Public Program, Agya chakra. Caxton Hall, London (UK), 18 December 1978.

Today we are talking about the sixth chakra called as Agya Chakra. The gya,gya word means to know, gya is to know. And A means the whole.

Agya chakra also has another meaning. A-gya, agya means obedience or toorder. It can mean both the things. If you order to someone it is an agya and theone who obeys the order is an agyakari. The one who does the agya.

This sixth chakra was created in the human beings when he started thinking.Thinking is language expressed.

If we do not have a language we cannot think. But it does not mean there is nothought coming into us. If we cannot express it, it does not mean there is nothought process working in us. But at that subtle stage when the thoughts arecoming to us they are not in language, so they are not communicated to us, andthats why if we do not have language we cannot understand what we arethinking.

Thats why you must have seen children cannot communicate to us what theywant because they cannot say what they are wanting. They feel the urge in thestomach and they want to ask for, say, water or something, but they cant say itto us, and thats why they cannot think what they have to say about.

But afterwards when you start thinking and putting it into language, thatlanguage is stored in our brain as shown in the picture on the left hand side andalso on the right hand side of that yellow and black, then it comes back to us as,later on as, thought waves. As if somebody is talking to us.

But before the language starts, we can call it the inspiration or the thoughtprocess, at the very early stage, comes to us in certain forms, and those formsare in light and shade. They are not in language but in light and shade. Andafter coming to Sahaja Yoga if you go deep into your thoughts youll find theyare nothing but lights and shade that are covering our Agya chakra.

One after another a light and shade, like a circular lighthouse, they give a kindof a pattern in our head. Now these patterns are moulded into language by us ata very early stage and these are sort of filled into the cups of language and then

these cups are kept reserved in the brain and they come to us that way. When wethink we really understand because its a language that comes to us.

So what happens to the animals? Do they think or not? They get a thought, aninspiration but they wont be just thinking about it. Now, these inspirationscome to them as words when they start living with human beings. So theseinspirations go into the thought again as we do. For example you give somebodya name, say you call him say Tom, or something you call a dog so now heknows that this word means calling me. So he connects himself with that word.But when he does not have the word, when hes just an animal, hes just there,he doesnt think. Thats why they are very spontaneous and we are not. Animalsare extremely spontaneous because they do not think the way we think. Andthis has created the greatest problem for human beings: how to get beyondthoughts.

Its a little complicated thing because perhaps I can see that very clearly, as youcannot see the light. And then the light forms the language, and then language,according to us, becomes our thoughts. But these thoughts are reallyconditionings on us and they are not inspired things. They are not coming frominside and thats why we are not spontaneous.

For example if I am sitting here, now I cannot keep quiet as a human being. Illbe thinking about something. Ill be thinking, What am I going to say? ThenShould I say this or not? What if I say this, will that be alright or not? Willthat go to their heads or not? All sorts of thoughts will be coming into My head.Then from one side I will be questioning myself. From the other side theanswers will be coming, Alright you say this and if you say like this they mayappreciate you. Go this way that way they will understand. Like that you see. Sothe sorting out goes on in our brain through our experiences of this lifetime ofours.

Whatever have been our experiences in this lifetime in dealing with people ingetting experiences from others: all these are conditioned into our brain and thewhole thing becomes a thought process, which comes to us through thisinteraction of thought and action, action and thought, which just starts waves which action to take, what thought to be put in, how to solve it and we think weare analyzing ourselves. Its a very superficial thing. Actually you do not analyzeanything whatsoever, you do not. As I told you the other day you do not doanything.

So your thinking is nothing but a bubbling going on. Because when, like a seaeven, which is, so deep down, so quiet when it touches the shore it has aaction and reaction. In the same way when you are seeing at something,because your attention is outside, immediately a thought wave is created out ofthat, which goes back and gives you all the images about it, whatever you knowabout that particular thing and it comes back to you as thought process.

Its going on all the time, and it can be so maddening that we cannot stop ourthoughts: it just goes on like mad. You dont know, you cant sleep becausethoughts are coming. Sometimes they could be horrifying, sometimes they aregratifying, sometimes romantic, sometimes absolutely negative, sometimesvery positive. Sometimes you feel I must do this, sometimes you feel Ishouldnt do this. But when you [are] actually doing you do not think. Itssurprising, we never notice that when we are doing that particular thing,supposing I say I am going to speak, these things. Now when Ive thought aboutit that I thought say about 10 minutes before when Im speaking it, I am notthinking that what I was going to speak. Because that time I think Ive built inthat process of thinking into my brain and put it somewhere stored and then,now, when I have started this talk, that is coming direct to me.

So human beings have developed, I should say a process, which can be a verysickening thing, very, very sickening. And this comes out of both of these. Is onethe left side that we call the ego, which has gone this side, and the right side wecall the superego. All the conditioning on the right hand side of the superego, is,gives us, the fears, the dangers, the possibilities. Whatever we have experiencedbefore. As they say those who have been burnt by milk also [will] take a colddrink after blowing it a little. Because you have been burnt you know somethingliquid has burnt you so you think this may also burn your tongue. So you maytry to do that. It is so spontaneous that time that you feel that, Oh it is veryspontaneous, but it is not. It has been stored before in your experiences andsomething there that you are afraid of and thats why you do it.

