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TECHNICAL COMMITTEE ON Loss Prevention Procedures and Practices

AGENDA

Second Draft Adobe Connect/Conference Call Meeting

Quincy, MA

February 6, 2014 10:00-6:00 PM EDT

1. Welcome. Joe Cocciardi, Chair

2. Introduction of Committee Members, New Members and Attendees

3. Approval of Minutes of Previous Meeting-May 9-10, 2013 (attached)

4. Staff updates-Nancy Pearce

a) Committee membership update. b) Fall 2014 revision cycle schedule.

c) New Process Presentation-second draft meetings. 5. Review of Public Comments NFPA 600 (attached) 6. New Business: New project submission (attached) Other business. 7. Adjournment

TECHNICAL COMMITTEE ON

Loss Prevention Procedures and Practices Minutes-First Draft Meetings

May 9-10th, 2013 8:00-5:00 PM EDT

and Follow-Up Conference Call

May 28th, 2013 9AM-11:AM EDT

Attendees: Joseph Cocciardi, Chair, Office of State Fire Marshal, PA

Charles Badeau, Peerless Insurance*

Bill Bekanich, Cocciardi and Associates

Thomas Caisse, FM Global

Jeff Cooper, Michelin North America, Inc

Stan Davis, PPL Susquehanna LLC

Mike DeVore, State Farm Insurance

Haruki Howell, McKee Foods

Craig Remsburg, Telgian Corp

Craig Steley, Honda of Canada, NFPA Industrial Fire Protection Section Rep.

Robert Stagg, Guardsmark*

Dariusz Szwarc, Nuclear Regulatory Commission

Paul Valentine, Nexus Engineering, International Fire Service Training Association Rep

Ray Webber, Proctor and Gamble, NFPA Industrial Fire Protection Section Rep.(alternate)

Guests:

John Lussi, PPL Susquehanna LLC (applied to committee)

Mike Stanley, NSO (applied to committee)

Nancy Pearce, NFPA Staff

*Conference call only

1. Welcome. Joe Cocciardi, Chair, welcomed the committee and outlined the agenda for the meeting.

2. Introductions. Committee Members and guests introduced themselves and their affiliations.

3. Approval of Minutes of Previous Meeting-January 29, 2013. Minutes of the previous conference call/meeting were approved.

4. Staff updates-Nancy Pearce gave a powerpoint presentation that outlined the committee membership, provided the Fall 2014 revision cycle schedule and reviewed the new process for document revision.

5. Review of Public Inputs NFPA 600 and NFPA 601. Public inputs for NFPA 600 were reviewed and completed. 6. Additional First Revision Consideration by the Committee. The Committee had extensive discussion about changing the name of the NFPA 600 document from “Industrial” to “Facility” Fire Brigade. The Committee decided that the use of the term industrial implied that the document was to be used only in manufacturing type settings and not for the broad intended settings including institutional educational, and all facilities where fire

brigades are established. The Committee also discussed reorganizing the document to relocate information currently in Chapter 1 to the applicable chapters in the document. Some of this reorganization was done to comply with the current NFPA Manual of Style. Other changes were proposed by Committee members as part of task group work that had been done prior to the meeting. The Committee discussed and voted on several changes/clarifications to be included in NFPA 601.

Task Groups reported on their findings and made recommendations to the full Committee. A number of Revisions were made based on recommendations from the task groups.

Meeting was adjourned at 1 PM EDT.

7. Next First Draft Meeting. The Committee did not fully complete all the revision work required. A follow up conference call was scheduled for May 28th at 9 AM EDT. The second First Draft Meeting was held on May 28th. The Committee completed review of all changes recommended by task groups. Chapter 4 had significant revisions. 8. Scheduling Second Draft Meeting. The Committee Chair will decide if an in person committee meeting is warranted based on the extent of public comment received on the First Draft. Ballot will be sent out to the

Committee no later than August 2, 2013 and the first draft report will be published on the NFPA document information page and out for public comment no later than September 6, 2013. 9. Adjournment. Meeting was concluded and adjourned at 11 AM on May 28th, 2013.

