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Preparing for a 17025 Initial Assessment Douglas Berg, Testing Program Manager, Perry Johnson Laboratory Accreditation, Inc. (PJLA) March 11, 2015
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Page 1: Preparing for a 17025 Initial Assessment Douglas Berg, Testing Program Manager, Perry Johnson Laboratory Accreditation, Inc. (PJLA) March 11, 2015.

Preparing for a 17025 Initial Assessment

Douglas Berg, Testing Program Manager, Perry Johnson Laboratory Accreditation, Inc. (PJLA)

March 11, 2015

Page 2: Preparing for a 17025 Initial Assessment Douglas Berg, Testing Program Manager, Perry Johnson Laboratory Accreditation, Inc. (PJLA) March 11, 2015.

First …. Thank You

Page 3: Preparing for a 17025 Initial Assessment Douglas Berg, Testing Program Manager, Perry Johnson Laboratory Accreditation, Inc. (PJLA) March 11, 2015.

What is an “Assessment”

• It is a process to determine or evaluate the technical competence of a laboratory: testing, calibration, reference material producer, inspection, etc.– ISO/IEC 17025:2005 – Testing, Calibration– ISO/IEC Guide 34:2009 – Reference Material

Producers– ISO 17020:2012 – Inspection Bodies– ISO 15189:20012 – Medical Laboratories

Page 4: Preparing for a 17025 Initial Assessment Douglas Berg, Testing Program Manager, Perry Johnson Laboratory Accreditation, Inc. (PJLA) March 11, 2015.

About PJLA • Private accreditation body that accredits testing and calibration

laboratories, reference material producers, and field sampling organizations to International and National Standards (i.e. ISO/IEC 17025, ISO Guide 34 DoD ELAP, TNI NEFAP)

• Operating since 1999

• Located in Troy, MI

• Over 700 Accredited Organizations

• Also offer training sessions (free webinars, public training and on-site training

• Obtain international approvals to accredit organizations by (ILAC and APLAC)

Page 5: Preparing for a 17025 Initial Assessment Douglas Berg, Testing Program Manager, Perry Johnson Laboratory Accreditation, Inc. (PJLA) March 11, 2015.

Accreditation Process

Application for Accreditation(Tests, Methods, Equipment, Detection limits, Technicians, Sites)

Documentation Review(Quality Manual, Technical Procedures, Proficiency Tests)

On-Site Assessment(Review of quality system and technical requirements (technicians, equipment, environmental conditions, records, traceability, measurement uncertainty data,

proficiency testing) All tests and elements of the standard assessed.

Post Assessment ActivitiesNonconformances issued after the assessment/labs have 60 days to submit

corrective action (including root cause and objective evidence)

Page 6: Preparing for a 17025 Initial Assessment Douglas Berg, Testing Program Manager, Perry Johnson Laboratory Accreditation, Inc. (PJLA) March 11, 2015.

Accreditation ProcessFinal Review/Accreditation Decision

All paperwork including report, nonconformites, checklists etc. are reviewed by an independent review committee to grant or deny accreditation (typically completed 2-4 weeks after CA submission)

Certificate IssuanceUpon a favorable review by accreditation decision committee; includes test field, tests performed,

method, equipment used and detection limit as applicable; published on PJLA website

Surveillance AssessmentsConducted on-site 1 year from the initial accreditation assessment; Ensure labs are maintaining accreditation-proficiency testing, internal audits, management review,

complaints, corrective actions, assessment of the lab for a portion of the scope

Reassessments2 Years from the initial accreditation-similar to the initial accreditation (full scope assessed, all

elements of the standard, accreditation review process and updated certificate)

Page 7: Preparing for a 17025 Initial Assessment Douglas Berg, Testing Program Manager, Perry Johnson Laboratory Accreditation, Inc. (PJLA) March 11, 2015.

Options Prior to Initial Assessment• Some labs may choose to have a

preassessment before initial assessment – It is distinct and separate from the initial assessment

– It is not part of the assessment/accreditation process

– It is not required

– It is not “consulting”

– It is not “auditing/assessing” into “compliance”

– It does not obligate the organization pre-assessed

– It is an exposure to the overall on-site assessment process – notification/agenda, opening, assessing, evidence, documenting, reporting, closing, etc.

– It is a shorter (1 day of on-site time typically) activity

– It is an an evaluation and indication of an organization’s readiness to proceed

– It is a ”no” /“low” risk activity

Page 8: Preparing for a 17025 Initial Assessment Douglas Berg, Testing Program Manager, Perry Johnson Laboratory Accreditation, Inc. (PJLA) March 11, 2015.

