Refill HP 802

Refill HP 802 Cartridge

This is a very detailed piece of information meant for beginners. If you have some

experience with refilling inkjets, just skip the introduction.

Please read the precautions before attempting a refill

The HP 802 cartridge series is a relatively new series of cartridges being

manufactured by HP.

This cartridge is available in India for use in three printer models HP 1050, HP 2050

and the wireless HP 3050 (any maybe others).

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HP Wireless Deskjet All in One 3050 (Print, Scan, Copy)

About refilling cartridges:

Many people have doubts about refilling their printer's cartridges because of

extensive claims being made by manufacturers regarding quality, printer failure, void

warranty and a host of other reasons. Please follow the blog to the end to find a

reasonable answer to all these reasons while we first get on with the process of

refilling for the impatient ones. But just be assured that the process is completely

safe.

About HP 802 Cartridges

These new cartridges are available in two variants -- SMALL and LARGE.

Refill HP 802

Refill HP 802 http://refillhp802.blogspot.in/2012/02/refill-hp-802.html

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HP 802 Small Black Cartridge

Ink Yields*:

HP 802 Small Black [CH561ZZ]: 120 pages

HP 802 Large Black [CH563ZZ]: 360 pages

HP 802 Small Tricolor [CH562ZZ]: 100 pages

HP 802 Large Tricolor [CH564ZZ]: 300 pages

*These yields are measured under standard conditions using an ISO testing suite (a

set of pages printed repeatedly until the ink finishes) and these yields are rated at a

coverage of only 5% of a page.

Want to print images and high density text? You could be running out of ink a lot

sooner than expected.

At the heart of an 802

The way these cartridges work is that they have a sponge inside the cartridge (and

that is what takes up space inside the cartridge, there's no complicated circuitry

involved). When the printer signals the cartirdge through the contact pins, portions of

the head heat up forcing the ink from inside to outside and onto the paper (hence

the name "thermal inkjet")


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The sponge removed from an HP 802 Small Black cartridge.

This sponge (from a small black) measures approximately 3.5 cm * 1.5 cm * 1.5 cm

and is inside the cartridge and this is the thing we'd be operating on while refilling

the cartridge.

You'll now understand that increasing yields is only about increasing the size of the

sponge and injecting a few more ml of ink -- for which the HP guys are charging us a

fortune.

Anyways, the job we're supposed to do is getting a syringe needle into this sponge

and injecting 1.5 ml (small black) or 4 ml (large black) of ink into it.

Refill Process

Take out the black cartridge from the printer and peel off the top sticker from the

cartridge to expose the refill hole(s). [Don't worry if you damage the sticker label

since it is not necessary to put it back after refilling]


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802 Cartridge after peeling off the sticker label

The numbering stands when you hold the cartridge with the golden circuit

strip facing away from you.

Holes 1,2 and 3 have the sponge immediately below them and it is one of

these three holes that we will use to refill the cartridge. Please DO NOT use

HOLES 4 or 5 since you'd dumping ink straight into the container and

probably will damage the cartridge.

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Use a standard refill ink brand and any syringe.

A 250ml bottle of black pigmented branded ink should cost you anywhere between

Rs. 250 to Rs. 350. 250ml is sufficient ink for more than 2500 pages.

1) Fill up a syringe with 1 to 1.5 ml of ink.


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2) Place the needle in HOLE 3 of the cartridge

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3) S-L-O-W-L-Y inject ink into the sponge. Make sure you take 20-25 seconds to

inject that 2 ml ink since it needs to get distributed into the sponge. Making it fast

would probably make the ink leak out of the head risking damage of circuit. MAKE

SURE you place some tissue below the cartridge since some ink is bound to flow

out while refilling.

4) Remove the needle and cap the syringe.

5) Clean the head portion of the cartridge with a tissue paper for any overflowing ink.

[Don't use too much force, the head is a fragile part]

6) Place the cartridge back in the printer and allow it to stand for 5-6 hours before

you attempt printing. The ink needs to reach near the head before you can properly

print.

Precautions

1) Do not touch the metallic ink strip or allow any ink to reach that portion or you'll

damage the circuit.


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2) After refilling, empty the syringe and insert the needle one by one in hole 4 and 5

and pull to suck out any ink that's overflown into the cartridge from the sponge.

3) Do not insert a cartridge into the printer while the ink is flowing out of the print

head [bottom part]. Absorb any excess on a soft tissue paper

4) Do not wipe the head with anything except a soft tissue. You may use Isopropyl

Alcohol to clean that portion. Printhead is a very delicate part.

