Transcript for O‐Week 2020 DPM Degree Program Meeting for Bachelor of Computing

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00:00:13.107 ‐‐> 00:00:16.127my name is Greg Klotz. I'm one of the batch of computing program.

00:00:16.127 ‐‐> 00:00:19.287counselors and we will start this.

00:00:19.287 ‐‐> 00:00:22.667alive but we will start the slideshow

00:00:22.667 ‐‐> 00:00:25.907show in about a minute. I still I see that there is still some students.

00:00:25.907 ‐‐> 00:00:29.407coming in now, so we'll just give them about a minute just.

00:00:29.407 ‐‐> 00:00:31.887to come in here. The plan is.

00:00:32.587 ‐‐> 00:00:36.127For me to present a rough overview of.

00:00:37.067 ‐‐> 00:00:40.177Academic things bachelor computing the students.

00:00:40.177 ‐‐> 00:00:43.257should all know that will take me about 5 minutes.

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00:00:43.887 ‐‐> 00:00:47.04710 April nightly and the other batcher computing program accounts.

00:00:47.047 ‐‐> 00:00:50.487overcome live show you how to find some resource is.

00:00:50.487 ‐‐> 00:00:53.607on our websites and how to get help and after.

00:00:53.607 ‐‐> 00:00:56.637that we will open up for questions so you'll be able to type.

00:00:56.637 ‐‐> 00:00:59.837questions into the text fields and then we will answer those.

00:00:59.837 ‐‐> 00:01:02.937questions live to you in the video.

00:01:04.607 ‐‐> 00:01:07.777so it is 1232 so we'll get started

00:01:07.777 ‐‐> 00:01:11.177d for the students who are here. For the students who are not here this event.

00:01:16.117 ‐‐> 00:01:19.147So we have two program counselors in the batch of.

00:01:19.147 ‐‐> 00:01:22.177computing. He apparently is one of.

00:01:22.177 ‐‐> 00:01:25.757them. She is a program counselor. She does academic advising.

00:01:25.757 ‐‐> 00:01:29.417for computing students. She can refer you to helpful resources.

00:01:29.417 ‐‐> 00:01:32.767and her educational background is obsidian a masters?

00:01:32.767 ‐‐> 00:01:36.447at science at Guelph? A batch of education at Western.

00:01:36.447 ‐‐> 00:01:39.677and learning strategies and learning disabilities at.

00:01:39.677 ‐‐> 00:01:40.737Cambrian College.

00:01:42.677 ‐‐> 00:01:43.957And this is me.

00:01:44.557 ‐‐> 00:01:47.847My name is Greg Klotz. I'm the other bachelor computing program.

00:01:47.847 ‐‐> 00:01:51.127counselor. I also do academic advising for computing students.

00:01:51.127 ‐‐> 00:01:54.507re basically here to help you understand your academic

00:01:54.507 ‐‐> 00:01:58.047mic options, so if you're not sure about something academically.

00:01:58.047 ‐‐> 00:02:01.087do I drop this course? Do I not drop this course? What happens?

00:02:01.087 ‐‐> 00:02:04.517if I take a semester off? What happens if I fail this course?

00:02:05.707 ‐‐> 00:02:08.827Any kind of sort of academic questions you have along the way.

00:02:08.827 ‐‐> 00:02:12.127Ask us, we're happy to help and my background.

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is I had a Bachelor Science in applied computer science from Ryerson.

00:02:15.507 ‐‐> 00:02:18.967Anna Masters and doctorate in computer science.

00:02:18.967 ‐‐> 00:02:19.737from Guelph.

00:02:21.657 ‐‐> 00:02:25.007So University is not like high school.

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00:02:25.647 ‐‐> 00:02:26.267So.

00:02:27.027 ‐‐> 00:02:30.777Significant differences there are larger classes.

00:02:30.777 ‐‐> 00:02:33.877or we all deadlines there's tuition and

00:02:33.877 ‐‐> 00:02:37.097nd you're making independent decisions and you have a tremendous.

00:02:37.097 ‐‐> 00:02:40.637amount of Freedom at university. So in high school.

00:02:40.637 ‐‐> 00:02:44.197hopefully you had a class of about 30 students or less.

00:02:44.197 ‐‐> 00:02:47.497so you got to know your teachers, your teachers would notice.

00:02:47.497 ‐‐> 00:02:50.517if you're not there. So if you missed a couple days of class, your teachers would.

00:02:50.517 ‐‐> 00:02:53.617t they might send you homework to do

00:02:53.617 ‐‐> 00:02:56.917rk to do at home, and they might ask this how you doing.

00:02:56.917 ‐‐> 00:02:56.917

00:02:57.217 ‐‐> 00:03:00.307Make sure that you're doing well at university classes.

00:03:00.307 ‐‐> 00:03:03.407can be have some smaller classes in the 4th year.

00:03:03.407 ‐‐> 00:03:06.747ar in computer science for the 60 but 60 ish.

00:03:06.747 ‐‐> 00:03:10.297would count as a small class at the university.

00:03:10.297 ‐‐> 00:03:13.377Some of your classes will have 200 students, maybe 300.

00:03:13.377 ‐‐> 00:03:16.667hundred. Our biggest classes at the university I think are about.

00:03:16.667 ‐‐> 00:03:19.767600. Those are not CIS, but.

00:03:19.767 ‐‐> 00:03:23.047have some classes that have 200 students so

00:03:23.047 ‐‐> 00:03:26.067students, so if you don't show up to class for a week, your professor will not.

00:03:26.067 ‐‐> 00:03:29.247know they will not notice. They will not ask to.

00:03:29.247 ‐‐> 00:03:30.367see if you're OK.

00:03:30.417 ‐‐> 00:03:33.487They will not send you extra work. Anything, sort of it, so it's.

00:03:33.487 ‐‐> 00:03:36.557up to you to stand out and it's up to you to ask for help.

00:03:36.557 ‐‐> 00:03:39.927n you need it so if you're sick and you miss a week let somebody

00:03:39.927 ‐‐> 00:03:41.847ebody know so that you can catch up.

00:03:43.007 ‐‐> 00:03:47.117Deadlines are real at university again.

00:03:47.117 ‐‐> 00:03:50.597partially because it's a large class. So to make everything manageable.

00:03:50.597 ‐‐> 00:03:53.727the deadline usually is the deadline. So if you have a.

00:03:53.727 ‐‐> 00:03:57.257drop box assignment due at midnight on friday

00:03:57.257 ‐‐> 00:04:00.417then you have to get it in before midnight on Friday. After that it just.

00:04:00.417 ‐‐> 00:04:03.807closes and you don't really get another chance at, it's just.

00:04:03.807 ‐‐> 00:04:07.017st gone an unless you ask for help or unless something.

00:04:07.017 ‐‐> 00:04:10.037went wrong or you are sick. You're getting a 0 on that.

00:04:10.037 ‐‐> 00:04:12.547it's gone. It's in the past. You can go back to it.

00:04:13.137 ‐‐> 00:04:16.347You're paying tuition, obviously, so that's significant.

00:04:16.347 ‐‐> 00:04:19.987so I know you all want to do well, but.

00:04:19.987 ‐‐> 00:04:23.057academic choices that you make will affect sort.

00:04:23.057 ‐‐> 00:04:26.087of how long it takes for you to graduate, so that's something to keep in.

00:04:26.087 ‐‐> 00:04:29.367mind and again, you're making independent decisions so.

00:04:29.367 ‐‐> 00:04:32.967it's up to you. Go to class, or do you not go to class?

00:04:32.967 ‐‐> 00:04:36.197you hand in your lab? Do not hand in your lab do.

00:04:36.197 ‐‐> 00:04:39.317you take this selective or do you take a different elective those?

00:04:39.317 ‐‐> 00:04:43.367are all choices that you'll have to make, and I'll have some consequences.

00:04:43.367 ‐‐> 00:04:43.367

00:04:43.587 ‐‐> 00:04:46.897And if you're not sure about the consequences, ask April me and we.

00:04:46.897 ‐‐> 00:04:47.497will help.

00:04:49.267 ‐‐> 00:04:52.707So succeeding at university matter that got you all nervous.

00:04:52.707 ‐‐> 00:04:54.277and scared, hopefully not.

00:04:55.487 ‐‐> 00:04:58.577Sitting at university ask questions and ask for help.

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You are here to learn that's why you're here. You're here to learn about.

00:05:01.647 ‐‐> 00:05:05.277computer science, but you'll also learn and grow as a person.

00:05:05.277 ‐‐> 00:05:05.277

00:05:06.517 ‐‐> 00:05:09.867Why is computer science and university education goes try?

00:05:09.867 ‐‐> 00:05:13.377to do the simple things well and consistently so

00:05:13.377 ‐‐> 00:05:16.657o if you can attend all your classes so the lectures.

00:05:16.657 ‐‐> 00:05:19.947the labs, the seminars and if you have questions.

00:05:19.947 ‐‐> 00:05:23.467go to office hours and if you submit assignments

00:05:23.467 ‐‐> 00:05:27.247ents, labs, all of your deliverables by the deadline you are.

00:05:27.247 ‐‐> 00:05:30.4078090% of the way there so you don't have.

00:05:30.407 ‐‐> 00:05:33.847to be a genius. You don't have to be Super Smart as.

00:05:33.847 ‐‐> 00:05:36.867long as you're reasonably organized an you can.

00:05:36.867 ‐‐> 00:05:37.647go to class.

00:05:37.707 ‐‐> 00:05:40.797Labs office hours. If you need help you can submit.

00:05:40.797 ‐‐> 00:05:42.107everything by the deadline.

00:05:42.807 ‐‐> 00:05:44.937Most things will go smoothly.

00:05:47.327 ‐‐> 00:05:50.417So how to ask for help again?

00:05:50.417 ‐‐> 00:05:53.677large university. Many students there's about.

00:05:53.677 ‐‐> 00:05:57.1971000 students just in the batch of computing program.

00:05:57.197 ‐‐> 00:06:00.777You have hundreds of students in your class. It's easy to stay anonymous.

00:06:00.777 ‐‐> 00:06:04.037so something goes wrong. It's possible that nobody.

00:06:04.037 ‐‐> 00:06:07.077will notice that you are struggling and you need help, so it's up.

00:06:07.077 ‐‐> 00:06:10.197to you to reach out and ask for help so within.

00:06:10.197 ‐‐> 00:06:13.237the courses you can ask help from your professors teaching assistance.

00:06:13.237 ‐‐> 00:06:17.207or possibly hired tutor for yourself privately, but professors.

00:06:17.207 ‐‐> 00:06:18.417and teaching assistance.

00:06:18.457 ‐‐> 00:06:21.787make it easy for them to help you so if

00:06:21.787 ‐‐> 00:06:24.927you miss something or you're about to miss something because you're sick

00:06:24.927 ‐‐> 00:06:27.997let's say you have an assignment due on friday and it's wednesday and

00:06:27.997 ‐‐> 00:06:31.227you're really sick and you know that you can get the assignment done then

00:06:31.227 ‐‐> 00:06:34.347I'll wednesday in order professor with your

00:06:34.347 ‐‐> 00:06:37.407name student number course details and

00:06:37.407 ‐‐> 00:06:40.437say I'm really sick right now I'm not going to get better

00:06:40.437 ‐‐> 00:06:43.567I know I can't do my assignment I will not be able to hand it in by friday could I

00:06:43.567 ‐‐> 00:06:45.687please hand it in Monday instead?

00:06:46.277 ‐‐> 00:06:49.477don't wait until midnight on friday and be like oh my gosh I couldn't

00:06:49.477 ‐‐> 00:06:50.417t it done.

00:06:51.627 ‐‐> 00:06:54.817I don't know what to do I'm just going to send this in as it is

00:06:54.817 ‐‐> 00:06:58.167s and then hope for the best. So if you need help, ask for help.

00:06:58.807 ‐‐> 00:07:02.147what kind of help is available how services are there

00:07:02.147 ‐‐> 00:07:05.697with doctors and nurses counseling services here as well

00:07:05.697 ‐‐> 00:07:08.897psychologists counselors and student excessively the services

00:07:08.897 ‐‐> 00:07:12.037is there as well in case you need some kind of learning support

00:07:12.037 ‐‐> 00:07:12.037

00:07:13.517 ‐‐> 00:07:16.687academic information grad tracks planning course

00:07:16.687 ‐‐> 00:07:19.837selection or if you're just not sure so if you need help

00:07:19.837 ‐‐> 00:07:23.297with academic scratch X courses any courses

00:07:23.297 ‐‐> 00:07:26.317course selection minors majors changing degrees

00:07:26.317 ‐‐> 00:07:29.437changing universities any academic thing april and I

00:07:29.437 ‐‐> 00:07:32.477can help you with those and if we're not sure we can help you find

00:07:32.477 ‐‐> 00:07:35.487the right person but even with the other things like if you

00:07:35.487 ‐‐> 00:07:38.927just find your overwhelmed that you just completely lost like I have no idea

00:07:38.927 ‐‐> 00:07:41.957where to go feel free to come to us and we'll help

00:07:41.957 ‐‐> 00:07:43.347d we'll help you find somebody who can help you.

00:07:45.337 ‐‐> 00:07:48.367so how to ask for help again keep in mind professors are teaching

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ing a large class. You don't want to.

00:07:52.907 ‐‐> 00:07:56.087The far too far behind there's limits to how much?

00:07:56.087 ‐‐> 00:07:59.367they can do for you, but again, as.

00:07:59.367 ‐‐> 00:08:02.557s soon as things are going wrong so if you're really sick

00:08:02.557 ‐‐> 00:08:05.627and you're missing a couple of days of class, you're missing half week of class.

00:08:05.627 ‐‐> 00:08:08.767A week of class. You're falling behind the incitement because you're sick.

00:08:08.767 ‐‐> 00:08:12.187As an example, let the professor know right away.

00:08:12.187 ‐‐> 00:08:15.507so they can work with you and help you get caught up. Don't.

00:08:15.507 ‐‐> 00:08:18.797for things to get really bad saving grades

00:08:18.797 ‐‐> 00:08:23.067ades, so ideally, especially in CIS courses.

