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Another Fine Mess?
Ireland's Economic &Property Market Prospects
Trinity Business AlumniBreakfast Roundtable
July, 2009
Ronan Lyons, [email protected]
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Quick Overview
The Global Recession
The Irish Recession
The Property Markets
Budgets and Banks
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The world is facing the worst recessionsince World War 2
12
34
56
78
910
1112
1314
1516
1718
1920
2122
2324
2526
2728
2930
3132
3334
3536
3738
3940
4142
4344
4546
4748
4950
5152
5354
55
-7%
-6%
-5%
-4%
-3%
-2%
-1%
0%
1%
Private sector jobs lost from peak
"1950s" 1974/75 1981/82 2000-03
Source: US BLS
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The world is facing the worst recessionsince World War 2
12
34
56
78
910
1112
1314
1516
1718
1920
2122
2324
2526
2728
2930
3132
3334
3536
3738
3940
4142
4344
4546
4748
4950
5152
5354
55
-7%
-6%
-5%
-4%
-3%
-2%
-1%
0%
1%
Private sector jobs lost from peak
"1950s" 1974/75 1981/82 1990/91 2000-03
Source: US BLS
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The world is facing the worst recessionsince World War 2
12
34
56
78
910
1112
1314
1516
1718
1920
2122
2324
2526
2728
2930
3132
3334
3536
3738
3940
4142
4344
4546
4748
4950
5152
5354
55
-7%
-6%
-5%
-4%
-3%
-2%
-1%
0%
1%
Private sector jobs lost from peak
"1950s" 1974/75 1981/82 1990/91 2000-03
Source: US BLS
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The world is facing the worst recessionsince World War 2
12
34
56
78
910
1112
1314
1516
1718
1920
2122
2324
2526
2728
2930
3132
3334
3536
3738
3940
4142
4344
4546
4748
4950
5152
5354
55
-7%
-6%
-5%
-4%
-3%
-2%
-1%
0%
1%
Private sector jobs lost from peak
"1950s" 1974/75 1981/82 1990/91 2000-03 2008/09
Source: US BLS
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Trade, output and stock markets are falling everybit as much as the Great Depression
Source: O'Rourke & Eichengreen
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Fortunately, Ireland has almost entirelyescaped the global recession
Finland
Lithuania
Romania
Estonia
Slovakia
Portugal
Italy
Austria
Spain
UK
France
Denmark
Greece
Ireland
-45.0% -40.0% -35.0% -30.0% -25.0% -20.0% -15.0% -10.0% -5.0% 0.0% 5.0%
Source: Eurostat
Change in exports, Jan-Apr 2009 over same period, 2008
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Unfortunately, we're in the middleof our own recession
Consumption Investment Government Exports Imports GDP GNP-20.0%
-15.0%
-10.0%
-5.0%
0.0%
5.0%
10.0%
-38%
Change in GDP/GNP component, Jan-Mar 2009 over same period, 2008
Source: CSO
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There are four interconnected problemsthat the Irish economy faces
Financial Market
NAMA? Nationalize? Or...?
Who pays?This generation? And if so, should it be
shareholders or savers?Or next generation? Taxpayers?
The Exchequer
The government will spend 64bn thisyear - 45bn alone will go on health,education and social welfare
Tax receipts this year are likely to beonly 34bn (not 57bn as projected)
Labour Market
Unemployment: 500,000 signing on by
mid-2010?
Competitiveness: are wages an issue?Are non-wage costs an issue?
Property Market
House prices falling rapidly...
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Rapidly rising employment started the housing firebut cheap and easy credit and tax breaks fueled it
1984 1986 1988 1990 1992 1994 1996 1998 2000 2002 2004 2006 2008 2010-40%
-30%
-20%
-10%
0%
10%
20%
30%
Change in unemployment(inverted)
Change in House Prices Real property interest rates(inverted)
Source: CSO, DOEHLG
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This was despite supply more than matchingmedium-term demand
2002 q1 2002 q4 2003 q3 2004 q2 2005 q1 2005 q4 2006 q3 2007 q2 2008 q1 2008 q40
5000
10000
15000
20000
25000
30000
0
20000
40000
60000
80000
100000
120000
140000
160000
180000
200000New homes (LHS)
Estimated oversupply(RHS)
Source: DOEHLG
Approximate level ofhousing output needed
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Falling rents imply a very significant potentialcorrection in house prices
Implications for Dublin house prices of rents returning to a 5.25% yield
1998Q1 1999Q1 2000Q1 2001Q1 2002Q1 2003Q1 2004Q1 2005Q1 2006Q1 2007Q1 2008Q1 2009Q1 2010Q120
30
40
50
60
70
80
90
100
Dublin rents Dublin house prices
Source: based on daft.ie, CSO
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The Exchequer hole is so big that the Governmentwill need to raise taxes and cut spending
2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 200925000
30000
35000
40000
45000
50000
55000
Revenues Expenditure
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Some thoughts
On the tax side, a recipe for 6bn
A universal property tax (like every other developedeconomy)... 3bn
Increase corporate tax to 14% (effective tax rate would stillbe 3rd cheapest in OECD)... 1.5bn
Income tax: formalize levy as tax rates and normalize tax-free allowances to OECD averages... 1.5bn
On the expenditure side, a starter for 6bn
Better target the vulnerable by cutting 3bn out of 21bn insocial assistance
Public sector pay needs to get back in line... a further 3bn