Address List No PhoneLoss Prevention Procedures and Practices LPP-AAA

Nancy Pearce01/08/2014

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Joseph A. Cocciardi

ChairCocciardi and Associates, Inc.4 Kacey CourtMechanicsburg, PA 17055Commonwealth of PennsylvaniaAlternate: William Bekanich

SE 4/28/2000LPP-AAA

Charles A. Badeau

PrincipalLiberty Mutual InsuranceRisk Control Services62 Maple Avenue, MS 209Keene, NH 03431Alternate: Kevin Phelan

I 03/07/2013

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Thomas L. Caisse

PrincipalFM Global270 Central AvenueJohnston, RI 02919

I 7/28/2006LPP-AAA

Jeff D. Cooper

PrincipalMichelin North America, Inc.1401 Antioch Church RoadPO Box 2846Greenville, SC 29602-9001

U 7/20/2000

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Stanford E. Davis

PrincipalPPL Susquehanna LLCSusquehanna Steam Electric Station769 Salem BoulevardBerwick, PA 18603Alternate: John Richard Lussi

U 1/1/1991LPP-AAA

Michael D. DeVore

PrincipalState Farm Insurance CompanyOne State Farm Plaza, C-2Bloomington, IL 61710-0001

I 3/2/2010

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Aaron D. Duff

PrincipalBristol-Myers Squibb Company1 Squibb Drive, Bldg. 102, Office 133New Brunswick, NJ 08903NFPA Industrial Fire Protection SectionHeavy ManufacturingAlternate: John A. Welling, III

U 8/2/2010LPP-AAA

Bill C. Greenwade

PrincipalRegional Reporting, Inc.1315 Church StreetMena, AR 71953

SE 04/17/2002

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David J. Hiscott, Jr.

PrincipalPhillips 66 TransportationEmergency Preparedness, Response & Security3010 Briarpark Drive, PWC-7330-29Houston, TX 77042American Petroleum Institute

U 4/17/2002LPP-AAA

Haruki Howell

PrincipalMcKee Foods CorporationPO Box 750Collegedale, TN 37315

U 10/29/2012

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Ryan Ludwick

PrincipalHemlock Semiconductor Corporation12334 Geddes RoadHemlock, MI 48626

U 10/18/2011LPP-AAA

Jeff Martin

PrincipalElite Fire Protection33605 Maclure Road, Unit #1Abbotsford, BC V2S 7W2 CanadaNational Association of Fire Equipment Distributors

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Craig P. Remsburg

PrincipalTelgian Corporation2615 South Industrial Park AvenueTempe, AZ 85282Alternate: Juan A. Olivari

SE 10/18/2011LPP-AAA

Jeffrey L. Robinson

PrincipalHarrington Group, Inc.Robinson Risk Consulting, LLC31 Russellwood CourtAiken, SC 29803-2508

SE 03/05/2012

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Robert H. Stagg

PrincipalGuardsmark, Inc.4901 Grinnell DriveRaleigh, NC 27612

SE 1/1/1991LPP-AAA

Craig Steley

PrincipalHonda of Canada Manufacturing4700 Tottenham RoadAlliston, ON L9R 1A2 CanadaNFPA Industrial Fire Protection SectionLight Manufacturing & ElectronicsAlternate: Ray A. Webber

U 7/1/1996

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Dariusz Szwarc

PrincipalUS Nuclear Regulatory CommissionRegion III2443 Warrenville Road, Suite 210Lisle, IL 60532-4352Alternate: Ronald A. Langstaff

E 08/09/2012LPP-AAA

R. Paul Valentine

PrincipalNexus EngineeringOne Trans Am Plaza Drive, Suite 200Oakbrook Terrace, IL 60181International Fire Service Training AssociationAlternate: Michael M. Dillon

M 8/9/2011

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Randal Wakeman

PrincipalNuclear Service Organization (NSO)1201 North Market Street, Suite 1100Wilmington, DE 19801Alternate: Michael John Stanley