00:08:23.117 ‐‐> 00:08:26.177their grades will be at least in the 70s or higher

00:08:26.177 ‐‐> 00:08:29.207so if you're doing your labs your assignments everything else you're

00:08:29.207 ‐‐> 00:08:32.597looking for 7 out of 10 or higher ideally

00:08:32.597 ‐‐> 00:08:35.717I mean once in awhile to get a 5 or 6 that's OK but

00:08:35.717 ‐‐> 00:08:37.227six, that's OK, but if you're consistently getting.

00:08:37.867 ‐‐> 00:08:41.25750s 60s below that that's assigned

00:08:41.257 ‐‐> 00:08:44.467for that something is going wrong so if you get 2 or 3 labs for

00:08:44.467 ‐‐> 00:08:48.167labs in a row there are like 5 out of 10 something is

00:08:48.167 ‐‐> 00:08:51.277not going right so definitely get some kind of help from your

00:08:51.277 ‐‐> 00:08:54.497professors and TAS for that and recognize that simple that fairly

00:08:54.497 ‐‐> 00:08:57.677early on if you go to the end of the course it's sort of too late to fix

00:08:57.677 ‐‐> 00:09:00.807it for april me sometimes

00:09:00.807 ‐‐> 00:09:04.157you get really busy so during course selection for example but

00:09:04.157 ‐‐> 00:09:07.477most of the time they will respond to you within a business day

00:09:07.477 ‐‐> 00:09:08.637it helps us.

00:09:08.927 ‐‐> 00:09:12.137you can ask for how clearly this identify yourself

00:09:12.137 ‐‐> 00:09:15.597using linear by using your university of guelph email and

00:09:15.597 ‐‐> 00:09:18.637then include your student number if you can be clear on how we can

00:09:18.637 ‐‐> 00:09:22.077help if you can be if not we can help discover that

00:09:22.077 ‐‐> 00:09:25.567an what you send us this confidential

00:09:25.567 ‐‐> 00:09:29.417ial so we have a responsibility. Keep everything that you send us confidential.

00:09:29.417 ‐‐> 00:09:32.617and confidentiality extends to pretty.

00:09:32.617 ‐‐> 00:09:36.057much everything you are a student at the university, Guelph all.

00:09:36.057 ‐‐> 00:09:39.617your grades, everything else is yours, so even if you're.

00:09:39.767 ‐‐> 00:09:42.837parents or guardians or fans or somebody else cause us that hey can you

00:09:42.837 ‐‐> 00:09:46.207tell me about how joe is doing we can't even tell them that

00:09:46.207 ‐‐> 00:09:49.237at Joe is a student at the University of well, so everything that's.

00:09:49.237 ‐‐> 00:09:51.657n you and us is confidential.

00:09:53.317 ‐‐> 00:09:56.837Course selection add classes as soon as you can.

00:09:56.837 ‐‐> 00:09:59.877So this summer you've already done this. Hopefully you're in courses.

00:09:59.877 ‐‐> 00:10:02.147Hopefully you're happy with your courses and everything is good.

00:10:02.757 ‐‐> 00:10:06.167winter course selection I think will be later on in october

00:10:06.167 ‐‐> 00:10:09.357so as soon as your course selection window try to add courses.

00:10:09.357 ‐‐> 00:10:12.697as best you can. The day that it opens and.

00:10:12.697 ‐‐> 00:10:15.757en you can modify things as needed if you find a better elective you can

00:10:15.757 ‐‐> 00:10:19.017change things around we might be able to help you with cors

00:10:19.017 ‐‐> 00:10:22.437waivers and you should know that prerequisites are

00:10:22.437 ‐‐> 00:10:25.717strictly enforced for CIS courses so for example

00:10:25.717 ‐‐> 00:10:29.017you have to pass the S 1300 to be able to take CIS

00:10:29.017 ‐‐> 00:10:32.4372500 so if you get a 48 or 49

00:10:32.437 ‐‐> 00:10:34.647as a final grade and CIS 1300.

00:10:34.757 ‐‐> 00:10:38.367Then you are delaying graduation possibly.

00:10:38.367 ‐‐> 00:10:41.587by year because you can't go on to the next course.

00:10:41.587 ‐‐> 00:10:44.727o you do have to pass prerequisites because all the courses

00:10:44.727 ‐‐> 00:10:47.867build on each other so until you master the skills

00:10:47.867 ‐‐> 00:10:50.927

and knowledge for one cores you cannot jump into

00:10:50.927 ‐‐> 00:10:52.307into the next course.

00:10:54.097 ‐‐> 00:10:57.517dropping classes there are deadlines for dropping classes

00:10:57.517 ‐‐> 00:11:00.637now they are the last class day.

00:11:00.637 ‐‐> 00:11:03.857in the semester. So academically you can store drop of course.

00:11:03.857 ‐‐> 00:11:04.707that late.

00:11:06.097 ‐‐> 00:11:09.367adding courses you've already done you can still add courses right now

00:11:09.367 ‐‐> 00:11:12.467ow you can add courses all the way through the 1st week of classes until.

00:11:12.467 ‐‐> 00:11:15.527that Friday, assuming there is space in the course, but.

00:11:15.527 ‐‐> 00:11:18.787that's academically so academically you can drop a class. All the.

00:11:18.787 ‐‐> 00:11:22.727ay until the end of the semester. The last class day, but financially.

00:11:22.727 ‐‐> 00:11:26.187refunds have a different refund schedule, so do check the financial.

00:11:26.187 ‐‐> 00:11:29.277services website if you're thinking about dropping courses so for.

00:11:29.277 ‐‐> 00:11:32.487example, if you have 5 courses now, you drop two, you would become.

00:11:32.487 ‐‐> 00:11:35.867a part time student. So if you drop those early enough in the semester.

00:11:35.867 ‐‐> 00:11:37.407you'd get some kind of a refund.

00:11:37.907 ‐‐> 00:11:41.057But if you wait till later on, even if you drop courses.

00:11:41.057 ‐‐> 00:11:43.287you're not getting any kind of a refund for them.

00:11:44.677 ‐‐> 00:11:47.927Exams, some courses will have some final exams.

00:11:47.927 ‐‐> 00:11:51.047some will not. Check your exam schedule.

00:11:51.047 ‐‐> 00:11:54.297today. Probably would be good. Usually they do it after.

00:11:54.297 ‐‐> 00:11:57.607course selection hens, but you can check your exam schedule.

00:11:57.607 ‐‐> 00:12:00.687now, so make sure that there's no conflicts when it.

00:12:00.687 ‐‐> 00:12:03.927comes to exams. Always write them so.

00:12:03.927 ‐‐> 00:12:06.947ess you're looking to get a zero on the final exam you want

00:12:06.947 ‐‐> 00:12:10.187to write your final exam unless you're too sick so

00:12:10.187 ‐‐> 00:12:13.857if you are sick during the time of the exam then

00:12:13.857 ‐‐> 00:12:16.167am, then you could let April and I know.

00:12:16.537 ‐‐> 00:12:19.707there as well if you'd like and ask for a deferred exam

00:12:19.707 ‐‐> 00:12:22.807and then you'd have a deferred exam the following semester

00:12:22.807 ‐‐> 00:12:25.927so if you have an exam let's say December 10th but you're

00:12:25.927 ‐‐> 00:12:29.007ick, you can write the deferred exam. That's OK.

00:12:29.007 ‐‐> 00:12:32.137just let somebody know april and I

00:12:32.137 ‐‐> 00:12:35.527ld be good, but that your deferred exam will probably.

00:12:35.527 ‐‐> 00:12:36.537in February.

00:12:38.967 ‐‐> 00:12:42.427Grades at the University of Guelph completed courses.

00:12:42.427 ‐‐> 00:12:45.647all stay on the transcript. Students can't.

00:12:45.647 ‐‐> 00:12:48.987retake passed courses at this time that might be changing.

00:12:48.987 ‐‐> 00:12:52.197in the very near future, but at this time students cannot.

00:12:52.197 ‐‐> 00:12:55.507retake pass courses and generally, and even if they do.

00:12:55.507 ‐‐> 00:12:58.607both, the Old Course grade and the new course grades they.

00:12:58.607 ‐‐> 00:12:59.497on the transcript.

00:13:01.257 ‐‐> 00:13:03.987And they both affect your grade point average.

00:13:05.657 ‐‐> 00:13:09.147Academic consideration I touched on this with the whole deferred exam.

00:13:09.147 ‐‐> 00:13:12.227thing, so when something goes wrong for reasons outside your control.

00:13:12.227 ‐‐> 00:13:15.467academically loop April high in.

00:13:15.467 ‐‐> 00:13:18.487so that we can help you, we can help you get back on track or make plans.

00:13:18.487 ‐‐> 00:13:21.587for you and you can apply for academic consideration to.

00:13:21.587 ‐‐> 00:13:24.547p sometimes bump you back on track a little bit.

00:13:25.817 ‐‐> 00:13:29.077So again, you're here to learn, so ask lots.

00:13:29.077 ‐‐> 00:13:32.367of questions. Ask for help 'cause again.

00:13:32.367 ‐‐> 00:13:36.087people might not realize that you need it, so you have to be self aware.

00:13:36.087 ‐‐> 00:13:39.207and checking on yourself to make sure that you're OK. And if you're not.

00:13:39.207 ‐‐> 00:13:42.427help and make sure you take care of yourself you're in this

00:13:42.427 ‐‐> 00:13:45.547for marathon university is not a sprint you're here for

00:13:45.547 ‐‐> 00:13:48.607

345 years depending on batch computing

00:13:48.607 ‐‐> 00:13:51.977general degree honors computer science or software engineering

00:13:51.977 ‐‐> 00:13:55.277or with coop so you're here for awhile so

00:13:55.277 ‐‐> 00:13:57.767e for awhile, so make sure you pace yourself. Take care of yourself.

00:13:58.067 ‐‐> 00:14:00.947And if things go wrong, let us know so we can help.

00:14:02.957 ‐‐> 00:14:06.187that's all I have for now so at this point I will pass

00:14:06.187 ‐‐> 00:14:10.597it over to april negatively so she can show you the web resources on how

00:14:10.597 ‐‐> 00:14:12.247w to find help at University.

00:14:15.147 ‐‐> 00:14:18.627Alright, can people see my screen, I wonder?

00:14:21.067 ‐‐> 00:14:24.177something is being shared in live rent minton you place

00:14:24.177 ‐‐> 00:14:25.207so I'm going to say share.

00:14:25.787 ‐‐> 00:14:29.507alright greg are you able to see what I'm sharing

00:14:29.507 ‐‐> 00:14:32.567I can see what you're sharing and I'm still alive

00:14:32.567 ‐‐> 00:14:33.647by thinking video.

00:14:35.187 ‐‐> 00:14:39.637online video OK so I will owe you are so I'll put me

00:14:39.637 ‐‐> 00:14:39.637

00:14:40.347 ‐‐> 00:14:43.667and if I click let's see

00:14:43.667 ‐‐> 00:14:45.687How do I do that mine.

00:14:46.317 ‐‐> 00:14:47.037There.

00:14:49.027 ‐‐> 00:14:52.547alright stop sharing and now I'm going to go

00:14:53.947 ‐‐> 00:14:55.557Here are really hello.

00:14:58.327 ‐‐> 00:14:59.677Be honest screen at least.

00:15:01.987 ‐‐> 00:15:05.007add content I'm going to send me live there OK

00:15:05.007 ‐‐> 00:15:08.487now hopefully you see there we go alright

00:15:08.487 ‐‐> 00:15:11.547so now we're going to try and share it uh share my content

00:15:11.547 ‐‐> 00:15:13.307which would be.

00:15:14.687 ‐‐> 00:15:16.797Well let's see if this is the one.

00:15:17.617 ‐‐> 00:15:18.427Did that work?

00:15:19.807 ‐‐> 00:15:20.557And.

00:15:22.287 ‐‐> 00:15:23.547Uh it's not working.

00:15:24.247 ‐‐> 00:15:25.717Oh there we go send life.

00:15:27.877 ‐‐> 00:15:32.157alright you should see a web page and my face

00:15:32.157 ‐‐> 00:15:32.157

00:15:33.507 ‐‐> 00:15:36.967do you see that greg yep thumbs up from greg alright so

00:15:36.967 ‐‐> 00:15:40.287we talked a lot about getting help um an

00:15:40.287 ‐‐> 00:15:44.127one thing I want to address right off the bat is oftentimes

00:15:44.127 ‐‐> 00:15:47.467people don't want to ask for help there

00:15:47.467 ‐‐> 00:15:50.667y're kind of afraid they don't want anyone to know they can't figure.

00:15:50.667 ‐‐> 00:15:53.827it out. There's sort of ashamed 'cause they think.

00:15:53.827 ‐‐> 00:15:56.927everyone else can handle it, so can I just want you to?

00:15:56.927 ‐‐> 00:16:00.177just like erase that idea completely, OK?

00:16:00.177 ‐‐> 00:16:03.227getting help is there's no shame in.

00:16:03.227 ‐‐> 00:16:05.967it. None at all. OK scientists? They collaborate with their.

00:16:06.017 ‐‐> 00:16:09.157with their colleagues all the time that's the same as getting

00:16:09.157 ‐‐> 00:16:12.347help from their friends um athletes

00:16:12.347 ‐‐> 00:16:15.387if you think about athletes what do they have they get help from coaches

00:16:15.387 ‐‐> 00:16:18.477nutritionists um psychologists they're

00:16:18.477 ‐‐> 00:16:21.787getting help all the time if you're building

00:16:21.787 ‐‐> 00:16:25.287something if you're in some kind of construction or engineering

00:16:25.287 ‐‐> 00:16:28.747they get help all the time by using the tools they need

00:16:28.747 ‐‐> 00:16:31.807so we're going to show you some of the tools an

00:16:31.807 ‐‐> 00:16:34.987and I want you to remember you can always get help. There's no.

00:16:34.987 ‐‐> 00:16:37.347shame in that. So the 1st place you can look.

00:16:37.387 ‐‐> 00:16:40.617Is at our web page here on the school of computer.

00:16:40.617 ‐‐> 00:16:43.757science, our web page here Greg and I.

00:16:43.757 ‐‐> 00:16:47.947

are going to talk to you and this is how we communicate. We post.

00:16:47.947 ‐‐> 00:16:47.947

00:16:48.737 ‐‐> 00:16:51.947Notices things that you need to know and at the bottom there's.

