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Gray DaV4S, qtat c'ha4 7rman .R.:Tyreserted by Mr. james Tucker
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F_ "iorabie Leo 7. McCarthy. L4ertPrant G,we-r-nor, PPDrested be mr. 7,7 yfF7271,-;7g Chief Enviror7,,nta7 Counsel
Mr. Jesse R. Hu5f, Director of Finance 72,To7rese7-..Ited by Mr. LaFenus Stancell Assistant Director
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v-. Executiv Officer
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7iST7nt, nief Counsel
Mr. Dwig7lt E. Sanders, Chief, Division of Research & P7arninc7
Mr. Jeff Tong, Associate Lar,
Ms. Gail Mode, Commission Executive Secretary
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Te,fr. Stevens, 3otto-Inev General
Mr. Dennis •ge7n, .71c.p7'tv rlp-ae-a7
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Adoption of Co7'.isent Calendar :tens 1 throEc771 12, lz! throug71. 25, and 27 •
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PETERS SHORTHAND REPORTING CORPORATION (916-162-21,2
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sneak, T hope, has filled out one of these Tf you
anybody here that war-r-rts to sneak Co-rse-t Ts there
T7ra-rn7tT. IThairmar, with Your
wishes o-r TtPm NumbP-r that it be Calendar
, rlayP a note here that Kevin Eagen is here on 7tems two
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(7-TTRMAN mUCT<PR: qkPy, ,IPt's begin. WP hay",
of you are here as T understand everybody tiwho wants to
roepse till one out so that way we know who wants to
address the Commission. Hake sui-e. You f417 out o e of these
you want to speak.
TgP sta7-t out w4 t1- the Consent Cal e"""ar. mhos, are
items of which, C-1 through 20 -- whatever it is.
EXECUTIVE OFFICER WARREN: mwe-tv-ri-e.
CHAIRMAN TUCKER: Yes, 99.
And hems 29, and '3 have been taken off the
or any o. t7r2P items on ti-re ronsenf Calendar?
roe7-mss7r,,,n, Irecommend that inasmuch there is a person who
roved f- em ti~ se r-onse Calendar and put on the regulay
caTterr-rda-.
TUCKER: Okay. Tte-7, 26 wP'71 take up.
th-ough eight and Item 11.
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Mg,NX".t",4 COMMISSIONER ST?NCRLT,:
the berm existing at the
'015V7177',L believe the Redvelnnm:',rt
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the other consent items ol-her than Tt -7,' 25?
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CHAIRMAN TUCKER: Okay. Why don't we 4-aka, up TI-em
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a public agency -permit for the construction of a nrotective
str cure. Essentia77v, an extension of an 'ex sting aab4o,-,
There, an approximately 800 foot aabion berm has
baen perm'tted -as-,and now exist-s. bee-1,
successful in reducing erosion. This is an extension of that
c-ar-)ior wall, another addit-ional 1,600 feet.
Al? the reviewing agencies and Coastal Co=issio-
have annroved.
c-:1A-TzmAIN: TUCKER: Okay, and this was a subject of
City of Rancho Palos Verdes hearing Redevelopment Agency
7,ea-ri.ra or what?
EXECUTIVE OIRRTt-RR WARREN: Yes.
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CHA7RM-AN 771UCX7R: Okayois T, rue would you like
to speak on this item?
NIF1. 7,AR727: Y.es, but :low do 1 do it?
C7r___.~ M 777CKER: Well you can sit where you were
and speak, o- you (-ar,' stand
can "lea?- you w."7e,--eve7- You want .
, whatever. thin everybody
it's a pretty small
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rva-f-R!/*4 N m7C1C7R: Take Your time.
MS. TART SR: May I? mha-k 7011. have a whole
history to tell you about.
My name is Lois Larue, and 11('''.1 a Mas ter i s Degree
7-1T4sto,-y of Art P-''4 Architecture T_TriversitY of
Southern California, and taught this at the college level for
seven years.
FM here th-7's mor7r-i -ir-cronm 1-he Ptate 7,an
Commission about what is happening in Rancho Palos Verdes
-ar r he lid ifice
Catalina Charnel, and for which you are
resonsi-ble up t.(:, - ne mean hic7h
interest began 27 years ago when one- I moved to this
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they were shoot- na this water down into a
and began Lo threaten homes. The .F!,-70--mr7 8 Re,-7.--(,-,"2„7...-)7p-r ---
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roantine," pe=77::rted developers to place storm
the canyons leading down to ,n e, ocean.