I 3/15/2007LPP-AAA

Neil P. Wu

PrincipalExponent, Inc.17000 Science Drive, Suite 200Bowie, MD 20715

SE 03/05/2012

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Larry A. Zakem

PrincipalElectronic Eye Incorporated3160 East Kemper RoadCincinnati, OH 45241

M 1/1/1992LPP-AAA

William Bekanich

AlternateCocciardi and Associates1337 Senator Robert Mellow DriveJessup, PA 18434Commonwealth of PennsylvaniaPrincipal: Joseph A. Cocciardi

SE 03/07/2013

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Michael M. Dillon

AlternateNexus EngineeringPO Box 48Braidwood, IL 60408International Fire Service Training AssociationPrincipal: R. Paul Valentine

M 10/29/2012LPP-AAA

Ronald A. Langstaff

AlternateUS Nuclear Regulatory Commission2443 Warrenville Road, Suite 210Lisle, IL 60532-4352Principal: Dariusz Szwarc

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John Richard Lussi

AlternatePPL Susquehanna, LLC64 Tompkins StreetPittston, PA 18640Principal: Stanford E. Davis

U 07/29/2013LPP-AAA

Juan A. Olivari

AlternateTelgian Corporation2615 South Industrial Park AvenueTempe, AZ 85282Principal: Craig P. Remsburg

SE 10/23/2013

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Kevin Phelan

AlternateLiberty Mutual Insurance1378 Wellington RoadManchester, NH 03104Principal: Charles A. Badeau

I 10/23/2013LPP-AAA

Michael John Stanley

AlternateNuclear Service Organization (NSO)1201 North Market StreetWilmington, DE 19801Principal: Randal Wakeman

I 07/29/2013

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Ray A. Webber

AlternateThe Procter & Gamble Company2 P&G Plaza, TN6Cincinnati, OH 45202NFPA Industrial Fire Protection SectionLight Manufacturing & ElectronicsPrincipal: Craig Steley

U 10/28/2008LPP-AAA

John A. Welling, III

AlternateBristol-Myers Squibb CompanyPO Box 4000, Mail Code B095Princeton, NJ 08543-4000NFPA Industrial Fire Protection SectionHeavy ManufacturingPrincipal: Aaron D. Duff

U 07/29/2013

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William R. Hamilton

Nonvoting MemberUS Department of LaborOccupational Safety & Health Administration200 Constitution Ave. NW, Room N3609Washington, DC 20210Alternate: Matthew I. Chibbaro

E 3/4/2009LPP-AAA

Matthew I. Chibbaro

Alt. to Nonvoting MemberUS Department of LaborOccupational Safety & Health Administration200 Constitution Ave. NW, Room N3609Washington, DC 20210Principal: William R. Hamilton

E 4/15/2004

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Nancy Pearce

Staff LiaisonNational Fire Protection Association1 Batterymarch ParkQuincy, MA 02169-7471

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2014 FALL REVISION CYCLE *Public Input Dates may vary according to standards and schedules for Revision Cycles may change. Please check the NFPA Website for the most up‐to‐date information on Public Input Closing Dates and schedules at

www.nfpa.org/document# (i.e. www.nfpa.org/101) and click on the Next Edition tab.

Process Stage

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Dates for TC

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CC Public Input Closing Date* 1/4/2013 1/4/2013

Final Date for TC First Draft Meeting 6/14/2013 3/15/2013

Public Input Posting of First Draft and TC Ballot 8/2/2013 4/26/2013

Stage Final date for Receipt of TC First Draft ballot 8/23/2013 5/17/2013

(First Draft) Final date for Receipt of TC First Draft ballot ‐ recirc 8/30/2013 5/24/2013

Posting of First Draft for CC Meeting 5/31/2013

Final date for CC First Draft Meeting 7/21/2013

Posting of First Draft and CC Ballot 8/2/2013

Final date for Receipt of CC First Draft ballot 8/23/2013

Final date for Receipt of CC First Draft ballot ‐ recirc 8/30/2013

Post First Draft Report for Public Comment 9/6/2013 9/6/2013

Public Comment Closing Date for Paper Submittal* 10/11/2013 10/11/2013

Public Comment Closing Date for Online Submittal (e‐PC)* 11/15/2013 11/15/2013

Final Date to Publish Notice of Consent Standards (Standards that received no Comments)

11/29/2013 11/29/2013

Appeal Closing Date for Consent Standards (Standards that received no Comments)

