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User manual

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Contents

1 Welcome.................................................................................................................................................... 4

2 Important................................................................................................................................................... 5

3 Compatibility to DAW software .................................................................................................................. 6

4 Hardware Installation ................................................................................................................................. 7

4.1 What’s in the box ............................................................................................................................... 7

4.2 Connecting the d8b ............................................................................................................................ 8

4.3 Connecting the audio to the d8b (Monitor controller) ........................................................................ 9

5 Installation Drivers ................................................................................................................................... 10

5.1 Windows XP 32 bit ........................................................................................................................... 10

5.2 Windows 7 64 bit.............................................................................................................................. 10

5.3 Windows 8 64 bit.............................................................................................................................. 12

5.4 MacOS .............................................................................................................................................. 12

5.5 Linux ................................................................................................................................................ 12

6 Installation DAW ...................................................................................................................................... 13

6.1 Setting up Cubase for your ProBox ................................................................................................... 14

6.2 Setting up for Reaper 4 ..................................................................................................................... 19

6.3 Setting up for Protools ...................................................................................................................... 22

6.4 Setting up for PresonusStudio One ................................................................................................... 23

6.5 Setting up for Logic ........................................................................................................................... 25

6.6 Setting up for Sonar Professional (for two proboxes) ........................................................................ 30

7 Description............................................................................................................................................... 37

7.1 Startup ............................................................................................................................................. 37

7.2 Configure your Probox ...................................................................................................................... 38

7.3 MCU and XT emulation ..................................................................................................................... 45

7.3.1 Special Probox Buttons to access MCU and two XTs .................................................................. 45

7.3.2 Button Map d8b MCU/XT .......................................................................................................... 46

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7.3.3 Vpots ........................................................................................................................................ 46

7.3.4 OL /Led function ....................................................................................................................... 47

7.3.5 Faders Off function (red circle) .................................................................................................. 47

7.3.6 Meterbridge Off function (green circle) ONLY Mackie/Logic ...................................................... 47

7.4 HUI emulation .................................................................................................................................. 49

7.4.1 Faders Off function ................................................................................................................... 49

7.4.2 Button Map HUI ........................................................................................................................ 50

7.5 Monitor Controller function ............................................................................................................. 53

7.5.1 Monitor Section ........................................................................................................................ 53

7.5.2 Cue Section ............................................................................................................................... 53

7.5.3 Signal path of Monitor controller .............................................................................................. 55

7.6 Generic Control functions ................................................................................................................. 56

8 MIDI Implementation Table ..................................................................................................................... 57

9 Support .................................................................................................................................................... 60

10 Warranty .............................................................................................................................................. 61

11 Changelog ............................................................................................................................................ 62

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1 Welcome

Thanks for purchasing the ProBox. In this document you will find a detailed description about

the installation and function of the ProBox. The Probox is developed by me as a single person.

I’m a professional on electronics and software development as this is my daily business in a big

electronic development company.

Nevertheless there can be that there will be any strange behaviour with this product. In that

case you can contact me via email. I have stored all email addresses of the probox customers

to let you know when updates are released. I wish you a lot of joy and happy working with the ProBox without

troubles.

The probox emulates a Mackie/Logic Control with two extensions plus a monitor controller and a generic

controller for the remaining not used buttons/Vpots. As there are several DAW programs available it is not

possible for me to test the proBox on all platforms. As the ProBox emulates the Mackie stuff it should work

with all platforms that support the Mackie/Logic Control. The Monitor Controller is DAW / OS independent and

will work everytime.

Special thanks to:

Thomas Rybka who made the logo and tested the ProBox on Mac with Logic.

system32 (in the d8b forum) for sniffing the audio protocol on the console site

Tony Harp (in the d8b forum) for for testing the HUI protocol on Protools

M.Shaw for the Sonar Professional setup

my wife for her understanding ☺

Best regards

Ralph Weritz

Ralph Weritz

Contact: [email protected]

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2 Important

Please read this carefully to avoid damage and problems with your ProBox or d8b.

!!! Keep Boot order. First Computer, after bootup and logon, then power d8b, when

welcome screen (DAW offline) on display appears the start DAW software !!!

!!! Never connect both USB ports at the same time !!!

This can cause a damage to the ProBox or your computer via the power supply domain.

Use the Monitor Controller Section carefully. Too much level (loudness) on the Phone Output can injure your

ears.

As the ProBox simulates the Mackie MCU/XT the Probox will have all issues that a Mackie MCU/XT will have

with your DAW software. If you have problems I will help you, but please don’t except a fix if it is a MCU related

problem. I will not be able to fix that as it is not in my technical responsibility.

On Logic (and maybe other DAW programs) you might not have the full Fader range (Logic stops at +6dB). This

is not a bug of the probox, Logic doiesn’t send a wider range, to ensure that the level displayed in Logic fits to

the marks beside the Fader. A Fader calibration will not solve this issur.

The drivers for windows 7, Mac and Linux are OS drivers. So I’m not able to do any updates on that. The ProBox

is tested with these OS types and there were no issues found. If something will pop up on driver site we have to

wait for driver updates. By the way, I found out that the real Mackie MCU Pro (USB Version) uses the same

drivers.

The HUI mode emulates 3 HUIs in parallel. Protools seperates some functions on the three single HUI controller.

E.g. you can use the multi select option when pressing the channel select button, keep it pressed and press a

second one. These two channels will be selected. Protools only accepts this function per HUI unit. That means

this works only in groups of channel 1-8, 9-16, 17-24.

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3 Compatibility to DAW software

The Probox supports following DAW solutions. Now also HUI !!!

See also: http://www.mackie.com/products/mcupro/mcupro_software.html

NOTE: You can find the manuals for your DAW on the CD in the folder Manuals/DAWs or on the link above.

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4 Hardware Installation

!!!the probox is plug and play, so connect it and the drivers should be installed automatically !!!

