Radio La Benevolencija Humanitarian Tools
Foundation
Leidsestraat 106 . 1017 PG Amsterdam .
The Netherlands
[email protected] . T +3120 6166599 . F
+3120 330 8155
www.labenevolencija.org . KvK# 3417658 .
VAT#81.1072.423.B.01
Remembering the forgotten Porajmos
Project Nº 521237-EFC-1-2011-1-BE-EFC-REM
Sharing stories from the past,- working towards the future
- A meeting between Roma and Jews
Verhalen delen uit het verleden,- werken aan de toekomst
- Een ontmoeting tussen Roma en Joden
- An exchange on trauma healing and institution building
for self-empowerment, held in Ámsterdam, 21 October 2012,
Project report: 1 November 2012
This project has been funded with support from the European Commission. This publication
[communication] reflects the views only of the author, and the Commission cannot be held
responsible for any use which may be made of the information contained therein.
Radio La Benevolencija Humanitarian Tools
Foundation
Leidsestraat 106 . 1017 PG Amsterdam .
The Netherlands
[email protected] . T +3120 6166599 . F
+3120 330 8155
www.labenevolencija.org . KvK# 3417658 .
VAT#81.1072.423.B.01
Summary
On 21 October 2012 Radio la Benevolencija HTF organized a meeting between
Roma and Jewish activists.
Radio la Benevolencija is interested in working with the Roma, Sinti and Travellers of
Europe as part of its active bystander orientation in the spirit of its ideological
archetype, La Benevolencija Sarajevo, i.e as part of working for the creation of a
solidarity alliance among all targets of genocide and hate violence - working for self
empowerment and mutual aid.
In this spirit, ERIO, the European Roma Information Office, asked Radio la
Benevolencija to participate in their EU-sponsored program "Remembering the
forgotten Porajmos", by creating a workshop in Amsterdam for Roma and Jewish
engaged youth, to discuss a topic called "Sharing stories from the past; working
towards the future".
The goal of this meeting was to compare the Roma and Jewish experience during
the Holocaust and the Porajmos and to learn lessons for self-empowerment after
World War II.
Each participant introduced himself and told about his or her family history.
During the program, the participants learned about the history of Jews and the Roma
during, before and after the Holocaust and the Porajmos. Orhan Galjus gave a
lecture about the Roma history, while Denise Citroen told the story of the Jews.
The participants watched video's with the story of Ed van Thijn, a Jewish survivor,
and Zony Weiss, a Roma survivor.
A very important part of the program was a brainstorm session, where participants
discussed in small groups the possibility of cooperation between Roma and Jews in
the fields of:
- Educational
- Holocaust and Porajmos remembrance
- The use of media for anti-discrimination
- The preservation of cultural heritage
Radio La Benevolencija Humanitarian Tools
Foundation
Leidsestraat 106 . 1017 PG Amsterdam .
The Netherlands
[email protected] . T +3120 6166599 . F
+3120 330 8155
www.labenevolencija.org . KvK# 3417658 .
VAT#81.1072.423.B.01
After the brainstorm sessions, the (sub)groups presented their ideas to the
participants and the different aspects of the project ideas where discussed.
Participants agreed that this first meeting has the potential for follow-up in the form of
working groups who can work on the following issues:
A) State of treatment and compensation of the survivors of both groups. Comparative
analysis of the legal fight for post-Holocaust compensation- what Jewish
organizations achieved and what can be achieved by Roma today. Comparing
services for holocaust survivor families available to Jewish and Roma groups: social
services and legal services
B) The importance of the Holocaust commemoration for contemporary Jewish
identity, the importance of commemorating the Porajmos for contemporary Roma
identity and trans-national cohesion building.
C) Comparative analysis of modes of political organization among Jews and Roma:
1) differences in modes of organization 2) the role of persecution: The importance of
persecution in general, and the holocaust in particular for Jewish trans-national
cohesion building. 3) Echoes and comparison with Roma efforts: is the Porajmos
commemorated in a similar way?
D) Set up of recommendations for Roma empowerment based on lessons learned
from Jewish empowerment.
Radio La Benevolencija Humanitarian Tools
Foundation
Leidsestraat 106 . 1017 PG Amsterdam .