Cost Comparison

Refilling cartridges is a very cheap option when compared to buying a new cartridge

every time.

I've been using this cartridge for more than 8 months now. It's a small black 802

which I've refilled way too many times to remember.

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My printer's total page count shows ~ 2100 pages. Discount the 100 pages that

were printed with the starter cartridge, I've been able to squeeze out 2000 pages

from a HP 802 small black. AND it's still going on.

Small Black costs Rs. 425/- and prints about a hundred regular pages making the

cost of a print Rs. 4.25/-.

Compare this to a refilled system, assume a page output of 2500 pages per

cartridge -- it would cost you 1) A cartridge (Rs. 425/-) and the refill stuff -- syringe,

ink bottle, tissue (~ Rs. 300).


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Refilled ink would cost you Rs. 725 / 2500 pages, that is approximately 29 paise per

page.

Refilled Yields

My personal experience is that a refilled small black would last 40-45 pages so if

you're into heavy volume printing or you can't bear refilling too frequently, I suggest

you get a HP 802 large black which has a significantly larger sponge. Refilling a

large black would require approximately 4-5 ml of ink.

Expected Problems

If you get no output OR streaks of black after printing from a refilled cartridge,

remove the cartridge from the printer. Cover the holes with some clean cloth and

blow air into the cartridge. This would force the ink near the head. Wipe off any

excess ink that comes out of the head and then try printing.

I have updated the FAQ(s). Please read.

Posted 19th February 2012 by Refill Man

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vasista choudary 18 March 2012 06:20

I've filled my HP 802 tri color small cartridge with wrong colors(Magenta inplace of Yellow & Yellow in place of Magenta). This was the first time I'm refillingmy cartridge & I've done wrongly. All my printouts are getting mismatchedcolors. How to solve the problem ? Please tell me

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Refill Man 23 March 2012 10:30

@Vasista

I would recommend that you print out as many pages as you can sothat the ink in all the color sponges is exhausted. Then, refill thecartridge with the correct colors, print a few more pages and then tryif the cartridge begins to print normally.

I will try to attach an image that has all the colors.


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Read the FAQs. There's an image that'll use all the colors. Maybe that shouldhelp you.

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Sanoj 30 March 2012 09:56

I have used refilling method using syringe and has printed about 1200 pages.The problem I faced was saturation of sponge, which was overcome by inksuction tool from ebay. Both the inklevels has shown empty. I have nowinstalled CISS on this unit and now the printer prints a separator page at first ofevery job. How to solve this problem?

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I am using the syringe method on large black cartridge and myprinter (Deskjet 3050 Wireless) prints a seperator (totally blank)page at the starting of the print job.

I am myself trying to find out the solution to this but I recommendthat you try aligning the cartridges once and then try out if it works.

BTW: Where did you get the CISS from?? Please let me know sinceI print about 100 pages a day and its really a headache refilling itevery day.


Please email me the link for the CISS [email protected]

Thanks

Rahul 14 July 2012 10:33

plz i need the ciss too.. [email protected] plz mail mei have hp deskjet 2050 with hp802 cartridge

Masters 15 April 2012 06:58

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Masters 15 April 2012 07:01

please also guide us for 802 tri color small cartridge.

which color in which hole?

how much qty of ink each color.

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Refill Man 18 April 2012 07:21

I will create a dedicated page for the 802 colored cartridge shortly.

For the time being, just read the blog on how to refill and here are the specificsof the color.

Hold the colored cartridge with the single hole facing farthest away from you.

The left hole (choose any one of the two) gets Red / MagentaThe topmost (single hole) gets YellowThe right hole (choose any one of the two) gets Cyan / Blue

Inject 1.5 to 2.0 ml of each color respectively for the small cartridgeInject about 3.0 ml of each color respectively for the large cartridge

Allow the cartridge to stand for a few hours so that the inks reach the head.

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ABC 9 May 2012 23:06

Please guide what if1) Ink is injected in hole 1 or 22) Excess ink is not sucked through holes 4 & 53) Attempted to print immediatelyThis question has come because, I could not print any page as blank papercame out when I have refilled and when got refilled with a professional, thesame cartridge printed properly! of course with a warning stating that thecartridge may be spurious! Solve the puzzle that the same cartridge prints whengot refilled by a professional re filler and not when done with a syringe

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Refill Man 10 May 2012 04:33

@ABC

For small cartridges, ink must be injected through 1 or 2 since the sponge liesimmediately below them and not below 4 and 5.