If we, once, realize that this thought process is absolutely not necessary for us toexist. There is no need to have any thought about the future or about the past ifyou want to exist as human beings. Animals do not bother. For example animalsknow that they are going in a jungle. Now suddenly they find some other animalcoming from there and they know that you go there. Now whats the use ofthinking about the animal that is going to come? Supposing it does not comethen its such a waste. But they have a hole here and they no problem as we have

because have a hole the whole thing goes out. It doesnt stick for more than aminute here. But you can condition them also. By experiences they areconditioned. By experiences that they have had so far, about other animals andthings, they are conditioned. And they act accordingly.

So theres a tremendous dierence between us and them is that we think abouteverything. I mean, we think it is a very great thing to sit down and think aboutit. And we think it is very wise to sit down and think about it. Any problemcomes in you think, Better sit down and think about it. But now what do we dowhen a problem arrives? We think about it in relation to whatever we have beendoing before and whatever our experiences have been. In the same way theywant to think about Sahaja Yoga.

Now you cannot think about Sahaja Yoga. First of all you become thoughtlesslyaware in Sahaja Yoga to begin with. You cannot think. But it is a happeningabout which you cannot think. It is a living happening, thinking is a deadmovement, it is not a living movement. Whatever [is] dead in us comes back tous as thought. Inspiration is living, not the thinking. Inspiration is verydierent from the thought. For example, books are in the library, everythingthat we have thought of or have got it or experienced this is in the books.Whatever is new coming to us is the inspiration. Now just find out how manynew things you are thinking, perhaps not even a sentence. Mostly you say thatThis gentleman said so, That gentleman said so, That gentleman said so,or I said so. If you can think about that is coming just now into you, you donthave to think for it, it just comes out, it is inside you, it just emerges andexpresses itself. So that is the spontaneous living thing. That is what we call asinspiration: is a sudden glimpse of the knowledge that we get. But whatever wehave [been] thinking about is all the play of the dead.

So this is a centre of Christ. He resides in the centre of Agya, and He is, in theDevi Purana if you read, was born long, long time before, was created muchearlier and how He developed into Mahavishnu also you can read it for yourselfbecause its a big chapter and I wish you all could know and read about it andfind out how He developed into Mahavishnu. It is very interesting. Because allthese things were written in Sanskrit language, we should not say thatMahavishnu was not in the Bible, because Bible itself was not written at astretch by one person. So that part is a part of Christs creation before He cameon this Earth as Christ.

Actually Christians do not know anything about His becoming: how He becameChrist or what was the need to have Christ or a son to come down [and] why notGod Himself could do the job. And this is the reason why I would request you toread for yourself the incarnation of Mahavishnu by which you realize whyChrist was born.

And it is the most important incarnation because He is the principle, He is theprinciple of creation, the tattwa, as they call it in Sanskrit language, He is thetattwa. Ganesha, though resides in the Mooladhara gradually evolves to beChrist at this stage. From that red chakra up to this chakra He becomes Christ.He is the principle.

Now what is the principle? Within us what is our principle? Is, say, theKundalini you can say. In this (microphone) the electricity is the principle ofthis one is. In the same way the creation, the whole creation if you take it assuch, it is the principle and the support of this creation. He represents theessence, the essence of creation.

Like we can say we have a family, husband and wife and the child. Now the childis the essence of husband and wife, hes the essence of the family, of the house.The whole thing is sustained for him, is created for him. Till they did not havethe child there was no meaning to that house, no meaning to their life. Butwhen they had a child then they had a meaning. In the same way, Christ is theessence, is the tattwa itself.

Hes the Omkara as they call it. He is the first sound, first sound that was created Om when the Primordial Father and Primordial Mother separated, Theycreated this sound. And He is that sound which is filled into All-PervadingPower and looks after and supports. Actually it is more the support becauselooking after is done by the Father you can say or by the Mother. But is thesupport of all the Universe.

And because He is just the essence, the essence never dies. Say My essence isMy Spirit, it will never die. The body dies or the creation will die but the essencehas to be there. If the essence is lost then nothing could be there. Thats whyHes the most important incarnation, because He is the support.

Now this incarnation is placed in this Agya chakra of ours, here in the centre,where the optic nerve or optic thalamus cross each other like this. In the centre

is a very subtle point which moves both the sides like this and like that and itcreates two sounds hum kshum, hum kshum, hum kshum. Hum is onthe right hand side where you have seen the superego is there and kshum is onthe left hand side where the ego is. Now these two sounds create two kinds ofvibrations. The hum sound creates the vibrations, which make you think, Iam, I am hum, I am. This comes from our existence power that we know wehave to live in this world, were not going to die. Any human being who tries tokill himself is abnormal. Normally every human beingwhy every animal orany living thing tries to retain its life? That is through this power of hum, that I am. Now the superego on the left hand side and ego on the right hand side iskshum.

But now Ill tell you about the right hand side superego. In this superego whenyou are conditioned by so many things, then you are frightened and you areworried because these experiences make you that type of a person which hasfear in the mind. And this fear is all settled in your superego. This starts fromyour amoeba stage you can say and is, still today, is being stored there. You areafraid of police, you are afraid of that, you are afraid of this. Some people are notafraid of these things but are afraid of something else, because whatever havebeen your conditions, whatever have been your experiences, are all put downhere.

