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Contents
Masthead
Robert Searight [Snarky Puppy]Sput: Te First Drummer in Space
Open Letters A Conversation with Dame Evelyn Glennie
A Model Citizen Matt Nolan: Cymbalsmith
On Gospel DrummingDan Stadnicki
Win!
An Introspective Exorcism
Mogwai’s Martin Bulloch
A Call o Arms
he Head CountBen Martin
Support
A Familiar FaceDom Famularo
Subscriptions/Newsletter
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Ok, Ok. Well let’s start at the beginning. You’re romDallas, right? I know that much. Y, D, , . M . M . M . M . A I . I I j .
So you played in Church? Y, I , I C.
So is that how your interest in music became more ormal?F?
Well, you studied music at school and college, right? Wasthat inuenced by what you learned in Church? W, - ’ . F , I j I f . T I A M D I . I’ N J, R H, T D C, E B, .
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“Stayin’ in the same hotel rooms.Getting up at the same time. Leaving atthe same time. Load in at the same time.
here’s a relationship that orms.”
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What were your early inuences?I’ - M R A B. B R ’ – I , I I I . R B, , . T . T W, P J J E J. L I M C, M M, D G, S G, H M, R L. B M J S T H F. H’ . I .
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Bernard Wright? I would usually just pretend to know who he is but I’maraid I don’t. W, , , , – . A, M j, .
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So what instigated the change? A f, I , ’ . T B U T B . S, M , , , M .
So you got the other guy red?!N, S M I’ . I , .
Speaking o studios, Snarky Puppy’s relationship with thestudio has become quite unique. I mean, I guess the rst releases were done in quite a traditional ashion, recordings
with overdubs and that sort o stuf, but now you’ve movedinto this scenario where you’re recording entirely live with anaudience in the studio. How did that evolution track out?T .
So you’re a live band?
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You actually built it? W, , G U DVD , .
When you watch that DVD the whole thing looksimmeasurably un.
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Youube has played quite an importaprole exponentially increasing… Y, . I - UK ’ Y ’ . I
Te band’s outlook on the state o tunusually rereshing in the sense thapositive with regards to the current statM?
Well, more rom an industry perspectiall doom and gloom about it.
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So that’s why the band do a lot o creative outreach sort o stuf? Y, . I , ’ ’ . T – .
You probably get asked this a lot, but where doesa Snarky Puppy song start?M. H’ . I , ’ . W . H MP – . S , f . S ’ . T f f M , ’ .
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You’ve done a lot o session stuf too right? Y, I’ ’ .
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Has that part o your career changed with time? W, , , . T , . A , . W I ? I’ . I . E.I .
I’d say it paid of, yeah.(L) Y.
What is your role as the drummer?F, , . I’ , , N W, . W , . S, ‘, , . F. L . M .
What I like about Snarky is how you handle virtuosity. Everyonein the band is such a skilled musician, but when you think about British Prog Rock, or example, a lot o people disliked it
because the music was sel-indulgent. But you guys have nailedthe boundary between musicality and indulgence. I wonderedhow you managed to do that. W’ . E . W’ j , . B , 75 , ’ , . S’ . G . L . L .T’ ; ’ . A . I’ . F
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venues in some respect as that’s where people would go tointeract with music. For you, are music and aith pretty muchentwined? Y. I . I C. I’ C. I I’ I’ . W I, ’ . A ’ . W ’ , ’ j . Y . M ’ , . P . S f - f ’ . S I I I j I I . I’ I . W’ . W’
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Te Drummer’s Journal: Did you eel that the drumming aspect o theLondon 2012 opening ceremony, when it was initially discussed, was a bit risky given that China airly nailed that?D E G: A – q. I , C . F, , , ? S ? ? M . T , “I’ .” S , “
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Te 2012 Paralympics made people think diferently about disability. In 1993 you wrote an essay about how hearing is poorly understood in general. Do you eelpublic perception o disability has gotten better sincethen?I . I ’ ’ . I f , P, . W ,, ’ - f
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he Drummer’s Journal: Let’s start of with the usual. What initially interested you in drums andmusic generally?M B: I . A
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Did you study music in school?I q ’ . I ’ f I 8 . I I .
You’re rom Blantyre, right? Might people be interested in holidaying there?H I ’ . I EK, T J M C. I .
Te band’s inuences, as a whole, are already quite well documented. Names such as Slint, Fugazi,Sonic Youth and the Pixies seem to crop up quite oten. Did you have any o your own – maybespecically rom a drumming perspective - bands or individuals who inormed how you play?I R S R
“y ou’re from BlAntyre, right? might people Be interested in holidAying there?