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about the rape o- ,-arkerire Caryo7a ir this 1;MT-7iceicn, "The
monitor, a local newspaper Du J_ished in response
what the City of Rancho Palos Verdes is foirc7
As T discussed with them the rape of Ba-rkertne
Caryrr, T wondered about the canyon next to it, Altimara
Canyon. T rnilmhP,.9 ryi7e7r.t77ere and found a veritable Tou7ele7-
area.
The Abalone T'andslide, adjacent to Port'ine
Bend, where they now have put gat-ions, and which is the tonic
of our conversation t'-'s
7.et rr_e explain that my son _ a Doctor to in
rf-oloav and that wT,er he was a senior at USC, he discovered
that icT-e ancient Abalone Cove landslide had begun roving again
and reported this o the f°.- nt pa thP inr,P1
the Palos Verdes Peninsula News, with nhoto=aphn, 10,7z.
The city did nothing until there were heavy inn-veRr
rains in 1977, '78, when the devastation 'there to rs,-..(7-7--e
Agency, purportedly to stop the Abalone rove landslide and the
Portue-lecle Landslide which dates bRe..k tr-, 1955.
the too of 7ands7"de; if you suprort 07-InSqr7^C,
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dissertation on the TDortgues Bend 7arltii, sugc;estr,
four ways of man acing the 1 7ndslide; if you remove the
ndslide at the bottom; if you de-water; and, 4-F
olace a sea wall; you wi71 be able to manage the landslide
What concerns us is the formation of the
Redevelooment Age-c-J, because S_ho- 'y t'e-eaftr, -ceoole
in Abalone Cove sued the city and the County of Los Angeles, /
saving that it was actions cq-se ``?o re
landslide Lo be reactivated.
had sued successfully .'For $3 million, which T understand
throuah the aooeals process ende.0 4^ the Su__ f around $9
million.
The -,c,nc in NbaTone Cove thought t-hrsi
somethinr- and El' sa-- ,..--urnow, in 4-he, 7 .,2Cs Angel,s
Superlor Court, agreed a s,,i-t7em4.nt which the Deo-7,:le
were suina, 40 families, will receive thousands
their properties, and then the County of Los Angeles W77
this Redevelopment Agency and the City of Rancho Pales Verdes
$10 with which to "s ton the Abalone (7e-vp,
- against oroperties of 12a77=77 —
who 7ive in that areao
To me, that oes not represent due process or equal
7--notrtior f the lAt71 1,n2n-7ment of the J: iced States
e'071StfLI:tf01-1, c1"1-'wt of F arra4'.'clF
e sane grou r a- :- Tea., , --- ,ca
1-77 en'm --Laurnow, was aDrJoirted tb4s
, ec a e confli -
this suit is on agree D7nese7t
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meantime, this letter exnlains, after
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heavy rains of '77, '7, a -n-ofesso- at (7a'
Ehlig, be are 4nterested ir the Portu.auesP Bend lands14-1.e.
And he hPcamP the r_ _y (-1,o7ofTist.
If you read this article which I wrote, you'll
7777&=rrr9 OlPt, P' that time, there was ar Assitart Public
TP,7nks Director and the -,-ourtv was doira the geology fo -. the
ctv, whose work was in auestior, and, therefore -- he was
working for Rov Juraerser they sent zl,h,,1 to
7'1: 71 17: Car Abel 7a-tP'n became 7)7,1374c Works Director
Manhattan Beach ard, E sor recent7 y
'11 lie Abh t't is a perfectly cllarming Irishman. He
befriended the then City Manager., Galuzzv„ who evidently
mishandled $70, 00 and was asked to -nes-4 an. But while he was
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E.n_.g 4 nee-n.
sued him, but C7-lar7ie Abbott managed r')ITIehnI,J to becomP the
engineer theCitv of Rancho Pal oS yta-rs.
thirk of as the eryironmentalist, the Donald 71'""m"-'
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7.77,73Hcs, told
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MS. LARUE: Yes.
r'7AIRMAN 7=7R: -- because th74t's
asked to adf3.-rppq
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the citv that -g-?hey would lt inrove the -cad, Palos
Verdes Drive South, back to where it was originally, they
would not have to reai-r- that road for 20 or 30 vea7-s. rrlin
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was -7_,Trarr/a.