12/13/2013 12/13/2013

Final date for TC Second Draft Meeting 5/2/2014 1/24/2014

Comment Posting of Second Draft and TC Ballot 6/13/2014 3/7/2014

Stage Final date for Receipt of TC Second Draft ballot 7/7/2014 3/28/2014

(Second Final date for receipt of TC Second Draft ballot ‐ recirc 7/14/2014 4/4/2014

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Posting of Second Draft for CC Ballot 6/13/2014

Final date for Receipt of CC Second Draft ballot 7/3/2014

Final date for Receipt of CC Second Draft ballot ‐ recirc 7/11/2014

Post Second Draft Report for NITMAM Review 7/18/2014 7/18/2014

Tech Session Notice of Intent to Make a Motion (NITMAM) Closing Date 8/22/2014 8/22/2014

Preparation Posting of Certified Amending Motions (CAMs) and Consent Standards

10/17/2014 10/17/2014

(& Issuance) Appeal Closing Date for Consent Standards 11/1/2014 11/1/2014

SC Issuance Date for Consent Standards 11/11/2014 11/11/2014

Tech Session Association Meeting for Standards with CAMs 6/22‐25/2015 6/22‐25/2015

Appeals and Appeal Closing Date for Standards with CAMs 7/15/2015 7/15/2015

Issuance SC Issuance Date for Standards with CAMs 8/20/2015 8/20/2015

Approved___ October 18, 2011 _ Revised____March 7, 2013____________

Public Comment No. 6-NFPA 600-2013 [ Section No. 1.1.1 ]

1.1.1

This standard contains minimum requirements for organizing, operating, training, and equipping facility firebrigades when / fire departments when responding to fires in industrial, commercial, institutional, andsimilar properties.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

Many industrial, busines, and government complexes have thier own fire departments. They do not call them brigades and they are organized, staffed and managed as any State, County or local government department may be. By adding the words fire department we are making it clear that you can and should use this standard when looking at these type of operations and not NFPA 1710 or 1720.

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Donald Turno

Organization: Savannah River Nuclear Solutions

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Submittal Date: Thu Oct 10 09:55:02 EDT 2013

Copyright Assignment

I, Donald Turno, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and full rights in copyright in thisPublic Comment (including both the Proposed Change and the Statement of Problem and Substantiation). I understand and intend that Iacquire no rights, including rights as a joint author, in any publication of the NFPA in which this Public Comment in this or another similar orderivative form is used. I hereby warrant that I am the author of this Public Comment and that I have full power and authority to enter intothis copyright assignment.

By checking this box I affirm that I am Donald Turno, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright Assignment and the termsand conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by checking this box, I am creating an electronic signature that will, upon mysubmission of this form, have the same legal force and effect as a handwritten signature

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1.1.1

This standard contains minimum requirements for organizing, operating, training staffing , training, andequipping facility fire brigades when / fire departments when responding to fires in industrial, commercial,institutional, and similar properties.


This would add to the standard a way to determine peoper staffing levels for an industrial fire department or brigade.




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1.1.1

This standard contains minimum requirements for organizing, operating, training staffing , training, andequipping facility fire brigades when / fire departments when responding to fires in industrial, commercial,institutional, and mutual aid and similar properties.


Covers addiditions as need to meet above changes and also adds responces to other industries and incidents cvered by MOUs or other aggreements.




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Public Comment No. 9-NFPA 600-2013 [ Section No. 1.2 ]

1.2 * Purpose.

The purpose of this standard is to provide minimum requirements for organization, operation, staffing,training, and occupational safety and health for facility fire brigades / fire departments .


Make changes throughout the document if Committee agrees to change / addition.




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1.3.1 *

This standard shall apply to any organized, group of employees having the primiary fire-fighting responseduties, such as emergency brigades, emergency response teams, fire teams, department or and plantemergency organizations. These 'groups' may also preform rescue, haz-mat and medical responses.


These changes will assist to better define more of the type of industial departments that are in the industry. I believe this standard needs to cover not only the groups who may do other duties until an alarm goes off but also the full time emergency response personnal that cover large office, business and industrial complexes that we have and do not fall under NFPA 1710.




