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DUCATIONALDIFYINGVANGELICAL
DUCATIONALDIFYINGVANGELICAL Presented
by
Dr Thomas J KindellFounder & President of Reasons for Faith Ministries, Inc.
Presentedby
Dr Thomas J KindellFounder & President of Reasons for Faith Ministries, Inc.
“Be ready to give an answer to everyone who asks you a reason for the hope that is within you” I Peter 3:15
“Be ready to give an answer to everyone who asks you a reason for the hope that is within you” I Peter 3:15
A CRITIQUE OF TEXTBOOK
ARGUMENTS FOR THE GENERAL
THEORY OF EVOLUTION – Pt. 1
A CRITIQUE OF TEXTBOOK
ARGUMENTS FOR THE GENERAL
THEORY OF EVOLUTION – Pt. 1
MILLER’S FATAL FLAWSMILLER’S FATAL FLAWS
1. Exclusion of oxygen (UV oxygen dilemma) 1. Exclusion of oxygen (UV oxygen dilemma)
2. Inclusion of methane and ammonia 2. Inclusion of methane and ammonia
3. Unrealistic levels of UV light and electricity 3. Unrealistic levels of UV light and electricity
4. An artificial trap used to isolate compounds 4. An artificial trap used to isolate compounds
6. 99% of compounds produced were toxic 6. 99% of compounds produced were toxic
5. The few amino acids were 50% racemic 5. The few amino acids were 50% racemic
FIFTY YEARS OF FAILUREFIFTY YEARS OF FAILURE
1. No success producing all 20 amino acids1. No success producing all 20 amino acids
2. No success producing all 4 nucleotides 2. No success producing all 4 nucleotides
3. No satisfactory synthesis of sugars3. No satisfactory synthesis of sugars
4. No satisfactory synthesis of fatty acids 4. No satisfactory synthesis of fatty acids
6. No exclusive production of biological units 6. No exclusive production of biological units
5. No successful synthesis of non-racemates 5. No successful synthesis of non-racemates
ADDITIONAL FATAL ROADBLOCKS
ADDITIONAL FATAL ROADBLOCKS
1. Water – Vastly favors depolymerization 1. Water – Vastly favors depolymerization
2. The laws of chemical cross-reaction 2. The laws of chemical cross-reaction
3. Instability of building block molecules 3. Instability of building block molecules
4. No physical evidence of a primordial soup4. No physical evidence of a primordial soup
5. No reasonable mathematical probability5. No reasonable mathematical probability
All right-handed sugars…… 1/10300All right-handed sugars…… 1/10300
All correct biological bonds…… 1/10300All correct biological bonds…… 1/10300
Exclusion of non-biological units…… 1/101000Exclusion of non-biological units…… 1/101000
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“Six monkeys, set to strum unintelligently on typewriters for millions
of years, would be bound in time to write
all the books in the British Museum.”
Sir James Jeans, The Mysterious Universe, p. 4, NY, Macmillan & Co
“Six monkeys, set to strum unintelligently on typewriters for millions
of years, would be bound in time to write
all the books in the British Museum.”
Sir James Jeans, The Mysterious Universe, p. 4, NY, Macmillan & Co
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable
rights, that among these are life liberty and the pursuit of
happiness.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable
rights, that among these are life liberty and the pursuit of
happiness.
1080 – number of monkeys involved1080 – number of monkeys involved
1010 – random sequences per second1010 – random sequences per second
1020 – seconds (approx 3 trillion years)1020 – seconds (approx 3 trillion years)
10110 – total random sequences10110 – total random sequences
10280 – probability of success by chance10280 – probability of success by chance
10170 – resultant probability = zero!10170 – resultant probability = zero!
…more than 40 years of work has failed to produce
any convincing detailed scheme as to how living cells could have evolved
from simple organic molecules.