It certainly isn’t the type o place you would holiday in. I anyone is thinkingo going, please pack some chain mail.”
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Was a career in music something you aimed or?N. I , I q f . I I ’ I’ .
Do you consider yoursel solely a drummer, or are there other important roles you’ve adopted? J , I’ .
Has your outlook or approach to playing changed signicantly since Mogwai rst started out? Are there things you take in to considerationnow that you never did then, and vice versa? A. I ’ .I q, . I S j , I j . I ’ I I I .
In your opinion what are the most signicant ways the band haschanged since the release o Young eam in 1997?B ’ . S E . I f . I ’ Y MII, I . I j . H ’.
What inorms the way you approach a drum track? Tis i s a wanky thing to say, but I like how yourplaying seems to open up space. So, or example, when there’s a wall o dense sound - lot o efects,distortion, uzz or general busyness rom other instruments - the drums can keep it rom sounding cluttered. Feel ree to tell me that’s bullshit though.
“I think we have a great deal oemotional detachmentto the songs. he greatthing about our tunes
is that they meandierent things todierent people.”
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1 - Young eam [Pg. ]
1 - Come On Die Young
2001 - Rock Action
2003 - Happy Songs For Ha
200 - Mr Beast
200 - he Hawk Is Howlin
2010 - Special Moves
2011 - Hardcore Will Neve
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How much attention do you give to achieving a specic drum sound?T’ . I , T -. I . W I ’ .
Tere is a quite a strong emotional element people attach to Mogwai’s music. And was the re-release o Young eam in any way nostalgic?I ’ ’ . O ’ f I . T - Y , . T , I .
With some o the records your own label Rock Action put out, specically this still a very physical element to the music; the limited edition vinyl box sand Hardcore Will Never Die are good examples. As someone with a stake inphysical product still something that is important to you?I , . T , I . I’ -
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You recently provided the soundtrack or a French zombie V drama called Le watched it yet? Y, I I F, I ’ . C 4 ’ .
You also did the same or the documentary Zidane: A 21st Century Portrait. H were playing in the nal o the Champions League but you were scheduled to pthe same night and miss the game, which would take precedence?I’ . W C UEFA
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From what I’ve read, you seem to be quite the che. Do you see yoursel as a culinary authority? I triedmaking my own bread yesterday and it was a catastrophic ailure. It was more like atbread. Wheredid I most likely go wrong?H D’ . B ’ é . I C E K .
Would you be so kind as to share a recipe with us? J… O:
J ApAnese fish curry
Get some white sh, season it, coat it in four and then dip it in some beaten egg.Once it’s covered coat it in some Panko breadcrumbs and set it aside.
Fry some onion, garlic and ginger in butter until sotened and then set aside. Add two
tablespoons o butter to the pan, melt it at a low heat and add plain four and curry powder (I use Malaysian) to make a roux. Gradually add some nice stock (whatever takes your ancy - chicken, sh or veg) and whisk it into the curry/four/butter to orm the sauce. I usually use about 500 to 750ml o stock and then once it’s at a good consistency add the garlic, onion and
ginger and about one to two teaspoons o garam masala.
Oh aye, when you‘re doing all that, ry your sh too. Few minutes each side should do it.
I sometimes substitute chicken or sh. Serve with rice.
Tere ye go, enjoy!
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Te Drummer’s Journal: It’s Your Move was the rst book I was evto many other instructional books as its ocus is on how you’re pl
Let: Dom’sbestselling book ‘It’s your move’
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what you’re playing. Can you explain the title?D F: I’ Y M , ’ q , I , “ .” I’ ; , “’ .” Y ,
Te book’s subtitle “Motions and Emotions” is quite cryptic too…M E O P
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So the emotive aspect o it, you eel the drum set is an emotive inexpresses emotion? A. I . W S . W B , ’ . T’ ’ , ’
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down, grit your teeth and practise these exercises. R, I I’ Y M. W’ ’ . P ’ . T . I . H .P, . U , . I , .
Currently in the UK they want toreorm the school system because they think it’s too easy or students. Te topuniversities can no longer distinguish thetop tier pupils because there are so many.I wondered, as an educator, how you
view the ways in which society impartsknowledge?I . I I 7. T’ 4 . I’ I . T’ 48 . I
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perormer. A. A , I U K. T’ 6 I’ , I’ . A I’ . E, j . I ‘ .’ I . A . S , ’ .
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jokes and gags. He does this because he believes that comedy isuniversally appealing. With your experience, would you say thedrum set has a universal appeal too? A. C - ’ -
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