TechnoTN Forum 2005TechnoTN Forum 2005

Roundtable – Theme 1: Roundtable – Theme 1: ““Employability of GraduatesEmployability of Graduates””

2020thth May 2005 May 2005

Working Group nr. 2Working Group nr. 2

Discussion / strategy for Discussion / strategy for the groupthe group

First hour devoted to a free First hour devoted to a free discussion inspired from the discussion inspired from the presentationspresentations

Various options have been Various options have been presented on aspects of the subject presented on aspects of the subject lineline

Recommendations have been Recommendations have been elaborated and agreed upon the elaborated and agreed upon the groupgroup

Topics discussedTopics discussed

Difference in salaries between 1st Difference in salaries between 1st and 2nd cycle graduatesand 2nd cycle graduates

First cycle graduates not First cycle graduates not accepted by the public sector accepted by the public sector (authorities)(authorities)

The image of the institution is The image of the institution is often more important than the leveloften more important than the level

Different approach to the two Different approach to the two levels from the companieslevels from the companies

RecommendationsRecommendations

Recommendations have been subdivided Recommendations have been subdivided according to the following addressees: according to the following addressees:

Universities/Higher Education InstitutionsUniversities/Higher Education Institutions StudentsStudents Regional AuthoritiesRegional Authorities National AuthoritiesNational Authorities European CommissionEuropean Commission Economic PartnersEconomic Partners Thematic NetworksThematic Networks

Recommendations to Recommendations to Universities(1/4):Universities(1/4):

Connections between future graduates Connections between future graduates and employersand employers

Connections with employers in order to Connections with employers in order to make them understand the first/second make them understand the first/second cycle level cycle level

Awareness of how the EU is movingAwareness of how the EU is moving Create a clear image of educational Create a clear image of educational

profiles and specialisations (in terms of profiles and specialisations (in terms of provided skills and professional abilities)provided skills and professional abilities)

Recommendations to Recommendations to Universities (2/4):Universities (2/4):

Organise information campaigns for Organise information campaigns for parents and companies in order to parents and companies in order to explain the differences between first and explain the differences between first and second cyclesecond cycle

Accept and develop procedures for Accept and develop procedures for assessing « real competences »assessing « real competences »

Closer interaction and co-operation Closer interaction and co-operation between universities and industriesbetween universities and industries

Recommendations to Recommendations to Universities (3/4):Universities (3/4):

Enhance flexibility within first and second Enhance flexibility within first and second cycle degrees curricula (structure, cycle degrees curricula (structure, content, profile, specialisation, etc)content, profile, specialisation, etc)

Facilitate the access from the first to the Facilitate the access from the first to the second cycle especially to students who second cycle especially to students who spent a period in industry in between spent a period in industry in between (e.g. by counselling, special courses etc)(e.g. by counselling, special courses etc)

Develop life long learning possibilities Develop life long learning possibilities and accreditationand accreditation

Recommendations to Recommendations to Universities (4/4):Universities (4/4):

Educate the students to become good Educate the students to become good learnerslearners

Implement the Diploma SupplementImplement the Diploma Supplement Devise competence - oriented curriculaDevise competence - oriented curricula Refuse leveling of salaries between first Refuse leveling of salaries between first

and second cycle graduatesand second cycle graduates Inform about the knowledge differences Inform about the knowledge differences

of the first and second cycle graduatesof the first and second cycle graduates

Recommendations to Recommendations to Students:Students:

Request transparency from their Request transparency from their institutions as far as first and institutions as far as first and second cycle curricula and second cycle curricula and procedures are concernedprocedures are concerned

Keep in contact with the industry Keep in contact with the industry worldworld

Recommendations to Recommendations to Regional Authorities:Regional Authorities:

Help small and medium size Help small and medium size enterprises to know graduatesenterprises to know graduates

Recommendations to Recommendations to National AuthoritiesNational Authorities

Make order into salariesMake order into salaries Further application of recognition, Further application of recognition,

equivalence and transparence tools like equivalence and transparence tools like NARIC, ECTS, DS etcNARIC, ECTS, DS etc

Allow universities to have more flexible Allow universities to have more flexible structuresstructures

Accept diversity and guarantee flexibilityAccept diversity and guarantee flexibility Follow-up with “rewards” and Follow-up with “rewards” and

“punishments”“punishments”

Recommendations to the Recommendations to the European CommissionEuropean Commission

