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Refutation on Zakir Naik's Deviance - Call ing Allah w ith other nameslike ' 'Brahma'' Full I NVESTIGATIONby Islam El-Hoseiny on Wednesday, 2 November 2011 at 05:25

INVESTIGATION I NTO THE LITERAL MEANING OF BRAHMA IN SANSKRIT LANGUAGE ACCORDIN G TO

OXFORD SANSKRIT ENGLISH DICTIONARY AND OTHER DICTIONARIES

Note:- This investigation is purely directed towards clarifying the meaning of 'Brahma' in the Sanskrit -language as

opposed to what the hindus regardthe diety they worship ('Brahma') as. This is to make clear that there is a baseand original meaning to this word ('Brahma') which is other than what it is commonly used for or understood as by

Hindus and others besides them. This will further highlight the ignorance and misguidance being espoused by Mr.

Naik.

On Brahma

[literally(means) 'growth', 'expansion', 'evolution', 'development', 'Swelling of spirit or soul '] pious effusion or

utterance of the heart in worshipping the gods.The Brahma or one self-existent impe rsonal spirit,the one

universal soul (or one divine essence & source from which all created things emanate or with which they are

identified and to which they return).

The self existent, the absolute, the eternal (not generally an object of worship)but rather of mediation and

knowledge;

Brahma or the one impersonal universal spirit manifested as a personal creator and as the first of the triad of

personal gods

1. Brahma, m. a priest (see asura-, kn-, mata-br0); n. the one self existent spirit, the absolute, R

2. Brahma, in comp. for brahman. - observe that in the following derivatives the nom. m. (Brahma ) is used for

impersonal spirit and the nom. m. (Brahma) for the personal god.

Oxford Sanskrit-English Dictionary

The Clarendon press

Sir Monier W illiams M.A, K.C.I.E

Hon. DCL OxON, Hon LLD Calcutta, Hon PH.d GOTTINGEN, Hon Fellow of


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Univers ity College and sometime fellow of Balliol College Oxford

with the collaboration of

Professor E. Leumann PH.d, University of Stausbugg

Professor C. Cappeller PH.d, University of Jena

and other scholars

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Sanskrit English Dictionary by V.S. Apte

Brahma The Supreme Spirit

Brahman 1. Relating to Brahman or the Creator or the Supreme Spirit.

2.Brahminical, belonging to Brahmanas

3.Relating to sacred knowledge or study

4.Prescribed by Vedas

5.Holy, Sacred, Devine.

Page 396.

Brahmavath a. Posessed of spiritual knowledge.

Brahmanee The wife of Brahman

Brahmaan a. Relating to Brahma- m. An epithet of Vishnu.

Page 394.

By V aman Shivram Apte.

Address: 9th Main, III Block, Jayanagar, Bangalore 5600011.

8, Mahalaxmi Chamber, Warden Road, Mumbai 400026.


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ISBN- 81-208-004403 (cloth)

- 81-208-0045-1 (paper)

Introduction written by V.S. Apte ,

Place: Poona

Date: 15th February, 1890.

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Sanskrit English Dictionary by McDonnell.

Brahman Supreme Universal Soul,

The chief god of the Indian Panthon ( being the latter personal form of the vedic impersonal absolute deity, which is

neuter);

Arthur Anthony McDonnell, Oxford University

Press.

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Sanskrit English Dictionary by Vidyasagar.

Description : Sabda-Sagara or a Comprehensive Sanskrit-English Lexicon, chiefly based on H.H.Wilson's Sanskrit-

English Dictionary

Brahman The first deity of the Hindu triad, and the operative creator of the world.

2. A Brahman

3. The superintending or presiding priest at the sacrifice.

4. One of the astronomical Vedas.

5. One of the principal servants of the Jinas


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6. The devine cause and essence of the world, from which all created things are supposed to emanate and to which

they return, the unknown God.

7.The practice of austere devotion. Holy knowledge.

Pandit Kulapati Jibananda VidyaSagar.

First Edition, 1900.

Page 520.

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Coming to the English-Sanskrit dictionary, I found the following .. This should clarify w hat the literalmeaning of Brahma is? Its not 'The Creator' but rather it means 'The Supreme Spirit' in the language.

However its not our concern if the diety w hich the hindus w orship is referred as creator, my intent is to

only show t hat the literal meaning of Brahma is something other than 'The Creator' because this name

has been made permissible by Zakir Naik to Call Allah Ta'ala with.

English Sanskrit dictionary.

Description:

This lexicon offers effectual help to the student, in practicing translation into the best Sanskrit for modern

expressions and idioms, with their several equivalents, and different shades of meaning. It includes as many terms of

religion, literature, mythology, science, as would lead to a correct knowledge of oriental customs, habits of thought,

religious tenets and ceremonial observances, which ultimately enhances a reciprocal sympathy between the East and

West.

Author: Sir M.Monier- Wi lliems

Published: Motilal Banarsidass Oct 1989ISBN: 81-208-0454-6

Observe the word Creator and you will find various different words in Sanskrit for the word Creator but Brahma

is found to be nowhere. So the translation of

Creator a. Uthpadakah, Dhata, m.


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Vidhata, Sruk, SrushtiKarta, Bhavanah, -(Of the World),

Jagadkartha, Jagadsashta, LokKrut.

Page 145.

But if you check the word Spirit , this is what you will see.

SPIRIT:

1.Aatma.

2.(The Supreme Spirit) B rahma n.

3.In modern translations of Bible the Holy Spirit is rendered by PAVITRATHMA.

Page 765,

Monier Williams English Sanskrit Dictionary.

Bunglow Road, Jawahar Nagar, Delhi, 1100007.

24 Race Course Road, Bangalore, 5600001.

120 Royapettah High Road, Mylapore, Madras 600004.

ISBN- 81-208-0454-6

Preface: East-India College, HaileyBury, November 5th, 1851.

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Shaikh Falah Isma'eel was asked about Zakir Naik's statement after his dars on Aqeeda Wasitiyyah of Ibn

Taymiyyah (rahimahullah) The following was his response.