4.1 What’s in the box

Your package will contain:

• the probox

• USB cable (usually you will never need it. Only for windows if a normal firmware update crashes)

All manuals will be available via email and download. Firmware updates will also be available via download and

email.

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4.2 Connecting the d8b

• Connect the probox to the 25 female SUB-D connector marked as “console”.

• Connect the power supply cable (the fat one with the monster plug ) Mackie PSU/CPU to your

console.

ProBox PSU

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4.3 Connecting the audio to the d8b (Monitor controller)

The following Audio connectors can be used with the ProBox:

Connector type Function

2 TRACK IN A INPUT Input Source A

2 TRACK IN B INPUT Input Source B

2 TRACK IN C INPUT Input Source C

AUX 9 INPUT Input for CUE AUX (note 120 Ohm Load !)




TALKBACK INPUT Footswitch Talkback

MIC1-12 INPUT Can be accessed analogue via Insert Out

CR MAIN OUTPUT Main Speakers

CR NEARFIELD OUTPUT Nearfield Speakers

STUDIO OUT OUTPUT Studio Output

PHONES 1 OUTPUT Phones 1 CUE 1 Output

PHONES2 OUTPUT Phones 2 CUE 2 Output

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5 Installation Drivers

The ProBox supports the following operating systems:

• Windows 7 64 bit (use the generic Windows driver) folder: Windows_64-bit

• Linux (driver included in OS)

• MacOs (driver included in OS)

5.1 Windows XP 32 bit

Windows XP (32 bit) is not supported. There are drivers available and they work but it is not tested fully on a

DAW. Never the less all my proboxes are tested on a testsoftware (all communication commands) that runs

with windows XP. So XP should work

5.2 Windows 7 64 bit

Driver: Windows_64-bit

Connect the probox, windows will automatically detect the box and install the windows driver. You will gbet a

message when the driver is installed properly. Additional you will find the MCU in the device manager.

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5.3 Windows 8 64 bit

Driver: includen in your OS

Connect the probox via USB port marked as “DAW”. The OS should install the drivers automatically.

5.4 MacOS



5.5 Linux



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6 Installation DAW

Please refer to the installation procedure for the Mackie / Logic Control for your DAW software.

On Windows the generic driver will show you 5 USB Midi Ports. The last port (usually numbered with 5) is not

used.

On Cubase it depends how you order your 3 MCU ports to manage the channels 1-24 in groups of eight.

If you want to have the channels 1-24 of your d8b to be the channels 1-24 in Cubase you have to generate 3

Mackie Controls and match it like the table.

Logic should autodetect the MCU and the two XTs. You have only bring it in your preferred order.

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6.1 Setting up Cubase for your ProBox

This describes the setup for your Cubase/Nuendo. The probox has to be connected and recognized by

Windows. D8b should be booted up and working.

• Select “Geräte/Devices” and “config Devices” .

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• Add 3 Mackie Controls by pressing the “+” Button. Then you should get three Mackie control in your

list. Configure the forst to the USB Midi Port 4. Leave the setup as it is. “Kurz” means short.

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• Configure the next two Mackie Controls as following: Select Port 3

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As this is the MCU and the others are the XTs you can make here your user defined setup for the F1-F9

keys (shown in blue).

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• If you want you can add the generic controller. Press “+” and add a generic controller. Change the

Midiports to the port MCU Port 5.

• Here you can program the additional generic functions of the probox.

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6.2 Setting up for Reaper 4

For reaper 4 you have to do the following setup

Mackie MCU --> MIDIIN4 (MCU Port) In and out Fader Offset = 16

Mackie XT --> MIDIIN3 (MCU Port) In and out Fader Offset = 8

Mackie XT --> MIDIIN2 (MCU Port) In and out Fader Offset = 0

Select Options � preferences

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Select Control Surfaces and press Add to add one Mackie Control Universal and two Mackie Control Extender

Set the 3 controllers to the following options

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6.3 Setting up for Protools

For protools you have to do the following setup

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6.4 Setting up for PresonusStudio One

• For presonus studio one setup the probox protocol to Mackie Control

• Add a Mackie Control in the Add External Devices dialog

• Select the Send and receive MIDI ports MCUport4 for IN/OUT

• Add two Mackie XT controllers in the Add external device dialog

• Select send and receive MIDI Ports MCUport3 and MCUport2 for the extenders

Group your Units. Use the surface Placement option to create a Group and fdefine the placement of

each unit. Put all three devices in one group (Group 1) to get all channels (1-24) Note that the Extender

with port MCUport2 has to be the first one, the extender with port 3 has to be the second one and the

MCU on MCUport 4 the last one to have the right order !

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Control Extender 2 � MCUPort2�RED

Control Extender 1 � MCUPort3�GREEN

Mackie Control � MCUPort4�BLUE

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6.5 Setting up for Logic

In logic the controller is auto detected and installed. It can happen that the order is wrong, e.g. channel 1-8 in

Logic is 17-24 on the d8b.In this case bring the MCU and XTs into the right order (see screen shots). The

screenshots are done with Logic X but are valid for all Logic versions. MCU must be right, the XTs in the middle

and left, all three have to be on one group to ensure 24 channels in parallel. The MCU on the right side must

have MCUPort4, the XT in the middle must be MCUPort3 and the left one must have MCUPort2.

Group

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MCU

XT2

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XT1

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6.6 Setting up for Sonar Professional (for two proboxes)

Special thanks to M.Shaw for that !!!

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For the first D8B under the Sonar "Utilities" menu - "Mackie Control 1" I selected the "Configure Layout"

button. On the D8B I selected the "On" button and using channel 1 Vpot to setup 1-8. On the D8B I selected

the "Setup" button and channel 9 Vpot to setup 9-16, On the D8B I selected the "Memory A" button and

channel 17 Vpot to setup 17-24.

For the second D8B under the Sonar "Utilities" menu - "Mackie Control 2" I selected the "Configure Layout"

button. On the D8B I selected the "On" button and using channel 1(25) Vpot to setup 25-32. On the D8B I

selected the "Setup" button and channel 9(33) Vpot to setup 33-40, On the D8B I selected the "Memory A"

button and channel 17(41) Vpot to setup 41-48.