Help mobility of graduatesHelp mobility of graduates

Recommendations to Recommendations to Economic PartnersEconomic Partners

Open contacts with the UniversitiesOpen contacts with the Universities

Recommendations to Recommendations to Thematic NetworksThematic Networks

Organise surveys on employability Organise surveys on employability Disseminate of information through out Disseminate of information through out

Europe on possible jobs in European Europe on possible jobs in European countriescountries

Organise information campaigns, e.g. big Organise information campaigns, e.g. big events/fairs in which the companies will events/fairs in which the companies will interview students (possibly with the EC interview students (possibly with the EC financial contribution)financial contribution)

TechnoTN Forum 2005

Roundtable – Theme 2: “Human Resources for Science

and Technology in Europe”

20th May 2005

Working Group nr. 2Working Group nr. 2

AccreditationAccreditation

ICTICT

PhD – 3PhD – 3rdrd level level

Topics discussed

DiscussionDiscussion

Some information on the creation of Some information on the creation of EUR-ACE has been givenEUR-ACE has been given

The Chemist Label Accreditation has The Chemist Label Accreditation has been presented in shortbeen presented in short

The problems of the possible conflict The problems of the possible conflict between national and EU systems of between national and EU systems of accreditation have been discussedaccreditation have been discussed

DiscussionDiscussion

The advantages of ICT for students but The advantages of ICT for students but the fact that it is time consuming for the fact that it is time consuming for teachers have been pointed outteachers have been pointed out

The fact that not all doctoral graduates The fact that not all doctoral graduates become researchers has been become researchers has been emphasisedemphasised

It has been stressed that Europe is It has been stressed that Europe is investing in training researchers but then investing in training researchers but then does not pay themdoes not pay them

Accreditation:Accreditation: Recommendations (1/2)Recommendations (1/2)

Develop Develop Recommended Recommended Reference Curricula (based Reference Curricula (based on competences)on competences) in given in given fields and have them fields and have them accepted by professional accepted by professional associations, etcassociations, etc

Award a "Label" to the Award a "Label" to the Higher Education Higher Education Institutions applying the Institutions applying the RRCRRC

to TNsto TNs

Accreditation:Accreditation: Recommendations (2/2)Recommendations (2/2)

Coordinate initiativesCoordinate initiatives at EU at EU and National leveland National level

to EU and to EU and National National authoritiesauthorities

supplied supplied by TNsby TNs

Use specialists/experts Use specialists/experts of of the fieldthe field

Award a "Label" for Award a "Label" for teaching materialsteaching materials

to TNsto TNs

ICT:ICT:Recommendations (1/2)Recommendations (1/2)

Develop Develop education degreeeducation degree for members for members of academic of academic staffstaff, including e-learning, including e-learning

to Universitiesto Universities

Create Create trans-national trans-national coursescourses implemented in implemented in curriculacurricula

to Universities to Universities and TNsand TNs

More support and More support and recognitionrecognition to develop e- to develop e-learninglearning

to Universitiesto Universities

ICT:ICT:Recommendations (2/2)Recommendations (2/2)

Make Make available on-lineavailable on-line "Labeled" teaching "Labeled" teaching materialsmaterials

to Universitiesto Universities

PhD – 3PhD – 3rdrd level: level:Recommendations (1/2)Recommendations (1/2)

Try to convince Try to convince universities' authorities to universities' authorities to favour the creation of spin-favour the creation of spin-offsoffs ( ( highly specialized highly specialized jobs for PhD’s)jobs for PhD’s)

to Univ., EU, to Univ., EU, Nat. Gov.Nat. Gov.

Avoid losing talentsAvoid losing talents, by , by giving giving more financingmore financing for for researchresearch

to Univ., to Univ., IndustryIndustry

PhD – 3PhD – 3rdrd level: level: Recommendations (2/2)Recommendations (2/2)

Attract the best mindsAttract the best minds (for (for science) to stay and do a science) to stay and do a PhDPhD

to Universitiesto Universities

TechnoTN Forum 2005TechnoTN Forum 2005

Roundtable – Theme 3: Roundtable – Theme 3: ““Learning for innovatingLearning for innovating””

2121stst May 2005 May 2005

Working Group nr. 2Working Group nr. 2

Discussion / strategy for Discussion / strategy for the groupthe group

First hour devoted to a free First hour devoted to a free discussion inspired from the discussion inspired from the presentationspresentations