Any attempts to print immediately will give NO OUTPUT.

The reason behind this mysterious puzzle is that we are not using an "Inksuction tool" to force the ink to the head while the professional refillers do use it.

How it works it that they put it on the head of the cartridge and suck some ink.Due to pressure change, the refilled ink reaches near the head immediately andyou can print immediately.


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When you do not use that tool, you can't print immediately because then the inkreaches the head by action of mother Earth's gravity with isn't as fast as thesuction tool.

Please look at EBay for 802 Ink suction tool if you want immediate prints afterrefilling.

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Sanoj 10 May 2012 08:20

Refill Man, have you tried the CISS?

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No Sanoj, although I was initially very fascinated by the idea, Idropped it. Will try it sometime later. Thanks for the link :)

pp 13 May 2012 04:06

can any ink be used ( Camel etc used for fountain pen) or is there a specifictype of ink that needs to be used?

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Only Inkjet specific inks can be used with the cartridge. Please don't try anyother ink (however cheap it may be). You'll only end up damaging the cartridge.

250 ml of inkjet ink (InkTEC Brand) would cost you Rs. 250 to Rs. 300.Probably enough to print 3000 pages with the 802 cartridge. Cheap enoughtisn't it?

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abhijeet 15 May 2012 03:12

my printer is deskjet 10501.the black catridge is not been recognised by the printer after refilling as it isnot showing the estimated ink level is it damaged? or is it normal for hp not torecognise catridge after refilling2.after refilling nothing is getting printed ?? what may be the prob is itdamaged?

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1) If your printer doesn't recognise the cartridge (i.e. if the cart. isdamaged) then it would show some kind of blinking lights.

2) If that is not the case, fill up the cartridge as much as you can(without leaking any ink) and then let the cartridge rest overnight inthe printer. This way the ink will reach the head by action of gravity.If your cartridge is OK then the next morning you'll be able to print.

jaskanwar 16 May 2012 19:26

can we reset the ink level of hp 802 catridge showing in "estimated ink levels"on monitor?

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I don't know if its possible. Anyways you can print without the estimated inklevel monitor showing ink in the cartridge :)

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Sanoj 19 May 2012 21:09

From where you get inktec ink? What is the price? Is it pigment or dye ink?

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I got it from Nehru Place, New Delhi. I bought a 250 ml bottle for Rs. 200/-. Onthe bottle, it says pigmented ink but I really don't know how to spot thedifference between pigmented and dye based ink.

One more thing. This InkTec ink is not waterproof.

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brijesh kumar 24 May 2012 23:50

I flow your reffiling step succesfuly but after refil 802 black cartridage it's onlygives me printing only in best paper quality mode it's does n't work in normal orfast draft printing mode plz help me

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First of all make sure you fill the cartridge fully.

Allow the cartridge to rest overnight in the printer. I had similar issues. Eitheryou leave it overnight or if you want instant prints, then you will have to buy anink suction tool that will bring the ink near the printhead instantly.


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Look at EBay if you want the suction tool or try the overnight method andplease post whether it worked.

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Sanoj 26 May 2012 11:38

I have now realigned the ciss tubes to the other side and the problem of printingseparator page has gone !!!!. Its now working fine just like a laser printer - noworry for refilling again n again.....

The ink suction tool from ebay is worth buying since you can print instantly afterrefilling. I have tried this before and is well satisfied. It costs about 325/- onebay.

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sanoj can u send me the link of suction tool on ebay plz...

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Sanoj 29 May 2012 11:52

I had purchased an empty CISS for HP. I got the suction tool alongwith that kit. A similar item is now present on ebay. See the linkbelow.http://www.ebay.in/itm/HP-INK-SUCTION-TOOL-PRINTER-

CARTRIDGE-818-900-901-801-BLACK-AND-COLOUR-/251071340988?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_203&hash=item3a7504a1bc#ht_1169wt_1139


thnks bro..


plz add the page of refilling of hp 802 colour catridge..i can't understand u wrotebefore in comments.

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Dhirendra Pratap Singh 31 May 2012 01:55

Please show us how to refill hp802 tricolor cartridge with the help of a picturebecause here only black ink cartridge is shown to be refilled.thank you.

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Refill Man 3 June 2012 09:44

I've added the page for refilling the colored cartridge. Please dohave a look.


I'll write the tricolor refilling process very soon. I'll be free in two days. After thatI'll add the page.

Thanks for all the interest in my blog~!