00:16:51.947 ‐‐> 00:16:55.397a little bit about how to reach us, whether it's a quick thing.

00:16:55.397 ‐‐> 00:16:58.747longer or an in depth call, so that's the first website.

00:16:58.747 ‐‐> 00:17:01.897you want to know about. Here's another one. The wiki socks.

00:17:01.897 ‐‐> 00:17:05.077or the socks wiki. This is kind of helpful to you as.

00:17:05.077 ‐‐> 00:17:08.357undergraduate students, because there.

00:17:08.357 ‐‐> 00:17:11.737you can see what courses are being offered.

00:17:11.737 ‐‐> 00:17:14.807so you can see for the following semester as well. You can get course.

00:17:14.807 ‐‐> 00:17:18.457outline, so that's a good place to look. Sometimes some of.

00:17:18.457 ‐‐> 00:17:21.097your courses are going to be offered on the Sox Moodle.

00:17:21.377 ‐‐> 00:17:24.387So this is this website here in particular I.

00:17:24.387 ‐‐> 00:17:27.557want to point out that there is the Where is.

00:17:27.557 ‐‐> 00:17:31.227it the academic integrity quiz computing with integrity?

00:17:31.227 ‐‐> 00:17:31.227

00:17:32.007 ‐‐> 00:17:35.157That's where you want to go. I'm also the integrity officer, so I'll catch you.

00:17:35.157 ‐‐> 00:17:38.277cheating, so you'll want to do a quiz and a.

00:17:38.277 ‐‐> 00:17:41.287module there. So that's the socks wiki. Where else do you want to?

00:17:41.287 ‐‐> 00:17:45.637go sock? So that's the.

00:17:45.637 ‐‐> 00:17:46.697socks Moodle I should say.

00:17:47.877 ‐‐> 00:17:48.577Then

00:17:49.267 ‐‐> 00:17:52.487There's the university web page, the homepage. Now it has like.

00:17:52.487 ‐‐> 00:17:55.807solutely everything you could want to know it's kind of overwhelming

00:17:55.807 ‐‐> 00:17:59.217ing. So what I use is the search box up in the top right.

00:17:59.217 ‐‐> 00:18:02.257Type in whatever you need, and that's how you're going to find.

00:18:02.257 ‐‐> 00:18:04.487ng to do with the University of Guelph.

00:18:05.757 ‐‐> 00:18:09.087The next website you should know about, here's one that people.

00:18:09.087 ‐‐> 00:18:12.207don't know about. This is what I want you to pay attention to this.

00:18:12.207 ‐‐> 00:18:16.187is learning services. They're out of the library and.

00:18:16.187 ‐‐> 00:18:19.367ou can have a one on one appointment this is free

00:18:19.367 ‐‐> 00:18:22.947ee with a professional. They'll talk about time management.

00:18:22.947 ‐‐> 00:18:25.977procrastination, preparing for exams, how?

00:18:25.977 ‐‐> 00:18:29.147to take notes, everything you need to know about succeeding.

00:18:29.147 ‐‐> 00:18:32.267So go to learning services website we can.

00:18:32.267 ‐‐> 00:18:36.247do in person meetings and they also have lots of online.

00:18:36.247 ‐‐> 00:18:36.247

00:18:36.397 ‐‐> 00:18:39.547Resource is, so that's another really good website learning.

00:18:39.547 ‐‐> 00:18:42.547services website was that learning services OK?

00:18:43.967 ‐‐> 00:18:47.507Eventually Greg mentioned this already. You can go to student wellness.

00:18:47.507 ‐‐> 00:18:47.507

00:18:48.287 ‐‐> 00:18:49.607And here.

00:18:50.227 ‐‐> 00:18:53.257There's lots of stuff accessibility services if you have any.

00:18:53.257 ‐‐> 00:18:56.627kind of learning or physical disability, definitely.

00:18:56.627 ‐‐> 00:18:59.677y get yourself registered there to get the accommodations that

00:18:59.677 ‐‐> 00:19:03.217you're entitled to by law getting accommodations

00:19:03.217 ‐‐> 00:19:06.857of weakness, right? It's leveling.

00:19:06.857 ‐‐> 00:19:10.177the playing field. If you have a disability of any.

00:19:10.177 ‐‐> 00:19:13.467kind, there's counseling services. If you're having mental.

00:19:13.467 ‐‐> 00:19:16.507or emotional problems, health services for your physical.

00:19:16.507 ‐‐> 00:19:20.227things, there's health and performance. If you're into sports.

00:19:20.227 ‐‐> 00:19:20.227

00:19:20.357 ‐‐> 00:19:21.877And.

00:19:23.387 ‐‐> 00:19:26.957More online material with the wellness education center student support.

00:19:26.957 ‐‐> 00:19:28.277networks not working this year.

00:19:28.897 ‐‐> 00:19:30.097

Or at least when we're online.

00:19:30.717 ‐‐> 00:19:34.447so there's all of those different um things and

00:19:34.447 ‐‐> 00:19:35.417en.

00:19:36.047 ‐‐> 00:19:39.247Those are most of the websites that.

00:19:39.247 ‐‐> 00:19:42.427you'll want to use, and again, if you're.

00:19:42.427 ‐‐> 00:19:45.507not sure where to go, ask.

00:19:45.507 ‐‐> 00:19:48.547Greg and I will kind of like the tourist information one stop.

00:19:48.547 ‐‐> 00:19:51.977shopping. You'll always remember us where we are.

00:19:51.977 ‐‐> 00:19:55.067Say I want to know about and we can forward.

00:19:55.067 ‐‐> 00:19:58.267you in the right direction, so I think.

00:19:58.267 ‐‐> 00:20:01.607what we'll do now is we will go.

00:20:01.607 ‐‐> 00:20:04.987and will start taking questions. Greg did you want to chime in?

00:20:04.987 ‐‐> 00:20:04.987

00:20:06.237 ‐‐> 00:20:07.127On that.

00:20:07.707 ‐‐> 00:20:11.167It sounds good. Let's keep questions so.

00:20:11.167 ‐‐> 00:20:14.407he was you type your questions in the question and answer.

00:20:14.407 ‐‐> 00:20:17.427and then we'll answer them, probably verbally.

00:20:17.427 ‐‐> 00:20:18.967Yes, yeah.

00:20:20.517 ‐‐> 00:20:23.567Add the question so if you are in the Microsoft.

00:20:23.567 ‐‐> 00:20:26.707teams full application near the top right.

00:20:26.707 ‐‐> 00:20:26.707

00:20:27.437 ‐‐> 00:20:30.517There's a little question mark in a box.

00:20:30.517 ‐‐> 00:20:33.787kind of thing with the Q&A. So if you type your questions.

00:20:33.787 ‐‐> 00:20:36.917in there, we will try to answer them so.

00:20:36.917 ‐‐> 00:20:40.057there's a couple of questions already there, would you?

00:20:40.057 ‐‐> 00:20:43.667pizza? Just don't just read it out to your phone. You can try sure.

00:20:43.667 ‐‐> 00:20:47.107OK, so question one will desire books too used.

00:20:47.107 ‐‐> 00:20:49.157in the second semester as well.

00:20:50.417 ‐‐> 00:20:53.977They're really popular with students and it depends on the instructor.

00:20:53.977 ‐‐> 00:20:57.357so some will choose to use them. Some will choose not.

00:20:57.357 ‐‐> 00:21:00.537but yeah, there a great resource that students.

00:21:00.537 ‐‐> 00:21:03.767quite and they were used even before we went online.

00:21:03.767 ‐‐> 00:21:03.767

00:21:04.537 ‐‐> 00:21:06.037So good chance, yes.

00:21:07.477 ‐‐> 00:21:10.517Where can I find the exam schedule?

00:21:10.517 ‐‐> 00:21:10.517

00:21:12.267 ‐‐> 00:21:15.487If you go to web advisor, that's.

00:21:15.487 ‐‐> 00:21:18.517I guess I didn't show you. Why would visor as one of the.

00:21:18.517 ‐‐> 00:21:21.647lpful websites. Anyways? There's go to web advisor and then on the.

00:21:21.647 ‐‐> 00:21:23.557right side. Usually it says exams.

00:21:28.477 ‐‐> 00:21:29.327How?

00:21:31.107 ‐‐> 00:21:34.537I don't think we have an answer to this. When was I supposed to get my student?

00:21:34.537 ‐‐> 00:21:37.577ID card? I'm assuming you mean your student ID card.

00:21:37.577 ‐‐> 00:21:40.987because your student ID you already have. Hopefully, like you have your.

00:21:40.987 ‐‐> 00:21:43.637grief Mail login and all that stuff.

00:21:45.767 ‐‐> 00:21:47.297Hey Paul, do I don't know.

00:21:48.607 ‐‐> 00:21:48.947Posted.

00:21:50.927 ‐‐> 00:21:51.617Soon.

00:21:53.227 ‐‐> 00:21:56.267I mean in my other institution that I'm.

00:21:56.267 ‐‐> 00:21:59.537going to, they sent it to me online.

00:21:59.537 ‐‐> 00:22:02.857the other day, so you should be getting it very soon.

00:22:04.437 ‐‐> 00:22:07.677If not, contact the registrar and they will tell you.

00:22:09.237 ‐‐> 00:22:11.727Can we have a list of the websites?

00:22:12.937 ‐‐> 00:22:16.197Yes, I will post that.

00:22:16.197 ‐‐> 00:22:19.217Let me find a pen. I'll post that on.

00:22:19.217 ‐‐> 00:22:22.457

that website that Greg and I told you the socks.

00:22:22.457 ‐‐> 00:22:25.757website. I will make a list of the helpful websites.

00:22:25.757 ‐‐> 00:22:29.727post so I will post all these other links onto.

00:22:29.727 ‐‐> 00:22:29.727

00:22:30.337 ‐‐> 00:22:33.447The Sox website under undergraduate program.

00:22:33.447 ‐‐> 00:22:35.777calcium. How do they find this ACS website?

00:22:37.857 ‐‐> 00:22:40.927We just put that.

00:22:40.927 ‐‐> 00:22:44.147in this chat, so if.

00:22:44.147 ‐‐> 00:22:46.107I go back to.

00:22:47.457 ‐‐> 00:22:50.477This was even get my cursor over to my second screen there and if.

00:22:50.477 ‐‐> 00:22:53.977I go to undergraduate program counseling copy.

00:22:53.977 ‐‐> 00:22:56.337the link, I'm going to put it in the discussion controls.

00:22:57.917 ‐‐> 00:22:58.917Go back up.

00:22:59.967 ‐‐> 00:23:02.207And under published.

00:23:02.787 ‐‐> 00:23:04.107Making announcements.

00:23:07.747 ‐‐> 00:23:08.767I see.

00:23:10.007 ‐‐> 00:23:11.197Can everybody see that?

00:23:12.287 ‐‐> 00:23:12.977I'm hoping.

00:23:15.097 ‐‐> 00:23:18.307Published yes, so that's the link where.

00:23:18.307 ‐‐> 00:23:21.647I'm going to post the link to the other.

00:23:21.647 ‐‐> 00:23:24.657helpful websites. As you're alive fan can.

00:23:24.657 ‐‐> 00:23:28.047ou show them how to get to it from the main school computer science website?

00:23:28.047 ‐‐> 00:23:30.847Yes, alright so.

00:23:31.907 ‐‐> 00:23:34.427Let's see if you go to.

00:23:38.047 ‐‐> 00:23:41.117Do you think you can get to the school of computer science while here I'll actually show.

00:23:41.117 ‐‐> 00:23:45.177you how I would get to it if I didn't already have it bookmarked. It's mostly.

00:23:45.177 ‐‐> 00:23:48.707cutoff hold on. Sorry you're becoming the top left of your browser.

00:23:52.137 ‐‐> 00:23:53.827Can you see I'm gonna do full screen?

00:23:55.177 ‐‐> 00:23:55.537Yep.

00:23:56.927 ‐‐> 00:24:01.357There because it's considered top left of your browser. Yeah, really.

00:24:01.357 ‐‐> 00:24:01.357

00:24:02.757 ‐‐> 00:24:05.867I can see I can see I can see.

00:24:05.867 ‐‐> 00:24:06.197it all.

00:24:07.247 ‐‐> 00:24:10.257So if you go to the school of computer website, so you go to.

00:24:10.257 ‐‐> 00:24:13.477the University of Guelph, you type in the right top.

00:24:13.477 ‐‐> 00:24:17.557Box School of computer science and you'll come to the school of computer science homepage.

00:24:17.557 ‐‐> 00:24:17.557

00:24:18.617 ‐‐> 00:24:21.347And then you'll say I'm an undergraduate.

00:24:22.177 ‐‐> 00:24:26.007An I want to talk to my program counselor 'cause they said.

00:24:26.007 ‐‐> 00:24:28.937they were going to post links. So then I go down to the program counseling.

00:24:30.737 ‐‐> 00:24:33.907And then that's where it says undergraduate program.

00:24:33.907 ‐‐> 00:24:35.947counseling that I'll put an update there.

00:24:37.097 ‐‐> 00:24:38.287With all the helpful links.

00:24:40.007 ‐‐> 00:24:43.057Thank you, would you like to keep answering questions or would you?

00:24:43.057 ‐‐> 00:24:46.217like to read somehow he would try 'cause I've.

00:24:46.217 ‐‐> 00:24:49.297talked to you back and forth and had to go backwards.

00:24:49.297 ‐‐> 00:24:52.6775 six and then we'll switch back and forth. So I'm just saying I'm not.

00:24:52.677 ‐‐> 00:24:55.777taking them in order. I'm taking them sort of like in order of relevance.

00:24:55.777 ‐‐> 00:24:58.917so there's lots of questions that we haven't done yet, so you should.

00:24:58.917 ‐‐> 00:25:00.577spy code from the top.

00:25:01.757 ‐‐> 00:25:02.157

00:25:03.237 ‐‐> 00:25:06.407I you myself up, I think.

00:25:10.287 ‐‐> 00:25:13.347And send myself like if we don't answer.

00:25:13.347 ‐‐> 00:25:16.987your questions verbally right now eventually.

00:25:16.987 ‐‐> 00:25:18.027we'll get to them.