Options Prior to Initial Assessment-Preassessment Cont’d –What We Do

• Review of documentation

• “Policy” and “Procedure” (“intents”/”purpose”/”what” and “how/who/when/etc”

• Looks at requirements organizations miss in ISO requirements and the Accrediting Body’s (AB) Policies and Operating Procedures applicable to the organization or Conformity Assessment Body (CAB)

• Look at records, how they are organized and kept

• A report – much like/same as an assessment report

• A list/identification of findings that is potential deficiencies/non-conformities and/or observations relative to:

• The CAB/organization does not need to respond to the “findings”

Page 9: Preparing for a 17025 Initial Assessment Douglas Berg, Testing Program Manager, Perry Johnson Laboratory Accreditation, Inc. (PJLA) March 11, 2015.

Common Findings

• Did not have/read a copy of ISO/IEC 17025 –OK this happened once – but had to mention it

• Roles and responsibilities of Technical Management and Quality Manager not defined

• Documents of external origin not identified or controlled: standards, rules/regulations, AB policies, etc.

• A master list of controlled documents does not exist

Page 10: Preparing for a 17025 Initial Assessment Douglas Berg, Testing Program Manager, Perry Johnson Laboratory Accreditation, Inc. (PJLA) March 11, 2015.

Common Findings

• Subcontractors not identified, qualified, or evidence of qualification not available

• Suppliers not identified/listed, qualified, or evidence of qualification not available

• Customer feedback not being sought

• No policy, procedure, records for “complaints”

• Non-conforming tests/calibrations/materials not handled or documented (resolution)

• Corrective actions – no root cause or follow up

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Common Findings• No preventive actions – potential problems/needed

improvements• Records not identified, retention times not defined• Changes to records – “obliterations” noted• Technical records not identified per requirements – also

items “recorded”, “a record made”, “defined”, “plans”, “lists: etc. – not in “records”

• A complete round of internal audits not done (needed before the assessment) – internal audit plan, procedure does not exist - -must address all elements

Page 12: Preparing for a 17025 Initial Assessment Douglas Berg, Testing Program Manager, Perry Johnson Laboratory Accreditation, Inc. (PJLA) March 11, 2015.

Common Findings• A management review not done (needed before

the assessment) – a schedule and procedure does not exist (can be part of other meetings …)

• Current reports (remember they are not accredited yet) do not meet the requirements of ISO/IEC section 5.10, ISO Guide 31 (reference materials), or the AB policies for traceability and/or uncertainty – for accredited reports/certificates

Page 13: Preparing for a 17025 Initial Assessment Douglas Berg, Testing Program Manager, Perry Johnson Laboratory Accreditation, Inc. (PJLA) March 11, 2015.

Common Findings

• A procedure for the estimation of uncertainty does not exist or has not been applied

• Internal calibrations do not meet the requirements for traceability (incl. uncertainty) expressed in ISO/IEC 17025 and the AB policies

• No procedure for the use/non-use of of the AB symbol or other recognition body symbols/marks

Page 14: Preparing for a 17025 Initial Assessment Douglas Berg, Testing Program Manager, Perry Johnson Laboratory Accreditation, Inc. (PJLA) March 11, 2015.

Common Findings

• Not having at least one acceptable proficiency testing activity completed before the initial assessment

• Not having 4 year proficiency plan spanning the scope prepared before the initial assessment

• Calibration sources that do not comply with requirements of ISO/IEC 17025 etc. or the AB traceability policy (driven by ILAC policies)

Page 15: Preparing for a 17025 Initial Assessment Douglas Berg, Testing Program Manager, Perry Johnson Laboratory Accreditation, Inc. (PJLA) March 11, 2015.

Other Findings

• No arrangements to ensure personnel are free from undue external and internal financial, commercial and other pressures

• No procedures to ensure and protect customer’s confidential information

• Quality objectives not defined (linked to Management Review)

• Other requirements

Page 16: Preparing for a 17025 Initial Assessment Douglas Berg, Testing Program Manager, Perry Johnson Laboratory Accreditation, Inc. (PJLA) March 11, 2015.

How Many Findings?

• Typically it is in the range of 10 to 20 findings

• The largest has been 54 findings !! (2 assessors) – an initial assessment turned into a pre-assessment (this is allowed in PJLA procedures if an initial assessment with no previous pre-assessment has significant issues)

Page 17: Preparing for a 17025 Initial Assessment Douglas Berg, Testing Program Manager, Perry Johnson Laboratory Accreditation, Inc. (PJLA) March 11, 2015.

QUESTIONS?? & CONTACT INFO

Doug Berg, [email protected] or Tracy Szerszen- [email protected] Perry Johnson Laboratory Accreditation, Inc. 755 West Big Beaver Rd, Troy, MI 48084 Tel: (248) 519-2603www.pjlabs.com

Thank you!!


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