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Anupam 9 June 2012 09:20

Hi,Am told that HP 61 cartridge is compatible with HP 1000 Deskjet, which usesHP 802 cartridge, is it true?Second, can any refill kit be used to refill 802 cartridge, or it has to be specificfor 802 or 61?

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As far as I know, HP 61 cartridge is for the Americas and won't becompatible for the printers made for India. Why are you interested inHP 61 anyways?

Yes, any refill kit can be used to refill the HP 802 as long as the typeof ink and the suction tool are compatible. In my opinion, there's nospecific kit for generic cartridges such as 21, 27, 802, etc., becauseI have used the same ink to refill 5 different HP inkjet cartridges andthey all work fine.

Rakesh 10 June 2012 11:00

My HP 802 small catridge wont work after being refilled.It has ink but print onlyone or two lines and goes blank.Is there any possible way to force the ink out?

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Yes there is. There is an ink suction tool that you attach to the head at thebottom and then pull the plunger to force ink to the head. You can find it at EbayIndia for as low as Rs. 350.


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Hirak 12 June 2012 00:13

Same problem as rakesh...is there any other way to do that except buying thatsuction tool..??? Cant i do it at home somehow..???? Plz help..

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Rakesh and Hirak

There is one "jugaad" way to force the ink out. Cover the 5 holes on the top witha clean cloth. Then force air with your mouth on the cloth. This will createpressure and force the ink out. I used this way until I had the suction tool.

One more suggestion. Suppose that your cartridge gives 40 prints on a refill, Isuggest you to refill it after 30 prints. This way you won't go "blank". Printing

blank seriously damages the head since there's no liquid to absorb thegenerated heat.

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rahul raniwala 18 June 2012 00:37

thank you very much for useful info.

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Ramesh 2 July 2012 03:55

Can anyone confirm the quality of print after refilling?

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Ramesh 2 July 2012 03:59

@Refill Man

Should I buy this ink:

http://www.ebay.in/itm/115-ML-BLACK-PIGMENT-INK-REFILL-KIT-HP-802-818-CARTRIDGE-MRP-349-RS-/230816793239?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_203&hash=item35bdc0c297

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Refill Man 2 July 2012 07:06

Yes, you can. Sounds like a fair deal.

As far as the quality is concerned, you won't notice any difference.

PS: I tried very hard to notice but couldn't (at least for the black cartridge).

For the colored ones, you will definitely get a difference.


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Hope that solves your doubt.

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Dew 23 July 2012 00:05

Thank you Refillman, the instruction along with pics were very helpful and Imanaged to refill both the black and colour cartridge. Although there is somesmudging in the printouts, everything else is fine.

A few questions, the last refill for me lasted around only 20 printouts, I have aHP small and refilled it with 2 ml and the printouts were high volume, but withthe same type of printouts the original cartridge lasted much longer, is it normalfor refilled ink to last less than the original?

Also how to find out the total no. of pages printed so far, as you have shownabove?

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Refill Man 23 July 2012 02:57

Thanks for the appreciation!

Yes it is true that refilled cartridges give less output. Please read the post "HP802 Large Advantage" for the comparison on refilled and new cartridge output.

The total number of pages can be found out in case of the HP 3050 WirelessPrinter by going to the link of the embedded web server.

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Radhe Vajrakaya 5 August 2012 07:19

Hey REFILL BODYGUARD thanks man for the entire process you helped meand all the people visting your blog very much yaar.

Thank you man my entire problem of refilling is solved truly INDIA needs peoplelike you who share their views and knowledge with others it makes other peoplelife eas.

Thank you x 100000000000 = Thank you

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Refill Man 5 August 2012 19:08

Thanks for the appreciation sir :)

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Hello, please tell me how to see the TOTAL PAGE PRINTED COUNT IN

HP DESKJET D1668 ?

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Sanoj 23 August 2012 10:30

You can use papercut print logger, a free software to count thepages printed by any printer. It is free for upto 5 users.

goog 25 August 2012 22:08

thank you friend

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Anonymous 25 August 2012 23:52

Brother, I have 3 questions;

1. Can I place "802 large" in the "same slot of 802 small"? Or should I change/alter the placement slot? In earlier printers we could not use colored cartridgewith the larger version. Is it still the same and we can not use colored cartridgewhen used with Black Large??

2. I had wrongly filled up the 802 small cartridge from the other side by drilling ahole in the rear wall (Well now I have blocked it using mseal). I am still notgetting the prints. DO you think the cartridge is now damaged?

3. My Inktec Ink bottle is old say about 5 years. Hope I can I still use the ink?

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