00:25:19.487 ‐‐> 00:25:20.497

I'm hoping.

00:25:24.127 ‐‐> 00:25:27.377So we've got. We've got like another hour, so we I think we will be able to answer all.

00:25:27.377 ‐‐> 00:25:30.527of your questions live here. But if we don't, or if you.

00:25:30.527 ‐‐> 00:25:33.677didn't already did answer well enough, Please send us an email.

00:25:33.677 ‐‐> 00:25:37.177and we will answer by email, nothing else.

00:25:37.177 ‐‐> 00:25:40.467Alright, so there was one student who posted about 6 questions.

00:25:40.467 ‐‐> 00:25:44.077in one post at the top of our quite Q&A's. Not going to take all of.

00:25:44.077 ‐‐> 00:25:47.097them early shall that be?

00:25:47.097 ‐‐> 00:25:50.277an email to that specific student I think the first

00:25:50.277 ‐‐> 00:25:53.437st question is will I be able to study full time fully?

00:25:53.437 ‐‐> 00:25:55.547online during winter 2021?

00:25:55.997 ‐‐> 00:25:58.667And the only answer I can say that as we don't know.

00:26:02.027 ‐‐> 00:26:03.517And then the rest of the things.

00:26:04.767 ‐‐> 00:26:08.297Assuming the ones to specializing game development and game industry.

00:26:08.297 ‐‐> 00:26:11.317media, are there any activities, clubs?

00:26:11.317 ‐‐> 00:26:14.497or seminars or I could be used for anywhere I could

00:26:14.497 ‐‐> 00:26:17.607develop? So yes, the University of golf.

00:26:17.607 ‐‐> 00:26:21.077school computer science does have many student groups.

00:26:21.077 ‐‐> 00:26:21.077

00:26:22.537 ‐‐> 00:26:25.567And they also have a discord. How do you get invited to this?

00:26:25.567 ‐‐> 00:26:28.917rd if you go to yoga wealth? Read it as.

00:26:28.917 ‐‐> 00:26:32.017somebody posted the invite link a couple of days ago, so you could.

00:26:32.017 ‐‐> 00:26:35.617o through that. And then as far as for finding the student groups.

00:26:35.617 ‐‐> 00:26:38.847the discord might be best to find that especially about.

00:26:38.847 ‐‐> 00:26:41.897when they're going to start. But as part of the online orientation.

00:26:41.897 ‐‐> 00:26:45.297activities, the student groups are also hosting activities.

00:26:45.297 ‐‐> 00:26:46.837So check those out.

00:26:50.297 ‐‐> 00:26:53.367And Greg, just to mention the student groups there is.

00:26:53.367 ‐‐> 00:26:56.447like the there's specific this.

00:26:56.447 ‐‐> 00:26:59.507so kiss which is cool computer science club.

00:26:59.507 ‐‐> 00:27:02.867And there's also a two specific.

00:27:02.867 ‐‐> 00:27:06.467ones that are related to computing specifically and they.

00:27:06.467 ‐‐> 00:27:08.507should be on the school computer science website.

00:27:11.577 ‐‐> 00:27:12.347

00:27:13.797 ‐‐> 00:27:17.377Did you want to address? How does coop work so?

00:27:17.377 ‐‐> 00:27:20.477how does coop work? That's a very broad.

00:27:20.477 ‐‐> 00:27:23.897question. I'm not sure what the person is asking and.

00:27:23.897 ‐‐> 00:27:28.037their anonymous, so how does coop work? So coop is?

00:27:28.037 ‐‐> 00:27:31.2575 years 400 degree instead of four so.

00:27:31.257 ‐‐> 00:27:34.747honor's computer science or software engineering is for years.

00:27:34.747 ‐‐> 00:27:38.347So eight full‐time academic semesters. So five courses.

00:27:38.347 ‐‐> 00:27:38.347

00:27:39.117 ‐‐> 00:27:42.287Fall winter following through following through fall, winter and.

00:27:42.287 ‐‐> 00:27:45.327then students graduate with honors, software engineering or computer.

00:27:45.327 ‐‐> 00:27:48.527science. If they do co op they do 2.

00:27:48.527 ‐‐> 00:27:51.687o years of five courses, 5 courses, 5 courses.

00:27:51.687 ‐‐> 00:27:54.9875 courses but then they start working on Co op work.

00:27:54.987 ‐‐> 00:27:58.287terms and they have 5 Co op work terms in their.

00:27:58.287 ‐‐> 00:28:01.387three in the summer, one in the fall, one in the winter.

00:28:01.387 ‐‐> 00:28:04.887and so they graduate one year later and.

00:28:04.887 ‐‐> 00:28:08.267they get about two years of work experience.

00:28:08.267 ‐‐> 00:28:09.767that's paid alongside.

00:28:09.827 ‐‐> 00:28:12.847They still take all the same courses they still have.

00:28:12.847 ‐‐> 00:28:16.457paid academic semesters. They're still taking five courses semester.

00:28:16.457 ‐‐> 00:28:19.977but they take times out to also.

00:28:19.977 ‐‐> 00:28:23.057

work and learn on the job.

00:28:23.057 ‐‐> 00:28:26.117How does crop work? But cover co op in more detail?

00:28:26.117 ‐‐> 00:28:28.087tomorrow at meet the majors?

00:28:28.807 ‐‐> 00:28:31.997But briefly, how cooperative says you're either in Co op now?

00:28:31.997 ‐‐> 00:28:35.037or you're not. If you are in coop there.

00:28:35.037 ‐‐> 00:28:38.177are certain requirements you have to meet, so you have to be a full time student. Both fall and.

00:28:38.177 ‐‐> 00:28:41.407winter, and then you also have to have a piece of 70%.

00:28:41.407 ‐‐> 00:28:44.437GPA at the end of the winter semester.

00:28:44.437 ‐‐> 00:28:44.437

00:28:45.917 ‐‐> 00:28:49.127If you're not in Co op, you can apply to join Coop and.

00:28:49.127 ‐‐> 00:28:52.567if there are spots available you'd need be admitted for next.

00:28:52.567 ‐‐> 00:28:56.247summer. I think that's about that's a.

00:28:56.247 ‐‐> 00:28:59.667good overview of hard coop works will cover it in more detail tomorrow at.

00:28:59.667 ‐‐> 00:29:00.277the majors.

00:29:01.617 ‐‐> 00:29:04.857The next question is near and dear to my heart. Since I'm the integrity.

00:29:04.857 ‐‐> 00:29:07.967officer it is. Should we complete the computing with?

00:29:07.967 ‐‐> 00:29:11.117integrity module before we start classes?

00:29:11.117 ‐‐> 00:29:11.117

00:29:12.597 ‐‐> 00:29:13.537

I said that Excel.

00:29:15.147 ‐‐> 00:29:15.797We live.

00:29:18.387 ‐‐> 00:29:21.627Alright, I'm integrity officer this.

00:29:21.627 ‐‐> 00:29:24.977integrity module. Yes, you need to complete it as soon.

00:29:24.977 ‐‐> 00:29:28.017as you it takes 2 hours to do, which I know is.

00:29:28.017 ‐‐> 00:29:31.097lovely but it will save you.

00:29:31.097 ‐‐> 00:29:35.157because if you accidentally commit plagiarism.

00:29:35.157 ‐‐> 00:29:38.357if you accidentally do any kind

00:29:38.357 ‐‐> 00:29:41.597of misconduct copying, cheating. But mostly what happens.

00:29:41.597 ‐‐> 00:29:44.777is people accidentally copy things without knowing it, they don't.

00:29:44.777 ‐‐> 00:29:47.737reference properly or they post it on.

00:29:47.887 ‐‐> 00:29:51.187Those tutoring websites they don't know. So then if.

00:29:51.187 ‐‐> 00:29:54.247you do the integrity module that will prevent.

00:29:54.247 ‐‐> 00:29:57.327you, or at least you'll know what's OK.

00:29:57.327 ‐‐> 00:30:00.747and what's not OK, because if you get dinged for academic.

00:30:00.747 ‐‐> 00:30:03.957misconduct it goes on your transcript and you don't really.

00:30:03.957 ‐‐> 00:30:07.247want that there. So for sure, take.

00:30:07.247 ‐‐> 00:30:10.597the time, do the integrity model where you only have to do it once.

00:30:10.597 ‐‐> 00:30:13.887Although I would recommend a refresher course each semester so.

00:30:13.887 ‐‐> 00:30:16.897definitely yes, and that's on the Sox Moodle.

00:30:20.677 ‐‐> 00:30:21.917Alright, Greg.

00:30:23.667 ‐‐> 00:30:27.177The next question is are co op solid gold. I've again you sent.

00:30:27.177 ‐‐> 00:30:30.377me live, thank you. That's right so co op.

00:30:30.377 ‐‐> 00:30:33.577questions. I'm also the Co op faculty advisor.

00:30:33.577 ‐‐> 00:30:36.697so if you're in Co op, you'll be sending me work term reports.

00:30:36.697 ‐‐> 00:30:39.777That's also part of Coop. So not only is it paid job experience.

00:30:39.777 ‐‐> 00:30:43.077it's also you sort of have to describe about.

00:30:43.077 ‐‐> 00:30:46.207how that work experience connects with learning at the.

00:30:46.207 ‐‐> 00:30:48.207University. So part of that is creating a work.

00:30:48.927 ‐‐> 00:30:52.097Work term report where you report back.

00:30:52.097 ‐‐> 00:30:55.517to us about how your work done went. But the.

00:30:55.517 ‐‐> 00:30:58.947question is if you're not currently in the coop for your program.

00:30:58.947 ‐‐> 00:31:02.017should you be applying for Co op to gain entry.

00:31:02.017 ‐‐> 00:31:05.117for second semester so you can't gain entry for.

00:31:05.117 ‐‐> 00:31:08.607second semester, but you could gain entry for the summer.

00:31:08.607 ‐‐> 00:31:11.617and you need to apply before classes and in the.

00:31:11.617 ‐‐> 00:31:15.197winter semester so you could do it in September.

00:31:15.197 ‐‐> 00:31:18.637The deadline will probably be early April.

00:31:18.637 ‐‐> 00:31:20.257at the latest so.

00:31:20.307 ‐‐> 00:31:23.377there's no need to wait that long if you are not in co op now and you

00:31:23.377 ‐‐> 00:31:26.637want to be in Co op, you can apply. Don't apply yet like classes.

00:31:26.637 ‐‐> 00:31:29.677haven't started, the semester hasn't started, everything is sort of just.

00:31:29.677 ‐‐> 00:31:32.707kind of like starting up, so don't do it.

00:31:32.707 ‐‐> 00:31:35.877yet. But later in September you could apply how?

00:31:35.877 ‐‐> 00:31:39.237would I go about applying? You would go to the Co op.

00:31:39.237 ‐‐> 00:31:42.297website, look at their forms, there's.

00:31:42.297 ‐‐> 00:31:45.337a form. Therefore applying to coop you would fill that out and.

00:31:45.337 ‐‐> 00:31:48.497send that in an if you're not sure how to do it or you can't find.

00:31:48.497 ‐‐> 00:31:51.577the form letter April and I Know and we will help.

00:31:51.577 ‐‐> 00:31:52.437you find it.

00:31:52.887 ‐‐> 00:31:56.037Another cloud question, since I did not get.

00:31:56.037 ‐‐> 00:31:59.117coop from high school, how would I go about applying for now?

00:31:59.117 ‐‐> 00:32:03.317Same for now, you would just fill out a form soonish.

00:32:03.317 ‐‐> 00:32:06.417the next month or so. Coop office will hold on.

00:32:06.417 ‐‐> 00:32:09.697that next summer next summer if.

00:32:09.697 ‐‐> 00:32:13.227

there's space within the batch of Computing Co. Op program.

00:32:13.227 ‐‐> 00:32:16.427they would take the highest GPA students. So if there are 20 spots.

00:32:16.427 ‐‐> 00:32:19.737that are available in the summer, they will look at all the applications.

00:32:19.737 ‐‐> 00:32:23.377You still have to meet the minimum requirements, so you have to be full time fall winter.

00:32:23.377 ‐‐> 00:32:23.377

00:32:23.517 ‐‐> 00:32:26.547And you still have to have at least 70% GPA.

00:32:26.547 ‐‐> 00:32:29.587and then after 20 spots they're co. Op will take the 20 highest.

00:32:29.587 ‐‐> 00:32:30.977GPA applicants.

00:32:33.277 ‐‐> 00:32:36.457The next question is I'm taking stats.

00:32:36.457 ‐‐> 00:32:39.7372040 in my first semester. Is this bad?

00:32:39.737 ‐‐> 00:32:39.737

00:32:41.237 ‐‐> 00:32:44.377It's not bad. You can take you have the prerequisite so.

00:32:44.377 ‐‐> 00:32:47.537the projects that I think is calculus cycle high school calculus so you all.

00:32:47.537 ‐‐> 00:32:48.437have that.

00:32:49.927 ‐‐> 00:32:53.177It could be slightly bad in that is a second year course so.

00:32:53.177 ‐‐> 00:32:56.337it will be challenging. So if you're really good.

00:32:56.337 ‐‐> 00:32:59.847at math and stats and you math and stats you're thinking about doing math.

00:32:59.847 ‐‐> 00:33:02.857or stats minor, they by all.

00:33:02.857 ‐‐> 00:33:05.997means do it. But it's not going to be a final active so.

00:33:05.997 ‐‐> 00:33:09.097you're just taking it to get a required course out of the.

00:33:09.097 ‐‐> 00:33:12.107way. You're usually scheduled to take it in 3rd year, I think.

00:33:12.107 ‐‐> 00:33:15.187so if you're just taking it to get it out of the way now, rather than do it.

00:33:15.187 ‐‐> 00:33:18.257in 3rd year, then that's kind of bad, yes?

00:33:18.257 ‐‐> 00:33:21.647it will be a hard course. Many students have failed it.

00:33:21.647 ‐‐> 00:33:21.647

00:33:21.817 ‐‐> 00:33:24.847But if you math and stats you have the requirements for it you.

00:33:24.847 ‐‐> 00:33:27.887have the skills for it, so it will be hard, but you can do it in this could be.

00:33:27.887 ‐‐> 00:33:31.027fun, so just depends on the individual student, it's not.