Moreover when somebody reads the book of Dracula now hes afraid of the wordDracula but the children who do not read they do not know what is a Dracula is.If you say Dracula has come they say, Alright, lets have a look at him! Butthose children [who] have read about Dracula, they are literally frightened andthey say, Oh God, Dracula is coming, something terrible is going to happen!

So you see whatever you have read, whatever you have gone through whateverexperiences you have had all is in the superego. So this superego in that, thiscentre, sends [this] message, I am, you are, you are, hum, hum : dont beafraid, dont be afraid, you are.

So the people who come to Me, and you have seen some people who come to Meare victims of superego conditioning. And these are the peopleactually at thisstage only, you can really discriminate between the two types: one who are veryaggressive, the other who are absolutely we should say subordinated,frightened.

These people when they come to Me, I have seen, they go on crying andweeping, Mother you know this has happened that has happened, and I reallyget tired talking to them. And there are so many of this kind that really you haveto pay attention to them as sahaja yogis because youll have to deal with them,how to manage them and how to work it out. Now at that time if a sahaja yogisays, now you go on saying hum, hum, hum, hum, a sahaja yogi, if he says[that], then the vibrations will drive out his fear. Even if you are under any fearand you are walking around and you feel that theres frightened, you just sayhum, hum, hum. Now with this saying the vibrations will clear out this sidevery nicely. Apart from that, that is the way you can get help from the Divine bysaying hum.

Now there are many things about hum and kshum but as the time is you know,so I do not want to go into great details about it. But I would say the mantra forthe right hand side is hum and for the left hand side is kshum.

The right hand side is the ego, which is real problem, you understand that! Is areal colossal one you have to face them, I mean, [if] I say anything small hereand there I find the whole thing coming up onto my head like that. So what isthe solution for a colossal ego? Colossal ego can only be conquered by forgivingothers.

Those who have ego must learn, if they feel hurt they must say, forgive. Thenanother person hurts them, say, forgive. And not only forgive but ask forforgiveness. Both things should be done, more asking for forgiveness. You haveto ask for forgiveness if you have too much of ego. It is very important. Becauseif you have too much of ego means what? That you have pampered it too much.That means you have used it too much. You have dominated people and thatswhy you have such a lot of ego. If you have such a lot of ego you must all thetime try to humble down in your heart.

Now in the heart resides the Spirit. The ego, too much of ego in a person, alwaystakes you away from that Spirit. Thats why it is said, Humble down in yourheart. The reason is, in the heart resides that part of yours which getscompletely obliterated or forgotten once you start pumping up your ego. Butego has its limits, it ends up into stupidity and foolishness. You take any personwho is egoistical and whos blowing his own trumpet, you will immediatelyknow because hell be stupid, without understanding what hes doing, hell bedoing such stupid things that you will start wondering, especially children,

Whats the matter with this fellow? Seems quite funny! And then thestupidity, you see, faces the person then he sees for himself, Oh God! how didI become so stupid?

But stupidity comes to you because you forget the existence of God and yourrelationship with the Whole. You think, I am on my own. Why should I not dothis? What is wrong in this, what is wrong in that? I should do these things. Imean in this country the way people are fighting for things, I mean, you must,anybody, I mean, those so-called developing countries cant understand: whatsthis kind of a thing happening to these people? Because the other day My son-in-law Luv was reading an article that people are demanding now that a son-in-law should be allowed to marry the mother-in-law (laughing) , and he justcouldnt understand how can people gather together and ask for such an absurdthing like that. She is your mother. How can you say that way? I mean it issomething an impossibility for people, normal people to think like that, that ason-in-law can marry the mother-in-law. And what is there to make a law aboutit and to talk about it. Its a very dicult thing.

All kinds of stupid things we are doing in this country, which really makeseverybody roar with laughter. Is because of our Mr. Ego companionship.

It is not easy to understand how he befools us. It goes on befooling us all thetime and then we think whats wrong? An eighty-year-old man running after atwenty-year-old girl. And the twenty-year-old girl befooling this eighty-year-oldman, supposed to be a statesman this, that and his statue is erected somewherethere. How is it possible? It is only the ego makes you do all these nonsensicaland stupid things.

Once you are in Sahaja Yoga, you dont know how to control your laughtersometimes, the way people are foolish, extremely foolish. And this is what it is;it ends up in stupidity absolute stupidity. I mean even if you want to write anovel you wont get such beautiful characters as you could around you, whenyou listen to them. And youre shocked, Oh God whats this going on! Andvery embarrassing too, extremely embarrassing. And they become so foolishwith their ego that one cannot understand how thinking man, because bythinking you get your ego, becomes foolish.

There is no wisdom in a person whose ego is completely developed like that. Ifsomebody has an ego like that there is no wisdom in him. You can see that he

does not know what is wisdom. He behaves in such an immature way. He maybe an elderly man, great grandfather of somebody but as soon as he opens hismouth you are shocked at him. You think from where this joker has come? Thematurity is completely lacking.

