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Visioning Gathering – October 22 Table Top Notes 2011 1 Open Spaces: Cole Harbour Basin October 28, 2011 Sheet 1 Theme Recreation on the estuary itself (boating, canoeing on lakes) Schools are a draw Recreation was an attraction esp.w/a 13yr old Proximity to downtown….transit Design play structures…creative/unique…not from a catalogue Connect up open spaces Draw out uniqueness of each space Open/accessible waterfront can do wonders Take ideas fr. Kids Warm swimming around the railway path Transit access to open spaces Parking too small @ Rainbow Haven…don‟t ticket….adequate parking Put up small-scale wind turbines for awareness/change thoughts….power concession stand Calgary bike trails are wonderful, wide open & accessible railway tracks Make existing infrastructure better….maintain the open spaces Access/connections to public spaces better Murals Public art that speaks to the community (dolphin bike racks) Keep the kids here! Not usual playground something original. Better quality to begin with. Need arts culture focus. Rock concerts Central outdoor multi-serviced area Lots of business & sports but there is no arts/culture…need more arts/culture Signage/wayfinding central map area Macdonald tea house views Build on uniqueness…look offs….fauna Traffic a problem @R.H. Do something w/ (interpret) geology. Mineville. Rainbow Haven Lawrencetown/CH trail connect to Keltic Gardens (subdivision) Connect subdivisions to open spaces Public art!
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Page 1: Table Top notes Oct 22 Gathering

Visioning Gathering – October 22

Table Top Notes

2011

1 Open Spaces: Cole Harbour Basin

October 28, 2011

Sheet 1

Theme Recreation on the estuary itself (boating, canoeing on lakes)

Schools are a draw Recreation was an attraction esp.w/a 13yr old Proximity to downtown….transit Design play structures…creative/unique…not from a catalogue Connect up open spaces

Draw out uniqueness of each space Open/accessible waterfront can do wonders Take ideas fr. Kids Warm swimming around the railway path Transit access to open spaces

Parking too small @ Rainbow Haven…don‟t ticket….adequate parking Put up small-scale wind turbines for awareness/change thoughts….power

concession stand

Calgary bike trails are wonderful, wide open & accessible railway tracks Make existing infrastructure better….maintain the open spaces Access/connections to public spaces better Murals Public art that speaks to the community (dolphin bike racks)

Keep the kids here! Not usual playground something original. Better quality to begin with. Need arts culture focus. Rock concerts Central outdoor multi-serviced area Lots of business & sports but there is no arts/culture…need more arts/culture

Signage/wayfinding central map area Macdonald tea house views Build on uniqueness…look offs….fauna Traffic a problem @R.H. Do something w/ (interpret) geology. Mineville. Rainbow Haven

Lawrencetown/CH trail connect to Keltic Gardens (subdivision) Connect subdivisions to open spaces Public art!

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Visioning Gathering – October 22

Table Top Notes

2011

2 Open Spaces: Cole Harbour Basin

October 28, 2011

Sheet 2

Proper planning Would like to see Colby Village type but planned development so “upscale” &

green

Safe walking trails within communities connecting parks, recreational facilities, libraries nearby

Wildlife how can we protect habitat…the wildlife in Lawrencetown area Protect scenic views (where height cell towers bldgs.) How to accommodate various uses of beach areas…kiters, surfers, walkers,

horse riders, picnic, dog areas, wildlife Restricting developers then something to compensate those who maintain

greenspaces leaving individual families to pay the burden of maintaining….ie taxes for undeveloped land

Would like the area to be kept as undeveloped and natural/rural as possible Means for more community involvement/participation Pg 1 #3 question options are all about development not protecting habitat for

wildlife or non use

Circles of green space and suburbs develop around them Wetlands/marshes…protect…wetlands can be developed c

Retain rural nature/controlled development Transit opportunities Education/respect for amenities Community participation (horses/atv) Means to deconflict means to collaborate

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Visioning Gathering – October 22

Table Top Notes

2011

3 Open Spaces: Cole Harbour Basin

October 28, 2011

Sheet 3

Cole Harbour Harvest Festival Lawrencetown Surfing Competition

Mineville Outdoor Recreational Festival Estuary

o last open space on estuary went to landowner was protected, but owner kept filling in the natural wetland w/ dirt

& rocks developer built it up to make usable land built houses destroyed natural habitat – wildlife gone

Access to natural spaces (beaches, lakes, rivers, etc.) o Connect communities by active transportation o Trails would be a clean, active living o Connect rec. fishing, hiking o Being connected to natural spaces & educational opportunities

Community gardening opportunity „bring back the farm‟ – promote „living off the land‟

