkctbmg dctnoroi cgi
8 rohobvoi'
9 S' Cgi ymu put ymur hmgh`usbmgs bg wrbttog
? lmrk=
< C' Ros B ibi'
4 S' Cgi wnct ibi ymu im wbtn tno wrbttog ropmrt=
> C' Bt bs turgoi bg tm tno suporvbsmr' Bt wcs
2 vbc mur hmkputor' Bt dmos ibroht`y tm tno
36 suporvbsmr cgi sno rovbows bt'
33 S' Mecy' Cgi nmw `mgd im ymu tnbge Jcgot
31 hmgtbguoi tm hc`` ymu mg ymur ho`` pnmgo=
38 KQ' XGOIIMG: Rmur Nmgmr Bk dmbgd tm
39 majoht' \cduo cs tm tbko'
3? KQ' KOXOQOC_: B`` ropnrcso bt'
3< YNO TBYGOXX: Xno hc``oi tno jma c`sm'
34 S' AR KQ' KOXOQOC_: B ncvo tm ropnrcso tno
3> quostbmg' Bk smrry'
32 C' Mecy'
16 S' Cltor ymur bgtorvbow mg Loarucry 16tn 1668
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13 ymuvo bgibhctoi tnct Jcgot hmgtbguoi tm hc`` ymu mg
11 ymur ho`` pnmgo rbdnt=
18 C' Rocn'
19 S' Lmr nmw `mgd cltor Loarucry 16tn im ymu
1? tnbge sno hc``oi ymu m