Various options have been Various options have been presented on aspects of the subject presented on aspects of the subject lineline

Recommendations have been Recommendations have been elaborated and agreed upon the elaborated and agreed upon the groupgroup

Topics discussedTopics discussed

PBL courses in groups-"Villages" of PBL courses in groups-"Villages" of students from different facultiesstudents from different faculties

Learning to respect the interdisciplinary Learning to respect the interdisciplinary approach approach

Ways of educating or InnovationWays of educating or Innovation Social aspects of InnovationSocial aspects of Innovation Creation of events/competitions to Creation of events/competitions to

encourage innovationencourage innovation Innovation in fundamental research is Innovation in fundamental research is

not supported enoughnot supported enough

RecommendationsRecommendations

Recommendations have been Recommendations have been subdivided according to the following subdivided according to the following topics: topics:

Team work - project orientedTeam work - project oriented Educating for innovationEducating for innovation Interpersonal abilities or skillsInterpersonal abilities or skills Involvement of industryInvolvement of industry EventsEvents Role of ICTRole of ICT

Team work - project Team work - project orientedoriented

"Villages" of students from different "Villages" of students from different facultiesfaculties

Case studiesCase studies Importance of tutoringImportance of tutoring InterdisciplinarityInterdisciplinarity Team thinking Team thinking Use special evaluation criteria for Use special evaluation criteria for

Team workTeam work

Educating for InnovationEducating for Innovation

Educating in interdisciplinary subjectsEducating in interdisciplinary subjects Seminars on skills (with credits etc)Seminars on skills (with credits etc) Formation of good adult learners by Formation of good adult learners by

educating them to retrieve educating them to retrieve informationinformation

Formation of good adult learners by Formation of good adult learners by educating them to learn how to learneducating them to learn how to learn

Give students responsibility for Give students responsibility for learninglearning

Interpersonal abilities Interpersonal abilities or skillsor skills

Communication abilitiesCommunication abilities NetworkingNetworking

Involvement of industryInvolvement of industry

Presentation of industry within Presentation of industry within universitiesuniversities

StagesStages

Events Events (involving (involving professional associations)professional associations)

Presentations of work Presentations of work DebatesDebates Games (National/European level)Games (National/European level) Forums for presentation of team Forums for presentation of team

workwork

Role of ICTRole of ICT

Educating to the correct use of ICTEducating to the correct use of ICT Combine e-learning with face to Combine e-learning with face to

face teachingface teaching Use of e-learning to enhance and Use of e-learning to enhance and

not to reduce the fundamental not to reduce the fundamental knowledge of each scienceknowledge of each science

Closing commentsClosing comments

Training in Innovation may help Training in Innovation may help

screen potential innovatorsscreen potential innovators

If major changes have to be If major changes have to be

introduced (e.g. villages) all introduced (e.g. villages) all

stakeholders must be committedstakeholders must be committed

TechnoTN Forum 2005TechnoTN Forum 2005

Luigi Magni - Luigi Magni - BIOTECHUNTEBIOTECHUNTE

Bernard Leyh - ECTNBernard Leyh - ECTN

Evangelia Varella - ECTNEvangelia Varella - ECTN

Erwin Heine - EEGECSErwin Heine - EEGECS

Robin de Keiser - ESTIA-NetRobin de Keiser - ESTIA-Net

Malgorzata Radkiewicz - ESTIA-NetMalgorzata Radkiewicz - ESTIA-Net

Eivind Bratteland - EUCEETEivind Bratteland - EUCEET

Victor de Kosinski - EULLearNVictor de Kosinski - EULLearN

Petar Kenderov - ETN DECPetar Kenderov - ETN DEC

Members of Working Group nr 2Members of Working Group nr 2

Manuel Molla - HERODOT Manuel Molla - HERODOT

Cristina Silva - ISEKI Food (Rapporteur)Cristina Silva - ISEKI Food (Rapporteur)

Margarita Maria Vieira - ISEKI Food Margarita Maria Vieira - ISEKI Food

Karine Dorcéan - SEFIKarine Dorcéan - SEFI

Francesco Maffioli - TREE / Techno TN Francesco Maffioli - TREE / Techno TN coordinator (President)coordinator (President)

Aris Avdelas - TREEAris Avdelas - TREE (Rapporteur)(Rapporteur)

Elisa Guberti - TREEElisa Guberti - TREE

Marco Taisch - Politecnico di MilanoMarco Taisch - Politecnico di Milano