7f-,77 understand WP'11',=‘.bePrit ir droughtw fn-r" fr'0,17-
hears, but the road began to move. Ye wrote a Hero
Works DiT-ecto-n, who works for r'ha7-72.
a rate mare than Chief Justice Rehnc1-74st at
74-n had. Abbott understands nub; -crelations
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surreptitiously 4nvited, believe it wa.1
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aabions.
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ha-073P-er' to be BPar-h, at tl-IP Coastal
C07--Lissic's office - because Gar Goodson, erivi-rormetaTiat an
0-7 "7-7-7,=.1heq of "r--'7e Pac- fic Coast," am on ot:2e7- Stan-=7.07-f
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because there was no Environmental ImpPct Re-2-t.
this groun down there ard to 3 d o, it that
ea-,1 hem, and evidently Mr. z'ona, has received a copy of
re'Etin-g r esor-t cn the Portuguese Lands7ide.
We appePled this to the Coastal Commission, and the
Coastal Commission 'sound out that the Dort-guese Bend
landslide has a beneficial effect on the pollution oft the
coast ?pnchr, Dal es Verdes, . The 77,'nvi,-o-mPntal protection
Agency of the United States Government has declared its
intention to correct that nroI-lem n724-
In 1-7,..tez■ mo-rr.time the itv had core ahead and
declared an emergency when the x oad didn't etPv Dcs-r-7-v
Ehlig said it would, and qtarted nuttinan trio ata-i rP e We
appea7ed.
Now, on the materia7, excuse me, which the Coaf4ta'
Commission put out, you'll see the substantive file documents.
Please note that the Environmental Tmnact
to do with the aabin area, that none of those other reports
wou'd h:ave ' '!1=°P1'1 done if Gal- Goodson and T not annealed 41".
Tt was after fae,t.
In fact, in his rePo7-t here, Mr. l'e,--rard, who 4 g,
You want an oxymoron, it's Director of Environmental Services,
adnits that between September, '88, and January, 1989
cations were placed. And then he says the city issued a
coastal development pPrmit in pry 1989. So the‘
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abide y,.v the l?.ys of thP State (-,'f California.
The day that the Coastal Commissioners we-re down
T was in a van provided by the same Cbarlie Abbott, and
the 17'rector of Public Works said before we put the gabions in
we made sure they were on Rancho Palos Verdes
La ies and gentlemen, the Coastal Commission has
found that this iq cr St to and
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rT-TATRYA:',T TTTCvP;R: Is your contention -that there
7-..en an Pnvirnrme7Ita7 Impact Report ir
-1-Paar-'7s to the ement of the gPbions?
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CHAIRMAN TUCKER: And that's because you believe
they're doing some environmental damage.
MS. LARUE: Yeq.
TUCT7R: lne 4c1 that?
MS. LARTZE: Yesterdayl went down to the gabions.
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these gabions are ugly: they are liorrenr3ous. They 'aPve not
them under the new permit• w114 cb we were
instruiTtental in getting. Our appeal is moot,
allows th-m two veers, and tIlev tell tl-em this, vo” cannot T,qc.,
machinery in t'-le inter-tirlal area
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thPy are at huge 1J-3 re baskets fillpd
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The ,,,,- c4. you firsthand. 'f, have come
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n„, question to this State -fiends Commission is how
are L they (7o4rg to build the gabions when the Coaster
Commission w4 71 not permit them to use machinery? If 4F see
rock. The rock has to he tP=estriPi, it cannot be ir-frPr-
tdal. And a71 of these conditions in here impossible
fulf41.
CHAIRMAN mUr'7:77R: We", 4 F they them
then presumably they wcil't be able to it?
S. TA_RUF: of tl,at city, they' l' do a-whow.
That's what T'm tellinc= you. they've been doing this all
along. They got S2 21411 401- 'P-om he qi-atp. Now, site
management, explained to your removed the pressure on the
They did, they excavated one 71177i. ubic yards of
earth and brought it down to the toe o4' the s"14,'P. Okay?
eTATRMAN 7UCK7R: Okay --
MS. LARUE: Let me tell you then they so :d it
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c,471IRMZAN TUCKER: We11 r et e under-star your
position. Your position is that this has a negative impact on
the environme-it because it unattractive?
MS. LARUE: Because they havertt studied the damage
apart, people have been t?-Pr
And we are ard :"a C3 P,tjll ask a- have not.
