Social Care and Inclusion

Talk about charging

Thank you for taking time to talk to us about charging for community social services

The Council has to make hard decisions

We want to carry on supporting vulnerable people

This document explains what we are talking about and why, what he have done so far and how you can get involved.

What do you think about how we charge people?

Contact us or attend a meeting

For more information

www.walsall.gov.uk/localconsultation.

You want information in another language or format.

Contact

initialintake@walsall.gov.uk 0300 555 2922

0845 111 2910 07834 114482

Councillor Diane Coughlan,Portfolio holder for social care and inclusion

Keith Skerman, Executive director, social care and inclusion

The council is looking at what people pay

who live in their own home for community social

services

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There is a need to change how you pay for service due to changes in the law

Take into account new law and guidance

What have we done so far?

Met with representatives

Met with key groups of service users and carers.

Held focus groups

Spoken and met with other people

What else have we done?What else have we done?

Taken into account complaints

Used this feedback given

Speaking to existing service users and carers

Feedback

What do we want to do?

We want to treat people fair how we charge for services.

Government wants councils to make people pay towards the community social services they have. The new laws gives councils the right to make choices whether to charge for these services. Walsall has a fairer charging policy which asks people who are eligible to pay towards the cost of their care services

Community alarms

Extra care housing

Direct payments

Day centres

Home care

Law says some social services are freeX

You will pay depending on what money you have

-£14,250X

When looking at what money you have, If you have less than £14,250 , council will take no notice.

£14,250 - £23,250

If you have £14,250 and £23,250, council will take into account what you will pay for.

+ £23,500

If you have more than £23,500, council may ask for the full cost.

If you own the home you live in, council’scan’t take your home into account when charging for services

£To see how much money you have the council will do a money assessment, some of the benefits you get may be taken into account.

The council cannot take into account these benefits

• Mobility component of Disability living allowance• Pensioner’s Mobility Supplement• Night Care Payment • Child Tax Credit X

The council should give you information about your benefits

Council must allow you money to help you live with your disability before they charge you

Council must ignore your wages if you work

? Council to make sure you know why you are asked to be pay, and if you don’t understand to find someone to help you understand, it could be an advocate.

The council must treat everyone the same. If you do have to pay, the money you get must not be less than the basic level of income support , guarantee credit or pension credit plus 25%.

People wanted to see a fair policy across all groups of people.A easy system to understand assessments, and how to pay.

If a charge is to be made, it would be best to pay from the start. This may stop people from using services

Carers being charged: people thought this should be charged for, depending on if they could afford to pay.

Other people agreed that carers were good for the care market and should be not be asked to pay towards the cost of their support.

If people receive good quality care they are more likely to pay for it.

More needs to be done to reach who find consultation difficult to understand

Under the Care Act and Children and Families Act 2014, local authorities will have new responsibilities

Self funders – people who pay for the own care, the council may charge to arrange care on a persons behalf

Carers can be assessed and receive support in their own right, and could have to pay for these services.?

For more information on the Care Act, please see https://www.gov.uk.government/publications/care-act-2014-part-1-factsheets/care-act-factsheets-2

Under the Children’s Act and Families Act , parent carers with a child with eligible needs, may also be assessed and receive supports in their own right.

Children's services will be responsible for meeting children’s needs. Council will meet parental support needs as well.

Service users will have a personal budget and could get a direct payment

Choose different ways how to support themselves.

New charging policy will need to show this

The council may decide one policy and how these are paid for all community based services

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Speak to people about charges who take their personal budget as a direct payment

To look at how to make the best use of technology

To workout the charges for themselves, which may reduce a full assessment

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Social Care & Inclusion provides other services e.g people under the age of 80, who do not have assessed needs.

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Charging for residential and nursing home care are not going to be talked aboutX

You want information in another language or format.

Contact

initialintake@walsall.gov.uk 0300 555 2922

0845 111 2910 07834 114482

01543 372947

Walsall Council Social Care & Inclusion, Zone 3D, Third FloorCivic centre, Darwall Street,Walsall WS1 1TP

@walsallcouncil

Our Walsall

There are meetings which people can attend to talk to people. These are on the website

After April 2015 people will know how the council will charge people for community based social services