Palmer, T., Controversy: Catastrophism & Evolution, Kluwer Academic, 1999, p. 264
…more than 40 years of work has failed to produce
any convincing detailed scheme as to how living cells could have evolved
from simple organic molecules.
Palmer, T., Controversy: Catastrophism & Evolution, Kluwer Academic, 1999, p. 264
The origin of life. There is no consensus at all here –
lots of theories, little science. That’s one of the reasons we didn’t cover it
in the [PBS] series. The evidence wasn’t very good.
PBS producer Richard Hutton, Washington Post online forum
The origin of life. There is no consensus at all here –
lots of theories, little science. That’s one of the reasons we didn’t cover it
in the [PBS] series. The evidence wasn’t very good.
PBS producer Richard Hutton, Washington Post online forum
“It’s a shame that there are precious few hard facts when it comes to the origin of life... the
how part has everybody stumped. Nobody knows how a
mixture of lifeless chemicals spontaneously organized
themselves into the first living cell.”
Paul Davies (Australian Centre for Astrobiology, Macquarie Univ.), Born Lucky, New Scientist, Vol. 179 (2403):32, July 12, 2003
“It’s a shame that there are precious few hard facts when it comes to the origin of life... the
how part has everybody stumped. Nobody knows how a
mixture of lifeless chemicals spontaneously organized
themselves into the first living cell.”
Paul Davies (Australian Centre for Astrobiology, Macquarie Univ.), Born Lucky, New Scientist, Vol. 179 (2403):32, July 12, 2003
DEFINING TERMSDEFINING TERMS
What kind of “evolution” really occurs?What kind of “evolution” really occurs?
Most Modern Creationists Agree:Most Modern Creationists Agree:
•Descent with modification occurs•Descent with modification occurs
•Natural selection is an observable fact•Natural selection is an observable fact
•Speciation does occur•Speciation does occur
•Mutations produce inheritable changes•Mutations produce inheritable changes
•Change over time happens•Change over time happens
THE CREATIONIST CONTENTIONTHE CREATIONIST CONTENTION
The Observed Changes:The Observed Changes:
MutationsNatural SelectionSpeciation
MutationsNatural SelectionSpeciation
All take place without any information gain which is required for the general theory of evolution to be true. In fact, such changes
only result in segregation, corruption and loss of information.
All take place without any information gain which is required for the general theory of evolution to be true. In fact, such changes
only result in segregation, corruption and loss of information.
H. Pylori(Helicobacter pylori)
Antibiotic
Absorbed through the
cell wall
H. Pylori produces an enzyme that
converts theantibiotic into
a poison.
The poison kills the bacterium.
H. pylori Antibiotic
Absorbed through the
cell wall
Mutant H. pylorilacks the ability
to produce enzyme.
MUTANT
Ha Ha Ha!
No enzymeNo poisonNo death
Survived because of
LESS information
Some further examples of mutational loss of information
causing an advantage preserved by natural selection:
Some further examples of mutational loss of information
causing an advantage preserved by natural selection:
- Flightless Beetles- Flightless Beetles
- Eyeless Cave Fish- Eyeless Cave Fish
- Sickle Cell Trait- Sickle Cell Trait
The gene pool of the new variety is more limited than before and less able to adapt to future changes. Chihuahuas cannot produce Great Danes.
The gene pool of the new variety is more limited than before and less able to adapt to future changes. Chihuahuas cannot produce Great Danes. Genetic information was lost not added.Genetic information was lost not added.
Just as in a real book misprints are more likely to
produce nonsense than better sense, so mutations
will almost always be deleterious, almost always,
in fact, they will kill the organism or the cell...
John C. Kendrew, The Thread of Life, Harvard Univ Press, pp 106-107
Just as in a real book misprints are more likely to
produce nonsense than better sense, so mutations
will almost always be deleterious, almost always,
in fact, they will kill the organism or the cell...
John C. Kendrew, The Thread of Life, Harvard Univ Press, pp 106-107
The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog.The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog.
