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Page 1: Steven Joniau Filip Ameye Implementation of nomograms into clinical practice.

Steven JoniauFilip Ameye

Implementation of nomograms into clinical practice

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Clinical value of nomograms

• Important role in the process of decision aid and patient counseling

• Predictive accuracy– Statistical vs clinical significance

• Accuracy Increase of 12% = 120 out of 1000 patients are provided with accurate prediction

• Medical, ethical, economical,… implications– Uplevelling by introduction of novel biomarkers

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Why should we use nomograms?

• Nomograms have been developed to accomodate stage migration

– Not only take into account PSA, Gleason score, clinical stage– Also account for number of biopsies, prior biopsies, etc.– Use updated data sets

– Should be validated, ideally by external validation

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Predictive accuracy of existing nomograms

Chun F et al. World J Urol 2007

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86%

11%

3%

Question: Are you?

1 Urologist

2 Radiation oncologist

3 Medical oncologist

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37%

63%

Question for Urologists: do you have access to robot-assisted surgery ?

1 Yes

2 No

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• 62 years old, married, sexually active

• First PSA: 13.5 ng/ml. PSA years before 9 ng/ml

• DRE: nodule of the right prostatic lobe T3a

Clinical case

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• Large hypoechoic zone in postero-basal right

• 12 biopsies Right side: 6/6 positives in 3 sextants

Gleason 3+4 Left side : 2/6 positives Gleason 4+4

Clinical case

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Question: What are the chances this patient has extraprostatic extension ?

3%

20%

38%

39%

Final stage is T3a N0 M0

1 25%

2 50%

3 75%

4 100%

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Partin Tables

NCCN, Practice Guidelines in Oncology, 2005

Partin tables are not appropriate for staging T3a cancers!!!

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T3 pre-treatment table

Gleason pT stagePSA (ng/mL)

≤ 10 10 – 20 ≥ 20

≤ 7 (3+4)

pT2 29 (20-39) 21 (12-33) 14 (5-27)

pT3a 65 (55-74) 63 (49-76) 46 (30-62)

pT3b 5 (2-10) 14 (5-24) 32 (18-48)

pT4 1 (0-2) 2 (0-8) 8 (0-16)

≥ 7 (4+3)

pT2 31 (15-46) 20 (7-36) 9 (2-21)

pT3a 54 (37-71) 47 (30-65) 23 (9-43)

pT3b 12 (4-25) 26 (12-46) 44 (19-69)

pT4 3 (0-10) 7 (0-17) 24 (0-55)

200 pts with clinical unilateral T3a disease - RP and bilateral LN dissection

Joniau S et al. Eur Urol 2007;51:388–96

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Question:What are the chances this patient has lymph node involvement ?

43%

11%

43%

3%

Final stage is T3a N0 M0

1 < 10%

2 10 – 20%

3 20 – 50%

4 > 50%

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Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center Web Site

Nomogram: Kattan MSKCC

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A small exercise…

• Patient XY

– PSA 6.4– cT2a– Biopsy Gleason score 6 on biopsies

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What is the risk of…

• ECE?20% 40% 60% 80%

• SVI invasion?5% 10% 15% 20%

• pN+?2% 4% 6% 8%

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What is the risk of…

• ECE?20% 40% 60% 80%

• SVI invasion?5% 10% 15% 20%

• pN+?2% 4% 6% 8%

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What is the risk of…

• ECE?20% 40% 60% 80%

• SVI invasion?5% 10% 15% 20%

• pN+?2% 4% 6% 8%

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What is the risk of…

• ECE?20% 40% 60% 80%

• SVI invasion?5% 10% 15% 20%

• pN+?2% 4% 6% 8%

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What is the risk of biochemical relapse after surgery…

25% 50% 75% 100%

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What is the risk of biochemical relapse after surgery…

25% 50% 75% 100%

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A small exercise…

• Patient YY

– PSA 8.6– cT2c– Biopsy Gleason score 7 on biopsies

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What is the risk of…

• ECE?20% 40% 60% 80%

• SVI invasion?5% 10% 15% 20%

• pN+?2% 4% 6% 8%

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What is the risk of…

• ECE?20% 40% 60% 80%

• SVI invasion?5% 10% 15% 20%

• pN+?2% 4% 6% 8%

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What is the risk of…

• ECE?20% 40% 60% 80%

• SVI invasion?5% 10% 15% 20%

• pN+?2% 4% 6% 8%

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What is the risk of…

• ECE?20% 40% 60% 80%

• SVI invasion?5% 10% 15% 20%

• pN+?2% 4% 6% 8%

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What is the risk of biochemical relapse after surgery…

25% 50% 75% 100%

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What is the risk of biochemical relapse after surgery…

25% 50% 75% 100%

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EAU prostate cancer guidelines

• Use of nomograms is only included 3 times

– Preoperative staging (Kattan nomogram, Partin tables (= look-up tables))

– Indication of extended lymph node dissection (Briganti nomogram)

– Indication of nerve-sparing surgery (Partin tables)

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• So, clearly the use of nomograms has not yet been implemented sufficiently into routine urological practice!!!!!

• The reason for this is that studies providing EBM on the advantage of using nomograms over clinical judgement are virtually ABSENT!!!

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Why should nomograms be implemented into clinical practice?

• Appropriate patient couseling and decision-making

• Better disease prognostication

• Follow-up scheduling

• Selection of appropriate patients for clinical trials

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Why should nomograms be implemented into guidelines?

• Currently, the only method through which we can compare biochemical recurrence rates after alternative treatment modalities with brachytherapy, external beam radiotherapy, and radical prostatectomy are nomograms

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What do we need in the future?• Update nomograms to contemporary situation

• Head-to-head comparisons between nomograms to select the best-suited model in selected fields of PCa outcomes

• We need nomograms that provide accurate predictions of hard clinical endpoints (clinical failure, death from the disease)

• We need nomograms that accurately predict death from comorbid disease in men with localized disease selected for radical treatment

• We need nomograms that predict treatment-related toxicity

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What do we need in the future?

• Ultimately, improved imaging studies and high-throughput genomics may replace the use of nomograms, as they will provide an real patient-specific staging and prognostication, and patient-tailored treatment decisions

• In the meantime, nomograms are the best possible alternative and should be actively implemented in urological practice


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