00:33:31.027 ‐‐> 00:33:34.157good or bad. Depends on what your goals are.

00:33:34.157 ‐‐> 00:33:37.347and how ready you feel. For it is a second year course though for sure so it.

00:33:37.347 ‐‐> 00:33:39.047will be hard within the first year courses.

00:33:41.707 ‐‐> 00:33:44.877And then we have. When can I expect?

00:33:44.877 ‐‐> 00:33:46.997to get the syllabus for my courses?

00:33:47.677 ‐‐> 00:33:50.897Syllabus is like the course outlines if.

00:33:50.897 ‐‐> 00:33:54.107you go on the Sox wiki, hopefully you're able to log in now.

00:33:54.107 ‐‐> 00:33:54.107

00:33:55.897 ‐‐> 00:33:58.917Maybe I will send you an email about the socks wiki or no will just put.

00:33:58.917 ‐‐> 00:34:02.087it on our website, so we'll put the socks Click Committee on the program counseling.

00:34:02.087 ‐‐> 00:34:05.157website so you have the link. You should be able to log in most.

00:34:05.157 ‐‐> 00:34:08.217of the cores outlines are there now so you'll be able.

00:34:08.217 ‐‐> 00:34:11.807to get your CIS course outlines today or tomorrow.

00:34:11.807 ‐‐> 00:34:14.857For the most part. For other courses if.

00:34:14.857 ‐‐> 00:34:16.797you're really keen you could try searching.

00:34:17.747 ‐‐> 00:34:20.927The department website for them, but for the most.

00:34:20.927 ‐‐> 00:34:24.077part you'll be getting cors outlines during your first class, so the 1st.

00:34:24.077 ‐‐> 00:34:27.167t class that's going to happen this Thursday or Friday for.

00:34:27.167 ‐‐> 00:34:30.797your courses. That is basically an overview class mostly.

00:34:30.797 ‐‐> 00:34:34.047professors don't cover content, some might, but it's mostly.

00:34:34.047 ‐‐> 00:34:37.217an overview of the courses, like how the courses graded what.

00:34:37.217 ‐‐> 00:34:40.437the requirements are, they have to buy a textbook or textbooks optional.

00:34:40.437 ‐‐> 00:34:43.697what resources you have to use, so all those things will be covered in the 1st.

00:34:46.257 ‐‐> 00:34:49.667Here's a here's a course I gotta pass it back to you. Unless it's.

00:34:49.667 ‐‐> 00:34:51.827not for this one, don't goodbye.

00:34:53.367 ‐‐> 00:34:56.507Do I absolutely have to have the use the?

00:34:56.507 ‐‐> 00:34:59.797virtual no machine for CIS 13?

00:34:59.797 ‐‐> 00:35:03.077

0? So that's a very core specific.

00:35:03.077 ‐‐> 00:35:06.117question, so that would be a question for the professor and having.

00:35:06.117 ‐‐> 00:35:09.137n't seen the course outline for CS 1300, so we're not.

00:35:09.137 ‐‐> 00:35:12.317sure if the professor says you're using virtual machine.

00:35:12.317 ‐‐> 00:35:13.657then Yes, you're using virtual machine.

00:35:17.957 ‐‐> 00:35:21.167I don't really know the answer the next question.

00:35:21.167 ‐‐> 00:35:24.847which is I supposed to pick up my week box today to live.

00:35:24.847 ‐‐> 00:35:26.117I'm going live OK.

00:35:28.917 ‐‐> 00:35:32.137Alright, so the next one says I'm supposed to pick up my oec.

00:35:32.137 ‐‐> 00:35:35.477box today, yay, but I haven't received an email.

00:35:35.477 ‐‐> 00:35:37.897with the location. Where should I go?

00:35:40.067 ‐‐> 00:35:41.237I don't have no idea.

00:35:42.867 ‐‐> 00:35:46.047Email somebody is usually how I would do it, so I would.

00:35:46.047 ‐‐> 00:35:46.047

00:35:46.777 ‐‐> 00:35:49.817I can look that up and post it all week.

00:35:49.817 ‐‐> 00:35:50.377

00:35:51.167 ‐‐> 00:35:54.567I don't know the answer that one. I usually just search for orientation.

00:35:54.567 ‐‐> 00:35:57.657weekend box and see if there's any contacts about who you should ask.

00:35:57.657 ‐‐> 00:35:58.047for it.

00:35:59.407 ‐‐> 00:35:59.907Really.

00:36:01.667 ‐‐> 00:36:04.777Did you want to read the questions I'm trying?

00:36:04.777 ‐‐> 00:36:07.147to find the ones that would be good for you.

00:36:08.867 ‐‐> 00:36:10.827I like this question, I think.

00:36:12.357 ‐‐> 00:36:15.727Through the course CIS 2750 and.

00:36:15.727 ‐‐> 00:36:18.947people call the angel of death.

00:36:18.947 ‐‐> 00:36:21.627is it really as hard as they make it out to be?

00:36:22.837 ‐‐> 00:36:24.567And the answer is.

00:36:26.627 ‐‐> 00:36:27.617Kind of.

00:36:28.917 ‐‐> 00:36:31.987Things that you have to do the work, I think.

00:36:31.987 ‐‐> 00:36:35.227when people make it hard is because it integrates a lot of different.

00:36:35.227 ‐‐> 00:36:38.587ideas. So if you've done your work.

00:36:38.587 ‐‐> 00:36:41.847all the way up there and in the course if.

00:36:41.847 ‐‐> 00:36:45.187you like, Greg says go to lecture.

00:36:45.187 ‐‐> 00:36:48.207attend the labs, do the readings, do your.

00:36:48.207 ‐‐> 00:36:51.267homework, ask questions when you need it will be.

00:36:51.267 ‐‐> 00:36:54.907It'll totally be fine. It's a little bit of a work course.

00:36:54.907 ‐‐> 00:36:57.967but it's not like you're not going to.

00:36:57.967 ‐‐> 00:37:00.227die. Do you job and you'll be OK.

00:37:00.807 ‐‐> 00:37:03.077It's only if you then you're going to be in trouble.

00:37:06.607 ‐‐> 00:37:10.227The only bad questions, they just want to pick the ones that you can read.

00:37:10.227 ‐‐> 00:37:12.337them out yourself can read them out if you want.

00:37:15.507 ‐‐> 00:37:18.987Sorry me or you can read them out and then I'll answer how's that.

00:37:18.987 ‐‐> 00:37:18.987

00:37:20.527 ‐‐> 00:37:24.007This question might be too early to ask, but their exams.

00:37:24.007 ‐‐> 00:37:26.267handwritten code portions.

00:37:27.927 ‐‐> 00:37:30.707This semester you won't have anything handwritten.

00:37:32.097 ‐‐> 00:37:35.117Go on line, but.

00:37:35.117 ‐‐> 00:37:38.487yeah, I think they do, don't they? Great I think.

00:37:38.487 ‐‐> 00:37:41.547they could. They show you section of code or say.

00:37:41.547 ‐‐> 00:37:44.567how do you write this for sure that's fair game. I mean, that's what you're learning.

00:37:44.567 ‐‐> 00:37:45.437how to do right?

00:37:48.627 ‐‐> 00:37:51.747Could you post your preferred contact information?

00:37:51.747 ‐‐> 00:37:51.747

00:37:53.727 ‐‐> 00:37:57.357That actually is already on that socks website.

00:37:57.357 ‐‐> 00:38:00.537and so our preferred email.

00:38:00.537 ‐‐> 00:38:03.707

is. Let me see if I can just do that right now.

00:38:03.707 ‐‐> 00:38:06.737I'm going to go. I have to go publish. Do this now.

00:38:08.097 ‐‐> 00:38:08.837Publish.

00:38:09.947 ‐‐> 00:38:13.157Zoom over to the publish side.

00:38:13.157 ‐‐> 00:38:13.157

00:38:13.977 ‐‐> 00:38:17.217And it is CS counts.

00:38:17.217 ‐‐> 00:38:19.897at you.

00:38:21.317 ‐‐> 00:38:24.787Dot CA so this is important information.

00:38:24.787 ‐‐> 00:38:24.787

00:38:26.007 ‐‐> 00:38:29.167Right, This is where you contact Greg and I at this email.

00:38:29.167 ‐‐> 00:38:32.347Not like it's not just sharing your.

00:38:32.347 ‐‐> 00:38:34.727display so we can see what you're saying.

00:38:36.367 ‐‐> 00:38:39.397I just and I Q&A OK in the queue and.

00:38:39.397 ‐‐> 00:38:42.537everybody look at the Q&A at CS counts that you quote dot.

00:38:42.537 ‐‐> 00:38:45.567OK, this is where you email don't email me personally, I.

00:38:45.567 ‐‐> 00:38:48.817don't want it mixed in with all my personal emails, right CSS?

00:38:48.817 ‐‐> 00:38:52.117counts Greg and I both monitor that so you'll get a faster.

00:38:52.117 ‐‐> 00:38:55.277answer. 'cause There's two people watching it instead of 1 alright.

00:38:55.277 ‐‐> 00:38:58.537and then that keeps a record of all the stuff that's going on with you.

00:38:58.537 ‐‐> 00:39:01.837So that's how I like to be contacted, but.

00:39:01.837 ‐‐> 00:39:05.057on the program council website it also.

00:39:05.057 ‐‐> 00:39:06.457site, it also has two other ways to reach us.

00:39:06.837 ‐‐> 00:39:10.107Yeah, night shadow of the Q&A will go into the recording or not?

00:39:10.107 ‐‐> 00:39:13.157I don't know, but it's off. It doesn't then yes.

00:39:13.157 ‐‐> 00:39:16.567you can find their contact information on the program counseling part.

00:39:16.567 ‐‐> 00:39:18.457of the school computer science website.

00:39:19.787 ‐‐> 00:39:23.217Where are we in questions? How OK what?

00:39:23.217 ‐‐> 00:39:26.937is the single most common trade you 2 have seen unsuccessful?

00:39:26.937 ‐‐> 00:39:28.237computing students?

00:39:28.957 ‐‐> 00:39:30.417I love this question.

00:39:32.577 ‐‐> 00:39:35.787I wouldn't say there is. As with anything, there's no.

00:39:35.787 ‐‐> 00:39:39.087single trait, it's a whole bunch of things that.

00:39:39.087 ‐‐> 00:39:42.917come together to create characteristics of success, right?

00:39:42.917 ‐‐> 00:39:46.807And so one is the.

00:39:46.807 ‐‐> 00:39:46.807

00:39:48.167 ‐‐> 00:39:51.257showing up and doing what you're asked right so what greg said is

00:39:51.257 ‐‐> 00:39:54.457is doing the work that you're supposed to so the hard work time.

00:39:54.457 ‐‐> 00:39:57.527management motivation asking.

00:39:57.527 ‐‐> 00:40:01.117for help an also your Peer Group A.

00:40:01.117 ‐‐> 00:40:04.317really big determinant of student success is your peer group.

00:40:04.317 ‐‐> 00:40:07.457Do you have a group of friends that you can work with that you can talk?

00:40:07.457 ‐‐> 00:40:10.487to that you can support with so reaching out and making?

00:40:10.487 ‐‐> 00:40:13.717those connections really helps you if you just sit by yourself.

00:40:13.717 ‐‐> 00:40:17.057at home all alone, you're not going to be nearly as motivated.

00:40:17.057 ‐‐> 00:40:19.867or involved. Great? Did you want to add to those kind of things?

00:40:19.917 ‐‐> 00:40:22.537Program since I program for hours.

00:40:23.157 ‐‐> 00:40:26.287I just got scared by your customer. You talked about how?

00:40:26.287 ‐‐> 00:40:29.317you shouldn't sit at home by yourself all alone.

00:40:29.317 ‐‐> 00:40:32.787but that's kind of what everybody is doing this semester. So how do you get around that?

00:40:32.787 ‐‐> 00:40:32.787

00:40:34.677 ‐‐> 00:40:37.707So far what they've done?

00:40:37.707 ‐‐> 00:40:40.767to try and avoid your isolation that you're.

00:40:40.767 ‐‐> 00:40:43.907going to have is. There's the Griffins Nest. Have you guys heard of this?

00:40:43.907 ‐‐> 00:40:46.987yet? Where you're 45 students?

00:40:46.987 ‐‐> 00:40:49.997paired up with the more senior student? So that's kind of.

00:40:49.997 ‐‐> 00:40:53.307

going to be like your social network. Or you can meet people.

00:40:53.307 ‐‐> 00:40:56.727in classes if you have the online chats in the classroom.

00:40:56.727 ‐‐> 00:40:59.767so you can meet them there and also.

00:40:59.767 ‐‐> 00:41:01.427I think in the.

00:41:02.577 ‐‐> 00:41:05.677What is it called? The quad is another website where.

00:41:05.677 ‐‐> 00:41:08.897you can go and meet students an then as.

00:41:08.897 ‐‐> 00:41:12.677already mentioned, there's like discord and some other websites outside.

00:41:12.677 ‐‐> 00:41:15.777So you're going to be needing people virtually, but I would start.

00:41:15.777 ‐‐> 00:41:18.087off with the grounds nest, 'cause you're paired by your program.

00:41:19.977 ‐‐> 00:41:23.667Why are some of my classes still TVA? How my supposed?

00:41:23.667 ‐‐> 00:41:25.507to plan when it's all up in the air?

00:41:27.697 ‐‐> 00:41:30.527Their TBA because.

00:41:31.237 ‐‐> 00:41:33.237There online, right?

00:41:34.027 ‐‐> 00:41:37.247Isn't it? So they're all going to be released when classes start?

00:41:37.247 ‐‐> 00:41:37.247

00:41:37.927 ‐‐> 00:41:40.937But TV any maybe refering if you're on the web.

00:41:40.937 ‐‐> 00:41:43.057advisor and it says location.

00:41:44.977 ‐‐> 00:41:49.027If the location is TBA, that means it's virtual, so.

00:41:49.027 ‐‐> 00:41:52.227for the courses that I've seen, so they want to be honest.

00:41:52.227 ‐‐> 00:41:54.607they live with the other switch switch OK?

00:41:56.147 ‐‐> 00:41:56.447Talking.

00:41:59.367 ‐‐> 00:42:02.417So I'll send you that. I live high.