The Shaikh said: Even if they are the names of Allah(in that particular language), the origin of it(of these names)

indicate to the names of Allah in that particular language; the origin is that if those two names are used upon (hindu)

gods it is NOT PERMISSIBLE TO USE THOSE TWO NAMES.The Shaikh mentioned, the Arabs in Jahiliyyah before the coming of the Messenger of Allah (Sallallahu alaihi wa

sallam) they used to call their gods with names that were taken from the Names of Allah like Al-Laat from al-Ilaah ,

Al-Uzza from al-Azeez and al-Manat from al-Mannan. All of this is from Ilhad. Even though these names have been

derived from the Names of Allah it is impermissible to call Allah by them since they are used upon the gods , idols of

mushrikeen...


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And some of the scholars mentioned about the statement of Allah.."..... and leave the company of those who belie

or deny His Names". From Ilhaad is (also) to name the gods with the Names that are taken from Allah (i.e. the

Names of Allah).

[Ibn Katheer (rahimahullah) said: Al-`Awfi said that Ibn Abbas said about Allah's statement,"and leave the company

of those who belie or deny His Names" 'To belie Allah's Names includes saying Al-Lat (an idol) derived from Allah's

Name. Ibn Jurayj narrated from Mujahid that he commented , 'They derived Al-Lat (an idol's name) from Allah, and

al-Uzza (another idol) from Al-Aziz'. Qatadah stated that Ilhad refers to associating others with Allah in His Names

(such as calling an idol al Uzza). The word Ilhaad means deviation, wickedness, injustice and straying....]

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Shaikh Salih al-Faw zaan (hafidhahullah) On The Names And Attributes Of Allah Sub'hanahu Wa Ta'ala

Shaikh Saleh al-Fawzan (hafidhahullah) states in his explanati on of Aqeedah al-Wasitiyyah:

And they do not deviate with regard to Allaah's Names and His Signs [by denying them or holding on to deviant and

heretical ideas about them]. They do not enquire into the exact nature of His Attributes and neither do they make

comparisons between His attributes and the attributes of His creation.

Explanation:

(And they do not deviate with regard to Allaah's Names and His Signs by denying them or holding on to deviant and

heretical ideas about them]...).Ilhaad in the language means bending and turning away from something. From it

comes lahd which is the niche in the side of the grave into which a muslim is placed . It has been named as such due

to its deviation towards the side of the grave. Ilhaad with respect to Allaah's Names and His Signs means deviating

and turning away from their realities and their correct meanings towards falsehood. Ilhaad is of numerous types:

The First: When idols are given the Names of Allaah such as the derivation of al-Laat from al-Ilaah, al-Uzzaa from

al-Azeez and Munaat from al-Mannaan.

The Second: Naming Him, far is He from all imperfections and Exalted, with what does not befit Him such as the

name which the Christians give him, Father, or what the philosophers call Him, the Causer or Prime Mover.

The Third: Describing Him, far is He from all imperfections and Exalted, with what does not free Him of defects and

shortcomings such as the saying of the Jews: Indeed Allaah is poor (needy) and we are rich[Aali Imraan 3:181] and


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also their saying: The hand of Allaah is tied [Maa'idah 5:64] and that He rests on the sabbath. Exalted is He above

what they say.

The Fourth: Refusing and denying their meanings and their realities such as the saying of the Jahmiyyah that these

attributes are but mere words which do not compromise characteristics nor meanings. To them, the name as-Samee'

does not give evidence for the characteristic of hearing, al-Baseer does not give evidence for seeing and al-Hayy

does not give evidence for life.

The Fifth: Likening His characteristics with those of the creation such as the saying of a mumaththil (one who likens

Allaah to the creation): His hand is like my hand and other such similar statements. Exalted is Allaah above such

things. Allaah has threatened those who commit Ilhaad in His Names and Signs with a very strong warning. He said:

And to Allaah belong the Most Beautiful of Names therefore, call upon Him with them and leave alone those whodeny and utter false imputations against His Names. Soon will they be requited for what they used to do.

[A'raaf 7:180]

He also said:

Verily those who turn away from Our Signs (by attacking, distorting and

denying them) are not hidden from Us. [Fussilat 41:40]

(...They do not enquire into the exact nature of His Attributes and neither do they make comparisons between His

attributes and the attributes of His creation.)

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Jam'iy yah Ahle-Hadees al-Hind I nvites Zakir Naik To Spread The Same Issues Of Aqeedah - To More

Than Half A Million Crowd

Bismillah Al-Hamdulillah As-Salatu Wa-Assalaamu Alaa Rasoolillah. Wa Ba'ad.

During the Jam'iyyah Ahle-Hadees al-Hind conference held in March 2004, Zakir Naik was not only invited to speak

from its platform but also praised, introduced with marvellous charecterestics and was given an open stage to

address over half a million crowd comprising of several Jam'iyyah figureheads, responsible members of different

states of India, general maulvees, madarasa students and common masses. In this gathering he addresses the


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people in Urdu language, teaches them the same issues of Aqeedah besides his manhaj that is exclusively based on

reasoning and logic (It is affirmed in his own books).

Hence this is one of the strongest proofs that the Jam'iyyah is fully aware of his Aqeedah and Manhaj and they

openly promote him and are with him hand in hand. However their differences with Zakir Naik seem to have

disappeared probably implementing the popular slogan of Bannawee manhaj 'We unite upon that which we agree

and we excuse each other on that which we differ'. And now the Jam'iyyah distributes these VCD's under the

banner

'ISLAM EE TAA'LEEMAAT VEDO'N KE ZARIYE SE' meaing, Teachings of Islam Through The Vedas. [Vedas are

the hindu religious scriptures].