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1.3.2 *

This standard shall not apply to facility fire brigades that respond to fire emergencies outside theboundaries of the site where the off-site fire involves unfamiliar hazards or enclosed structures with layoutand contents that are unknown to the facility fire brigade.


If the Committee agrees to some of my above changes then the Brigade / fire department may be allowed to provide mutual ade where MOU are in force. Again this will cover more the the type of departments that are out there and function more like a County or City fire department.




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1.3.3

This standard shall not apply to medical response, confined space rescue response, and hazardousmaterial response activities.


If Committee agress to above changes this would need to be removed or reworded.

I think that there is a gap between the type of brigade that NFPA 600 talks to and what is out in the world. There are many "fire department" type organizations that fall between NFPA 600 and NFPA 1710 that should be covered. They do more than just fire response. (A new proposal to the Standards Council was reject as they felt NFPA 600 covered these type of organizations.)




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3.3.10 Facility Fire Brigade / Department .

An organized group of employees at a facility who are knowledgeable, trained, and skilled in at least basicin fire-fighting operations, and whose full-time occupation might or might not be the provision of firesuppression and related activities for their employer.

3.3.10.1 Facility Fire Brigade Leader.

An individual responsible for overseeing the performance or activity of other members.


Let the AHJ decide how high the level of training should be. or reference NFPA 1001




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3.3.11 Facility Fire Brigade Apparatus.

A facility fire brigade emergency response vehicle designed and intended primarily for fire suppression,rescue, or other specialized function that includes pumpers, foam apparatus, aerial ladders, rescuevehicles , and other such apparatus .


You say in Chap 2 that the brigade cannot do rescue or hazmat then why do you have the vehicles be anything other than a pumper or ladder?




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Public Comment No. 15-NFPA 600-2013 [ New Section after 4.12.6 ]

Fire Brigade / Department Suppression Capability

5.1.1 Fire Suppression Capability.

5.1.1.1 Fire suppression operations shall be organized to ensure

that the fire brigade’s fire suppression capability encompasses

deployment of personnel, equipment, and resources

for an initial arriving resonse, the initial full alarm

assignment, and additional resonse assignments.

5.1.1.2 The fire brigade shall be permitted to use established

automatic aid and mutual aid agreements to comply

with the requirements of Section 5.2.

5.1.2* Staffing. The number of on-duty fire suppression personnel

shall be sufficient to perform the necessary fire-fighting operations

given the expected fire-fighting conditions.

5.1.2.1 These numbers shall be determined through task analyses

that take the following factors into consideration:

(1) Life hazard to the populace protected

(2) Provisions of safe and effective fire-fighting performance

conditions for the fire fighters

(3) Potential property loss

(4) Nature, configuration, hazards, and internal protection

of the properties involved

(5) Types of fireground tactics and evolutions employed as

standard procedure, type of apparatus used, and results

expected to be obtained at the fire scene

5.1.3.1 On-duty personnel assigned to fire suppression shall

be organized into company units and shall have appropriate

apparatus and equipment assigned to such company

5.1.4.1 The fire brigade shall identify minimum company

staffing levels as necessary to meet the deployment criteria required

in (above section) to ensure that a sufficient number of members are

assigned, on duty, and available to safely and effectively respond

with each company.

5.2. Each company shall be led by an officer who shall be

considered a part of the company.

5.3 Supervisory leader shall be dispatched or notified

to respond to all full alarm assignments.

5.4 The supervisory leader shall ensure that the

incident management system is established as required in

Section XX

5.5* Supervisory leader shall have staff aides deployed

to them for purposes of incident management and accountability


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at emergency incidents.

5.6 Operating Units. Fire company staffing requirements

shall be based on minimum levels necessary for safe, effective,

and efficient emergency operations.

5.6.1 Fire companies whose primary functions are to pump

and deliver water and perform basic fire fighting at fires, including

search and rescue, shall be known as engine companies.

5.6.2 These companies shall be staffed or assigned with a minimum

of four on-duty personnel.

5.6.3 In jurisdictions with tactical hazards, high-hazard

occupancies, high incident frequencies, geographical restrictions,

or other pertinent factors as identified by the AHJ, these

companies shall be staffed with a minimum of five or six onduty or assigned

members.