00:42:02.417 ‐‐> 00:42:05.837so the most of the courses I've seen that TBA their distance.

00:42:05.837 ‐‐> 00:42:09.077add. So when you check the section, the section.

00:42:09.077 ‐‐> 00:42:12.297bsolete options for this fall are asynchronous.

00:42:12.297 ‐‐> 00:42:15.347synchronous or distance add DE.

00:42:15.347 ‐‐> 00:42:18.497the distance add courses are courses that are always.

00:42:18.497 ‐‐> 00:42:21.557scheduled to be on line, so even if we were fully face to face this.

00:42:21.557 ‐‐> 00:42:25.317fall and we were having this discussion in Mcnaughton.

00:42:25.317 ‐‐> 00:42:28.327105 like we usually do the classes.

00:42:28.327 ‐‐> 00:42:29.517sses would still be online.

00:42:29.577 ‐‐> 00:42:33.117Those are designed to be on line classes, so.

00:42:33.117 ‐‐> 00:42:36.39790% of the time the TBA classes are online.

00:42:36.397 ‐‐> 00:42:39.947they will never have scheduled lecture meetings or videos.

00:42:39.947 ‐‐> 00:42:42.977or any kind of live interaction like that would.

00:42:42.977 ‐‐> 00:42:46.127mostly be interacting with the professor and tas in any other.

00:42:46.127 ‐‐> 00:42:49.427students to discussion boards and however they have the core set up so.

00:42:49.427 ‐‐> 00:42:52.657that's why it's TB. It likely will not have anything scheduled.

00:42:52.657 ‐‐> 00:42:55.697I saw a couple elective courses.

00:42:55.697 ‐‐> 00:42:58.797like economics. I think some had TBA and I'm.

00:42:58.797 ‐‐> 00:43:01.867not sure what to make of that either. If you're really concerned about it and your.

00:43:01.867 ‐‐> 00:43:04.117courses not be so, figure courses.

00:43:05.067 ‐‐> 00:43:08.137Synchronous and it still TBA and you're concerned about it.

00:43:08.137 ‐‐> 00:43:11.657because you have work schedule and everything else that you have to work around maybe.

00:43:11.657 ‐‐> 00:43:14.817send a quick email to the professor with your student number in the course and everything.

00:43:14.817 ‐‐> 00:43:17.897else and just ask what TDA means but again.

00:43:17.897 ‐‐> 00:43:21.33790% of the time they will be distance Ed courses.

00:43:21.337 ‐‐> 00:43:24.437that will never have scheduled meetings and the other ones.

00:43:24.437 ‐‐> 00:43:27.607I'm not sure what they're planning but you could ask them if you'd like.

00:43:27.607 ‐‐> 00:43:29.697by ask them. I mean ask the Professor.

00:43:31.907 ‐‐> 00:43:35.237Here's a question that I don't think we answered. It can quell still.

00:43:35.237 ‐‐> 00:43:38.147help me get a job opportunities even if I'm not in Cola.

00:43:38.907 ‐‐> 00:43:42.517Yes, so at the Coop Office is.

00:43:42.517 ‐‐> 00:43:45.757not just the Coop Office. It's Coop and career services.

00:43:45.757 ‐‐> 00:43:48.897and Co op incurs services. Has the Coop side where.

00:43:48.897 ‐‐> 00:43:51.937

Co op students have the Coop coordinators and koab jobs that they can.

00:43:51.937 ‐‐> 00:43:55.117apply to. But the other part is career services.

00:43:55.117 ‐‐> 00:43:58.297so career services data support you now and.

00:43:58.297 ‐‐> 00:44:02.677even passed graduation with resume writing job.

00:44:02.677 ‐‐> 00:44:06.097application skills, cover letter, interview skills, all kinds of stuff.

00:44:06.097 ‐‐> 00:44:07.737and we have a dedicated.

00:44:08.937 ‐‐> 00:44:12.017Sort of Co op. Not a cooperative, indicated karere.

00:44:12.017 ‐‐> 00:44:15.317ounselor for the college, the.

00:44:15.317 ‐‐> 00:44:18.847College of Physical Engineering Sciences who works with.

00:44:18.847 ‐‐> 00:44:22.067computing students one on one, so you'd be able to schedule an appointment with.

00:44:22.067 ‐‐> 00:44:25.107her and you can have a one on one appointment on how.

00:44:25.107 ‐‐> 00:44:28.267to apply for jobs. Went to apply for jobs. Where to apply for jobs that they would give.

00:44:28.267 ‐‐> 00:44:31.317you similar support as a co op coordinator who.

00:44:31.317 ‐‐> 00:44:34.367is not as much not as indepth. But yeah for sure.

00:44:34.367 ‐‐> 00:44:36.637you'll be able to get some support with.

00:44:37.227 ‐‐> 00:44:38.347Finding work.

00:44:40.147 ‐‐> 00:44:43.807Changing topics, do you have to declare an area of application?

00:44:43.807 ‐‐> 00:44:46.857a minor, or do you just like complete the four required quotas?

00:44:47.577 ‐‐> 00:44:50.927K will cover this in more detail that made the majors.

00:44:50.927 ‐‐> 00:44:54.177tomorrow, so come to meet the majors or watch the video recording later.

00:44:54.177 ‐‐> 00:44:57.297on, but the minimum requirement for batch or computing.

00:44:57.297 ‐‐> 00:45:00.737honors degree is the area of application.

00:45:00.737 ‐‐> 00:45:03.797which is 4 credits, so that's eight courses outside.

00:45:03.797 ‐‐> 00:45:06.817so these are electives not NCI S

00:45:06.817 ‐‐> 00:45:10.147not NCI. S two of them have to be 3000 level or higher.

00:45:10.147 ‐‐> 00:45:13.277so you're looking to take courses in music history.

00:45:13.277 ‐‐> 00:45:16.437geography, math, whatever interests.

00:45:16.437 ‐‐> 00:45:19.457you, and it's flexible enough that you can combine subjects.

00:45:19.457 ‐‐> 00:45:22.387So for example, their application could be math and music.

00:45:22.547 ‐‐> 00:45:25.747So you could take for music courses for math courses.

00:45:25.747 ‐‐> 00:45:28.787and as long as you have two of them at the third year level, that's.

00:45:28.787 ‐‐> 00:45:32.167enough for an area of application. There's also minors.

00:45:32.167 ‐‐> 00:45:35.627so miners would be a set of eight courses. You take 10 courses and.

00:45:35.627 ‐‐> 00:45:38.977then with attend courses you get a minor.

00:45:38.977 ‐‐> 00:45:38.977

00:45:40.397 ‐‐> 00:45:43.497Go on your transcript when you graduate, so that minor would be better.

00:45:43.497 ‐‐> 00:45:46.657if you can find something that you want to focus on, for example.

00:45:46.657 ‐‐> 00:45:49.997math. But if you want more flexibility than.

00:45:49.997 ‐‐> 00:45:51.357to the area of application.

00:45:52.657 ‐‐> 00:45:55.777Here's here's one that I think a lot of people are secretly.

00:45:55.777 ‐‐> 00:45:58.917feeling. I have never done a.

00:45:58.917 ‐‐> 00:46:01.187computer science course in school before.

00:46:01.807 ‐‐> 00:46:03.307Will I be fine?

00:46:05.597 ‐‐> 00:46:08.617So I hope so. It's good, so that's a good question, so don't be.

00:46:08.617 ‐‐> 00:46:09.617nervous about it.

00:46:10.977 ‐‐> 00:46:14.087For sure, CIS 1300 is going to be.

00:46:14.087 ‐‐> 00:46:17.347somewhat intense programming course, especially near the end.

00:46:17.347 ‐‐> 00:46:20.737but it does assume that you have never programmed before, so.

00:46:20.737 ‐‐> 00:46:24.367if you've never done a computer science course, if you've never programmed before.

00:46:24.367 ‐‐> 00:46:27.807it's OK, but you will want to be.

00:46:27.807 ‐‐> 00:46:30.987paying attention. You want to hit the ground running early on in the course.

00:46:30.987 ‐‐> 00:46:34.187but the course will start from the basics.

00:46:34.187 ‐‐> 00:46:37.387and help you to work from there. So if you've never programmed.

00:46:37.387 ‐‐> 00:46:40.657before, that's OK, don't worry about it. Lots of students.

00:46:40.657 ‐‐> 00:46:41.617I'd say.

00:46:41.867 ‐‐> 00:46:45.077

3040% of the first year class has not program.

00:46:45.077 ‐‐> 00:46:48.107ed before. Taking the computer science class before, so that's OK, don't.

00:46:48.107 ‐‐> 00:46:51.137worry about it, but do take the course seriously and.

00:46:51.137 ‐‐> 00:46:51.897it should be fine.

00:46:52.517 ‐‐> 00:46:55.967That's right, what do you do? Show up to lecture, go to.

00:46:55.967 ‐‐> 00:46:59.197labs. Do your homework. You will be fine.

00:46:59.197 ‐‐> 00:47:02.367And if there's a whole team of us here to support.

00:47:02.367 ‐‐> 00:47:04.057you, right? So many people to help you.

00:47:05.797 ‐‐> 00:47:09.027There's a question about pages computer science during.

00:47:09.027 ‐‐> 00:47:12.107coop. It will depend. It will depend.

00:47:12.107 ‐‐> 00:47:15.267on your job experience. If you already have job experience now or not.

00:47:15.267 ‐‐> 00:47:18.567will depend on the job you get, let's say.

00:47:18.567 ‐‐> 00:47:22.087around bonding. There are some jobs that would be minimum wage.

00:47:22.087 ‐‐> 00:47:25.187that does happen, so around 1516 eighteen dollars an.

00:47:25.187 ‐‐> 00:47:25.727ur.

00:47:26.937 ‐‐> 00:47:30.067Mostly it's about 20s, low 20s and then once.

00:47:30.067 ‐‐> 00:47:33.647you get really experienced then you're going out for your last co op work terms.

00:47:33.647 ‐‐> 00:47:36.847They could be super high, so thirty 4050.

00:47:36.847 ‐‐> 00:47:36.847

00:47:39.277 ‐‐> 00:47:42.397When should I apply for a minor if I'm going to do 1?

00:47:42.397 ‐‐> 00:47:42.397

00:47:43.947 ‐‐> 00:47:47.097As soon as which minor you want, you're welcome to apply send.

00:47:47.097 ‐‐> 00:47:50.627April and iron and email. It will help you fill out the form, and you can declare the minor.

00:47:51.867 ‐‐> 00:47:54.927Right, what will the GPA system?

00:47:54.927 ‐‐> 00:47:58.127for granted credit? Not sure what that was talking about.

00:47:58.127 ‐‐> 00:47:58.127

00:47:59.037 ‐‐> 00:48:00.247Sorry where is.

00:48:02.297 ‐‐> 00:48:05.597You're the bomb. What will what will be?

00:48:05.597 ‐‐> 00:48:08.817the GPA system for granted credits?

00:48:08.817 ‐‐> 00:48:08.817

00:48:10.097 ‐‐> 00:48:13.357So not sure what the question is, but the GPA Guelph is.

00:48:13.357 ‐‐> 00:48:16.647fixed it is so it's your computer grade point average.

00:48:16.647 ‐‐> 00:48:20.007It's a decimal number so we don't have like 4.

00:48:20.007 ‐‐> 00:48:23.717point or stored at scale. The GPA go off will be.

00:48:23.717 ‐‐> 00:48:23.717

00:48:24.497 ‐‐> 00:48:27.667And #70.233.

00:48:27.667 ‐‐> 00:48:30.737an it takes account all of your courses.

00:48:30.737 ‐‐> 00:48:33.957that you've taken the University of Guelph and it's a weighted average because.

00:48:33.957 ‐‐> 00:48:37.097some courses are .5 somewhere .75.

00:48:37.097 ‐‐> 00:48:40.317somewhere one point credits so it's a weighted average.

00:48:40.317 ‐‐> 00:48:43.337based on how many credits you've completed and what your grades are in it.

00:48:43.337 ‐‐> 00:48:43.337

00:48:45.697 ‐‐> 00:48:49.327Here's one I get a lot in the emails, what?

00:48:49.327 ‐‐> 00:48:52.377are the preferred electives that we can take?

00:48:53.457 ‐‐> 00:48:57.097There are no preferred electric with the preferred electors.

00:48:57.097 ‐‐> 00:49:00.267These would be for your minor or area of application that.

00:49:00.267 ‐‐> 00:49:03.387completely up to you, take things that you're interested in taking things that you will.

00:49:03.387 ‐‐> 00:49:06.837do well in things that you like so.

00:49:06.837 ‐‐> 00:49:10.127t take something just because you think it'll be easy. I've seen students.

00:49:10.127 ‐‐> 00:49:13.247take courses to go into courses because they were like.

00:49:13.247 ‐‐> 00:49:16.487this is super easy course. No problem, I'll get.

00:49:16.487 ‐‐> 00:49:19.597a B plus with Mac no work and it'll be fine and then they.

00:49:19.597 ‐‐> 00:49:22.717get bored and then they forgot about the course and they failed the course.

00:49:22.717 ‐‐> 00:49:22.717

00:49:23.667 ‐‐> 00:49:26.797So don't do that for your electress. Pick courses that you're.

00:49:26.797 ‐‐> 00:49:27.647

interested in.

00:49:29.027 ‐‐> 00:49:32.107Your Cork scales your computer. Science skills will be.

00:49:32.107 ‐‐> 00:49:35.317taught in the CIS courses, so I don't think like OK. How will this?

00:49:35.317 ‐‐> 00:49:38.337help me with computer science? It probably won't help you.

00:49:38.337 ‐‐> 00:49:41.807with computer science, but will give you balance in your life.

00:49:41.807 ‐‐> 00:49:44.827so you'll be spending a lot of time in computer science will be spending.

00:49:44.827 ‐‐> 00:49:48.447a lot of time programming or studying or doing discrete math.

00:49:48.447 ‐‐> 00:49:48.447

00:49:49.527 ‐‐> 00:49:52.587electors are there to give you a balance and give you a bit of a break

00:49:52.587 ‐‐> 00:49:55.697from those things, and you could be doing music you.

00:49:55.697 ‐‐> 00:49:59.037could be doing writing in English or history. You could be doing math you.