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is recommending that the application be approved, but =f the
Commission 'oesn't -ortinne it after two yens, than
our apPlication would not
COUNSEL FIGHT: The Commission's lePse, ves.
ommissiom's lease would expire at the expiration of the
CHAIRMAN TT"rKRR: Thank you.
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sells all over the Place on ton of these aabions, you see.
Obviously this 4 C'' nothing t -tat
,onsideration. They try and mretend they haves but they
7rvinonmental Tmpact RPnort. They've giver them a two-year
Permit and we ask again, at the end of two ,,ears, we want a
Proper Environmental Impact Report. You know how important
they are.
rl-TATRMkN T7r7TR: mv understanunderstanding 4 c' that stPf
r'oPstal '-ommission's permit.
rwATRMAN TUCK7R: Okay. I think we understand Your
nos_ __Lon. Was there anything you wanted to say i n conclusion?
MS. LARUE: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN TUCKER: Thank vou.
MS. LARUE: I'd like to give each of you one of
these articles so understand wat's 1-!P3pPni_rg.
MS. 7.2'..RUvl: It's over or: the ric,ht.
CHAIRMAN TUCKER: Okay, is there anybody' elsP that
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The recommendation of the staff is that wP fin-7
their negative ("7ec7.a-ration, and that we atiit'ho7-i7e issuance of
a lease tL the City of Rancho Palos Verdes Redevelopment
AgPncv for fivP vPars, su"P-iPct to their bavi,nc7 to r-Tet. -^.,r val
of the Coastal Commission for renewal after two years.
Ts there any comment? Tsthere a motion?
COMMISSIONER MANNING: Move the items.
CHAIRMAN TFC-FR: Second?
COMMISSIONER. STANCELL: Second.
CHAIRMAN TU=R: Okay ' think a77
Commissioners vote aye on this. , the lease is approved
COUNSEL HIGHT: Mr. Tucker, for the record, we
can only have too votes.
CHAIRMAN TUCKER: Okay, well then --
COMMTSS'OR grnYkMELL: 1171 vote ave.
rHAIRM-AY TUCKR: Okay, 1'71 vote ave.
Okay, what is the next 4,-er?
EXECUTIVE OFFICER WARREN: I e T M ertp4r117.a-.
Item 30 is a general 7ppqp fryr 777kt-of-wpv use
three parcels of school land in the County of 7%,ae-.
'and n,-on,oser7 to be used for the construction and
maintenance of art overheard 69 kilovolt tr-a-rsmission
1-he, maintenance of an existing 7.2 kilovolt distribution li ne.
This is a segment of a corridor which the lessee l'aP
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sneak on this and I will think that the issue is as set forth
in our re -t, and I think we have to give time for these
folks to set forth their opposition.
You want me to call or do
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acquired for the purpose of upgrading the services it provides
thP service area. '?eprr-ts a-rf. -t1,.FAt the present servie e_'_'e
easily interruptible during seasonal weather and are diff4cult
area without access to electricity.
The pronosed line would, the line for which this
lease is required, will mostly go through the existing
utilities corridor. It is in a sparsely populated
estimates are about three persons per square mile.
All other agencies have approved. We are h- ere,
lease is required because it is to go through the school
lands. A map 4s behind You showing the segment of school
lanes which will be involved in the corridor. It is ject
to eminent domain in the event that this permit, or the lasP
is not issued.
CHAIRMAN TUCKER: What does that mean.?
EXECUmIVr' OFFICER WARREN: It means if we denied the
lease then the property will corderned, subject to
condemnation proceedings.
Now, there are a number of folks here who wish to
CHAIRMAN TUCKER: Yeah, I think I have the list.
in the-1 r Winnebago. the highway as they roar
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EXECUTIVE OFFICER WARREN: Go ahead then, you can
call than in the order as tT7ey appear to vou.
CHAIRMAN TUCKER: Paul Herman.
MR. HPRMAN: My name is Par,-41 HermFn. T
two miles north of the little green suuare there along the
route of the 7Dro7posed transmission line.
My objection is that this negative declaration is
based on this environmental assessment which is totall y
inadequatee and didn't take any input from the people that live
alone transmission route. And, there's a _L
consideration for things like the view of the tourists alone
I'm here speaking for the people that are going to
haveto live thing for the rest of their lives,
pretty m-r-h. - also -n ink that to declare no significant
ins ac's from a 32-mile long power line is just ridiculous,
gentlemen. And that's what you're doing 5y issuing a negative
declaration. You're saving there's no significant impact.