See below:

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I found that using the 2 D8B's together only works correctly when I boot the computer with the 2 Probox's first,

then power on the 2 D8B's, then bring up the DAW. It works consistently everytime when using this order.

Before using the DAW for the first time, I did have to cal the faders on both D8B's in order to sync up all of the

faders for both D8B's. From then on everything worked perfectly.

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7 Description

This chapter describes how you setup and use your ProBox.

NOTE: To use the function of the ProBox it is necessary to wait till the firmware is transmitted to the console.

This is a Mackie design problem and cannot be improved by the proBox Solution.

7.1 Startup

To startup use the following order

• Power on the computer with connected probox

• Power on the d8b

o The welcome screen should appear “ ProBox Version 2.03.05“

“ waiting for d8b console“

• Wait till the ProBox starts to transmit the firmware to the console

o The display should show “ ProBox Version 2.03.05”

“ loading firmware“

• When Firmware is transmitted the d8b faders will go to 0 and the display will show “ !!! DAW offline

!!!”. At this point it is possible to configure your ProBox or use the Monitor section. Also the first 8

green channel LEds will lite.

• Start your DAW application

NOTE:

After transmitting the firmware the Probox is switched to the high datarate of 230.400 Baud instead of the

usual 115200 baud. If the Probox doesn’t receive the heartbeat within 5 seconds of the console it switches

back to 115200 Baud ensure a retransmission of the firmware.

That means, if you have problems with your d8b console you can power the console off and on again. The

Probox will ensure a working system again, but it will take some seconds.

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7.2 Configure your Probox

You can make some small configuration for your Probox/d8b. This is done via the config menu on the d8b.

There are three configuration pages available, you can select them by pressing the “NEXT” or “PREVIOUS”

button.

As some of you do not have a working VDF display it’s possible to setup the box also via the MTC display.

The first 8 digits display the modes in the setup mode.

Page parameter 1 parameter 2 parameter 3

01 00 00 00

PAGE 1/6: You can select three parameters:

M-Faders Ctl-Room Protocol

Normal [0] Generic [0] Mackie [0]

Fast [1] d8b [1] Logic [1]

D8b/gen[2] HUI [2]

Faders: The motor faders will react normal or fast. It’s recommended to use the normal operation, as it seems

so that the d8b has a strange algorithm on the fast fader routine (drives fast near the transmitted position and

then after a short delay drives slow to the dedicated point). Often the Faders jump above the dedicated

position and drive back again

Monitor control: use the Audio Monitor section of the d8b or use the buttons and Vpots as generic controller.

From V2-01-17 there is the possibility to use a mixture of the d8b Control Room. In this mode the Stereo VPot

is used as generic controller to have a PAN for the Master Out in Cubase and the rest operates as Monitor

Controller of the d8b. In this mode you do not have the Studio Input as this Vpot is used by the generic

Controller.

Protocol: use Logic for Logic, in all other cases use Mackie. HUI is not available at the moment. NOTE: Also

there is no difference at the moment between logic and Mackie (as both implementations uses both

initializations). The separation is on the meterbridge. If you have clipping Logic only sends the Meter command

Clip, not the full meter command anymore. This ends up in a way the the meterbridge is not updated as long

you have clipping. If you select the Logic format, all LEDs of the meterbridge will be set on a clip command.

So if you have Logic please select here Logic to get a proper meterbridge working. Also set the Meterbridge

settings to DAW/prob

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Metermode Fadercal useFcalib

DAW/prob [0] Start [0] No [0]

full DAW [1] -30dB [1] Yes [1]

No meter [2] -10dB [2]

fast prbx [3] U [3]

Fast DAW [4]

Metermode: If you select “full DAW“ the DAW sets and clears the Meters of the d8b. If you select

“DAW/prob”, then the meter is set by the DAW and cleared by the probox (no meter artifacts if meter

commands are not send correctly by DAW). The settings fast prbx and fast DAW do the same, but the Leds

react faster. This setting is not possible in normal Mode, only in boost. I’ve observed that for Cubase the Full

DAW mode seems to be better and for logic the DAW/prob is more usefull.

If you want to use the audio part via the d8b, the dsp board may send meterbridge commands that influence

your visual meterbridge. Therfore it is possible to switch that off.

Fadercal: here you can calibrate your faders. Press the button above the third vpot “SELECT” to start the

calibration. The faders will go near the -30dB position, now move the faders manually to the -30dB. Then press

the button again. The faders will go near -10dB. Proceed as you did with the -30dB on the -10dB position and

also for the U position. Fader Calibration values will be stored when you leave the config setup.

NOTE: The fadercalibration will scale the fader areas to the dB marks (for Logic). If you want to use the faders

without matching scaling, then set the “useFcalib” to “no” otherwise set it to “yes” if you want to use the

calibration.


Emulation COM-Speed Faderfilter

MCU2XT_1 [0] Boost [0] 0 [0]

MCU2XT_2 [1] Normal [1] 1-5 [1-5]

3XT [2]

MCU2XT_1 emulates one MCU and 2 XT with a dedicated serialnumber.

MCU2XT_2 emulates one MCU and 2 XT with a different dedicated serialnumber than MCU2XT_1. This is used

if you want to use two d8bs with two proboxes in parallel.

3XT emulates 3 XT. This is used if you want to use two d8bs with two proboxes in parallel, but your DAW

software doesn’t support 2 MCUs at the same time.

NOTE: I cannot guarantee that this will work, as it depends on the DAW software how many MCUs XTs are

supported at the same time.

COM-Speed: If you are an unlucky guy, your d8b console might be weak to run with the doubled baudrate. In

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this case you can go back to the normal baudrate with this option. Note that in this mode, the meterbridge

mode Full DAW is not supported due to bandwith limitations.