The duick brown aox jumps over the lazf eog.The duick brown aox jumps over the lazf eog.
The duick brosn aox iumps over the lazf eog.The duick brosn aox iumps over the lazf eog.
An accident, a random change, in any delicate mechanism can hardly be expected
to improve it. Poking a stick into the machinery of one’s watch or one’s radio
set will seldom make it work better. Theodosius Dobzhansky, Heredity and the Nature of Man, p. 105
An accident, a random change, in any delicate mechanism can hardly be expected
to improve it. Poking a stick into the machinery of one’s watch or one’s radio
set will seldom make it work better. Theodosius Dobzhansky, Heredity and the Nature of Man, p. 105
We have seen that living things are too improbable and too
beautifully “designed” to have come into
existence by chance.Richard Dawkins, The Blind Watchmaker, W. W.
Norton & Co., New York, p. 43
We have seen that living things are too improbable and too
beautifully “designed” to have come into
existence by chance.Richard Dawkins, The Blind Watchmaker, W. W.
Norton & Co., New York, p. 43
DESIGNED BY THE BLIND
WATCHMAKER?
DESIGNED BY THE BLIND
WATCHMAKER?
Evolutions “watchmaker” is both blind and
brainless.
Evolutions “watchmaker” is both blind and
brainless.
THE NATURAL SELECTION DECEPTION
THE NATURAL SELECTION DECEPTION
1. It can’t be invoked for prebiotic evolution.1. It can’t be invoked for prebiotic evolution.
“I would like to plead with you, simply, please realize you cannot use the words, ‘natural selection’
loosely. Prebiological natural selection is a contradiction in
terms.”
T. Dobzhansky, The Origins of Pregiological Systems and of Their Molecular Matrices, p. 11, 1965
“I would like to plead with you, simply, please realize you cannot use the words, ‘natural selection’
loosely. Prebiological natural selection is a contradiction in
terms.”
T. Dobzhansky, The Origins of Pregiological Systems and of Their Molecular Matrices, p. 11, 1965
THE NATURAL SELECTION DECEPTION
THE NATURAL SELECTION DECEPTION
2. Natural selection has no creative power2. Natural selection has no creative power
Natural selection has no consciousness, intelligence,
foresight or creative capability at all. It is at the mercy of random processes because it can only select what random mutations
create.
Natural selection has no consciousness, intelligence,
foresight or creative capability at all. It is at the mercy of random processes because it can only select what random mutations
create.
“For a greatly improved eye or brain to appear suddenly, a
thousand such changes [mutations] must occur at once in a single animal, all accidental, and yet in a favorable direction.
That would be as unlikely as to toss a coin in the air and have it come up heads a thousand times
in a row.”R. Jastrow, “Selection for Perfection,” Science Digest, December, 1981, p. 86
“For a greatly improved eye or brain to appear suddenly, a
thousand such changes [mutations] must occur at once in a single animal, all accidental, and yet in a favorable direction.
That would be as unlikely as to toss a coin in the air and have it come up heads a thousand times
in a row.”R. Jastrow, “Selection for Perfection,” Science Digest, December, 1981, p. 86
1024 – planets involved1024 – planets involved
1016 – square feet per planet1016 – square feet per planet
1010 – worms per square foot1010 – worms per square foot
1013 – mutations per worm per year1013 – mutations per worm per year
1014 – years of time allowed1014 – years of time allowed
1077 – total sequences attempted1077 – total sequences attempted
1 in 10223 – resultant probability = zero!1 in 10223 – resultant probability = zero!