00:49:59.037 ‐‐> 00:50:02.197could be doing business. You could be designing a business, plans it.

00:50:02.197 ‐‐> 00:50:05.337all depends on what you're interested in. So when you're picking electives, try to.

00:50:05.337 ‐‐> 00:50:08.347pick things that look interesting and you're paying.

00:50:08.347 ‐‐> 00:50:10.877for the cores. So hopefully something that you want to learn about.

00:50:11.817 ‐‐> 00:50:14.897A number of students are asking this. Where will the recorded?

00:50:14.897 ‐‐> 00:50:18.717ession be posted so all these answers this this goal

00:50:18.717 ‐‐> 00:50:22.537at were pouring out find it after the fact.

00:50:22.537 ‐‐> 00:50:22.537

00:50:23.677 ‐‐> 00:50:26.987Bugs, no, I would expect somewhere on the orientation.

00:50:26.987 ‐‐> 00:50:30.347website, but we don't know specifically where we.

00:50:30.347 ‐‐> 00:50:33.487get a link. I'll put it again for sure page, the.

00:50:33.487 ‐‐> 00:50:37.067Sox program counseling webpage. That's how Greg and I communicate.

00:50:37.067 ‐‐> 00:50:40.107to you all is on that page. So if we find it, we'll.

00:50:40.107 ‐‐> 00:50:42.627put it there. But yes, it is being recorded for sure.

00:50:44.097 ‐‐> 00:50:45.167

00:50:47.577 ‐‐> 00:50:50.627What else for that student about the signal has to?

00:50:50.627 ‐‐> 00:50:53.737ask again about the orientation box?

00:50:53.737 ‐‐> 00:50:53.737

00:50:55.267 ‐‐> 00:50:57.197Email April and I will try to find out.

00:51:00.027 ‐‐> 00:51:03.117Here's here's what.

00:51:03.117 ‐‐> 00:51:06.197I get in emails a lot too. When signing up for electives.

00:51:06.197 ‐‐> 00:51:09.637I notice that some of the classes are closed. Does that mean that the class is?

00:51:09.637 ‐‐> 00:51:11.547full or just unavailable?

00:51:13.667 ‐‐> 00:51:16.867Sorry, ask that again when signing.

00:51:16.867 ‐‐> 00:51:19.917up for my electives, I notice that some of.

00:51:19.917 ‐‐> 00:51:22.927the classes were closed. Does that mean it's full or?

00:51:22.927 ‐‐> 00:51:24.247just is not available?

00:51:25.267 ‐‐> 00:51:28.837It could be both. Sorry that our computer science, yeah you.

00:51:28.837 ‐‐> 00:51:28.837

00:51:30.337 ‐‐> 00:51:33.707Either I think if it's red.

00:51:33.707 ‐‐> 00:51:37.107so the course is red with zero spots available, that means it's full.

00:51:37.107 ‐‐> 00:51:40.307and the course is not red and has spots available.

00:51:40.307 ‐‐> 00:51:43.387but you try to add it will probably give you an error, so do read.

00:51:43.387 ‐‐> 00:51:46.427that error. There will tell you why you can't add the course there would be.

00:51:46.427 ‐‐> 00:51:49.927some courses that are restricted to specific students so.

00:51:49.927 ‐‐> 00:51:53.017for example, some engineering courses most engineering courses cannot.

00:51:53.017 ‐‐> 00:51:56.387be only be taken by the engineers in that major so.

00:51:56.387 ‐‐> 00:51:59.487somebody else try to try to take it. Even if there is space table and be able.

00:51:59.487 ‐‐> 00:52:02.007to add. But web advisor will tell you that.

00:52:02.147 ‐‐> 00:52:05.167In the air, and if you think it's a course that you should be.

00:52:05.167 ‐‐> 00:52:08.197able to take, or you really, really want to take that course.

00:52:08.197 ‐‐> 00:52:08.197

00:52:09.177 ‐‐> 00:52:12.537If you're not sure, ask April me and will check.

00:52:12.537 ‐‐> 00:52:12.537

00:52:16.517 ‐‐> 00:52:19.747

Alright, someone asked again where that socks link.

00:52:19.747 ‐‐> 00:52:21.827is, so I'm just putting that baby.

00:52:23.327 ‐‐> 00:52:26.747Here's the Sox program counseling page. It's in the Q&A.

00:52:26.747 ‐‐> 00:52:26.747

00:52:28.937 ‐‐> 00:52:33.257So that's where I'm going to be posting the updates on our program counseling page.

00:52:33.257 ‐‐> 00:52:33.257

00:52:33.837 ‐‐> 00:52:36.877An all those links that you're asking for, and it, and that's how.

00:52:36.877 ‐‐> 00:52:40.107we're going to communicate with you through this link here as.

00:52:40.107 ‐‐> 00:52:43.487usual, if your doctor email us, it takes us 2 seconds.

00:52:43.487 ‐‐> 00:52:46.717to send you a link like if you can find the link, just email.

00:52:46.717 ‐‐> 00:52:50.447us 2 seconds. Easy job done and you.

00:52:50.447 ‐‐> 00:52:53.727what is already your first quiz where do

00:52:53.727 ‐‐> 00:52:56.887Where do you email? Do you email me personally?

00:52:56.887 ‐‐> 00:52:56.887

00:52:58.787 ‐‐> 00:52:59.377Emails.

00:53:02.657 ‐‐> 00:53:03.047Yeah.

00:53:06.097 ‐‐> 00:53:07.857Alright, back to the discussion.

00:53:09.337 ‐‐> 00:53:13.657I think we've covered most of the questions.

00:53:13.657 ‐‐> 00:53:13.657

00:53:14.707 ‐‐> 00:53:16.777Follow UPS or go ahead.

00:53:18.357 ‐‐> 00:53:21.767The GPA if you're granted credits as.

00:53:21.767 ‐‐> 00:53:24.667so I say I was granted a math calculus credit.

00:53:26.597 ‐‐> 00:53:29.867So I don't have to do calculus and what's my grade going to be in that? That's a good.

00:53:29.867 ‐‐> 00:53:33.067question, so you go out. GPA will be based.

00:53:33.067 ‐‐> 00:53:36.387on your golf courses only, so if you get transfer.

00:53:36.387 ‐‐> 00:53:39.407credits from a levels or high.

00:53:39.407 ‐‐> 00:53:42.637school, or if you take courses at different university or.

00:53:42.637 ‐‐> 00:53:45.857transfer student or anywhere, so if you get transfer credits.

00:53:45.857 ‐‐> 00:53:49.307the grades don't transfer so that does not impact your.

00:53:49.307 ‐‐> 00:53:52.347GPA in any way. Your golf GPA.

00:53:52.347 ‐‐> 00:53:55.307and your CIS average all those things are based.

00:53:55.367 ‐‐> 00:53:58.617Only on the courses you completed, the University of Guelph, The.

00:53:58.617 ‐‐> 00:54:00.497grades that I've transferred between universities.

00:54:01.237 ‐‐> 00:54:02.657Obviously High School University.

00:54:04.747 ‐‐> 00:54:08.237Yeah, there was a second question that we didn't reply, but.

00:54:08.237 ‐‐> 00:54:11.677just 'cause there's like it seems like things are flying around. It's like what?

00:54:11.677 ‐‐> 00:54:13.497is this Angel of death thing?

00:54:16.307 ‐‐> 00:54:19.407Are they going to be struck down by the angel of death when?

00:54:19.407 ‐‐> 00:54:22.427they're not looking? I don't even like.

00:54:22.427 ‐‐> 00:54:25.957the term, it's a second year course.

00:54:25.957 ‐‐> 00:54:29.347that senior students like this care.

00:54:29.347 ‐‐> 00:54:32.967first year students about second, second goal story almost.

00:54:32.967 ‐‐> 00:54:36.177like it's just like the senior students take.

00:54:36.177 ‐‐> 00:54:39.787some of them. I don't know. Try to scare.

00:54:39.787 ‐‐> 00:54:42.967first year students with this course. CIS 27.

00:54:42.967 ‐‐> 00:54:46.3270 is a great course. You would take it in semester 4.

00:54:46.327 ‐‐> 00:54:46.327

00:54:46.687 ‐‐> 00:54:49.727Before you take it, you will take C at 1300 programming.

00:54:49.727 ‐‐> 00:54:52.767so you'll cover C programming and good level you'll.

00:54:52.767 ‐‐> 00:54:55.967take CIS 2500 Intermediate C programming so.

00:54:55.967 ‐‐> 00:54:59.037you're going to be doing memory allocation. An pretty advanced.

00:54:59.037 ‐‐> 00:55:02.417C programming by that point. Then you'll take object Orient programming.

00:55:02.417 ‐‐> 00:55:05.727likely in Java data structures again and see.

00:55:05.727 ‐‐> 00:55:05.727

00:55:07.067 ‐‐> 00:55:10.107And then you'll take 2750 and it'll be really well prepared for it.

00:55:10.107 ‐‐> 00:55:13.277

because you have lots of programming experience. But even if you have no programming space.

00:55:13.277 ‐‐> 00:55:16.447at all right now, by the time you get to 2750 you have.

00:55:16.447 ‐‐> 00:55:20.257lots of programming experience and 2750 is the cores.

00:55:20.257 ‐‐> 00:55:23.467forces you to use all your knowledge that you've learned in.

00:55:23.467 ‐‐> 00:55:26.867your previous courses and write really.

00:55:26.867 ‐‐> 00:55:29.917y nice big assignments where you can write a big assignment and.

00:55:29.917 ‐‐> 00:55:33.747they might have second big assignment and then integrate the two assignments.

00:55:33.747 ‐‐> 00:55:37.107so that they work together so you have to learn to write.

00:55:38.127 ‐‐> 00:55:41.307Programming and code to the specification.

00:55:41.307 ‐‐> 00:55:44.537so that when you write the two things to specification, you can write A.

00:55:44.537 ‐‐> 00:55:47.567link between them and the two pieces of code can integrate.

00:55:47.567 ‐‐> 00:55:50.857and talk to each other. So some students who have struggled.

00:55:50.857 ‐‐> 00:55:53.917up until then and barely sort of past let's.

00:55:53.917 ‐‐> 00:55:56.977say 2500 data structures or some other cores, and they're really struggling.

00:55:56.977 ‐‐> 00:56:00.047with programming 'cause they missed the key concept they will.

00:56:00.047 ‐‐> 00:56:03.397struggle in that course because the assignments are really big. There's not.

00:56:03.397 ‐‐> 00:56:06.597lots of time to sort of debug things and go back the 1st.

00:56:06.597 ‐‐> 00:56:07.887try to figure things out.

00:56:08.877 ‐‐> 00:56:12.767But as long as you're reasonably confident and comfortable in programming.

00:56:12.767 ‐‐> 00:56:16.087that courses is fine. It's a great course like it's a course that.

00:56:16.087 ‐‐> 00:56:16.497sort of.

00:56:17.257 ‐‐> 00:56:20.267Reinforces all the scales and all the knowledge that you've.

00:56:20.267 ‐‐> 00:56:21.167learned up until then.

00:56:21.917 ‐‐> 00:56:25.197An I'm just going to add something about that, greg.

00:56:25.197 ‐‐> 00:56:28.377Gotta go live and bumping you out and come.

00:56:28.377 ‐‐> 00:56:31.707and live pay. So the idea here.

00:56:31.707 ‐‐> 00:56:35.317not to disparage high school, but oftentimes.

00:56:35.317 ‐‐> 00:56:39.427in high school the way people are tested is it's regurgitation.

00:56:39.427 ‐‐> 00:56:42.677right? They tell you a fact on the test you spit.

00:56:42.677 ‐‐> 00:56:45.687it out back, and that's how you get through high school. You get really good.

00:56:45.687 ‐‐> 00:56:48.907ades in there what is new about 27

00:56:48.907 ‐‐> 00:56:52.0572750 is what Greg said. It's that idea of.

00:56:52.057 ‐‐> 00:56:52.057

00:56:52.107 ‐‐> 00:56:55.157Integrating knowledge and applying it so.

00:56:55.157 ‐‐> 00:56:58.227that's the next level in learning, and that's why a lot of.

00:56:58.227 ‐‐> 00:57:01.027people find it challenging 'cause they've never done.

00:57:01.637 ‐‐> 00:57:04.647Integrating things together and applying.

00:57:04.647 ‐‐> 00:57:07.807it to real life so high school is the 1st.

00:57:07.807 ‐‐> 00:57:10.847t level of learning and 2750 takes you.

00:57:10.847 ‐‐> 00:57:13.867to the next level, so it's a little harder.

00:57:13.867 ‐‐> 00:57:16.887you haven't done it before, so it takes some practice, but.

00:57:16.887 ‐‐> 00:57:19.947it, that's what the whole goal of.

00:57:19.947 ‐‐> 00:57:23.147e goal of university is is to get you into that

00:57:23.147 ‐‐> 00:57:26.327Thinking which is application and.

00:57:26.327 ‐‐> 00:57:29.647synthesis. OK, so it may be hard.

00:57:29.647 ‐‐> 00:57:32.987but that is gold and anything that's hard and you struggle.

00:57:32.987 ‐‐> 00:57:33.597with like.

00:57:33.647 ‐‐> 00:57:36.797If it's super easy, it's usually not worth that much right so?

00:57:36.797 ‐‐> 00:57:39.857you have to work for it and then you'll get it. That's what that's.

00:57:39.857 ‐‐> 00:57:41.857like. Why it is such a great course.

00:57:42.887 ‐‐> 00:57:43.757As I have said.

00:57:46.597 ‐‐> 00:57:49.297Can I send myself back live and then I'll?

00:57:50.457 ‐‐> 00:57:53.817Wrap it up. I guess we can hang out for a little bit.

00:57:53.817 ‐‐> 00:57:56.917so going back to 2750 sulcus live.

00:57:56.917 ‐‐> 00:57:59.937stream did its projects building on.

00:57:59.937 ‐‐> 00:58:02.957

each other. So while the messes up you have to fix it before the next part.

00:58:02.957 ‐‐> 00:58:06.017Yes, that's true. So that is that's part of why the course is.

00:58:06.017 ‐‐> 00:58:09.057hard, because the projects are bigger than what students have seen.