The other day somebody told Me that, Mother how is it our parents are sostupid and we are searching God? And the elderly people are so foolish and weare searching God? And then I said, No, maybe because of war the parents aredisturbed, you see. Most of the parents were disturbed during war and theysaid, Majority of them are like this. And the younger people are searching Godand much wiser and we dont know how to compromise with them because theyare not searching God. Why is it they are not searching God and we aresearching God? And if there are some searching, they are very few. Now I saidthis may be due to war but somebody said, Then what about America? You see,in America the people didnt face war so much, the stupidity that they have issometimes surprising. That is the same thing as I said, is the development ofego in a human being.

Now ego is the thing that makes you think about everything. For example, nowwe have to, say go from here to Birmingham, alright. So we think now, how willI go? Simple way is that Ill take a train or Ill take a car and go away. If theresno reservation needed I will just jump into the train or go by the car. If the car isavailable Ill go by car or by train finished! What is there to think about? ButNo! Then we must plan it out, I have programmed! Now, I have to go! You go tothe station and find the train is not there because there was some accident sothe train is not moving. So youre absolutely upset because you think that Thetrain has gone now what to do.? In that upsetting you do not even rememberthat you have a car and you have to go by the car now. That whole thing upsetsyou because you had plans to go by train and you had planned everything, nowyou cannot reach there and what will happen? Now you are sitting here andworrying about it. As a person who is spontaneous what will he do? Alrightdepends on, I may go by train or by car whatever I feel like at that time. Hessitting tight. So he goes to the train, sees if the train is there. If it is, nicelytheres a space available, he gets into it. If the train is not available, alright, hecomes home takes his car and goes away.

So now you have informed the people that you must meet at such and such aplace. Thats also is there, you see. So those people are running up, down there and they will be there at the station. Now whats the matter? Even if theyre at

the station you can meet them at the station. You go by train and you can meetthem. What is there to be that much upset about it? You see you can alwayscontact them. But the way we get upset we have spoiled the complete programof going to Birmingham, which is a very beautiful program that we have got. Wehave to meet new people, we have to meet many people, we have to enjoyourselves. Thats all finished! Because we had planned something and it did notwork out, we are finished!

All these things make us a miserable person. And we are so miserable and sogrudging and so boring that those who are next to you just get fed up with it andthey say, Now shut up! If you are not going to Birmingham, if you are not goingdont go. But dont eat my head now! is a common experience of many. Its thisMr. Ego hes so, he doesnt want you to be happy. He doesnt want you to berelaxed. He all the time gives you ideas and tells you, Do this and do that andyou must get it done and this is to be done. You had better inform that person,be meticulous about it, and it will go to such details that anything fails you arefinished because your nerves are already finished and shattered. Anything,even a drop of inconvenience comes into you or even a feather of disturbance isthere, you are finished. And so everybody is rattling, We have tensions. Wehave problems. Why?

What is the advantage of doing all these things? No advantage you know that.But then why do you do it? Because you have a big ego, it wont allow you to rest.Whatever you may try it wont. So what is the solution of that? Morning tillevening ask for forgiveness from God. Pull your ears from both the sides andsay, Oh God, forgive me. Oh God, forgive me. And, oh God forgive me, so thisballoon of ego goes down a little.

Remember Him morning, evening, every time. Remembering Christ bringsdown your ego very much. He did everything that was possible that you shouldnot develop your ego. Everything that was possible. He was born as an ordinarycarpenters son, lived in the most ordinary conditions, kept Himself behind thewhole scene. He could have been born as a Roman Emperor. He could havebeen anybody there. But no He was born Himself. You know that He took hisbirth in a place where even ordinary people do not take their births. But, therealso the light was there. Wherever He was born there was light and joy.

And this is the thing we have to know, that we have lost the joy because we haveforgotten God Almighty. When we forget Him, that He is love and He is joy,

naturally joy is also forgotten. And then we see people are not at all happy; theyhave auence, they have money, they have everything, but still they are nothappy. All the time they are in such a mess that you dont know how to talk tothem. If you say this word theyll be angry, if you say that word theyll be angry.They are not at all normal human beings, they are sick people. Sick with theirego.

Is a very simple thing is to ask for forgiveness, but how many times do we dothat? Not even once a day, not even once a month, not even once a year. Even ona Christmas day if we could say, Forgive us Oh Lord for whatever we have doneso far. It will work out. But that day we must champagne to forgive Him more.So we must have gossips and we must have all the arrogant things by the time itis the end of Christmas.

This ego, yellow side one, is the one that presses your superego too much. Itdoes. It presses it so much sometimes that a person forgets that others are hurtby what they talk. On the contrary they devise methods how to say things whichare cutting, which are hurting, which are painful to others. They say suchthings, I mean all the time if you see, a person say from a village if he comes andsees hell think, are they quarreling, what are they doing? I mean the wholediscussion, even in the parliament, I was surprised the way they talked to eachother, no bull will treat another bull that way, you see. Even a dog normally doesnot bark at another dog. No animal in the world all the time is barking at itsfellow man. No animal in the whole world I can tell you this much. Only thehuman beings if two people are there all the time they are going, ha ha ha haall the time, that way. How is it possible? His ego and her ego or maybe both hisego are dashing at each other. And there is a kind of a funny type of feeling thatOh I have mastered the thing, I have got the thing, I have got the point. I haveproved the point. But in that I have lost everything that was so beautiful and somuch joy giving within me.

Actually a sensible person would recede from the place where two people arehaving an argument.