Jam'iyyah spokesperson announces.....

quote: On an international level, such a personality, those who have Television (in their homes) and who are

interested to watch programmes in English, they might watch and analyze him on a daily basis. He has come to us

from a far off place, Mumbai. I am referring to Janab Mohtaram(respected) Zakir Naik Sahab. I am going to present

him in front of you people. All of you audience listen to him with ease and comfort; the special characterestic of Zakir

Naik is to make content and satisfy the minds that are affected with doubts and confusions(shukook aur shub'haat),

to defend Islam, and to enlighten the teachings of Islam and its Ibaadaat, moral teachings (of islam); this is his

special attribute. And I request him to come (on to the stage) and even if the time is minimal, and deliver his word to

the audience, who at this time in my view are over half a million; convey (the message) to all these people and

enlighten all of their hearts. Respected Janaab Zakir Naik Sahab.

Zakir Naik says.....

quote: Some people, who have heard my speech before, they are well aware that I usually deliver my speech only

in English but since today, this is the gathering of Jam'iyyah Ahle Hadees (Al-Hind) and my speech should be in Urdu.Insha Allah I will try to present some words in urdu. In my speech, (on the topic) 'the similarity between Hindu

religion and Islam'; in this speech I will not speak about that similarity (between the two religions) which is known to

the common hindus and common muslims. For example, in these religions it is been stated that, 'do not lie', 'speak

the haqq', 'do not steal', 'do not commit robbery', (etc.) these similarities are known to common muslims and

common hindus, I am not going to discuss these (similarities). I will especially discuss those matters which common

public are not aware of but especially those Ulamaa of this religion, the scholars of this religion know but not the


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common public. In the Quran Shareef, Allah Ta'ala states, in Surah Baqarah, Surah number two, ayah number 177

that...

"It is not Al-Birr (piety, righteousness, and each and every act of obedience to Allh, etc.) that you turn your faces

towards east and (or) west (in prayers); but Al-Birr is (the quality of) the one who believes in Allh, the Last Day, the

Angels, the Book, the Prophets..."

and there is a hadeeth of Muhammad (Sallallahu aliahi wa sallam) which is mentioned in Sahih Muslim, Volume

number 1, Book of Eeman, Kitabul Eeman, Chapter number 2, Hadeeth number 6, one person comes to Muhammad

(Sallallahu alaihi wa sallam) and asks him, 'What is Eeman'? Muhammad (Sallallahu alaihi wa sallam) states, Eeman

is that you believe in Allah Sub'hanahu wa ta'ala, that you believe in His Angels, Books of Allah Sub'hanahu wa ta'ala,

believe in Allah's Messenger, believe in the HereAfter and believe in Qadr. These are the six pillars of Eeman. That

we (need to have eeman in) Allah Sub'hanahu wa ta'ala, we need to have eeman in Eeshwar, His Angels, His Books,His Messengers, the HereAfter and in the Qadr.

Today we w ill be discussing what are the similarities between the Hindu Madhab and I slam's six pillars

of Eeman!

So he is teaching them concepts of Aqeedah through the hindu religious scriptures in Urdu now,

Zakir Naik N ow Spreads In Urdu his Aqeedah Of Calling Allah Ta'ala With Names That Hindu

Mushrikeen Have Named Their Deities

Bismillah Al-Hamdulillah As-Salatu Wa-Assalaamu Alaa Rasoolillah.Wa Ba'ad.

The fithnah has not stopped at English Tapes, Videos, Books, Articles, Seminars and Symposiums but now it is

entering into the homes of several million ignorant muslims of Indian subcontinent in the urdu language. Teachingthem that Allah's 33 attributes are present in the Hindu Religious Scriptures; legislates calling Allah with these names

which have no origin from the Sunnah, nor someone from the Salaf has preceeded them in these important issues of

Aqeedah. The tens of thousands of common people who leave their homes and come to such gatherings are in need

of guidance, and I do not understand if the Jam'iyyah realizes the responsibility?


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Insha Allah I will show from the original scriptures of Hindus as to what this man has brought forth, and the level of

filth that will be evident from it will amaze you all Insha Allah.

.....Zakir Naik is referring to Allah Ta'ala as Eeshwar in Urdu in this tape.

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Names That Hindu Sages Invoke In Their W orship

Alhamdulillaah now when the correct Aqeedah of Ahl-us-Sunnah has been made clear, it is worth surmounting the

grave danger of these statements of Zakir Naik from the actual Hindu scriptures, so that everyone understands

clearly the reasons for highlighting Naik's mistakes.

First Part Of Zakir Naik's Statement:-

"It is mentioned in Rig Ved (One of the religious books of hindus) Sages call One God by many names

that means t here are various names g iven to this One God.....

A)Here Zakir Naik affirms that the God being described is Allaah, the Mighty and Majestic, Free is Allaah from all

imperfections.

B)So what are these various names that Zakir Naik is talking about?

C)Below is the whole line and the reader can see the full context of what is being described!

It says:

They callhim Indra, Mitra, Varuna, Agni and he is heavenly nobly-winged Garutman.To what is One, sages give many a title they call it Agni, Yama, Matarisvan.

So the various names that sages call their god are

a) Agni - means fire, the fire-god of hindus

b) Varuna - means water, the god of water of hindus

c) Indra - Power and Vigour, the god of power

d) Mitra - Friend

e) Finally it concludes that he is indeed nobly-winged Garu (yes the one who flies!)


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If you have read sanskrit like me you will know how despicable these terms are based on the background of what

the hindu beliefs are as found in their scriptures and what they mean. So how can one ascribe such names to Allaah,

the Mighty and Majestic?

f) Yama - means Mountain ( it does have many other meanings)

g) Matarisvan (other name of vayu - the wind god)

Any hindu who looks into his own books would just make a mockery of Naik's ta'weel. So I have presented this fact

to those Muslims who are blinded by his quotations in Sanskrit and I hope they open their eyes.

Most Of 33 Different Attributes Of Allaah In Book-2 Hymn-1?

Second Part Of Zakir Naik's Statement


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And Rig Ved alone gives no less than 33 different attributes of Almighty God most of which are mentioned in Rig

Ved, Book no. 2, Hymn no. 1.

