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    IN THE CIRCUIT COURT FOR ANNE ARUNDEL COUNTY, MARYLAND

    JUDITH CHAMBERLAIN 

    Plaintiff ,

    vs.

    Case Number:

    02 - C-09 - 139690 DA

    STEPHEN CHAMBERLAIN 

    Defendant.

    OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT OF PROCEEDINGS

    Motion Hearing)

    Anne Arundel, Maryland

    Thursday , January 9, 2014

    BEFORE :

    HONORABLE MICHAEL J. WACHS

    APPEARANCES:

    For the Plaintiff :

    MARIETTA B. WARREN, ESQUIRE

    For the Defendant:

    DONNA McCABE SCHAEFFER, ESQUIRE

    Electronic Proceedings Transcribed by: Dawn Archambo

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    SUMMARY UDGMENT MOTION

    By Ms . Schaeffer

    By Ms . Warren

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    THE COURT: C-09-139690, Chamberlain versus

    Chamberlain.

    MS. WARREN: Good afternoon, Your Honor.

    THE COURT: Good afternoon. Counsel if you want

    to identify yourselves for the record including spellings of

    your last names.

    MS. WARREN: Your Honor, Marietta Warren,

    W-A-R-R-E-N, I m here on behalf of Mr. Brown today.

    THE COURT: Okay.

    MS. SCHAEFFER: Good afternoon, Your Honor. Donna

    Schaeffer, S-C-H-A-E-F-F-E-R, on behalf of Mr. Chamberlain,

    I m in for Kevin Schaeffer today.

    THE COURT: Okay, thanks. So I think this is

    Mr. Chamberlain s motion so I did read through the file list

    and I m happy to hear any argument you d like to make.

    MS. SCHAEFER: Thank you, Your Honor.

    THE COURT: Sure.

    MS. SCHAEFER: The issue before --

    THE COURT: Let me -- I assume that

    Ms . Chamberlain is not coming because she s out of state?

    MS. WARREN: That s correct, Your Honor.

    THE COURT: Okay, go ahead Ms. Schaeffer.

    MS. SCHAEFFER: Thank you , Your Honor. The issue

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    before the Court -- that's before the Court on summary

    judgment motion today involved one three sentence provision

    of the parties marital settlement agreement and that

    provision is very short and it's set forth in the motions

    for summary judgment, as well as in supplemental motions.

    But basically, Your Honor, it says that The parties have

    contributed to Florida's Prepaid College Plan and Maryland

    College savings accounts. After the funds from the Florida

    and Maryland college accounts have been depleted, husband

    shall pay the cost of tuition, room and board, books,

    registration fees and reasonable application fees instant to

    providing each child with an undergraduate college education

    for four consecutive years. The selection of which college

    or university each child shall attend shall be made by

    husband, wife and the child prior to application and prior

    to enrollment.n

    On September 2, 2011 the parties entered into a

    consent order in which husband reaffirmed his obligations

    under that Section 8 of the marital settlement agreement and

    also Mrs. Chamberlain agreed that she would contribute

    $9,000 of the child support per year that Mr. Chamberlain

    agreed to pay through college toward those expenses.

    In essence, Your Honor, the parties son is now a

    senior in high school. He and his mother proposed -- and

    these are undisputed facts. He and his mother proposed

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    1 Auburn -- Auburn University, Virginia Tech and then later on

    2 Georgia Tech. Mr. Chamberlain agreed and again it s

    3 undisputed. In fact, it appears in paragraph 9 of the

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    Plaintiff s petition for relief that - - to

    he agreed to

    5 Auburn University. So that is the college that the three of

    6 them have agreed upon so his obligations, assuming the child

    7 attends -- applies and attends Auburn University, his

    8 obligation is to pay those expenses in accordance with the

    9 agreement and the consent order that was entered in

    10 September of 2011.

    11 The Plaintiff s pleadings are labeled as an Action

    12 for Enforcement of the Agreement and Declaratory Judgement,

    13 but actually if you read the pleadings what they re asking

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    the Court to do is to rewrite the parties agreement

    15 concerning the college expenses and the Court can t do that

    16 and the Court shouldn t do that. Mr. Chamberlain has

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    entered into an obligation, an extraordinary obligation that

    he s not required by law to do, so he - - the Court can t add

    other terms to

    that he has to apply to three schools or

    six schools or eight schools or in-state or out - of - state.

