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Produced by the Talbot Owners’ Club 1 8 Talbot Gearbox The Talbot Manual Technical Resource Gearbox Bill Barrott & Martin Bryant This publication has been produced by the Talbot Owners’ Club Ltd. in good faith, and the information contained therein does not necessarily reflect the views of the Club or Officers, who cannot be responsible for loss or damage for work carried out or actions taken by members, based on these contents.
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The Talbot Manual Technical Resource

Gearbox

Bill Barrott & Martin Bryant

This publication has been produced by the Talbot Owners’ Club Ltd. in good faith, and the information contained therein does not

necessarily reflect the views of the Club or Officers, who cannot be responsible for loss or damage for work carried out or actions

taken by members, based on these contents.

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The Talbot Pre selector Gearbox

Introduction The pre selector gearbox was one of the great innovations in 1930s car design, aimed at

making gear changing faster and foolproof. There were a number of different manufacturers,

but all used the “Wilson Patents” as the basis of their design. Georges Roesch’s variant was

called the Talbot Self Accelerating Gearbox.

The repair of these complex pieces of machinery is well beyond the scope of this manual and

best left to the experts. However this section does cover a general description of their working

and helpful information on diagnosis and adjustment.

Diagnosis The gearbox is accessed after removal of the front seats and floor boards. The lid is held on by

many 6mm nuts. Take particular care to lift all washers before removing the lid. Prise the lid

off using the screwdriver slot provided for the purpose.

The gearbox is located beneath the

front floor boards

A view inside the gearbox showing

gear bands and the automatic

adjustment mechanisms for all gears

Carefully prise off the gearbox lid

using the screwdriver slot

Carefully remove all washers using

a magnetic pickup

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Using a digital caliper and tape carefully measure the critical operating tolerances and record

them on the gearbox setting record sheet. This contains useful datum measures that Cecil

Schumacher has recorded from working on a great number of these devices. This exercise

gives you a useful guide to the health of your gearbox.

Select each gear in turn and measure

the distance between the case and the

auto adjust nut

Measure the depth of the pull rod

inside the auto adjuster nuts

Measure the movement to the first

point of resistance. This should be

less than 1 inch

Measure the pedal position at rest

Measure the length of the thread

from the head of the stop pin to the

lock nut: see record sheet

Record this measurement for each

gear on the record sheet

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The gear engagement strut and

spring. The spring can be replaced in

situ. Carry a spare

The top gear clutch. Engage top gear

and measure the length of the

exposed cone

Measure the thread showing above

the tops of the main spring adjusting

nuts

The pedal adjusting screw. Measure the

distance between the flange and the top

of the thread. The nut is 8mm but with

a special fine thread

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