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    Another Fine Mess?

    Ireland's Economic &Property Market Prospects

    Trinity Business AlumniBreakfast Roundtable

    July, 2009

    Ronan Lyons, [email protected]

    mailto:[email protected]:[email protected]
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    Quick Overview

    The Global Recession

    The Irish Recession

    The Property Markets

    Budgets and Banks

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    The world is facing the worst recessionsince World War 2

    12

    34

    56

    78

    910

    1112

    1314

    1516

    1718

    1920

    2122

    2324

    2526

    2728

    2930

    3132

    3334

    3536

    3738

    3940

    4142

    4344

    4546

    4748

    4950

    5152

    5354

    55

    -7%

    -6%

    -5%

    -4%

    -3%

    -2%

    -1%

    0%

    1%

    Private sector jobs lost from peak

    "1950s" 1974/75 1981/82 2000-03

    Source: US BLS

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    The world is facing the worst recessionsince World War 2

    12

    34

    56

    78

    910

    1112

    1314

    1516

    1718

    1920

    2122

    2324

    2526

    2728

    2930

    3132

    3334

    3536

    3738

    3940

    4142

    4344

    4546

    4748

    4950

    5152

    5354

    55

    -7%

    -6%

    -5%

    -4%

    -3%

    -2%

    -1%

    0%

    1%

    Private sector jobs lost from peak

    "1950s" 1974/75 1981/82 1990/91 2000-03

    Source: US BLS

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    The world is facing the worst recessionsince World War 2

    12

    34

    56

    78

    910

    1112

    1314

    1516

    1718

    1920

    2122

    2324

    2526

    2728

    2930

    3132

    3334

    3536

    3738

    3940

    4142

    4344

    4546

    4748

    4950

    5152

    5354

    55

    -7%

    -6%

    -5%

    -4%

    -3%

    -2%

    -1%

    0%

    1%

    Private sector jobs lost from peak

    "1950s" 1974/75 1981/82 1990/91 2000-03

    Source: US BLS

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    The world is facing the worst recessionsince World War 2

    12

    34

    56

    78

    910

    1112

    1314

    1516

    1718

    1920

    2122

    2324

    2526

    2728

    2930

    3132

    3334

    3536

    3738

    3940

    4142

    4344

    4546

    4748

    4950

    5152

    5354

    55

    -7%

    -6%

    -5%

    -4%

    -3%

    -2%

    -1%

    0%

    1%

    Private sector jobs lost from peak

    "1950s" 1974/75 1981/82 1990/91 2000-03 2008/09

    Source: US BLS

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    Trade, output and stock markets are falling everybit as much as the Great Depression

    Source: O'Rourke & Eichengreen

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    Fortunately, Ireland has almost entirelyescaped the global recession

    Finland

    Lithuania

    Romania

    Estonia

    Slovakia

    Portugal

    Italy

    Austria

    Spain

    UK

    France

    Denmark

    Greece

    Ireland

    -45.0% -40.0% -35.0% -30.0% -25.0% -20.0% -15.0% -10.0% -5.0% 0.0% 5.0%

    Source: Eurostat

    Change in exports, Jan-Apr 2009 over same period, 2008

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    Unfortunately, we're in the middleof our own recession

    Consumption Investment Government Exports Imports GDP GNP-20.0%

    -15.0%

    -10.0%

    -5.0%

    0.0%

    5.0%

    10.0%

    -38%

    Change in GDP/GNP component, Jan-Mar 2009 over same period, 2008

    Source: CSO

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    There are four interconnected problemsthat the Irish economy faces

    Financial Market

    NAMA? Nationalize? Or...?

    Who pays?This generation? And if so, should it be

    shareholders or savers?Or next generation? Taxpayers?

    The Exchequer

    The government will spend 64bn thisyear - 45bn alone will go on health,education and social welfare

    Tax receipts this year are likely to beonly 34bn (not 57bn as projected)

    Labour Market

    Unemployment: 500,000 signing on by

    mid-2010?

    Competitiveness: are wages an issue?Are non-wage costs an issue?

    Property Market

    House prices falling rapidly...

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    Rapidly rising employment started the housing firebut cheap and easy credit and tax breaks fueled it

    1984 1986 1988 1990 1992 1994 1996 1998 2000 2002 2004 2006 2008 2010-40%

    -30%

    -20%

    -10%

    0%

    10%

    20%

    30%

    Change in unemployment(inverted)

    Change in House Prices Real property interest rates(inverted)

    Source: CSO, DOEHLG

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    This was despite supply more than matchingmedium-term demand

    2002 q1 2002 q4 2003 q3 2004 q2 2005 q1 2005 q4 2006 q3 2007 q2 2008 q1 2008 q40

    5000

    10000

    15000

    20000

    25000

    30000

    0

    20000

    40000

    60000

    80000

    100000

    120000

    140000

    160000

    180000

    200000New homes (LHS)

    Estimated oversupply(RHS)

    Source: DOEHLG

    Approximate level ofhousing output needed

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    Falling rents imply a very significant potentialcorrection in house prices

    Implications for Dublin house prices of rents returning to a 5.25% yield

    1998Q1 1999Q1 2000Q1 2001Q1 2002Q1 2003Q1 2004Q1 2005Q1 2006Q1 2007Q1 2008Q1 2009Q1 2010Q120

    30

    40

    50

    60

    70

    80

    90

    100

    Dublin rents Dublin house prices

    Source: based on daft.ie, CSO

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    The Exchequer hole is so big that the Governmentwill need to raise taxes and cut spending

    2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 200925000

    30000

    35000

    40000

    45000

    50000

    55000

    Revenues Expenditure

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    Some thoughts

    On the tax side, a recipe for 6bn

    A universal property tax (like every other developedeconomy)... 3bn

    Increase corporate tax to 14% (effective tax rate would stillbe 3rd cheapest in OECD)... 1.5bn

    Income tax: formalize levy as tax rates and normalize tax-free allowances to OECD averages... 1.5bn

    On the expenditure side, a starter for 6bn

    Better target the vulnerable by cutting 3bn out of 21bn insocial assistance

    Public sector pay needs to get back in line... a further 3bn


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