5.7 Deployment

5.7.1 The fire brigade resources shall be deployed to provide the arrival of the team/department within300-seconds to 90 percent of the incidents.

5.8 Personnel assigned to the initial arriving responders shall have the capability to implement an initialrapid intervention crew (IRIC)


This standard should also strive to set a min standard for staffing and response time for the brigade. This new section should address this.




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6.1 General.

Facility fire brigades organized to perform advanced exterior or interior structural fire fighting only shallmeet the requirements of Sections 6.2 through 6.6 in addition to all applicable requirements of Chapters 1and 4 of this standard.


This chapter now applys to facility fire brigades that perform advanced exterior or interior structure fire fighting as well as those that perform both advanced exterior and interior structure fire fighting. So "only" needs to be deleted for proper meaning of the applicability.


Submitter Full Name: Michael DeVore

Organization: State Farm Insurance Company

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I, Michael DeVore, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and full rights in copyright inthis Public Comment (including both the Proposed Change and the Statement of Problem and Substantiation). I understand and intend thatI acquire no rights, including rights as a joint author, in any publication of the NFPA in which this Public Comment in this or another similaror derivative form is used. I hereby warrant that I am the author of this Public Comment and that I have full power and authority to enter intothis copyright assignment.

By checking this box I affirm that I am Michael DeVore, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright Assignment and theterms and conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by checking this box, I am creating an electronic signature that will,upon my submission of this form, have the same legal force and effect as a handwritten signature


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6.3 Operational Requirements.

Operational safety requirements shall be established for facility fire brigade members responding to a fireemergency shall be established and shall at a minimum include the emergency including, but not limitedto, the following:

(1) Personnel who are not trained in accordance with this standard are not permitted to enter the warm orhot zones established for a fire emergency.

(2)

(3) Thermal protective clothing is worn by facility fire brigade members entering the warm zone.

(4) Facility fire brigade members operate in teams of two or more in response to fires that have advancedbeyond the incipient stage.

(5) Facility fire brigade members operating in the hot and warm zones have an establishedcommunications system.

(6) When facility fire brigade members are operating in the hot zone, at least one facility fire brigademember with the capability to call for assistance remains outside the hot zone and maintains anawareness of the safety of facility fire brigade members located inside the hot zone.

(7) When facility fire brigade members are operating in the hot zone, additional brigade members arestanding by in the warm zone with approved equipment to provide assistance or rescue.

(8) Facility fire brigade members positioned in the warm zone are visible to command positions at alltimes.

(9) Personnel and facility fire brigade members positioned in any fire zone have opportunity to relocate toan alternate position should fire conditions change.

(10) Experienced facility fire brigade members oversee activities of less experienced brigade membersduring fire-fighting operations.


Edited for compliance with Manual of Style, section 1.8. Only 1 requirement permitted per sentence.




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Public Comment No. 4-NFPA 600-2013 [ Section No. 6.5.2.4 ]

6.5.2.4

Closed-circuit-type self-contained breathing devices shall be approved by NIOSH and MSHA with aminimum service duration of 30 minutes and shall .

6.5.2.5

Closed-circuit-type self-contained breathing devices shall operate in the positive pressure mode only.


Edited to comply with Manual of Style, section 1.8. Only 1 requirement permitted per sentence.




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6.5.5 *

Facility fire brigade members using SCBA shall operate in teams of two or more members who are incommunication with each other through visual or voice contact to coordinate their activities and are inclose proximity to each other to and to provide assistance in case of an emergency.

6.5.5.1

Where facility fire brigade members are involved in operations that require the use of SCBA, at least twomembers shall be assigned to remain outside the area where respiratory protection is required.

6.5.5.2

One member shall be responsible for maintaining a constant awareness of the number and identity ofpersonnel using SCBA, their location, function, and time of entry.

6.5.5.3

These members with SCBA shall The members assigned in 6.5.5.1 shall be trained, equipped with SCBA ,and available for rescue.


6.5.5 edited to comply with Manual of Style, section 1.8, for only 1 requirement. Sentence 6.5.5.3 edited for clarity as to who "these members" are.