    Those -- none of those terms apply.

    What applies is the obligation that there be a

    unanimous selection of the university by the three - - the

    two parties and their son. Auburn is the only unanimous

    university agreed upon as well as once that university is

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    chosen the obligation to pay is set forth in the agreement

    and the consent order.

    There are no genuine issues of material fact.

    Read the pleadings , read the Plaintiff   s pleadings and the

    supplemental pleadings , there s all kinds of allegations

    which we could spend hours/days refuting but none of those

    facts are material to the parties obligations with respect

    to the college expenses . The only material facts are

    undisputed and they are the terms of the parties agreement

    as I   ve already read into the record and as set forth in the

    pleadings . The parties and their son have agreed upon

    Auburn University. Each side proposed o t her schools. The

    only common university that they agreed upon was Auburn and

    the college expenses for the agreed upon schools are paid --

    to be paid pursuant to the terms of the agreement.

    The relief that the Plaintiff asks for is that the

    Court determine that the son can apply to other schools .

    Well there   s nothing stopping their son from applying to any

    school that he wants to apply to. However, the Defendant s

    obligation to contribute to those college expenses is

    limited to agreed upon schools.

    All of the other arguments and allegations and

    requests by the Plaintiff are barred by the rules of

    contractual interpretation as set forth in our memorandums ,

    our memoranda . There are a couple of additional cases that

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    aren't cited that I'd like to point the Court to, and the

    first is Parker vs. Columbia Bank and that's 91 MD App. 946

    and that's a 1991 case, and that deals with the duty of good

    faith.

    I don't know how anyone can argue that there was no

    god faith here because since Mr. Chamberlain agreed to a

    university.

    So certainly it's not like he said I'm not

    going to agree of your choices.

    In fact, prior to even

    filing of these pleadings he had agreed to Auburn. So

    there's bad faith I think on the Plaintiff's part in filing

    this action.

    But in any event, there's certainly no lack of

    good faith in his handling of this situation.

    The other case -- case that I would like the Court

    to refer which was Heist vs. Eastern Savings Bank and that's

    165 MD App. at 144 and that's says The contract must be

    construed to effectuate all of the terms as collected from

    the entire agreement.

    So we can't say that yes, yes pay for college but

    no it doesn't have to be agreed upon.

    That is one

    provision, a three sentence provision and that provision

    needs to be construed as a whole. And then the case of

    Caston Construction vs. Rod Enterprises, 268 MD 318, also

    says the same thing, You must construe a contract as a

    whole.

    You must give effect to every clause and phrase.

    So Your Honor, I don't see -- I frankly don't see

    why we're here. If you look at the relief that they've

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    asked for, it s -- the Court - - they ve asked for attorney s

    2 fees, an immediate hearing which apparently didn t happen,

    3 and that the Court determine that the child can apply to

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    whatever universities he wants to.

    The Court can -- the

    5 child - - the Court doesn t need to determine that. That is

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    not within the terms of the contract.

    But certainly there s

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    nothing to stop the child. But what is key is

    8 Mr. Chamberlain s obligation to contribute to those expenses

    9 and that is contingent upon it being an agreed upon

    10 university by the parties and their son.

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    So for those reasons, Your Honor, looking at the

    12 terms of the parties agreement and undisputed facts, it s

    13 clear that Mr. Chamberlain is entitled to judgment as a

    14 matter of law and we would ask the Court to enter that

    15 judgment and dismiss the parties -- the Plaintiff s

    16 complaint.

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    THE COURT: All right. Ms. Warren?

    MS. WARREN: Thank you, Your Honor. I don t want

    to take up too much of the Court s time because I think the

    issue has been extensively briefed on either side.

    THE COURT: Right.

    MS. WARREN: Has the Court received a copy of the

    reply to the supplemental or the supplemental statement of

    grounds that was filed? That

    THE COURT: I don t think so.

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    MS. WARREN: Okay, let me see, because I printed

    out an additional copy of that just in case.

    THE COURT:

    I have Mr. Schaeffer s reply to

    Plaintiff s opposition to the Defendant s motion for summary

    judgement.

    MS. WARREN: Then after that there was a

    supplemental statement of grounds

    THE COURT: No.