The Netherlands
[email protected] . T +3120 6166599 . F
+3120 330 8155
www.labenevolencija.org . KvK# 3417658 .
VAT#81.1072.423.B.01
Invitation
Verhalen delen uit het verleden; werken aan de toekomst
Een ontmoeting tussen Roma en Joden
Sharing stories from the past,- working towards the future
- A meeting between Roma and Jews
In het kader van het Europese 'Citizens for Europe' programma organiseert Radio la
Benevolencija samen met ondergetekenden een ontmoeting tussen maatschappelijk
betrokken Roma en Joodse jongeren.
De Roma en Joodse minderheden delen een geschiedenis van uitsluiting, vervolging en
genocide. Als dieptepunt geldt de Tweede Wereldoorlog waar leden van beide groepen op
grote schaal zijn vermoord. Joden noemen dit de Shoah of Holocaust, Roma spreken van
Porajmos. De Shoah en Porajmos hebben diepe sporen nagelaten binnen de twee
gemeenschappen, sporen die ook vandaag de dag nog zichtbaar en merkbaar zijn. Hoewel
het gaat om twee volkomen verschillende groepen is er een duidelijke gemeenschappelijke
verbinding: discriminatie en vervolging.
Het doel van de ontmoeting is om te elkaars geschiedenis te leren kennen en te bezien hoe
de twee minderheden elk op hun eigen manier omgaan met herdenken en het doorgeven van
de geschiedenis van de Shoah en de Porajmos. Bovendien willen we van elkaar leren op
welke wijze beide groepen vorm weten te geven aan hun culurele identiteit en er al dan niet in
slagen de gemeenschap te versterken en de positie als minderheid in de samenleving te
doen verbeteren. Daarbij zullen we vergelijken hoe beide groepen zichzelf organiseren en
wat we gezamelijk kunnen bereiken om discriminatie en vervolging in Europa tegen te gaan.
De bijeenkomst vindt plaats op zondag 21 oktober 2012 te Amsterdam, van 15.30 tot 18.00
uur, met aansluitend diner. Het programma bestaat uit een kennismaking, gesprekken,
verhalen van (prominente) gastsprekers en een aantal andere activiteiten. Er zullen totaal
zo'n vijftien mensen deelnemen en deelname is op basis van een persoonlijke uitnodiging.
Alle deelnemers zijn uitgenodigd vanwege hun actieve maatschappelijke betrokkenheid. Er
zijn geen kosten aan deelname verbonden en de eventuele reiskosten worden vergoed.
Radio La Benevolencija Humanitarian Tools
Foundation
Leidsestraat 106 . 1017 PG Amsterdam .
The Netherlands
[email protected] . T +3120 6166599 . F
+3120 330 8155
www.labenevolencija.org . KvK# 3417658 .
VAT#81.1072.423.B.01
Organisatie:
Radio la Benevolencija
Radio La Benevolencija - Humanitarian Tools Foundation ontwikkelt campagnes om mensen
te activeren tegen haat en geweld tussen verschillende bevolkingsgroepen.
Tel: 06-55888053 (George Weiss, oprichter en directeur)
email: [email protected]
Orhan Galjus
Orhan is journalist, activist en oprichter van Radio Paterin, het radiostation voor en door
Roma. Orhan is betrokken bij verschillende projecten op het gebied van Roma emancipatie
en anti-discriminatie.
Tel: 06-81655498
email: [email protected]
Naftalie Hershler
Naftalie is maatschappelijk ondernemer, actief op het gebied van educatie, joodse identiteit
en conflictpreventie. Naftalie is (mede) oprichter van Radio la Benevolencija, De Digitale
Joodse Stad en Stichting Levende Herinneringen.
Tel: 06-24642940
email: [email protected]
Radio La Benevolencija Humanitarian Tools
Foundation
Leidsestraat 106 . 1017 PG Amsterdam .
The Netherlands
[email protected] . T +3120 6166599 . F
+3120 330 8155
www.labenevolencija.org . KvK# 3417658 .