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Public Comment No. 1-NFPA 600-2013 [ Section No. A.3.3.9 ]

A.3.3.9 Facility.

The extent or limits for the location or facility at which a fire brigade operates might not coincide withproperty boundaries. The boundaries could be set by the authority having jurisdiction or in theorganizational statement. The fire brigade can respond to fire incidents at locations that are familiar workplaces or have been pre-fire planned. At a facility or complex, there might be many different hazards oroccupancy uses of structures. A fire brigade can respond at part of a site or at multiple structures at onelocation. Here are some examples:

(1) Nuclear Power Plant: The fire brigade at a nuclear power plant responds inside the protected area.Beyond these limits, to the site property lines, is a security area that might contain structures.Typically these structures in the security area would be protected by a fire department complying withNFPA 1500, Standard on Fire Department Occupational Safety and Health Program .

(2) College or University Campus: A science laboratory might need a fire brigade dedicated to the specialhazards of the laboratory. Other occupancy uses on campus including large assembly spaces anddormitories might have fire brigades separate from the one at the science laboratory.

(3) National Park Recreational Areas : A national park recreation area such as Yellowstone National Parkmight have several lodge areas within the limits of the park. Due to distance, each lodging facilitycould have its own fire brigade.

(4) Industrial Park: There might be several structures at an industrial park that could be protected by a firebrigade.


The technical committee discussed these changes in the First Draft meeting, but the revisions got lost in the larger reorganization of the document. The first paren about the nuclear facilities could be true or not and is too much information in either case. Recreation areas can be public or private and broadens the scope of the sentence as intended by the committee.




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New Project Initiation Form (To be completed by proponent of new project/document)

Additional pages may be attached if necessary.

a. Explain the Scope of the new project/document:

This new document would act as the consensus national standards for the development of facility Emergency Action Plans, and the duties, requirements for, and training/education required of building fire safety directors. These actions are effected and individuals provide life safety and property conservation action prior to and in conjunction with facility fire brigades and municipal fire departments, at specific types of occupancies.

b. Provide an explanation and any evidence of the need for the new project/document:

Requirements for Emergency Action Plans and Fire Safety Directors have been in place for an extended timeframe. The federal government has had regulatory requirements in place for the development of Emergency Action Plans at specific occupancies, and many municipalities (e.g. the cities of New York, Chicago, and Los Angeles) have similar requirements. These municipalities also proffer fitness for duty requirements for such individuals, however, a consensus national standard or best practice in this field does not exist.

These plans and individuals operate at various occupancies, including high rise structures, hotels, motels, and public occupancies, as well as other locations.

c. Identify intended users of the new project/document:

Users for this new document would be varied and extensive:

Facilities, required by the various codes and rules to provide emergency action plans and personnel to implement them [USERS].

Enforcers (e.g. Municipalities, states, federal government) who have these basic requirements in place, and qualify, license or certify the competency of the plans and fitness of personnel [ENFORCERS].

Individuals providing these planning functions from various facility fire prevention and safety offices and individuals self-evaluating these services and plans [CONSULTANTS/SME].

d. Identify individuals, groups and organizations that should review and provide input on the need for the proposed new project/document; and provide contact information for these groups: The Loss Prevention Procedures and Practices Committee has identified the need for this document, and believes they have the expertise to formulate (with others) the standard. The Chair/Staff Liaison can be contacted for additional information.

e. Identify individuals, groups and organizations that will be or could be affected, either directly or indirectly, by the proposed new project/document, and what benefit they will receive by having this new document available:

GROUP EFFECT BENEFIT

1. Enforcers Provision of a National Consensus Standard/Best Practice on the development of Emergency Action Plans/Establishment of Fire Control Centers and the duties, requirements for certification, and training/education of Fire Safety Directors who enforce these Emergency Action Plans.

Provides a benchmark for these services/individuals in the fire safety field.

Allows for adoption (by reference or referendum) of the standard into municipal or other standards and enforcement processes.

Provides defendability for plans and personnel who comply with and conform to this standard on a national level due to the consensus standards making process and the inclusion of present practices in these areas.