Set up interpretive centers. (types of birds, animals, plants, etc. native to area) Conservation easements Better quality access Focus on what we have

o Improve existing

Adequate parking Solve emergency access issue

Shuttle bus to major attractions (ie. Rainbow Haven) Protect natural habitat – keep space for animals Have community design play structures to be built

o Promote creativity & reflect community locally

Protection o Need protection but not at land owners expense o Compensate land owners who have valued land but are not allowed to use

it for personal gain o Protect land owners

Access

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Visioning Gathering – October 22

Table Top Notes

2011

4 Open Spaces: Cole Harbour Basin

October 28, 2011

Sheet 4

Proposed sewage outfall going into Cole Harbour: people in Cole Hrb. (Ritcey, Settle, etc) rallied against that plan

Preserving the Coastal Heritage Park lands started by farmers, residents of Cole HArbour (Bissets, Giles, etc) who owned the lands…… for future generations enjoy it like they did.

Accessible Safe Protected Connected

Teaching tool Ownership/community pride Reclaim our rivers & lakes through education Sustainable CH Assets of attractions to newcomers

Relevant Information source

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Visioning Gathering – October 22

Table Top Notes

2011

5 Open Spaces: Cole Harbour Basin

October 28, 2011

Sheet 5

Rainbow Haven fantastic Families use trails

Community wardens History of agriculture Can‟t eat money Improve public transport to Rainbow Haven Traffic control…sidewalks….shuttle….trails

History of community Saltmarsh trails gives solace and quiet Sacred green spaces Balanced thoughtful development Not rezoned….not used for other

Cole Harbour Festival Sliding on Ritcey Hill Spaces provide family connections Easier to walk to places….alternative routes….safety Schools have outdoor classrooms

Community veggie gardens Sustain? Where does longterm mtu $ come from? Avoid big box stores Streets more self contained ie services Streets less drive through

Community information center Information about open space, directions to destinations…interpretation Preservation pro-active development positive growth

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Visioning Gathering – October 22

Table Top Notes

2011

6 Open Spaces: Cole Harbour Basin

October 28, 2011

Sheet 6

who manages and maintains the open spaces – are they all identified! When the land owners who now maintain some of these areas are gone who is

going to look after it? No protection for the private land owners

Public education Planned development Re-establish farming elements of the community Clearly identify the spaces usage Green spaces must be sacred & not re-zoned

Use properties….open harbor….drive down to waters edge Available….Identified….designated Maintained Protected…proper planning for services Rural life is a draw Tranquility

The lost world Harvest festival When there is a threat Salt Marsh Trail Running Club Cole Harbour Place expansion

You can‟t stop progress…but plan it well!

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Visioning Gathering – October 22

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2011

7 Open Spaces: Cole Harbour Basin

October 28, 2011

Sheet 7

Natural environment of neighbourhoods open to all Buffer zones (water)

Protection of viewplanes Meeting spaces (ie red barn)….gathering place/highlight heritage/rest

spot…builds social experience

Plan never complete Add open spaces as communities develop Plan ahead User fee vs free parks, trails, water….balance….sportsfield affordable

Long term cost a very important factor to consider at outset Sustainability Land use – to allow for use by both people and pets Protection…preservation…public Interpretive signage Environmental of ecosystem….enhancement and restoration

Ensure important public space be maintained for public use ie community coastal access sites

Balance…private vs public….between who pays to maintain views over open spaces

Connectivity and accessibility…physical…social

Stewardship: educational aspect

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Visioning Gathering – October 22

Table Top Notes

2011

8 Open Spaces: Cole Harbour Basin

October 28, 2011

Sheet 8

Suggestions: o Showers/washrooms canteen @ Conrad‟s Beach o No motorized vehicles on trails o Farmers market in Cole Harbour Place o Bike lane on Lawrencetown Road/Cole Harbour Road & Bissett Road &

Cow Bay Road o Harvest Festival at Cole Harbour Place o Surfing competitions…bike races to/at Lawrencetown Beach o Washrooms/showers/canteen – Lawrencetown…Rainbow Haven o Traffic light @ Ross Road o Traffic light @ Bisset & Cole Harbour o Review transportation objectives to trails in Cole Harbour/Bissett Road

area o On road bike trails o Protecting existing buildings

Future Treasures o Playground/park on Seabreeze Heights (Lawrencetown) o Meeting place/coffee shop/farmers in old red barn area (like Bike „n Barn

St Margarets Baycake or Public Gardens café) o Coffee shop @ Lawrencetown Beach o Extend season of Lawrencetown Beach washrooms o Bike lanes Bissett, Lawrencetown, Cole Harbour & Cow Bay Roads o Bus routes to Lawrencetown & Cow Bay o Bus for Rainbow Haven to cut on the traffic

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Visioning Gathering – October 22