    MS. WARREN: that was filed and then we filed a

    response to that supplemental statement.

    THE COURT: They re not in the file.

    MS. WARREN: Okay.

    THE COURT: I mean I accept that you filed them,

    they re just --

    MS. WARREN: Right.

    THt COURT: -- probably downstairs somewhere in

    the Clerk s Office.

    MS. SCHAEFFER: You don t have Mr. Schaeffer s

    supplemental?

    THE COURT:

    I ll check again.

    I don t remember

    seeing it last night. When was it filed?

    MS. SCHAEFFER:

    It was filed December 30 th.

    THE COURT: No. The last filing I have is from

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    MS. SCHAEFFER: I can -- if the Court wants we can

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    to consider. There are disputes of material fact and I

    think what the Court needs to focus on are the emails

    between the parties that lead up to the ultimate filing of

    our complaint.

    Now in those emails -- and I should start off by

    saying the parties actually have three children.

    This

    instant dispute is just regarding their youngest son. Their

    two older daughters were -- they were able to have them

    apply to school, enroll in school without disagreement.

    Both of the older children applied to the University of

    Alabama while they were Maryland residents.

    So the in-state

    wasn t an issue there, and Mr. Chamberlain has complied with

    all the terms of the agreement regarding payment of the

    college expenses for the two older children.

    In February of last year the Plaintiff sent

    Mr. Chamberlain an email trying to initiate a conversation

    regarding the college choice issue for their youngest child,

    John.

    The Defendant responded that he would not communicate

    with the Plaintiff except in writing.

    She had asked him if

    they could talk over the phone or meet in person. The email

    which the Court has copies of, both of the parties have

    attested to the emails and attached them to their motion for

    summary judgment and the response to the motion for summary

    judgment.

    In Mr. Chamberlain s initial response he claimed

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    that the Plaintiff had created a fiscal crisis for him and

    so because of that, John

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    s school choices were going to be

    limited. Then in March there was another series of emails

    where Mr. Chamberlain and the child were communicating at

    that point. The child provided Mr. Chamberlain with a very

    detailed explanation of the schools that he was looking at

    and specifically what he said is I'm considering applying

    to Auburn and Virginia Tech,   and then he went on to explain

    why Virginia Tech was a better school for him, it was better

    ranked academically, it would be a better choice for him.

    He did not say that he was going to attend either one of

    them.

    This was just at the point where they were talking

    about an application.

    Most _notably Mr. Chamberlain's response to that e -

    mail from John was and I'm quoting excerpts from the e - mail

    but the Court has it.

    Your approach to determining the

    best fit for you seems well thought out. Of significance as

    you mentioned is that it needs to be right for you even if

    you change your major .

    Please keep me updated on your

    search. Remember you are in a position nicely to control

    your destiny . There was no further communication after

    March up until last summer, June of 2013.

    In June , my client again initiated communication

    to Mr. Chamberlain asking him -- saying that there hadn't

    been a response and what were they going to do in regard to

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    the application deadlines which were coming up.

    Mr . Chamberlain responded with some vitriol again, but

    ultimately cancluded Once the costs associated with

    specific schools are known, we can determine which schools.  

    There is no where in there an affirmative acceptance or

    denial of where the child is going to apply.

    Ms . Chamberlain responded by forwarding Mr. Chamberlain an

    email with the links to all of the different tuition pages

    for the particular schools that the child was looking at and

    that included Virginia Tech, Auburn and Georgia Tech.

    Apparently Mr. Chamberlain ignored that email.

    There were another series of emails between him and the

    child where he tells him to limit his search to schools in

    the Alabama area, a requirement that was never contemplated

    by the agreement , that was never an issue for the parties

    older children and has apparently been unilaterally grafted

    onto the agreement by Mr. Chamberlain.

    There was a final series of emails then in July of

    2013 where Mr. Chamberlain once again states I don't

    understand why we would send an application to a school

    unless you provide some information concerning the financial

    cost to attend.   Now again, my client, the son had already

    done that.

    But also, the issue that Mr. Chamberlain is

    aware of is that John , the child, can't determine what

    scholarships he's entitled to. He can't determine what his

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    financial aid package will be until he ' s able to actua l ly

    apply to the school , that ' s the way it works. You send in

    the application , they come back to you they tell you whether

    you qualify for certain scholarships or aid or things l i ke

    that.