VAT#81.1072.423.B.01
Program
1) Inleiding – wat doen we vandaag
(Orhan & Naftalie)
2) Introductie – wie is wie
(Deelnemers)
3) De hoofdlijnen: wie zijn wij en wat heeft ons naar deze plak gebracht
(Orhan en Denise)
4) Het Verleden: de verhalen van Zoni Weiss en Ed van Thijn
Pauze
5) Het heden: Culturele identiteit
6) De toekomst: Wat kunnen we voor elkaar betekenen?
7) Rondvraag en afsluiting
samen eten..
This project has been funded with support from the European Commission. This publication [communication] reflects the views only of the author, and the Commission cannot be held responsible for any use which may be made of the information contained therein. Project Nº 521237-EFC-1-2011-1-BE-EFC-REM
Participants
Mr. Roman Krok
BA Social Applied Sciences
Roman, is one of the most promising young Roma in the Netherland, he is activist and
participates in various project and on international level.
Mr. Armend Alibajro
BA Economic School Amsterdam
Armend is as a hidden weapon of the youngest generation of Roma in the Netherlands in the
field of business and economics.
He is main advisor to the CEO of the Radio Patrin.tv
Ms. Andrea Cervenakova
BA Social Applied Sciences
Andrea is student and she want to achieve highest degree in social sciences to be able to
change ‘sleepy’ social strategies on Romani social issues.
Mr. Amet Jasar
Finance Adviser to NGO
Amet is representative of the matured young generation of the Roma in The Netherlands. He is
active in various projects. He worked for international NGOs and he is expert on finances
issues of the NGOs.
Mr.Behljulj Galjus Beki
Editor in Chief Radio Patrin.tv
Beki, is co-founder of the grand Radio Project project. He is long standing activist and
promoter of the Romani culture world wide.
Mr. Ardzun Galjus
IT Management&Training
Ardzun was pioneer to promote Roma from Holland in few projects. Nowadays Ardzun is
studying law and administration.
Ms. Meire
Student
Orhan Galjus (organiser)
CEO, Radio Patrin.tv
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Orhan Galjus, Rom, born in Kosovo, Lives in Amsterdam Dutch citizen
Orhan worked both as journalist and editor of the Romani radio programs in Belgrade and
Pristina. After migrated to the Netherlands in 1990 he worked in Slovakia, Hungary, Czech
Republic, Romania, Bulgaria, Russia, and France and in other countries. He is pioneer in
establishing the Romani radio station PATRIN.
Ms. Mila Burik
Mila is van zowel Joodse als Roma afkomst. Ze is reeds jarenlang betrokken bij projecten en
programma's tbv de Roma gemeenschap.
Yuri van der Sluis
Yuri is ondernemer en filmmaker.
Denise Citroen
Denise houdt zich o.a. bezig met mondelinge geschiedenis. Ze was de coordinator van het
Shoah Survivors project in Nederland.
Carla van Thijn
Carla is fotoredacteur bij de VPRO gids.
Amos van Gelder
Amos is kunstenaar van Nederlands-Israelische afkomst.
Naftalie Hershler. (organisator)
Naftalie is maatschappelijk ondernemer, medeoprichter van Radio la
Benevolencija en houdt zich bezig met educatieve projecten en technologische innovatie.
Achsa Vissel
Achsa is seksuologe, journalist en schrijver.
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Reactions participants
Bokertov Naftali,
Dank voor de hartverwarmende en goedverzorgde middag/avond!
Zo komen mensen bij elkaar.
Zie uit naar de volgende gelegenheid.
hartelijke groet,
denise
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Pictures
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This project has been funded with support from the European Commission. This publication [communication] reflects the views only of the author, and the Commission cannot be held responsible for any use which may be made of the information contained therein. Project Nº 521237-EFC-1-2011-1-BE-EFC-REM
This project has been funded with support from the European Commission. This publication [communication] reflects the views only of the author, and the Commission cannot be held responsible for any use which may be made of the information contained therein. Project Nº 521237-EFC-1-2011-1-BE-EFC-REM
This project has been funded with support from the European Commission. This publication [communication] reflects the views only of the author, and the Commission cannot be held responsible for any use which may be made of the information contained therein. Project Nº 521237-EFC-1-2011-1-BE-EFC-REM