Faderfilter: here you can enable a fader touch filter (the d8b slightly changes the fader values due to stability

problems. To disable this, you can activate the fader filter). The probox will then only send fader movements, if

the change is bigger than the selected value. This helps to stop slightly fader changes, but makes smooth fader

movement more difficult.


Test-LED Test-Key Tst_Meter

LEDS ON [0] TEST OFF [0] Start [0]

LEDS OFF [1] TEST ON [1] 1-5 [1-5]

LEDS ON will switch on all LEDS

LEDS OFF will switch off all LEDS

Test-Key: If Test-Key is TEST ON the every button press will display 01 on the channel display. If you release the

key it will go back to 00. As long you keep it pressed you will see 01

On Tst_Meter Press Start to make a full Meterbrigde light up (including clipping LEDs). The Meterbridge will

fade down.

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TalkMode TalkDIM

Switch [0] off [0]

Button [1] DIM [1]

Talkmode:

if you want to have a latch function on the Talkback Switch you have to configure Switch:

If you only want to have the talkback session as long as you keep the button pressed select button

TalkDIM:

If you want to DIM the Main/Nearfield Speakers during Talkback then select DIM. If you do not want to DIM

the Speakers during Talkback then select off.

These function are also valid for the footswitch.


FdrTouch

manual

automatic

manual:

As the faders are not touch sensitive on the d8b you can use the ASSIGN button to simulate the fader touch.

press the button and keep it pressed, move the fader and release the ASSIGN button. The pressing will send a

Fader touch signal, the release will send the release message.

automatic:

Here the fader touch is send when the probox recognizes a fader movement, the release will be sent 200ms

after the last movement.

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• Press the button “MEMORY B” marked green to access the Config Menu

• Use one of the three “SELECT” buttons (marked blue) to change the setup. You will find it displayed in

the second row of the display. E.g. press the left button to change between Fader normal and fader

fast, the middle button for generic or d8b and the right one for the protocol. Use the

“NEXT,PREVIOUS” button to access the Page 2 of the Setup or to get back to page 1.

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• Press one of the three red marked buttons “ON SETUP or MEMORY A” to get out of the config menu

and store the setup.

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IMPORTANT: when you step out the config setup, all changes are stored, also the actual levels of the

Monitoring section (if it is enabled) except the Speakers volume. In other words, if you want to boot your

probox with a dedicated Monitoring Controller setup 2 Track Input A and as output Nearfiled speaker you

have to do this:

• Make your setup on the Monitoring controller section of the d8b, setup your volumes for Talkback,

Phones etc..

NOTE: Volume for Speaker out, Talkback, Mono and DIM is not important as it will always be set to 0 or

Off on boot (security reasons).

• Press “MEMORY B” o enter the configuration menu.

• Press one of the three red marked buttons “ON SETUP or MEMORY A” to leave the setup and store all

the settings of the monitor controller.

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7.3 MCU and XT emulation

For detailed MCU XT functionality please refer to the dedicated DAW manual for the Mackie MCU/XT.

For Cubase/Nuendo I’ve attached this manual on the CD. I only support a Button map which button on the d8b

covers the buttons on the MCU/XT.

7.3.1 Special Probox Buttons to access MCU and two XTs

As we all know, one MCU and two XTs offer 3 displays with 2x52 characters. As the d8b only has one display

with 2x40 characters this display has the offer a function that makes it possible to access these 3 MCU displays.

You can access the XT1 by pressing the button “ON”. The XT2 is selected by pressing “SETUP”. “MEMORY A”

select the MCU. As we have too less characters in the display to show all messages, you can scroll the display

left and right by using the buttons “PREVIOUS” or “NEXT”. You will find > or < arrows in the display that shows

you where text is hided and can be accessed by the buttons.

Additional the “PREVIOS” and “NEXT” button switches between VPots 1-4 or 5-8. The select buttons above are

the VPot switches. The green channel LEDs will show you the selected MCU/XT in groups of 8.

NOTE: you can access the VPot switches only vie this method. The PAN Vpots of the 24 channels are equal to

the MCU, XT Vpots, so you can also use them to change parameters, but you will not have any Vpot switch

there.

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7.3.2 Button Map d8b MCU/XT

You will find the map on the CD under documentation: Filename: mackie_vs_d8b_buttons.pdf

7.3.3 Vpots

The VPots are rotate sensitive. That means if your turn the vpot faster, it will react with bigger jumps.

If you need real big value jumps on your vpot, press down the “MASTER PAN” button and keep it pressed while

turning the vpot. You will change the value with a factor of 31.

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7.3.4 OL /Led function

The probox has build in an additional function that is not supported by the original MCU/XT.

If the probox receives an overload message from the DAW, the red channel LED for the dedicated overloaded

channel is blinking. This will be the case till it is cleared by the user by pressing the “MASTER PAN” button or

switches between banks or makes a channel shift.

7.3.5 Faders Off function (red circle)

As some of you have problems with the faders (small changes every time) the fader send and fader receive

messages can be turned on and off. Cubase and Logic has this function “build in” on the Controller, but other

DAWs like Ableton do not have it. Therefore this function is implemented in the probox.

To turn off the whole faders press the write button on the left side of the Master fader. It will blink to indicate

that the faders are off. If you want to turn them on press the button again.

7.3.6 Meterbridge Off function (green circle) ONLY Mackie/Logic

If you want to use your audio via a switchbox, it can happen that your DSP engine disturbes your Meterbridge.

With this function you can disable displaying the DAW meterbridge on the d8b ans see the pure audio signal on

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the bridge. For that you have to run the probox in the normal speed (not boost) and with no meterbridge hack.

press the SHORTCUT ALT button to disable the meterbridge.

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7.4 HUI emulation

As we all know, one 3 HUI offer 3 displays with 2x80 characters. As the d8b only has one display with 2x40

characters this display has the offer a function that makes it possible to access these 3 MCU displays.

You can access the HUI1 by pressing the button “ON”. HUI2 is selected by pressing “SETUP”. “MEMORY A”

selects the HUI3. The green channel LEDs will show you the selected HUI in groups of 8.