    THE COURT:

    Why not just apply?

    MS.

    WARREN 

    I ' m sorry?

    THE

    COURT:

    Why not just apply

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    Because

    pursuant to

    the terms

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    of the agreement

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    the

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    application and

    prio r to

    enrollment. The agreement is very specific on that point.

    Now I think there are a lot of problems with the agreement,

    but that ' s what the second sentence of this two - pronged

    obligation for the Defendant says.

    THE COURT: The third sentence makes no sense at

    all and I don ' t - -

    MS. WARREN: Your Honor --

    THE COURT: I don ' t know - -

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    shouldn't say that .

    I don't know if any of you were in v olved in drafting it , but

    -- and so I apologize.

    MS. WARREN:

    I personally was n ot and I don't

    think Mr. Brown was involved.

    THE COURT:

    It says "The selection of which

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    college or university each child shall attend shall be made

    2 by husband , wife and child prior to application .   That

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    makes no sense.

    I mean you don't select a school to attend

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    prior to application.

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    MS. WARREN: I agree.

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    THE COURT: You select which school to attend , you

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    apply and then you get your financial package and then you

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    make your determination.

    I mean it just - -

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    MS. WARREN: And Your Honor , one of the issues

    10 that we have and one of the reasons why this case came to

    11 the Court in the posture that it ' s in is that John isn ' t

    12 even able to determine where he'll be accepted. Now

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    can

    13 say his acceptance at Auburn is fairly likely. He believes

    14 that he will be accepted at Virginia Tech but that's not

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    THE COURT: Has he applied?

    MS. WARREN  that he doesn't get in.

    THE COURT: Has he applied?

    MS. WARREN: Your Honor, I don't think that that's

    before this Court on that issue. I can't -- I can't offer

    any testimony on that.

    THE COURT: So the relief

    one of the requests

    for relief is that he be authorized to app l y to schools.

    MS. WARREN: Because Your Honor, the risk that he

    runs is that if he applies and if Mr . Chamberlain maintains

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    things that lawyers who are drafting an agreement would kno

    to include if they wanted to make that obligation contingent

    on some other step that had to happen.

    Now very interestingly , the Defendant has raised

    in his motion for summary judgement this whole -- of an

    agreement to agree and enforceability and can you enforce a

    agreement to agree? And I agree that the second sentence in

    that provision , the sentence regarding the parties needing

    to agree on the college prior to application and prior to

    enrollment does present enforceability issues. However,

    this contract has a severability clause and the severability

    clause provides that - - let me pull it up .

    THE COURT: Does it require agreement of the

    husband, wife and child? I'm not even sure it does.

    MS. WARREN: Does the -- the separation agreement

    itself require agreement?

    THE COURT: I ' m reading the . last sentence in

    paragraph 8. It says Each shall   --

    MS. WARREN: The selection of which col l ege.  

    THE COURT: The selection of which college or

    university that each child shall attend shall be made by

    husband , wife and child .

    MS. WARREN: Right.

    THE COURT: Again, it doesn't require you to

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    MS. WARREN: And well, Your Honor that s why we --

    THE COURT: I mean --

    MS. WARREN: sought a declaratory judgment,

    because I think there are lots of ambiguities with this

    language.

    THE COURT: Right.

    MS. WARREN: Our position is that the Defendant is

    obligated to pay for the college expenses regardless of

    whether or not there s an agreement. However, if there were

    an alternative interpretation of that and there is on the

    Defendant s side, then you have a situation where the child

    is in limbo like he is right now and there s nothing being

    paid.

    So that s why we  re seeking an interpretation on

    this issue. However, the Defendant raised the Horsey

    (phonetic) case.

    THE COURT: I m not sure the child is in limbo

    yet . I think he can apply anywhere he wants.

    MS. WARREN: Well, there s certainly going to be

    an issue though when it comes time to actually accept. You

    know, assuming he is admitted somewhere there is going to b

    that issue and I think that there is an issue now in

    regarding -- in regard to his ability to apply if he seeks

    to enforce the contract regarding the Defendant s obligation

    to contribute to the expenses .