WORMS EVOLVING AN EYE WITH A 1 IN 2 PROBABILITY OF GETTING A GOOD
MUTATION VERSUS A LETHAL MUTATION
WORMS EVOLVING AN EYE WITH A 1 IN 2 PROBABILITY OF GETTING A GOOD
MUTATION VERSUS A LETHAL MUTATION
ADP + PI
ATP
Kreb’s Cycle
Initiation of glycolysis requires
ATP molecules
Initiation of glycolysis requires
ATP molecules
THE PROBLEM – RANDOM PROCESSES (INCLUDING MUTATIONS) DON’T
PRODUCE INFORMATION SYSTEMS
THE PROBLEM – RANDOM PROCESSES (INCLUDING MUTATIONS) DON’T
PRODUCE INFORMATION SYSTEMS
“There is no known natural law through which matter can give
rise to information, neither is any physical process or
material phenomenon known that can do this.”
Werner Gitt, In the Beginning Was Information, p. 64-67, 1997
“There is no known natural law through which matter can give
rise to information, neither is any physical process or
material phenomenon known that can do this.”
Werner Gitt, In the Beginning Was Information, p. 64-67, 1997
THE PROBLEM – RANDOM PROCESSES (INCLUDING MUTATIONS) DON’T
PRODUCE INFORMATION SYSTEMS
THE PROBLEM – RANDOM PROCESSES (INCLUDING MUTATIONS) DON’T
PRODUCE INFORMATION SYSTEMS
“Biological information is not encoded in the laws of physics
and chemistry...(and it) cannot come into existence
spontaneously...There is no known law of physics able to create information from nothing.”
Paul Davies, Life force, New Scientist, 163(2204):27-30, Sept 18, 1999
“Biological information is not encoded in the laws of physics
and chemistry...(and it) cannot come into existence
spontaneously...There is no known law of physics able to create information from nothing.”
Paul Davies, Life force, New Scientist, 163(2204):27-30, Sept 18, 1999
THE PROBLEM – RANDOM PROCESSES (INCLUDING MUTATIONS) DON’T
PRODUCE INFORMATION SYSTEMS
THE PROBLEM – RANDOM PROCESSES (INCLUDING MUTATIONS) DON’T
PRODUCE INFORMATION SYSTEMS
“Any living thing possesses an enormous amount of ‘intelligence’...Today, this
‘intelligence’ is called ‘information,’ but it is still the same thing...This ‘intelligence’ is the sine qua non of life. If absent, no living being
is imaginable. Where does it come from? This is a problem which concerns both
biologists and philosophers, and, at present, science seems incapable of solving it.”
P. Grasse, Evolution of Living Organisms, Academic Press, 1977, p. 13
“Any living thing possesses an enormous amount of ‘intelligence’...Today, this
‘intelligence’ is called ‘information,’ but it is still the same thing...This ‘intelligence’ is the sine qua non of life. If absent, no living being
is imaginable. Where does it come from? This is a problem which concerns both
biologists and philosophers, and, at present, science seems incapable of solving it.”
P. Grasse, Evolution of Living Organisms, Academic Press, 1977, p. 13
THE PROBLEM – RANDOM PROCESSES (INCLUDING MUTATIONS) DON’T
PRODUCE INFORMATION SYSTEMS
THE PROBLEM – RANDOM PROCESSES (INCLUDING MUTATIONS) DON’T
PRODUCE INFORMATION SYSTEMS
“...but if Mayr’s characterization of the synthetic theory is accurate, then that theory
[mutations/selection], as a general proposition, is effectively
dead, despite its persistence as textbook orthodoxy.”Stephen J. Gould, Paleobiology, 6(1):120, 1980
“...but if Mayr’s characterization of the synthetic theory is accurate, then that theory
[mutations/selection], as a general proposition, is effectively
dead, despite its persistence as textbook orthodoxy.”Stephen J. Gould, Paleobiology, 6(1):120, 1980
CONCLUSIONCONCLUSIONNothing in biology makes sense outside of the theory of evolution.
T. Dobzhansky
Nothing in biology makes sense outside of the theory of evolution.
T. DobzhanskyNothing in biology makes sense outside of the evidence.
Nothing in biology makes sense outside of the evidence. Nothing in biology makes sense outside of explaining the origin of information.
Nothing in biology makes sense outside of explaining the origin of information.
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