So does this Book no. 2 and Hymn no. 1 really contain most of 33 different attributes of Allaah? By Allaah! He is as

He described Himself and how His noble Messenger Sallallahu Alaihi Wa Sallam has described Him.

This chapter in Rig Ved, in Book # 2, Hymn # 1 is devoted to the fire god of hindus and the name of the chapter is

AGNI - which means fire!!!

Here is the translation of this whole chapter and I would like all the Muslims to look into this chapter, I have also

attached the original sanskrit text with it and you may read insha Allaah. And look for yourself what this man isupto!!!

The Fire is invoked 9 times in this chapter.

This whole chapter from its beginning to the end describes, praises and lauds fire.

AGNI - FIRE!!!


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1. THOU, Agni, shining in thy glory through the days, art brought to life from out the waters, from the stone:

From out the forest trees and herbs that grow on ground, thou, Sovran Lord of men art generatad [sic] pure.

2 Thine is the Herald's task and Cleanser's duly timed; Leader art thou, and Kindler for the pious man.

Thou art Director, thou the ministering Priest: thou art the Brahman, Lord and Master in our home.

3 Hero of Heroes, Agni! Thou art Indra, thou art Visnu of the Mighty Stride, adorable:

Thou, Brahmanaspati, the Brahman finding wealth: thou, O Sustainer, with thy wisdom tendest us.

4 Agni, thou art King Varuna whose laws stand fast; as Mitra, Wonder-Worker, thou must be implored.


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Aryaman, heroes' Lord, art thou, enrich ing all, and liberal Amsa in the synod, O thou God.

5 Thou givest strength, as Tvastar, to the worshipper: thou wielding Mitra's power hast kinship with the Dames.

Thou, urging thy fleet coursers, givest noble steeds: a host of heroes art thou with great store of wealth.

6 Rudra art thou, the Asura of mighty heaven: thou art the Maruts' host, thou art the Lord of food,

Thou goest with red winds: bliss hast thou in thine home. As Pusan thou thyself protectest worshippers.

7 Giver of wealth art thou to him who honours thee; thou art God Savitar, granter of precious things.

As Bhaga, Lord of men! thou rulest over wealth, and guardest in his house him who hath served thee well.

8 To thee, the people's Lord within the house, the folk press forward to their King most graciously inclined.

Lord of the lovely look, all things belong to thee: ten, hundred, yea, a thousand are outweighed by thee.

9 Agni, men seek thee as a Father with their prayers, win thee, bright-formed, to brotherhood with holy act.

Thou art a Son to him who duly worships thee, and as a trusty Friend thou guardest from attack.

10 A Rbhu art thou, Agni, near to be adored thou art the Sovran Lord of foodful spoil and wealth.

Thou shinest brightly forth, thou burnest to bestow: pervading sacrifice, thou lendest us thine help.

11 Thou, God, art Aditi to him who offers gifts: thou, Hotri, Bharati, art strengthened by the song.

Thou art the hundred-wintered Ila to give strength, Lord of Wealth! Vrtra-slayer and Sarasvati.

12 Thou, Agni, cherished well, art highest vital power; in thy delightful hue are glories visible.

Thou art the lofty might that furthers each design: thou art wealth manifold, diffused on every side.

13 Thee, Agni, have the Adityas taken as their mouth; the Bright Ones have made thee, O Sage, to be their tongue.

They who love offerings cling to thee at solemn rites: by thee the Gods devour the duly offered food.

14 By thee, O Agni, all the Immortal guileless Gods cat with thy mouth the oblation that is offered them.By thee do mortal men give sweetness to their drink. Bright art thou born, the embryo of the plants of earth.

15 With these thou art united, Agni; yea thou, God of noble birth, surpassest them in majesty,

Which, through the power of good, here spreads abroad from thee, diffused through both the worlds, throughout the

earth and heaven.


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16 The princely worshippers who send to those who sing thy praise, O Agni, guerdon graced with kine and steeds,-

Lead thou both these and us forward to higher bliss. With brave men in the assembly may we speak aloud.

The reader can clearly see the truth however, I will insha Allaah list the commentary on this hymn by a famous hindu

scholar who died more than 600 years ago who has explained the background behind this. Then the readers can

make their own judgement!

The Meaning Of Brahma In This Chapter - Explained By Hindu Scholars

Observe the line 4 (or double line 2) at the center (4th word) is Brahma ()

2.001.02 Yours Agni, is the office of the Hota, of the Pota, of the R.tvij, of the Nes.t.a; you are the Agnidhra of the

devout; yours is the function of the Pras'asta; you are the Adhvaryu (adhvaryu radhvarayur adhvaram kamayata iti

va (Nirukta 1.8) and the Brahma-; and the householder in our dwelling.

[Hota etc.: these are the eight of the sixteen priests employed at very solemn ceremonies; the duty of the Pras'asta

is ascribed to the Maitravarun.a, and Brahma is identified with the Brahman.accahm.si]

Kulluka Bhat.t.a, in his commentary on Manu viii.210 enumerates sixteen priests, in the order and proportion in

which they are entitled to share in a daks.in.a(charity) of a hundred cows, being arranged in four classes, of which

the first four are severally the heads, and others subordinate to them, in the same course of succession:

Class-1:-


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1. Hota, Adhvaryu, Udgata and Brahma (), are to have twelve each, or forty eight in all;

Class-2:-

2. Maitravarun.a, Pratistota, Brahman.accam.si and Prastota, six each, or twenty-four;

Class-3:-

3. Accavaka, Nes.t.a, Agnidhra and Pratiharta four each, or sixteen; and

Class-4:-

4. Gravadut, Neta, Pota and Subrahman.ya, three each, or twelve in all; making up the total of one hundred.

Thus, the percentages for the four groups are: 48, 24, 16, 12 respectively.

Note:-

Below are my findings from the Manusmriti (Another Hindu Scripture)-

209. The Adhvaryu priest shall take the chariot, and the Brahman () at the kindli ng of the fires

(Agnyadhana) a horse , the Hotri priest shall also take a horse, and the Udgatri the cart, (used) when (the Soma)

is purchased.