Argument is a sign of tomfoolery. I havent seen any argument coming to anyend whatsoever. If it is then it is alright, but it never does come. Because, if say,you ask Me questions I answer you, alright. If you do not like the answer give itup. But if you argue with Me still and I argue with you where will you end?

Argument is not going to lead you to any knowledge but a very terrible egodeveloping into you.

The whole modern concept is ego-oriented. All western countries are ego-orientated. They want to develop your ego and pamper it. There are so manyother ways by which they do. Why Im talking more about it [is] because we areall supposed to be western people and auent people you see. Supposed to bevery wise and leading or misleading, I dont know, the developing countries. Sowe have to understand ourselves where are we as far as our understanding ofthings are concerned.

How ego is pampered within us is by a large-scale methods. They work on yourego throughout to have all these so-called enterprises. For example to a womantheyll say, Oh you must have a waist like this and you must have a face like thisand you must have For a man, You must this kind of a body. You should beMr. Universe or you should be something, so the man starts working on it,immediately. You must. There so many people I have seen running on the roadsin this cold, I dont understand. Like mad, you know, and some of them areMembers of Parliament! The whole night they keep awake and the whole daythey are running about. I say what are you doing? What is the need to do this?To keep good health you must do it. To keep good health dont work like mad,be a sensible and a wise person. Wisdom is to be sought to keep good health, tobe alright and not this kind of mad ego-orientated things.

So then, the one way is to excite your ego about your physique. Then there is egoabout, you must have a big car. You see, people try to show o their possessions.You have a big car, then theyre going about. I mean they really look, to Me, likejokers. Thats all they are. I mean, car I can understand is a convenience and agood quality car, if somebody can aord, should have it, because it is aheadache to have a bad car. So its alright. But by having a car you becomesomething great. You may not have food in the house but you must have a verygood car to go about. And all these ideas come. Then they will advertise, yousee, This will be a very good car for you. What is it for you? It is nothing but topamper your ego. All these advertisements are nothing but by which your ego ispampered. All these things they are created.

Now in America, if you go, every handle has to be dierent, every thing has tobe dierent. Why so much dierence in everything? Why do you want to haveeverything so dierent? Is it some aesthetics, you think in that? It is none of the

aesthetics but is just to pamper your ego. Even the so-called art connoisseursare nothing but ego-pamperers. Your stamp collections, this, that all this isnothing but ego pampering. And what a waste of time, you just think about it.

This ego thing comes into us because we are, first of all, as I said, that, in theWest, the living was very dicult, they had to fight the nature. And when youhave to fight the nature you have to develop your ego to fight it. Or actually,when you are fighting the nature, the ego develops within you. And then, oncethat momentum has started in you, it is very dicult to bring it down. It is sucha terrible disease that people have taken it for granted that thats a part of theirlives.

You are not your ego. You are not. When I say that you must surrender yourselfto God they say Mother why should we surrender? Yourself means that egowith which you are identified. I dont say that you surrender your wisdom. Or Ican say: surrender your ego to your wisdom.

But it is so dicult to give it up, because we have learnt to live with it, identifiedwith it. We just cannot think of life without our ego, we just cannot. And it isgone to such an extent that we dont even realise how far we have gone incruelty. Like, I like this kind, I like that kind. You go to somebodys house andyou say like this: is indecent to talk like that. It is vulgar to express, I likeWho are you? Are you God? I want this. I want that. I am very particular aboutthis. I am very Who are you? Just ask yourself a question, Who am I? I am theSpirit. I am that eternal being. Have I become that?

On the contrary we are hurting everybodys Spirit by our ego. Every moment,when we talk to others, we are hurting them. Actually people have lost faith inGod, because those who are in charge of God are so arrogant and so egoisticalthat it has become impossible for anybody to think of God, which is beyondyour ego. Youll be surprised, ego is absolutely superficial like a bubble. It is justlike a balloon, which can burst just like that! And it should go. It should go sothat you should rise. It should disappear so that your attention rises in yourSpirit and that you see the whole world as a part of that Spirit that you are. Thisis the boundary, which you have to cross and for that we have to take help fromChrist.

Christ crucified himself. Why? Because what did He do? Did He loot people?Today you have thousands of these thugs coming here and looting you: nobody

crucifies them. What did He do? He just challenged the ego of these Romansand of these Jews, those who were angry with Him, and thats why He wascrucified.

And we have to crucify our ego now through His cross, otherwise we are going todo the same again to ourselves that, in our own being, we crucify our Christ byour ego. It is a very symbolic death of Christ. His birth in the most humbleplace, in a very humble place. He is born in the optic thalamus, you can say: isthe place where there brain, all activities coming and, all the, all sorts ofproblems there, facing you, and there He lives. And you have to just awakenHim there so that your ego is crucified once for all.

But I dont say, You fight your ego, because it is not that important to fight.You are fighting with your shadow. You have shadow, which is called as ego:Which is not to be fought and to waste your energy on him. Theres no need tofight him. Only thing [is], if you stand in the centre of the light you dont seeany shadow. It is so simple as that. If you stand in the centre of light that isChrist, you dont see any shadow anywhere. But when I say this I may sound likeother people who give sermons, Stand in the shadow of Christ or Stand inthe light of Christ. Now what does that mean? Where is that light, where is thatplace where you should stand? And that place is here in the centre of your opticthalamus where there is no thought. You have to stand in thoughtlessawareness.