7.4.1 Faders Off function

As some of you have problems with the faders (small changes every time) the fader send and fader receive

messages can be turned on and off. Cubase and Logic has this function “build in” on the Controller, but other

DAWs like Ableton do not have it. Therefore this function is implemented in the probox.

To turn off the whole faders press the EFFECTS 49-72 button above the Master fader. It will blink to indicate

that the faders are off. If you want to turn them on press the button again.

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7.4.2 Button Map HUI

d8b buttons

0x00 0x01 0x02 0x03 0x04 0x05 0x06 0x07 Zone 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7

00 by fader movement Ch 01 Select Ch 01 M ute Ch 01 So lo Ch 01 Write not suppo rted Ch 01 Assign Ch 01 Rec/Rdy 0 fader select mute solo auto v-sel insert rec/rdy

01 by fader movement Ch 02 Select Ch 02 M ute Ch 02 Solo Ch 02 Write not suppo rted Ch 02 Assign Ch 02 Rec/Rdy 1 fader select mute solo auto v-sel insert rec/rdy























08 M ASTER LR WRITE M ASTER LR SELECT CLIPBOARD PASTE CLIPBOARD CUT SHORTCUTS ALT SHORTCUTS CONTROL CLIPBOARD UNDO CLIPBOARD COPY 8 ctrl/clt shift/ad editmode undo alt/fine option/a edittool save

09 TRANSPORT SM PTE VIEW TRANSPORT 1 TRANSPORT 2 TRANSPORT 3 TRANSPORT 4 TRANSPORT 5 9 mix edit transprt mem-loc status alt

0A M aster M ASTERS M aster 1-24 M aster SHIFT M aster 25-48 0a <-CH <-Bank CH-> Bank->

0B M aster SOLO M aster Aux 11-12 PAN M aster Aux 11-12 M aster Aux8 M aster Aux6 M aster Aux4 M aster Aux2 M aster 1-48 Digital Trim 0b output input pan send e send d send c send b send a

0C M aster Aux9-10 PAN M aster Aux9-10 M aster Aux7 M aster Aux5 M aster Aux3 M aster Aux1 M aster 1-24 Level to tape 0c assign default suspend shift mute bypass recrdyal

0D CONTROL ROOM M ASTERS L-R ASSIGNM ENT ASSIGN BUS 5 CONTROL ROOM DIGITAL IN 1 ASSIGNM ENT ASSIGN BUS 6 CONTROL ROOM DIGITAL IN 2 not suppo rted JOG/SHUTTLE 0d down left mode right up scrub shuttle

0E CONTROL ROOM TALKBACK LEVEL TRANSPORT REWIND TRANSPORT FAST FORWARD TRANSPORT STOP TRANSPORT PLAY TRANSPORT RECORD 0e talkback rewind FF stop play record

0F TRANSPORT ENTER TRANSPORT LOOP not supported TRANSPORT STORE TRANSPORT LOCATOR TRANSPORT SNAPSHOT 0f |<rtz end>| online loop qck pnch

10 TRANSPORT 6 TRANSPORT 7 TRANSPORT 8 TRANSPORT 9 TRANSPORT 0 10 audition pre in out post

11 CONTROL ROOM 2 TRACK C CONTROL ROOM 2 TRACK B CONTROL ROOM 2 TRACK A not supported no t suppo rted 11 input 3 input 2 input 1 mute discrete

12 not suppo rted CONTROL ROOM NEAR FIELD CONTROL ROOM M AIN CONTROL ROOM DIM CONTROL ROOM M ONO 12 output 3 Output 2 output 1 dim mono

13 not suppo rted not supported not supported not supported no t suppo rted not suppo rted not supported not supported 13 0 1 4 2 5 . 3 6

14 not suppo rted not supported 14 enter +

15 not suppo rted not supported not supported not supported no t suppo rted not suppo rted not supported not supported 15 7 8 9 - clr = / *

16 TRANSPORT SET TIM E not supported not supported not supported 16 timecode feet beat rudesolo

17 ASSIGNM ENT ASSIGN BUS 1 ASSIGNM ENT ASSIGN BUS 2 AUTOM ATION BYPASS ASSIGNM ENT ASSIGN BUS 3 ASSIGNM ENT ASSIGN BUS 4 AUTOM ATION FADER M OTOR OFF 17 plug in pan fader sendmute send mute

18 AUTOM ATION FADERS AUTOM ATION M UTES AUTOM ATION AUTO TOUCH AUTOM ATION PAN AUTOM ATION ALL AUTOM ATION TRIM LEVELS 18 trim latch read off write touch

19 ASSIGNM ENT ASSIGN BUS 7 ASSIGNM ENT ASSIGN BUS 8 SETUP SAVE ASSIGNM ENT ASSIGN L-R ASSIGNM ENT ASSIGN ROUTE TO TAPE SETUP GROUP 19 phase monitor auto suspend create group

1A SETUP SAVE AS SETUP NEW SETUP LOAD SETUP GENERAL SETUP PLUG INS SETUP DIGITAL I/O 1a paste cut capture delete copy separate

1B SOLO/STUDIO M IXDOWN SOLO SOLO/STUDIO CLEAR SOLO SOLO/STUDIO PFL SOLO SOLO/STUDIO SOLO LEVEL SOLO/STUDIO AFL SOLO SOLO/STUDIO STUDIO LEVEL SOLO/STUDIO TALBACK TO STUDIO SOLO/STUDIO TALKBACK LEVEL 1b f1 f2 f3 f4 f5 f6 f7 f8/esc

1C EQ PLIUG-INS EQ EQ EQ SELECT1 EQ SELECT2 EQ SELECT3 EQ SELECT4 EQ COM PRESSOR EQ GATE 1c ins/para assign select 1 select 2 select 3 select 4 bypass compare

1D 1d fs/rlay1 fs/rlay2 click |beep

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Zoomed in:

0x00 0x01 0x02 0x03 0x04 0x05 0x06 0x07

00 by fader movement Ch 01 Select Ch 01 M ute Ch 01 Solo Ch 01 Write not supported Ch 01 Assign Ch 01 Rec/Rdy
























08 M ASTER LR WRITE M ASTER LR SELECT CLIPBOARD PASTE CLIPBOARD CUT SHORTCUTS ALT SHORTCUTS CONTROL CLIPBOARD UNDO CLIPBOARD COPY

09 TRANSPORT SM PTE VIEW TRANSPORT 1 TRANSPORT 2 TRANSPORT 3 TRANSPORT 4 TRANSPORT 5

0A M aster M ASTERS M aster 1-24 M aster SHIFT M aster 25-48

0B M aster SOLO M aster Aux 11-12 PAN M aster Aux 11-12 M aster Aux8 M aster Aux6 M aster Aux4 M aster Aux2 M aster 1-48 Digital Trim

0C M aster Aux9-10 PAN M aster Aux9-10 M aster Aux7 M aster Aux5 M aster Aux3 M aster Aux1 M aster 1-24 Level to tape

0D CONTROL ROOM M ASTERS L-R ASSIGNM ENT ASSIGN BUS 5 CONTROL ROOM DIGITAL IN 1 ASSIGNM ENT ASSIGN BUS 6 CONTROL ROOM DIGITAL IN 2 not supported JOG/SHUTTLE

0E CONTROL ROOM TALKBACK LEVEL TRANSPORT REWIND TRANSPORT FAST FORWARD TRANSPORT STOP TRANSPORT PLAY TRANSPORT RECORD

0F TRANSPORT ENTER TRANSPORT LOOP not supported TRANSPORT STORE TRANSPORT LOCATOR TRANSPORT SNAPSHOT

10 TRANSPORT 6 TRANSPORT 7 TRANSPORT 8 TRANSPORT 9 TRANSPORT 0

11 CONTROL ROOM 2 TRACK C CONTROL ROOM 2 TRACK B CONTROL ROOM 2 TRACK A not supported not supported

12 not supported CONTROL ROOM NEAR FIELD CONTROL ROOM M AIN CONTROL ROOM DIM CONTROL ROOM M ONO

13 not supported not supported not supported not supported not supported not supported not supported not supported

14 not supported not supported

15 not supported not supported not supported not supported not supported not supported not supported not supported

16 TRANSPORT SET TIM E not supported not supported not supported

17 ASSIGNM ENT ASSIGN BUS 1 ASSIGNM ENT ASSIGN BUS 2 AUTOM ATION BYPASS ASSIGNM ENT ASSIGN BUS 3 ASSIGNM ENT ASSIGN BUS 4 AUTOM ATION FADER M OTOR OFF

18 AUTOM ATION FADERS AUTOM ATION M UTES AUTOM ATION AUTO TOUCH AUTOM ATION PAN AUTOM ATION ALL AUTOM ATION TRIM LEVELS

19 ASSIGNM ENT ASSIGN BUS 7 ASSIGNM ENT ASSIGN BUS 8 SETUP SAVE ASSIGNM ENT ASSIGN L-R ASSIGNM ENT ASSIGN ROUTE TO TAPE SETUP GROUP

1A SETUP SAVE AS SETUP NEW SETUP LOAD SETUP GENERAL SETUP PLUG INS SETUP DIGITAL I/O

1B SOLO/STUDIO M IXDOWN SOLO SOLO/STUDIO CLEAR SOLO SOLO/STUDIO PFL SOLO SOLO/STUDIO SOLO LEVEL SOLO/STUDIO AFL SOLO SOLO/STUDIO STUDIO LEVEL SOLO/STUDIO TALBACK TO STUDIO SOLO/STUDIO TALKBACK LEVEL

1C EQ PLIUG-INS EQ EQ EQ SELECT1 EQ SELECT2 EQ SELECT3 EQ SELECT4 EQ COM PRESSOR EQ GATE

1D

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Zone 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7

0 fader select mute solo auto v-sel insert rec/rdy
























8 ctrl/clt shift/ad editmode undo alt/fine option/a edittool save

9 mix edit transprt mem-loc status alt

0a <-CH <-Bank CH-> Bank->

0b output input pan send e send d send c send b send a

0c assign default suspend shift mute bypass recrdyal

0d down left mode right up scrub shuttle

0e talkback rewind FF stop play record

0f |<rtz end>| online loop qck pnch

10 audition pre in out post

11 input 3 input 2 input 1 mute discrete

12 output 3 Output 2 output 1 dim mono

13 0 1 4 2 5 . 3 6

14 enter +

15 7 8 9 - clr = / *

16 timecode feet beat rudesolo

17 plug in pan fader sendmute send mute

18 trim latch read off write touch

19 phase monitor auto suspend create group

1a paste cut capture delete copy separate

1b f1 f2 f3 f4 f5 f6 f7 f8/esc

1c ins/para assign select 1 select 2 select 3 select 4 bypass compare

1d fs/rlay1 fs/rlay2 click |beep

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7.5 Monitor Controller function

This option is only available when it is enabled in the config menu.

7.5.1 Monitor Section

Use the three buttons “2 TRACK A 2 TRACK B or 2 TRACK C” to select your Input for the

Control Room. This input signal can be switched to mono via the “MONO” button or be

dimmed via the “DIM” button.

It can be sent to either the main output by pressing the “MAIN” button or to the Nearfield

output by pressing “NEAR FIELD”. If you press a selected Speakers button again, the led

will flush and the Output will be muted.

7.5.2 Cue Section

On the Phones/Cue Mix 1 /2 area you can select the Inputs Aux9/10,

Aux 11/12 or the Signal on your Main/Nearfield Speakers by pressing

“AUX 9-10”, “AUX 11-12” or “CONTROL ROOM”. Control the

volume of the Phones via the Vpot.

Use the Master Vpot to control the signal on the STUDIO Out jacks. The Signal on the Studio

Out will be the same as on the Speakers (vaild for Logic and Mackie Protocol).