2. Users Provision of a National Consensus Standard/Best Practice on the development of Emergency Action Plans/Establishment of Fire Control Centers and the duties, requirements for certification, and training/education of Fire Safety Directors who enforce these Emergency Action Plans.

Identifies currently acceptable best practices for the development of EAP and the duties, requirements, and training/education of Fire Safety Directors who enforce and implement plans as specified as specified facilities.

Eliminates excessive or inconsistent practices for these sites.

3. Consultants/Experts Provision of a National Consensus Standard/Best Practice on the development of Emergency Action Plans/Establishment of Fire Control Centers and the duties, requirements for certification, and training/education of Fire Safety Directors who enforce these Emergency Action Plans.

Identifies best practices for clientele on a national basis.

4. Safety Training Sites

(Note: There are hundreds of thousands of users of this service, as they are currently located in the various jurisdictions with licensure required (e.g. New York City). Hotel/Motel; high risk; public assembly; institutional and educational occupancies are all users of this service.

f. Identify other related documents and projects on the subject both within NFPA and external to NFPA: The Loss Prevention Procedures and Practices committee presently authors standards on facility fire brigades and security services in fire loss prevention. Fire Brigades and security services are peripheral, however, to facility fire safety planning/emergency action planning. Facility Fire Brigades operate at fire events to control fires; while security services restrict access and/or allow access by emergency services, to facilitate the fire response process. Emergency Action Plans the Fire Safety Directors who implement them, complete property conservation and life safety planning, then implement these processes during fire events for these private locations. Various examples of users exist, including: The U.S. Department of Labor: Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) Standard on

Emergency Action Planning and Fire Prevention Plans (29CFR1910.38), in particular at high risk facilities (e.g. those covered by the OSHA Process Safety Management Standard).

The New York City requirements for plans and certified fire safety directors (NYC Local Law 6) in hotel, motel, high rise and public occupancies.

Various locations within the State of California (e.g. County of Los Angeles; City of Los Angeles), who requires common business emergency planning, identification of an on-site person to implement the plans, and evaluations of plans and persons by municipal fire departments.

The City of Chicago: High Rise Fire Safety Director and Fire Warden Requirements for Buildings: City of Chicago Code: Chapter 13-78.

Multiple Locations, such as the City of Seattle, WA and the City of Columbus, OH; have similar rules and regulations.

g. Identify the technical expertise and interest necessary to develop the project/document, and if the committee membership currently contains this expertise and interest: The Loss Prevention Procedures and Practices committee currently contains expertise in this area, and has concurred with this project. If approved as a project, users and enforcers, as well as subject matter experts in this area, may be added to round out the committee. Individuals from locations such as the above cities, counties or federal agencies referenced may be ideal for this purpose.

h. Provide an estimate on the amount of time needed to develop the new project/document: Timeframes typical to the standards development process would be necessary for this project. It is estimated that a timeframe of approximately one (1) year would be required, which would include an initial meeting for standard development as well as follow-up timeframes for comment/adoption by the Committee and a recommendation for adoption by the Standards Council.

i. Comment on the availability of data and other information that exists or would be needed to substantiate the technical requirements and other provisions of the proposed new project/ document: Substantive documents and materials exist for this project, however, materials are local. The U.S. Department of Labor: Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) has been enforcing the EAP standard for approximately 30 years, and has experience in this area (although the OSHA standard is considered outdated at this time). Documents from the municipalities noted above are plentiful, although a commonality does not exist. Testing services for fire safety directors is provided by various organizations, in particular in the New York City area (e.g. a search of the certified fire safety director training site for New York City identifies (ww.nyc.gov/html/fdny) 15 such training and certification entities recognized by FDNY, and they range from Local 94 of the International Union of Operating Engineers (www.local94.com), through the John Jay College for Criminal Justice Studies, Fire Science Institute (www.jjay.cuny.edu/fsi).

Please send your request to: Signature: NFPA Codes and Standards Administration Name: Joseph A. Cocciardi, PhD, MS, CSP, CIH, REHS, RS 1 Batterymarch Park (please print) Quincy, MA 02169 [email protected] Affiliation:Chair; NFPA Committee on Loss Prevention Procedures Rev. 10/09 and Practices

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