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    Now in regard to the Horsey case and the idea that

    the Court could sever the portion of the agreement that's

    unenforceable, what would happen if the Court were to apply

    what happened in Horsey, which was an alimony case regarding

    a separation agreement with a provision where the husband

    was obligated to pay alimony and then it said something to

    the effect of Ho wever the parties will in the future agree

    to a reasonable reduction in alimony, and what the Court

    said is No, we can't do that, that's an agreement to agree,

    so what we're going to do is strike out just that provision

    and the remaining provision, namely husband's obligation to

    pay alimony, stays the same without modification.

    So if that were the case and if the Defendant's

    position in regard to the motion for summary judgment and

    the issues that they've just raised were to be accepted by

    the Court, what would happen is that last sentence would be

    struck out and the Defendant would still have an obligation

    to pay for the college expenses.

    So that again creates an issue as to why this is

    not at least -- at the very least not an appropriate

    situation for summary judgment.

    Now Your Honor, as I stated, our position is that

    there was never an agreement that the child was going to

    attend Auburn. He sent an email saying that Auburn was a

    consideration. However, he very clearly noted that Virginia

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    Tech was his primary choice.

    Essentially, one of the ways

    that this contract could be interpreted and our concern is

    that the child would be barred from receiving any

    contribution towards his expenses if were to just to go out

    and apply . And so then we have issues about deadlines

    expiring , him not being able to do early admission or things

    like that because we ' re trying to get this situation

    resolved and that's why we had requested an expedited

    hearing.

    Your Honor, we also addressed the issue of an

    applied duty of good faith and it's our position that there

    has not been a good faith effort by all the parties involved

    to try and resolve issue and that goes back to looking at

    the emails, and if you see the communications that the

    parties had , the way this was left prior to the complaint

    being filed was Mr. Chamberlain saying I don't know what

    you want me to do. I can't give you any kind o f response

    until I know what the expenses that I'm to be obligated to

    pay are.   And that creates an impossible situation for

    everybody else involved .

    The Defendant has argued that you can't file a

    suit based on an implied duty of good faith.

    I absolutely

    agree, however , the case law is clear that all contracts in

    Maryland have this implied duty of good faith so long as it

    doesn't conflict with any other provisions in the agreement.

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    Now in terms of the motion for summary judgment,

    the Court simply at this point just doesn't have enough

    information to determine (a) whether there was an agreement

    on where the child was going to apply and/or enroll, which

    is what the language of the contract says, nor does the

    Court have enough information to determine whether there

    really was a good faith attempt to agree, because when you

    look at the emails we contend that there wasn't, that there

    was a lot of arguing back and forth, a lot of sniping, but

    ultimately, Mr. Chamberlain would not give a yea or nay

    because he was requesting financial information.

    And Your Honor, there is also a third issue

    regarding Mr. Chamberlain's refusal to provide his address

    or his financial information. One of the issues that he

    raised right off the bat with this college choice is You

    placed me in this fiscal crisis.

    I can't afford it,

    essentially. And so requests were made both through

    counsel and with a Subpoena for financial information and

    then for residential information (a) because it's required

    in the agreement, there's a provision that says the parties

    will keep each other informed of their address, and (b)

    because it ma y open up the door to the child to be able to

    apply to more scho o ls assuming that Mr. Chamberlain doesn't

    live in Alabama where he would qualify for in-state tuition.

    We have received nothing in regard to that

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    response , and in fact , there was a motion to quash that was

    filed in response to the Subpoena that had been sent out.

    And that again goes to the good faith issue.

    So Your Honor , just to wrap it up , for the reasons

    stated in the reply motions that have been filed and that

    we ' ve just been discussing right now, this is clearly not a

    case for summary judgment .

    I think it's a fairly complex

    case that needs some serious contractual interpretation

    regarding what the parties obligations are under the current

    agreement, and , if the Court were to accept t he Defendant's

    argument even , the Defendant has raised a legal issue that '

    not appropriate for summary judgment as to whether or not

    this contract is severable and where the severance would be

    made .

    Is it that the Court just severs that last sentence

    where it says The parties agree to agree, or is it that

    the Court takes some other action in regard to that

    particular provision.

    So Your Honor , we would request that the motion

    for summary judgment be denied.

    THE COURT: Okay.

    MS. SCHAEFFER: I'd like to address a couple of

    other points.