For HUI use the Main Fader to control this audio Output, as this Vpot is used as scroll wheel

for the HUI display section.

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Use the “TALKBACK” button on the monitoring section to send the talkback mic signal to Phones/Cue 1 and 2

and the Studio Out. Control your Mic Level with the Vpot “LEVEL” in the Solo/Studio area.

Since Version 2.1.12 it’s possible to use an additional footswitch. Connect your footswitch to the talkback jack

on the back of your d8b.

Note: You can configure the Talkback Button or footswitch to act as switch (latched on/off function) or as a

button (Talkback as long as you keep the button pressed). Additional you can configure an automatic Speaker

DIM when pressing the talk button. Details see probox configuration: chapter 7.2 (config page 5)

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7.5.3 Signal path of Monitor controller

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7.6 Generic Control functions

The generic controller functions are handled via the 4th USB midi port. To have a match to the MCU Bank

Left/right and channel left/right functions these buttons will also send a signal on the generic USB midi port.

You have to program your DAW for that.

For Cubase such a setup will be available, as I will do that for my setup.

NOTE: If you disable the Monitor Controller function on the ProBox, you will have these buttons and Vpots as

generic controller (marked in green). For the implementation into your DAW please look to the chapter MIDI

Implementation table

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8 MIDI Implementation Table

Button/Vpot Midi Ch

Midi

Command (hex) (dec) values

Master Vpot Master 1 Control Change (0xB0) 70 112 0-127, 0-0x7F

SOLO/STUDIO Vpot LEVEL 1 Control Change (0xB0) 71 113 0-127, 0-0x7F

PHONES/CUE1 VPOT LEVEL 1 Control Change (0xB0) 72 114 0-127, 0-0x7F

PHONES/CUE2 VPOT LEVEL 1 Control Change (0xB0) 73 115 0-127, 0-0x7F

CONTROL ROOM SPEAKER LEVEL 1 Control Change (0xB0) 74 116 0-127, 0-0x7F

Main-Meterbridge Cubase (logarithmic) L 1 Control Change (0xB0) 75 117 0-127, 0-0x7F

Main-Meterbridge Cubase (logarithmic) R 1 Control Change (0xB0) 76 118 0-127, 0-0x7F

Main-Meterbridge (linear) L 1 Control Change (0xB0) 77 119 0-127, 0-0x7F

Main-Meterbridge (linear) R 1 Control Change (0xB0) 78 120 0-127, 0-0x7F

Assign Ch01[Automation read] 1 NoteOn (0x90) 0 0 127(0x7F) on, 0 off










Assign Ch11[Automation read] 1 NoteOn (0x90) 0A 10 127(0x7F) on, 0 off

Assign Ch12[Automation read] 1 NoteOn (0x90) 0B 11 127(0x7F) on, 0 off

Assign Ch13[Automation read] 1 NoteOn (0x90) 0C 12 127(0x7F) on, 0 off

Assign Ch14[Automation read] 1 NoteOn (0x90) 0D 13 127(0x7F) on, 0 off

Assign Ch15[Automation read] 1 NoteOn (0x90) 0E 14 127(0x7F) on, 0 off

Assign Ch16[Automation read] 1 NoteOn (0x90) 0F 15 127(0x7F) on, 0 off









Write Ch01[Automation Write] 1 NoteOn (0x90) 18 24 127(0x7F) on, 0 off


Write Ch03[Automation Write] 1 NoteOn (0x90) 1A 26 127(0x7F) on, 0 off

Write Ch04[Automation Write] 1 NoteOn (0x90) 1B 27 127(0x7F) on, 0 off

Write Ch05[Automation Write] 1 NoteOn (0x90) 1C 28 127(0x7F) on, 0 off

Write Ch06[Automation Write] 1 NoteOn (0x90) 1D 29 127(0x7F) on, 0 off

Write Ch07[Automation Write] 1 NoteOn (0x90) 1E 30 127(0x7F) on, 0 off

Write Ch08[Automation Write] 1 NoteOn (0x90) 1F 31 127(0x7F) on, 0 off


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Write Ch19[Automation Write] 1 NoteOn (0x90) 2A 42 127(0x7F) on, 0 off

