South Road Upgrade – JOINT Community Liaison Group (CLG) Meeting No. 7 Record Page 1 of 10 MEETING Joint Community Liaison Group Information Session South Road Upgrade Project, Torrens Road to River Torrens DATE 25 February 2014 VENUE Bowden Brompton Community Centre, 19 Green Street, Brompton IN ATTENDANCE Croydon Station CLG members: Alasdair McLean Bridgette Minuzzo Danka Jonjic Eija Murch-Lempinen Geoff Fussell, Ivana Kotasek Kim Sofo Klaus Frolich, Meshelle Wheare Peter Louca Timothy Cichero South Road CLG members: Adam Milburn Andres Ruiz Barrie Robinson Candice Bowey Jose Garcia Rina Russo Rob Bremert Tracey Haas Trevor Murch-Lempinen City of West Torrens: Cr George Vlahos Joe Ielosi (proxy for A Catinari) City of Charles Sturt: Cr Paul Alexandrides DPTI: Amanda MacGillivray Andrew Evans Belinda Russell Ben Lock Desmond Khoo Glyn Edwards Leigh Dalwood Sarah Patrick (vacation student) Tracie Hanson Wayne Buckerfield Aspect Studios: Tim Conybeare Grieve Gillett: Adam Sickerdich Paul Gillett Kath Moore & Associates: Karen Collins Kath Moore APOLOGIES Jan Cornish (C of Charles Sturt), Angelo Catinari (C of West Torrens), Chris Coxon (business), Cr Craig Auricht (C of Charles Sturt), Cr Edgar Agius (C of Charles Sturt), Phil Hewitt (C of Charles Sturt).
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MEETING Joint Community Liaison Group Information Session South Road Upgrade Project, Torrens Road to River Torrens
DATE 25 February 2014
VENUE Bowden Brompton Community Centre, 19 Green Street, Brompton
IN ATTENDANCE Croydon Station CLG members: Alasdair McLean Bridgette Minuzzo Danka Jonjic Eija Murch-Lempinen Geoff Fussell, Ivana Kotasek Kim Sofo Klaus Frolich, Meshelle Wheare Peter Louca Timothy Cichero South Road CLG members: Adam Milburn Andres Ruiz Barrie Robinson Candice Bowey Jose Garcia Rina Russo Rob Bremert Tracey Haas Trevor Murch-Lempinen City of West Torrens: Cr George Vlahos Joe Ielosi (proxy for A Catinari) City of Charles Sturt: Cr Paul Alexandrides
DPTI: Amanda MacGillivray Andrew Evans Belinda Russell Ben Lock Desmond Khoo Glyn Edwards Leigh Dalwood Sarah Patrick (vacation student) Tracie Hanson Wayne Buckerfield Aspect Studios: Tim Conybeare Grieve Gillett: Adam Sickerdich Paul Gillett Kath Moore & Associates: Karen Collins Kath Moore
APOLOGIES Jan Cornish (C of Charles Sturt), Angelo Catinari (C of West Torrens), Chris Coxon (business), Cr Craig Auricht (C of Charles Sturt), Cr Edgar Agius (C of Charles Sturt), Phil Hewitt (C of Charles Sturt).
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PREVIOUS MEETING RECORD Meeting #6 – 29th (Croydon CLG) & 30th (South Road CLG) January 2014
AGENDA 1. Welcome / Introductions 2. Setting the Scene – Objectives of the joint information session 3. Traffic access
- Croydon precinct - West Hindmarsh precinct
4. Public transport 5. Cycle and pedestrian connectivity
- north / south - east / west
6. Questions of Clarification 7. Outer Harbor rail line / Croydon Station
8. Land use opportunities 9. Future of the project – where to from here 10. Early works
- acquisitions and demolitions - geotechnical investigations - upgrade of Ashwin Parade - utility services
11. Moving forward – future role of the CLGs 12. Thank you and meeting close
AGENDA ITEM DISCUSSION ACTION / NAME
3 Traffic access, main issues relate to southbound exit from: - Croydon precinct, and - West Hindmarsh precinct.
Two working groups established to define, develop and assess alternative options, with assistance from DPTI; six (6) Croydon and six (6) West Hindmarsh precinct options.