Many people who have had a problem with Agya, many people who havecome(interruption in talk)thoughts will stop and they will be beyondthought. And this a very, very important chakra for sahaja yogis because whenthe Kundalini rises above, above the Agya chakra immediately there is nothought. You do not get any thoughts from ego or superego. But there is awobbling in the Agya because of your imbalanced ways. And the imbalancedways are, that sometimes you are with ego or with superego.

This has happened to our people in the West because we have had so much ofego [that] we got really tired of it. We got frightened with it. Then we startedtaking to drugs and things to increase our superego. But by doing that, what weare doing is pushing by one end and bringing by another end and thats how weare wobbling our ego and superego, by which we are not helping ourselves at all.

So what one has to do is to rise within oneself up to the point of Agya and try tosteady your Agya.

There are many people have asked Me one question: How to steady the Agya?Agya is placed at the crossing point of our nerves and also optic thalamus. Now,so it is said that, if you have wobbling eyes, youll have a wobbling Agya. Youhave to steady your eyes, you have to soothe them. Now it is very, very out ofdate, ancient, old and all sorts of names that you call it, to a thing like that, butyou must steady your eyes and steady them in such a way that it is verysoothing for the eyes. [That] which is the most soothing thing for the eyes is thegreen grass. If you could see the green grass with your eyes, means you walkwith your eyes on the ground, your eyes will be soothed, your Agya will bealright.

Thats why Christ said that, I tell you about the adulterous eyes. He talkedabout adulterous eyes. The eyes with which you do adultery. Is a very commonthing these days. Every woman, a man must see; every man, a woman must see.As if it is the most important job, if you have not seen one woman you arefinished! I mean this is being modern. But I am an old fashioned lady, and, as atthe time of Christ, He said, You should not have adulterous eyes. And the oneswho have adulterous eyes are, no more than any other, but our WesternChristians, who all the time, even in the church, even when theyre givingsermons, their eyes are moving with adultery.

These eyes have to be very, very pure, very, very deep and very, very lovingwhen you want to have your Agya alright, because you receive through youreyes. Say, if you have closed your eyes, you do not put your attention toanything because your eyes are closed, you are not adding more thoughts toyourself. But if your eyes are open you are adding much more thoughts becauseeverywhere the eyes go, the attention goes, and you see things and createthoughts and put in them. So your attention which has to go to the Spirit, whichhas to go to God, which has to shine through the window of Divine: thisbeautiful thing is ruined by the way we use our eyes and we do not respect it.

Theres nothing so pure and beautiful as the grass on the ground or the grounditself, which takes our feet, which supports us, which looks after us, enriches us.We should put our eyes on the Mother Earth instead of looking at every person.

But from Sahaja Yoga point of view, now many of you know what happens toyour eyes when you look at somebody: maybe an entity might enter your eyes.And it is, youll be amazed, that it is the play of the entity what we call this so-called flirting is. I have talked about it, before also, and people didnt like itwhen I told them about it, but I have seen actual entities entering from eyes toeyes. I have seen very simple people who come down to such places, say in aparty. In a party, people are just exchanging entities from one eye to another.Once it goes to another person, he puts his entity into another person, and thatgoes into another person. All the time your attention is diverted and you feel itis attracted towards something, you do not know why it is attracted.

Now the certain symbols are also made like that. To add up to the problems, yousee, all the society is working at it that you should appear in such a way thatevery man should look at you, every woman should look at you. Why? What isthe use? Supposing I look at you what do I get? What do I get by looking at aperson? What is the advantage? Just looking at a person? We are wasting such alot of energy for what?

In the same way if you are walking on the roads, on, say, some, we are seeingsome beautiful things, alright. If you have to buy something, alright go ahead,see those things, whatever you have to select is alright. But all the time justbecause your eyes are such, you are just doing it and you do not know thereason why you are doing like this, all the time why your eyes are wobbling. Andthat is a sure and certain sign for a person to become mad. Absolutely, thats asure and certain sign is, when a person is mad how do you make it out that aperson is lunatic? If you see his eyes the iris in the eyes are all the timewobbling, they cannot keep it steady. Or [if] they are sick theyre also, you cansee that these eyes are all the time wobbling, there is no steadiness.

Not only this but you have seen those people who have come in the Sahaja Yogawhen they close their eyes they find their eyes are flickering. Their eyelids areflickering. That means theres some sort of a disturbance in the Kundalinirising. Whole tension if you call it as hundred then at least 80% of it comesthrough our eyes. Then how important it is to protect our eyes from all kind ofuseless activities we are doing.

Christ Christs life shows so many aspects of how to respect others. But one ofthem which has been very much misused throughout is that of the prostitute.He saved the prostitute, He saved her no doubt. But you spoil the prostitutes. A

good woman you make her into prostitutes. You give her ideas by which shebecomes a prostitute. A good hussif (housewife) is turned into a prostitute by anegoistical man. Young small girls who are virgins are being destroyed by yourdirty glances. Do you realise this? That you are doing just the opposite whatChrist had done? And you say that He saved, Christ, so even if we are prostitutesHell save us. But why be prostitutes? This is such a stupid style of thinking.That we should become prostitutes so that Christ will save us.