00:58:09.057 ‐‐> 00:58:12.107before and the projects build on each other, so usually.

00:58:12.107 ‐‐> 00:58:15.687not usually in your intro courses like CS 1300.

00:58:15.687 ‐‐> 00:58:18.767it might be depending on how the professor does it, but.

00:58:18.767 ‐‐> 00:58:21.977in the past it's been possible to get 0 on an assignment.

00:58:21.977 ‐‐> 00:58:21.977

00:58:22.537 ‐‐> 00:58:25.607Forget about it. We wanted the sin second assignment.

00:58:25.607 ‐‐> 00:58:28.717Second assignment is completely different you've caught up.

00:58:28.717 ‐‐> 00:58:32.517You understand things. Now things make sense or better programming.

00:58:32.517 ‐‐> 00:58:35.617you do the second assignment as you get perfect on it and you do.

00:58:35.617 ‐‐> 00:58:36.637while going forward.

00:58:37.217 ‐‐> 00:58:40.257So that works out, but in CIS 2750 you.

00:58:40.257 ‐‐> 00:58:43.537have to do assignment one and then you get assignment to an assignment.

00:58:43.537 ‐‐> 00:58:46.7872 builds on top of 1 in assignment, 3 builds on top of assignment.

00:58:46.787 ‐‐> 00:58:49.817to an assignment for builds on top of assignment three. So by the.

00:58:49.817 ‐‐> 00:58:53.077end of the course you have this giant piece of really cool code.

00:58:53.077 ‐‐> 00:58:54.087that does lots of things.

00:58:54.717 ‐‐> 00:58:57.767But if you couldn't do assignment one, you can't do anything else.

00:58:57.767 ‐‐> 00:59:01.507either, and so that course catches up to you and.

00:59:01.507 ‐‐> 00:59:05.407so let's go back to what Greg talked about in his presentation.

00:59:05.407 ‐‐> 00:59:08.427What was one of the key themes and Greg presentation where?

00:59:08.427 ‐‐> 00:59:11.847you guys listening one of the key things was?

00:59:11.847 ‐‐> 00:59:15.087asked for help early on? I gotta send you.

00:59:19.757 ‐‐> 00:59:22.767So again, review, I've already told you the answer, but.

00:59:22.767 ‐‐> 00:59:26.207what was the key theme in Greg's presentation ask for?

00:59:26.207 ‐‐> 00:59:29.427help early on OK in CIS 27

00:59:29.427 ‐‐> 00:59:32.767750 if you're having trouble with assignment one, you need to.

00:59:32.767 ‐‐> 00:59:35.887go and get help and figure that out before all those.

00:59:35.887 ‐‐> 00:59:39.267other things get piled on. OK, so again, no.

00:59:39.267 ‐‐> 00:59:42.287shame in getting help. Do it early. It's kind of like.

00:59:42.287 ‐‐> 00:59:45.617I don't know if any of you have migraines, but if you have a migraine treat.

00:59:45.617 ‐‐> 00:59:47.267it fast. Treat it hard.

00:59:47.557 ‐‐> 00:59:51.017First sign of trouble, and that's how you beat it, OK?

00:59:51.017 ‐‐> 00:59:51.017

00:59:58.487 ‐‐> 01:00:00.307I don't really see anything.

01:00:01.817 ‐‐> 01:00:03.347So.

01:00:05.587 ‐‐> 01:00:06.567

01:00:08.157 ‐‐> 01:00:11.367I don't know if you want this one. If you want me to do it, what's the significant?

01:00:11.367 ‐‐> 01:00:14.447erence in studying software engineering versus computer?

01:00:14.447 ‐‐> 01:00:17.767science? I think I'll start it and then you'll just.

01:00:17.767 ‐‐> 01:00:21.587finish it off a masterpiece. OK, so.

01:00:21.587 ‐‐> 01:00:24.787t's the difference between software?

01:00:24.787 ‐‐> 01:00:28.147engineering and computer science? The big difference in those programs.

01:00:28.147 ‐‐> 01:00:31.267is I would say that software engineering is a lot more social.

01:00:31.267 ‐‐> 01:00:34.427in that you're going to do more group work teamwork.

01:00:34.427 ‐‐> 01:00:37.827figuring out how to work with people and group.

01:00:37.827 ‐‐> 01:00:40.557projects. Whereas in Computer Science it's more.

01:00:40.927 ‐‐> 01:00:44.197Alone, an more theory, I would say.

01:00:44.197 ‐‐> 01:00:47.377and Greg. Do you want to go into the details of the differences?

01:00:47.377 ‐‐> 01:00:48.427between the projects there?

01:00:50.787 ‐‐> 01:00:53.807I'll send you back now I'm going live so I.

01:00:53.807 ‐‐> 01:00:56.827don't it keeps it keeps changing.

01:00:56.827 ‐‐> 01:01:00.437but yeah, the big difference is academically our.

01:01:00.437 ‐‐> 01:01:03.597

software engineering has those five software design courses.

01:01:03.597 ‐‐> 01:01:06.637where students are working as a team to create.

01:01:06.637 ‐‐> 01:01:09.877some kind of a solution. Whether that's just a software.

01:01:09.877 ‐‐> 01:01:13.337so programming solution, it could be a design document. It could be a poster.

01:01:13.337 ‐‐> 01:01:16.697it could be whatever the class is working on, but you're working on a solution.

01:01:16.697 ‐‐> 01:01:19.777as a team, so you're learning how to manage the process of problem.

01:01:19.777 ‐‐> 01:01:20.967solving as a team.

01:01:21.057 ‐‐> 01:01:24.127In that starts in semester one and you do that all the way through the.

01:01:24.127 ‐‐> 01:01:27.757end. Software design 12345 software.

01:01:27.757 ‐‐> 01:01:30.807engineering has more required CIS.

01:01:30.807 ‐‐> 01:01:34.507courses, so the 'cause of the software design courses.

01:01:34.507 ‐‐> 01:01:37.767So the schedule is much less flexible than in computer.

01:01:37.767 ‐‐> 01:01:40.827science and you're spending lots of time working in.

01:01:40.827 ‐‐> 01:01:43.977teams for computer science.

01:01:43.977 ‐‐> 01:01:47.167students started mostly by working by themselves, so programming.

01:01:47.167 ‐‐> 01:01:48.077by themselves.

01:01:50.047 ‐‐> 01:01:53.107Math by themselves, they still get the teamwork, but.

01:01:53.107 ‐‐> 01:01:56.377they get the teamwork in 3rd year, same as everybody with the CS 30.

01:01:56.377 ‐‐> 01:01:59.457C S 3760 where you.

01:01:59.457 ‐‐> 01:02:02.797do the teamwork based big project development.

01:02:02.797 ‐‐> 01:02:05.867But you're not doing it all the time and computer science.

01:02:05.867 ‐‐> 01:02:09.377students have far more flexibility, so they have more CIS electives.

01:02:09.377 ‐‐> 01:02:12.387they can take, and they can also switch things around a little bit.

01:02:12.387 ‐‐> 01:02:13.507if they have to.

01:02:14.367 ‐‐> 01:02:17.557Because they have less required courses. So by the time.

01:02:17.557 ‐‐> 01:02:20.627their third year computer science student started mostly choosing their.

01:02:20.627 ‐‐> 01:02:24.207own electives, computer networks, or artificial intelligence.

01:02:24.207 ‐‐> 01:02:27.307e or graphics or what they're interested in and

01:02:27.307 ‐‐> 01:02:31.017hey have more of those choices. Where software engineering Zach students.

01:02:31.017 ‐‐> 01:02:34.487have more required courses so they still get a couple electives.

01:02:34.487 ‐‐> 01:02:35.347but not as many.

01:02:36.777 ‐‐> 01:02:39.787I just jump in there and add 'cause I'm plugging.

01:02:39.787 ‐‐> 01:02:43.067the whole academic integrity thing where you live.

01:02:43.067 ‐‐> 01:02:43.067

01:02:45.507 ‐‐> 01:02:47.037Slide here I go.

01:02:48.047 ‐‐> 01:02:51.137There OK, I'm so when.

01:02:51.137 ‐‐> 01:02:54.437when you're doing the teamwork in software engineering, this.

01:02:54.437 ‐‐> 01:02:57.817is where academic integrity issues often come up right? Because?

01:02:57.817 ‐‐> 01:03:00.997if your group working together and then two.

01:03:00.997 ‐‐> 01:03:04.037students publish the same code.

01:03:04.037 ‐‐> 01:03:07.157is that misconduct? Have you copied?

01:03:07.157 ‐‐> 01:03:10.297off each other? So when you're doing teamwork, you really?

01:03:10.297 ‐‐> 01:03:13.447have to talk to the professors about what does it mean?

01:03:13.447 ‐‐> 01:03:16.657Does that mean everybody?

01:03:16.657 ‐‐> 01:03:18.657s name on the same project?

01:03:18.707 ‐‐> 01:03:22.177Or does everybody have different things that they submit?

01:03:22.177 ‐‐> 01:03:25.327And so let's think back to that talk that I gave.

01:03:25.327 ‐‐> 01:03:29.077earlier today about academic integrity module on Moodle.

01:03:29.077 ‐‐> 01:03:32.097Make sure you do that. So the difference between.

01:03:32.097 ‐‐> 01:03:35.277what's OK, group work and what's not. OK, group work.

01:03:35.277 ‐‐> 01:03:38.997cause you don't want to get in trouble for integrity specially.

01:03:38.997 ‐‐> 01:03:42.097cause it's a lot easier in the engineering program.

01:03:42.097 ‐‐> 01:03:43.637ecause you're working in groups.

01:03:45.017 ‐‐> 01:03:45.467Yeah.

01:03:46.907 ‐‐> 01:03:50.107And I think that's about the end of the questions, but I think.

01:03:50.107 ‐‐> 01:03:53.407

nk we lost it. All the questions if you have anymore questions please.

01:03:53.407 ‐‐> 01:03:57.187ask them now. If not, we will end this item by item in.

01:03:57.187 ‐‐> 01:04:00.747it. So you're here for an hour. That's a decently.

01:04:00.747 ‐‐> 01:04:03.747long time to be sitting. Watching us and talk to us.

01:04:04.617 ‐‐> 01:04:07.917And do this. So now there's a decent amount of time.

01:04:07.917 ‐‐> 01:04:11.067where, like you forever. So before you go on.

01:04:11.067 ‐‐> 01:04:14.077over back to the Q and the last link.

01:04:14.077 ‐‐> 01:04:17.787that I post is to the program counseling page for our department.

01:04:17.787 ‐‐> 01:04:21.057And that's where I'm going to post the helpful links.

01:04:21.057 ‐‐> 01:04:24.357That's where you find out how to email us. Remember, it's to CS.

01:04:24.357 ‐‐> 01:04:27.577counts, and so you'll scurry.

01:04:27.577 ‐‐> 01:04:30.827over there in a little bit to see if there's any updates from us and.

01:04:30.827 ‐‐> 01:04:33.887how you can contact us if you have other questions if you'd missed.

01:04:33.887 ‐‐> 01:04:34.817your question now.

01:04:34.867 ‐‐> 01:04:36.997Just email it to us and we'd be happy to answer it.

01:04:38.767 ‐‐> 01:04:41.937so I don't see any more questions so if you want to just wrap up and

01:04:41.937 ‐‐> 01:04:45.097hank you everybody for coming and I don't know. See you tomorrow.

01:04:45.097 ‐‐> 01:04:48.137and meet the majors April nothing else, yeah.

01:04:48.137 ‐‐> 01:04:51.487so that's a good point, great. Did you want to talk about how to meet the majors?

01:04:51.487 ‐‐> 01:04:54.537Is going to be different than today like everybody's.

01:04:54.537 ‐‐> 01:04:58.657time is precious? Do they have to sit and listen to us blah blah for another app, perhaps camping?

01:04:58.657 ‐‐> 01:04:58.657

01:05:01.077 ‐‐> 01:05:02.147So.

01:05:03.657 ‐‐> 01:05:04.017Alright.

01:05:05.727 ‐‐> 01:05:09.177well look at the courses so we'll look at the majors

01:05:09.177 ‐‐> 01:05:12.297e in depth, so we'll look at the course. Is that actually there?

01:05:12.297 ‐‐> 01:05:15.567is part of the majors, will talk about more of the academic requirements. What you?

01:05:15.567 ‐‐> 01:05:18.927have to do to graduate, so we'll get more specific.

01:05:18.927 ‐‐> 01:05:22.717about the majors at about the CIS courses within those majors.

01:05:22.717 ‐‐> 01:05:25.747and what the requirements are to graduate and will.

01:05:25.747 ‐‐> 01:05:29.917be able to answer questions again tomorrow.

01:05:29.917 ‐‐> 01:05:29.917

01:05:30.597 ‐‐> 01:05:34.147So there's no more questions, so I'm going to say goodbye.

01:05:34.147 ‐‐> 01:05:37.487Thanks very much for joining us, and if you have questions in the future.

01:05:37.487 ‐‐> 01:05:40.657where to find us program counseling at the school computer.

01:05:40.657 ‐‐> 01:05:44.247science website csscounts@yourgolf.ca.

01:05:44.247 ‐‐> 01:05:47.837and I'll pass a fall back in case she wants to say goodbye to.

01:05:47.837 ‐‐> 01:05:47.837

01:05:50.377 ‐‐> 01:05:53.687Alright, let me see when I go live. Thank you everybody.

01:05:53.687 ‐‐> 01:05:56.797for coming. I can't wait to meet you online or in person if you want.

01:05:56.797 ‐‐> 01:05:59.827to talk to us face to face that personal contacts.

01:05:59.827 ‐‐> 01:06:02.887really important we can do it on Microsoft teams.

01:06:02.887 ‐‐> 01:06:05.967OK and then we'll have a video conference and that's easy and quick.

01:06:05.967 ‐‐> 01:06:09.727So I'm really glad you all came out and I guess.

01:06:09.727 ‐‐> 01:06:11.787we can go so Greg, if you want to hit end.

01:06:13.347 ‐‐> 01:06:14.517Next four years with you.

01:06:15.797 ‐‐> 01:06:17.577Bye everybody, bye?

01:06:20.647 ‐‐> 01:06:27.607

01:06:27.607 ‐‐> 01:06:34.347