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4 Public transport Of note, DPTI are not proposing changes to existing bus routes at this point in time. Impacts relate to changes in location of existing bus stops as a result of opportunities to cross the non-stop South Road corridor. Q: Security concerns expressed regarding the use of the underpass walkway near the River Torrens; the passage
is narrow and dark. A: Lighting in and around the underpass will be upgraded during works, however the concerns have been noted
and will be considered. Q: What is the optimal distance between bus stops and does this arrangement of bus stops fall within that range?
B Lock to provide both CLG groups with both optimal and proposed distances between bus stops
5 Cyclist and pedestrian connectivity, main issues relate to: - north / south connectivity, and - east / west connectivity.
A pedestrian survey will be underway shortly to identify current key east / west crossing movements, for further discussion with the South Road CLG.
6 Questions of Clarification Q: Will there be a new tram stop at Coglin Street? A: Unknown – this is outside of the South Road Upgrade project scope.
7 Outer Harbor rail line / Croydon Station Potential for the OHRL to be upgraded to light rail in future; but timeframes for the delivery of the upgrade is currently unknown. Hence, the Croydon Station CLG have focused discussions on a heavy rail scenario (i.e. worst case). Urban design principles (as documented by Aspect Studios) reflecting the Croydon Station CLG’s discussions are presented in Attachment A. Discussions relating to the station design relate to:
- location of the station (i.e. over South Road or over Queen Street), and - station platform arrangements (i.e. central or perimeter).
Opportunities for the development of the open space beneath the rail structure identified two concepts (refer Attachment B):
- activated edges, and - garden rooms.
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The concept of ‘activated edges’ was identified as the preference by the Croydon Station CLG. Q: What impact will the trees along the corridor have on the design, considering there are strict limitations once the
rail is electrified? A: A comprehensive tree survey has not yet been conducted, so the actual impact on trees along the rail corridor is
unknown. Which trees need to be removed and which can stay will be dependent upon a number of factors (e.g. tree canopy clearance from electrification safety envelopes, construction access).
Q: How much parking is being provided? Activating the area will need more parking, and residents should still be
able to access on street parking in front of their homes. A: Provision of formalised parking arrangements and potential to introduce timed parking (subject to further
discussions with Council). Note that Council have advised that permit parking for residents is not an option. Q: Closing some of the side streets will cause Queen Street to become the main thoroughfare, so will activating the
space cause a safety issue for pedestrians? A: The design of the space will consider the use of traffic control and traffic calming devices to manage pedestrian
safety. Q: There is a real need to be able to get across South Road for cyclists and pedestrians. Is there an allowance for
movement between the Foodland pedestrian crossing and Port Road? A: There is a greenways shared bike and pedestrian path running parallel to the train line and across over South
Road. Also, as a direct result of consultation with the Croydon Station CLG, it is now proposed that the shared path come back to grade immediately after it crosses South Road, regardless of where the station is physically located.
Q: Can a road crossing of the OHRL be sited at Thomas Street to assist with local access? Q: Was data collated on patronage levels at the current Croydon station location? A: The data was collected; this will be tabled at the next Croydon Station CLG meeting.
B Lock to investigate opportunities
8 Land use opportunities Ideas were workshopped for both temporary and more permanent land use options for potential surplus land. For a shortlist of the preferred options, refer Attachment C. Q: Who will install and/or maintain these opportunities? A: Depending on the temporary/permanent nature of the land space, DPTI may arrange for installation (subject to
funding availability and discussions with Councils). Long term maintenance responsibility however will sit with council(s).