210. The (four) chief priests among all (the sixteen), who are entitled to one half, shall receive a moiety (of the fee),

the next (four) one half of that, the set entitled to a third share, one third, and those entitled to a fourth a quarter.

[See Manusmrithi 8/209,210]

This clearly proves how Kalluka Bhatt has arrived at this conclusion. So the Brahma () mentioned in the line 4

(4th word underlined) is not CREATOR but is a word used to denote the Class-1 of the priests who will recieve 12

cows from the charity of hundred cows for the service at the ceremony. And Naik still has the audacity to claim this

word can be used to call Allaah the Mighty and Majestic!!


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Ramanatha, in his commentary on the Amarakos'a, viii.17 gives the names of 16 priests, but with a few variations:

Gravastut replaces Gravadut; Prastota, Neta and Pota are replaced with Prasthata, Pras'asta and Balaccadaka. In the

Aitareya Brahman.a vii.1, the sixteen priests are enumerated with some variations: Pratistota, Gravadut, Neta and

Subrahman.ya are replaced with Pratiprasthata, Upagata, Atreya and Sadasya. Other priests included in this list are:

Gravastut, Unneta, Subrahman.ya and the S'amita (immolator), when a Brahman.a.

Madhava's commentary on the Nyaya-mala-Vistara of Jaimini, the list of 16 priests, following Kumarila Bhat.t.a

includes:

1. Adhvaryu, Prati-prasthata, Nes.t.a, Unneta (ceremonial of the Yajurveda);2. Brahma (), Brahman.accam.si, Agnidh, Pota (superintend the whole according to the ritual of the three

vedas);

3. Udgata, Prastota, Pratiharta, Subrahman.ya (chant the hymns, especially, Samaveda);

4. Hota, Maitravarun.a, Acchavaka, Gravastut (repeat the hymns of the R.ca);

the head of each class receives the entire daks.in.a,or gratuity; the second, one-half; the third, one-third; and the

fourth, a quarter].

This very line 3,4 has been repeated in Mandala 10 of Rig Ved, Chapter 91, double line 10 which further accents and

strengthens what I have listed above and no where does the double line-3 been repeated in the entire rig-ved in

accordance with the research of Professor Bloomfield,

Bloomfield said:

"2.1.2 (Grtsamada Bhargava, &c.) = 10.91.10 (Aruna Vaitahavya). To Agni. Ritual stanza"

[Check in Osmania University Library, Library code - OU1 64001, RIG -VEDA REPETITIONS THE REPEATED VERSES

AND DISTICHS AND STANZAS OF THE RIG-VEDA IN SYSTEMATIC PRESENTATION AND WITH CRITICAL

DISCUSSION by MAURICE BLOOMFIELD PROFESSOR OF SANSKRIT AND COMPARATIVE PHILOLOGY IN THE JOHNSHOPKINS UNIVERSITY BALTIMORE, MARYLAND.]

HOW A TINY DISTORTION (THAHREEF) LEAD TO BURNING OF W IDOWS IN INDIA


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[ See Rig Ved, Mandala 10, Chapter 18, double line 7]

7 Let these unwidowed dames with noble husbands adorn themselves with fragrant balm and unguent.

Decked with fair jewels, tearless, free from sorrow, first let the dames go up to where he lieth.

8 Rise, come unto the world of life, O woman: come, he is lifeless by whose side thou liest.Wifehood with this thy husband was thy portion, who took thy hand and wooed thee as a lover.

[Translation by Ralph Griffith]

If you see the end of second line....."Aaa Rohanthu (Janayo) yonimagre" which means 'may they first approach the

place'...

In later times this very line was distorted to "Aaa Rohanthu (Janayo) yonimagne" which means ' may they first

approach the place of fire'. So millions of them were burnt after the death of their husbands with this one LETTER

crime!!!

There is no where in the entire Rig-Ved addressing Aryans to burn their widows as a practise of Sati (meaning good

or pure) while the fact was they were clearly allowed and rather encouraged to re-marry. I have quoted the very

next line (see line 8) which calls for a widow to rise from the bier of her dead husband and now move on to take the

hand of her new husband. So this terrible falsification was made to justify the burning of the widows [ See ProfessorMaccdonnell's Sanskrit Literature, page 120-130 for a detailed discussion]

Now it should be asked to Mr. Naik, how has he used the name of the priest, Brahma () who gets 12 cows

from charitable donation for conducting worship of fire in the chapter above, (that he claims there are most of 33


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different attributes of Allaah, free is He from all imperfections, the Most High, The Most Great) for calling Allaah

Ta'aala?

This word is same as the word 2 on line 6 (Brahma - ) without any change whatsoever!!! And the line 6 is

worse as it actually addresses AGNI as Brahma (). It says Tawam Brahma.....? And does Brahma() here

refer to the Creator atleast?

See the translation, it is self explanatory!!

quote:

And this crime of naming Allaah with such a name is worse than w hat the Hindu priests distorted

yonim agre to yonim agne and justified the burning of the widow s because naming Allaah with thename is ilhaad

The Meaning Of Vishnu In This Chapter - Explained By Hindu Schola rs

Observe the line #5 () where Agni to whom the whole of the chapter is devoted is referred to as Vishnu - so it

says Thavam Vishnu ()!

Now the question is, why is Agni referred to as Vishnu ()?

Here is the explanation from Sayana (12th century Hindu Scholar who wrote the explanation of Rig Ved).

Agni! 1st It exists on earth, not only as culninary or religious fire, but as the heat of digestion and of life, and the

vivifying principle of vegetation; 2nd, as it exists in the atmosphere, or the mid-heaven, in the form of lightning; and3rd, as it is manifested in the heavens, as light, the Sun, the dawn, and the planetary bodies.

quote:

The Sun, it is true, is acknow ledged and hymned as a divinit y, the soul of all moveable and imm oveable

beings, and his manifestations are already know n as A'dityas, including several of the names preserved


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in the P uranas; as VISHNU (), MITRA, VARUNA, ARYAMAN, PUSHAN, BHAGA and TWASHTRI, w ho

are nothing more than the Sun diversified, as presiding over each month of the solar year.

