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Unusual features in Šó ka Romani (associative and ostensives). Viktor Elšík Charles University. Project Linguistic research on Šó ka Romani , 2000-2002 supported by OPEN SOCIETY INSTITUTE, Budapest. Šó ka Romani. Poland. Czechia. NC. Ukraine. SC. Austria. Hungary. V. R. V. R. - PowerPoint PPT Presentation
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Unusual features in Šóka Romani (associative and ostensives) Viktor Elšík Charles University Project Linguistic research on Šóka Romani, 2000-2002 supported by OPEN SOCIETY INSTITUTE, Budapest
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Page 1: Unusual features in  Šó ka Romani (associative and ostensives)

Unusual features in Šóka Romani(associative and ostensives)

Viktor ElšíkCharles University

Project Linguistic research on Šóka Romani, 2000-2002supported by

OPEN SOCIETY INSTITUTE, Budapest

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Austria

Czechia

Ukr

aine

Poland

Hungary

SCSC

NCNC

Šóka Romani

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RR

R

R

R

R

R

VV

V

V

V

V

SlovakHungarian

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Associative

Hungarian

kőműves ‘bricklayer’kőműves-ek ‘bricklayers’kőműves-ék ‘bricklayer & his work team’

Alena ‘Alena’Alená-k ‘Alenas’Alena-ék ‘Alena & her family/friends’

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Associative

Hungariankőműves ‘bricklayer’kőműves-ek ‘bricklayers’kőműves-ék ‘bricklayer & his work team’

Šóka Romanikémívėš-i ‘bricklayer’kémívėšš-ė ‘bricklayers’kémívėš-ingere ‘bricklayer & his work team’

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Associative

HungarianAlena ‘Alena’Alená-k ‘Alenas’Alena-ék ‘Alena and her family/friends’

Šóka RomaniAlen-a ‘Alena’Alen-i ‘Alenas’Alen-angere ‘Alena and her family/friends’

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Associative v. genitive (form)

ASS kémívėš-in-ger-e

GEN.SGNOM.PL kémívėš-is-ker-e

GEN.PLNOM.PL kémívėš-en-ger-e

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Associative v. genitive (form)

ASS Alen-an-ger-e

GEN.SGNOM.PL Alen-a-ker-e

GEN.PLNOM.PL Alen-en-ger-e

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Associative marking

OBL.SG OBL.PL ASS Kálo M -es- -en- -en- Grófo M -os- -en-/-on- -on- Gumi M -is- -en- -in- Rička M -as- -en- -an- Káli F -a- -en- -an- Čuma F -a- -en- -an- Néni F -i- -en- -in-

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Associative marking

OBL.SG OBL.PL ASS Kálo M -e s- -e n- -e n- Grófo M -o s- -e/o n- -o n- Gumi M -i s- -e n- -i n- Rička M -a s- -e n- -a n- Káli F -a – -e n- -a n- Čuma F -a – -e n- -a n- Néni F -i – -e n- -i n-

OBL.SG.M

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Associative marking

OBL.SG OBL.PL ASS Kálo M -e s- -e n- -e n- Grófo M -o s- -e/o n- -o n- Gumi M -i s- -e n- -i n- Rička M -a s- -e n- -a n- Káli F -a – -e n- -a n- Čuma F -a – -e n- -a n- Néni F -i – -e n- -i n-

OBL.PL

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Associative marking

OBL.SG OBL.PL ASS Kálo M -e s- -e n- -e n- Grófo M -o s- -e/o n- -o n- Gumi M -i s- -e n- -i n- Rička M -a s- -e n- -a n- Káli F -a – -e n- -a n- Čuma F -a – -e n- -a n- Néni F -i – -e n- -i n-

SG class

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Associative marking

OBL.SG OBL.PL ASS Kálo M -e s- -e n- -e n- Grófo M -o s- -e/o n- -o n- Gumi M -i s- -e n- -i n- Rička M -a s- -e n- -a n- Káli F -a – -e n- -a n- Čuma F -a – -e n- -a n- Néni F -i – -e n- -i n-