Write Ch20[Automation Write] 1 NoteOn (0x90) 2B 43 127(0x7F) on, 0 off

Write Ch21[Automation Write] 1 NoteOn (0x90) 2C 44 127(0x7F) on, 0 off

Write Ch22[Automation Write] 1 NoteOn (0x90) 2D 45 127(0x7F) on, 0 off

Write Ch23[Automation Write] 1 NoteOn (0x90) 2E 46 127(0x7F) on, 0 off

Write Ch24[Automation Write] 1 NoteOn (0x90) 2F 47 127(0x7F) on, 0 off

TRANSPORT 1 1 NoteOn (0x90) 40 64 127(0x7F) on, 0 off










SOLO/STUDIO MIXDOWN SOLO 1 NoteOn (0x90) 4A 74 127(0x7F) on, 0 off

SOLO/STUDIO PFL SOLO 1 NoteOn (0x90) 4B 75 127(0x7F) on, 0 off

SOLO/STUDIO AFL SOLO 1 NoteOn (0x90) 4C 76 127(0x7F) on, 0 off

SOLO/STUDIO TALKBACK TO STUDIO 1 NoteOn (0x90) 4D 77 127(0x7F) on, 0 off

Master SOLO 1 NoteOn (0x90) 4E 78 127(0x7F) on, 0 off

SOLO/STUDIO CLEAR SOLO 1 NoteOn (0x90) 4F 79 127(0x7F) on, 0 off

SOLO/STUDIO SOLO LEVEL 1 NoteOn (0x90) 50 80 127(0x7F) on, 0 off

SOLO/STUDIO STUDIO LEVEL 1 NoteOn (0x90) 51 81 127(0x7F) on, 0 off

SOLO/STUDIO TALKBACK LEVEL 1 NoteOn (0x90) 52 82 127(0x7F) on, 0 off

PHONES 1 AUX 9-10 1 NoteOn (0x90) 53 83 127(0x7F) on, 0 off

PHONES 1 COPY TO MIX 1 NoteOn (0x90) 54 84 127(0x7F) on, 0 off


PHONES 1 CONTROL ROOM 1 NoteOn (0x90) 56 86 127(0x7F) on, 0 off


PHONES 2 COPY TO MIX 1 NoteOn (0x90) 58 88 127(0x7F) on, 0 off


PHONES 2 CONTROL ROOM 1 NoteOn (0x90) 5A 90 127(0x7F) on, 0 off

CONTROL ROOM 2 TRACK A 1 NoteOn (0x90) 5B 91 127(0x7F) on, 0 off

CONTROL ROOM 2 TRACK B 1 NoteOn (0x90) 5C 92 127(0x7F) on, 0 off

CONTROL ROOM 2 TRACK C 1 NoteOn (0x90) 5D 93 127(0x7F) on, 0 off

CONTROL ROOM DIGITAL IN 1 1 NoteOn (0x90) 5E 94 127(0x7F) on, 0 off

CONTROL ROOM DIGITAL IN 2 1 NoteOn (0x90) 5F 95 127(0x7F) on, 0 off

CONTROL ROOM MASTER L-R 1 NoteOn (0x90) 60 96 127(0x7F) on, 0 off

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CONTROL ROOM MONO 1 NoteOn (0x90) 61 97 127(0x7F) on, 0 off

CONTROL ROOM NEARFIELD 1 NoteOn (0x90) 62 98 127(0x7F) on, 0 off

CONTROL ROOM MAIN 1 NoteOn (0x90) 63 99 127(0x7F) on, 0 off

CONTROL ROOM DIM 1 NoteOn (0x90) 64 100 127(0x7F) on, 0 off

CONTROL ROOM TALKBACK 1 NoteOn (0x90) 65 101 127(0x7F) on, 0 off

SETUP GROUP 1 NoteOn (0x90) 66 102 127(0x7F) on, 0 off

SETUP GENERAL 1 NoteOn (0x90) 67 103 127(0x7F) on, 0 off

SETUP PLUGINS 1 NoteOn (0x90) 68 104 127(0x7F) on, 0 off

SETUP DIGITAL I/O 1 NoteOn (0x90) 69 105 127(0x7F) on, 0 off

1-24 LEVEL TO TAPE 1 NoteOn (0x90) 6A 106 127(0x7F) on, 0 off

1-24 DIGITAL TRIM 1 NoteOn (0x90) 6B 107 127(0x7F) on, 0 off

Master Aux 11-12 1 NoteOn (0x90) 6C 108 127(0x7F) on, 0 off

Master Aux 11-12 PAN 1 NoteOn (0x90) 6D 109 127(0x7F) on, 0 off

MASTER 2 NoteOn (0x91) 30 48 127(0x7F) on, 0 off

SHIFT 2 NoteOn (0x91) 31 49 127(0x7F) on, 0 off

1-24 2 NoteOn (0x91) 2E 46 127(0x7F) on, 0 off

25-48 2 NoteOn (0x91) 2F 47 127(0x7F) on, 0 off

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9 Support

If you have problems with your probox, please contact me via email.

I need a detailed problem description:

Checklist Yes/no

Operating system

DAW Software + version

used driver version

Picture/description of connection of the probox

is the system booting ?

does the config menue work?

does the USB Midi ports are available ?

Controller seen by DAW ?

Video of the problem would be great

please describe as detailed as possible the Malfunction of the system

Support email: [email protected]

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10 Warranty

As this is a non commercial product I can give you no warranty. But I will help you with your problems and

support firmware updates if necessary.

Anyhow, if you have a defect, I will fix your problems or exchange your box within a year. If you have problems

or hardware defects afterwards, I can offer cheap repair.

Every ProBox that is delivered is tested for their 100% functionality. How is this done?

I’ve developed a testprogram that checks all communication commands on all four USB ports and the serial

connection to the d8b console. E.g. if you press a button on your d8b it sends out a command via the serial

connection to the probox. The probox translates that to a midi command on USB1-4 and sends this out. All

commands that were supported by the ProBox are checked via this testprogram for every single command. So

you can be sure that you received a 100% working unit.

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11 Changelog

Here you can see the changes of the software updates and manual changes.

From version To version changes

V 1.0 V1.01.13 • generic meterbridge commands added

8.0 midi implementation table

• changes for protocol settings

7.2 protocol settings (Logic/Mackie)

• changelog added

V1.01.13 V1.01.17 • Main/Nearfield output swapped (now matching to the buttons)

• Meterbridge can be switched off (for later d8b Audio use)

• Menu added (Emulation mode two different MCU+2XT, or 3 XT)

• Fader Motor Off and fader send off added

• Receive and send buffer increased

V1.01.17 V1.01.18 • Baud rate selector

• MTC display also usable for configuration

V1.01.18 V1.01.21 • Meterbridge can be turned off

• Fader filter implemented (to ged rid of the small ghost fader

changes of the d8b)

V1.1.21 V2.01.01 • HUI protocol implemented

V2.01.01

V2.01.09 • HUI protocol finalized, some fader movement bug fixed

V2.01.09 V2.01.12 • Talkback switchable with footswitch via talkback jack

• MTC refresh issue in HUI mode solved

V2.01.12 V2.01.13 • Fader Filter for Reaper implemented to prevent fader movements

on unused channels

V2.01.13 V2.01.17 • Generic Control and Control Room Mode added (mixture of Control

Room and Generic Controller to have a PAN Pot for Generic

Controller). HUI Fader release Bug fixed

V2.01.17 V2.02.03 • added code for additional LCD channel displays

• added LED/Key/Meterbridge Test menu

• added Talk button modes (latched, unlatched and auto DIM)

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V2.02.03 V2.02.04 • Talkback button modes also available on footswitch now

V2.02.04 V2.03.04 • Meterbridge improved

• Fader touch setting added (manual, automatic)

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