Still, however, the Sun does not hold that prominent place in the vaidit liturgy which he seems to have done in the

ancient Persians and he is chiefly venerated as the celestial representative of Fire.

----End of explanation from Sayana-----

So the reason why Agni was referred to as Vishnu () is due to the fact that they considered one of the forms of

fire to be Sun ( celestial reprsentation of fire) and one of the names of Sun as mentioned in the Puranas is Vishnu

(). And Puranas are but explanations of Vedas.

Zakir Naik's Statementquote:

Another beautiful attribute which is given in Rig Ved, Book no. 2, Hymn no. 1 Verse no. 3, is Vishnu (). Vishnu

() means "The Sustainer". If you translate into Arabic it means 'Rab'.

---end of Zakir Naik's statement-----

Here is what Shaykh Salih al-Fawzaan hafidhahullaah said in Aqeedah Of Tawheed:

The understanding of the word rabb in the Quraan and Sunnah.

The root of the word ar-rabb is rabbaa-yarubbu which means to bring up something from stage to stage, up to the

state of completion. It is said: He brought him up and They raised him up. So the word rabb is used figuratively

for the doer and ar-rabb (the Lord) is used in the absolute sense only for Allaah, the One Who is responsible for

setting right the affairs of the creation, as occurs in His saying:

The Lord of the aalameen. [al-Faatihaa (1): 2]

Your Lord and the Lord of your ancient fathers! [ash-Shuaraa (26): 26]


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Ar-rabb is not used for anyone besides Him, except when it is attached in a specific sense, as is said: Rabbud-daar

(master of the house) and Rabbul-fars (owner of the horse), such as His, the Most Highs, saying while narrating

about Yusuf (alaihi salaam):

Mention me to your lord (i.e. your king). But Shaytaan made him forget to mention it t o his Lord.

[Yusuf (12): 42]

And His, the Most Highs, saying:

[Yusuf] said: Return to your lord and ask him. [Yusuf (12): 50]

And the saying of the Most High:

As for one of you, he (as a servant) w ill pour out w ine for his lord(king or master) to drink . [Yusuf

(12): 41]

He (sallallaahu alaihi wasallam) said regarding the lost camel: until its rabb (owner) finds it. (Reported in

Bukhaari and Muslim).

So from this it becomes clear that ar-rabb is applicable to Allaah, in the definite form i.e. with al and in the annexed

form e.g. Ar-rabb (the Lord) or Rabbul-alameen (Lord of the aalameen) or Rabbun-naas (Lord of the people).

While the word rabb is applied to others only when its annexed, such as Rabbud-daar (lord of the house), Rabbul-

manzil (owner of the house) and Rabbul-ibl (lord of the camel).

The meaning of Rabbul-aalameen is their Creator and Owner, the One who rectifies them, and nurtures them by His

blessings, by sending His Messengers, by revealing His Books and the One who rewards them for their actions.

Now the question is what does the line of hymn contain? - It says

Thavam Vishnurooroogayo namasyaha - You are Vishnu of the mighty stride, adorable.

First Angle - Linguistic point of view:-

quote:


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a)Firstly, is there even a definite article in sanskrit language just like latin? If no, then how did Zakir Naik translate

this to mean 'The Sustainer' in english? And then on what grounds has this been applied to Allaah, the Mighty and

Majestic? Because this can never be the equivalent of ar-Rabb.

quote:

b)And secondly, it says vishnu of the mighty stride, which is an annexed form and not a definite form, giving more

clarity that it is referring to other than Allaah, which is the Sun. And Sun is one of the millions from the creation of

Allaah and there are numerous stars more brighter, more bigger than the Sun!

Second Angle - Meaning in the chapter:-

quote:

a)Here, Agni being referred as vishnu of mighty stride, the Sun is clear from the commentary above.

quote:

b)And even if someone claims that it is referring to the charecterestic of Sun being described as the one who

sustains the life on earth through its sun-light then this in no way justifies the claim, that this is Allaah, the Mighty

and Majestic being referred here.

So from the point of view of characterestic of the Fire and it being referred to as Sun due to which it was worshipped

- one of the best explanation is what Shaykh Fawzan hafidhahullaah has explained..

Shaykh al-Fawzaan said:

Allaah, the Most High, says in a hadeeth qudsi: I created my slaves upon the worship of Me alone (Hunafaa). Then

the Shayateen misguided them.

Meaning they directed them to the worship of idols and to taking them as lords besides Allaah; thereby they fell into

deviation and destruction and into splitting and differing, everyone taking a lord for himself to worship. Since theyabandoned the true Lord, they were put to trial by taking false lords as He, the Most High said:

Such is Allaah, your Lord in truth. So after the truth, what else can there be, except falsehood? How

then are you turned away? [Yunus (10):32]

Deviation has no limits and no end. And it is a necessary consequence for


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whoever turns away from his true Lord, as Allaah, the Most High, says:

Are many different lords better or Allaah, the One, the Irresist ible? You do not worship besides Him

but only names w hich you have named (forged), you and your fathers, for which Allaah has sent down

no authority. [Yusuf (12):39-40]

It is impossible to conceive shirk in rububiyyah with regards to the affirmation of two creators who are similar in

attributes and actions.

quote:However, some of the mushrikeen believed that their objects of w orship had the ability to

dispose some of the affairs of the universe.

quote:

So shaytaan tricked them into the worship of these objects in accordance with their intelligence.

So he called some people to worship them by means of glorifying the dead whose statues they had made, like the

nation of Nuh (alaihi salaam).

Another group took their idols in the form of celestial bodies claiming that they could affect the things which

happened on the earth. Thereafter they made structures for these celestial bodies and assigned custodians for them.

However, they differed with regards to their worship; such that some worshipped the sun or the moon or other

bodies.