Now, i can't cite you the CEQA laws, but if you guys
rubber stamn this thing; T'rq going to find somebody w7.7-n, car
cite those laws and I'm going to hire them.
I'm not going to read my whole statement because -7
can't do it in three minutes. The people that live in Doyle
have serious objectiors to this. 77-. 2 alternatives
addressed really, they were just dismissed i-
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environmental assessment. They weren't analyzed, the costs
weren't analyzed, nobody told how much it
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a real environmental impact study
with public input, and that means public scoping. That means
that /ive there can tell the company what
to study. We don't want this promotional brochure. And in
the words of the California Energy Commission, this thing
looks more like a promotional brochure than a serious
environmental document.
Okay, that's all I have to say. Thank you.
COMMISSIONER MANNING: Dwight, were there
alternatives considered in the initial studv.
MR. H.PRMAN: There --
COlwmTSSIONER MANNING: T'm T'm asking our
staff member.
MR. SANDERS: Therewere alternativescr17-,qir9erer7, in
effect, three environmental documents. The Bureau of r.prld
Management did an environmental assessment an i ssued a ,70NRT
on the line . The Rural Electrical Administration did a rOYST,
did e-,v4ro-mP-tal assessment initiatiyr, TONST, both
which are eauivalent to a negative declaration under CE.Q.
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those documents, and did not feel they were adequate, and did
an indePerdent 'iudament checkli.st, strely, nd
PETERS SHORTHAND REPORTING CORPORATION (9167362-2345)
and cted issued proposed negative declaration which
was wielv Circulated and commented upon.
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= and comments also rroe the Energv
Commission and from the Department of Fish and Game.
The alternative question is somewhat complicated by
the fact that this issue and this project has already been
g,,oerior Court in Lassen County. The decision
from the judge in that particular litigation confirmed that
the line, as proposed, was the best line in terms of all
a ternatives nat were presented to ifle Court,
consideration of all of t7-se issues ware presented tn
Court at that particular time.
The ro 4,.r.t, as analv rct, was revised so V_-!at
it was a mitigated project nronosed negative declaration. as
a result of the cl-,ances to the project r7Ps'—ipt4on, star'
feels that we can legitimately make a finding based on the
evidence that we have because we 'eel there is no substantial
evidence to the contrary, that there are no significant
'7mDacts to tbe in 11 line.
COMMISSIONER MANNING: Thank you.
C7A7RYAN TUCKER: Our Chief rourlael'a
corivof the decision
Cooneratve versus Beckett, and in that the Court found that
the public interests and necessity require the project to be
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located in a manner that -,-ould be most compatible with the
public good and the -east private injury.
as this a condemnation action?
CHIEF COUNSEL HIGHT: Igre, sir.
MR. SANDERS: It was brought about as a result of
the condemnation actons that were initiated I-4V the -t4lit4es.
The action was brought y individuals within the area which
were objecting to the condemnation activities and asked the
Court, in effect, to have the utilities suspend those
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CHAIRMAN TUCK7R: Okay, is there anybody else here
who is a 7andwrer or other person who is object to the
project?
Okay. I take it the rest of the people are here
answer any questions that we might have?
That world be
tell you the General Manager of the utility is here if you
have any quest_LoL,s.
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further, that this might help the Com•ission's deliberation,
I'd like to enter a few items into the record that we just
received.
Fish and Game which indicates as a result of our formal
consultation with them the Ban!T Swallow, which is an
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P-7TERS SHORTHAND RETORTING CORPORATION (916-362-2345)
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P-int in time , they believe that the e-9kv
transmissionw41.1 rot affect the Bank Swallow.
would also into a "P4-te-
received from the State's correctional facility 4-/
indicates that they are 'n support the installation
of the line because of its service to them.
And then, 1. would._ alqr, l kr'
that we have received which contain the names of 102_
individuals who are in opposition the project and have
asked a va-riety of entities to take specific
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gDpf-ifcal7v, T,Psser., County to adopt an emergP-ncv
ordinance that would stop the project; numbPr two the Plumes-
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co- to suspend all work on the
transmission line including the eminent domain preceedircs;
three, that the Ru-a Electricc administration suspend fund=
or any consideration of the line; and four, that the State of
GovP-ror's office make a determination as to the
15kv project's compliance with the California Environmental
21_ And then lastly, 1- would like to enter int,
22 record a series 18 depositions submitted by Mr. Gary F.
4t, Woo"vP,-toTr;, 2_,tto.a...--ney.,at,Law, in SusanvilL,.., The
211 depositions raise issues as routing, health effe,-tg
"):7.7,„ line, and a--P-7at4 vPs.
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that. They're i-ust nonentities according
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CHAIRMAN TUCKER: And you've reviewed those?
MT , sir, we have. n
(7-TATR,MT TUCK R: Are .there ary r7,estic,ms from the
Commigsioers?
Okay Mr 7'Prmz--=7,, was there anything _l se You want.d
to add?
M?. 77RM;4 N: would like to 0-4- in
there's a le:_t.e2, of concern for the Bank Swallow. TTIerP's no
mention of the,res77derts, . he 17,,,,ople that live therP. They
should be mentioned in this document, and they're net
And it's assumed that nobody cares if they live next
to a big power t"-a7!S-nicic!-7 line. Well, I'll tell you, that's
wrong". There's a lot of -people that care whether they live
next to one and have to look at it, possibly -iskirlg
themselves and their health.
rr'U=R: Okay. Thank you.
COMMISSIONER MANNING: H cl se is the closest
residence o
MR. HERYkY: I d,n't know, see tha'-'s o7e the
t'714-1*-T -hat should addressed ir this re/Dort is how many
residences are within 1,000 feet of the center line of Pve-y.
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MR. SANDERS: Yr. Manning, I believe Ms. or someone
the Cooperative could answer that.
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CHAIRMAN TUCKER: Do you know the answer to that?
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feet?
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residences within 50 feet of the power line along the 32 miles
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Excuse me, I was just corrected.
are residences, and three are commercial buildings.
MS. CAHILL: Commissioners, we're cresenting this
small photo to give vou a sense so when you think transmission
line youdon't _-1.1-ne the giant lattice tower type
transmission line. This would be a wooden pole /4n= very
similar to the small picture You were -iust given.
mR. SANDERS: At this present time, Mr. Chairman,
the Public Utilities Commiss4on PxPmpts fno-
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lines be-7ow 200kv.
As such, this line is not within the purview
Uti7ities rommission or anyother electrically related
agency, including the Energy Commission.
CHAIRMAN TUCKER: Okay' . Anything elsP? Okay, is
4-1-er., a 'notion?
COMMISSIONER STANCELL: Move.
COMMISSIONER MAYNTNG: Second.
CHAIRMAN TUCKPR: Its =wed, secondecq. And there
are two votes, Mr. Manning and Yr. Stancell. That item is
a—c-o-ef.
What's the next item?
EXECUTIVE OFFICER WARRT7N: The next concludina item,
Mr. Chairman, is Item 31, which is the staff seeks
authorization to litigate for trespass and ejectment and
damages for unauthorized occupation and use of State-owned
'and, mainly a marina known as the Rainbow Resort, which is
located car State-owned land and submerged bj Slough
Andrus Island.
!-T-TATRYN mUnTq',R: Okay. cuestions _ this from
anybody? Is there a motioT,?
'-elmy-T-ss7-07V-PR (-"TANC,TLL: Moved.
COMMISSIONERmN-NING: Seco-id.
n7-71-rRm31',: TUCKER: Okay. 'Mr. Manning, Mr. StPrcel'
approved the itPr. Okay.
T'..YPCUTTVT-7 OFFICER WARR.T2N: That conr'1,1dPs 7-7274-
portion of the mePting, nhairma-.
r-cr -RmAN mUnK7R: Do we have an Executive qessio-?
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mUn77R: We have a nT.1mbr of thi_ngs. We
request the vacation of the room.
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and for the State of Califorlaia, do hereby certify that
7 am a dis*rteirPstPd person 1-,ereir; hat T reported the
foreoir,g 5.7t miss-7 on meeti-c of th,.
California ir shorthand w,-4 tingnd -herPP"ter caused mv
shorthand writinc- tc be transcribed into typewriting.
tint e certify' that 7 am not o" cnursel or
a-tor-Lev for any of the parties to said meeting, nor in
any way interested in the outcome cf said mePt4n-.
TN": TATTTNEg!:.7 WHEREOF T have hereun set my tan as a
Certified Shorthand Tie_ otter onthis c_91j d,,3_ of r',,r=tcher,
199n.
Doris m. Bailey Certified RPne-)rter
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