PL class

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Associative marking

OBL.SG OBL.PL ASS Kálo M -e s- -e n- -e n- Grófo M -o s- -e/o n- -o n- Gumi M -i s- -e n- -i n- Rička M -a s- -e n- -a n- Káli F -a – -e n- -a n- Čuma F -a – -e n- -a n- Néni F -i – -e n- -i n-

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Associative marking

Alen- -a- SG

Alen- -a- -n- ASS

Alen- -e- -n- PL

focus on a single referent

plural reference

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Associative inflection

NOM kémívėš-i-n-ger-e

VOC kémívėš-i-n-ger-alen

ACC kémívėš-i-n-ger-en

DAT kémívėš-i-n-ger-en-ge

LOC kémívėš-i-n-ger-en-de

ABL kémívėš-i-n-ger-en-dar

SOC kémívėš-i-n-ger-en-ca

GEN kémívėš-i-n-ger-en-ger-o/i/e

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Associative v. genitive

ASS Alenangere ‘Alena and her family’reference includes Alena

GEN Alenakerehead use, e.g. ‘Alena’s family’reference excludes Alena

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Picture of the former Šóka péró

Adajbešasahi

áke.‘We used tolive here.’

And adá kher áke.

‘In thishouse.’

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Ostensives v. deictics

GESTURE NO GESTURE

deictic yes yes

ostensive yes no

deictics need not be accompanied by gestures

ostensives must be accompanied by gestures

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Demonstratives and local deictics

DEM STATIVE DIRECTIVE SEPARATIVE

a-d-á a-d-a-j a-nďa á-thar

o-d-á o-d-o-j o-nďa ó-thar

a-k-á á-k-a-j a-k-ija a-k-a-thar

o-k-á o-k-o-j o-k-ija o-k-o-thar

am-o-k-á am-o-k-o-j am-o-k-ija am-o-k-o-thar

local ostensives

á-k-eó-k-e

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Ostensives áke/óke

adaj bešasahi áke‘we used to live here ’

and adá kher áke‘in this house’

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Grammaticalisation

adaj bešasahi áke‘we used to live here ’

and adá kher áke‘in this house’

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Grammaticalisation

adaj bešasahi áke ák-adaj bešasahi‘we used to live here ’

and adá kher áke and ák-adá kher‘in this house’

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Demonstratives

adá adá ... áke ák-adá

aká aká ... áke ák-aká

odá odá ... óke ók-odá

oká oká ... óke ók-oká

amoká amoká ... óke ók-amoká

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Mr. Lakatoš caught a fish

Kibedor sa i čuka?‘How big was the pike?’

Assi dugi-je!‘This long!’

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The kontráši and the prímáši

Jaj, de šukáre bašavel o Ďusi!‘Wow, Ďusi plays so nicely!’

Avka le site keres-e, Deži!‘This is how you have to do it, Deži!’

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Ostensive -(j)e

assi dugi-je‘this long’

avka le site keres-e‘this is how you have to do it’

‘you have to do it like this ’

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Non-local deictics

quality a-sso ‘such’ak-a-savo

manner avka ‘so’

quantity a-ťťi ‘so much’

size e-bedor ‘so big’

savo

sar

ki-ťťi

ki-bedor

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Ostensive -(j)e

tu na kames ebedora sobi-je?tu ebedora sobi na kames-e?

‘you don’t like this big rooms?’

utterance-finalphonologically-conditioned allomorphyenclitic, not suffix: *kameh-e

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Ostensives v. deictics

DEICTIC OSTENSIVE GESTURE

localáke/óke pointing

demonstrative

quality

-(j)epointingmeasure

performative

manner

quantity

size

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The unusual features

associativeIs it found in other dialects influenced by Hungarian? In other dialects?

ostensive particlesLikely to be found in other dialects!


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