UU Investing
Creating wealth from the unknown and unknowable
By Raamdeo Agrawal
December 15, 2010
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Theme 2011
UU Investing
Creating wealth from the unknown & unknowable
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• UU Investing is investing in the unknown &
unknowable (UU i.e. the “world of ignorance”)
• What is UU? = Situation where future states of the
world are unknown
• UU investing = the art of “selecting assets that
will fare well when future states
of the world become known.”
What is UU Investing?
”
“ The real world of investing
often ratchets the level of non-
knowledge into still another
dimension, where even the
identity and nature of possible
future states are not known.
This is the world of ignorance.
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• 3 states of the world – Known (K), Unknown (U),
Unknown & Unknowable (UU)
Understanding K, U and UU
Understanding UU
”
“ The real world of investing
often ratchets the level of non-
knowledge into still another
dimension, where even the
identity and nature of possible
future states are not known.
This is the world of ignorance.
Knowledge of
outcomes
Investment
environment
Stock market relevance
Known
(Risk)
(K)
Outcomes known;
Probabilities known
Distribution of returns known Not very relevant; very
few outcomes have
known probabilities
Unknown
(Uncertainty)
(U)
Outcomes known;
Probabilities
unknown
Distribution of returns
conjectured
Faced by all stock
market investors
Unknown &
Unknowable
(Ignorance)
(UU)
Outcomes unknown;
Probabilities
unknown
Distribution of returns
conjectured
Complementary (i.e. special)
skills rewarded
Profitably exploited
ONLY by intelligent
investors
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Evolution of stocks – from UU to UK to KK
Evolution of investor – from KK to UK to UU
UU Investing in stock markets
• When the future is broadly a
continuity of the past, it
becomes knowable through
research and analysis.
• When the future is
discontinuous from the past,
it enters the realm of the
unknowable, and calls for
unusual judgement, courage
and patience.
Unknowable Key investing skill:
Unusual judgement
Returns:
Omega
Key investing skill: Key investing skill:
Knowable Information access Research and analysis
Returns: Returns:
Market performance at best Alpha
Future -
discontinuous
null set
Facts
to date
Known Unknown
Future -
continuousEvolution
of
sto
ck
s
Evolution of investor
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Past examples of UU investing
UU
UK
KK
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Past examples of UU investing
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Past examples of UU investing
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Past examples of UU investing
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Past examples of UU investing
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Past examples of UU investing
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• In the traditional investing model, portfolio return in
excess of benchmark is called "Alpha".
• We call the very high excess return possible from UU
situations “Omega”.
UU investing for Omega returns
”
“
There are systematic ways to
think about unknowable
situations. If these ways are
followed, they can provide a
path to extraordinary
expected investment
returns. UU investing returns
(omega)
Returns
Traditional investing returns
(alpha)
Market-linked
returns (beta)
Time
Omega
Alpha
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Step 1: Know UU Success Principles (SPs)
Step 2: Look out for UU situations
Step 3: Be aware of the pitfalls
How to go about UU investing
”
“ Clear thinking about UU
situations, which includes prior
diagnosis of their elements, and
relevant practice with
simulated situations, may vastly
improve investment decisions
where UU events are involved.
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SP #1: High asymmetric payoff
Step 1: Know Success Principles
”
“
The opportunity to get a 10 or
100 multiple on your
investment as often as you lose
virtually all of it is
tremendously attractive.
500% Payoff
UU
400%
300%
Uncertainty Positive payoff
200%
Risk 100%
Risk
Uncertainty
UU
Special skills
Negative payoff -50%
-100%
• Higher the challenge, higher the payoff
• Higher the skill, higher the upside payoff, lower the downside
payoff
• Unlimited upside, downside capped at 100%
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SP #2: High level of complementary skills
• Domain knowledge of specific businesses
• Past experience elsewhere (in other companies,
in other industries, or in other geographies)
• Management assessment
• Imagination and unusual judgement
• Conviction and courage to commit the
investment
Step 1: Know Success Principles
”
Alas, few of us possess the skills
to be a real estate developer,
venture capitalist or high tech
pioneer. But how about
becoming a star of ordinary
stock investment? For such
efforts an ideal complementary
skill is unusual judgment.
“
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SP #2: High level of complementary skills (continued)
With complementary skills, the investor moves from
Quadrant C to Quadrant D, earning healthy returns
Step 1: Know Success Principles
”
Alas, few of us possess the skills
to be a real estate developer,
venture capitalist or high tech
pioneer. But how about
becoming a star of ordinary
stock investment? For such
efforts an ideal complementary
skill is unusual judgment.
“
Easy for Others to
Estimate
Hard for Others to
Estimate
Easy for you
to estimate
A. Tough markets;
no excess returns
D. Benefit from the
UU situation using
special skills
Hard for you
to estimate
B. Avoid action;
possibility of
significant loss
C. Potential UU
situation
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Step 1: Know Success Principles
SP #3: Portfolio approach to diversify risks Initial Portfolio
Healthy final portfolio
despite low stock
success ratio
1 1 1 1 1
5
Stock A Stock B Stock C Stock D Stock E Portfolio
Year 0
0.25 0.50 0.75
12.5
510
1
Portfolio
Year 0
Stock A Stock B Stock C Stock D Stock E Portfolio
Year n
Portfolio up 2.5x
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Step 1: Know Success Principles
If none of your investments
looks foolish after the fact, you
are staying too far away from
the unknowable.
“ SP #4: Non-aversion to hindsight criticism
• Non-aversion to hindsight criticism is the core
behavioral principle.
• UU portfolio may offer healthy returns, but several
individual ideas would perform very poorly.
• This creates room for hindsight criticism of these
investment decisions.
SP #5: Long-term outlook and patience • To allow for the UU situation to play out into KK
and for the positive upside to pay off
With time and patience, the mulberry becomes silk.
— Chinese proverb
”
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Step 2: Look for UU situations
Unknowable situations are
widespread and inevitable
“ • Where the future is discontinuous from the past
• In 3 areas: (1) Business (2) Management (3) Valuation
1. Business UU situations
Low history of industry and/or company
Huge size of opportunity with scalability
Technology intensity of business
Change (or scope for change) in regulation
Value migration
Demand J-curve inflexion point
Change in competitive landscape
Turnaround
Discontinuous corporate action
Discontinuous change in operating metrics
”
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Step 2: Look for UU situations
2. Management UU situations
Management with no track record
Change in management
Integrity issues with management
3. Valuation UU situations
Extreme pessimism and optimism in the markets
creates UU situations e.g.
Infosys valuation at the height of dotcom boom
Indian stock valuations at the height of global
crisis in early 2009.
If the events are
unpleasant, it is not clear when
to celebrate their end.
“
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Step 3: Be aware of pitfalls
1. Overconfidence
“If you lack Buffett capabilities, you will get chewed
up as a bold stock picker.”
2. Hindsight criticism
“One might be blamed for a poor outcome if one
invests in ignorance when, in fact, it was a good
decision that got a bad outcome.”
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NTD to TTS Indian Banking Sector: Stocks for 2020
• UU situation: Which bank(s) will deliver superior
stock returns through 2020
• Complementary skills: Clear NTD framework
UU Investing case study
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• Size of opportunity: TTS by 2020 - Ten Trillion Saving
(in dollars, decadal cumulative), 5x last decade
Huge opportunity for financial intermediation
NTD to TTS
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• Asymmetric payoff possibility: - Banking sector profit in 2020 will be 6x 2010
Growth will be even higher for banks with UU potential
NTD to TTS
2010 to 2020 – Business up 5x … and profit up 6x
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• Which stocks to bet on?
Judgement based on several factors including –
Value migration from PSU to private banks
Impact of technology on various banks
Assessment of bank managements
Past profitability analysis
So, the final unusual judgement? …
NTD to TTS
Sh
are
of
Assets
80 75 74
613 15
0%
20%
40%
60%
80%
100%
FY01 FY05 FY10
New pvt banks
Old pvt banks
Foreign banks
PSU banks
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The Final Judgement
1. Buy a small/medium high growth bank – YES BANK
Management with established credentials
Growing at 2x industry growth rate
Branch scale-up plans to increase CASA; expand NIMs
Not among the cheapest banks, but absolute market cap
low compared to size of opportunity and that of peers
2. Buy a large, unpopular bank – CENTRAL BANK
Among top 10 banks by asset size
Recently completed 100% CBS; benefits to accrue
Management focus on margin improvement through
focus on high-yielding retail segment
Not among the cheapest in terms of P/B, but very
attractive in terms of MCap/Assets.
So, the final Alpha, Beta, Omega picture?
NTD to TTS
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The Final Picture
NTD to TTS
UU investing (omega)
Central Bank, Yes Bank
Returns
Traditional investing (alpha)
SBI, HDFC Bank
Market-linked (beta)
Bankex
Time
Omega
Alpha
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• Metals/Mining sector has dominated this year’s Study.
• Low payback ratio (Market cap/Next 5 years’ profits)
remains the most reliable indicator of fastest wealth
creation.
• UU situations offer asymmetric payoffs; these can be
exploited only by investors with complementary skills,
unusual judgement, and no fear of hindsight criticism.
• India’s high linear economic growth will create
exponential business situations – the perfect backdrop
for UU investing.
• TTS – Ten Trillion Dollar Savings through 2020 –
will throw up many UU investing opportunities in
Indian financial services.
In Conclusion
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Wishing you exponential returns in exponential times
with UU investing!
Thank You & Happy Wealth Creating !!