Table Top Notes

2011

9 Open Spaces: Cole Harbour Basin

October 28, 2011

Sheet 9

Pool/tennis complex Parks & trails/DNR rails Route 207 – cycling

Harvest festival – CHP Baseball/soccer Hurricane Juan clean-up efforts Wildfire 2008 “Horses”/boarding & trails Old road corridors Farm & meeting house heritage areas Viewplanes Coastal parks Beaches

Joey Dipeta 2007 Sid Crosby 2009 Stanley Cups Spaces need to be:

o Maintained o Multi-functional o Exciting

Keep the beauty 1 – multifunctional 2- well maintained 3 – natural open spaces

o Beaches

Broader scope of parks Unique parks

o Connect them o More connection to trails

Rehab centre – Bissett Rd?? Protect lands Access to trails

Outdoor venues Function for wildlife as well as people Wall art How to let people know of it all

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Visioning Gathering – October 22

Table Top Notes

2011

10 Open Spaces: Cole Harbour Basin

October 28, 2011

Sheet 10

Put it to work (Tim) o Public voice o Steering committee/stakeholder o HRM (tech team)

Process of Cge…. Etiquette (Rach) Smart design of open spaces Maintenance costs of development Continuation of recreation spaces

o Natural state & built spaces maintained too o Integrating multi-use of spaces o Stewards of spaces o Ownership & community involvement

Protection of habitat for animals & humans Transit in & around area not just through

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Visioning Gathering – October 22

Table Top Notes

2011

11 Open Spaces: Cole Harbour Basin

October 28, 2011

Sheet 11

“Save the open spaces from future encroachment because when we are gone our grandchildren are stuck with our mistakes. Keep accountable”

For the future the open spaces must be SACRED & they don‟t have to be used all the time – they are still valuable & needed. Don‟t get rid of them.

Keep the public trails to a minimum & not huge parking lots. All of the above will be better for wildlife.

Maintain the greenbelts – we need oxygen from the trees Opportunities for unstructured activities that are safe for children – today parents

are so fearful due to media pressure

Camping facilities are needed in this area Encourage use of all the open space & sports areas! We need bicycle trails!

Enhanced transit Long term sustainability The McKees came to Cole Harbour because of the farm & the socially involved

running the farm – a huge sense of community

The old railway trail is the most wonderful part of the Cross Canada Trail & it is very well used by the community – almost a meeting place

It used to be all open spaces until the community encroached upon it….this as gone on for 200 years….in the 1960‟s the l…….

Nora (painter) – no place better for a variety of wonderful scenes to paint. I never run out of something to excite me.

Joan E… & husband chose the Bisset Road location for their business & home when they stood there & saw a horse under a chestnut tree it was home!

Spaces….doesn‟t deteriorate get ignored….is kept up even if (apparently) underused

Multipurpose spaces…good use of our taxes – we have to believe it is!

New barn incorporate information centre…interpretive centre….visitor centre. Land for unstructured use

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Visioning Gathering – October 22

Table Top Notes

2011

12 Open Spaces: Cole Harbour Basin

October 28, 2011

Sheet 12

Question #3 - Core Themes

o Protection

History Wildlife

Natural beauty

o Flexible Useage

Generations Multi-useage

o Community input/volunteer help

o Some non-developed/non rural areas o Don‟t develop everywhere until you have protection for natural spaces

Major tournaments

Sydney

Special events

High profile – NS Power lines

o Political issues Community involvement – buy in

Safe

Advertise they exist

Monitored to a degree

Accessible all modes

Too many rules. None

Well invested maintained

Some non developed spaces

Save what we have! Protected

Flexible

o Multi-use

o Multi season use o Multi purpose

o Multi generational

Question #2 Accessed on a regular basis

o Salt marsh o Estuary

o Beaches o lawrencetown

Community engagement regular basis

Protected wildlife….support to/for volunteer

Maintain history

Keep as natural as possible

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Visioning Gathering – October 22

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2011

13 Open Spaces: Cole Harbour Basin

October 28, 2011

Sheet 13

I would like more sidewalks To build more playgrounds for the kids

Places for fun Playgrounds & walking trails Music to my ears…..

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Visioning Gathering – October 22

Table Top Notes

2011

14 Open Spaces: Cole Harbour Basin

October 28, 2011

Sheet 14

Maintain….restore…protect! Two rules

Consistency….follow through…..long term planning All inclusive 1) HRM, 2) Trans Canada Trail, 3) Health New technology for STP/on-site Limitations to central sewershed capacity….possible diversion to Dartmouth STP

Community gardens Signs to connect to parks & trails Liveable neighbourhoods Recreation areas….commons/amphitheatre Safe transportation corridors….#7/#207/#107

An organized and controlled dog-park Open spaces need to become? Old Rehab property? Seniors housing? Cultural recreation

Events & alive o Cole Harbour festival & parade o Canada games o Cup parade o Treasure event – CHP o Surfing events o Fireworks o Heritage farm – folk nights, suppers


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