Amongst them were those who worshipped the fire like the Maajoos or those

who worshipped the cows as in India, or worshipped angels, or the trees, or the stones, or the graves and tombs.

quote:All of this was due to the fact that they attributed some aspects of rububiyyah to these objects

of worship.

[Note:-So observe how Agni was referred to as Vishnu, the Sun that has a benefit for mankind and hence they

worshipped it as a diety by composing hymns]

Amongst them were those who believed that these idols were a representation of hidden things. Ibn ul-Qayyim said:The setting up of an idol was originally in the form of hidden object of worship. So they made the idol in its image

and set it up and formed it, such that it could represent the hidden deity and take its place. Otherwise, it is well

known that an intelligent person does not sculpture out a piece of wood or stone by his hand and believe that it is a

deity or an

object of worship. (Ighaathatul lahfaan 2/220).


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[source:- http://spubs.com/sps/downloads/pdf/TAW010012.pdf ]

---End of words of Shaykh Fawzaan-----------------------

Whatever the case may be, my primary objection is, given all these facts in the various hindu scriptures, and clear

explanations of the Scholars of Ahl-us-Sunnah wal-Jamaah as to how ar-Rabb in absolute sense is applied to Allaah

alone and how rabb only when it is annexed can be applied to others, how can Naik claim that Allaah can be called

with the name Vishnu? And especially since Mr. Naik chose this chapter, I dont see how Vishnu here means 'ar-Rabb'

in absolute sense whether lingustically or even in the very chapter itself?

Apart from the understanding of the hindu poets who originally

composed these hymns, clearly have AGNI in mind throughout and Agni is referred to as the Sun (one of whose

name is Vishnu-) due to them considering it as a form of Agni so how far fetched is your claim Zakir Naik?

And in Ibraheem & Sulaimaan (Alaihimaa-Salaam) Zakir Naik has a beautiful example...

When he saw the sun rising up, he said: "This is my lord. This is greater." But when it set, he said: "O my people! I

am indeed free from all that you join as partners in worship with Allh. (Al-An'am 6:78)

"I found her and her people worshipping the sun instead of Allh, and Shaitn (Satan) has made their deeds fair-

seeming to them, and has barred them from (Allh's) Way, so they have no guidance," (An-Naml 27:24)

So it would have been sufficient for Naik to respond with the Statements of Allaah, the Mighty and Majestic:

If you were to ask them: "Who has created the heavens and the earth and subjected the sun and the moon?" They

will surely reply: "Allh." How then are they deviating (as polytheists and disbelievers)? (Al-'Ankabut 29:61)

And from among His Signs are the night and the day, and the sun and the moon. Prostrate not to the sun nor to the

moon, but prostrate to Allh Who created them, if you (really) worship Him. (Fussilat 41:37)

And I am sure Zakir Naik will struggle to prove that which the mushrikeen of Makkah believed in (ar-Ruboobiyyah)

from the books of the Hindus let alone Tawheed al-Uloohiyyah and Asmaa Wa Sifaath which he is desperately trying

to prove.

And the confusion/riddles of the Hindu poets who coined many hymns for wind, water and fire and worshipped them,

which have no authority whatsoever, names forged by them and their forefathers, can only be cured with the


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Qur'aan, which Allaah has sent down upon the heart of Muhammad Sallallahu Alaihi Wa Sallam and it is a mercy for

those who believe. So the only way the hindus can come out of darknesses that are filled in their scriptures is

through the Qur'aan and the Sunnah as understood by the Salaf-us-Saalih radhiAllaahu anhum. And Zakir needs to

point out this confustion which is clearly apparent.

The call of Naik should be this and he should show the huge confusion in their scriptures...and invite them to al-

Islaam.

And Allaah has said:

quote:Are many different lords better or Allaah, the One, the Irresist ible? You do not wors hip besides Him

but only names w hich you have named (forged), you and your fathers, for which Allaah has sent down

no authority. [Yusuf (12):39-40]

Invoking Allaah By H is Beautiful Names Is Legislated Worship

Shaykh Abd-ar-Razzaaq al-Ab'aad hafidhahullaah said:

Amongst the perfect Names of Allaah, the Majestic and Most High, is Al-'Afuww - He who pardons,' and Al-Ghafoor -

He who forgives,' and Al-Ghaffaar - The Oft-Forgiving.' Allaah, the Majestic and Most High, loves that we call upon

Him by His names and that we worship Him by that which His names demand.

As He Himself said:

quote:

And Allaah has the most excellent and perfect names, so worship and invoke Him by them Soorah al-A'raaf

(7):180.

Also, the Prophet ! said in a hadeeth reported in the two Saheehs' from Aboo Hurairah , "Allaah has ninety-nine

names, a hundred except one. Whoever memorises and is mindful of them (ahsaahaa) will enter Paradise."

However, ... memorising and being mindful of them ...' (ihsaa), is not merely to take these names upon a piece of

paper and to recite them - as some people do. In fact, the scholars have explained that ihsaa of the names


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comprises three levels. The first of these is to memorise the names. The second is to understand their meanings.

And the third is to call upon Allaah by these names and to act as they demand.

[Source:- The Most Excellent Manner Of Seeking Forgiveness, page 7]

So, is it then permissible to invoke Allaah by the names Vishnu, Brahma and other 33 different ones mentioned in Rig

Ved? Does is carry the same reward? Is this counted as Worship of Allaah?

Can you make dhikr with these names? Are those hindu priests/rishis meditating with these names invoking Allaah,

the Mighty and Majestic?

There are many Muslims in India who do not speak Urdu let alone Arabic but rather they converse in their regional

language, they infact deliver their Jumah Khuthbah in their regional languages and they do use different names tocall upon Allaah, free is He from all imperfections.

Such statements of Zakir Naik would only put them to trial and I hope his blind, ardent and enthusiastic supporters

will take heed. And may Allaah guide us all.

Allaah Did Not Acquire His Name al-Khaali q After Creation Of His creation

Imam ath-Thahaawee al-Hanafee rahimahullaah said:

( )( )

He did not acquire the name al-Khaaliq(The Creator) after the creation of the creation, nor did He acquire the name

al-Baaree(The Originator and Maker) after bringing forth the beings.