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Q: What is the height of the noise wall and what impact will it have on the available land? Is there any opportunity for a basketball ring to be erected on one?
A: The noise wall design and placement has not yet been determined, so DPTI cannot firmly advise the size and shapes of the left over pockets.
9 Future of the project – where to from here Q: What is the target date for an updated reference design? A: Allowing for the election in March and subsequent reference design discussions following that, it is likely that it
will be May or June before we see the revised project reference design. Q: When works commence, what will be the construction duration? A: DPTI have allowed up to three (3) years. However, in engaging a contractor, DPTI will look for opportunities to
deliver this project as fast as possible. Q: Will the two elements (OHRL overpass and non-stop South Road) be sequenced at the same time? A: Construction methodology and timing will be mostly dictated by the construction industry. Q: The security of houses now exposed to South Road along their back fences has been raised. What is being
done to address this? A: Each property is inspected and assessed, and where it isn't safe or secure, or doesn't meet the minimum 1.8
metre standard, they are fixed. Attendees were encouraged to refer any future queries of this nature to Andrew Evans at the project office.
Q: Given that the substation & most services will be moved first, has a new substation location been purchased and
have SA Power Networks (SPN) been contracted to get through their long lead times? A: DPTI are looking at purchasing the new site now, and are in discussions with SAPN. Q: Regarding the Traffic Management Plan (TMP), will the CLG be consulted to ensure traffic is diverted
appropriately? A: The successful contractor will develop the TMP as part of their tender submission. This will be a key
consideration in the tender assessment process. Q: Will the main contract be awarded to a single contractor only, or are there opportunities for multiple contracts? A: The works will be awarded to a single primary contractor; however, this is usually formed as a consortium of a
number of smaller companies. They will then subcontract out packages of works.
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Q: Since rail is the responsibility of the State Government, will it still proceed with the grade separation of the OHRL if the Australian Government decides it will only contribute towards road upgrades only?
A: What the Australian Government is looking for in the rail component are road benefits, and this project offers them that.
Q: If this project is placed on hold, what mechanisms are in place for the maintenance of acquired properties? A: Given bi-partisan support for the development of the North-South Corridor, a change of Government may delay
delivery by 3-4 years. Maintenance of DPTI sites (including vacant blocks) will be actively managed to minimise impacts on the local community.
10 Early works include: - acquisitions and demolitions - geotechnical investigations - upgrade of Ashwin Parade, and - service relocations.
Q: Will the electricity in the side streets be above or below ground? A: The decision is made on a street by street assessment. As the design has not yet been finalised, specific details
are still unknown. Q: Is there an impact on the provision of services to the neighbourhood when they are being relocated? A: Disruptions only occur during the cut over from the old to the new networks; these may be as short as 5 minutes
for Telstra or up to a few hours for other services. However, if you will be affected by such works, there will be a letterbox drop in advance of works to notify you.
A MacGillivray to upload pile testing and geotechnical investigation photos onto the project website
11 Moving forward – future role of the CLGs It is anticipated that the March meetings for the Croydon Station and South Road CLGs will be the final ones for the standing members. It will be important that anything not yet said, documented, explored is raised at these meetings. Where the discussions to date have focussed primarily on planning and concept design issues, the project is now (potentially) moving into a more detailed design and construction focused stage. DPTI however remains committed to community engagement and will be reviewing the terms of reference and objectives for the CLG going forwards, and seek new nominations for the South Road CLG. Current members of either CLG are welcomed to nominate again if they are interested in representing the community on design and construction related issues (e.g. service relocations, noise walls, traffic impacts during construction, general construction impacts).
ALL CLG members to forward further issues for inclusion in the March meeting agendas.
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Q: Can the Croydon Station CLG have one more meeting (post March) closer to the release of the final reference design?
A: Yes – DPTI will organise this closer to the time.