    The Court ra i sed the issue of does it require

    -- does Section 8 require unanimity .

    It says and,   so I

    think it does require all three of them - -

    THE COURT: Probably.

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    MS. SCHAEFFER: -- to agree.

    THE COURT: But I don t think it s clear.

    Probably, more likely than not.

    MS. SCHAEFFER: We weren t involved in the

    drafting of it. Our firm didn t represent Mr. Chamberlain

    at the time but I think the Court has to interpret the

    agreement in a reasonable manner. And when you get to the

    severability issue --

    THE COURT: But is it reasonable -- what if they

    never agree?

    MS. SCHAEFFER: Well, but that s -

    THE COURT: Then he doesn t go to college?

    MS. SCHAEFFER: You don t have that situation,

    Your Honor. They have agreed.

    THE COURT: Okay. At a minimum your client agrees

    to pay for -

    MS. SCHAEFFER: Auburn.

    THE COURT: Costs of Auburn?

    MS. SCHAEFFER: Right, and I

    THE COURT: Wouldn t that -- would you then also

    guess read into that if a child were to go to school at the

    I don t know, the University of Maryland and that exceeds

    the cost of Auburn, that he would at least pay up to the

    Auburn level?

    MS. SCHAEFFER: I think they could negotiate that.

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    the parties are bound by and that's what the Court -- the

    only thing that the Court can enforce.

    So for all of those reasons, Your Honor, we would

    ask that the Court grant summary judgment.

    I do -- one more

    point I want to make.

    This obligation, this implied

    obligation of good faith, there's no question that that

    appeared -- that applies to all contracts, but the cases and

    these are cases that I cited to earlier, Parker vs. Columbia

    Bank case says that This duty applying to the applied duty

    of good faith, simply prohibits one party to a contract from

    acting in such a manner as to prevent the other party from

    performing his obligations under the contract. That's the

    implied duty of good faith.

    The implied duty of good faith

    does not say that he has to agree to two of the three

    selections or three of the five selections. He has agreed

    to one of the selections. He has not prohibited his ex-wife

    from performing her obligations under the contract.

    So he's in total compliance with the implied duty

    of good faith.

    So that's kind of a red herring, Your Honor. He

    has acted in good faith and it's worn out by the affidavits

    and the emails which nobody is disputing. They've submitted

    them and we ' ve submitted them and we would ask the Court to

    rule in our favor and grand summary judgment.

    THE COURT: All right thank you.

    You know I'm no

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    the Defendant   s position

    THE COURT:

    So here s what my options are.

    For

    the case to the Office of Case Management, it goes down to

    Erin McCarthy s office, she takes a look at it. Chances are

    it will be set for a Scheduling Conference.

    Then whoever

    has that would determine whether mediation is appropriate.

    I don   t think we can compel mediation in this kind of case,

    but it s something you all ought to talk about. That s

    option one. That would build in some time for discovery and

    perhaps a Pretrial Conference to see if the case can be

    settled and then if it s not, set for trial. Then it would

    be set for trial.

    The other option I guess potentially is just to g

    ahead and give you you know a trial date on the -- what s

    pending , is a motion to enforce and if there s a request fo

    declaratory -- subject to declaratory relief.

    I m okay with

    either of those. So if you all want to weigh in on that

    I   ll give yo u a chance. Otherwise, I ll just discuss it on

    my own , Erin McCarthy .

    MS. SCHAEFFER:

    Your Honor, since I m not primary

    counsel on this case, would it be okay if I spoke to my

    client?

    THE COURT: Of course.

    (Counsel and Plaintiff confer.)

    THE COURT:

    So the motion for summary judgment is

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    THE COURT: And if either side wants to weigh in

    2 on what track we ought sort of take with the case, shoot me

    3 an e - mail with a copy to the other side .

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    MS. SCHAEFFER: Okay.

    THE COURT: Okay .

    MS. WARREN: Could you - -

    THE COURT: I m not saying I m going to abide by

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    MS. SCHAEFFER: That s perfect. Thank you,

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    MR. CHAMBERLAIN: How about Auburn University?

    THE COURT: Okay, I will see you guys later. Hav

    day.

    MS.

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    Your Honor.

    MS.

    WARREN: Thank

    you.

    THE

    COURT:

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    THE

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    All rise.

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