One has to think about all these things in the proper light of Sahaja Yoga. Unlessand until you are realised, My talk is just useless for you. But once you arerealised, you will know that, if you glance at someone, you might suddenly get aheadache at the back, you might feel a dart has gone into your head orsomething has happened, you might feel that youre blinding with somebodysface and you will get all kinds of experiences by which you will know howimportant are your eyes.

All your nervousness and everything can be cured if you have pure eyes. But it issuch a vicious circle that, through your eyes, you gather all the bad, and isaccumulated in the Agya and you have to clear the Agya to make the eyes clear.Its a vicious circle. But it can start at a point as I said, we have to ask forforgiveness. Secondly we have to bring Christ in our Agya chakra. Thirdly wehave to give up all drugs and all intoxicants and all smoking.

That happens automatically when you are a sahaja yogi, it will work out. Buteyes express the whole of your being, your brain, your body, your limbseverything. And if your Agya is alright then your eyes are perfectly alright. Theyemit nothing but love wherever they glance. Only with a glance of your eyes youcan raise the Kundalini. Only with the glance of your eyes you can cure people.Only with your glance you can bring joy into the destroyed and the ruinedpeople.

So these eyes which you see are the windows of your being, of your heart. Whenthe Spirit is expressed through your eyes, you must have noticed yourself that,when the Kundalini rises then the eyes become dilated. And a realised soul hasgot black eyes because they have these eyes are dilated. At least when I see themthey are all dilated black eyes. Apart from that, a realised soul can be made outby his eyes which are sparkling, theres a sparkle like diamonds; they sparkle allthe time and you can make out from the eyes that this person is a realised soul.Theres a tremendous dierence between a non-realised souls eyes and the

realised souls eyes. So you can imagine how your Spirit sees through your eyes,but if the eyes are not pure It doesnt stay there long. So if we have tounderstand Christ, physically, we have to respect our eyes, mentally, we have togive up all that is impure in our mind.

Now, so we come to the impurities of the mind: And the impurities of mind are,I mean, there are so many poisons, you know, about. I mean there are books andbooks written about the poisons. And the psychologists are supposed to take outall your poisons. I dont know if they can do it at all. But they have the worstAgya. All these psychologists have the worst Agya and I dont think they arecapable of really giving any relief to people who are suering mentally. Mentalsuerings are of two types. Say the same thing is that one isvibrations are somuchOne type of mental troubles are where people oppress you very much,you see, you go on bearing the cross! Now this is a very wrong idea people haveabout Christ. Bearing the cross doesnt mean that, anybody who tries tooppress, you should go on taking the enslavement upon yourself. Youre not toenslave to anyone whatsoever. Anybody who tries to make a slave out of you,you should deny it absolutely! You should say hum, I am, Who are you todominate me? Anyone whether you are of a black skin, or a red skin or a yellowskin, nobody has right to dominate anyone in this whole world, and if anybodyis doing it, Oh what to do now, after all you see we are poor people, or we arelike this or hes supporting, and all that: then they are running away from theirduty towards themselves. Such people cannot get Realisation. Slaves are notgoing to become kings.

So the slavery that is supposed to be confused with bearing the cross is anotherconfusion of modern times, you see. We have to rise in our self-respect and wehave to understand that no one in this world has a right to dominate us.

But then what is bearing of the cross is? First of all the people of His level neversuer. Its just a joke going on. Its a leela, its a play going on for them. Theynever suer, and even if they so-called act as suering, they just do it becausethey want to do it. They are not helpless people, they are not slaves. And thosewho think that by bearing it up and by suering it we are becoming Christians,they should know they are psychological cases. And if they are crying andweeping and all the time saying, What to do, you see, I am in love and my lovertortures me. You are neither in love neither you have a lover. It is a kind of apsychological clubbing. That he is a dominating man and you like hisdomination, thats why you are together, is a simple fact.

So every human being has his own self-respect. And he must respect his selfthat is the Spirit within him. And nothing should dominate it. Whether youbelong to this country or that country, or this ism or that ism. All this will breakdown. Under the rule of God nobody has the right to dominate anybodys Spirit.But when you are given freedom, you go to the other side that is Mr. Ego. You donot know how to use your freedom, so you try to dominate others. Your freedomis [making] everybodys freedom is in danger. You are on top of everyone, andtorturing everybodys souls. And you are dominating by land and by propertiesor by possessions. So either this way or that way, mentally if you are of thiscategory or that category, you are against yourself.

Just be in the centre and see for yourself. Just be looking at it. Are you emittinglove towards another person? If you are a slave, how can you love? You cannot. Ifyou are free and abandoned, how can you love? Love has its own bondages,very sweet and beautiful. You have to live with them. You enjoy those bondages.For a little child will come to your house and he will spoil your house, no doubt,and that he should do, and you should enjoy that spoiling. Then your freedom,if it is challenged by a little childs crying, then you are not wise people. This isabandonment! Or I would say it is loneliness, it is cutting out from thePrimordial, from the Big One, from the large one that you are: is not to be able totolerate the freedom of others. A child has no freedom to cry in the house? Whatsort of freedom you conceive of. A mother has no right to say something shewants to say about her child? Which is her duty to tell him what is right andwrong. If the son does not have [the] right to eat whatever he likes in his ownmothers family then what sort of freedom do you have? Its such a confusion ofthings.