A MacGillivray / K Moore
12 Thank you and meeting close. Meeting closed at 9:15pm.
NEXT MEETINGS: Wednesday 26th March – Croydon Station CLG at 6pm * Post-meeting note: Rescheduled to Tuesday 25th March – Croydon Station CLG at 6pm *
Thursday 27th March – South Road CLG at 6pm
NOTE: Both meetings will be held at the Torrens to Torrens Project Site Office, as per usual arrangements.
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ATTACHMENT A
Urban Design Principles
3 South Road Upgrade_Croydon Overpass Department of Planning, Transport and Infrastructure
Urban Design Principles
Build upon the vibrancy and diversity of the existing Queen Street precinct and Croydon community as a whole
Enhance the green edges and solar access Ensure a mix of active and passive spaces that are designed for flexibility and adaptation over time
Provide an integrated street and park that gives priority to pedestrian and bike movement
Design for activation, improved safety and reduce the potential for undesirable spaces
Art, community gardens and event opportunities
Improve biodiversity through incorporation of extensive planting, urban forest and green climbing walls with integrated stormwater management.
Incorporate space for community events/pop up cafes/markets. Acknowledge the potential for the space to be a key attractor, bringing people into the community
Promote the development of ‘bookend’ sites at either end of the development as destinations to promote walkability along its length.
Provide suitable screening from overpass to retain local residents privacy
Activating edges
Minimise bridge footprint Provide dynamic and flexible spaces Prioritise pedestrians
Minimising visual impact
Provide opportunities for community input
Maximise opportunities for Green Infrastructure
Reinforcing Croydon as a destination Connecting the retail strip Minimise overlooking
GARDEN FORESTGREEN WALL
GREEN GREEN
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ATTACHMENT B
Open Space Concepts
21 South Road Upgrade_Croydon Overpass Department of Planning, Transport and Infrastructure
Urban Design Concepts
1_Activated Edges
2_Garden Rooms
22 South Road Upgrade_Croydon Overpass Department of Planning, Transport and Infrastructure
1_Activated Edges
Preferred Approach (from CLG feedback)
Play: combination of youth play equipment and fitness
Commercial/retail Commercial/retail
Existing street treesFlush kerbs to integrate road with new park
Fitness station
Lawn
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Fitness station Fitness stationWater catchment
‘Loop ramp’ with timber cladding
Outdoor exhibition space underneath station. Translucent screens
Seating ‘nooks’
Existing playground
Shared street
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OUTER HARBOR LINE RAIL OVERPASSCONCEPT OPTION 1 - ISLAND PLATFORM
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ATTACHMENT C
Land Use Opportunities
Land Use / ActivityTemporary (5 - 10 years)
orPermanent ( > 10 years)
Perceived importance
Sports & other “Active” spaces
BMX track Temporary or Permanent Low for West HindmarshHigh for Brompton / Bowden
Cycle path for young and old Temporary or Permanent High
Learn to ride (e.g. smooth surface, stop signs) Temporary or Permanent High
Dirt space (e.g. downhill bike riding) Temporary Low
Outdoor gym facilities(i.e. spread along a path to encourage the walk through) Permanent High
Dog facilities along linear path Permanent Highg g p g
Quiet “Passive” recreational uses
Shaded places to rest for young and old (e.g. benches) Permanent High
Chairs and tables with inlaid chess boards (e.g. BYO pieces) Permanent Medium
Landscaping (e.g. natural design, trees & gardens)
These items will be considered and incorporated where possible into the spaces we will have to work with.
Small ‘nodes’ along the linear path for example, with an assortment of
Meandering walking path through the spaces
Ensure paths are paths are pedestrian friendly g p p ,art, sculptures, dog facilities, gym equipment, chess tables and so on
may be provided.(e.g. width, line marking, sign posted)
Sculpture park with community art
Graffiti art in small panels
OtherOther
Converting the existing heritage houses for a different use, just on smaller land Will be assessed after constructability report has been reviewed