[Refer Aqeedah at-Thahaawiyah, #14, Thakhreej ath-Thahaawiyah Of Shaykh Nasir rahimahullaah]

Now, observe the last two lines below from Manusmrithi,


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1.8. He, desiring to produce beings of many kinds from his own body, first with a thought created the waters, and

placed his seed in them.

1.9. That (seed) became a golden egg, in brilliancy equal to the sun; in that (egg) he himself was born as Brahman,

the progenitor of the whole world.

[See the very first chapter of Manusmrithi]


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So the being referred to in the Hindu scriptures desired to produce many beings from his own body, then he created

the waters and placed his seed in those waters. That seed then became a golden egg and he himself was born as

BRAHMA!!!

This is how he acquired the name Brahma!!!


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As for Allaah, the Mighty and Majestic, did not acquire the name al-Khaaliq after creation of the creation. He was al-

Khaaliq even before He created the creation!!!

Similarity Between Jahmiyyah, Mu'tazilah & Hindu Beliefs

Attached is an excellent detailed explanation of Shaykh Saalih Aal-Ash-Shaykh hafidhahullaah on the statement of

Imam ath-Thahaawee al-Hanafee rahimahullaah.

In this explanation the Shaykh clearly explains the three madhaahib,

1. The belief of Jahmiyyah & Mu'tazilah regarding Names & Attributes Of Allaah, the Glorious and Most High.

2.The belief of Ashaairah & Maathuridiyyah regarding Names & Attributes Of Allaah, the Glorious and Most High.

3.The belief of Ahlul-Hadeeth-wal-Athar or Ahl-us-Sunnah regarding Names & Attributes Of Allaah, the Glorious and

Most High.

Note:- No one should confuse from the post above that Brahma is al-Khaaliq. Brahma is NOT al-Khaaliq. I have

clarified already what the original and the base meaning of Brahma is based on the Hindu scriptures. Also refer,

http://salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=8&Topic=5130

The important point to observe is the fact that the being referred in the Hindu scriptures with various names &

attributes has been referred by Zakir Naik as Allaah, the Mighty and Majestic. And this same being referred in Hindu

scriptures in accordance with their beliefs did not posess these names from before. Like the one mentioned above

was born from a golden egg as Brahma - All these beliefs are blatantly in opposition to the Qur'aan & the Sunnah...

Wa Iyyaadhubillaah!

___Ibn Quayyim al Jawziyyah (rahimahullah) On Speaking About Allah Subhanahu Wa Taala Without

Knowledge

Said, Shaikh al-Islam Ibn Quayyim al-Jawziyyah (rahimahullah) warning those who speak about Allah Subhanahu Wa

Taala without knowledge and we ask Zakir Naik to refer to the books of the Salaf and refer back to the Ulamaa in


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these important issues and do not put the masses to trial just by referring The Fundamentals of Tawheed by his

close friend Bilal Philips!!!

To make whatever statements about Allah Taala ; To open your mouth in the matters relating to Fatwa and

judgements without knowledge (Ilm) , is from the greatest and highest of all forbidden matters. The Saying of Allah

Subhanahu Wa Taala,

Say (O Muhammad (sallallaahu alayhi wasallam)): "(But) the things that my Lord has indeed forbidden are AlFaw

hish (great evil sins, every kind of unlawful sexual intercourse, etc.) whether committed openly or secretly, sins (of

all kinds), unrighteous oppression, joining partners (in worship) with Allh for which He has given no authority, and

saying things about Allh of which you have no knowledge." (Surah Al-A'raf , Surah 7 Ayah 33).

It is apparent from this ayah that to say some things relating to Shareeah without knowledge is from the greatest

and highest of forbidden(haram) matters. This is because in the ayah the matters that are forbidden are in(ascending order) order of lowest to highest. In the beginning is mentioned the lightest issue meaning the

forbiddance of Fawahish; then after that is a forbidden matter bigger than the first one, which is Sin and Zulm

(oppression); and after that is mentioned the forbiddance of a matter more bigger than the second, which is to

associate partners with Allah Taala (shirk) and at the fourth (place) and last (place) and at the highest level , the

most greatest and highest of the things that is most haram is mentioned which is, to take the Name of Allah and

speak something without any knowledge whether that statement is made regarding ,

1.

The Names Of Allah Subhanahu Wa Taala

2.The Attributes Of Allah Subhanahu Wa Taala

3.The Actions Of Allah Subhanahu Wa Taala

4.About His deen and His Shareeah

For all of this it is a general Command.

And it is mentioned in an ayah:

Do not put forth from you tongue falsely attributing to Allah Taala.

"And say not concerning that which your tongues put forth falsely: "This is lawful and this is forbidden," so as to

invent lies against Allh. Verily, those who invent lies against Allh will never prosper. (An-Nahl 16:116)

So do not purchase a small worldly gain (from it) but you will be engulfed in a mighty tormenting punishment in the

Hereafter. So observe how Allah Taala has revealed a warning upon those who lie and say falsehood about the

Ahkaam of Allah Taala. And how Allah has threatened those who make things which Allah has forbidden permissible


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and those who forbid what Allah has made permissible. Allah Taala has elucidated in His statement that until the

slave (abd) has knowledge of what Allah has made permissible and what Allah has made forbidden it is not

permissible in any way to declare anything as halal or haram.

It is the qawl (statement) of some of the salaf that a human being should save himself from saying such an such

thing is made forbidden by Allah and such and such things are made permissible by Allah lest it should be that Allah

Subhanahu Wa Taala says, you are a liar, neither have I made this permissible and nor have I made that forbidden.

So until clearly one finds from the revelation of Allah that such and such a thing is forbidden or permissible, its not

befitting for any Muslim to issue fatwa just based on Taqleed or just based on some interpretation (or assumption or

logic ).

[Taken from Ilaamul Muwaqqieen Ann Rabbilaalameen, Urdu Translation, Volume 1, Page 44]

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