So this kind of freedom is just the opposite and extreme of enslavement. But inthe centre is love where you are bound by everyone. I am bound by My children;yes, I am, I am proud of them. They bound Me and I bound them too. Its amutual bounding which we enjoy among ourselves. There is such a give andtake when there is such a bondage of love. But do we understand theimportance of bondage of love? At the slightest pretext we break it. Say a wifesays, I would like to go out today. The husband has said Why? I am very tireddont you understand? Or if the husband says, I feel like eating something, orsome particular thing, he says pancake or something, a small thing. Oh I amvery tired every time you are demand If she could just think [that], by makingthat little thing, he would be so very happy. She should be dying to know whathe wants. And he should be dying to do what she wants. And then enjoy each

others company or you are wasting all your properties that you have as humanbeings.

You dont know how much you are wasting from each other. Every moment isfilled with such beautiful bondages, where exchanges are there. What have yougained? The way you are fighting, the way you are going about: what have yougained let me see?

When you die you have to announce in the paper that XYZ is dead and youfind there is nobody. And you have even to pay for people to visit you when youdie. This is the case today. Such dryness, such emptiness, such loneliness exists.What have you achieved through this?

So this bondage we have to [have]. And there is no question of sacrifice you see,the way we must sacrifice for the family. What are you sacrificing? I mean if youpay for your family you get the joy out of it, thats why you do it. If you have tolead a nice good life you are not sacrificing anything but you are gaining by that,leading a good life. If your wife says, Dont go to the pub, and if you do not gothere, then you should not say, She is an orthodox, old fashioned this that, thatand that and that. But instead you should thank you stars that, in this moderntimes also that, there is somebody whos telling you the truth. Because thewhole edifice has come up, do you mean to say that truth should not be told? Allthis is falsehood in which you are living, and if you have to be happy comedown to Reality.

Friends, also same thing: With the friends what sort of relations do we have withour friends? What do we expect from them? Sending them a Christmas card andthen if they dont send, feeling bad about it. There are no deeper bondages, wehave not lived with them. If you allow our self to be bound by them, they will bebound by us. You better try this. Try to be bound by them, dont be afraid ofanybody else. Just try to be bound by others and youll be amazed how muchthey will be giving you. I am a living example of this. I can tell you, I am a livingexample of this; I am bound by all of you. If somebody says, Mother when areyou going to leave us? No I cannot. I cannot. I am just bound by you. I just donot want to leave because I love you very much. How can I leave you? Itsimpossible for Me. So then, what do I gain out of this life? Every thing that is in this world!

What do you want Me to get? I cannot even count what I can get out of it.Immeasurable ocean. I become an ocean Myself. Break your ideas about yourown personal freedom and liberation, [what you are doing] is liberating yourintelligence, you are liberating your own wisdom. And the sweetness and thebeauty which is never perishable, whether you are old or young. That is going tobe your own.

But these poisons that are being built outside and inside you, please throw themaway. These are mental poisons. Through Agya you can take them out. You see,this is an opening also through which many things go out. Try to work it out.Look at the tree with love and youll find that the tree itself is giving you the joyof its creation. Because youll become thoughtless. And the Creator who hasmade that beautiful tree will be pouring all that joy which is stored into it. Everyhuman being is a store of joy, unlimited! I assure you, believe Me. And dontwaste them because somebody is not properly dressed, or hes not according tothe way you want him to be: which you learnt in your public school! Everydoorstep, everywhere there is beauty lying, do not miss it. But if you have apossessiveness about it, an adultery about it, then you can never enjoy them,you can never enjoy all that beauty, all that store, all that wealth that is in everyhuman being: every moment it is bubbling.

For Agya its a good thing, Christmas is coming. And at the time that, when Ihave to wish you a Happy Christmas, that, at this occasion, I am speaking aboutAgya chakra in which, what I said is, Agya is: one must know what to order andhow to obey, obey the Divine, obey your elders, obey your Self and not your ego and then you can order also others; not only human beings, but you can evenorder The Sun and The Moon and all the winds and everything in the world.Everything you can control, everything with this Agya. You try one thing. If youknow somebody is going to do something wrong, just take his name and put itto Agya: Hell not do it. Try it! This is a trick Im telling about for those who arerealized souls not for those who are not yet realized. But those who are realizedcan try. If the other person is doing something wrong you can try your Agya.

Anything you order on your Agya will be respected but your Agya must haveChrist there. Because you have The Great Support awakened within you, whichdoes not exist [only] here, but into every mans head. It is all pervading, into allsmall atoms and molecules, it is everywhere into The Sun and any place you go.It is there.

So try to develop your Agya, that is the mastery of your self. Those who have agood Agya can master anything. And understand that the idea about masteringworldly things and mastering human beings and mastering this and some ofthem are mastering in, say, other crafts and things, best thing is to master yourAgya! And you really become the master of yourself by which you can mastermany things.

And today on this great day when Im wishing you a Happy Christmas, I wishyou to have the most powerful Agya, that people, when they see your foreheadshould know that Christ is reborn again with in you.

May God bless you!

H.H. Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi