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Page 1: Vintage Airplane - Jun 1978

THE RESTORERS CORNER

By J R Nielander Jr

Its again that time when we start planning for the annual safari to aviators paradise The 26th Anshynual EAA Convention and Fly-In will be held at Wittshyman Field Oshkosh Wisconsin from Saturday July 29 through Saturday August 51978

Your AntiqueClassic Division has again organized a full week of activities for antique and classic airshycraft and their owners These include the judging of the exhibit aircraft and the awarding of trophies in many different classifications Additionally well-known aviation pioneers and outstanding restorers will be recognized at the daytime Interview Circle and the evening Pavilion Program On Thursday evening the Division will present a History of Flight Pageant as the evening air show program The Forums Commitshytee has a full schedule of type club and general inshyterest forums planned These generally include inshyformation on maintenance problems parts availability and substitution modifications specific restoration techniques flight characteristics and aircraft availshyability Additionally there will be forums on techshyniques and procedures applicable to all aircraft These forums are scheduled for a 1 14 hour period and are held in a large meeting tent located next to the AnshytiqueClassic Division Convention Headquarters barn The tent is complete with blackboards rostrum pubshylic address system projection equipment and 250 seats

Again this year we are inviting all type clubs to make the EAA Convention one of their annual fly-in

actiVities Due to the limited parking space available in the Display Aircraft Parking Area we do not plan to park the aircraft by type However we do have the aircraft type signs available so if any type clubs want to have their own row(s) we shall be happy to supply the signs but it will be necessary for them to make arrangements directly with the AntiqueClassic Division Parking Chairman Arthur R Morgan 3744 North 51st Boulevard Milwaukee Wisconsin 53216 before July fifteenth and to police their own rows with their own members starting on Wednesday July 26 and continuing through the entire convention period

While we are talking about the Display Aircraft Parking Area we would like to point out that the EAA Convention is somewhat different from the average fly-in which we usually attend EDUCATION is the basic theme of the EAA Convention and your Antique Classic Division tries to encou rage this theme in both its forums and its Display Aircraft Parking Areas We would appreciate your cooperation in using the Disshyplay Aircraft Parking Area exclusively for parking those aircraft of which you can be justifiably proud of your work or efforts spent in its restoration reconstrucshytion or continued Tender Loving Care mainteshynance In this area we want to display that which we consider excellence in our field and that from which others can learn by close inspection by example and by conversing with the owners and restorers In this area he who is planning to restore an antique or classic aircraft can see what he can expect to achieve and can thereby be fired with enthusiasm In this area photographers can snap the finest collection of the restorers art In this area he who comes to admire historic beauty on wings can savour the excellence of workmanship

In the centerfold of this issue you will find a balshylot for the annual election of Division officers and directors In addition to the candidates nominated by the nominating committee there are spaces for write-in candidates of your choice Please exercise your right to vote and show your officers and direcshytors that you support them or write in the names of those whom you would prefer to see on the Division management team Only with your active response can we determine what is necessary to give you the organization which you want

Don t forget about our membership contest Take all of the membership applicat ions out of your back issues print your name and Division membership number on the back of them and distribute them to your friends and acquaintances who share your interest in vintage aircraft Make sure that you win

a pair of antique goggles for sponsoring five new members and a leather flying helmet for sponsorshying ten new members Dont forget the big prize is a five year free membership to the member who sponshysors the most new members by the end of 1978 Lets see how many helmets and goggles you can win There is no limit

JOINT DIVISIONS MEETING AT EAA HEADQUARTERS

The Officers and Directors of the Antique Classic Division the Warbirds and the International Aeroshybatic Club met on April 29th for the first annual Joint Divisions Meeting Chaired by Paul and Tom Pobershyezny the agenda focused on the state of the divisions and more effective methods of working together in solving problems that are common to all three divishysions Each division is interested in expanding its membership said President Paul in citing an example of how the three groups are unified and it will help us all if we exchange ideas for increasing our membershyship lists The reaction produced a wealth of ideas and suggestions all of which contributed to a highly successful day

Major discussions also developed on the subjects of EAA services to the divisions developments in the FAA (Charlie Schuck was there to explain FAA attitudes and action) participation at Oshkosh and in the museum

The days events proved what Paul Poberezny has long sensed that although the EAA tJas several divishysions it is not divided The special interest groups within the organization of EAA are tightly bonded by their mutual interest in flying and their desire to preserve their own way of doing it

Representing your interests at the meeting were J R Nielander Jack Winthrop Brad Thomas Claude Gray Art Morgan John Turgyan Kelly Viets Dale Gustafson and Bill Ehlen

HELP NEEDED AT OSHKOSH Kate Morgan and Donna Bartlett have requested

assistance for the AntiqueClassic Headquarters Staff at Oshkosh Staff members are involved in the vital function of providing information taking membershyships selling magazines etc If you can help two hours any am or pm write Kate at 3744 North 51st Bouleshyvard Milwaukee WI 53216 or Donna at Box 5156 Lakeland FL 33803

(Photo by Chris Sorensen)

1941 Waco UPF-7 of Liz Winthrop

Editorial Staff

Publisher Paul H Poberezny

Editor David Gustafson

Associate Editors H Glenn Buffington Robert G Elliott AI Kelch Edward D Williams Byron (Fred) Fredericksen

Readers are encouraged to submit stories and photographs Associate Editorships are assigned to those writers who submit five or more articles which are published in THE VINTAGE AIRshyPLANE during the current year Associates receive a bound volume of THE VINTAGE AIRshyPLANE and a free one-year membership in the Division for their efforts POLICY-Opinions expressed in articles are solely those of the authors Responsibility for accuracy in reporting rests entirely with the contributor

ANTIQUECLASSIC DIVISION OFFICERS

PRESIDENT J R NIELANDER JR

PO BOX 2464 FT LAUDERDALE FL 33303

VICEmiddotPRESIDENT JACK WINTHROP

RT 1 BOX 111 ALLEN TX 75002

SECRETARY W BRAD THOMAS JR

301 DODSON MILL ROAD PILOT MOUNTAIN NC 27041

TREASORER E E BUCK HILBERT

8102 LEECH RD UNION1L 60180

William I Ehlen Route 8 Box 506

Tampa Florida 33618

Claude L Gray Ir 9635 Sylvia Avenue

Northridge California 91324

Dale A Gustafson 7724 Shady Hill Drive

Indianapolis Indiana 46274

Richard Wagner PO Box 181

lyons Wisconsin 53148

Ronald Fritz 1989 Wilson NW

Grand Rapids Michigan 49504

John R Turgyan 1530 Kuser Road

Trenton New Jersey 08619

Directors

AI Kelch 7018 W Bonniwell Road

Mequon Wisconsin 53092

Morton W Lester Box 3747

~artinsville Virginia 24112

Arthur R Morgan 3744 N 51st Boulevard

Milwaukee Wisconsin 53216

M C Kelly Viets RR 1 BQX 151

Stilwell Kansas 66085

Advisors

Stan Gomoll 1042 90th Lane NE

Minneapolis Minnesota 55434

Robert E Kessel 445 Oakridge Drive

Rochester New York 14617

Robert A White Box 704

Zellwood Florida 32798

THE VINTAGE AIRPLANE is owned exclusively by EAA AntiqueClassic Division Inc and is published monthly at Hales Corners Wisconsin 53130 Second class Postage paid at Hales Corners Post OHice Hales Corners Wisconsin 53130 and additional mailing oHices Membership rates for EAA Antique Classic Division Inc are $1400 per 12 month period of which $1000 is for the publication of THE VINTAGE AIRPLANE Membership is open to all who are interested in aviation

The VINTAGEAIRPLANE OFFICIAL MAGAZINE

EAA ANTIQUECLASSIC DIVISION INC

of THE EXPERIMENTAL AIRCRAFT ASSOCIATION PO Box 229 Hales Corners WI 53130

CopyrightO 1978 EAA AntiqueClassic Division Inc All Rights Reserved

JUNE 1978 VOLUME 6 NUMBER 6

TABLE OF CONTENTS (Cover Photo by Chris Soresen George S Mennens 1940 Spartan Executive)

The Restorer s Corner by J R Nielander Jr 2 A Stinson by Byron (Fred) Fredericksen 4 World War I Era Replica Plans by Leonard Opdycke 10 Notice of Annual Business Meeting and Election of

Officers and Directors 12 Vintage Album 14 A Harbor For Classics by David Gustafson 16 Restoration Tips by Fred Chew 20 The Baby Cessna 24 Calendar of Events 25 Letters 26

EAA ANTIQUECLASSIC DIVISION MEMBERSHIP o NON-EAA MEMBER - $2000 Includes one year membership in the EAA Antique

Classic Division 12 monthly issues of THE VINTAGE AIRPLANE one year memshybership in the Experimental Aircraft Association and separate membership cards SPORT AVIATION magazine not included

o EAA MEMBER - $1400 Includes one year membership in the EAA AntiqueClassic Division 12 monthly issues of THE VINTAGE AIRPLANE AND MEMBERSHIP CARD (Applicant must be current EM member and must give EAA membership number)

Page 4 Page 16 Page 24

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A STINSON By Byron (Fred) Fredericksen

3240 W Beezewood Lane Neenah Wisconsin 54956

(Photos by the Author unless otherwise noted)

Left Mr J D Berr y right th e author and Stin son N NC 15 165 on an island across th e riv er fro m Nenana Alaska M ay 16 1972 (A ircra ft was landed in 50ft snow with the gea r up 90 miles w est of here in 1947)

What do you think about this my friend asked as he reached across the the table and handed me a color Polaroid photo My mind was still with some home movie films of airplanes we had just viewed when he spoke and I really only half heard what he had sa id The autumn Alaska air was cool even in the cabin as I shuffled my feet to a more comfortshyable position gulped some freshly brewed coffee and gazed at this photo As I began to realize what I was looking at I answered I didnt think any of these existed anymore My host then said Well this one does it is mine and I wanted you to know about it as I may dispose of it maybe there is still some work to do

I got a magnifying glass from my briefcase and studied the photo in detail The photo was of good quality but was taken very late in the day It showed a forest in the arctic twilight with some snow cover and parked in the shadows beneath some huge trees was an airplane A big airplane It had three engines on it complete with cowling and propellers The wheels and tires were removed but the gear was down and the airplane was mounted in this position on a very large log frame skid The fuselage top and windshield was covered with a canvas The tail group was visible as were the wing struts It was of course a low wing Stinson tri-motor airliner all complete except that the outboard sections of the

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wings were removed I had a hundred questions to ask but thought better of it I poured some more coffee and listened to a tale about which one should write a book then make a movie As my friend reshyvealed his story of where this airplane was when he found it why it got there how he moved it to its present location and what sti ll remained to be done to get it out of the wilderness I realized a once in a lifetime adventure was unfolding here

Some readers will by now know my friend with the photo was Mr J D Berry for he briefly wrote of and had a photo of this subject Stinson in an Antique Airplane Association magazine some years ago This was 1970 when he informed me of this airshyplane and told me his story Ever since then I have been hoping he would write a complete story about his ten year ordeal to recover this rare bird He has not chosen to do so as of this date nor will I write of the COMPLETE story here I would however like to share the portion of this adventure in which I was personally involved along with some rare photos I took for those interested in Stinson history

I have always had a special interest in the Stinson airplane Twenty years ago I bought my first Stinson It was a 108-1 model Voyager I owned three other 108 series after that and some of the most pleasurable hours I have ever spent flying was in the left front seat of a Stinson Gull Wing I onee owned The publicashytion entitled THE STINSONS by John W Underwood is an excellent reference for the Stinson buff It contains good photos and history of all three models of tri-motors built by the Stinson Company In another of Mr Underwoods books titled THE VINTAGE AND VETERAN AIRCRAFT GUIDE there appears on page 42 a model A tri-motor with a caption which states N15165 is the last surviving model A N15165 is the airshyplane in the photos on these pages There is also a fine discription of the model A Stinson ATC 556 in Mr Joseph P Juptners book titled U S CIVIL AIRshyCRAFT VOL 6 I have not read where anyone has stated the exact number of these models produced It seems however some 35 were manufactured of which the prototype was first flown in mid 1934 with the bulk of production in 1935 and 36 Production had ceased by 1937 and by this time the As were operatshying in many foreign countries as well as in the US namely by American Airlines Central Airlines Delta and others I can ju st barely remember seeing these airplanes when I was a kid and I have always thought the A was a very hand some airplane The model A specifications and performance data were very impressive for it s time and they were well built

Arrival a t th e village of Nena na (Note huge tu g boats req uired to move the se barges and their cargo)

(My associates and I are rebuilding a 1931 high wing Stinson tri-motor at present which is the same type construction as the A with 4130 ClM welded steel tubing fuselage as well as wing spars welded up with same material into a truss) Ribs are square aluminum tubing The only wood used is for fairings here and there But then these fine aircraft like so many others of the past gave way to the more modern method of construction such as used on the Boeing 247 and Douglas DC-2 and 3 series with all the rivits and shiny aluminum

I will be brief here with the events involving the recovery of N15165 and its subsequent rebuild as I do not wish to steal the present owner s thunder or former owners should either ever decide in the future to do a complete story of this interesting adventure

Going back to 1970 at J D s home where he first showed the photo we speculated on what the airplane might be worth I have always felt any antique was worth what some one might pay for it However thi s airplane might well be the last of its kind Then two things happen one you can begin to justify the time and dollars spent to recover it and second one can dictate the selling price If it is the only one and the prospective buyer gives you a hard time on your price simply ask him to check around on the price of these models for sa le and if he cannot make a better deal come back and see me J D indicated what he might wish to take for it however we did not make any deal at that point in time Later when I was back home in Wisconsin I w as given a price which included the airp lane being brought out to civilizat ion where one could drive a vehicle to it At the tim e I was shown a photo of the airplane which was about halfway on its middotalmost one hundred mile trip from its original loca tion sight to the nea rest road J D had all hi s equipment in the bush at the Stinson site This included a D-8 Caterpillar equipped with a dozer blade a huge sled on skids which conshytained many fifty gallon drums of fuel and oil two five ton co me alongs snowmobile many parts and hand tools and the two airpl ane wings Along with

Unloading a t Union Oil Co Dock (A magnifying g lass will make visible 75765 on the rudder )

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Th e la st pull 10 C olde n Vall e y Electric In c sub station enclosure

these he had built a six foot by twelve foot cabin for shelter mounted on skids for pulling This home away from home is called a Wanigan He would go ahead with the Cat and clear a few hundred yards of timber along the route he chose through the bush and over the ridges come back and hook up his train airplane sled and Wanigan and then unhook again and clear another path and so on The only catch to this process was that this had to be done in the winter months only as the unfrozen tundra would not hold up the Cat in the summer months And what with the break downs problems with starting and operating a diesel engine in fifty degree below zero weather uncertain ice thicknesses to cross over rivers coupled with very few hours of daylight that time of year in Alaska one wonders if any price is worth that A man all alone in this type of operation could get himself killed In fact the Cat did go through the ice once He got it free all by himshyself Another time be broke a foot in a mishap and laid in the Wanigan in that condition for ten days before a refueling plane he had ordered found him Talk about a dedicated antiquer Once again would this story not make an interesting movie And all it would require was a one man cast

I accepted J Ds asking price and had in fact made a deal with a third party here in the Lower 48 to acquire it I might add that was the first and last time I will ever be the in between man on a deal like this it cost me a very good friend and one cannot put a dollar value on that One cannot state he lost money he never had however I was offered thirty thousand dollars more for the airplane than I got for it while it was still in Alaska but then thats water over the dam I really was not in this for money J D and I only wanted to see this A find a good home and people that would rebuild her and fly it again And I understand it is being rebuilt at this time in a very professional manner

Anyway due to an almost inhuman effort the man

Dick Stouffer photo) The Stinson obviou sly required a little more than a wash and paint job

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the cat airpl ane sled and Wani gan aft e r two winters of work arriv ed on an island across th e river fro m Nenana A las ka about sixty mil es be low Fairb ank Thi s w as M ay 1972 And the ice w as b rea king up in th e swift sprin g current I ca n im ag in e J D stand in g ther e on th e b ank thinkin g if I wa~ ju st a w ee k earli er I coul d cross to th e road into town He w alked across th e ice leavin g everythin g o n th e island and advi sed me of the situ ation M eanwhil e som ethin g was takin g pl ace abo ut th at time in th at th e milit ary at Ft W ainwri ght had rece ived so m e fl y in g cranes (cargo heli copters) Th ese anim als co ul d do in a few minutes wh at takes us mo n ths in terms of moving th e tri-moto r A ft er mon ths of ca ll s pro mi ses lett ers etc w e fin all y gave up o n th e U S A rm y (The pres ident of EAA even tri ed to help but to no ava il ) I fin all y fl ew up to J D s pl ace and we worked o ut a meth od to ge t th e airp lane across th e ri ve r

Th ere was a Barge Lin e Co mpany w hi ch wint ered in N enana and w as by now ready ing the ir tu gs and barge s fo r th e summ er season of hauling fu e l and equipment to th eir custo mers vi a th e river hi ghways in Al as ka The re equipm ent is mu ch the sa me as th e tu gs and ba rges w e see o perating o n th e M iss iss ippi Tbeir base w as a sho rt d istance down strea m f ro m the Stin son site on th e island J D spo ke to them and a pri ce was agreed o n to pu sh a ba rge to th e island ti e unto th e sho re and give us a day to buil d a ramp to th e barge and load our ca rgo J D and I hired a loca l fe ll ow w ith a boa t to take us aro un d to th e bac k of th e island and we t hen spe nt five days cutting b ru sh and dragg in g every thin g to th e w ater s edge whil e w aitin g for o ur ship Th e tu g and barge ca m e in sight o n th e fi f th day but th e current was 50 st rong the tu g los t steerage and th e ba rge woun d aro un d th e tu g and fl oa ted down stream Th e crew w e nt af te r it and th e nex t day m ade it a ll th e w ay Th ey pu shed int o shore as c lose as poss ibl e and tossed heavy ca bl es as ho re whi ch we clamped aro und tree stumps w e had cut Th e crew pulled the barge with th e pow er win ches Th ey left with th e tu g aft e r th e Capt ain re min ded us he d id not w ant th e dec k o f th e barge to rn up by th e ca t W e w ere to pl ank th e tr ac ks I forgo t ho w m any million s o f doll a rs h e sa id th e ba rge co st And dont smo ke on it because th e even foo t d eep ho ld is full o f fu el fumes

W e go t ri ght to wo rk J D pu shed ton s o f dirt and trees into the ri ve r between th e sho re and th e barge Half o f it washed aw ay but fin all y enough logs and trees w ere cri ss -crossed and thi s base began to hold th e mud and dirt and soon w e had a ramp

(whi c h continued to w as h awa y) W e imm ediate ly began to pull everythin g o n board In a co upl e o f hours w e w ere all loaded ju st as our ramp vani shed What a good fee ling w e had Thi s w as 1972 M r Berry start ed thi s pro jec t a hun d red mil es away bac k i n 1961 Th e tu g captain sent a sm all boa t for us as w e w ere no t to sleep o n the ba rge

The nex t day the tu g brou ght o ur p reciou s ca rgo down strea m to th e r iv er dock of th e Uni o n O il Company M r Co ghill own er of thi s Co mpany was kin d eno ugh to le t us co mpl etely tear up hi s ya rd w ith th e ca t in th e unl oa din g process J D straightened th e ya rd o ut later w ith th e doze r b lade We pull ed everythin g to a dirt side street out of everyon es w ay and wondered where w e could store the airplan e

We d iscove red an aba ndoned e lec t r ic company powe r sub stati o n at th e edge o f town It had a cyc lo ne fence aro und it with a ga te and loc k W e found th e own e r to be Gold en Vall ey Electri c Assoc iation Inc whose offi ce was in Fairbanks W e w ent there saw Mr Boyd Ro bert s as ked and w ere given permi ss io n to use th e Nenana Station for a month signed a hol d harmless agreement and return ed to Nenan a Th en w e reali zed w e had to cross two set s of railroad trac ks with th e ca t and the airpl ane You ju st don t run a c rawler pulling an eight thou sa nd pound load on rou gh log kids across anoth er mans railro ad tracks Afshy

ter much negotiating with the local railroad depot personnel we got the okay to cross th e tracks if w e first built a bridge of planks to run on This we did and pull ed the tri-m o tor up to the pow er station ga te o nly to fi nd the ga te was too small to all ow th e airshypl ane to pass thro ugh W e got so me shove ls d ug down all aro und o ne ga te pos t until w e hit th e huge chunk of con cre te th e po st was ce mented int o Th is w e lifted o ut with th e dozer b lade W e then pull ed the airpl ane in side th e fence repl anted th e ce ment and pos t closed the ga te and locked i t I th en so ught an o ld gentlem en that li ved ac ross th e stree t and gave him some do ll ars in re turn fo r hi s sh OO ing away any peopl e he may obse rve climbing th e fence with an int eres t in o ld airpl anes

Th e nex t day w as spe nt load in g lt1 11 o f J 0 equipmen t o n a ra ilroad fl at-car fo r shi pmen t to Fairshyba nks W e later drove to Fairbanks in J Ds tru ck and too k a mu ch needed res t W e vi sit ed o th e r spots where I observed a compl ete Norse man an d a Gull Win g Stin son rotting o ut side in the element s and suffering hard knocks fr o m snow plows J D also took me to the mu seum at th e U niversit y o f Alas ka where I could have spent a co upl e days Aft er that we too k the airlin e down to An cho rage and vi sited Mr Reddin the curato r o f the Air Transportation Mu se um who gave us a sw ell tour of thi s institution

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(Dick Souffer phoo)

itting tab A into slot B is no easy task in a rebuild of his size

(Dick 5rouffer ph 00)

The monumental task is nearing comp letion and may be flying when you read this

This musellm and its contents has since burned to the ground

I then said goodbye to J D and spent the next six and a half hours inhaling Vodka martinis on a non stop jet to Chicago

The tri-motor was picked up by semi truck along with a new set of wings Mr Berry had aquired that went with the deal The airplane is being rebuilt in Crvsta Lak~ Wisconsin and should flv this summer Perh rt ps some day J D and I may watch it fly at sClIe antique meet

F-or the record Stinson NC15165 was manufactured under ATC 556 model A serial No 9125 Engines were Lycoming (3) model R-680-5 260 hp each engines serials were Rt 2-1292 Lt 2-1400 ten 2-1290 Number of crew and passengers 9 PCLM

Delivered to original owner February 28 1936 American Airlines Inc 4848 West 63 Street Chicago Illinois

Ship damaged at Washington D C on June 8 1936 when a drunk drove a car into the tail while th e ship was parked near a hanger at the Washington ai rport

On November 2 1939 the total time on thi s aircraft was given as 223403 hours

Sold to Lavery Airways William L Lavery Fairshybanks Alaska April 27 1940

Sold to Raymond I Peterson DBA Ray Peterson Flying Service Anchorage Alaska September 14 1942

Sold to Ray Peterson Flying Service Raymond I Peterson Marie Antoinette Peterson Glen I Dillard Anchorage Alaska April 26 1944

Crashed November 1947 No details given On February 19 1948 so ld to Northern Conshy

so lidated Airlines Inc Box 1439 Anchorage Alaska Remarks Delivered to American Airlines M arch 2 1936

NC Licenses iss ued to expire 3-1-37 3-1-38 3-15-39 and 11-15-40 On 11-14-40 license NC-15165 approved for one year Aircraft disapproved for license on 10-30-42 due to bad original fabric Ship approved for license on 5-15-43 for one year

The next chapter is for Mr J D Berry to write should he wish to do so

For five years now I have sought and acquired what I believe is a complete listing of every serial number of the Stinson A models produced I followed one rumor and found some bones of an A model I believe there are two more in existence in what condition I do not know however I am going to find out Who knows

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WORLD WAR I ERA REPLICA PLANS

Compiled by Leonard Opdycke

15 Crescent Rd Poughkeepsie NY 12601

Reprinted WWI Aeroplanes

FOR YOUR INFORMATION (Abb reviations used below H = H awker-S iddel ey Avishyation Ltd Richmond Road Kingston-upon-Thames KT2 5QS UK (Attn j Crampton Deputy Sales Mgr L50 per set of drawings for anyone aircraft)

W = Wright-Patterson AFB OH 45433 (Attn Verna M Frazier Freedom of Information Manager Adminishyst rati on Office Headquarters Aeronautical Systems Div) (AFSC) Antoinette

4 sheets of the German Albatross-b uilt version drawn by Gabriel-Sales Desk National Museum of Science and Technology 1867 St Laurent Boulevard Ottawa Ontario K1A OM8 Canada

Bellanca 1912 shyComplete set of drawings $4000 - Mike Murphy 4923 West 99 Oak Lawn Illinois 60453

Berchman B-2 Scout (1918) W (Can 482)

Bleriot XI Complete set of drawings instructions $1500 -Mel Miller 2030 Geary Albany Oregon 97321

Complete set in BUILDING AN AEROPLANE by C B Hayward 1912 rep rinted by Kings Box 17646 Nashville Tennessee 37217 ($350)

Bristol F2B A few miscellan eous drawings not enough to build from many structura l photos parts and rigging manuals operating manual - LEO WWI AEROPLANES

Bristol Scout A A xerox copy of the 500 - ser ies of drawings from Frank Barnwells own notebook (not for sale maybe recopy) - LEO WWI AEROPLANES

Bristol Scout D Many 8 x 10 sheets cop ies from orig in al Bristol factory drawings enough to build from (not for sa le maybe recopy) - LEO WWI AEROPLANES

Curtiss JN4 series jN4(Can) 35mm microfilm roll - Ken Hyde RD 1 Warrenton VA 22186

jN4D Ken Hyde (above) from Canadian Aeroplane Company Ltd Can 66 - W Air Force Museum Wright Patterson AFB Dayton OH (not same as W above) 20 sheets 17 x 22 ga and structure from factory drawings - Charles F Schultz 910 Broadfields Drive Louisville KY 40207 23 draWings incomplete but good coverage shyGordon E Codding 4572 W 147 Street Lawnshydale California Rep rinted operating m anual $3 00 - Aviation Publi cat ion s 2036 Ludin gton Avenue Milwaukee Wisconsin

jH4 From Curtiss-Wright Aeroplane and Motor Corp Can 495 - W

Curtiss 0-1 XO-1 0-2 W (Can 301)

Curtiss Pusher 34 x 48 plate showin g co nst ruction of 1910 Curtiss A-frame $1000 Herbert L Kelley 56424 Hand ley Road Yucca Valley CA 92284

Set of drawings developed from orig inal Curtiss prints $2500 Charles F Schu ltz (above)

Co mplete set fOf construction - Mel Miller (above)

Co mplete set in BUILDING AN AEROPLANE Kings (above) - but note 468 for Charles Willards cautionary note o n using these plans

Chanute Hang Glider jack Lambie 115B Merrimac Drive Anaheim California 92807

DeHaviliand 4 Dayton-Wright Aeroplane Corp (DH4 DH4B) shyW (Can 195)

Miscellaneous drawings from AF Museum (above) Fisher Body (DH4) - W (Can 191)

DeHaviliand 99A Few drawings including float models - Colin A Owers Box 241 Quirindi NSW 2343 Australia

Fokker DVII BLUE MAX DVII drawings - Harold Best-Devershyeux 11 Stonehills House Welwyn Garden City Herts UK

11 plates 34 x 48 for 1601180 Mercedes versions $11000 Herbert L Kelley (above)

AF Museum (above) 11 plates 34 x 54 $12100 with raw materials and parts to be available later - Stolp Starduster Corporat ion 4301 Twining Riverside Calif

Fokker DVIII Full set from Platz original sketches for Warner powered reproduction s E D Swearingen 40 Monee Road Park Forest Illinois

AF Museum (above) Dan-San Abbott (in process of entry for Roland DVI below)

Fokker Drl Brochure $200 and full set of working drawings for Warner reproductions Walter W Redfern Route 1 Athol Idaho 83801

10 sheets done towards a complete set each $400 plus spar and rib sets fiber-glass cowls - Ron Sands RD 1 Mertztown PA 19539

Fokker EI 1 plate 22 x 30 1 to 1 for full sca le detail f ly in g model $1000 Herbert L Kelley (above)

Fokker EIII 25 9 x 7 photos of structure of Kensington Science Museum EIII $2500 plus $100 po stage - Ed Brannon 1405 Marcella NE Albuquerque NM 87112

Fokker VI 8 plates 17 x 22 1110 sca le structure developed from photos and historical data (of 44) $2500shyHerbert L Kelley (above)

1 plate 34 x 54 1110 scale for 26 span model $1000 - Herbert L Kelley (above)

Macchi-Hanriot HD1 Drawings $12000 - Chris j Warrilow 141 Chairshyborough Road Hi gh Wycombe Bucks U K

Nieuport 17 Rozendaal drawings - Fred Kom Losy 725 Robin Way North Palm Beach Florid a 33408

Air Force Museum (above) 3 sheets $225 - National Museum of Science and Technology (above)

Nieuport 24 Walt Redford (above)

Nieuport 27 Fred Kom Losy (above) Gordon E Codding (above)

Nieuport 28C1 Air Force Museum (above)

Pfalz Dill Darnell Sitton 1925 N Vermont Avenue 7 Los Angeles CA 90027

Pfalz DXII Set of 30 fine 5 x 7 photos of the EAA Museums DXI I under reconstruction $2000 (a ircraft on permanent loan from National Air and Space Museum) Ben Owen EAA Museum Box 229 Hales Corners WI 53130 ($1500 for EAA members)

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RAF Se5A 32 photos as above $2000 ($1500 to EAA memshybers) - Ben Owen EAA Air Museum (above)

Drawings for 85 scale all-wood reproduction - Replica Plans 953 Kirkmond Crescent Richshymond BC CANADA

Air Force Museum (above) Gordon E Codding (above) Complete set from which RAF Museum ship was rebuilt - Public Records Office Chancery Lane London UK (See Note below also)

Roland DVlab 5 sheets 34 x 44 fully detailed $5000 plus postage $350 (these fine drawings reviewed this issue p2) - Dan-San Abbott 25886 Gettysburg Avenue Hayward CA 94545

Pomilio W Can 66

Sopwith Bl Baby Bulldog Buffalo Camel Condor Cuckoo Dolphin Dove Dragon Gnu Gun Bus Hippo Pup Rainbow Ram Rhino Salamander Snail Snapper Snipe 112 Strutter Swallow Tabloid Triplane

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Sopwith Camel Air Force Museum (above) Gordon E Codding (above) Clayton amp Shuttleworth drawings of F1 Some 2F1 200 drawings for $144 Chris J Warrilow (above)

Sopwith Pup GordonE Codding (above) Air Force Museum (above) 72 drawings 18 x 24 $162 00 - Smithsonian Institution Washington DC

Sopwith Triplane (110 Clerget) Clayton amp Shuttleworth drawings about 100 for $7200 Chris Warrilow (above)

S Wieser Dir Plantetarium Clagary Parks Departshyment Box 2100 Calgary Alberta Canada

Sopwith Miscellaneous Types (SS SSD2 SPGN 150 hp Smith D3 S STS STD D2 DS frS 225 Sunbeam frS 220 hp Seaplane 2FR2 50 Gnome Biplane)

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Sopwith-Kauper Gun Gear H

Spad 7 Air Museum (above) Gordon E Codding (above) Jack Hickey 1659 Willis S St Paul Minn 55705shy20 sheets for $7500

Spad 13 Gordon E Codding (above)

Sperry Messenger W (Can 289)

Standard 11 Air Force Museum (above)

Thomas-Morse S4C Air Force Museum (above) Gordon E Codding (above)

Wright Gliders 4 plates 1899 Kite 17 x 22 1900-01-02 Gliders 110 sca le 34 x 48 total $3500 - Herbert L Kelley (above)

Wright Flyer 1903 Master drawings made for construction of Kitty Hawk Memorial reproduction 21 sheets for $2200 (make check payable to Cooper-Trent) - Louis S Casey Cu rator Aircraft amp Aeronautics National Air amp Space Museum Washington DC 20560)

Notes Complete drawings for display or building the Spandau LMGO-8-15 mig 3 x 6Vz - Ray Hollings 338054 Street San Diego CA 92105

RAE TECH MEMO 4 This catalog is subtitled

The EAA Aviation Museum is now the proud owner

Catalogue of Original Tracings of Aircraft and Engines Designed and Built by the RAE 1911-1918 assembled by Wing Commander NHF Unwin from Public Records Office Chancery L ne London UK Drawings are listed by aircraft type subject of drawing and drawing number any can be bought separately The SE5A set is complete (of RAF SE5A above) Types for which at least some drawings are available

Bristol Scout Bristol F2B Cierva Autogyro DH1-69-10 Hamble Baby Handley-Page 0400

V-1500 Short 225 320 Sopwith 1 Pup Triplane

Camel Snipe Dolphin

RAF BE1-5 7-1012 RAF CE1 RAF FE1-9 12 RAF NE1 RAF HAM I RAF Hydro-Aeroplane 17 RAF HRE 2 RAF RE1 3 5-9 RAF BS1 RAF SE1 2 4 4a 5 5a RAF TE1

EAAs Aviation Museum has built a replica of its own the Ryan NX-211 Spirit of SI Louis its also sponsored construction of this replica Wright Flyer at the Blackshyhawk Technical Institute in janesville Wisconsin

of this replica Fokker DR-I Triplane which was built and shydonated by Robert H Fergus of Columbus Ohio The white paint scheme on this replica was used by Lt Hans Weiss who flew with von Richtoffen

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planes fighters up through transportw Brad Thomas JrNotice of Annual Business Meeting C-54sPilot Mountain North Carolina Today he holds a commercial licenseand Manufacturer with single and multi-engine land and Born in High Point North CarolinaElection of Officers and Directors instrument ratings and remains actively

Brad was educated at McCallie School flying with his Gyrocopter and VW powshyNotice is hereby given that an annual business Chattanooga Tennessee MIT Camshy ered Scamp both built by him a Moonshy

meeting of the members of the EAA AntiqueClassic bridge Massachusetts and High Point ey for travel and a D-17R Staggerwing Division will be held on Saturday August 5 1978 at College His flying career began at the He is currently Secretary of the Antique

age of 16 when he soloed and obtained1030 AM (Central Daylight Time) at the 26th Anshy Classic Division of EAA Oshkosh Conshynual Convention of the Experimental Aircraft Associashy his private license in 1938 The advent vention Classic Awards Chairman and tion Inc Wittman Field Oshkosh Wisconsin of World War II encouraged his enlistshy Chief Judge Secretary and Treasurer

Notice is hereby further given that the annual ment in the Army Air Corps as a pilot of EAA Chapter 8 Greensboro N C election of officers and directors of the EAA Antique He graduated from British Flying Trainshy Vice-President of EAA Antique ChapshyClassic Division will be conducted by ballot disshy ing School No5 Clewiston Florida with ter 3 and a member of their executive tributed to the members along with this June issue of both Air Corps and RAF wings was transshy committee Br-ad and his wife Ferne The Vintage Airplane Said ballot must be returned ferred to the 7th Ferry Group Air Transshy have five children of which one is an properly marked to the Ballot Tally Committee EAA port Command Great Falls Montana active oilot AntiqueClassic Division Box 229 Hales Corners where he ferried most types of Air Corps Wisconsin 53130 and received no later than August 3 1978

Ronald Fritz Chairman Nominating Committee

W Brad Thomas Jr Secretary the acquisition of his private pilot li shyEAA AntiqueClassic Division cense he immediately bought and reshy

stored his first airplane a 1946 Cessna AI Kelch 140 N72323 which had been used as Mequon Wisconsin a trainer at South Dayton Airport In

Manufacturer1953 he rebuilt and restored 1946 Cessna AI -started his own company in 1950 140 N73018 and flew it during the reshy

mainder of 1953 and 1954 During this The Kelch Corp which is now a conshysame period J R bought an extensively glomerate of 5 small manufacturing comshydamaged 1949 Cessna 170A N9730A and panies in the industrial plastic field completely rebuilt and restored it inshy AI s interest in airplanes goes back cluding splicing the parts of two fuseshy to his childhood in the 1920s when he

would sit on his fathers lap and fly iniages together to make one With the completion of the Cessna his uncles Jenny whenever the Jenny

170A in early 1955 he flew to Florida came to town barnstorming where he was hired as an AampP by the He is a lifetime member of EAA and

local Cessna distributor Sunny South AAA He was president of the WisconshyAircraft Service Later that same year sin Chapter of AAA for two terms and he joined Pan American World Airways a director of AntiqueClassic Division as a co-pilot flying Convair 240s Since of EAA for two terms He served as edishythen he has flown Douglas DC-4 6 7C tor of The Vintage Airplane magazine from

January 1976 until February 1978 8 Boeing 707 and 720 aircraft Besides J R Nielander Jr He currently owns and flies a 1939 his ATR and mechanic tickets he also Fort Lauderdale FL Piper J3 Cub which he completely re-Pan Am Pilot J R was elected vice-president of the

holds a flight navigator license stored in 1968 and a 1939 Franklin Sport

By the time he learned to fly at Lakeshy AntiqueClassic Division at its organizashy biplane which he restored in 1969 A wood Airpark Mount Healthy Ohio tional meeting on November 6 1971 1931 Travel Air 12Q will be flying this

summer and two American Eaglets and in 1951 J R had already completed He held that office until he was elected five years of university study as well president by the Board of Directors at an E2 Cub are his current restoration as one year of graduate school With their meeting on February 5 1976 projects

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Morton W Lester Martinsville Virginia Builder-Developer and Real Estate Investor

Morton is President of The Lester Corshyporation and Vice-President of Motor Imports Inc He is Executive Vice-Presishydent of the Virginia Aeronautical Hisshytorical Society and a board member of several other civic governmental busishyness and humanitarian organizations Morton was soloed by his father at the age of 10 in a Piper Cub He currently owns several prototype antiques such as the Ryan SCW Davis Low Wing Aeronca and Johnson Rocket His curshyrent ship is a civilian Howard DGA-15P He also owns a rare Travel Air 6000B which is currently undergoing restorashytion under the careful expertise of his cousin Pete Covington Morton is a Trustee of the EAA Air Museum Foundashytion and a past chairman of the Classic Judging Team of Oshkosh He is past president and current member of the executive committee of EAA Chapter 395 (NC Sc amp Va Antique Airplane Foundation) Morton and his wife Marshygaret have three children

M C Kelly Viets Stilwell Kansas Consulting Engineer Self-Employed

Kelly entered the consulting engineer field in 1938 and spent World War II designing airports and base facilities for the U S government He started his own firm Viets Consulting Engishyneers in 1954 He is a registered proshyfessional engineer and holds membershyship in numerous professional societies Kelly spent a lot of his younger days around Kansas City Municipal and Fairshyfax airports seeing Benny Howards Ike make its first flights the Travel Air Mystery Ship on the way to Cleveshyland all the early airliners etc He startshyed flight instruction in 1938 in a 55 hp Porterfield and finally got his ticket on the GI Bill in 1946 Kelly and his wife Edna own an Ercoupe and the two of them started and manage the Internashytional Ercoupe Association Their monthshyly newsletter goes out to over 550 Ershycoupe enthusiasts around the world Kelly also owns and is restoring the 14shy12 Bellanca that was used as the protoshytype for the 14-13 series He is a Director of EAAs Antique-Classic Division Kelly and Edna have 3 children

Art Morgan Milwaukee Wisconsin Oster Service Division

Art Morgan began flying in 1961 and received his private license in 1962 In 1965 he went on to get his commercial rating

He has been a member of EAA since 1962 and was parking airplanes at Rockshyford Illinois

Art was one of the first to start buildshying a KR-1 and although he did not complete his project he was instrumenshytal in the completion of two of the little birds

In 1974 he and his wife Kate purchased a 1939 Luscombe 8-C which he promptly rebuilt After two years of flying the Lusshycombe Art and several friends organshyized the American Luscombe Club

Art has served the EAA as a museum volunteer for several years as Classic parking chairman at Oshkosh and also as Antique-Classic parking chairman

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I Pioneer Northwest pilot Eclith Fol tz lVel 1 neltive of Dallas maiden name - 1agali She learned to I) in Portlaml Oregon Fel)(uar) of l)l8

l IJdrntormecl a long-wing Edglerock (OX-5) middotkCfuirec License 5nOO and lVas th e fifth US wOlllan to ohtain the Transport rlIing

J Barnstorming the Northwest - Pilot Greenwood in a Ryan Brougham and Edith in the OX-5 Eaglerock

4 Edith placed second in the light-plane division of the first Nashytional Womens Air Derby 1929 Santa Monica to Cleveland flying an Alexander Eaglerock Bullet (Kinner engine) Charter member of the 99s

5 May 1930 - Edith christening The Romer new five-passenger airplane manufactured by the National Aircraft Corp Beavershyton Oregon

Vintag The Flying life

Compile (Special thanks to Paulin sharing Edith Sterns scr

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1 I Edith Stearns in structed Naval and Kingsv ille TX after WWII with Pauline Glasson Decease

Album m es of Edith Foltz Stearns ~ I enn Bu ff ington on of Co rp us Chr isti Texas fo r ( w ith us - also to I B Decker the photos)

ts in ins trum ent flying at Corpus Christi eel the 52 and 53 Powder Puff Derbies 956 ending a brillidnt flying career

Edith served as th e first Northwest Section Governor of the 99s - and she also w as Oregon Governor of the National Aeronautics Assn in the ea rl y ]Os She flew a Kinner Bird in the 3 7 and 32 derbies both from Sa nta Monica to Cleveland (4th in 3 7 and 2nd in 32 in th e women s division)

7 Edith and her son Richard Foltz age 6 in 793 7 a t Portland Oregon

8 7932 a t Cleveland Na tiona l Air Races (L to R) Vio la Gentry G ladys ODonn ell Florence Klingensmith Frank Phillips Edith Foltz Stearns and Frances Marsalis taken with Phillips Woolshyaroc Trophy Edith flew th e Bird to 2nd place in the Amelia Earhart Trophy Race (pylons) 1932 Klingesmith was first in a Monoco upe

9 Sk irts ~a flyin Edith Foltz Stea rns models one or her trade-marked FoIZLIp flying lOgs which eas il y converted to st reet wear - 7 932

I O Edith managed a new feeder airl in e a t Portshyland dnd taught prim ary CPT at Salem prior to WWII - se rved in En g land as a Firs t Officer in the Air Tran sport Aux iliary here in uniform

(Fred Chew photo)

Bills Cessna 140 slips through a quick left turn in a test of-rhe new splas h rails

A Harbor for Classics By David Gustafson Editor

Some fo lks would argue that Bali Hi is a mythical Island out in the South Pacific where the best in life is an everyday affair There are a few peoplehowshyever who would be inclined to suggest that the protoshytype model for Bali Hi can be found on the Southshyeast corner of Stafford Pond in Westport Masshysachusetts Thats where Bill Walsh lives What makes it special Well hes got several acres of land in the secluded inlet of a clear lake He doesn t have palm trees though his Norwegian pines give the same effect on a warm and breezy summer night To improve the natural scene Bill put in a dock laid down some railroad track for a movable ramp that can be winched right into the hangar he erected 200

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feet from the water Naturally there has to be someshything to place in the hangar so Bills lined the walls with tools and bending brakes The space thats left is reserved for his Cessna 140 Floatplane and the Aeronca Sedan hes rebuilding so he can be a twoshyfloatplane family

The Cessna 140 was built in 1948 and sent directly from Wichita to Sea Wings of Connecticut for conshyversion to floats It was then sold with floats and wheels With the stock Continental 85 horsepower engine the plane was marginal as a hot day aquatic performer Getting off the surf with two husky adults when its over 75 degrees out is a groaning process Some of the problem relates to the high speed airshy

foil that works nicely in cruise but does little to generate the kind of take-off lift you get in someshything like a Cub or Champ Even as a ground plane the Cessna requires a long take-off roll

Once airborne however the 140 levels off to a respectable 90 mph with a corkscrew that measures a wide 76 x 38 Bill s hoping to swap the C-85 someday for an 0-200 so he can take up so me of his fat friends in the mint julip season

As fa r as skidding around the pond Bill reports theres very little difference between the 140 and comshyparably sized float planes Of course the take-off runs lon ge r but once airborne (40-45 mph ) it climb s well and flies with much greater stability than a

land model The floats give it a big plane feeling says Bill

Stalls with a floating 140 are similar to the land configuration and intentional spins are strictly verbotten

When Bill bought the plane in 1963 it was on the floats but he couldnt get it off the water The floats leaked Experimentation revealed that the keel opened up on a take-off run so they were replaced Later he added spray rails which eliminated the center wake and brought the plane up onto the step quicker

In the wintertime the floats are replaced with skis and Bill goes out to race the ice boats Between

he floats and the skis the wheels havent been on the 140 for several years now When he wants to bounce around a paved runway he heads off to Fall River Airport haul s out a 170-B (of which he owns 1115th) and renews his acquaintance with toe brakes and squealing rubber

Like a growing number of people in EAA Bill divides his time between flying one project and tinkershying with another Hes lucky enough to have an Aeronca 15 AC Sedan as that other project He picked it up a couple years ago at a price that would take the wind out of some people Ask anyone who knows Bill or his close friend Fred Chew and theyll tell you that those two guys deserve a special suit that says SUPER-SCROUNGERS across the chest They have uncanny talents at picking up materials for nothing or next to it More than once in recent history theyve plucked chicken feathers out of an old Continental or Lycoming that was retrieved from the dark corner of a barn for around $100 (Actually Bills just finished a two-year term as President of EAA Chapter 51 in Middletown Rhode Island and Freds still the Chapter Designee - they have both done an excellent job)

When the opportunity arose they dickered and diddled and sang the song of a snake charmer until they could come home with a smile and that particular Sedan

Naturally the plane needed a little work The previous owner had argued with a pine tree The tree not only won but took the left wing as a prize The Aeronca was apparently so shocked by the action that it pulled back and stood up on the right wing as if to say I beg your pardon When things got back to level the right tip was mashed

How many times do you suppose guys like Bill and Fred have set out to unbend a wing but wound

(Fred Chew photo)

Off and flying the 140 is a marginal performer on hot days with a full load

(Fred Chew photo)

This Cessna 140 has been a regular feature in Bills back- yard for 15 years

up rebuilding the entire machine You can add their names to the list

One thing Bill quickly points out is that he and Fred are not engaged in a full-scale down-to-theshylast-screw restoration project Nope When it flies again i t will still be clearly recognizable as an Aeronca Sedan but there are some (approved ) changes in store Most obvious is the addition of brackets for float struts A presto-change-o routine with a few bolts will convert the plane from land to sea or vice versa

Conveniently it so happened that the greatest crash damage occurred on the left side Fred happily ripped out the bent tubes bent a few new ones and followed the STC cookbook for installing a left side door that opens upwards to the wing Its an approved mod for a seaplane configuration

(David Gustafson photo) Progress in the rebuild ing effort is evi shydent in this shot o f th e Sedan th e left wing attachment has been repaired the fusel age has been blas ted and primed the new left door frame is complete and a new headlin er s being installed

(Fred Chew photo) after abrupt removshy

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Each of the large metal wings originally contained 20 gallon rubber gas bladders (say that three times) and both leaked after the crash Replacement cost was $700 apiece so the wing panels were torn off and Fred bent up a couple of metal tanks that are larger than the originals Between the tanks and the twisted metal from the crash Fred figures hes disshymantled at least 80 per cent of the wings and replaced 50 per cent of the total materials Included are a number of ribs shaped by hand on wooden formers which were also hand etched from the pieces bound for the junk heap That translates into a lot of aluminum the wing span is 376 with a chord in excess of 5 feet which produces 200 square feet of wing area In the end Fred will be able to reproduce any curved part of the Sedans wing and yes he plans to come up with quotes for others needing help (write Fred Chew 158 Meridian Street Fall River Massach usetts 02720)

With the Clark Y airfoil and a Continental 145 horsepower engine the Sedan leaps off the ground almost as fast as a two-place Cub When you turn it into a Seadan by adding a couple EDO 2000s it breaks surf suction with a simple hop skip and a slurping leap The only drawback is that with the 2000s you cant hop unless there are only two people on board With four people and full tanks the floats become submarines As a result the two resourceful metal benders who plan to build their own floats are giving serious thought to making something bigshyger

(David Gustafson photo)

Detail of the float attachment fitting

Bills Aeronca was built in 1948 and like most classics its alread~ changed hands a few times Dr Paul Nussbaum was the first to drop mud on the carpets in 49 John Ru sh moved it from Missouri to Ohio ten years later After another decade a pair of partners in Pennsylvania flew it for awhile and then left it with another partnership in New York Gerry Broskin and Harris Gordon revamped the panel and went IFR Soon after that it became the answer to a dream for Ron and Diane Rissone in Randolph Massachusetts But then there was this pine tree That brings the odyssey of N1365H to Bill Walsh hangar and private seaplane base

The next time Bills Sedan sees another runway itll obviously be sporting rebuilt wings and new float brackets in addition there ll be a new windshield all new woodwork new ceconite new headliner new used back seats (from a Tri-Pacer yet) a new panel (still IFR) and discussion has already started about a total engine overhaul

Theres one other new item in the works for the Sedan When its checked out on its wheels again there ll be a streamlined gas tank nestled in the gear bay You see Bill and Fred have promised themselves this extended tour of South America once they finish

Then the Sedan will bob in the harbor beside the Cessna and Bill can wrestle with the question which one do I fly today

(David Gustafson photo)

Fred Chew holds up the new tip hes built for the right wing

(David Gustafson photo)

Bill Walsh displys the seaplane door thats being installed on the left side of th e Sedan

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Restoration Tips a photo essay provided by

Fred Chew 158 Meridian St

Fall River Mass 02720

(Note Freds kept an exce llent photo record of the process of rebuilding the wings for Bill Walshs Aeronca Sedan It gives a good idea of how to do it and how much works involved)

No2 - Teardown reveals the damage No4 - Line up new to old

No 1 - Last step before rebuilding

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Aeronca Sedan spar repair 7976 (Right wing) No5 - Extrusion repair

No8 - Removing old section No 10 - Repair of extrusion spar No6 - Horizontal-line up

No7 - New piece made ready for hole flare No9 - Ready for spar extrusion repair No 17 - New piece in place for riveting

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No 12 - Nose rib in place No 15 - Form to fit inside of old damaged spar tip rib NO 78 - Hand form mg

No 73 - C1eco nose rib to spa r No 16 - 032 alclad ready to be clamped in form No 79 - Flanging spar tip

No 74 - Ready to repair rear spar No 77 - Form ready for hand bending jig for lightening holes No 20 - More of same 22

No 27 - Trim off excess flange No 24 - Test fit to spar No 27 - 032 alclad 2024 TJ

No 22 - Trim square to form No 25 - Fly cutting lightening holes No 28 - Spar tip ready for installation

No 23 - Remove from form No 26 - Flanging No 29 - Clecos test line up 23

The Babv Cessna

It was born in Wichita Kansas at the Cessna fac-shytory in 1929 Because of the stock market slump the Airplane manufacturing business fell off drasshytically To try and keep the plant in operation Eldon Cessna decided to design and build a light airplane that could be sold at a low price As a result the EC-1 was developed It was powered with a 25 hp Cleone engine

At the time I was enrolled at the Braley School of Flying which was located directly across the road to the east of the Cessna field I spent much of my spare time at the field watching the men work on and fly the Baby Cessna It was a fascinating little airplane

Early last year I was looking for a suitable airshyplane to model for a C02 Powered model airplane contest I remembered the Baby Cessna and thought it would be just what I wanted

In doing research for drawings and photos I found that photos of both the EC-1 and the EC-2 were available but no drawings I had a photo of the EC-1 that I had taken with my Brownie box camera The EC-2 looked cleaner with its design refinements and the Aeronca E-107 engine

I met Eldon Cessna at-an OX5 get-to-gether at the Santa Paula Airport and we discussed the EC-2 at length He informed me that plans had never been published The EC-2 (cn 253 N405W) was the last Baby Cessna built

From the photos and from memory of being around the Baby Cessna these plans for a model were drawn Imagine what a delightful fun airplane it would be for a homebuilt replica project today These specifications appeared in the 1930 issue of Air Age magazine

Baby Cessna EC-2 (cn253 N405W) 30 hp Aeronca E-707A

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Baby Cessna EC-7 (cn 257 N403W) 25 hp Cleone 1930

By Cedric Calloway EAA 752

74624 Willow Street Hesperia CA 92345

~ --~ THE BABY CESSNA

Span 34 ft 11 in Wing area 163 sq ft Length overall 20 ft 4 in Height overall bull 5 ft 6 in Weights

Empty 470 Ibs Gross 925 Ibs

Gasoline capacity 8 gal Oil capacity 34 gal Power (Aeronca E-107A) 30 hp

PERFORMANCE

High speed 86 mph Cruising speed 70 mph Stalling speed 38 mph Climb first minute 740 ft Ceiling (service) 15000 ft Cruising range 200 miles

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Eastern Regional Fly-In (ME RFI ) Air Show awards on airport camping static displays etc Please check NOTAMS Contact Myrna Lewi s 241 Bassett Drive Springfie ld Ohio 44506 5131 323-2424

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JULY 1-2 - GAINESVILLE GEORGIA - 11th Annual Cracker Fly-In at Lee-Gilmer Airport Awards will be presented in all categories O ur banquet will be at the Gainesville Ho liday Inn Saturday night July 2 Len Povey has accepted an invitation to be guest speaker Accommodations - Gainesvi lle Holiday Inn and other local motels Information Jim Ealy 3535 Childers Road Roswell Georgia 30075 404993-4568

JULY 1-9 - BLAKESBURG IOWA - Wright Brothers 75th Annivershysary Fly-In at th e Antique Airfield In cl udes World War II PT and Liaison Plane Fly-In July 1-3 Fairchild Club Fly-In and Unique Airshyplane Fly-In July 8-9

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JULY 14-16 - MINDEN NEBRASKA - Second Annual National Stinshyson Club Fly-In Pioneer Field near Harold Warp s Pioneer Vilshylage BBQ Friday night for early arriva ls Saturday night banq uet and awards Schedu led events Fly-In Chairman Bob Near 2702 Butterfoot Lane Hastings Nebraska 68901 402463-9309

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JULY 15-16 - LONG ISLAND NEW YORK - Antique Airp lane Club of Grea ter New York 16th Annual Fly- In Brookhaven Airport Brookhaven Long Island New York

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JULY 21-23 - COFFEYVILLE KANSAS - Funk Fly- In Funk owners pilots and friends invited Fly-b ys factory and museum tours banquet Contact G Dale Beach 1621 Dreher Street Sacramento California 95814 o r Joe C Funk 2409 Edgevale Drive Coffeyshyville Kansas 67337

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1 I~rlII~llS Dear Sir

I am trying to get information on an aircraft that was built during the 20s called the Golden Eagle Chief It was a parasol wing powered by a radial engine type unshyknown Only about seven were built If any of your Antique classic division members know anything about this aircraft I would like to get in touch with them

I would like to take this opportunity to express what an outstanding organization I think the EAA is Ive only been a member for three years and only regret the years before I joined SPORT AVIATION is one of the best publications that I have ever read I have been to Oshkosh twice and to quite a few local fly-ins including Sun N Fun and have never seen anything more organized or better run I am looking forward to Oshkosh 78 and to continued membership in a fine organization

Sincerely james E Spradley (EAA 108947) PO Box 146 Rutledge Alabama 36071

Dear Mr Nielander Your editorial in the February issue of The Vinshy

tage Airplane is the best expression of the question of who is really qualified to maintain antique and classic aircraft (this applies equally well to some curshyrent aircraft such as the Bellanca Viking etc)

I submit the following recommendation as a way to offset some of the difficulties expressed in your excellent editorial to wit

The FAA should grant an A and E (or P) mechanics license to an individual who meets the following qualifications

(1) Passes three written examinations now required for the rating

(2) Passes the practical examination currently reshyquired

(3) Can show that he has actually done the major portion of the work in the restoration of an antique or classic airplane

You will note that the difference between these requirements and the current FAR part 65 requireshyments is the modification of sec 6577 which relates to on-the-job or schooling experience

From my own experience in restoring three airshyplanes (Luscombe Stinson Reliant Beechcraft B17L) I know that the amount of honest-to-God airplane and engine work in the usual restoration project is in exshycess of the stuff that the students in the approved

mechanic schools get Moreover during the 30 months practical experience referred to in FAR 6577 a lot of that time is spent just removing cowlings cleanshying sparkplugs changing tires sweeping floors pumpshying gas and plowing snow I guess what Im trying to do is build a case which shows that the antique classic restorer or homebuilder knows just as much about airplanes in general as does the individual who qualifies under the current provisions of FAR sec 6577

Very truly yours Thomas R Rench 1601 Circlewood Drive Racine Wisconsin 53402

Dear AI Perhaps I can shed a little light on the centershy

fold of the February issue of The Vintage Airplane The two planes pictured in the center of the page

are Top picture Wright Martin (Loening) M-8 Botshytom picture is an Ansaldo SVA-5 or SVA-9

The Loen ing was manufactured by the Wright Marshytin Corp and was built in 1921-1922 The factory deSignation was M-8

The Army Air Service designation was PW-2 PWshy2A and PW-2B Two of the PW-2 model were built in 1921 Gross weight was 2788 Ibs span 39 8 length 24 2 Ten of the PW-2A model were ordered by the Air Service but the order was cancelled after four were built in 1922 Gross weight was 2799 Ibs span 39 9 length 26 1

The PW2B was evaluated in 1922 but was never built Gross weight was to be 2976 Ibs span 34 1 length 23 4

PW-2 and PW-2A were powered by the Wright Martin H of 320 hp which was a Hisso built under license The PW2-B was to be powered by a 350 hp Packard engine

The Ansaldo can be either an SVA-5 or SVA-9 as the front view doesnt show whether it is a two place or single place The SVA-5 was single place while the SVA-9 was two place Both were powered by the Breda SPA-6A engine which was 6 cylinders and rated at 200 hp at 1600 rpm

I understand that there is an SVA-5 in a museum in Connecticut but I am not sure of this

Hope this information will be of some use to you Best regards H M Harkcom Harkcom Aircraft Service Rt 1 Inola Oklahoma

Dear AI In the February issue j R Nielander wrote an in shy

teresting editorial concerning the possibilities in the area of personal certification of antique aircraft by the owner restorer

Without blowing my own horn too loud I have worked with antiquers and others for the last 28 years doing what j R talks about signing off work for non-rated owners A lot of these people are really sharp and most do above average work and should be allowed to cut it on their own somehow

I think the key to this thing is for the FAA to set up a program whereby the interested antiquer could satisfy them that he is qualified to restore and mainshytain his antique This may not be as far away from FAA thinking as one might imagine as there has been talk around for some time at lower levels that the AampE ratings cover too much area for the average mechanic In other words the thinking in some areas of the FAA is that specialized ratings might be needed to have better qualified people in the field where needed If this thinking is still being kicked around in the FAA then the people in the antique field would fit into the thinking already floating around

A specialized rating for antiquers that covered about what was in old manual 18 would not be diffi shycult to qualify for I would favor two ratings along the lines of the AampP If an antiquer did not want to get into the mechanics of engines he could go after an airframe rating only If he wanted to be able to annual his antique then of course he would have to hold both tickets To satisfy the FARs and the inshysurance companies I think the antique rating apshyproach has good merit

I have talked to several antiquers not rated and they all said that they would be happy to work toshyward a limited type rating that would allow them unrestricted labor on their own aircraft They all feel that they should have this opportunity and I concur I have not always been happy to sign off work as an IA due to the fact that there is no such thing as direct supervision even if you are in the same room all the time Also I have seen the FAA just as uneasy mostly because they as a whole are far from qualified to judge most antiques

Well hope this fills a small gap in the ove rall picture If I can be of further help in any way please let me know

Sincerely Bob Younkin 55 Appleby Road Razorback Airport Fayetteville Arkansas 72701 26

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TABLE OF CONTENTS (Cover Photo by Chris Soresen George S Mennens 1940 Spartan Executive)

The Restorer s Corner by J R Nielander Jr 2 A Stinson by Byron (Fred) Fredericksen 4 World War I Era Replica Plans by Leonard Opdycke 10 Notice of Annual Business Meeting and Election of

Officers and Directors 12 Vintage Album 14 A Harbor For Classics by David Gustafson 16 Restoration Tips by Fred Chew 20 The Baby Cessna 24 Calendar of Events 25 Letters 26

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A STINSON By Byron (Fred) Fredericksen

3240 W Beezewood Lane Neenah Wisconsin 54956

(Photos by the Author unless otherwise noted)

Left Mr J D Berr y right th e author and Stin son N NC 15 165 on an island across th e riv er fro m Nenana Alaska M ay 16 1972 (A ircra ft was landed in 50ft snow with the gea r up 90 miles w est of here in 1947)

What do you think about this my friend asked as he reached across the the table and handed me a color Polaroid photo My mind was still with some home movie films of airplanes we had just viewed when he spoke and I really only half heard what he had sa id The autumn Alaska air was cool even in the cabin as I shuffled my feet to a more comfortshyable position gulped some freshly brewed coffee and gazed at this photo As I began to realize what I was looking at I answered I didnt think any of these existed anymore My host then said Well this one does it is mine and I wanted you to know about it as I may dispose of it maybe there is still some work to do

I got a magnifying glass from my briefcase and studied the photo in detail The photo was of good quality but was taken very late in the day It showed a forest in the arctic twilight with some snow cover and parked in the shadows beneath some huge trees was an airplane A big airplane It had three engines on it complete with cowling and propellers The wheels and tires were removed but the gear was down and the airplane was mounted in this position on a very large log frame skid The fuselage top and windshield was covered with a canvas The tail group was visible as were the wing struts It was of course a low wing Stinson tri-motor airliner all complete except that the outboard sections of the

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wings were removed I had a hundred questions to ask but thought better of it I poured some more coffee and listened to a tale about which one should write a book then make a movie As my friend reshyvealed his story of where this airplane was when he found it why it got there how he moved it to its present location and what sti ll remained to be done to get it out of the wilderness I realized a once in a lifetime adventure was unfolding here

Some readers will by now know my friend with the photo was Mr J D Berry for he briefly wrote of and had a photo of this subject Stinson in an Antique Airplane Association magazine some years ago This was 1970 when he informed me of this airshyplane and told me his story Ever since then I have been hoping he would write a complete story about his ten year ordeal to recover this rare bird He has not chosen to do so as of this date nor will I write of the COMPLETE story here I would however like to share the portion of this adventure in which I was personally involved along with some rare photos I took for those interested in Stinson history

I have always had a special interest in the Stinson airplane Twenty years ago I bought my first Stinson It was a 108-1 model Voyager I owned three other 108 series after that and some of the most pleasurable hours I have ever spent flying was in the left front seat of a Stinson Gull Wing I onee owned The publicashytion entitled THE STINSONS by John W Underwood is an excellent reference for the Stinson buff It contains good photos and history of all three models of tri-motors built by the Stinson Company In another of Mr Underwoods books titled THE VINTAGE AND VETERAN AIRCRAFT GUIDE there appears on page 42 a model A tri-motor with a caption which states N15165 is the last surviving model A N15165 is the airshyplane in the photos on these pages There is also a fine discription of the model A Stinson ATC 556 in Mr Joseph P Juptners book titled U S CIVIL AIRshyCRAFT VOL 6 I have not read where anyone has stated the exact number of these models produced It seems however some 35 were manufactured of which the prototype was first flown in mid 1934 with the bulk of production in 1935 and 36 Production had ceased by 1937 and by this time the As were operatshying in many foreign countries as well as in the US namely by American Airlines Central Airlines Delta and others I can ju st barely remember seeing these airplanes when I was a kid and I have always thought the A was a very hand some airplane The model A specifications and performance data were very impressive for it s time and they were well built

Arrival a t th e village of Nena na (Note huge tu g boats req uired to move the se barges and their cargo)

(My associates and I are rebuilding a 1931 high wing Stinson tri-motor at present which is the same type construction as the A with 4130 ClM welded steel tubing fuselage as well as wing spars welded up with same material into a truss) Ribs are square aluminum tubing The only wood used is for fairings here and there But then these fine aircraft like so many others of the past gave way to the more modern method of construction such as used on the Boeing 247 and Douglas DC-2 and 3 series with all the rivits and shiny aluminum

I will be brief here with the events involving the recovery of N15165 and its subsequent rebuild as I do not wish to steal the present owner s thunder or former owners should either ever decide in the future to do a complete story of this interesting adventure

Going back to 1970 at J D s home where he first showed the photo we speculated on what the airplane might be worth I have always felt any antique was worth what some one might pay for it However thi s airplane might well be the last of its kind Then two things happen one you can begin to justify the time and dollars spent to recover it and second one can dictate the selling price If it is the only one and the prospective buyer gives you a hard time on your price simply ask him to check around on the price of these models for sa le and if he cannot make a better deal come back and see me J D indicated what he might wish to take for it however we did not make any deal at that point in time Later when I was back home in Wisconsin I w as given a price which included the airp lane being brought out to civilizat ion where one could drive a vehicle to it At the tim e I was shown a photo of the airplane which was about halfway on its middotalmost one hundred mile trip from its original loca tion sight to the nea rest road J D had all hi s equipment in the bush at the Stinson site This included a D-8 Caterpillar equipped with a dozer blade a huge sled on skids which conshytained many fifty gallon drums of fuel and oil two five ton co me alongs snowmobile many parts and hand tools and the two airpl ane wings Along with

Unloading a t Union Oil Co Dock (A magnifying g lass will make visible 75765 on the rudder )

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Th e la st pull 10 C olde n Vall e y Electric In c sub station enclosure

these he had built a six foot by twelve foot cabin for shelter mounted on skids for pulling This home away from home is called a Wanigan He would go ahead with the Cat and clear a few hundred yards of timber along the route he chose through the bush and over the ridges come back and hook up his train airplane sled and Wanigan and then unhook again and clear another path and so on The only catch to this process was that this had to be done in the winter months only as the unfrozen tundra would not hold up the Cat in the summer months And what with the break downs problems with starting and operating a diesel engine in fifty degree below zero weather uncertain ice thicknesses to cross over rivers coupled with very few hours of daylight that time of year in Alaska one wonders if any price is worth that A man all alone in this type of operation could get himself killed In fact the Cat did go through the ice once He got it free all by himshyself Another time be broke a foot in a mishap and laid in the Wanigan in that condition for ten days before a refueling plane he had ordered found him Talk about a dedicated antiquer Once again would this story not make an interesting movie And all it would require was a one man cast

I accepted J Ds asking price and had in fact made a deal with a third party here in the Lower 48 to acquire it I might add that was the first and last time I will ever be the in between man on a deal like this it cost me a very good friend and one cannot put a dollar value on that One cannot state he lost money he never had however I was offered thirty thousand dollars more for the airplane than I got for it while it was still in Alaska but then thats water over the dam I really was not in this for money J D and I only wanted to see this A find a good home and people that would rebuild her and fly it again And I understand it is being rebuilt at this time in a very professional manner

Anyway due to an almost inhuman effort the man

Dick Stouffer photo) The Stinson obviou sly required a little more than a wash and paint job

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the cat airpl ane sled and Wani gan aft e r two winters of work arriv ed on an island across th e river fro m Nenana A las ka about sixty mil es be low Fairb ank Thi s w as M ay 1972 And the ice w as b rea king up in th e swift sprin g current I ca n im ag in e J D stand in g ther e on th e b ank thinkin g if I wa~ ju st a w ee k earli er I coul d cross to th e road into town He w alked across th e ice leavin g everythin g o n th e island and advi sed me of the situ ation M eanwhil e som ethin g was takin g pl ace abo ut th at time in th at th e milit ary at Ft W ainwri ght had rece ived so m e fl y in g cranes (cargo heli copters) Th ese anim als co ul d do in a few minutes wh at takes us mo n ths in terms of moving th e tri-moto r A ft er mon ths of ca ll s pro mi ses lett ers etc w e fin all y gave up o n th e U S A rm y (The pres ident of EAA even tri ed to help but to no ava il ) I fin all y fl ew up to J D s pl ace and we worked o ut a meth od to ge t th e airp lane across th e ri ve r

Th ere was a Barge Lin e Co mpany w hi ch wint ered in N enana and w as by now ready ing the ir tu gs and barge s fo r th e summ er season of hauling fu e l and equipment to th eir custo mers vi a th e river hi ghways in Al as ka The re equipm ent is mu ch the sa me as th e tu gs and ba rges w e see o perating o n th e M iss iss ippi Tbeir base w as a sho rt d istance down strea m f ro m the Stin son site on th e island J D spo ke to them and a pri ce was agreed o n to pu sh a ba rge to th e island ti e unto th e sho re and give us a day to buil d a ramp to th e barge and load our ca rgo J D and I hired a loca l fe ll ow w ith a boa t to take us aro un d to th e bac k of th e island and we t hen spe nt five days cutting b ru sh and dragg in g every thin g to th e w ater s edge whil e w aitin g for o ur ship Th e tu g and barge ca m e in sight o n th e fi f th day but th e current was 50 st rong the tu g los t steerage and th e ba rge woun d aro un d th e tu g and fl oa ted down stream Th e crew w e nt af te r it and th e nex t day m ade it a ll th e w ay Th ey pu shed int o shore as c lose as poss ibl e and tossed heavy ca bl es as ho re whi ch we clamped aro und tree stumps w e had cut Th e crew pulled the barge with th e pow er win ches Th ey left with th e tu g aft e r th e Capt ain re min ded us he d id not w ant th e dec k o f th e barge to rn up by th e ca t W e w ere to pl ank th e tr ac ks I forgo t ho w m any million s o f doll a rs h e sa id th e ba rge co st And dont smo ke on it because th e even foo t d eep ho ld is full o f fu el fumes

W e go t ri ght to wo rk J D pu shed ton s o f dirt and trees into the ri ve r between th e sho re and th e barge Half o f it washed aw ay but fin all y enough logs and trees w ere cri ss -crossed and thi s base began to hold th e mud and dirt and soon w e had a ramp

(whi c h continued to w as h awa y) W e imm ediate ly began to pull everythin g o n board In a co upl e o f hours w e w ere all loaded ju st as our ramp vani shed What a good fee ling w e had Thi s w as 1972 M r Berry start ed thi s pro jec t a hun d red mil es away bac k i n 1961 Th e tu g captain sent a sm all boa t for us as w e w ere no t to sleep o n the ba rge

The nex t day the tu g brou ght o ur p reciou s ca rgo down strea m to th e r iv er dock of th e Uni o n O il Company M r Co ghill own er of thi s Co mpany was kin d eno ugh to le t us co mpl etely tear up hi s ya rd w ith th e ca t in th e unl oa din g process J D straightened th e ya rd o ut later w ith th e doze r b lade We pull ed everythin g to a dirt side street out of everyon es w ay and wondered where w e could store the airplan e

We d iscove red an aba ndoned e lec t r ic company powe r sub stati o n at th e edge o f town It had a cyc lo ne fence aro und it with a ga te and loc k W e found th e own e r to be Gold en Vall ey Electri c Assoc iation Inc whose offi ce was in Fairbanks W e w ent there saw Mr Boyd Ro bert s as ked and w ere given permi ss io n to use th e Nenana Station for a month signed a hol d harmless agreement and return ed to Nenan a Th en w e reali zed w e had to cross two set s of railroad trac ks with th e ca t and the airpl ane You ju st don t run a c rawler pulling an eight thou sa nd pound load on rou gh log kids across anoth er mans railro ad tracks Afshy

ter much negotiating with the local railroad depot personnel we got the okay to cross th e tracks if w e first built a bridge of planks to run on This we did and pull ed the tri-m o tor up to the pow er station ga te o nly to fi nd the ga te was too small to all ow th e airshypl ane to pass thro ugh W e got so me shove ls d ug down all aro und o ne ga te pos t until w e hit th e huge chunk of con cre te th e po st was ce mented int o Th is w e lifted o ut with th e dozer b lade W e then pull ed the airpl ane in side th e fence repl anted th e ce ment and pos t closed the ga te and locked i t I th en so ught an o ld gentlem en that li ved ac ross th e stree t and gave him some do ll ars in re turn fo r hi s sh OO ing away any peopl e he may obse rve climbing th e fence with an int eres t in o ld airpl anes

Th e nex t day w as spe nt load in g lt1 11 o f J 0 equipmen t o n a ra ilroad fl at-car fo r shi pmen t to Fairshyba nks W e later drove to Fairbanks in J Ds tru ck and too k a mu ch needed res t W e vi sit ed o th e r spots where I observed a compl ete Norse man an d a Gull Win g Stin son rotting o ut side in the element s and suffering hard knocks fr o m snow plows J D also took me to the mu seum at th e U niversit y o f Alas ka where I could have spent a co upl e days Aft er that we too k the airlin e down to An cho rage and vi sited Mr Reddin the curato r o f the Air Transportation Mu se um who gave us a sw ell tour of thi s institution

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(Dick Souffer phoo)

itting tab A into slot B is no easy task in a rebuild of his size

(Dick 5rouffer ph 00)

The monumental task is nearing comp letion and may be flying when you read this

This musellm and its contents has since burned to the ground

I then said goodbye to J D and spent the next six and a half hours inhaling Vodka martinis on a non stop jet to Chicago

The tri-motor was picked up by semi truck along with a new set of wings Mr Berry had aquired that went with the deal The airplane is being rebuilt in Crvsta Lak~ Wisconsin and should flv this summer Perh rt ps some day J D and I may watch it fly at sClIe antique meet

F-or the record Stinson NC15165 was manufactured under ATC 556 model A serial No 9125 Engines were Lycoming (3) model R-680-5 260 hp each engines serials were Rt 2-1292 Lt 2-1400 ten 2-1290 Number of crew and passengers 9 PCLM

Delivered to original owner February 28 1936 American Airlines Inc 4848 West 63 Street Chicago Illinois

Ship damaged at Washington D C on June 8 1936 when a drunk drove a car into the tail while th e ship was parked near a hanger at the Washington ai rport

On November 2 1939 the total time on thi s aircraft was given as 223403 hours

Sold to Lavery Airways William L Lavery Fairshybanks Alaska April 27 1940

Sold to Raymond I Peterson DBA Ray Peterson Flying Service Anchorage Alaska September 14 1942

Sold to Ray Peterson Flying Service Raymond I Peterson Marie Antoinette Peterson Glen I Dillard Anchorage Alaska April 26 1944

Crashed November 1947 No details given On February 19 1948 so ld to Northern Conshy

so lidated Airlines Inc Box 1439 Anchorage Alaska Remarks Delivered to American Airlines M arch 2 1936

NC Licenses iss ued to expire 3-1-37 3-1-38 3-15-39 and 11-15-40 On 11-14-40 license NC-15165 approved for one year Aircraft disapproved for license on 10-30-42 due to bad original fabric Ship approved for license on 5-15-43 for one year

The next chapter is for Mr J D Berry to write should he wish to do so

For five years now I have sought and acquired what I believe is a complete listing of every serial number of the Stinson A models produced I followed one rumor and found some bones of an A model I believe there are two more in existence in what condition I do not know however I am going to find out Who knows

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11 plates 34 x 48 for 1601180 Mercedes versions $11000 Herbert L Kelley (above)

AF Museum (above) 11 plates 34 x 54 $12100 with raw materials and parts to be available later - Stolp Starduster Corporat ion 4301 Twining Riverside Calif

Fokker DVIII Full set from Platz original sketches for Warner powered reproduction s E D Swearingen 40 Monee Road Park Forest Illinois

AF Museum (above) Dan-San Abbott (in process of entry for Roland DVI below)

Fokker Drl Brochure $200 and full set of working drawings for Warner reproductions Walter W Redfern Route 1 Athol Idaho 83801

10 sheets done towards a complete set each $400 plus spar and rib sets fiber-glass cowls - Ron Sands RD 1 Mertztown PA 19539

Fokker EI 1 plate 22 x 30 1 to 1 for full sca le detail f ly in g model $1000 Herbert L Kelley (above)

Fokker EIII 25 9 x 7 photos of structure of Kensington Science Museum EIII $2500 plus $100 po stage - Ed Brannon 1405 Marcella NE Albuquerque NM 87112

Fokker VI 8 plates 17 x 22 1110 sca le structure developed from photos and historical data (of 44) $2500shyHerbert L Kelley (above)

1 plate 34 x 54 1110 scale for 26 span model $1000 - Herbert L Kelley (above)

Macchi-Hanriot HD1 Drawings $12000 - Chris j Warrilow 141 Chairshyborough Road Hi gh Wycombe Bucks U K

Nieuport 17 Rozendaal drawings - Fred Kom Losy 725 Robin Way North Palm Beach Florid a 33408

Air Force Museum (above) 3 sheets $225 - National Museum of Science and Technology (above)

Nieuport 24 Walt Redford (above)

Nieuport 27 Fred Kom Losy (above) Gordon E Codding (above)

Nieuport 28C1 Air Force Museum (above)

Pfalz Dill Darnell Sitton 1925 N Vermont Avenue 7 Los Angeles CA 90027

Pfalz DXII Set of 30 fine 5 x 7 photos of the EAA Museums DXI I under reconstruction $2000 (a ircraft on permanent loan from National Air and Space Museum) Ben Owen EAA Museum Box 229 Hales Corners WI 53130 ($1500 for EAA members)

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RAF Se5A 32 photos as above $2000 ($1500 to EAA memshybers) - Ben Owen EAA Air Museum (above)

Drawings for 85 scale all-wood reproduction - Replica Plans 953 Kirkmond Crescent Richshymond BC CANADA

Air Force Museum (above) Gordon E Codding (above) Complete set from which RAF Museum ship was rebuilt - Public Records Office Chancery Lane London UK (See Note below also)

Roland DVlab 5 sheets 34 x 44 fully detailed $5000 plus postage $350 (these fine drawings reviewed this issue p2) - Dan-San Abbott 25886 Gettysburg Avenue Hayward CA 94545

Pomilio W Can 66

Sopwith Bl Baby Bulldog Buffalo Camel Condor Cuckoo Dolphin Dove Dragon Gnu Gun Bus Hippo Pup Rainbow Ram Rhino Salamander Snail Snapper Snipe 112 Strutter Swallow Tabloid Triplane

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Sopwith Camel Air Force Museum (above) Gordon E Codding (above) Clayton amp Shuttleworth drawings of F1 Some 2F1 200 drawings for $144 Chris J Warrilow (above)

Sopwith Pup GordonE Codding (above) Air Force Museum (above) 72 drawings 18 x 24 $162 00 - Smithsonian Institution Washington DC

Sopwith Triplane (110 Clerget) Clayton amp Shuttleworth drawings about 100 for $7200 Chris Warrilow (above)

S Wieser Dir Plantetarium Clagary Parks Departshyment Box 2100 Calgary Alberta Canada

Sopwith Miscellaneous Types (SS SSD2 SPGN 150 hp Smith D3 S STS STD D2 DS frS 225 Sunbeam frS 220 hp Seaplane 2FR2 50 Gnome Biplane)

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Sopwith-Kauper Gun Gear H

Spad 7 Air Museum (above) Gordon E Codding (above) Jack Hickey 1659 Willis S St Paul Minn 55705shy20 sheets for $7500

Spad 13 Gordon E Codding (above)

Sperry Messenger W (Can 289)

Standard 11 Air Force Museum (above)

Thomas-Morse S4C Air Force Museum (above) Gordon E Codding (above)

Wright Gliders 4 plates 1899 Kite 17 x 22 1900-01-02 Gliders 110 sca le 34 x 48 total $3500 - Herbert L Kelley (above)

Wright Flyer 1903 Master drawings made for construction of Kitty Hawk Memorial reproduction 21 sheets for $2200 (make check payable to Cooper-Trent) - Louis S Casey Cu rator Aircraft amp Aeronautics National Air amp Space Museum Washington DC 20560)

Notes Complete drawings for display or building the Spandau LMGO-8-15 mig 3 x 6Vz - Ray Hollings 338054 Street San Diego CA 92105

RAE TECH MEMO 4 This catalog is subtitled

The EAA Aviation Museum is now the proud owner

Catalogue of Original Tracings of Aircraft and Engines Designed and Built by the RAE 1911-1918 assembled by Wing Commander NHF Unwin from Public Records Office Chancery L ne London UK Drawings are listed by aircraft type subject of drawing and drawing number any can be bought separately The SE5A set is complete (of RAF SE5A above) Types for which at least some drawings are available

Bristol Scout Bristol F2B Cierva Autogyro DH1-69-10 Hamble Baby Handley-Page 0400

V-1500 Short 225 320 Sopwith 1 Pup Triplane

Camel Snipe Dolphin

RAF BE1-5 7-1012 RAF CE1 RAF FE1-9 12 RAF NE1 RAF HAM I RAF Hydro-Aeroplane 17 RAF HRE 2 RAF RE1 3 5-9 RAF BS1 RAF SE1 2 4 4a 5 5a RAF TE1

EAAs Aviation Museum has built a replica of its own the Ryan NX-211 Spirit of SI Louis its also sponsored construction of this replica Wright Flyer at the Blackshyhawk Technical Institute in janesville Wisconsin

of this replica Fokker DR-I Triplane which was built and shydonated by Robert H Fergus of Columbus Ohio The white paint scheme on this replica was used by Lt Hans Weiss who flew with von Richtoffen

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planes fighters up through transportw Brad Thomas JrNotice of Annual Business Meeting C-54sPilot Mountain North Carolina Today he holds a commercial licenseand Manufacturer with single and multi-engine land and Born in High Point North CarolinaElection of Officers and Directors instrument ratings and remains actively

Brad was educated at McCallie School flying with his Gyrocopter and VW powshyNotice is hereby given that an annual business Chattanooga Tennessee MIT Camshy ered Scamp both built by him a Moonshy

meeting of the members of the EAA AntiqueClassic bridge Massachusetts and High Point ey for travel and a D-17R Staggerwing Division will be held on Saturday August 5 1978 at College His flying career began at the He is currently Secretary of the Antique

age of 16 when he soloed and obtained1030 AM (Central Daylight Time) at the 26th Anshy Classic Division of EAA Oshkosh Conshynual Convention of the Experimental Aircraft Associashy his private license in 1938 The advent vention Classic Awards Chairman and tion Inc Wittman Field Oshkosh Wisconsin of World War II encouraged his enlistshy Chief Judge Secretary and Treasurer

Notice is hereby further given that the annual ment in the Army Air Corps as a pilot of EAA Chapter 8 Greensboro N C election of officers and directors of the EAA Antique He graduated from British Flying Trainshy Vice-President of EAA Antique ChapshyClassic Division will be conducted by ballot disshy ing School No5 Clewiston Florida with ter 3 and a member of their executive tributed to the members along with this June issue of both Air Corps and RAF wings was transshy committee Br-ad and his wife Ferne The Vintage Airplane Said ballot must be returned ferred to the 7th Ferry Group Air Transshy have five children of which one is an properly marked to the Ballot Tally Committee EAA port Command Great Falls Montana active oilot AntiqueClassic Division Box 229 Hales Corners where he ferried most types of Air Corps Wisconsin 53130 and received no later than August 3 1978

Ronald Fritz Chairman Nominating Committee

W Brad Thomas Jr Secretary the acquisition of his private pilot li shyEAA AntiqueClassic Division cense he immediately bought and reshy

stored his first airplane a 1946 Cessna AI Kelch 140 N72323 which had been used as Mequon Wisconsin a trainer at South Dayton Airport In

Manufacturer1953 he rebuilt and restored 1946 Cessna AI -started his own company in 1950 140 N73018 and flew it during the reshy

mainder of 1953 and 1954 During this The Kelch Corp which is now a conshysame period J R bought an extensively glomerate of 5 small manufacturing comshydamaged 1949 Cessna 170A N9730A and panies in the industrial plastic field completely rebuilt and restored it inshy AI s interest in airplanes goes back cluding splicing the parts of two fuseshy to his childhood in the 1920s when he

would sit on his fathers lap and fly iniages together to make one With the completion of the Cessna his uncles Jenny whenever the Jenny

170A in early 1955 he flew to Florida came to town barnstorming where he was hired as an AampP by the He is a lifetime member of EAA and

local Cessna distributor Sunny South AAA He was president of the WisconshyAircraft Service Later that same year sin Chapter of AAA for two terms and he joined Pan American World Airways a director of AntiqueClassic Division as a co-pilot flying Convair 240s Since of EAA for two terms He served as edishythen he has flown Douglas DC-4 6 7C tor of The Vintage Airplane magazine from

January 1976 until February 1978 8 Boeing 707 and 720 aircraft Besides J R Nielander Jr He currently owns and flies a 1939 his ATR and mechanic tickets he also Fort Lauderdale FL Piper J3 Cub which he completely re-Pan Am Pilot J R was elected vice-president of the

holds a flight navigator license stored in 1968 and a 1939 Franklin Sport

By the time he learned to fly at Lakeshy AntiqueClassic Division at its organizashy biplane which he restored in 1969 A wood Airpark Mount Healthy Ohio tional meeting on November 6 1971 1931 Travel Air 12Q will be flying this

summer and two American Eaglets and in 1951 J R had already completed He held that office until he was elected five years of university study as well president by the Board of Directors at an E2 Cub are his current restoration as one year of graduate school With their meeting on February 5 1976 projects

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Morton W Lester Martinsville Virginia Builder-Developer and Real Estate Investor

Morton is President of The Lester Corshyporation and Vice-President of Motor Imports Inc He is Executive Vice-Presishydent of the Virginia Aeronautical Hisshytorical Society and a board member of several other civic governmental busishyness and humanitarian organizations Morton was soloed by his father at the age of 10 in a Piper Cub He currently owns several prototype antiques such as the Ryan SCW Davis Low Wing Aeronca and Johnson Rocket His curshyrent ship is a civilian Howard DGA-15P He also owns a rare Travel Air 6000B which is currently undergoing restorashytion under the careful expertise of his cousin Pete Covington Morton is a Trustee of the EAA Air Museum Foundashytion and a past chairman of the Classic Judging Team of Oshkosh He is past president and current member of the executive committee of EAA Chapter 395 (NC Sc amp Va Antique Airplane Foundation) Morton and his wife Marshygaret have three children

M C Kelly Viets Stilwell Kansas Consulting Engineer Self-Employed

Kelly entered the consulting engineer field in 1938 and spent World War II designing airports and base facilities for the U S government He started his own firm Viets Consulting Engishyneers in 1954 He is a registered proshyfessional engineer and holds membershyship in numerous professional societies Kelly spent a lot of his younger days around Kansas City Municipal and Fairshyfax airports seeing Benny Howards Ike make its first flights the Travel Air Mystery Ship on the way to Cleveshyland all the early airliners etc He startshyed flight instruction in 1938 in a 55 hp Porterfield and finally got his ticket on the GI Bill in 1946 Kelly and his wife Edna own an Ercoupe and the two of them started and manage the Internashytional Ercoupe Association Their monthshyly newsletter goes out to over 550 Ershycoupe enthusiasts around the world Kelly also owns and is restoring the 14shy12 Bellanca that was used as the protoshytype for the 14-13 series He is a Director of EAAs Antique-Classic Division Kelly and Edna have 3 children

Art Morgan Milwaukee Wisconsin Oster Service Division

Art Morgan began flying in 1961 and received his private license in 1962 In 1965 he went on to get his commercial rating

He has been a member of EAA since 1962 and was parking airplanes at Rockshyford Illinois

Art was one of the first to start buildshying a KR-1 and although he did not complete his project he was instrumenshytal in the completion of two of the little birds

In 1974 he and his wife Kate purchased a 1939 Luscombe 8-C which he promptly rebuilt After two years of flying the Lusshycombe Art and several friends organshyized the American Luscombe Club

Art has served the EAA as a museum volunteer for several years as Classic parking chairman at Oshkosh and also as Antique-Classic parking chairman

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I Pioneer Northwest pilot Eclith Fol tz lVel 1 neltive of Dallas maiden name - 1agali She learned to I) in Portlaml Oregon Fel)(uar) of l)l8

l IJdrntormecl a long-wing Edglerock (OX-5) middotkCfuirec License 5nOO and lVas th e fifth US wOlllan to ohtain the Transport rlIing

J Barnstorming the Northwest - Pilot Greenwood in a Ryan Brougham and Edith in the OX-5 Eaglerock

4 Edith placed second in the light-plane division of the first Nashytional Womens Air Derby 1929 Santa Monica to Cleveland flying an Alexander Eaglerock Bullet (Kinner engine) Charter member of the 99s

5 May 1930 - Edith christening The Romer new five-passenger airplane manufactured by the National Aircraft Corp Beavershyton Oregon

Vintag The Flying life

Compile (Special thanks to Paulin sharing Edith Sterns scr

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1 I Edith Stearns in structed Naval and Kingsv ille TX after WWII with Pauline Glasson Decease

Album m es of Edith Foltz Stearns ~ I enn Bu ff ington on of Co rp us Chr isti Texas fo r ( w ith us - also to I B Decker the photos)

ts in ins trum ent flying at Corpus Christi eel the 52 and 53 Powder Puff Derbies 956 ending a brillidnt flying career

Edith served as th e first Northwest Section Governor of the 99s - and she also w as Oregon Governor of the National Aeronautics Assn in the ea rl y ]Os She flew a Kinner Bird in the 3 7 and 32 derbies both from Sa nta Monica to Cleveland (4th in 3 7 and 2nd in 32 in th e women s division)

7 Edith and her son Richard Foltz age 6 in 793 7 a t Portland Oregon

8 7932 a t Cleveland Na tiona l Air Races (L to R) Vio la Gentry G ladys ODonn ell Florence Klingensmith Frank Phillips Edith Foltz Stearns and Frances Marsalis taken with Phillips Woolshyaroc Trophy Edith flew th e Bird to 2nd place in the Amelia Earhart Trophy Race (pylons) 1932 Klingesmith was first in a Monoco upe

9 Sk irts ~a flyin Edith Foltz Stea rns models one or her trade-marked FoIZLIp flying lOgs which eas il y converted to st reet wear - 7 932

I O Edith managed a new feeder airl in e a t Portshyland dnd taught prim ary CPT at Salem prior to WWII - se rved in En g land as a Firs t Officer in the Air Tran sport Aux iliary here in uniform

(Fred Chew photo)

Bills Cessna 140 slips through a quick left turn in a test of-rhe new splas h rails

A Harbor for Classics By David Gustafson Editor

Some fo lks would argue that Bali Hi is a mythical Island out in the South Pacific where the best in life is an everyday affair There are a few peoplehowshyever who would be inclined to suggest that the protoshytype model for Bali Hi can be found on the Southshyeast corner of Stafford Pond in Westport Masshysachusetts Thats where Bill Walsh lives What makes it special Well hes got several acres of land in the secluded inlet of a clear lake He doesn t have palm trees though his Norwegian pines give the same effect on a warm and breezy summer night To improve the natural scene Bill put in a dock laid down some railroad track for a movable ramp that can be winched right into the hangar he erected 200

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feet from the water Naturally there has to be someshything to place in the hangar so Bills lined the walls with tools and bending brakes The space thats left is reserved for his Cessna 140 Floatplane and the Aeronca Sedan hes rebuilding so he can be a twoshyfloatplane family

The Cessna 140 was built in 1948 and sent directly from Wichita to Sea Wings of Connecticut for conshyversion to floats It was then sold with floats and wheels With the stock Continental 85 horsepower engine the plane was marginal as a hot day aquatic performer Getting off the surf with two husky adults when its over 75 degrees out is a groaning process Some of the problem relates to the high speed airshy

foil that works nicely in cruise but does little to generate the kind of take-off lift you get in someshything like a Cub or Champ Even as a ground plane the Cessna requires a long take-off roll

Once airborne however the 140 levels off to a respectable 90 mph with a corkscrew that measures a wide 76 x 38 Bill s hoping to swap the C-85 someday for an 0-200 so he can take up so me of his fat friends in the mint julip season

As fa r as skidding around the pond Bill reports theres very little difference between the 140 and comshyparably sized float planes Of course the take-off runs lon ge r but once airborne (40-45 mph ) it climb s well and flies with much greater stability than a

land model The floats give it a big plane feeling says Bill

Stalls with a floating 140 are similar to the land configuration and intentional spins are strictly verbotten

When Bill bought the plane in 1963 it was on the floats but he couldnt get it off the water The floats leaked Experimentation revealed that the keel opened up on a take-off run so they were replaced Later he added spray rails which eliminated the center wake and brought the plane up onto the step quicker

In the wintertime the floats are replaced with skis and Bill goes out to race the ice boats Between

he floats and the skis the wheels havent been on the 140 for several years now When he wants to bounce around a paved runway he heads off to Fall River Airport haul s out a 170-B (of which he owns 1115th) and renews his acquaintance with toe brakes and squealing rubber

Like a growing number of people in EAA Bill divides his time between flying one project and tinkershying with another Hes lucky enough to have an Aeronca 15 AC Sedan as that other project He picked it up a couple years ago at a price that would take the wind out of some people Ask anyone who knows Bill or his close friend Fred Chew and theyll tell you that those two guys deserve a special suit that says SUPER-SCROUNGERS across the chest They have uncanny talents at picking up materials for nothing or next to it More than once in recent history theyve plucked chicken feathers out of an old Continental or Lycoming that was retrieved from the dark corner of a barn for around $100 (Actually Bills just finished a two-year term as President of EAA Chapter 51 in Middletown Rhode Island and Freds still the Chapter Designee - they have both done an excellent job)

When the opportunity arose they dickered and diddled and sang the song of a snake charmer until they could come home with a smile and that particular Sedan

Naturally the plane needed a little work The previous owner had argued with a pine tree The tree not only won but took the left wing as a prize The Aeronca was apparently so shocked by the action that it pulled back and stood up on the right wing as if to say I beg your pardon When things got back to level the right tip was mashed

How many times do you suppose guys like Bill and Fred have set out to unbend a wing but wound

(Fred Chew photo)

Off and flying the 140 is a marginal performer on hot days with a full load

(Fred Chew photo)

This Cessna 140 has been a regular feature in Bills back- yard for 15 years

up rebuilding the entire machine You can add their names to the list

One thing Bill quickly points out is that he and Fred are not engaged in a full-scale down-to-theshylast-screw restoration project Nope When it flies again i t will still be clearly recognizable as an Aeronca Sedan but there are some (approved ) changes in store Most obvious is the addition of brackets for float struts A presto-change-o routine with a few bolts will convert the plane from land to sea or vice versa

Conveniently it so happened that the greatest crash damage occurred on the left side Fred happily ripped out the bent tubes bent a few new ones and followed the STC cookbook for installing a left side door that opens upwards to the wing Its an approved mod for a seaplane configuration

(David Gustafson photo) Progress in the rebuild ing effort is evi shydent in this shot o f th e Sedan th e left wing attachment has been repaired the fusel age has been blas ted and primed the new left door frame is complete and a new headlin er s being installed

(Fred Chew photo) after abrupt removshy

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Each of the large metal wings originally contained 20 gallon rubber gas bladders (say that three times) and both leaked after the crash Replacement cost was $700 apiece so the wing panels were torn off and Fred bent up a couple of metal tanks that are larger than the originals Between the tanks and the twisted metal from the crash Fred figures hes disshymantled at least 80 per cent of the wings and replaced 50 per cent of the total materials Included are a number of ribs shaped by hand on wooden formers which were also hand etched from the pieces bound for the junk heap That translates into a lot of aluminum the wing span is 376 with a chord in excess of 5 feet which produces 200 square feet of wing area In the end Fred will be able to reproduce any curved part of the Sedans wing and yes he plans to come up with quotes for others needing help (write Fred Chew 158 Meridian Street Fall River Massach usetts 02720)

With the Clark Y airfoil and a Continental 145 horsepower engine the Sedan leaps off the ground almost as fast as a two-place Cub When you turn it into a Seadan by adding a couple EDO 2000s it breaks surf suction with a simple hop skip and a slurping leap The only drawback is that with the 2000s you cant hop unless there are only two people on board With four people and full tanks the floats become submarines As a result the two resourceful metal benders who plan to build their own floats are giving serious thought to making something bigshyger

(David Gustafson photo)

Detail of the float attachment fitting

Bills Aeronca was built in 1948 and like most classics its alread~ changed hands a few times Dr Paul Nussbaum was the first to drop mud on the carpets in 49 John Ru sh moved it from Missouri to Ohio ten years later After another decade a pair of partners in Pennsylvania flew it for awhile and then left it with another partnership in New York Gerry Broskin and Harris Gordon revamped the panel and went IFR Soon after that it became the answer to a dream for Ron and Diane Rissone in Randolph Massachusetts But then there was this pine tree That brings the odyssey of N1365H to Bill Walsh hangar and private seaplane base

The next time Bills Sedan sees another runway itll obviously be sporting rebuilt wings and new float brackets in addition there ll be a new windshield all new woodwork new ceconite new headliner new used back seats (from a Tri-Pacer yet) a new panel (still IFR) and discussion has already started about a total engine overhaul

Theres one other new item in the works for the Sedan When its checked out on its wheels again there ll be a streamlined gas tank nestled in the gear bay You see Bill and Fred have promised themselves this extended tour of South America once they finish

Then the Sedan will bob in the harbor beside the Cessna and Bill can wrestle with the question which one do I fly today

(David Gustafson photo)

Fred Chew holds up the new tip hes built for the right wing

(David Gustafson photo)

Bill Walsh displys the seaplane door thats being installed on the left side of th e Sedan

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Restoration Tips a photo essay provided by

Fred Chew 158 Meridian St

Fall River Mass 02720

(Note Freds kept an exce llent photo record of the process of rebuilding the wings for Bill Walshs Aeronca Sedan It gives a good idea of how to do it and how much works involved)

No2 - Teardown reveals the damage No4 - Line up new to old

No 1 - Last step before rebuilding

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Aeronca Sedan spar repair 7976 (Right wing) No5 - Extrusion repair

No8 - Removing old section No 10 - Repair of extrusion spar No6 - Horizontal-line up

No7 - New piece made ready for hole flare No9 - Ready for spar extrusion repair No 17 - New piece in place for riveting

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No 12 - Nose rib in place No 15 - Form to fit inside of old damaged spar tip rib NO 78 - Hand form mg

No 73 - C1eco nose rib to spa r No 16 - 032 alclad ready to be clamped in form No 79 - Flanging spar tip

No 74 - Ready to repair rear spar No 77 - Form ready for hand bending jig for lightening holes No 20 - More of same 22

No 27 - Trim off excess flange No 24 - Test fit to spar No 27 - 032 alclad 2024 TJ

No 22 - Trim square to form No 25 - Fly cutting lightening holes No 28 - Spar tip ready for installation

No 23 - Remove from form No 26 - Flanging No 29 - Clecos test line up 23

The Babv Cessna

It was born in Wichita Kansas at the Cessna fac-shytory in 1929 Because of the stock market slump the Airplane manufacturing business fell off drasshytically To try and keep the plant in operation Eldon Cessna decided to design and build a light airplane that could be sold at a low price As a result the EC-1 was developed It was powered with a 25 hp Cleone engine

At the time I was enrolled at the Braley School of Flying which was located directly across the road to the east of the Cessna field I spent much of my spare time at the field watching the men work on and fly the Baby Cessna It was a fascinating little airplane

Early last year I was looking for a suitable airshyplane to model for a C02 Powered model airplane contest I remembered the Baby Cessna and thought it would be just what I wanted

In doing research for drawings and photos I found that photos of both the EC-1 and the EC-2 were available but no drawings I had a photo of the EC-1 that I had taken with my Brownie box camera The EC-2 looked cleaner with its design refinements and the Aeronca E-107 engine

I met Eldon Cessna at-an OX5 get-to-gether at the Santa Paula Airport and we discussed the EC-2 at length He informed me that plans had never been published The EC-2 (cn 253 N405W) was the last Baby Cessna built

From the photos and from memory of being around the Baby Cessna these plans for a model were drawn Imagine what a delightful fun airplane it would be for a homebuilt replica project today These specifications appeared in the 1930 issue of Air Age magazine

Baby Cessna EC-2 (cn253 N405W) 30 hp Aeronca E-707A

bull 1

Baby Cessna EC-7 (cn 257 N403W) 25 hp Cleone 1930

By Cedric Calloway EAA 752

74624 Willow Street Hesperia CA 92345

~ --~ THE BABY CESSNA

Span 34 ft 11 in Wing area 163 sq ft Length overall 20 ft 4 in Height overall bull 5 ft 6 in Weights

Empty 470 Ibs Gross 925 Ibs

Gasoline capacity 8 gal Oil capacity 34 gal Power (Aeronca E-107A) 30 hp

PERFORMANCE

High speed 86 mph Cruising speed 70 mph Stalling speed 38 mph Climb first minute 740 ft Ceiling (service) 15000 ft Cruising range 200 miles

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Eastern Regional Fly-In (ME RFI ) Air Show awards on airport camping static displays etc Please check NOTAMS Contact Myrna Lewi s 241 Bassett Drive Springfie ld Ohio 44506 5131 323-2424

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JULY 1-2 - GAINESVILLE GEORGIA - 11th Annual Cracker Fly-In at Lee-Gilmer Airport Awards will be presented in all categories O ur banquet will be at the Gainesville Ho liday Inn Saturday night July 2 Len Povey has accepted an invitation to be guest speaker Accommodations - Gainesvi lle Holiday Inn and other local motels Information Jim Ealy 3535 Childers Road Roswell Georgia 30075 404993-4568

JULY 1-9 - BLAKESBURG IOWA - Wright Brothers 75th Annivershysary Fly-In at th e Antique Airfield In cl udes World War II PT and Liaison Plane Fly-In July 1-3 Fairchild Club Fly-In and Unique Airshyplane Fly-In July 8-9

JULY 9 - EASTON PENNSYLVANIA - 2nd Annual Aeronca FlyshyIn Easton Airport 10 AM to 230 PM open to all types of Aeroncas Rain date July 16 Contact Jim Polles 2151759-3713 nights and weekends

JULY 14-16 - MINDEN NEBRASKA - Second Annual National Stinshyson Club Fly-In Pioneer Field near Harold Warp s Pioneer Vilshylage BBQ Friday night for early arriva ls Saturday night banq uet and awards Schedu led events Fly-In Chairman Bob Near 2702 Butterfoot Lane Hastings Nebraska 68901 402463-9309

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1 I~rlII~llS Dear Sir

I am trying to get information on an aircraft that was built during the 20s called the Golden Eagle Chief It was a parasol wing powered by a radial engine type unshyknown Only about seven were built If any of your Antique classic division members know anything about this aircraft I would like to get in touch with them

I would like to take this opportunity to express what an outstanding organization I think the EAA is Ive only been a member for three years and only regret the years before I joined SPORT AVIATION is one of the best publications that I have ever read I have been to Oshkosh twice and to quite a few local fly-ins including Sun N Fun and have never seen anything more organized or better run I am looking forward to Oshkosh 78 and to continued membership in a fine organization

Sincerely james E Spradley (EAA 108947) PO Box 146 Rutledge Alabama 36071

Dear Mr Nielander Your editorial in the February issue of The Vinshy

tage Airplane is the best expression of the question of who is really qualified to maintain antique and classic aircraft (this applies equally well to some curshyrent aircraft such as the Bellanca Viking etc)

I submit the following recommendation as a way to offset some of the difficulties expressed in your excellent editorial to wit

The FAA should grant an A and E (or P) mechanics license to an individual who meets the following qualifications

(1) Passes three written examinations now required for the rating

(2) Passes the practical examination currently reshyquired

(3) Can show that he has actually done the major portion of the work in the restoration of an antique or classic airplane

You will note that the difference between these requirements and the current FAR part 65 requireshyments is the modification of sec 6577 which relates to on-the-job or schooling experience

From my own experience in restoring three airshyplanes (Luscombe Stinson Reliant Beechcraft B17L) I know that the amount of honest-to-God airplane and engine work in the usual restoration project is in exshycess of the stuff that the students in the approved

mechanic schools get Moreover during the 30 months practical experience referred to in FAR 6577 a lot of that time is spent just removing cowlings cleanshying sparkplugs changing tires sweeping floors pumpshying gas and plowing snow I guess what Im trying to do is build a case which shows that the antique classic restorer or homebuilder knows just as much about airplanes in general as does the individual who qualifies under the current provisions of FAR sec 6577

Very truly yours Thomas R Rench 1601 Circlewood Drive Racine Wisconsin 53402

Dear AI Perhaps I can shed a little light on the centershy

fold of the February issue of The Vintage Airplane The two planes pictured in the center of the page

are Top picture Wright Martin (Loening) M-8 Botshytom picture is an Ansaldo SVA-5 or SVA-9

The Loen ing was manufactured by the Wright Marshytin Corp and was built in 1921-1922 The factory deSignation was M-8

The Army Air Service designation was PW-2 PWshy2A and PW-2B Two of the PW-2 model were built in 1921 Gross weight was 2788 Ibs span 39 8 length 24 2 Ten of the PW-2A model were ordered by the Air Service but the order was cancelled after four were built in 1922 Gross weight was 2799 Ibs span 39 9 length 26 1

The PW2B was evaluated in 1922 but was never built Gross weight was to be 2976 Ibs span 34 1 length 23 4

PW-2 and PW-2A were powered by the Wright Martin H of 320 hp which was a Hisso built under license The PW2-B was to be powered by a 350 hp Packard engine

The Ansaldo can be either an SVA-5 or SVA-9 as the front view doesnt show whether it is a two place or single place The SVA-5 was single place while the SVA-9 was two place Both were powered by the Breda SPA-6A engine which was 6 cylinders and rated at 200 hp at 1600 rpm

I understand that there is an SVA-5 in a museum in Connecticut but I am not sure of this

Hope this information will be of some use to you Best regards H M Harkcom Harkcom Aircraft Service Rt 1 Inola Oklahoma

Dear AI In the February issue j R Nielander wrote an in shy

teresting editorial concerning the possibilities in the area of personal certification of antique aircraft by the owner restorer

Without blowing my own horn too loud I have worked with antiquers and others for the last 28 years doing what j R talks about signing off work for non-rated owners A lot of these people are really sharp and most do above average work and should be allowed to cut it on their own somehow

I think the key to this thing is for the FAA to set up a program whereby the interested antiquer could satisfy them that he is qualified to restore and mainshytain his antique This may not be as far away from FAA thinking as one might imagine as there has been talk around for some time at lower levels that the AampE ratings cover too much area for the average mechanic In other words the thinking in some areas of the FAA is that specialized ratings might be needed to have better qualified people in the field where needed If this thinking is still being kicked around in the FAA then the people in the antique field would fit into the thinking already floating around

A specialized rating for antiquers that covered about what was in old manual 18 would not be diffi shycult to qualify for I would favor two ratings along the lines of the AampP If an antiquer did not want to get into the mechanics of engines he could go after an airframe rating only If he wanted to be able to annual his antique then of course he would have to hold both tickets To satisfy the FARs and the inshysurance companies I think the antique rating apshyproach has good merit

I have talked to several antiquers not rated and they all said that they would be happy to work toshyward a limited type rating that would allow them unrestricted labor on their own aircraft They all feel that they should have this opportunity and I concur I have not always been happy to sign off work as an IA due to the fact that there is no such thing as direct supervision even if you are in the same room all the time Also I have seen the FAA just as uneasy mostly because they as a whole are far from qualified to judge most antiques

Well hope this fills a small gap in the ove rall picture If I can be of further help in any way please let me know

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A STINSON By Byron (Fred) Fredericksen

3240 W Beezewood Lane Neenah Wisconsin 54956

(Photos by the Author unless otherwise noted)

Left Mr J D Berr y right th e author and Stin son N NC 15 165 on an island across th e riv er fro m Nenana Alaska M ay 16 1972 (A ircra ft was landed in 50ft snow with the gea r up 90 miles w est of here in 1947)

What do you think about this my friend asked as he reached across the the table and handed me a color Polaroid photo My mind was still with some home movie films of airplanes we had just viewed when he spoke and I really only half heard what he had sa id The autumn Alaska air was cool even in the cabin as I shuffled my feet to a more comfortshyable position gulped some freshly brewed coffee and gazed at this photo As I began to realize what I was looking at I answered I didnt think any of these existed anymore My host then said Well this one does it is mine and I wanted you to know about it as I may dispose of it maybe there is still some work to do

I got a magnifying glass from my briefcase and studied the photo in detail The photo was of good quality but was taken very late in the day It showed a forest in the arctic twilight with some snow cover and parked in the shadows beneath some huge trees was an airplane A big airplane It had three engines on it complete with cowling and propellers The wheels and tires were removed but the gear was down and the airplane was mounted in this position on a very large log frame skid The fuselage top and windshield was covered with a canvas The tail group was visible as were the wing struts It was of course a low wing Stinson tri-motor airliner all complete except that the outboard sections of the

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wings were removed I had a hundred questions to ask but thought better of it I poured some more coffee and listened to a tale about which one should write a book then make a movie As my friend reshyvealed his story of where this airplane was when he found it why it got there how he moved it to its present location and what sti ll remained to be done to get it out of the wilderness I realized a once in a lifetime adventure was unfolding here

Some readers will by now know my friend with the photo was Mr J D Berry for he briefly wrote of and had a photo of this subject Stinson in an Antique Airplane Association magazine some years ago This was 1970 when he informed me of this airshyplane and told me his story Ever since then I have been hoping he would write a complete story about his ten year ordeal to recover this rare bird He has not chosen to do so as of this date nor will I write of the COMPLETE story here I would however like to share the portion of this adventure in which I was personally involved along with some rare photos I took for those interested in Stinson history

I have always had a special interest in the Stinson airplane Twenty years ago I bought my first Stinson It was a 108-1 model Voyager I owned three other 108 series after that and some of the most pleasurable hours I have ever spent flying was in the left front seat of a Stinson Gull Wing I onee owned The publicashytion entitled THE STINSONS by John W Underwood is an excellent reference for the Stinson buff It contains good photos and history of all three models of tri-motors built by the Stinson Company In another of Mr Underwoods books titled THE VINTAGE AND VETERAN AIRCRAFT GUIDE there appears on page 42 a model A tri-motor with a caption which states N15165 is the last surviving model A N15165 is the airshyplane in the photos on these pages There is also a fine discription of the model A Stinson ATC 556 in Mr Joseph P Juptners book titled U S CIVIL AIRshyCRAFT VOL 6 I have not read where anyone has stated the exact number of these models produced It seems however some 35 were manufactured of which the prototype was first flown in mid 1934 with the bulk of production in 1935 and 36 Production had ceased by 1937 and by this time the As were operatshying in many foreign countries as well as in the US namely by American Airlines Central Airlines Delta and others I can ju st barely remember seeing these airplanes when I was a kid and I have always thought the A was a very hand some airplane The model A specifications and performance data were very impressive for it s time and they were well built

Arrival a t th e village of Nena na (Note huge tu g boats req uired to move the se barges and their cargo)

(My associates and I are rebuilding a 1931 high wing Stinson tri-motor at present which is the same type construction as the A with 4130 ClM welded steel tubing fuselage as well as wing spars welded up with same material into a truss) Ribs are square aluminum tubing The only wood used is for fairings here and there But then these fine aircraft like so many others of the past gave way to the more modern method of construction such as used on the Boeing 247 and Douglas DC-2 and 3 series with all the rivits and shiny aluminum

I will be brief here with the events involving the recovery of N15165 and its subsequent rebuild as I do not wish to steal the present owner s thunder or former owners should either ever decide in the future to do a complete story of this interesting adventure

Going back to 1970 at J D s home where he first showed the photo we speculated on what the airplane might be worth I have always felt any antique was worth what some one might pay for it However thi s airplane might well be the last of its kind Then two things happen one you can begin to justify the time and dollars spent to recover it and second one can dictate the selling price If it is the only one and the prospective buyer gives you a hard time on your price simply ask him to check around on the price of these models for sa le and if he cannot make a better deal come back and see me J D indicated what he might wish to take for it however we did not make any deal at that point in time Later when I was back home in Wisconsin I w as given a price which included the airp lane being brought out to civilizat ion where one could drive a vehicle to it At the tim e I was shown a photo of the airplane which was about halfway on its middotalmost one hundred mile trip from its original loca tion sight to the nea rest road J D had all hi s equipment in the bush at the Stinson site This included a D-8 Caterpillar equipped with a dozer blade a huge sled on skids which conshytained many fifty gallon drums of fuel and oil two five ton co me alongs snowmobile many parts and hand tools and the two airpl ane wings Along with

Unloading a t Union Oil Co Dock (A magnifying g lass will make visible 75765 on the rudder )

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Th e la st pull 10 C olde n Vall e y Electric In c sub station enclosure

these he had built a six foot by twelve foot cabin for shelter mounted on skids for pulling This home away from home is called a Wanigan He would go ahead with the Cat and clear a few hundred yards of timber along the route he chose through the bush and over the ridges come back and hook up his train airplane sled and Wanigan and then unhook again and clear another path and so on The only catch to this process was that this had to be done in the winter months only as the unfrozen tundra would not hold up the Cat in the summer months And what with the break downs problems with starting and operating a diesel engine in fifty degree below zero weather uncertain ice thicknesses to cross over rivers coupled with very few hours of daylight that time of year in Alaska one wonders if any price is worth that A man all alone in this type of operation could get himself killed In fact the Cat did go through the ice once He got it free all by himshyself Another time be broke a foot in a mishap and laid in the Wanigan in that condition for ten days before a refueling plane he had ordered found him Talk about a dedicated antiquer Once again would this story not make an interesting movie And all it would require was a one man cast

I accepted J Ds asking price and had in fact made a deal with a third party here in the Lower 48 to acquire it I might add that was the first and last time I will ever be the in between man on a deal like this it cost me a very good friend and one cannot put a dollar value on that One cannot state he lost money he never had however I was offered thirty thousand dollars more for the airplane than I got for it while it was still in Alaska but then thats water over the dam I really was not in this for money J D and I only wanted to see this A find a good home and people that would rebuild her and fly it again And I understand it is being rebuilt at this time in a very professional manner

Anyway due to an almost inhuman effort the man

Dick Stouffer photo) The Stinson obviou sly required a little more than a wash and paint job

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the cat airpl ane sled and Wani gan aft e r two winters of work arriv ed on an island across th e river fro m Nenana A las ka about sixty mil es be low Fairb ank Thi s w as M ay 1972 And the ice w as b rea king up in th e swift sprin g current I ca n im ag in e J D stand in g ther e on th e b ank thinkin g if I wa~ ju st a w ee k earli er I coul d cross to th e road into town He w alked across th e ice leavin g everythin g o n th e island and advi sed me of the situ ation M eanwhil e som ethin g was takin g pl ace abo ut th at time in th at th e milit ary at Ft W ainwri ght had rece ived so m e fl y in g cranes (cargo heli copters) Th ese anim als co ul d do in a few minutes wh at takes us mo n ths in terms of moving th e tri-moto r A ft er mon ths of ca ll s pro mi ses lett ers etc w e fin all y gave up o n th e U S A rm y (The pres ident of EAA even tri ed to help but to no ava il ) I fin all y fl ew up to J D s pl ace and we worked o ut a meth od to ge t th e airp lane across th e ri ve r

Th ere was a Barge Lin e Co mpany w hi ch wint ered in N enana and w as by now ready ing the ir tu gs and barge s fo r th e summ er season of hauling fu e l and equipment to th eir custo mers vi a th e river hi ghways in Al as ka The re equipm ent is mu ch the sa me as th e tu gs and ba rges w e see o perating o n th e M iss iss ippi Tbeir base w as a sho rt d istance down strea m f ro m the Stin son site on th e island J D spo ke to them and a pri ce was agreed o n to pu sh a ba rge to th e island ti e unto th e sho re and give us a day to buil d a ramp to th e barge and load our ca rgo J D and I hired a loca l fe ll ow w ith a boa t to take us aro un d to th e bac k of th e island and we t hen spe nt five days cutting b ru sh and dragg in g every thin g to th e w ater s edge whil e w aitin g for o ur ship Th e tu g and barge ca m e in sight o n th e fi f th day but th e current was 50 st rong the tu g los t steerage and th e ba rge woun d aro un d th e tu g and fl oa ted down stream Th e crew w e nt af te r it and th e nex t day m ade it a ll th e w ay Th ey pu shed int o shore as c lose as poss ibl e and tossed heavy ca bl es as ho re whi ch we clamped aro und tree stumps w e had cut Th e crew pulled the barge with th e pow er win ches Th ey left with th e tu g aft e r th e Capt ain re min ded us he d id not w ant th e dec k o f th e barge to rn up by th e ca t W e w ere to pl ank th e tr ac ks I forgo t ho w m any million s o f doll a rs h e sa id th e ba rge co st And dont smo ke on it because th e even foo t d eep ho ld is full o f fu el fumes

W e go t ri ght to wo rk J D pu shed ton s o f dirt and trees into the ri ve r between th e sho re and th e barge Half o f it washed aw ay but fin all y enough logs and trees w ere cri ss -crossed and thi s base began to hold th e mud and dirt and soon w e had a ramp

(whi c h continued to w as h awa y) W e imm ediate ly began to pull everythin g o n board In a co upl e o f hours w e w ere all loaded ju st as our ramp vani shed What a good fee ling w e had Thi s w as 1972 M r Berry start ed thi s pro jec t a hun d red mil es away bac k i n 1961 Th e tu g captain sent a sm all boa t for us as w e w ere no t to sleep o n the ba rge

The nex t day the tu g brou ght o ur p reciou s ca rgo down strea m to th e r iv er dock of th e Uni o n O il Company M r Co ghill own er of thi s Co mpany was kin d eno ugh to le t us co mpl etely tear up hi s ya rd w ith th e ca t in th e unl oa din g process J D straightened th e ya rd o ut later w ith th e doze r b lade We pull ed everythin g to a dirt side street out of everyon es w ay and wondered where w e could store the airplan e

We d iscove red an aba ndoned e lec t r ic company powe r sub stati o n at th e edge o f town It had a cyc lo ne fence aro und it with a ga te and loc k W e found th e own e r to be Gold en Vall ey Electri c Assoc iation Inc whose offi ce was in Fairbanks W e w ent there saw Mr Boyd Ro bert s as ked and w ere given permi ss io n to use th e Nenana Station for a month signed a hol d harmless agreement and return ed to Nenan a Th en w e reali zed w e had to cross two set s of railroad trac ks with th e ca t and the airpl ane You ju st don t run a c rawler pulling an eight thou sa nd pound load on rou gh log kids across anoth er mans railro ad tracks Afshy

ter much negotiating with the local railroad depot personnel we got the okay to cross th e tracks if w e first built a bridge of planks to run on This we did and pull ed the tri-m o tor up to the pow er station ga te o nly to fi nd the ga te was too small to all ow th e airshypl ane to pass thro ugh W e got so me shove ls d ug down all aro und o ne ga te pos t until w e hit th e huge chunk of con cre te th e po st was ce mented int o Th is w e lifted o ut with th e dozer b lade W e then pull ed the airpl ane in side th e fence repl anted th e ce ment and pos t closed the ga te and locked i t I th en so ught an o ld gentlem en that li ved ac ross th e stree t and gave him some do ll ars in re turn fo r hi s sh OO ing away any peopl e he may obse rve climbing th e fence with an int eres t in o ld airpl anes

Th e nex t day w as spe nt load in g lt1 11 o f J 0 equipmen t o n a ra ilroad fl at-car fo r shi pmen t to Fairshyba nks W e later drove to Fairbanks in J Ds tru ck and too k a mu ch needed res t W e vi sit ed o th e r spots where I observed a compl ete Norse man an d a Gull Win g Stin son rotting o ut side in the element s and suffering hard knocks fr o m snow plows J D also took me to the mu seum at th e U niversit y o f Alas ka where I could have spent a co upl e days Aft er that we too k the airlin e down to An cho rage and vi sited Mr Reddin the curato r o f the Air Transportation Mu se um who gave us a sw ell tour of thi s institution

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(Dick Souffer phoo)

itting tab A into slot B is no easy task in a rebuild of his size

(Dick 5rouffer ph 00)

The monumental task is nearing comp letion and may be flying when you read this

This musellm and its contents has since burned to the ground

I then said goodbye to J D and spent the next six and a half hours inhaling Vodka martinis on a non stop jet to Chicago

The tri-motor was picked up by semi truck along with a new set of wings Mr Berry had aquired that went with the deal The airplane is being rebuilt in Crvsta Lak~ Wisconsin and should flv this summer Perh rt ps some day J D and I may watch it fly at sClIe antique meet

F-or the record Stinson NC15165 was manufactured under ATC 556 model A serial No 9125 Engines were Lycoming (3) model R-680-5 260 hp each engines serials were Rt 2-1292 Lt 2-1400 ten 2-1290 Number of crew and passengers 9 PCLM

Delivered to original owner February 28 1936 American Airlines Inc 4848 West 63 Street Chicago Illinois

Ship damaged at Washington D C on June 8 1936 when a drunk drove a car into the tail while th e ship was parked near a hanger at the Washington ai rport

On November 2 1939 the total time on thi s aircraft was given as 223403 hours

Sold to Lavery Airways William L Lavery Fairshybanks Alaska April 27 1940

Sold to Raymond I Peterson DBA Ray Peterson Flying Service Anchorage Alaska September 14 1942

Sold to Ray Peterson Flying Service Raymond I Peterson Marie Antoinette Peterson Glen I Dillard Anchorage Alaska April 26 1944

Crashed November 1947 No details given On February 19 1948 so ld to Northern Conshy

so lidated Airlines Inc Box 1439 Anchorage Alaska Remarks Delivered to American Airlines M arch 2 1936

NC Licenses iss ued to expire 3-1-37 3-1-38 3-15-39 and 11-15-40 On 11-14-40 license NC-15165 approved for one year Aircraft disapproved for license on 10-30-42 due to bad original fabric Ship approved for license on 5-15-43 for one year

The next chapter is for Mr J D Berry to write should he wish to do so

For five years now I have sought and acquired what I believe is a complete listing of every serial number of the Stinson A models produced I followed one rumor and found some bones of an A model I believe there are two more in existence in what condition I do not know however I am going to find out Who knows

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Pfalz DXII Set of 30 fine 5 x 7 photos of the EAA Museums DXI I under reconstruction $2000 (a ircraft on permanent loan from National Air and Space Museum) Ben Owen EAA Museum Box 229 Hales Corners WI 53130 ($1500 for EAA members)

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RAF Se5A 32 photos as above $2000 ($1500 to EAA memshybers) - Ben Owen EAA Air Museum (above)

Drawings for 85 scale all-wood reproduction - Replica Plans 953 Kirkmond Crescent Richshymond BC CANADA

Air Force Museum (above) Gordon E Codding (above) Complete set from which RAF Museum ship was rebuilt - Public Records Office Chancery Lane London UK (See Note below also)

Roland DVlab 5 sheets 34 x 44 fully detailed $5000 plus postage $350 (these fine drawings reviewed this issue p2) - Dan-San Abbott 25886 Gettysburg Avenue Hayward CA 94545

Pomilio W Can 66

Sopwith Bl Baby Bulldog Buffalo Camel Condor Cuckoo Dolphin Dove Dragon Gnu Gun Bus Hippo Pup Rainbow Ram Rhino Salamander Snail Snapper Snipe 112 Strutter Swallow Tabloid Triplane

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Sopwith Camel Air Force Museum (above) Gordon E Codding (above) Clayton amp Shuttleworth drawings of F1 Some 2F1 200 drawings for $144 Chris J Warrilow (above)

Sopwith Pup GordonE Codding (above) Air Force Museum (above) 72 drawings 18 x 24 $162 00 - Smithsonian Institution Washington DC

Sopwith Triplane (110 Clerget) Clayton amp Shuttleworth drawings about 100 for $7200 Chris Warrilow (above)

S Wieser Dir Plantetarium Clagary Parks Departshyment Box 2100 Calgary Alberta Canada

Sopwith Miscellaneous Types (SS SSD2 SPGN 150 hp Smith D3 S STS STD D2 DS frS 225 Sunbeam frS 220 hp Seaplane 2FR2 50 Gnome Biplane)

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Sopwith-Kauper Gun Gear H

Spad 7 Air Museum (above) Gordon E Codding (above) Jack Hickey 1659 Willis S St Paul Minn 55705shy20 sheets for $7500

Spad 13 Gordon E Codding (above)

Sperry Messenger W (Can 289)

Standard 11 Air Force Museum (above)

Thomas-Morse S4C Air Force Museum (above) Gordon E Codding (above)

Wright Gliders 4 plates 1899 Kite 17 x 22 1900-01-02 Gliders 110 sca le 34 x 48 total $3500 - Herbert L Kelley (above)

Wright Flyer 1903 Master drawings made for construction of Kitty Hawk Memorial reproduction 21 sheets for $2200 (make check payable to Cooper-Trent) - Louis S Casey Cu rator Aircraft amp Aeronautics National Air amp Space Museum Washington DC 20560)

Notes Complete drawings for display or building the Spandau LMGO-8-15 mig 3 x 6Vz - Ray Hollings 338054 Street San Diego CA 92105

RAE TECH MEMO 4 This catalog is subtitled

The EAA Aviation Museum is now the proud owner

Catalogue of Original Tracings of Aircraft and Engines Designed and Built by the RAE 1911-1918 assembled by Wing Commander NHF Unwin from Public Records Office Chancery L ne London UK Drawings are listed by aircraft type subject of drawing and drawing number any can be bought separately The SE5A set is complete (of RAF SE5A above) Types for which at least some drawings are available

Bristol Scout Bristol F2B Cierva Autogyro DH1-69-10 Hamble Baby Handley-Page 0400

V-1500 Short 225 320 Sopwith 1 Pup Triplane

Camel Snipe Dolphin

RAF BE1-5 7-1012 RAF CE1 RAF FE1-9 12 RAF NE1 RAF HAM I RAF Hydro-Aeroplane 17 RAF HRE 2 RAF RE1 3 5-9 RAF BS1 RAF SE1 2 4 4a 5 5a RAF TE1

EAAs Aviation Museum has built a replica of its own the Ryan NX-211 Spirit of SI Louis its also sponsored construction of this replica Wright Flyer at the Blackshyhawk Technical Institute in janesville Wisconsin

of this replica Fokker DR-I Triplane which was built and shydonated by Robert H Fergus of Columbus Ohio The white paint scheme on this replica was used by Lt Hans Weiss who flew with von Richtoffen

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planes fighters up through transportw Brad Thomas JrNotice of Annual Business Meeting C-54sPilot Mountain North Carolina Today he holds a commercial licenseand Manufacturer with single and multi-engine land and Born in High Point North CarolinaElection of Officers and Directors instrument ratings and remains actively

Brad was educated at McCallie School flying with his Gyrocopter and VW powshyNotice is hereby given that an annual business Chattanooga Tennessee MIT Camshy ered Scamp both built by him a Moonshy

meeting of the members of the EAA AntiqueClassic bridge Massachusetts and High Point ey for travel and a D-17R Staggerwing Division will be held on Saturday August 5 1978 at College His flying career began at the He is currently Secretary of the Antique

age of 16 when he soloed and obtained1030 AM (Central Daylight Time) at the 26th Anshy Classic Division of EAA Oshkosh Conshynual Convention of the Experimental Aircraft Associashy his private license in 1938 The advent vention Classic Awards Chairman and tion Inc Wittman Field Oshkosh Wisconsin of World War II encouraged his enlistshy Chief Judge Secretary and Treasurer

Notice is hereby further given that the annual ment in the Army Air Corps as a pilot of EAA Chapter 8 Greensboro N C election of officers and directors of the EAA Antique He graduated from British Flying Trainshy Vice-President of EAA Antique ChapshyClassic Division will be conducted by ballot disshy ing School No5 Clewiston Florida with ter 3 and a member of their executive tributed to the members along with this June issue of both Air Corps and RAF wings was transshy committee Br-ad and his wife Ferne The Vintage Airplane Said ballot must be returned ferred to the 7th Ferry Group Air Transshy have five children of which one is an properly marked to the Ballot Tally Committee EAA port Command Great Falls Montana active oilot AntiqueClassic Division Box 229 Hales Corners where he ferried most types of Air Corps Wisconsin 53130 and received no later than August 3 1978

Ronald Fritz Chairman Nominating Committee

W Brad Thomas Jr Secretary the acquisition of his private pilot li shyEAA AntiqueClassic Division cense he immediately bought and reshy

stored his first airplane a 1946 Cessna AI Kelch 140 N72323 which had been used as Mequon Wisconsin a trainer at South Dayton Airport In

Manufacturer1953 he rebuilt and restored 1946 Cessna AI -started his own company in 1950 140 N73018 and flew it during the reshy

mainder of 1953 and 1954 During this The Kelch Corp which is now a conshysame period J R bought an extensively glomerate of 5 small manufacturing comshydamaged 1949 Cessna 170A N9730A and panies in the industrial plastic field completely rebuilt and restored it inshy AI s interest in airplanes goes back cluding splicing the parts of two fuseshy to his childhood in the 1920s when he

would sit on his fathers lap and fly iniages together to make one With the completion of the Cessna his uncles Jenny whenever the Jenny

170A in early 1955 he flew to Florida came to town barnstorming where he was hired as an AampP by the He is a lifetime member of EAA and

local Cessna distributor Sunny South AAA He was president of the WisconshyAircraft Service Later that same year sin Chapter of AAA for two terms and he joined Pan American World Airways a director of AntiqueClassic Division as a co-pilot flying Convair 240s Since of EAA for two terms He served as edishythen he has flown Douglas DC-4 6 7C tor of The Vintage Airplane magazine from

January 1976 until February 1978 8 Boeing 707 and 720 aircraft Besides J R Nielander Jr He currently owns and flies a 1939 his ATR and mechanic tickets he also Fort Lauderdale FL Piper J3 Cub which he completely re-Pan Am Pilot J R was elected vice-president of the

holds a flight navigator license stored in 1968 and a 1939 Franklin Sport

By the time he learned to fly at Lakeshy AntiqueClassic Division at its organizashy biplane which he restored in 1969 A wood Airpark Mount Healthy Ohio tional meeting on November 6 1971 1931 Travel Air 12Q will be flying this

summer and two American Eaglets and in 1951 J R had already completed He held that office until he was elected five years of university study as well president by the Board of Directors at an E2 Cub are his current restoration as one year of graduate school With their meeting on February 5 1976 projects

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Morton W Lester Martinsville Virginia Builder-Developer and Real Estate Investor

Morton is President of The Lester Corshyporation and Vice-President of Motor Imports Inc He is Executive Vice-Presishydent of the Virginia Aeronautical Hisshytorical Society and a board member of several other civic governmental busishyness and humanitarian organizations Morton was soloed by his father at the age of 10 in a Piper Cub He currently owns several prototype antiques such as the Ryan SCW Davis Low Wing Aeronca and Johnson Rocket His curshyrent ship is a civilian Howard DGA-15P He also owns a rare Travel Air 6000B which is currently undergoing restorashytion under the careful expertise of his cousin Pete Covington Morton is a Trustee of the EAA Air Museum Foundashytion and a past chairman of the Classic Judging Team of Oshkosh He is past president and current member of the executive committee of EAA Chapter 395 (NC Sc amp Va Antique Airplane Foundation) Morton and his wife Marshygaret have three children

M C Kelly Viets Stilwell Kansas Consulting Engineer Self-Employed

Kelly entered the consulting engineer field in 1938 and spent World War II designing airports and base facilities for the U S government He started his own firm Viets Consulting Engishyneers in 1954 He is a registered proshyfessional engineer and holds membershyship in numerous professional societies Kelly spent a lot of his younger days around Kansas City Municipal and Fairshyfax airports seeing Benny Howards Ike make its first flights the Travel Air Mystery Ship on the way to Cleveshyland all the early airliners etc He startshyed flight instruction in 1938 in a 55 hp Porterfield and finally got his ticket on the GI Bill in 1946 Kelly and his wife Edna own an Ercoupe and the two of them started and manage the Internashytional Ercoupe Association Their monthshyly newsletter goes out to over 550 Ershycoupe enthusiasts around the world Kelly also owns and is restoring the 14shy12 Bellanca that was used as the protoshytype for the 14-13 series He is a Director of EAAs Antique-Classic Division Kelly and Edna have 3 children

Art Morgan Milwaukee Wisconsin Oster Service Division

Art Morgan began flying in 1961 and received his private license in 1962 In 1965 he went on to get his commercial rating

He has been a member of EAA since 1962 and was parking airplanes at Rockshyford Illinois

Art was one of the first to start buildshying a KR-1 and although he did not complete his project he was instrumenshytal in the completion of two of the little birds

In 1974 he and his wife Kate purchased a 1939 Luscombe 8-C which he promptly rebuilt After two years of flying the Lusshycombe Art and several friends organshyized the American Luscombe Club

Art has served the EAA as a museum volunteer for several years as Classic parking chairman at Oshkosh and also as Antique-Classic parking chairman

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I Pioneer Northwest pilot Eclith Fol tz lVel 1 neltive of Dallas maiden name - 1agali She learned to I) in Portlaml Oregon Fel)(uar) of l)l8

l IJdrntormecl a long-wing Edglerock (OX-5) middotkCfuirec License 5nOO and lVas th e fifth US wOlllan to ohtain the Transport rlIing

J Barnstorming the Northwest - Pilot Greenwood in a Ryan Brougham and Edith in the OX-5 Eaglerock

4 Edith placed second in the light-plane division of the first Nashytional Womens Air Derby 1929 Santa Monica to Cleveland flying an Alexander Eaglerock Bullet (Kinner engine) Charter member of the 99s

5 May 1930 - Edith christening The Romer new five-passenger airplane manufactured by the National Aircraft Corp Beavershyton Oregon

Vintag The Flying life

Compile (Special thanks to Paulin sharing Edith Sterns scr

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1 I Edith Stearns in structed Naval and Kingsv ille TX after WWII with Pauline Glasson Decease

Album m es of Edith Foltz Stearns ~ I enn Bu ff ington on of Co rp us Chr isti Texas fo r ( w ith us - also to I B Decker the photos)

ts in ins trum ent flying at Corpus Christi eel the 52 and 53 Powder Puff Derbies 956 ending a brillidnt flying career

Edith served as th e first Northwest Section Governor of the 99s - and she also w as Oregon Governor of the National Aeronautics Assn in the ea rl y ]Os She flew a Kinner Bird in the 3 7 and 32 derbies both from Sa nta Monica to Cleveland (4th in 3 7 and 2nd in 32 in th e women s division)

7 Edith and her son Richard Foltz age 6 in 793 7 a t Portland Oregon

8 7932 a t Cleveland Na tiona l Air Races (L to R) Vio la Gentry G ladys ODonn ell Florence Klingensmith Frank Phillips Edith Foltz Stearns and Frances Marsalis taken with Phillips Woolshyaroc Trophy Edith flew th e Bird to 2nd place in the Amelia Earhart Trophy Race (pylons) 1932 Klingesmith was first in a Monoco upe

9 Sk irts ~a flyin Edith Foltz Stea rns models one or her trade-marked FoIZLIp flying lOgs which eas il y converted to st reet wear - 7 932

I O Edith managed a new feeder airl in e a t Portshyland dnd taught prim ary CPT at Salem prior to WWII - se rved in En g land as a Firs t Officer in the Air Tran sport Aux iliary here in uniform

(Fred Chew photo)

Bills Cessna 140 slips through a quick left turn in a test of-rhe new splas h rails

A Harbor for Classics By David Gustafson Editor

Some fo lks would argue that Bali Hi is a mythical Island out in the South Pacific where the best in life is an everyday affair There are a few peoplehowshyever who would be inclined to suggest that the protoshytype model for Bali Hi can be found on the Southshyeast corner of Stafford Pond in Westport Masshysachusetts Thats where Bill Walsh lives What makes it special Well hes got several acres of land in the secluded inlet of a clear lake He doesn t have palm trees though his Norwegian pines give the same effect on a warm and breezy summer night To improve the natural scene Bill put in a dock laid down some railroad track for a movable ramp that can be winched right into the hangar he erected 200

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feet from the water Naturally there has to be someshything to place in the hangar so Bills lined the walls with tools and bending brakes The space thats left is reserved for his Cessna 140 Floatplane and the Aeronca Sedan hes rebuilding so he can be a twoshyfloatplane family

The Cessna 140 was built in 1948 and sent directly from Wichita to Sea Wings of Connecticut for conshyversion to floats It was then sold with floats and wheels With the stock Continental 85 horsepower engine the plane was marginal as a hot day aquatic performer Getting off the surf with two husky adults when its over 75 degrees out is a groaning process Some of the problem relates to the high speed airshy

foil that works nicely in cruise but does little to generate the kind of take-off lift you get in someshything like a Cub or Champ Even as a ground plane the Cessna requires a long take-off roll

Once airborne however the 140 levels off to a respectable 90 mph with a corkscrew that measures a wide 76 x 38 Bill s hoping to swap the C-85 someday for an 0-200 so he can take up so me of his fat friends in the mint julip season

As fa r as skidding around the pond Bill reports theres very little difference between the 140 and comshyparably sized float planes Of course the take-off runs lon ge r but once airborne (40-45 mph ) it climb s well and flies with much greater stability than a

land model The floats give it a big plane feeling says Bill

Stalls with a floating 140 are similar to the land configuration and intentional spins are strictly verbotten

When Bill bought the plane in 1963 it was on the floats but he couldnt get it off the water The floats leaked Experimentation revealed that the keel opened up on a take-off run so they were replaced Later he added spray rails which eliminated the center wake and brought the plane up onto the step quicker

In the wintertime the floats are replaced with skis and Bill goes out to race the ice boats Between

he floats and the skis the wheels havent been on the 140 for several years now When he wants to bounce around a paved runway he heads off to Fall River Airport haul s out a 170-B (of which he owns 1115th) and renews his acquaintance with toe brakes and squealing rubber

Like a growing number of people in EAA Bill divides his time between flying one project and tinkershying with another Hes lucky enough to have an Aeronca 15 AC Sedan as that other project He picked it up a couple years ago at a price that would take the wind out of some people Ask anyone who knows Bill or his close friend Fred Chew and theyll tell you that those two guys deserve a special suit that says SUPER-SCROUNGERS across the chest They have uncanny talents at picking up materials for nothing or next to it More than once in recent history theyve plucked chicken feathers out of an old Continental or Lycoming that was retrieved from the dark corner of a barn for around $100 (Actually Bills just finished a two-year term as President of EAA Chapter 51 in Middletown Rhode Island and Freds still the Chapter Designee - they have both done an excellent job)

When the opportunity arose they dickered and diddled and sang the song of a snake charmer until they could come home with a smile and that particular Sedan

Naturally the plane needed a little work The previous owner had argued with a pine tree The tree not only won but took the left wing as a prize The Aeronca was apparently so shocked by the action that it pulled back and stood up on the right wing as if to say I beg your pardon When things got back to level the right tip was mashed

How many times do you suppose guys like Bill and Fred have set out to unbend a wing but wound

(Fred Chew photo)

Off and flying the 140 is a marginal performer on hot days with a full load

(Fred Chew photo)

This Cessna 140 has been a regular feature in Bills back- yard for 15 years

up rebuilding the entire machine You can add their names to the list

One thing Bill quickly points out is that he and Fred are not engaged in a full-scale down-to-theshylast-screw restoration project Nope When it flies again i t will still be clearly recognizable as an Aeronca Sedan but there are some (approved ) changes in store Most obvious is the addition of brackets for float struts A presto-change-o routine with a few bolts will convert the plane from land to sea or vice versa

Conveniently it so happened that the greatest crash damage occurred on the left side Fred happily ripped out the bent tubes bent a few new ones and followed the STC cookbook for installing a left side door that opens upwards to the wing Its an approved mod for a seaplane configuration

(David Gustafson photo) Progress in the rebuild ing effort is evi shydent in this shot o f th e Sedan th e left wing attachment has been repaired the fusel age has been blas ted and primed the new left door frame is complete and a new headlin er s being installed

(Fred Chew photo) after abrupt removshy

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Each of the large metal wings originally contained 20 gallon rubber gas bladders (say that three times) and both leaked after the crash Replacement cost was $700 apiece so the wing panels were torn off and Fred bent up a couple of metal tanks that are larger than the originals Between the tanks and the twisted metal from the crash Fred figures hes disshymantled at least 80 per cent of the wings and replaced 50 per cent of the total materials Included are a number of ribs shaped by hand on wooden formers which were also hand etched from the pieces bound for the junk heap That translates into a lot of aluminum the wing span is 376 with a chord in excess of 5 feet which produces 200 square feet of wing area In the end Fred will be able to reproduce any curved part of the Sedans wing and yes he plans to come up with quotes for others needing help (write Fred Chew 158 Meridian Street Fall River Massach usetts 02720)

With the Clark Y airfoil and a Continental 145 horsepower engine the Sedan leaps off the ground almost as fast as a two-place Cub When you turn it into a Seadan by adding a couple EDO 2000s it breaks surf suction with a simple hop skip and a slurping leap The only drawback is that with the 2000s you cant hop unless there are only two people on board With four people and full tanks the floats become submarines As a result the two resourceful metal benders who plan to build their own floats are giving serious thought to making something bigshyger

(David Gustafson photo)

Detail of the float attachment fitting

Bills Aeronca was built in 1948 and like most classics its alread~ changed hands a few times Dr Paul Nussbaum was the first to drop mud on the carpets in 49 John Ru sh moved it from Missouri to Ohio ten years later After another decade a pair of partners in Pennsylvania flew it for awhile and then left it with another partnership in New York Gerry Broskin and Harris Gordon revamped the panel and went IFR Soon after that it became the answer to a dream for Ron and Diane Rissone in Randolph Massachusetts But then there was this pine tree That brings the odyssey of N1365H to Bill Walsh hangar and private seaplane base

The next time Bills Sedan sees another runway itll obviously be sporting rebuilt wings and new float brackets in addition there ll be a new windshield all new woodwork new ceconite new headliner new used back seats (from a Tri-Pacer yet) a new panel (still IFR) and discussion has already started about a total engine overhaul

Theres one other new item in the works for the Sedan When its checked out on its wheels again there ll be a streamlined gas tank nestled in the gear bay You see Bill and Fred have promised themselves this extended tour of South America once they finish

Then the Sedan will bob in the harbor beside the Cessna and Bill can wrestle with the question which one do I fly today

(David Gustafson photo)

Fred Chew holds up the new tip hes built for the right wing

(David Gustafson photo)

Bill Walsh displys the seaplane door thats being installed on the left side of th e Sedan

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Restoration Tips a photo essay provided by

Fred Chew 158 Meridian St

Fall River Mass 02720

(Note Freds kept an exce llent photo record of the process of rebuilding the wings for Bill Walshs Aeronca Sedan It gives a good idea of how to do it and how much works involved)

No2 - Teardown reveals the damage No4 - Line up new to old

No 1 - Last step before rebuilding

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Aeronca Sedan spar repair 7976 (Right wing) No5 - Extrusion repair

No8 - Removing old section No 10 - Repair of extrusion spar No6 - Horizontal-line up

No7 - New piece made ready for hole flare No9 - Ready for spar extrusion repair No 17 - New piece in place for riveting

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No 12 - Nose rib in place No 15 - Form to fit inside of old damaged spar tip rib NO 78 - Hand form mg

No 73 - C1eco nose rib to spa r No 16 - 032 alclad ready to be clamped in form No 79 - Flanging spar tip

No 74 - Ready to repair rear spar No 77 - Form ready for hand bending jig for lightening holes No 20 - More of same 22

No 27 - Trim off excess flange No 24 - Test fit to spar No 27 - 032 alclad 2024 TJ

No 22 - Trim square to form No 25 - Fly cutting lightening holes No 28 - Spar tip ready for installation

No 23 - Remove from form No 26 - Flanging No 29 - Clecos test line up 23

The Babv Cessna

It was born in Wichita Kansas at the Cessna fac-shytory in 1929 Because of the stock market slump the Airplane manufacturing business fell off drasshytically To try and keep the plant in operation Eldon Cessna decided to design and build a light airplane that could be sold at a low price As a result the EC-1 was developed It was powered with a 25 hp Cleone engine

At the time I was enrolled at the Braley School of Flying which was located directly across the road to the east of the Cessna field I spent much of my spare time at the field watching the men work on and fly the Baby Cessna It was a fascinating little airplane

Early last year I was looking for a suitable airshyplane to model for a C02 Powered model airplane contest I remembered the Baby Cessna and thought it would be just what I wanted

In doing research for drawings and photos I found that photos of both the EC-1 and the EC-2 were available but no drawings I had a photo of the EC-1 that I had taken with my Brownie box camera The EC-2 looked cleaner with its design refinements and the Aeronca E-107 engine

I met Eldon Cessna at-an OX5 get-to-gether at the Santa Paula Airport and we discussed the EC-2 at length He informed me that plans had never been published The EC-2 (cn 253 N405W) was the last Baby Cessna built

From the photos and from memory of being around the Baby Cessna these plans for a model were drawn Imagine what a delightful fun airplane it would be for a homebuilt replica project today These specifications appeared in the 1930 issue of Air Age magazine

Baby Cessna EC-2 (cn253 N405W) 30 hp Aeronca E-707A

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Baby Cessna EC-7 (cn 257 N403W) 25 hp Cleone 1930

By Cedric Calloway EAA 752

74624 Willow Street Hesperia CA 92345

~ --~ THE BABY CESSNA

Span 34 ft 11 in Wing area 163 sq ft Length overall 20 ft 4 in Height overall bull 5 ft 6 in Weights

Empty 470 Ibs Gross 925 Ibs

Gasoline capacity 8 gal Oil capacity 34 gal Power (Aeronca E-107A) 30 hp

PERFORMANCE

High speed 86 mph Cruising speed 70 mph Stalling speed 38 mph Climb first minute 740 ft Ceiling (service) 15000 ft Cruising range 200 miles

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Eastern Regional Fly-In (ME RFI ) Air Show awards on airport camping static displays etc Please check NOTAMS Contact Myrna Lewi s 241 Bassett Drive Springfie ld Ohio 44506 5131 323-2424

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JULY 1-2 - GAINESVILLE GEORGIA - 11th Annual Cracker Fly-In at Lee-Gilmer Airport Awards will be presented in all categories O ur banquet will be at the Gainesville Ho liday Inn Saturday night July 2 Len Povey has accepted an invitation to be guest speaker Accommodations - Gainesvi lle Holiday Inn and other local motels Information Jim Ealy 3535 Childers Road Roswell Georgia 30075 404993-4568

JULY 1-9 - BLAKESBURG IOWA - Wright Brothers 75th Annivershysary Fly-In at th e Antique Airfield In cl udes World War II PT and Liaison Plane Fly-In July 1-3 Fairchild Club Fly-In and Unique Airshyplane Fly-In July 8-9

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JULY 14-16 - MINDEN NEBRASKA - Second Annual National Stinshyson Club Fly-In Pioneer Field near Harold Warp s Pioneer Vilshylage BBQ Friday night for early arriva ls Saturday night banq uet and awards Schedu led events Fly-In Chairman Bob Near 2702 Butterfoot Lane Hastings Nebraska 68901 402463-9309

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JULY 15-16 - LONG ISLAND NEW YORK - Antique Airp lane Club of Grea ter New York 16th Annual Fly- In Brookhaven Airport Brookhaven Long Island New York

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JULY 21-23 - COFFEYVILLE KANSAS - Funk Fly- In Funk owners pilots and friends invited Fly-b ys factory and museum tours banquet Contact G Dale Beach 1621 Dreher Street Sacramento California 95814 o r Joe C Funk 2409 Edgevale Drive Coffeyshyville Kansas 67337

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1 I~rlII~llS Dear Sir

I am trying to get information on an aircraft that was built during the 20s called the Golden Eagle Chief It was a parasol wing powered by a radial engine type unshyknown Only about seven were built If any of your Antique classic division members know anything about this aircraft I would like to get in touch with them

I would like to take this opportunity to express what an outstanding organization I think the EAA is Ive only been a member for three years and only regret the years before I joined SPORT AVIATION is one of the best publications that I have ever read I have been to Oshkosh twice and to quite a few local fly-ins including Sun N Fun and have never seen anything more organized or better run I am looking forward to Oshkosh 78 and to continued membership in a fine organization

Sincerely james E Spradley (EAA 108947) PO Box 146 Rutledge Alabama 36071

Dear Mr Nielander Your editorial in the February issue of The Vinshy

tage Airplane is the best expression of the question of who is really qualified to maintain antique and classic aircraft (this applies equally well to some curshyrent aircraft such as the Bellanca Viking etc)

I submit the following recommendation as a way to offset some of the difficulties expressed in your excellent editorial to wit

The FAA should grant an A and E (or P) mechanics license to an individual who meets the following qualifications

(1) Passes three written examinations now required for the rating

(2) Passes the practical examination currently reshyquired

(3) Can show that he has actually done the major portion of the work in the restoration of an antique or classic airplane

You will note that the difference between these requirements and the current FAR part 65 requireshyments is the modification of sec 6577 which relates to on-the-job or schooling experience

From my own experience in restoring three airshyplanes (Luscombe Stinson Reliant Beechcraft B17L) I know that the amount of honest-to-God airplane and engine work in the usual restoration project is in exshycess of the stuff that the students in the approved

mechanic schools get Moreover during the 30 months practical experience referred to in FAR 6577 a lot of that time is spent just removing cowlings cleanshying sparkplugs changing tires sweeping floors pumpshying gas and plowing snow I guess what Im trying to do is build a case which shows that the antique classic restorer or homebuilder knows just as much about airplanes in general as does the individual who qualifies under the current provisions of FAR sec 6577

Very truly yours Thomas R Rench 1601 Circlewood Drive Racine Wisconsin 53402

Dear AI Perhaps I can shed a little light on the centershy

fold of the February issue of The Vintage Airplane The two planes pictured in the center of the page

are Top picture Wright Martin (Loening) M-8 Botshytom picture is an Ansaldo SVA-5 or SVA-9

The Loen ing was manufactured by the Wright Marshytin Corp and was built in 1921-1922 The factory deSignation was M-8

The Army Air Service designation was PW-2 PWshy2A and PW-2B Two of the PW-2 model were built in 1921 Gross weight was 2788 Ibs span 39 8 length 24 2 Ten of the PW-2A model were ordered by the Air Service but the order was cancelled after four were built in 1922 Gross weight was 2799 Ibs span 39 9 length 26 1

The PW2B was evaluated in 1922 but was never built Gross weight was to be 2976 Ibs span 34 1 length 23 4

PW-2 and PW-2A were powered by the Wright Martin H of 320 hp which was a Hisso built under license The PW2-B was to be powered by a 350 hp Packard engine

The Ansaldo can be either an SVA-5 or SVA-9 as the front view doesnt show whether it is a two place or single place The SVA-5 was single place while the SVA-9 was two place Both were powered by the Breda SPA-6A engine which was 6 cylinders and rated at 200 hp at 1600 rpm

I understand that there is an SVA-5 in a museum in Connecticut but I am not sure of this

Hope this information will be of some use to you Best regards H M Harkcom Harkcom Aircraft Service Rt 1 Inola Oklahoma

Dear AI In the February issue j R Nielander wrote an in shy

teresting editorial concerning the possibilities in the area of personal certification of antique aircraft by the owner restorer

Without blowing my own horn too loud I have worked with antiquers and others for the last 28 years doing what j R talks about signing off work for non-rated owners A lot of these people are really sharp and most do above average work and should be allowed to cut it on their own somehow

I think the key to this thing is for the FAA to set up a program whereby the interested antiquer could satisfy them that he is qualified to restore and mainshytain his antique This may not be as far away from FAA thinking as one might imagine as there has been talk around for some time at lower levels that the AampE ratings cover too much area for the average mechanic In other words the thinking in some areas of the FAA is that specialized ratings might be needed to have better qualified people in the field where needed If this thinking is still being kicked around in the FAA then the people in the antique field would fit into the thinking already floating around

A specialized rating for antiquers that covered about what was in old manual 18 would not be diffi shycult to qualify for I would favor two ratings along the lines of the AampP If an antiquer did not want to get into the mechanics of engines he could go after an airframe rating only If he wanted to be able to annual his antique then of course he would have to hold both tickets To satisfy the FARs and the inshysurance companies I think the antique rating apshyproach has good merit

I have talked to several antiquers not rated and they all said that they would be happy to work toshyward a limited type rating that would allow them unrestricted labor on their own aircraft They all feel that they should have this opportunity and I concur I have not always been happy to sign off work as an IA due to the fact that there is no such thing as direct supervision even if you are in the same room all the time Also I have seen the FAA just as uneasy mostly because they as a whole are far from qualified to judge most antiques

Well hope this fills a small gap in the ove rall picture If I can be of further help in any way please let me know

Sincerely Bob Younkin 55 Appleby Road Razorback Airport Fayetteville Arkansas 72701 26

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wings were removed I had a hundred questions to ask but thought better of it I poured some more coffee and listened to a tale about which one should write a book then make a movie As my friend reshyvealed his story of where this airplane was when he found it why it got there how he moved it to its present location and what sti ll remained to be done to get it out of the wilderness I realized a once in a lifetime adventure was unfolding here

Some readers will by now know my friend with the photo was Mr J D Berry for he briefly wrote of and had a photo of this subject Stinson in an Antique Airplane Association magazine some years ago This was 1970 when he informed me of this airshyplane and told me his story Ever since then I have been hoping he would write a complete story about his ten year ordeal to recover this rare bird He has not chosen to do so as of this date nor will I write of the COMPLETE story here I would however like to share the portion of this adventure in which I was personally involved along with some rare photos I took for those interested in Stinson history

I have always had a special interest in the Stinson airplane Twenty years ago I bought my first Stinson It was a 108-1 model Voyager I owned three other 108 series after that and some of the most pleasurable hours I have ever spent flying was in the left front seat of a Stinson Gull Wing I onee owned The publicashytion entitled THE STINSONS by John W Underwood is an excellent reference for the Stinson buff It contains good photos and history of all three models of tri-motors built by the Stinson Company In another of Mr Underwoods books titled THE VINTAGE AND VETERAN AIRCRAFT GUIDE there appears on page 42 a model A tri-motor with a caption which states N15165 is the last surviving model A N15165 is the airshyplane in the photos on these pages There is also a fine discription of the model A Stinson ATC 556 in Mr Joseph P Juptners book titled U S CIVIL AIRshyCRAFT VOL 6 I have not read where anyone has stated the exact number of these models produced It seems however some 35 were manufactured of which the prototype was first flown in mid 1934 with the bulk of production in 1935 and 36 Production had ceased by 1937 and by this time the As were operatshying in many foreign countries as well as in the US namely by American Airlines Central Airlines Delta and others I can ju st barely remember seeing these airplanes when I was a kid and I have always thought the A was a very hand some airplane The model A specifications and performance data were very impressive for it s time and they were well built

Arrival a t th e village of Nena na (Note huge tu g boats req uired to move the se barges and their cargo)

(My associates and I are rebuilding a 1931 high wing Stinson tri-motor at present which is the same type construction as the A with 4130 ClM welded steel tubing fuselage as well as wing spars welded up with same material into a truss) Ribs are square aluminum tubing The only wood used is for fairings here and there But then these fine aircraft like so many others of the past gave way to the more modern method of construction such as used on the Boeing 247 and Douglas DC-2 and 3 series with all the rivits and shiny aluminum

I will be brief here with the events involving the recovery of N15165 and its subsequent rebuild as I do not wish to steal the present owner s thunder or former owners should either ever decide in the future to do a complete story of this interesting adventure

Going back to 1970 at J D s home where he first showed the photo we speculated on what the airplane might be worth I have always felt any antique was worth what some one might pay for it However thi s airplane might well be the last of its kind Then two things happen one you can begin to justify the time and dollars spent to recover it and second one can dictate the selling price If it is the only one and the prospective buyer gives you a hard time on your price simply ask him to check around on the price of these models for sa le and if he cannot make a better deal come back and see me J D indicated what he might wish to take for it however we did not make any deal at that point in time Later when I was back home in Wisconsin I w as given a price which included the airp lane being brought out to civilizat ion where one could drive a vehicle to it At the tim e I was shown a photo of the airplane which was about halfway on its middotalmost one hundred mile trip from its original loca tion sight to the nea rest road J D had all hi s equipment in the bush at the Stinson site This included a D-8 Caterpillar equipped with a dozer blade a huge sled on skids which conshytained many fifty gallon drums of fuel and oil two five ton co me alongs snowmobile many parts and hand tools and the two airpl ane wings Along with

Unloading a t Union Oil Co Dock (A magnifying g lass will make visible 75765 on the rudder )

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Th e la st pull 10 C olde n Vall e y Electric In c sub station enclosure

these he had built a six foot by twelve foot cabin for shelter mounted on skids for pulling This home away from home is called a Wanigan He would go ahead with the Cat and clear a few hundred yards of timber along the route he chose through the bush and over the ridges come back and hook up his train airplane sled and Wanigan and then unhook again and clear another path and so on The only catch to this process was that this had to be done in the winter months only as the unfrozen tundra would not hold up the Cat in the summer months And what with the break downs problems with starting and operating a diesel engine in fifty degree below zero weather uncertain ice thicknesses to cross over rivers coupled with very few hours of daylight that time of year in Alaska one wonders if any price is worth that A man all alone in this type of operation could get himself killed In fact the Cat did go through the ice once He got it free all by himshyself Another time be broke a foot in a mishap and laid in the Wanigan in that condition for ten days before a refueling plane he had ordered found him Talk about a dedicated antiquer Once again would this story not make an interesting movie And all it would require was a one man cast

I accepted J Ds asking price and had in fact made a deal with a third party here in the Lower 48 to acquire it I might add that was the first and last time I will ever be the in between man on a deal like this it cost me a very good friend and one cannot put a dollar value on that One cannot state he lost money he never had however I was offered thirty thousand dollars more for the airplane than I got for it while it was still in Alaska but then thats water over the dam I really was not in this for money J D and I only wanted to see this A find a good home and people that would rebuild her and fly it again And I understand it is being rebuilt at this time in a very professional manner

Anyway due to an almost inhuman effort the man

Dick Stouffer photo) The Stinson obviou sly required a little more than a wash and paint job

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the cat airpl ane sled and Wani gan aft e r two winters of work arriv ed on an island across th e river fro m Nenana A las ka about sixty mil es be low Fairb ank Thi s w as M ay 1972 And the ice w as b rea king up in th e swift sprin g current I ca n im ag in e J D stand in g ther e on th e b ank thinkin g if I wa~ ju st a w ee k earli er I coul d cross to th e road into town He w alked across th e ice leavin g everythin g o n th e island and advi sed me of the situ ation M eanwhil e som ethin g was takin g pl ace abo ut th at time in th at th e milit ary at Ft W ainwri ght had rece ived so m e fl y in g cranes (cargo heli copters) Th ese anim als co ul d do in a few minutes wh at takes us mo n ths in terms of moving th e tri-moto r A ft er mon ths of ca ll s pro mi ses lett ers etc w e fin all y gave up o n th e U S A rm y (The pres ident of EAA even tri ed to help but to no ava il ) I fin all y fl ew up to J D s pl ace and we worked o ut a meth od to ge t th e airp lane across th e ri ve r

Th ere was a Barge Lin e Co mpany w hi ch wint ered in N enana and w as by now ready ing the ir tu gs and barge s fo r th e summ er season of hauling fu e l and equipment to th eir custo mers vi a th e river hi ghways in Al as ka The re equipm ent is mu ch the sa me as th e tu gs and ba rges w e see o perating o n th e M iss iss ippi Tbeir base w as a sho rt d istance down strea m f ro m the Stin son site on th e island J D spo ke to them and a pri ce was agreed o n to pu sh a ba rge to th e island ti e unto th e sho re and give us a day to buil d a ramp to th e barge and load our ca rgo J D and I hired a loca l fe ll ow w ith a boa t to take us aro un d to th e bac k of th e island and we t hen spe nt five days cutting b ru sh and dragg in g every thin g to th e w ater s edge whil e w aitin g for o ur ship Th e tu g and barge ca m e in sight o n th e fi f th day but th e current was 50 st rong the tu g los t steerage and th e ba rge woun d aro un d th e tu g and fl oa ted down stream Th e crew w e nt af te r it and th e nex t day m ade it a ll th e w ay Th ey pu shed int o shore as c lose as poss ibl e and tossed heavy ca bl es as ho re whi ch we clamped aro und tree stumps w e had cut Th e crew pulled the barge with th e pow er win ches Th ey left with th e tu g aft e r th e Capt ain re min ded us he d id not w ant th e dec k o f th e barge to rn up by th e ca t W e w ere to pl ank th e tr ac ks I forgo t ho w m any million s o f doll a rs h e sa id th e ba rge co st And dont smo ke on it because th e even foo t d eep ho ld is full o f fu el fumes

W e go t ri ght to wo rk J D pu shed ton s o f dirt and trees into the ri ve r between th e sho re and th e barge Half o f it washed aw ay but fin all y enough logs and trees w ere cri ss -crossed and thi s base began to hold th e mud and dirt and soon w e had a ramp

(whi c h continued to w as h awa y) W e imm ediate ly began to pull everythin g o n board In a co upl e o f hours w e w ere all loaded ju st as our ramp vani shed What a good fee ling w e had Thi s w as 1972 M r Berry start ed thi s pro jec t a hun d red mil es away bac k i n 1961 Th e tu g captain sent a sm all boa t for us as w e w ere no t to sleep o n the ba rge

The nex t day the tu g brou ght o ur p reciou s ca rgo down strea m to th e r iv er dock of th e Uni o n O il Company M r Co ghill own er of thi s Co mpany was kin d eno ugh to le t us co mpl etely tear up hi s ya rd w ith th e ca t in th e unl oa din g process J D straightened th e ya rd o ut later w ith th e doze r b lade We pull ed everythin g to a dirt side street out of everyon es w ay and wondered where w e could store the airplan e

We d iscove red an aba ndoned e lec t r ic company powe r sub stati o n at th e edge o f town It had a cyc lo ne fence aro und it with a ga te and loc k W e found th e own e r to be Gold en Vall ey Electri c Assoc iation Inc whose offi ce was in Fairbanks W e w ent there saw Mr Boyd Ro bert s as ked and w ere given permi ss io n to use th e Nenana Station for a month signed a hol d harmless agreement and return ed to Nenan a Th en w e reali zed w e had to cross two set s of railroad trac ks with th e ca t and the airpl ane You ju st don t run a c rawler pulling an eight thou sa nd pound load on rou gh log kids across anoth er mans railro ad tracks Afshy

ter much negotiating with the local railroad depot personnel we got the okay to cross th e tracks if w e first built a bridge of planks to run on This we did and pull ed the tri-m o tor up to the pow er station ga te o nly to fi nd the ga te was too small to all ow th e airshypl ane to pass thro ugh W e got so me shove ls d ug down all aro und o ne ga te pos t until w e hit th e huge chunk of con cre te th e po st was ce mented int o Th is w e lifted o ut with th e dozer b lade W e then pull ed the airpl ane in side th e fence repl anted th e ce ment and pos t closed the ga te and locked i t I th en so ught an o ld gentlem en that li ved ac ross th e stree t and gave him some do ll ars in re turn fo r hi s sh OO ing away any peopl e he may obse rve climbing th e fence with an int eres t in o ld airpl anes

Th e nex t day w as spe nt load in g lt1 11 o f J 0 equipmen t o n a ra ilroad fl at-car fo r shi pmen t to Fairshyba nks W e later drove to Fairbanks in J Ds tru ck and too k a mu ch needed res t W e vi sit ed o th e r spots where I observed a compl ete Norse man an d a Gull Win g Stin son rotting o ut side in the element s and suffering hard knocks fr o m snow plows J D also took me to the mu seum at th e U niversit y o f Alas ka where I could have spent a co upl e days Aft er that we too k the airlin e down to An cho rage and vi sited Mr Reddin the curato r o f the Air Transportation Mu se um who gave us a sw ell tour of thi s institution

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(Dick Souffer phoo)

itting tab A into slot B is no easy task in a rebuild of his size

(Dick 5rouffer ph 00)

The monumental task is nearing comp letion and may be flying when you read this

This musellm and its contents has since burned to the ground

I then said goodbye to J D and spent the next six and a half hours inhaling Vodka martinis on a non stop jet to Chicago

The tri-motor was picked up by semi truck along with a new set of wings Mr Berry had aquired that went with the deal The airplane is being rebuilt in Crvsta Lak~ Wisconsin and should flv this summer Perh rt ps some day J D and I may watch it fly at sClIe antique meet

F-or the record Stinson NC15165 was manufactured under ATC 556 model A serial No 9125 Engines were Lycoming (3) model R-680-5 260 hp each engines serials were Rt 2-1292 Lt 2-1400 ten 2-1290 Number of crew and passengers 9 PCLM

Delivered to original owner February 28 1936 American Airlines Inc 4848 West 63 Street Chicago Illinois

Ship damaged at Washington D C on June 8 1936 when a drunk drove a car into the tail while th e ship was parked near a hanger at the Washington ai rport

On November 2 1939 the total time on thi s aircraft was given as 223403 hours

Sold to Lavery Airways William L Lavery Fairshybanks Alaska April 27 1940

Sold to Raymond I Peterson DBA Ray Peterson Flying Service Anchorage Alaska September 14 1942

Sold to Ray Peterson Flying Service Raymond I Peterson Marie Antoinette Peterson Glen I Dillard Anchorage Alaska April 26 1944

Crashed November 1947 No details given On February 19 1948 so ld to Northern Conshy

so lidated Airlines Inc Box 1439 Anchorage Alaska Remarks Delivered to American Airlines M arch 2 1936

NC Licenses iss ued to expire 3-1-37 3-1-38 3-15-39 and 11-15-40 On 11-14-40 license NC-15165 approved for one year Aircraft disapproved for license on 10-30-42 due to bad original fabric Ship approved for license on 5-15-43 for one year

The next chapter is for Mr J D Berry to write should he wish to do so

For five years now I have sought and acquired what I believe is a complete listing of every serial number of the Stinson A models produced I followed one rumor and found some bones of an A model I believe there are two more in existence in what condition I do not know however I am going to find out Who knows

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jN4D Ken Hyde (above) from Canadian Aeroplane Company Ltd Can 66 - W Air Force Museum Wright Patterson AFB Dayton OH (not same as W above) 20 sheets 17 x 22 ga and structure from factory drawings - Charles F Schultz 910 Broadfields Drive Louisville KY 40207 23 draWings incomplete but good coverage shyGordon E Codding 4572 W 147 Street Lawnshydale California Rep rinted operating m anual $3 00 - Aviation Publi cat ion s 2036 Ludin gton Avenue Milwaukee Wisconsin

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Catalogue of Original Tracings of Aircraft and Engines Designed and Built by the RAE 1911-1918 assembled by Wing Commander NHF Unwin from Public Records Office Chancery L ne London UK Drawings are listed by aircraft type subject of drawing and drawing number any can be bought separately The SE5A set is complete (of RAF SE5A above) Types for which at least some drawings are available

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RAF BE1-5 7-1012 RAF CE1 RAF FE1-9 12 RAF NE1 RAF HAM I RAF Hydro-Aeroplane 17 RAF HRE 2 RAF RE1 3 5-9 RAF BS1 RAF SE1 2 4 4a 5 5a RAF TE1

EAAs Aviation Museum has built a replica of its own the Ryan NX-211 Spirit of SI Louis its also sponsored construction of this replica Wright Flyer at the Blackshyhawk Technical Institute in janesville Wisconsin

of this replica Fokker DR-I Triplane which was built and shydonated by Robert H Fergus of Columbus Ohio The white paint scheme on this replica was used by Lt Hans Weiss who flew with von Richtoffen

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planes fighters up through transportw Brad Thomas JrNotice of Annual Business Meeting C-54sPilot Mountain North Carolina Today he holds a commercial licenseand Manufacturer with single and multi-engine land and Born in High Point North CarolinaElection of Officers and Directors instrument ratings and remains actively

Brad was educated at McCallie School flying with his Gyrocopter and VW powshyNotice is hereby given that an annual business Chattanooga Tennessee MIT Camshy ered Scamp both built by him a Moonshy

meeting of the members of the EAA AntiqueClassic bridge Massachusetts and High Point ey for travel and a D-17R Staggerwing Division will be held on Saturday August 5 1978 at College His flying career began at the He is currently Secretary of the Antique

age of 16 when he soloed and obtained1030 AM (Central Daylight Time) at the 26th Anshy Classic Division of EAA Oshkosh Conshynual Convention of the Experimental Aircraft Associashy his private license in 1938 The advent vention Classic Awards Chairman and tion Inc Wittman Field Oshkosh Wisconsin of World War II encouraged his enlistshy Chief Judge Secretary and Treasurer

Notice is hereby further given that the annual ment in the Army Air Corps as a pilot of EAA Chapter 8 Greensboro N C election of officers and directors of the EAA Antique He graduated from British Flying Trainshy Vice-President of EAA Antique ChapshyClassic Division will be conducted by ballot disshy ing School No5 Clewiston Florida with ter 3 and a member of their executive tributed to the members along with this June issue of both Air Corps and RAF wings was transshy committee Br-ad and his wife Ferne The Vintage Airplane Said ballot must be returned ferred to the 7th Ferry Group Air Transshy have five children of which one is an properly marked to the Ballot Tally Committee EAA port Command Great Falls Montana active oilot AntiqueClassic Division Box 229 Hales Corners where he ferried most types of Air Corps Wisconsin 53130 and received no later than August 3 1978

Ronald Fritz Chairman Nominating Committee

W Brad Thomas Jr Secretary the acquisition of his private pilot li shyEAA AntiqueClassic Division cense he immediately bought and reshy

stored his first airplane a 1946 Cessna AI Kelch 140 N72323 which had been used as Mequon Wisconsin a trainer at South Dayton Airport In

Manufacturer1953 he rebuilt and restored 1946 Cessna AI -started his own company in 1950 140 N73018 and flew it during the reshy

mainder of 1953 and 1954 During this The Kelch Corp which is now a conshysame period J R bought an extensively glomerate of 5 small manufacturing comshydamaged 1949 Cessna 170A N9730A and panies in the industrial plastic field completely rebuilt and restored it inshy AI s interest in airplanes goes back cluding splicing the parts of two fuseshy to his childhood in the 1920s when he

would sit on his fathers lap and fly iniages together to make one With the completion of the Cessna his uncles Jenny whenever the Jenny

170A in early 1955 he flew to Florida came to town barnstorming where he was hired as an AampP by the He is a lifetime member of EAA and

local Cessna distributor Sunny South AAA He was president of the WisconshyAircraft Service Later that same year sin Chapter of AAA for two terms and he joined Pan American World Airways a director of AntiqueClassic Division as a co-pilot flying Convair 240s Since of EAA for two terms He served as edishythen he has flown Douglas DC-4 6 7C tor of The Vintage Airplane magazine from

January 1976 until February 1978 8 Boeing 707 and 720 aircraft Besides J R Nielander Jr He currently owns and flies a 1939 his ATR and mechanic tickets he also Fort Lauderdale FL Piper J3 Cub which he completely re-Pan Am Pilot J R was elected vice-president of the

holds a flight navigator license stored in 1968 and a 1939 Franklin Sport

By the time he learned to fly at Lakeshy AntiqueClassic Division at its organizashy biplane which he restored in 1969 A wood Airpark Mount Healthy Ohio tional meeting on November 6 1971 1931 Travel Air 12Q will be flying this

summer and two American Eaglets and in 1951 J R had already completed He held that office until he was elected five years of university study as well president by the Board of Directors at an E2 Cub are his current restoration as one year of graduate school With their meeting on February 5 1976 projects

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Morton W Lester Martinsville Virginia Builder-Developer and Real Estate Investor

Morton is President of The Lester Corshyporation and Vice-President of Motor Imports Inc He is Executive Vice-Presishydent of the Virginia Aeronautical Hisshytorical Society and a board member of several other civic governmental busishyness and humanitarian organizations Morton was soloed by his father at the age of 10 in a Piper Cub He currently owns several prototype antiques such as the Ryan SCW Davis Low Wing Aeronca and Johnson Rocket His curshyrent ship is a civilian Howard DGA-15P He also owns a rare Travel Air 6000B which is currently undergoing restorashytion under the careful expertise of his cousin Pete Covington Morton is a Trustee of the EAA Air Museum Foundashytion and a past chairman of the Classic Judging Team of Oshkosh He is past president and current member of the executive committee of EAA Chapter 395 (NC Sc amp Va Antique Airplane Foundation) Morton and his wife Marshygaret have three children

M C Kelly Viets Stilwell Kansas Consulting Engineer Self-Employed

Kelly entered the consulting engineer field in 1938 and spent World War II designing airports and base facilities for the U S government He started his own firm Viets Consulting Engishyneers in 1954 He is a registered proshyfessional engineer and holds membershyship in numerous professional societies Kelly spent a lot of his younger days around Kansas City Municipal and Fairshyfax airports seeing Benny Howards Ike make its first flights the Travel Air Mystery Ship on the way to Cleveshyland all the early airliners etc He startshyed flight instruction in 1938 in a 55 hp Porterfield and finally got his ticket on the GI Bill in 1946 Kelly and his wife Edna own an Ercoupe and the two of them started and manage the Internashytional Ercoupe Association Their monthshyly newsletter goes out to over 550 Ershycoupe enthusiasts around the world Kelly also owns and is restoring the 14shy12 Bellanca that was used as the protoshytype for the 14-13 series He is a Director of EAAs Antique-Classic Division Kelly and Edna have 3 children

Art Morgan Milwaukee Wisconsin Oster Service Division

Art Morgan began flying in 1961 and received his private license in 1962 In 1965 he went on to get his commercial rating

He has been a member of EAA since 1962 and was parking airplanes at Rockshyford Illinois

Art was one of the first to start buildshying a KR-1 and although he did not complete his project he was instrumenshytal in the completion of two of the little birds

In 1974 he and his wife Kate purchased a 1939 Luscombe 8-C which he promptly rebuilt After two years of flying the Lusshycombe Art and several friends organshyized the American Luscombe Club

Art has served the EAA as a museum volunteer for several years as Classic parking chairman at Oshkosh and also as Antique-Classic parking chairman

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I Pioneer Northwest pilot Eclith Fol tz lVel 1 neltive of Dallas maiden name - 1agali She learned to I) in Portlaml Oregon Fel)(uar) of l)l8

l IJdrntormecl a long-wing Edglerock (OX-5) middotkCfuirec License 5nOO and lVas th e fifth US wOlllan to ohtain the Transport rlIing

J Barnstorming the Northwest - Pilot Greenwood in a Ryan Brougham and Edith in the OX-5 Eaglerock

4 Edith placed second in the light-plane division of the first Nashytional Womens Air Derby 1929 Santa Monica to Cleveland flying an Alexander Eaglerock Bullet (Kinner engine) Charter member of the 99s

5 May 1930 - Edith christening The Romer new five-passenger airplane manufactured by the National Aircraft Corp Beavershyton Oregon

Vintag The Flying life

Compile (Special thanks to Paulin sharing Edith Sterns scr

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1 I Edith Stearns in structed Naval and Kingsv ille TX after WWII with Pauline Glasson Decease

Album m es of Edith Foltz Stearns ~ I enn Bu ff ington on of Co rp us Chr isti Texas fo r ( w ith us - also to I B Decker the photos)

ts in ins trum ent flying at Corpus Christi eel the 52 and 53 Powder Puff Derbies 956 ending a brillidnt flying career

Edith served as th e first Northwest Section Governor of the 99s - and she also w as Oregon Governor of the National Aeronautics Assn in the ea rl y ]Os She flew a Kinner Bird in the 3 7 and 32 derbies both from Sa nta Monica to Cleveland (4th in 3 7 and 2nd in 32 in th e women s division)

7 Edith and her son Richard Foltz age 6 in 793 7 a t Portland Oregon

8 7932 a t Cleveland Na tiona l Air Races (L to R) Vio la Gentry G ladys ODonn ell Florence Klingensmith Frank Phillips Edith Foltz Stearns and Frances Marsalis taken with Phillips Woolshyaroc Trophy Edith flew th e Bird to 2nd place in the Amelia Earhart Trophy Race (pylons) 1932 Klingesmith was first in a Monoco upe

9 Sk irts ~a flyin Edith Foltz Stea rns models one or her trade-marked FoIZLIp flying lOgs which eas il y converted to st reet wear - 7 932

I O Edith managed a new feeder airl in e a t Portshyland dnd taught prim ary CPT at Salem prior to WWII - se rved in En g land as a Firs t Officer in the Air Tran sport Aux iliary here in uniform

(Fred Chew photo)

Bills Cessna 140 slips through a quick left turn in a test of-rhe new splas h rails

A Harbor for Classics By David Gustafson Editor

Some fo lks would argue that Bali Hi is a mythical Island out in the South Pacific where the best in life is an everyday affair There are a few peoplehowshyever who would be inclined to suggest that the protoshytype model for Bali Hi can be found on the Southshyeast corner of Stafford Pond in Westport Masshysachusetts Thats where Bill Walsh lives What makes it special Well hes got several acres of land in the secluded inlet of a clear lake He doesn t have palm trees though his Norwegian pines give the same effect on a warm and breezy summer night To improve the natural scene Bill put in a dock laid down some railroad track for a movable ramp that can be winched right into the hangar he erected 200

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feet from the water Naturally there has to be someshything to place in the hangar so Bills lined the walls with tools and bending brakes The space thats left is reserved for his Cessna 140 Floatplane and the Aeronca Sedan hes rebuilding so he can be a twoshyfloatplane family

The Cessna 140 was built in 1948 and sent directly from Wichita to Sea Wings of Connecticut for conshyversion to floats It was then sold with floats and wheels With the stock Continental 85 horsepower engine the plane was marginal as a hot day aquatic performer Getting off the surf with two husky adults when its over 75 degrees out is a groaning process Some of the problem relates to the high speed airshy

foil that works nicely in cruise but does little to generate the kind of take-off lift you get in someshything like a Cub or Champ Even as a ground plane the Cessna requires a long take-off roll

Once airborne however the 140 levels off to a respectable 90 mph with a corkscrew that measures a wide 76 x 38 Bill s hoping to swap the C-85 someday for an 0-200 so he can take up so me of his fat friends in the mint julip season

As fa r as skidding around the pond Bill reports theres very little difference between the 140 and comshyparably sized float planes Of course the take-off runs lon ge r but once airborne (40-45 mph ) it climb s well and flies with much greater stability than a

land model The floats give it a big plane feeling says Bill

Stalls with a floating 140 are similar to the land configuration and intentional spins are strictly verbotten

When Bill bought the plane in 1963 it was on the floats but he couldnt get it off the water The floats leaked Experimentation revealed that the keel opened up on a take-off run so they were replaced Later he added spray rails which eliminated the center wake and brought the plane up onto the step quicker

In the wintertime the floats are replaced with skis and Bill goes out to race the ice boats Between

he floats and the skis the wheels havent been on the 140 for several years now When he wants to bounce around a paved runway he heads off to Fall River Airport haul s out a 170-B (of which he owns 1115th) and renews his acquaintance with toe brakes and squealing rubber

Like a growing number of people in EAA Bill divides his time between flying one project and tinkershying with another Hes lucky enough to have an Aeronca 15 AC Sedan as that other project He picked it up a couple years ago at a price that would take the wind out of some people Ask anyone who knows Bill or his close friend Fred Chew and theyll tell you that those two guys deserve a special suit that says SUPER-SCROUNGERS across the chest They have uncanny talents at picking up materials for nothing or next to it More than once in recent history theyve plucked chicken feathers out of an old Continental or Lycoming that was retrieved from the dark corner of a barn for around $100 (Actually Bills just finished a two-year term as President of EAA Chapter 51 in Middletown Rhode Island and Freds still the Chapter Designee - they have both done an excellent job)

When the opportunity arose they dickered and diddled and sang the song of a snake charmer until they could come home with a smile and that particular Sedan

Naturally the plane needed a little work The previous owner had argued with a pine tree The tree not only won but took the left wing as a prize The Aeronca was apparently so shocked by the action that it pulled back and stood up on the right wing as if to say I beg your pardon When things got back to level the right tip was mashed

How many times do you suppose guys like Bill and Fred have set out to unbend a wing but wound

(Fred Chew photo)

Off and flying the 140 is a marginal performer on hot days with a full load

(Fred Chew photo)

This Cessna 140 has been a regular feature in Bills back- yard for 15 years

up rebuilding the entire machine You can add their names to the list

One thing Bill quickly points out is that he and Fred are not engaged in a full-scale down-to-theshylast-screw restoration project Nope When it flies again i t will still be clearly recognizable as an Aeronca Sedan but there are some (approved ) changes in store Most obvious is the addition of brackets for float struts A presto-change-o routine with a few bolts will convert the plane from land to sea or vice versa

Conveniently it so happened that the greatest crash damage occurred on the left side Fred happily ripped out the bent tubes bent a few new ones and followed the STC cookbook for installing a left side door that opens upwards to the wing Its an approved mod for a seaplane configuration

(David Gustafson photo) Progress in the rebuild ing effort is evi shydent in this shot o f th e Sedan th e left wing attachment has been repaired the fusel age has been blas ted and primed the new left door frame is complete and a new headlin er s being installed

(Fred Chew photo) after abrupt removshy

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Each of the large metal wings originally contained 20 gallon rubber gas bladders (say that three times) and both leaked after the crash Replacement cost was $700 apiece so the wing panels were torn off and Fred bent up a couple of metal tanks that are larger than the originals Between the tanks and the twisted metal from the crash Fred figures hes disshymantled at least 80 per cent of the wings and replaced 50 per cent of the total materials Included are a number of ribs shaped by hand on wooden formers which were also hand etched from the pieces bound for the junk heap That translates into a lot of aluminum the wing span is 376 with a chord in excess of 5 feet which produces 200 square feet of wing area In the end Fred will be able to reproduce any curved part of the Sedans wing and yes he plans to come up with quotes for others needing help (write Fred Chew 158 Meridian Street Fall River Massach usetts 02720)

With the Clark Y airfoil and a Continental 145 horsepower engine the Sedan leaps off the ground almost as fast as a two-place Cub When you turn it into a Seadan by adding a couple EDO 2000s it breaks surf suction with a simple hop skip and a slurping leap The only drawback is that with the 2000s you cant hop unless there are only two people on board With four people and full tanks the floats become submarines As a result the two resourceful metal benders who plan to build their own floats are giving serious thought to making something bigshyger

(David Gustafson photo)

Detail of the float attachment fitting

Bills Aeronca was built in 1948 and like most classics its alread~ changed hands a few times Dr Paul Nussbaum was the first to drop mud on the carpets in 49 John Ru sh moved it from Missouri to Ohio ten years later After another decade a pair of partners in Pennsylvania flew it for awhile and then left it with another partnership in New York Gerry Broskin and Harris Gordon revamped the panel and went IFR Soon after that it became the answer to a dream for Ron and Diane Rissone in Randolph Massachusetts But then there was this pine tree That brings the odyssey of N1365H to Bill Walsh hangar and private seaplane base

The next time Bills Sedan sees another runway itll obviously be sporting rebuilt wings and new float brackets in addition there ll be a new windshield all new woodwork new ceconite new headliner new used back seats (from a Tri-Pacer yet) a new panel (still IFR) and discussion has already started about a total engine overhaul

Theres one other new item in the works for the Sedan When its checked out on its wheels again there ll be a streamlined gas tank nestled in the gear bay You see Bill and Fred have promised themselves this extended tour of South America once they finish

Then the Sedan will bob in the harbor beside the Cessna and Bill can wrestle with the question which one do I fly today

(David Gustafson photo)

Fred Chew holds up the new tip hes built for the right wing

(David Gustafson photo)

Bill Walsh displys the seaplane door thats being installed on the left side of th e Sedan

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Restoration Tips a photo essay provided by

Fred Chew 158 Meridian St

Fall River Mass 02720

(Note Freds kept an exce llent photo record of the process of rebuilding the wings for Bill Walshs Aeronca Sedan It gives a good idea of how to do it and how much works involved)

No2 - Teardown reveals the damage No4 - Line up new to old

No 1 - Last step before rebuilding

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Aeronca Sedan spar repair 7976 (Right wing) No5 - Extrusion repair

No8 - Removing old section No 10 - Repair of extrusion spar No6 - Horizontal-line up

No7 - New piece made ready for hole flare No9 - Ready for spar extrusion repair No 17 - New piece in place for riveting

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No 12 - Nose rib in place No 15 - Form to fit inside of old damaged spar tip rib NO 78 - Hand form mg

No 73 - C1eco nose rib to spa r No 16 - 032 alclad ready to be clamped in form No 79 - Flanging spar tip

No 74 - Ready to repair rear spar No 77 - Form ready for hand bending jig for lightening holes No 20 - More of same 22

No 27 - Trim off excess flange No 24 - Test fit to spar No 27 - 032 alclad 2024 TJ

No 22 - Trim square to form No 25 - Fly cutting lightening holes No 28 - Spar tip ready for installation

No 23 - Remove from form No 26 - Flanging No 29 - Clecos test line up 23

The Babv Cessna

It was born in Wichita Kansas at the Cessna fac-shytory in 1929 Because of the stock market slump the Airplane manufacturing business fell off drasshytically To try and keep the plant in operation Eldon Cessna decided to design and build a light airplane that could be sold at a low price As a result the EC-1 was developed It was powered with a 25 hp Cleone engine

At the time I was enrolled at the Braley School of Flying which was located directly across the road to the east of the Cessna field I spent much of my spare time at the field watching the men work on and fly the Baby Cessna It was a fascinating little airplane

Early last year I was looking for a suitable airshyplane to model for a C02 Powered model airplane contest I remembered the Baby Cessna and thought it would be just what I wanted

In doing research for drawings and photos I found that photos of both the EC-1 and the EC-2 were available but no drawings I had a photo of the EC-1 that I had taken with my Brownie box camera The EC-2 looked cleaner with its design refinements and the Aeronca E-107 engine

I met Eldon Cessna at-an OX5 get-to-gether at the Santa Paula Airport and we discussed the EC-2 at length He informed me that plans had never been published The EC-2 (cn 253 N405W) was the last Baby Cessna built

From the photos and from memory of being around the Baby Cessna these plans for a model were drawn Imagine what a delightful fun airplane it would be for a homebuilt replica project today These specifications appeared in the 1930 issue of Air Age magazine

Baby Cessna EC-2 (cn253 N405W) 30 hp Aeronca E-707A

bull 1

Baby Cessna EC-7 (cn 257 N403W) 25 hp Cleone 1930

By Cedric Calloway EAA 752

74624 Willow Street Hesperia CA 92345

~ --~ THE BABY CESSNA

Span 34 ft 11 in Wing area 163 sq ft Length overall 20 ft 4 in Height overall bull 5 ft 6 in Weights

Empty 470 Ibs Gross 925 Ibs

Gasoline capacity 8 gal Oil capacity 34 gal Power (Aeronca E-107A) 30 hp

PERFORMANCE

High speed 86 mph Cruising speed 70 mph Stalling speed 38 mph Climb first minute 740 ft Ceiling (service) 15000 ft Cruising range 200 miles

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1 I~rlII~llS Dear Sir

I am trying to get information on an aircraft that was built during the 20s called the Golden Eagle Chief It was a parasol wing powered by a radial engine type unshyknown Only about seven were built If any of your Antique classic division members know anything about this aircraft I would like to get in touch with them

I would like to take this opportunity to express what an outstanding organization I think the EAA is Ive only been a member for three years and only regret the years before I joined SPORT AVIATION is one of the best publications that I have ever read I have been to Oshkosh twice and to quite a few local fly-ins including Sun N Fun and have never seen anything more organized or better run I am looking forward to Oshkosh 78 and to continued membership in a fine organization

Sincerely james E Spradley (EAA 108947) PO Box 146 Rutledge Alabama 36071

Dear Mr Nielander Your editorial in the February issue of The Vinshy

tage Airplane is the best expression of the question of who is really qualified to maintain antique and classic aircraft (this applies equally well to some curshyrent aircraft such as the Bellanca Viking etc)

I submit the following recommendation as a way to offset some of the difficulties expressed in your excellent editorial to wit

The FAA should grant an A and E (or P) mechanics license to an individual who meets the following qualifications

(1) Passes three written examinations now required for the rating

(2) Passes the practical examination currently reshyquired

(3) Can show that he has actually done the major portion of the work in the restoration of an antique or classic airplane

You will note that the difference between these requirements and the current FAR part 65 requireshyments is the modification of sec 6577 which relates to on-the-job or schooling experience

From my own experience in restoring three airshyplanes (Luscombe Stinson Reliant Beechcraft B17L) I know that the amount of honest-to-God airplane and engine work in the usual restoration project is in exshycess of the stuff that the students in the approved

mechanic schools get Moreover during the 30 months practical experience referred to in FAR 6577 a lot of that time is spent just removing cowlings cleanshying sparkplugs changing tires sweeping floors pumpshying gas and plowing snow I guess what Im trying to do is build a case which shows that the antique classic restorer or homebuilder knows just as much about airplanes in general as does the individual who qualifies under the current provisions of FAR sec 6577

Very truly yours Thomas R Rench 1601 Circlewood Drive Racine Wisconsin 53402

Dear AI Perhaps I can shed a little light on the centershy

fold of the February issue of The Vintage Airplane The two planes pictured in the center of the page

are Top picture Wright Martin (Loening) M-8 Botshytom picture is an Ansaldo SVA-5 or SVA-9

The Loen ing was manufactured by the Wright Marshytin Corp and was built in 1921-1922 The factory deSignation was M-8

The Army Air Service designation was PW-2 PWshy2A and PW-2B Two of the PW-2 model were built in 1921 Gross weight was 2788 Ibs span 39 8 length 24 2 Ten of the PW-2A model were ordered by the Air Service but the order was cancelled after four were built in 1922 Gross weight was 2799 Ibs span 39 9 length 26 1

The PW2B was evaluated in 1922 but was never built Gross weight was to be 2976 Ibs span 34 1 length 23 4

PW-2 and PW-2A were powered by the Wright Martin H of 320 hp which was a Hisso built under license The PW2-B was to be powered by a 350 hp Packard engine

The Ansaldo can be either an SVA-5 or SVA-9 as the front view doesnt show whether it is a two place or single place The SVA-5 was single place while the SVA-9 was two place Both were powered by the Breda SPA-6A engine which was 6 cylinders and rated at 200 hp at 1600 rpm

I understand that there is an SVA-5 in a museum in Connecticut but I am not sure of this

Hope this information will be of some use to you Best regards H M Harkcom Harkcom Aircraft Service Rt 1 Inola Oklahoma

Dear AI In the February issue j R Nielander wrote an in shy

teresting editorial concerning the possibilities in the area of personal certification of antique aircraft by the owner restorer

Without blowing my own horn too loud I have worked with antiquers and others for the last 28 years doing what j R talks about signing off work for non-rated owners A lot of these people are really sharp and most do above average work and should be allowed to cut it on their own somehow

I think the key to this thing is for the FAA to set up a program whereby the interested antiquer could satisfy them that he is qualified to restore and mainshytain his antique This may not be as far away from FAA thinking as one might imagine as there has been talk around for some time at lower levels that the AampE ratings cover too much area for the average mechanic In other words the thinking in some areas of the FAA is that specialized ratings might be needed to have better qualified people in the field where needed If this thinking is still being kicked around in the FAA then the people in the antique field would fit into the thinking already floating around

A specialized rating for antiquers that covered about what was in old manual 18 would not be diffi shycult to qualify for I would favor two ratings along the lines of the AampP If an antiquer did not want to get into the mechanics of engines he could go after an airframe rating only If he wanted to be able to annual his antique then of course he would have to hold both tickets To satisfy the FARs and the inshysurance companies I think the antique rating apshyproach has good merit

I have talked to several antiquers not rated and they all said that they would be happy to work toshyward a limited type rating that would allow them unrestricted labor on their own aircraft They all feel that they should have this opportunity and I concur I have not always been happy to sign off work as an IA due to the fact that there is no such thing as direct supervision even if you are in the same room all the time Also I have seen the FAA just as uneasy mostly because they as a whole are far from qualified to judge most antiques

Well hope this fills a small gap in the ove rall picture If I can be of further help in any way please let me know

Sincerely Bob Younkin 55 Appleby Road Razorback Airport Fayetteville Arkansas 72701 26

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Page 5: Vintage Airplane - Jun 1978

Arrival a t th e village of Nena na (Note huge tu g boats req uired to move the se barges and their cargo)

(My associates and I are rebuilding a 1931 high wing Stinson tri-motor at present which is the same type construction as the A with 4130 ClM welded steel tubing fuselage as well as wing spars welded up with same material into a truss) Ribs are square aluminum tubing The only wood used is for fairings here and there But then these fine aircraft like so many others of the past gave way to the more modern method of construction such as used on the Boeing 247 and Douglas DC-2 and 3 series with all the rivits and shiny aluminum

I will be brief here with the events involving the recovery of N15165 and its subsequent rebuild as I do not wish to steal the present owner s thunder or former owners should either ever decide in the future to do a complete story of this interesting adventure

Going back to 1970 at J D s home where he first showed the photo we speculated on what the airplane might be worth I have always felt any antique was worth what some one might pay for it However thi s airplane might well be the last of its kind Then two things happen one you can begin to justify the time and dollars spent to recover it and second one can dictate the selling price If it is the only one and the prospective buyer gives you a hard time on your price simply ask him to check around on the price of these models for sa le and if he cannot make a better deal come back and see me J D indicated what he might wish to take for it however we did not make any deal at that point in time Later when I was back home in Wisconsin I w as given a price which included the airp lane being brought out to civilizat ion where one could drive a vehicle to it At the tim e I was shown a photo of the airplane which was about halfway on its middotalmost one hundred mile trip from its original loca tion sight to the nea rest road J D had all hi s equipment in the bush at the Stinson site This included a D-8 Caterpillar equipped with a dozer blade a huge sled on skids which conshytained many fifty gallon drums of fuel and oil two five ton co me alongs snowmobile many parts and hand tools and the two airpl ane wings Along with

Unloading a t Union Oil Co Dock (A magnifying g lass will make visible 75765 on the rudder )

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Th e la st pull 10 C olde n Vall e y Electric In c sub station enclosure

these he had built a six foot by twelve foot cabin for shelter mounted on skids for pulling This home away from home is called a Wanigan He would go ahead with the Cat and clear a few hundred yards of timber along the route he chose through the bush and over the ridges come back and hook up his train airplane sled and Wanigan and then unhook again and clear another path and so on The only catch to this process was that this had to be done in the winter months only as the unfrozen tundra would not hold up the Cat in the summer months And what with the break downs problems with starting and operating a diesel engine in fifty degree below zero weather uncertain ice thicknesses to cross over rivers coupled with very few hours of daylight that time of year in Alaska one wonders if any price is worth that A man all alone in this type of operation could get himself killed In fact the Cat did go through the ice once He got it free all by himshyself Another time be broke a foot in a mishap and laid in the Wanigan in that condition for ten days before a refueling plane he had ordered found him Talk about a dedicated antiquer Once again would this story not make an interesting movie And all it would require was a one man cast

I accepted J Ds asking price and had in fact made a deal with a third party here in the Lower 48 to acquire it I might add that was the first and last time I will ever be the in between man on a deal like this it cost me a very good friend and one cannot put a dollar value on that One cannot state he lost money he never had however I was offered thirty thousand dollars more for the airplane than I got for it while it was still in Alaska but then thats water over the dam I really was not in this for money J D and I only wanted to see this A find a good home and people that would rebuild her and fly it again And I understand it is being rebuilt at this time in a very professional manner

Anyway due to an almost inhuman effort the man

Dick Stouffer photo) The Stinson obviou sly required a little more than a wash and paint job

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the cat airpl ane sled and Wani gan aft e r two winters of work arriv ed on an island across th e river fro m Nenana A las ka about sixty mil es be low Fairb ank Thi s w as M ay 1972 And the ice w as b rea king up in th e swift sprin g current I ca n im ag in e J D stand in g ther e on th e b ank thinkin g if I wa~ ju st a w ee k earli er I coul d cross to th e road into town He w alked across th e ice leavin g everythin g o n th e island and advi sed me of the situ ation M eanwhil e som ethin g was takin g pl ace abo ut th at time in th at th e milit ary at Ft W ainwri ght had rece ived so m e fl y in g cranes (cargo heli copters) Th ese anim als co ul d do in a few minutes wh at takes us mo n ths in terms of moving th e tri-moto r A ft er mon ths of ca ll s pro mi ses lett ers etc w e fin all y gave up o n th e U S A rm y (The pres ident of EAA even tri ed to help but to no ava il ) I fin all y fl ew up to J D s pl ace and we worked o ut a meth od to ge t th e airp lane across th e ri ve r

Th ere was a Barge Lin e Co mpany w hi ch wint ered in N enana and w as by now ready ing the ir tu gs and barge s fo r th e summ er season of hauling fu e l and equipment to th eir custo mers vi a th e river hi ghways in Al as ka The re equipm ent is mu ch the sa me as th e tu gs and ba rges w e see o perating o n th e M iss iss ippi Tbeir base w as a sho rt d istance down strea m f ro m the Stin son site on th e island J D spo ke to them and a pri ce was agreed o n to pu sh a ba rge to th e island ti e unto th e sho re and give us a day to buil d a ramp to th e barge and load our ca rgo J D and I hired a loca l fe ll ow w ith a boa t to take us aro un d to th e bac k of th e island and we t hen spe nt five days cutting b ru sh and dragg in g every thin g to th e w ater s edge whil e w aitin g for o ur ship Th e tu g and barge ca m e in sight o n th e fi f th day but th e current was 50 st rong the tu g los t steerage and th e ba rge woun d aro un d th e tu g and fl oa ted down stream Th e crew w e nt af te r it and th e nex t day m ade it a ll th e w ay Th ey pu shed int o shore as c lose as poss ibl e and tossed heavy ca bl es as ho re whi ch we clamped aro und tree stumps w e had cut Th e crew pulled the barge with th e pow er win ches Th ey left with th e tu g aft e r th e Capt ain re min ded us he d id not w ant th e dec k o f th e barge to rn up by th e ca t W e w ere to pl ank th e tr ac ks I forgo t ho w m any million s o f doll a rs h e sa id th e ba rge co st And dont smo ke on it because th e even foo t d eep ho ld is full o f fu el fumes

W e go t ri ght to wo rk J D pu shed ton s o f dirt and trees into the ri ve r between th e sho re and th e barge Half o f it washed aw ay but fin all y enough logs and trees w ere cri ss -crossed and thi s base began to hold th e mud and dirt and soon w e had a ramp

(whi c h continued to w as h awa y) W e imm ediate ly began to pull everythin g o n board In a co upl e o f hours w e w ere all loaded ju st as our ramp vani shed What a good fee ling w e had Thi s w as 1972 M r Berry start ed thi s pro jec t a hun d red mil es away bac k i n 1961 Th e tu g captain sent a sm all boa t for us as w e w ere no t to sleep o n the ba rge

The nex t day the tu g brou ght o ur p reciou s ca rgo down strea m to th e r iv er dock of th e Uni o n O il Company M r Co ghill own er of thi s Co mpany was kin d eno ugh to le t us co mpl etely tear up hi s ya rd w ith th e ca t in th e unl oa din g process J D straightened th e ya rd o ut later w ith th e doze r b lade We pull ed everythin g to a dirt side street out of everyon es w ay and wondered where w e could store the airplan e

We d iscove red an aba ndoned e lec t r ic company powe r sub stati o n at th e edge o f town It had a cyc lo ne fence aro und it with a ga te and loc k W e found th e own e r to be Gold en Vall ey Electri c Assoc iation Inc whose offi ce was in Fairbanks W e w ent there saw Mr Boyd Ro bert s as ked and w ere given permi ss io n to use th e Nenana Station for a month signed a hol d harmless agreement and return ed to Nenan a Th en w e reali zed w e had to cross two set s of railroad trac ks with th e ca t and the airpl ane You ju st don t run a c rawler pulling an eight thou sa nd pound load on rou gh log kids across anoth er mans railro ad tracks Afshy

ter much negotiating with the local railroad depot personnel we got the okay to cross th e tracks if w e first built a bridge of planks to run on This we did and pull ed the tri-m o tor up to the pow er station ga te o nly to fi nd the ga te was too small to all ow th e airshypl ane to pass thro ugh W e got so me shove ls d ug down all aro und o ne ga te pos t until w e hit th e huge chunk of con cre te th e po st was ce mented int o Th is w e lifted o ut with th e dozer b lade W e then pull ed the airpl ane in side th e fence repl anted th e ce ment and pos t closed the ga te and locked i t I th en so ught an o ld gentlem en that li ved ac ross th e stree t and gave him some do ll ars in re turn fo r hi s sh OO ing away any peopl e he may obse rve climbing th e fence with an int eres t in o ld airpl anes

Th e nex t day w as spe nt load in g lt1 11 o f J 0 equipmen t o n a ra ilroad fl at-car fo r shi pmen t to Fairshyba nks W e later drove to Fairbanks in J Ds tru ck and too k a mu ch needed res t W e vi sit ed o th e r spots where I observed a compl ete Norse man an d a Gull Win g Stin son rotting o ut side in the element s and suffering hard knocks fr o m snow plows J D also took me to the mu seum at th e U niversit y o f Alas ka where I could have spent a co upl e days Aft er that we too k the airlin e down to An cho rage and vi sited Mr Reddin the curato r o f the Air Transportation Mu se um who gave us a sw ell tour of thi s institution

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(Dick Souffer phoo)

itting tab A into slot B is no easy task in a rebuild of his size

(Dick 5rouffer ph 00)

The monumental task is nearing comp letion and may be flying when you read this

This musellm and its contents has since burned to the ground

I then said goodbye to J D and spent the next six and a half hours inhaling Vodka martinis on a non stop jet to Chicago

The tri-motor was picked up by semi truck along with a new set of wings Mr Berry had aquired that went with the deal The airplane is being rebuilt in Crvsta Lak~ Wisconsin and should flv this summer Perh rt ps some day J D and I may watch it fly at sClIe antique meet

F-or the record Stinson NC15165 was manufactured under ATC 556 model A serial No 9125 Engines were Lycoming (3) model R-680-5 260 hp each engines serials were Rt 2-1292 Lt 2-1400 ten 2-1290 Number of crew and passengers 9 PCLM

Delivered to original owner February 28 1936 American Airlines Inc 4848 West 63 Street Chicago Illinois

Ship damaged at Washington D C on June 8 1936 when a drunk drove a car into the tail while th e ship was parked near a hanger at the Washington ai rport

On November 2 1939 the total time on thi s aircraft was given as 223403 hours

Sold to Lavery Airways William L Lavery Fairshybanks Alaska April 27 1940

Sold to Raymond I Peterson DBA Ray Peterson Flying Service Anchorage Alaska September 14 1942

Sold to Ray Peterson Flying Service Raymond I Peterson Marie Antoinette Peterson Glen I Dillard Anchorage Alaska April 26 1944

Crashed November 1947 No details given On February 19 1948 so ld to Northern Conshy

so lidated Airlines Inc Box 1439 Anchorage Alaska Remarks Delivered to American Airlines M arch 2 1936

NC Licenses iss ued to expire 3-1-37 3-1-38 3-15-39 and 11-15-40 On 11-14-40 license NC-15165 approved for one year Aircraft disapproved for license on 10-30-42 due to bad original fabric Ship approved for license on 5-15-43 for one year

The next chapter is for Mr J D Berry to write should he wish to do so

For five years now I have sought and acquired what I believe is a complete listing of every serial number of the Stinson A models produced I followed one rumor and found some bones of an A model I believe there are two more in existence in what condition I do not know however I am going to find out Who knows

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WORLD WAR I ERA REPLICA PLANS

Compiled by Leonard Opdycke

15 Crescent Rd Poughkeepsie NY 12601

Reprinted WWI Aeroplanes

FOR YOUR INFORMATION (Abb reviations used below H = H awker-S iddel ey Avishyation Ltd Richmond Road Kingston-upon-Thames KT2 5QS UK (Attn j Crampton Deputy Sales Mgr L50 per set of drawings for anyone aircraft)

W = Wright-Patterson AFB OH 45433 (Attn Verna M Frazier Freedom of Information Manager Adminishyst rati on Office Headquarters Aeronautical Systems Div) (AFSC) Antoinette

4 sheets of the German Albatross-b uilt version drawn by Gabriel-Sales Desk National Museum of Science and Technology 1867 St Laurent Boulevard Ottawa Ontario K1A OM8 Canada

Bellanca 1912 shyComplete set of drawings $4000 - Mike Murphy 4923 West 99 Oak Lawn Illinois 60453

Berchman B-2 Scout (1918) W (Can 482)

Bleriot XI Complete set of drawings instructions $1500 -Mel Miller 2030 Geary Albany Oregon 97321

Complete set in BUILDING AN AEROPLANE by C B Hayward 1912 rep rinted by Kings Box 17646 Nashville Tennessee 37217 ($350)

Bristol F2B A few miscellan eous drawings not enough to build from many structura l photos parts and rigging manuals operating manual - LEO WWI AEROPLANES

Bristol Scout A A xerox copy of the 500 - ser ies of drawings from Frank Barnwells own notebook (not for sale maybe recopy) - LEO WWI AEROPLANES

Bristol Scout D Many 8 x 10 sheets cop ies from orig in al Bristol factory drawings enough to build from (not for sa le maybe recopy) - LEO WWI AEROPLANES

Curtiss JN4 series jN4(Can) 35mm microfilm roll - Ken Hyde RD 1 Warrenton VA 22186

jN4D Ken Hyde (above) from Canadian Aeroplane Company Ltd Can 66 - W Air Force Museum Wright Patterson AFB Dayton OH (not same as W above) 20 sheets 17 x 22 ga and structure from factory drawings - Charles F Schultz 910 Broadfields Drive Louisville KY 40207 23 draWings incomplete but good coverage shyGordon E Codding 4572 W 147 Street Lawnshydale California Rep rinted operating m anual $3 00 - Aviation Publi cat ion s 2036 Ludin gton Avenue Milwaukee Wisconsin

jH4 From Curtiss-Wright Aeroplane and Motor Corp Can 495 - W

Curtiss 0-1 XO-1 0-2 W (Can 301)

Curtiss Pusher 34 x 48 plate showin g co nst ruction of 1910 Curtiss A-frame $1000 Herbert L Kelley 56424 Hand ley Road Yucca Valley CA 92284

Set of drawings developed from orig inal Curtiss prints $2500 Charles F Schu ltz (above)

Co mplete set fOf construction - Mel Miller (above)

Co mplete set in BUILDING AN AEROPLANE Kings (above) - but note 468 for Charles Willards cautionary note o n using these plans

Chanute Hang Glider jack Lambie 115B Merrimac Drive Anaheim California 92807

DeHaviliand 4 Dayton-Wright Aeroplane Corp (DH4 DH4B) shyW (Can 195)

Miscellaneous drawings from AF Museum (above) Fisher Body (DH4) - W (Can 191)

DeHaviliand 99A Few drawings including float models - Colin A Owers Box 241 Quirindi NSW 2343 Australia

Fokker DVII BLUE MAX DVII drawings - Harold Best-Devershyeux 11 Stonehills House Welwyn Garden City Herts UK

11 plates 34 x 48 for 1601180 Mercedes versions $11000 Herbert L Kelley (above)

AF Museum (above) 11 plates 34 x 54 $12100 with raw materials and parts to be available later - Stolp Starduster Corporat ion 4301 Twining Riverside Calif

Fokker DVIII Full set from Platz original sketches for Warner powered reproduction s E D Swearingen 40 Monee Road Park Forest Illinois

AF Museum (above) Dan-San Abbott (in process of entry for Roland DVI below)

Fokker Drl Brochure $200 and full set of working drawings for Warner reproductions Walter W Redfern Route 1 Athol Idaho 83801

10 sheets done towards a complete set each $400 plus spar and rib sets fiber-glass cowls - Ron Sands RD 1 Mertztown PA 19539

Fokker EI 1 plate 22 x 30 1 to 1 for full sca le detail f ly in g model $1000 Herbert L Kelley (above)

Fokker EIII 25 9 x 7 photos of structure of Kensington Science Museum EIII $2500 plus $100 po stage - Ed Brannon 1405 Marcella NE Albuquerque NM 87112

Fokker VI 8 plates 17 x 22 1110 sca le structure developed from photos and historical data (of 44) $2500shyHerbert L Kelley (above)

1 plate 34 x 54 1110 scale for 26 span model $1000 - Herbert L Kelley (above)

Macchi-Hanriot HD1 Drawings $12000 - Chris j Warrilow 141 Chairshyborough Road Hi gh Wycombe Bucks U K

Nieuport 17 Rozendaal drawings - Fred Kom Losy 725 Robin Way North Palm Beach Florid a 33408

Air Force Museum (above) 3 sheets $225 - National Museum of Science and Technology (above)

Nieuport 24 Walt Redford (above)

Nieuport 27 Fred Kom Losy (above) Gordon E Codding (above)

Nieuport 28C1 Air Force Museum (above)

Pfalz Dill Darnell Sitton 1925 N Vermont Avenue 7 Los Angeles CA 90027

Pfalz DXII Set of 30 fine 5 x 7 photos of the EAA Museums DXI I under reconstruction $2000 (a ircraft on permanent loan from National Air and Space Museum) Ben Owen EAA Museum Box 229 Hales Corners WI 53130 ($1500 for EAA members)

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RAF Se5A 32 photos as above $2000 ($1500 to EAA memshybers) - Ben Owen EAA Air Museum (above)

Drawings for 85 scale all-wood reproduction - Replica Plans 953 Kirkmond Crescent Richshymond BC CANADA

Air Force Museum (above) Gordon E Codding (above) Complete set from which RAF Museum ship was rebuilt - Public Records Office Chancery Lane London UK (See Note below also)

Roland DVlab 5 sheets 34 x 44 fully detailed $5000 plus postage $350 (these fine drawings reviewed this issue p2) - Dan-San Abbott 25886 Gettysburg Avenue Hayward CA 94545

Pomilio W Can 66

Sopwith Bl Baby Bulldog Buffalo Camel Condor Cuckoo Dolphin Dove Dragon Gnu Gun Bus Hippo Pup Rainbow Ram Rhino Salamander Snail Snapper Snipe 112 Strutter Swallow Tabloid Triplane

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Sopwith Camel Air Force Museum (above) Gordon E Codding (above) Clayton amp Shuttleworth drawings of F1 Some 2F1 200 drawings for $144 Chris J Warrilow (above)

Sopwith Pup GordonE Codding (above) Air Force Museum (above) 72 drawings 18 x 24 $162 00 - Smithsonian Institution Washington DC

Sopwith Triplane (110 Clerget) Clayton amp Shuttleworth drawings about 100 for $7200 Chris Warrilow (above)

S Wieser Dir Plantetarium Clagary Parks Departshyment Box 2100 Calgary Alberta Canada

Sopwith Miscellaneous Types (SS SSD2 SPGN 150 hp Smith D3 S STS STD D2 DS frS 225 Sunbeam frS 220 hp Seaplane 2FR2 50 Gnome Biplane)

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Sopwith-Kauper Gun Gear H

Spad 7 Air Museum (above) Gordon E Codding (above) Jack Hickey 1659 Willis S St Paul Minn 55705shy20 sheets for $7500

Spad 13 Gordon E Codding (above)

Sperry Messenger W (Can 289)

Standard 11 Air Force Museum (above)

Thomas-Morse S4C Air Force Museum (above) Gordon E Codding (above)

Wright Gliders 4 plates 1899 Kite 17 x 22 1900-01-02 Gliders 110 sca le 34 x 48 total $3500 - Herbert L Kelley (above)

Wright Flyer 1903 Master drawings made for construction of Kitty Hawk Memorial reproduction 21 sheets for $2200 (make check payable to Cooper-Trent) - Louis S Casey Cu rator Aircraft amp Aeronautics National Air amp Space Museum Washington DC 20560)

Notes Complete drawings for display or building the Spandau LMGO-8-15 mig 3 x 6Vz - Ray Hollings 338054 Street San Diego CA 92105

RAE TECH MEMO 4 This catalog is subtitled

The EAA Aviation Museum is now the proud owner

Catalogue of Original Tracings of Aircraft and Engines Designed and Built by the RAE 1911-1918 assembled by Wing Commander NHF Unwin from Public Records Office Chancery L ne London UK Drawings are listed by aircraft type subject of drawing and drawing number any can be bought separately The SE5A set is complete (of RAF SE5A above) Types for which at least some drawings are available

Bristol Scout Bristol F2B Cierva Autogyro DH1-69-10 Hamble Baby Handley-Page 0400

V-1500 Short 225 320 Sopwith 1 Pup Triplane

Camel Snipe Dolphin

RAF BE1-5 7-1012 RAF CE1 RAF FE1-9 12 RAF NE1 RAF HAM I RAF Hydro-Aeroplane 17 RAF HRE 2 RAF RE1 3 5-9 RAF BS1 RAF SE1 2 4 4a 5 5a RAF TE1

EAAs Aviation Museum has built a replica of its own the Ryan NX-211 Spirit of SI Louis its also sponsored construction of this replica Wright Flyer at the Blackshyhawk Technical Institute in janesville Wisconsin

of this replica Fokker DR-I Triplane which was built and shydonated by Robert H Fergus of Columbus Ohio The white paint scheme on this replica was used by Lt Hans Weiss who flew with von Richtoffen

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planes fighters up through transportw Brad Thomas JrNotice of Annual Business Meeting C-54sPilot Mountain North Carolina Today he holds a commercial licenseand Manufacturer with single and multi-engine land and Born in High Point North CarolinaElection of Officers and Directors instrument ratings and remains actively

Brad was educated at McCallie School flying with his Gyrocopter and VW powshyNotice is hereby given that an annual business Chattanooga Tennessee MIT Camshy ered Scamp both built by him a Moonshy

meeting of the members of the EAA AntiqueClassic bridge Massachusetts and High Point ey for travel and a D-17R Staggerwing Division will be held on Saturday August 5 1978 at College His flying career began at the He is currently Secretary of the Antique

age of 16 when he soloed and obtained1030 AM (Central Daylight Time) at the 26th Anshy Classic Division of EAA Oshkosh Conshynual Convention of the Experimental Aircraft Associashy his private license in 1938 The advent vention Classic Awards Chairman and tion Inc Wittman Field Oshkosh Wisconsin of World War II encouraged his enlistshy Chief Judge Secretary and Treasurer

Notice is hereby further given that the annual ment in the Army Air Corps as a pilot of EAA Chapter 8 Greensboro N C election of officers and directors of the EAA Antique He graduated from British Flying Trainshy Vice-President of EAA Antique ChapshyClassic Division will be conducted by ballot disshy ing School No5 Clewiston Florida with ter 3 and a member of their executive tributed to the members along with this June issue of both Air Corps and RAF wings was transshy committee Br-ad and his wife Ferne The Vintage Airplane Said ballot must be returned ferred to the 7th Ferry Group Air Transshy have five children of which one is an properly marked to the Ballot Tally Committee EAA port Command Great Falls Montana active oilot AntiqueClassic Division Box 229 Hales Corners where he ferried most types of Air Corps Wisconsin 53130 and received no later than August 3 1978

Ronald Fritz Chairman Nominating Committee

W Brad Thomas Jr Secretary the acquisition of his private pilot li shyEAA AntiqueClassic Division cense he immediately bought and reshy

stored his first airplane a 1946 Cessna AI Kelch 140 N72323 which had been used as Mequon Wisconsin a trainer at South Dayton Airport In

Manufacturer1953 he rebuilt and restored 1946 Cessna AI -started his own company in 1950 140 N73018 and flew it during the reshy

mainder of 1953 and 1954 During this The Kelch Corp which is now a conshysame period J R bought an extensively glomerate of 5 small manufacturing comshydamaged 1949 Cessna 170A N9730A and panies in the industrial plastic field completely rebuilt and restored it inshy AI s interest in airplanes goes back cluding splicing the parts of two fuseshy to his childhood in the 1920s when he

would sit on his fathers lap and fly iniages together to make one With the completion of the Cessna his uncles Jenny whenever the Jenny

170A in early 1955 he flew to Florida came to town barnstorming where he was hired as an AampP by the He is a lifetime member of EAA and

local Cessna distributor Sunny South AAA He was president of the WisconshyAircraft Service Later that same year sin Chapter of AAA for two terms and he joined Pan American World Airways a director of AntiqueClassic Division as a co-pilot flying Convair 240s Since of EAA for two terms He served as edishythen he has flown Douglas DC-4 6 7C tor of The Vintage Airplane magazine from

January 1976 until February 1978 8 Boeing 707 and 720 aircraft Besides J R Nielander Jr He currently owns and flies a 1939 his ATR and mechanic tickets he also Fort Lauderdale FL Piper J3 Cub which he completely re-Pan Am Pilot J R was elected vice-president of the

holds a flight navigator license stored in 1968 and a 1939 Franklin Sport

By the time he learned to fly at Lakeshy AntiqueClassic Division at its organizashy biplane which he restored in 1969 A wood Airpark Mount Healthy Ohio tional meeting on November 6 1971 1931 Travel Air 12Q will be flying this

summer and two American Eaglets and in 1951 J R had already completed He held that office until he was elected five years of university study as well president by the Board of Directors at an E2 Cub are his current restoration as one year of graduate school With their meeting on February 5 1976 projects

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Morton W Lester Martinsville Virginia Builder-Developer and Real Estate Investor

Morton is President of The Lester Corshyporation and Vice-President of Motor Imports Inc He is Executive Vice-Presishydent of the Virginia Aeronautical Hisshytorical Society and a board member of several other civic governmental busishyness and humanitarian organizations Morton was soloed by his father at the age of 10 in a Piper Cub He currently owns several prototype antiques such as the Ryan SCW Davis Low Wing Aeronca and Johnson Rocket His curshyrent ship is a civilian Howard DGA-15P He also owns a rare Travel Air 6000B which is currently undergoing restorashytion under the careful expertise of his cousin Pete Covington Morton is a Trustee of the EAA Air Museum Foundashytion and a past chairman of the Classic Judging Team of Oshkosh He is past president and current member of the executive committee of EAA Chapter 395 (NC Sc amp Va Antique Airplane Foundation) Morton and his wife Marshygaret have three children

M C Kelly Viets Stilwell Kansas Consulting Engineer Self-Employed

Kelly entered the consulting engineer field in 1938 and spent World War II designing airports and base facilities for the U S government He started his own firm Viets Consulting Engishyneers in 1954 He is a registered proshyfessional engineer and holds membershyship in numerous professional societies Kelly spent a lot of his younger days around Kansas City Municipal and Fairshyfax airports seeing Benny Howards Ike make its first flights the Travel Air Mystery Ship on the way to Cleveshyland all the early airliners etc He startshyed flight instruction in 1938 in a 55 hp Porterfield and finally got his ticket on the GI Bill in 1946 Kelly and his wife Edna own an Ercoupe and the two of them started and manage the Internashytional Ercoupe Association Their monthshyly newsletter goes out to over 550 Ershycoupe enthusiasts around the world Kelly also owns and is restoring the 14shy12 Bellanca that was used as the protoshytype for the 14-13 series He is a Director of EAAs Antique-Classic Division Kelly and Edna have 3 children

Art Morgan Milwaukee Wisconsin Oster Service Division

Art Morgan began flying in 1961 and received his private license in 1962 In 1965 he went on to get his commercial rating

He has been a member of EAA since 1962 and was parking airplanes at Rockshyford Illinois

Art was one of the first to start buildshying a KR-1 and although he did not complete his project he was instrumenshytal in the completion of two of the little birds

In 1974 he and his wife Kate purchased a 1939 Luscombe 8-C which he promptly rebuilt After two years of flying the Lusshycombe Art and several friends organshyized the American Luscombe Club

Art has served the EAA as a museum volunteer for several years as Classic parking chairman at Oshkosh and also as Antique-Classic parking chairman

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I Pioneer Northwest pilot Eclith Fol tz lVel 1 neltive of Dallas maiden name - 1agali She learned to I) in Portlaml Oregon Fel)(uar) of l)l8

l IJdrntormecl a long-wing Edglerock (OX-5) middotkCfuirec License 5nOO and lVas th e fifth US wOlllan to ohtain the Transport rlIing

J Barnstorming the Northwest - Pilot Greenwood in a Ryan Brougham and Edith in the OX-5 Eaglerock

4 Edith placed second in the light-plane division of the first Nashytional Womens Air Derby 1929 Santa Monica to Cleveland flying an Alexander Eaglerock Bullet (Kinner engine) Charter member of the 99s

5 May 1930 - Edith christening The Romer new five-passenger airplane manufactured by the National Aircraft Corp Beavershyton Oregon

Vintag The Flying life

Compile (Special thanks to Paulin sharing Edith Sterns scr

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1 I Edith Stearns in structed Naval and Kingsv ille TX after WWII with Pauline Glasson Decease

Album m es of Edith Foltz Stearns ~ I enn Bu ff ington on of Co rp us Chr isti Texas fo r ( w ith us - also to I B Decker the photos)

ts in ins trum ent flying at Corpus Christi eel the 52 and 53 Powder Puff Derbies 956 ending a brillidnt flying career

Edith served as th e first Northwest Section Governor of the 99s - and she also w as Oregon Governor of the National Aeronautics Assn in the ea rl y ]Os She flew a Kinner Bird in the 3 7 and 32 derbies both from Sa nta Monica to Cleveland (4th in 3 7 and 2nd in 32 in th e women s division)

7 Edith and her son Richard Foltz age 6 in 793 7 a t Portland Oregon

8 7932 a t Cleveland Na tiona l Air Races (L to R) Vio la Gentry G ladys ODonn ell Florence Klingensmith Frank Phillips Edith Foltz Stearns and Frances Marsalis taken with Phillips Woolshyaroc Trophy Edith flew th e Bird to 2nd place in the Amelia Earhart Trophy Race (pylons) 1932 Klingesmith was first in a Monoco upe

9 Sk irts ~a flyin Edith Foltz Stea rns models one or her trade-marked FoIZLIp flying lOgs which eas il y converted to st reet wear - 7 932

I O Edith managed a new feeder airl in e a t Portshyland dnd taught prim ary CPT at Salem prior to WWII - se rved in En g land as a Firs t Officer in the Air Tran sport Aux iliary here in uniform

(Fred Chew photo)

Bills Cessna 140 slips through a quick left turn in a test of-rhe new splas h rails

A Harbor for Classics By David Gustafson Editor

Some fo lks would argue that Bali Hi is a mythical Island out in the South Pacific where the best in life is an everyday affair There are a few peoplehowshyever who would be inclined to suggest that the protoshytype model for Bali Hi can be found on the Southshyeast corner of Stafford Pond in Westport Masshysachusetts Thats where Bill Walsh lives What makes it special Well hes got several acres of land in the secluded inlet of a clear lake He doesn t have palm trees though his Norwegian pines give the same effect on a warm and breezy summer night To improve the natural scene Bill put in a dock laid down some railroad track for a movable ramp that can be winched right into the hangar he erected 200

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feet from the water Naturally there has to be someshything to place in the hangar so Bills lined the walls with tools and bending brakes The space thats left is reserved for his Cessna 140 Floatplane and the Aeronca Sedan hes rebuilding so he can be a twoshyfloatplane family

The Cessna 140 was built in 1948 and sent directly from Wichita to Sea Wings of Connecticut for conshyversion to floats It was then sold with floats and wheels With the stock Continental 85 horsepower engine the plane was marginal as a hot day aquatic performer Getting off the surf with two husky adults when its over 75 degrees out is a groaning process Some of the problem relates to the high speed airshy

foil that works nicely in cruise but does little to generate the kind of take-off lift you get in someshything like a Cub or Champ Even as a ground plane the Cessna requires a long take-off roll

Once airborne however the 140 levels off to a respectable 90 mph with a corkscrew that measures a wide 76 x 38 Bill s hoping to swap the C-85 someday for an 0-200 so he can take up so me of his fat friends in the mint julip season

As fa r as skidding around the pond Bill reports theres very little difference between the 140 and comshyparably sized float planes Of course the take-off runs lon ge r but once airborne (40-45 mph ) it climb s well and flies with much greater stability than a

land model The floats give it a big plane feeling says Bill

Stalls with a floating 140 are similar to the land configuration and intentional spins are strictly verbotten

When Bill bought the plane in 1963 it was on the floats but he couldnt get it off the water The floats leaked Experimentation revealed that the keel opened up on a take-off run so they were replaced Later he added spray rails which eliminated the center wake and brought the plane up onto the step quicker

In the wintertime the floats are replaced with skis and Bill goes out to race the ice boats Between

he floats and the skis the wheels havent been on the 140 for several years now When he wants to bounce around a paved runway he heads off to Fall River Airport haul s out a 170-B (of which he owns 1115th) and renews his acquaintance with toe brakes and squealing rubber

Like a growing number of people in EAA Bill divides his time between flying one project and tinkershying with another Hes lucky enough to have an Aeronca 15 AC Sedan as that other project He picked it up a couple years ago at a price that would take the wind out of some people Ask anyone who knows Bill or his close friend Fred Chew and theyll tell you that those two guys deserve a special suit that says SUPER-SCROUNGERS across the chest They have uncanny talents at picking up materials for nothing or next to it More than once in recent history theyve plucked chicken feathers out of an old Continental or Lycoming that was retrieved from the dark corner of a barn for around $100 (Actually Bills just finished a two-year term as President of EAA Chapter 51 in Middletown Rhode Island and Freds still the Chapter Designee - they have both done an excellent job)

When the opportunity arose they dickered and diddled and sang the song of a snake charmer until they could come home with a smile and that particular Sedan

Naturally the plane needed a little work The previous owner had argued with a pine tree The tree not only won but took the left wing as a prize The Aeronca was apparently so shocked by the action that it pulled back and stood up on the right wing as if to say I beg your pardon When things got back to level the right tip was mashed

How many times do you suppose guys like Bill and Fred have set out to unbend a wing but wound

(Fred Chew photo)

Off and flying the 140 is a marginal performer on hot days with a full load

(Fred Chew photo)

This Cessna 140 has been a regular feature in Bills back- yard for 15 years

up rebuilding the entire machine You can add their names to the list

One thing Bill quickly points out is that he and Fred are not engaged in a full-scale down-to-theshylast-screw restoration project Nope When it flies again i t will still be clearly recognizable as an Aeronca Sedan but there are some (approved ) changes in store Most obvious is the addition of brackets for float struts A presto-change-o routine with a few bolts will convert the plane from land to sea or vice versa

Conveniently it so happened that the greatest crash damage occurred on the left side Fred happily ripped out the bent tubes bent a few new ones and followed the STC cookbook for installing a left side door that opens upwards to the wing Its an approved mod for a seaplane configuration

(David Gustafson photo) Progress in the rebuild ing effort is evi shydent in this shot o f th e Sedan th e left wing attachment has been repaired the fusel age has been blas ted and primed the new left door frame is complete and a new headlin er s being installed

(Fred Chew photo) after abrupt removshy

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Each of the large metal wings originally contained 20 gallon rubber gas bladders (say that three times) and both leaked after the crash Replacement cost was $700 apiece so the wing panels were torn off and Fred bent up a couple of metal tanks that are larger than the originals Between the tanks and the twisted metal from the crash Fred figures hes disshymantled at least 80 per cent of the wings and replaced 50 per cent of the total materials Included are a number of ribs shaped by hand on wooden formers which were also hand etched from the pieces bound for the junk heap That translates into a lot of aluminum the wing span is 376 with a chord in excess of 5 feet which produces 200 square feet of wing area In the end Fred will be able to reproduce any curved part of the Sedans wing and yes he plans to come up with quotes for others needing help (write Fred Chew 158 Meridian Street Fall River Massach usetts 02720)

With the Clark Y airfoil and a Continental 145 horsepower engine the Sedan leaps off the ground almost as fast as a two-place Cub When you turn it into a Seadan by adding a couple EDO 2000s it breaks surf suction with a simple hop skip and a slurping leap The only drawback is that with the 2000s you cant hop unless there are only two people on board With four people and full tanks the floats become submarines As a result the two resourceful metal benders who plan to build their own floats are giving serious thought to making something bigshyger

(David Gustafson photo)

Detail of the float attachment fitting

Bills Aeronca was built in 1948 and like most classics its alread~ changed hands a few times Dr Paul Nussbaum was the first to drop mud on the carpets in 49 John Ru sh moved it from Missouri to Ohio ten years later After another decade a pair of partners in Pennsylvania flew it for awhile and then left it with another partnership in New York Gerry Broskin and Harris Gordon revamped the panel and went IFR Soon after that it became the answer to a dream for Ron and Diane Rissone in Randolph Massachusetts But then there was this pine tree That brings the odyssey of N1365H to Bill Walsh hangar and private seaplane base

The next time Bills Sedan sees another runway itll obviously be sporting rebuilt wings and new float brackets in addition there ll be a new windshield all new woodwork new ceconite new headliner new used back seats (from a Tri-Pacer yet) a new panel (still IFR) and discussion has already started about a total engine overhaul

Theres one other new item in the works for the Sedan When its checked out on its wheels again there ll be a streamlined gas tank nestled in the gear bay You see Bill and Fred have promised themselves this extended tour of South America once they finish

Then the Sedan will bob in the harbor beside the Cessna and Bill can wrestle with the question which one do I fly today

(David Gustafson photo)

Fred Chew holds up the new tip hes built for the right wing

(David Gustafson photo)

Bill Walsh displys the seaplane door thats being installed on the left side of th e Sedan

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Restoration Tips a photo essay provided by

Fred Chew 158 Meridian St

Fall River Mass 02720

(Note Freds kept an exce llent photo record of the process of rebuilding the wings for Bill Walshs Aeronca Sedan It gives a good idea of how to do it and how much works involved)

No2 - Teardown reveals the damage No4 - Line up new to old

No 1 - Last step before rebuilding

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Aeronca Sedan spar repair 7976 (Right wing) No5 - Extrusion repair

No8 - Removing old section No 10 - Repair of extrusion spar No6 - Horizontal-line up

No7 - New piece made ready for hole flare No9 - Ready for spar extrusion repair No 17 - New piece in place for riveting

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No 12 - Nose rib in place No 15 - Form to fit inside of old damaged spar tip rib NO 78 - Hand form mg

No 73 - C1eco nose rib to spa r No 16 - 032 alclad ready to be clamped in form No 79 - Flanging spar tip

No 74 - Ready to repair rear spar No 77 - Form ready for hand bending jig for lightening holes No 20 - More of same 22

No 27 - Trim off excess flange No 24 - Test fit to spar No 27 - 032 alclad 2024 TJ

No 22 - Trim square to form No 25 - Fly cutting lightening holes No 28 - Spar tip ready for installation

No 23 - Remove from form No 26 - Flanging No 29 - Clecos test line up 23

The Babv Cessna

It was born in Wichita Kansas at the Cessna fac-shytory in 1929 Because of the stock market slump the Airplane manufacturing business fell off drasshytically To try and keep the plant in operation Eldon Cessna decided to design and build a light airplane that could be sold at a low price As a result the EC-1 was developed It was powered with a 25 hp Cleone engine

At the time I was enrolled at the Braley School of Flying which was located directly across the road to the east of the Cessna field I spent much of my spare time at the field watching the men work on and fly the Baby Cessna It was a fascinating little airplane

Early last year I was looking for a suitable airshyplane to model for a C02 Powered model airplane contest I remembered the Baby Cessna and thought it would be just what I wanted

In doing research for drawings and photos I found that photos of both the EC-1 and the EC-2 were available but no drawings I had a photo of the EC-1 that I had taken with my Brownie box camera The EC-2 looked cleaner with its design refinements and the Aeronca E-107 engine

I met Eldon Cessna at-an OX5 get-to-gether at the Santa Paula Airport and we discussed the EC-2 at length He informed me that plans had never been published The EC-2 (cn 253 N405W) was the last Baby Cessna built

From the photos and from memory of being around the Baby Cessna these plans for a model were drawn Imagine what a delightful fun airplane it would be for a homebuilt replica project today These specifications appeared in the 1930 issue of Air Age magazine

Baby Cessna EC-2 (cn253 N405W) 30 hp Aeronca E-707A

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Empty 470 Ibs Gross 925 Ibs

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High speed 86 mph Cruising speed 70 mph Stalling speed 38 mph Climb first minute 740 ft Ceiling (service) 15000 ft Cruising range 200 miles

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1 I~rlII~llS Dear Sir

I am trying to get information on an aircraft that was built during the 20s called the Golden Eagle Chief It was a parasol wing powered by a radial engine type unshyknown Only about seven were built If any of your Antique classic division members know anything about this aircraft I would like to get in touch with them

I would like to take this opportunity to express what an outstanding organization I think the EAA is Ive only been a member for three years and only regret the years before I joined SPORT AVIATION is one of the best publications that I have ever read I have been to Oshkosh twice and to quite a few local fly-ins including Sun N Fun and have never seen anything more organized or better run I am looking forward to Oshkosh 78 and to continued membership in a fine organization

Sincerely james E Spradley (EAA 108947) PO Box 146 Rutledge Alabama 36071

Dear Mr Nielander Your editorial in the February issue of The Vinshy

tage Airplane is the best expression of the question of who is really qualified to maintain antique and classic aircraft (this applies equally well to some curshyrent aircraft such as the Bellanca Viking etc)

I submit the following recommendation as a way to offset some of the difficulties expressed in your excellent editorial to wit

The FAA should grant an A and E (or P) mechanics license to an individual who meets the following qualifications

(1) Passes three written examinations now required for the rating

(2) Passes the practical examination currently reshyquired

(3) Can show that he has actually done the major portion of the work in the restoration of an antique or classic airplane

You will note that the difference between these requirements and the current FAR part 65 requireshyments is the modification of sec 6577 which relates to on-the-job or schooling experience

From my own experience in restoring three airshyplanes (Luscombe Stinson Reliant Beechcraft B17L) I know that the amount of honest-to-God airplane and engine work in the usual restoration project is in exshycess of the stuff that the students in the approved

mechanic schools get Moreover during the 30 months practical experience referred to in FAR 6577 a lot of that time is spent just removing cowlings cleanshying sparkplugs changing tires sweeping floors pumpshying gas and plowing snow I guess what Im trying to do is build a case which shows that the antique classic restorer or homebuilder knows just as much about airplanes in general as does the individual who qualifies under the current provisions of FAR sec 6577

Very truly yours Thomas R Rench 1601 Circlewood Drive Racine Wisconsin 53402

Dear AI Perhaps I can shed a little light on the centershy

fold of the February issue of The Vintage Airplane The two planes pictured in the center of the page

are Top picture Wright Martin (Loening) M-8 Botshytom picture is an Ansaldo SVA-5 or SVA-9

The Loen ing was manufactured by the Wright Marshytin Corp and was built in 1921-1922 The factory deSignation was M-8

The Army Air Service designation was PW-2 PWshy2A and PW-2B Two of the PW-2 model were built in 1921 Gross weight was 2788 Ibs span 39 8 length 24 2 Ten of the PW-2A model were ordered by the Air Service but the order was cancelled after four were built in 1922 Gross weight was 2799 Ibs span 39 9 length 26 1

The PW2B was evaluated in 1922 but was never built Gross weight was to be 2976 Ibs span 34 1 length 23 4

PW-2 and PW-2A were powered by the Wright Martin H of 320 hp which was a Hisso built under license The PW2-B was to be powered by a 350 hp Packard engine

The Ansaldo can be either an SVA-5 or SVA-9 as the front view doesnt show whether it is a two place or single place The SVA-5 was single place while the SVA-9 was two place Both were powered by the Breda SPA-6A engine which was 6 cylinders and rated at 200 hp at 1600 rpm

I understand that there is an SVA-5 in a museum in Connecticut but I am not sure of this

Hope this information will be of some use to you Best regards H M Harkcom Harkcom Aircraft Service Rt 1 Inola Oklahoma

Dear AI In the February issue j R Nielander wrote an in shy

teresting editorial concerning the possibilities in the area of personal certification of antique aircraft by the owner restorer

Without blowing my own horn too loud I have worked with antiquers and others for the last 28 years doing what j R talks about signing off work for non-rated owners A lot of these people are really sharp and most do above average work and should be allowed to cut it on their own somehow

I think the key to this thing is for the FAA to set up a program whereby the interested antiquer could satisfy them that he is qualified to restore and mainshytain his antique This may not be as far away from FAA thinking as one might imagine as there has been talk around for some time at lower levels that the AampE ratings cover too much area for the average mechanic In other words the thinking in some areas of the FAA is that specialized ratings might be needed to have better qualified people in the field where needed If this thinking is still being kicked around in the FAA then the people in the antique field would fit into the thinking already floating around

A specialized rating for antiquers that covered about what was in old manual 18 would not be diffi shycult to qualify for I would favor two ratings along the lines of the AampP If an antiquer did not want to get into the mechanics of engines he could go after an airframe rating only If he wanted to be able to annual his antique then of course he would have to hold both tickets To satisfy the FARs and the inshysurance companies I think the antique rating apshyproach has good merit

I have talked to several antiquers not rated and they all said that they would be happy to work toshyward a limited type rating that would allow them unrestricted labor on their own aircraft They all feel that they should have this opportunity and I concur I have not always been happy to sign off work as an IA due to the fact that there is no such thing as direct supervision even if you are in the same room all the time Also I have seen the FAA just as uneasy mostly because they as a whole are far from qualified to judge most antiques

Well hope this fills a small gap in the ove rall picture If I can be of further help in any way please let me know

Sincerely Bob Younkin 55 Appleby Road Razorback Airport Fayetteville Arkansas 72701 26

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Th e la st pull 10 C olde n Vall e y Electric In c sub station enclosure

these he had built a six foot by twelve foot cabin for shelter mounted on skids for pulling This home away from home is called a Wanigan He would go ahead with the Cat and clear a few hundred yards of timber along the route he chose through the bush and over the ridges come back and hook up his train airplane sled and Wanigan and then unhook again and clear another path and so on The only catch to this process was that this had to be done in the winter months only as the unfrozen tundra would not hold up the Cat in the summer months And what with the break downs problems with starting and operating a diesel engine in fifty degree below zero weather uncertain ice thicknesses to cross over rivers coupled with very few hours of daylight that time of year in Alaska one wonders if any price is worth that A man all alone in this type of operation could get himself killed In fact the Cat did go through the ice once He got it free all by himshyself Another time be broke a foot in a mishap and laid in the Wanigan in that condition for ten days before a refueling plane he had ordered found him Talk about a dedicated antiquer Once again would this story not make an interesting movie And all it would require was a one man cast

I accepted J Ds asking price and had in fact made a deal with a third party here in the Lower 48 to acquire it I might add that was the first and last time I will ever be the in between man on a deal like this it cost me a very good friend and one cannot put a dollar value on that One cannot state he lost money he never had however I was offered thirty thousand dollars more for the airplane than I got for it while it was still in Alaska but then thats water over the dam I really was not in this for money J D and I only wanted to see this A find a good home and people that would rebuild her and fly it again And I understand it is being rebuilt at this time in a very professional manner

Anyway due to an almost inhuman effort the man

Dick Stouffer photo) The Stinson obviou sly required a little more than a wash and paint job

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the cat airpl ane sled and Wani gan aft e r two winters of work arriv ed on an island across th e river fro m Nenana A las ka about sixty mil es be low Fairb ank Thi s w as M ay 1972 And the ice w as b rea king up in th e swift sprin g current I ca n im ag in e J D stand in g ther e on th e b ank thinkin g if I wa~ ju st a w ee k earli er I coul d cross to th e road into town He w alked across th e ice leavin g everythin g o n th e island and advi sed me of the situ ation M eanwhil e som ethin g was takin g pl ace abo ut th at time in th at th e milit ary at Ft W ainwri ght had rece ived so m e fl y in g cranes (cargo heli copters) Th ese anim als co ul d do in a few minutes wh at takes us mo n ths in terms of moving th e tri-moto r A ft er mon ths of ca ll s pro mi ses lett ers etc w e fin all y gave up o n th e U S A rm y (The pres ident of EAA even tri ed to help but to no ava il ) I fin all y fl ew up to J D s pl ace and we worked o ut a meth od to ge t th e airp lane across th e ri ve r

Th ere was a Barge Lin e Co mpany w hi ch wint ered in N enana and w as by now ready ing the ir tu gs and barge s fo r th e summ er season of hauling fu e l and equipment to th eir custo mers vi a th e river hi ghways in Al as ka The re equipm ent is mu ch the sa me as th e tu gs and ba rges w e see o perating o n th e M iss iss ippi Tbeir base w as a sho rt d istance down strea m f ro m the Stin son site on th e island J D spo ke to them and a pri ce was agreed o n to pu sh a ba rge to th e island ti e unto th e sho re and give us a day to buil d a ramp to th e barge and load our ca rgo J D and I hired a loca l fe ll ow w ith a boa t to take us aro un d to th e bac k of th e island and we t hen spe nt five days cutting b ru sh and dragg in g every thin g to th e w ater s edge whil e w aitin g for o ur ship Th e tu g and barge ca m e in sight o n th e fi f th day but th e current was 50 st rong the tu g los t steerage and th e ba rge woun d aro un d th e tu g and fl oa ted down stream Th e crew w e nt af te r it and th e nex t day m ade it a ll th e w ay Th ey pu shed int o shore as c lose as poss ibl e and tossed heavy ca bl es as ho re whi ch we clamped aro und tree stumps w e had cut Th e crew pulled the barge with th e pow er win ches Th ey left with th e tu g aft e r th e Capt ain re min ded us he d id not w ant th e dec k o f th e barge to rn up by th e ca t W e w ere to pl ank th e tr ac ks I forgo t ho w m any million s o f doll a rs h e sa id th e ba rge co st And dont smo ke on it because th e even foo t d eep ho ld is full o f fu el fumes

W e go t ri ght to wo rk J D pu shed ton s o f dirt and trees into the ri ve r between th e sho re and th e barge Half o f it washed aw ay but fin all y enough logs and trees w ere cri ss -crossed and thi s base began to hold th e mud and dirt and soon w e had a ramp

(whi c h continued to w as h awa y) W e imm ediate ly began to pull everythin g o n board In a co upl e o f hours w e w ere all loaded ju st as our ramp vani shed What a good fee ling w e had Thi s w as 1972 M r Berry start ed thi s pro jec t a hun d red mil es away bac k i n 1961 Th e tu g captain sent a sm all boa t for us as w e w ere no t to sleep o n the ba rge

The nex t day the tu g brou ght o ur p reciou s ca rgo down strea m to th e r iv er dock of th e Uni o n O il Company M r Co ghill own er of thi s Co mpany was kin d eno ugh to le t us co mpl etely tear up hi s ya rd w ith th e ca t in th e unl oa din g process J D straightened th e ya rd o ut later w ith th e doze r b lade We pull ed everythin g to a dirt side street out of everyon es w ay and wondered where w e could store the airplan e

We d iscove red an aba ndoned e lec t r ic company powe r sub stati o n at th e edge o f town It had a cyc lo ne fence aro und it with a ga te and loc k W e found th e own e r to be Gold en Vall ey Electri c Assoc iation Inc whose offi ce was in Fairbanks W e w ent there saw Mr Boyd Ro bert s as ked and w ere given permi ss io n to use th e Nenana Station for a month signed a hol d harmless agreement and return ed to Nenan a Th en w e reali zed w e had to cross two set s of railroad trac ks with th e ca t and the airpl ane You ju st don t run a c rawler pulling an eight thou sa nd pound load on rou gh log kids across anoth er mans railro ad tracks Afshy

ter much negotiating with the local railroad depot personnel we got the okay to cross th e tracks if w e first built a bridge of planks to run on This we did and pull ed the tri-m o tor up to the pow er station ga te o nly to fi nd the ga te was too small to all ow th e airshypl ane to pass thro ugh W e got so me shove ls d ug down all aro und o ne ga te pos t until w e hit th e huge chunk of con cre te th e po st was ce mented int o Th is w e lifted o ut with th e dozer b lade W e then pull ed the airpl ane in side th e fence repl anted th e ce ment and pos t closed the ga te and locked i t I th en so ught an o ld gentlem en that li ved ac ross th e stree t and gave him some do ll ars in re turn fo r hi s sh OO ing away any peopl e he may obse rve climbing th e fence with an int eres t in o ld airpl anes

Th e nex t day w as spe nt load in g lt1 11 o f J 0 equipmen t o n a ra ilroad fl at-car fo r shi pmen t to Fairshyba nks W e later drove to Fairbanks in J Ds tru ck and too k a mu ch needed res t W e vi sit ed o th e r spots where I observed a compl ete Norse man an d a Gull Win g Stin son rotting o ut side in the element s and suffering hard knocks fr o m snow plows J D also took me to the mu seum at th e U niversit y o f Alas ka where I could have spent a co upl e days Aft er that we too k the airlin e down to An cho rage and vi sited Mr Reddin the curato r o f the Air Transportation Mu se um who gave us a sw ell tour of thi s institution

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(Dick Souffer phoo)

itting tab A into slot B is no easy task in a rebuild of his size

(Dick 5rouffer ph 00)

The monumental task is nearing comp letion and may be flying when you read this

This musellm and its contents has since burned to the ground

I then said goodbye to J D and spent the next six and a half hours inhaling Vodka martinis on a non stop jet to Chicago

The tri-motor was picked up by semi truck along with a new set of wings Mr Berry had aquired that went with the deal The airplane is being rebuilt in Crvsta Lak~ Wisconsin and should flv this summer Perh rt ps some day J D and I may watch it fly at sClIe antique meet

F-or the record Stinson NC15165 was manufactured under ATC 556 model A serial No 9125 Engines were Lycoming (3) model R-680-5 260 hp each engines serials were Rt 2-1292 Lt 2-1400 ten 2-1290 Number of crew and passengers 9 PCLM

Delivered to original owner February 28 1936 American Airlines Inc 4848 West 63 Street Chicago Illinois

Ship damaged at Washington D C on June 8 1936 when a drunk drove a car into the tail while th e ship was parked near a hanger at the Washington ai rport

On November 2 1939 the total time on thi s aircraft was given as 223403 hours

Sold to Lavery Airways William L Lavery Fairshybanks Alaska April 27 1940

Sold to Raymond I Peterson DBA Ray Peterson Flying Service Anchorage Alaska September 14 1942

Sold to Ray Peterson Flying Service Raymond I Peterson Marie Antoinette Peterson Glen I Dillard Anchorage Alaska April 26 1944

Crashed November 1947 No details given On February 19 1948 so ld to Northern Conshy

so lidated Airlines Inc Box 1439 Anchorage Alaska Remarks Delivered to American Airlines M arch 2 1936

NC Licenses iss ued to expire 3-1-37 3-1-38 3-15-39 and 11-15-40 On 11-14-40 license NC-15165 approved for one year Aircraft disapproved for license on 10-30-42 due to bad original fabric Ship approved for license on 5-15-43 for one year

The next chapter is for Mr J D Berry to write should he wish to do so

For five years now I have sought and acquired what I believe is a complete listing of every serial number of the Stinson A models produced I followed one rumor and found some bones of an A model I believe there are two more in existence in what condition I do not know however I am going to find out Who knows

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WORLD WAR I ERA REPLICA PLANS

Compiled by Leonard Opdycke

15 Crescent Rd Poughkeepsie NY 12601

Reprinted WWI Aeroplanes

FOR YOUR INFORMATION (Abb reviations used below H = H awker-S iddel ey Avishyation Ltd Richmond Road Kingston-upon-Thames KT2 5QS UK (Attn j Crampton Deputy Sales Mgr L50 per set of drawings for anyone aircraft)

W = Wright-Patterson AFB OH 45433 (Attn Verna M Frazier Freedom of Information Manager Adminishyst rati on Office Headquarters Aeronautical Systems Div) (AFSC) Antoinette

4 sheets of the German Albatross-b uilt version drawn by Gabriel-Sales Desk National Museum of Science and Technology 1867 St Laurent Boulevard Ottawa Ontario K1A OM8 Canada

Bellanca 1912 shyComplete set of drawings $4000 - Mike Murphy 4923 West 99 Oak Lawn Illinois 60453

Berchman B-2 Scout (1918) W (Can 482)

Bleriot XI Complete set of drawings instructions $1500 -Mel Miller 2030 Geary Albany Oregon 97321

Complete set in BUILDING AN AEROPLANE by C B Hayward 1912 rep rinted by Kings Box 17646 Nashville Tennessee 37217 ($350)

Bristol F2B A few miscellan eous drawings not enough to build from many structura l photos parts and rigging manuals operating manual - LEO WWI AEROPLANES

Bristol Scout A A xerox copy of the 500 - ser ies of drawings from Frank Barnwells own notebook (not for sale maybe recopy) - LEO WWI AEROPLANES

Bristol Scout D Many 8 x 10 sheets cop ies from orig in al Bristol factory drawings enough to build from (not for sa le maybe recopy) - LEO WWI AEROPLANES

Curtiss JN4 series jN4(Can) 35mm microfilm roll - Ken Hyde RD 1 Warrenton VA 22186

jN4D Ken Hyde (above) from Canadian Aeroplane Company Ltd Can 66 - W Air Force Museum Wright Patterson AFB Dayton OH (not same as W above) 20 sheets 17 x 22 ga and structure from factory drawings - Charles F Schultz 910 Broadfields Drive Louisville KY 40207 23 draWings incomplete but good coverage shyGordon E Codding 4572 W 147 Street Lawnshydale California Rep rinted operating m anual $3 00 - Aviation Publi cat ion s 2036 Ludin gton Avenue Milwaukee Wisconsin

jH4 From Curtiss-Wright Aeroplane and Motor Corp Can 495 - W

Curtiss 0-1 XO-1 0-2 W (Can 301)

Curtiss Pusher 34 x 48 plate showin g co nst ruction of 1910 Curtiss A-frame $1000 Herbert L Kelley 56424 Hand ley Road Yucca Valley CA 92284

Set of drawings developed from orig inal Curtiss prints $2500 Charles F Schu ltz (above)

Co mplete set fOf construction - Mel Miller (above)

Co mplete set in BUILDING AN AEROPLANE Kings (above) - but note 468 for Charles Willards cautionary note o n using these plans

Chanute Hang Glider jack Lambie 115B Merrimac Drive Anaheim California 92807

DeHaviliand 4 Dayton-Wright Aeroplane Corp (DH4 DH4B) shyW (Can 195)

Miscellaneous drawings from AF Museum (above) Fisher Body (DH4) - W (Can 191)

DeHaviliand 99A Few drawings including float models - Colin A Owers Box 241 Quirindi NSW 2343 Australia

Fokker DVII BLUE MAX DVII drawings - Harold Best-Devershyeux 11 Stonehills House Welwyn Garden City Herts UK

11 plates 34 x 48 for 1601180 Mercedes versions $11000 Herbert L Kelley (above)

AF Museum (above) 11 plates 34 x 54 $12100 with raw materials and parts to be available later - Stolp Starduster Corporat ion 4301 Twining Riverside Calif

Fokker DVIII Full set from Platz original sketches for Warner powered reproduction s E D Swearingen 40 Monee Road Park Forest Illinois

AF Museum (above) Dan-San Abbott (in process of entry for Roland DVI below)

Fokker Drl Brochure $200 and full set of working drawings for Warner reproductions Walter W Redfern Route 1 Athol Idaho 83801

10 sheets done towards a complete set each $400 plus spar and rib sets fiber-glass cowls - Ron Sands RD 1 Mertztown PA 19539

Fokker EI 1 plate 22 x 30 1 to 1 for full sca le detail f ly in g model $1000 Herbert L Kelley (above)

Fokker EIII 25 9 x 7 photos of structure of Kensington Science Museum EIII $2500 plus $100 po stage - Ed Brannon 1405 Marcella NE Albuquerque NM 87112

Fokker VI 8 plates 17 x 22 1110 sca le structure developed from photos and historical data (of 44) $2500shyHerbert L Kelley (above)

1 plate 34 x 54 1110 scale for 26 span model $1000 - Herbert L Kelley (above)

Macchi-Hanriot HD1 Drawings $12000 - Chris j Warrilow 141 Chairshyborough Road Hi gh Wycombe Bucks U K

Nieuport 17 Rozendaal drawings - Fred Kom Losy 725 Robin Way North Palm Beach Florid a 33408

Air Force Museum (above) 3 sheets $225 - National Museum of Science and Technology (above)

Nieuport 24 Walt Redford (above)

Nieuport 27 Fred Kom Losy (above) Gordon E Codding (above)

Nieuport 28C1 Air Force Museum (above)

Pfalz Dill Darnell Sitton 1925 N Vermont Avenue 7 Los Angeles CA 90027

Pfalz DXII Set of 30 fine 5 x 7 photos of the EAA Museums DXI I under reconstruction $2000 (a ircraft on permanent loan from National Air and Space Museum) Ben Owen EAA Museum Box 229 Hales Corners WI 53130 ($1500 for EAA members)

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RAF Se5A 32 photos as above $2000 ($1500 to EAA memshybers) - Ben Owen EAA Air Museum (above)

Drawings for 85 scale all-wood reproduction - Replica Plans 953 Kirkmond Crescent Richshymond BC CANADA

Air Force Museum (above) Gordon E Codding (above) Complete set from which RAF Museum ship was rebuilt - Public Records Office Chancery Lane London UK (See Note below also)

Roland DVlab 5 sheets 34 x 44 fully detailed $5000 plus postage $350 (these fine drawings reviewed this issue p2) - Dan-San Abbott 25886 Gettysburg Avenue Hayward CA 94545

Pomilio W Can 66

Sopwith Bl Baby Bulldog Buffalo Camel Condor Cuckoo Dolphin Dove Dragon Gnu Gun Bus Hippo Pup Rainbow Ram Rhino Salamander Snail Snapper Snipe 112 Strutter Swallow Tabloid Triplane

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Sopwith Camel Air Force Museum (above) Gordon E Codding (above) Clayton amp Shuttleworth drawings of F1 Some 2F1 200 drawings for $144 Chris J Warrilow (above)

Sopwith Pup GordonE Codding (above) Air Force Museum (above) 72 drawings 18 x 24 $162 00 - Smithsonian Institution Washington DC

Sopwith Triplane (110 Clerget) Clayton amp Shuttleworth drawings about 100 for $7200 Chris Warrilow (above)

S Wieser Dir Plantetarium Clagary Parks Departshyment Box 2100 Calgary Alberta Canada

Sopwith Miscellaneous Types (SS SSD2 SPGN 150 hp Smith D3 S STS STD D2 DS frS 225 Sunbeam frS 220 hp Seaplane 2FR2 50 Gnome Biplane)

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Sopwith-Kauper Gun Gear H

Spad 7 Air Museum (above) Gordon E Codding (above) Jack Hickey 1659 Willis S St Paul Minn 55705shy20 sheets for $7500

Spad 13 Gordon E Codding (above)

Sperry Messenger W (Can 289)

Standard 11 Air Force Museum (above)

Thomas-Morse S4C Air Force Museum (above) Gordon E Codding (above)

Wright Gliders 4 plates 1899 Kite 17 x 22 1900-01-02 Gliders 110 sca le 34 x 48 total $3500 - Herbert L Kelley (above)

Wright Flyer 1903 Master drawings made for construction of Kitty Hawk Memorial reproduction 21 sheets for $2200 (make check payable to Cooper-Trent) - Louis S Casey Cu rator Aircraft amp Aeronautics National Air amp Space Museum Washington DC 20560)

Notes Complete drawings for display or building the Spandau LMGO-8-15 mig 3 x 6Vz - Ray Hollings 338054 Street San Diego CA 92105

RAE TECH MEMO 4 This catalog is subtitled

The EAA Aviation Museum is now the proud owner

Catalogue of Original Tracings of Aircraft and Engines Designed and Built by the RAE 1911-1918 assembled by Wing Commander NHF Unwin from Public Records Office Chancery L ne London UK Drawings are listed by aircraft type subject of drawing and drawing number any can be bought separately The SE5A set is complete (of RAF SE5A above) Types for which at least some drawings are available

Bristol Scout Bristol F2B Cierva Autogyro DH1-69-10 Hamble Baby Handley-Page 0400

V-1500 Short 225 320 Sopwith 1 Pup Triplane

Camel Snipe Dolphin

RAF BE1-5 7-1012 RAF CE1 RAF FE1-9 12 RAF NE1 RAF HAM I RAF Hydro-Aeroplane 17 RAF HRE 2 RAF RE1 3 5-9 RAF BS1 RAF SE1 2 4 4a 5 5a RAF TE1

EAAs Aviation Museum has built a replica of its own the Ryan NX-211 Spirit of SI Louis its also sponsored construction of this replica Wright Flyer at the Blackshyhawk Technical Institute in janesville Wisconsin

of this replica Fokker DR-I Triplane which was built and shydonated by Robert H Fergus of Columbus Ohio The white paint scheme on this replica was used by Lt Hans Weiss who flew with von Richtoffen

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planes fighters up through transportw Brad Thomas JrNotice of Annual Business Meeting C-54sPilot Mountain North Carolina Today he holds a commercial licenseand Manufacturer with single and multi-engine land and Born in High Point North CarolinaElection of Officers and Directors instrument ratings and remains actively

Brad was educated at McCallie School flying with his Gyrocopter and VW powshyNotice is hereby given that an annual business Chattanooga Tennessee MIT Camshy ered Scamp both built by him a Moonshy

meeting of the members of the EAA AntiqueClassic bridge Massachusetts and High Point ey for travel and a D-17R Staggerwing Division will be held on Saturday August 5 1978 at College His flying career began at the He is currently Secretary of the Antique

age of 16 when he soloed and obtained1030 AM (Central Daylight Time) at the 26th Anshy Classic Division of EAA Oshkosh Conshynual Convention of the Experimental Aircraft Associashy his private license in 1938 The advent vention Classic Awards Chairman and tion Inc Wittman Field Oshkosh Wisconsin of World War II encouraged his enlistshy Chief Judge Secretary and Treasurer

Notice is hereby further given that the annual ment in the Army Air Corps as a pilot of EAA Chapter 8 Greensboro N C election of officers and directors of the EAA Antique He graduated from British Flying Trainshy Vice-President of EAA Antique ChapshyClassic Division will be conducted by ballot disshy ing School No5 Clewiston Florida with ter 3 and a member of their executive tributed to the members along with this June issue of both Air Corps and RAF wings was transshy committee Br-ad and his wife Ferne The Vintage Airplane Said ballot must be returned ferred to the 7th Ferry Group Air Transshy have five children of which one is an properly marked to the Ballot Tally Committee EAA port Command Great Falls Montana active oilot AntiqueClassic Division Box 229 Hales Corners where he ferried most types of Air Corps Wisconsin 53130 and received no later than August 3 1978

Ronald Fritz Chairman Nominating Committee

W Brad Thomas Jr Secretary the acquisition of his private pilot li shyEAA AntiqueClassic Division cense he immediately bought and reshy

stored his first airplane a 1946 Cessna AI Kelch 140 N72323 which had been used as Mequon Wisconsin a trainer at South Dayton Airport In

Manufacturer1953 he rebuilt and restored 1946 Cessna AI -started his own company in 1950 140 N73018 and flew it during the reshy

mainder of 1953 and 1954 During this The Kelch Corp which is now a conshysame period J R bought an extensively glomerate of 5 small manufacturing comshydamaged 1949 Cessna 170A N9730A and panies in the industrial plastic field completely rebuilt and restored it inshy AI s interest in airplanes goes back cluding splicing the parts of two fuseshy to his childhood in the 1920s when he

would sit on his fathers lap and fly iniages together to make one With the completion of the Cessna his uncles Jenny whenever the Jenny

170A in early 1955 he flew to Florida came to town barnstorming where he was hired as an AampP by the He is a lifetime member of EAA and

local Cessna distributor Sunny South AAA He was president of the WisconshyAircraft Service Later that same year sin Chapter of AAA for two terms and he joined Pan American World Airways a director of AntiqueClassic Division as a co-pilot flying Convair 240s Since of EAA for two terms He served as edishythen he has flown Douglas DC-4 6 7C tor of The Vintage Airplane magazine from

January 1976 until February 1978 8 Boeing 707 and 720 aircraft Besides J R Nielander Jr He currently owns and flies a 1939 his ATR and mechanic tickets he also Fort Lauderdale FL Piper J3 Cub which he completely re-Pan Am Pilot J R was elected vice-president of the

holds a flight navigator license stored in 1968 and a 1939 Franklin Sport

By the time he learned to fly at Lakeshy AntiqueClassic Division at its organizashy biplane which he restored in 1969 A wood Airpark Mount Healthy Ohio tional meeting on November 6 1971 1931 Travel Air 12Q will be flying this

summer and two American Eaglets and in 1951 J R had already completed He held that office until he was elected five years of university study as well president by the Board of Directors at an E2 Cub are his current restoration as one year of graduate school With their meeting on February 5 1976 projects

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Morton W Lester Martinsville Virginia Builder-Developer and Real Estate Investor

Morton is President of The Lester Corshyporation and Vice-President of Motor Imports Inc He is Executive Vice-Presishydent of the Virginia Aeronautical Hisshytorical Society and a board member of several other civic governmental busishyness and humanitarian organizations Morton was soloed by his father at the age of 10 in a Piper Cub He currently owns several prototype antiques such as the Ryan SCW Davis Low Wing Aeronca and Johnson Rocket His curshyrent ship is a civilian Howard DGA-15P He also owns a rare Travel Air 6000B which is currently undergoing restorashytion under the careful expertise of his cousin Pete Covington Morton is a Trustee of the EAA Air Museum Foundashytion and a past chairman of the Classic Judging Team of Oshkosh He is past president and current member of the executive committee of EAA Chapter 395 (NC Sc amp Va Antique Airplane Foundation) Morton and his wife Marshygaret have three children

M C Kelly Viets Stilwell Kansas Consulting Engineer Self-Employed

Kelly entered the consulting engineer field in 1938 and spent World War II designing airports and base facilities for the U S government He started his own firm Viets Consulting Engishyneers in 1954 He is a registered proshyfessional engineer and holds membershyship in numerous professional societies Kelly spent a lot of his younger days around Kansas City Municipal and Fairshyfax airports seeing Benny Howards Ike make its first flights the Travel Air Mystery Ship on the way to Cleveshyland all the early airliners etc He startshyed flight instruction in 1938 in a 55 hp Porterfield and finally got his ticket on the GI Bill in 1946 Kelly and his wife Edna own an Ercoupe and the two of them started and manage the Internashytional Ercoupe Association Their monthshyly newsletter goes out to over 550 Ershycoupe enthusiasts around the world Kelly also owns and is restoring the 14shy12 Bellanca that was used as the protoshytype for the 14-13 series He is a Director of EAAs Antique-Classic Division Kelly and Edna have 3 children

Art Morgan Milwaukee Wisconsin Oster Service Division

Art Morgan began flying in 1961 and received his private license in 1962 In 1965 he went on to get his commercial rating

He has been a member of EAA since 1962 and was parking airplanes at Rockshyford Illinois

Art was one of the first to start buildshying a KR-1 and although he did not complete his project he was instrumenshytal in the completion of two of the little birds

In 1974 he and his wife Kate purchased a 1939 Luscombe 8-C which he promptly rebuilt After two years of flying the Lusshycombe Art and several friends organshyized the American Luscombe Club

Art has served the EAA as a museum volunteer for several years as Classic parking chairman at Oshkosh and also as Antique-Classic parking chairman

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I Pioneer Northwest pilot Eclith Fol tz lVel 1 neltive of Dallas maiden name - 1agali She learned to I) in Portlaml Oregon Fel)(uar) of l)l8

l IJdrntormecl a long-wing Edglerock (OX-5) middotkCfuirec License 5nOO and lVas th e fifth US wOlllan to ohtain the Transport rlIing

J Barnstorming the Northwest - Pilot Greenwood in a Ryan Brougham and Edith in the OX-5 Eaglerock

4 Edith placed second in the light-plane division of the first Nashytional Womens Air Derby 1929 Santa Monica to Cleveland flying an Alexander Eaglerock Bullet (Kinner engine) Charter member of the 99s

5 May 1930 - Edith christening The Romer new five-passenger airplane manufactured by the National Aircraft Corp Beavershyton Oregon

Vintag The Flying life

Compile (Special thanks to Paulin sharing Edith Sterns scr

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1 I Edith Stearns in structed Naval and Kingsv ille TX after WWII with Pauline Glasson Decease

Album m es of Edith Foltz Stearns ~ I enn Bu ff ington on of Co rp us Chr isti Texas fo r ( w ith us - also to I B Decker the photos)

ts in ins trum ent flying at Corpus Christi eel the 52 and 53 Powder Puff Derbies 956 ending a brillidnt flying career

Edith served as th e first Northwest Section Governor of the 99s - and she also w as Oregon Governor of the National Aeronautics Assn in the ea rl y ]Os She flew a Kinner Bird in the 3 7 and 32 derbies both from Sa nta Monica to Cleveland (4th in 3 7 and 2nd in 32 in th e women s division)

7 Edith and her son Richard Foltz age 6 in 793 7 a t Portland Oregon

8 7932 a t Cleveland Na tiona l Air Races (L to R) Vio la Gentry G ladys ODonn ell Florence Klingensmith Frank Phillips Edith Foltz Stearns and Frances Marsalis taken with Phillips Woolshyaroc Trophy Edith flew th e Bird to 2nd place in the Amelia Earhart Trophy Race (pylons) 1932 Klingesmith was first in a Monoco upe

9 Sk irts ~a flyin Edith Foltz Stea rns models one or her trade-marked FoIZLIp flying lOgs which eas il y converted to st reet wear - 7 932

I O Edith managed a new feeder airl in e a t Portshyland dnd taught prim ary CPT at Salem prior to WWII - se rved in En g land as a Firs t Officer in the Air Tran sport Aux iliary here in uniform

(Fred Chew photo)

Bills Cessna 140 slips through a quick left turn in a test of-rhe new splas h rails

A Harbor for Classics By David Gustafson Editor

Some fo lks would argue that Bali Hi is a mythical Island out in the South Pacific where the best in life is an everyday affair There are a few peoplehowshyever who would be inclined to suggest that the protoshytype model for Bali Hi can be found on the Southshyeast corner of Stafford Pond in Westport Masshysachusetts Thats where Bill Walsh lives What makes it special Well hes got several acres of land in the secluded inlet of a clear lake He doesn t have palm trees though his Norwegian pines give the same effect on a warm and breezy summer night To improve the natural scene Bill put in a dock laid down some railroad track for a movable ramp that can be winched right into the hangar he erected 200

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feet from the water Naturally there has to be someshything to place in the hangar so Bills lined the walls with tools and bending brakes The space thats left is reserved for his Cessna 140 Floatplane and the Aeronca Sedan hes rebuilding so he can be a twoshyfloatplane family

The Cessna 140 was built in 1948 and sent directly from Wichita to Sea Wings of Connecticut for conshyversion to floats It was then sold with floats and wheels With the stock Continental 85 horsepower engine the plane was marginal as a hot day aquatic performer Getting off the surf with two husky adults when its over 75 degrees out is a groaning process Some of the problem relates to the high speed airshy

foil that works nicely in cruise but does little to generate the kind of take-off lift you get in someshything like a Cub or Champ Even as a ground plane the Cessna requires a long take-off roll

Once airborne however the 140 levels off to a respectable 90 mph with a corkscrew that measures a wide 76 x 38 Bill s hoping to swap the C-85 someday for an 0-200 so he can take up so me of his fat friends in the mint julip season

As fa r as skidding around the pond Bill reports theres very little difference between the 140 and comshyparably sized float planes Of course the take-off runs lon ge r but once airborne (40-45 mph ) it climb s well and flies with much greater stability than a

land model The floats give it a big plane feeling says Bill

Stalls with a floating 140 are similar to the land configuration and intentional spins are strictly verbotten

When Bill bought the plane in 1963 it was on the floats but he couldnt get it off the water The floats leaked Experimentation revealed that the keel opened up on a take-off run so they were replaced Later he added spray rails which eliminated the center wake and brought the plane up onto the step quicker

In the wintertime the floats are replaced with skis and Bill goes out to race the ice boats Between

he floats and the skis the wheels havent been on the 140 for several years now When he wants to bounce around a paved runway he heads off to Fall River Airport haul s out a 170-B (of which he owns 1115th) and renews his acquaintance with toe brakes and squealing rubber

Like a growing number of people in EAA Bill divides his time between flying one project and tinkershying with another Hes lucky enough to have an Aeronca 15 AC Sedan as that other project He picked it up a couple years ago at a price that would take the wind out of some people Ask anyone who knows Bill or his close friend Fred Chew and theyll tell you that those two guys deserve a special suit that says SUPER-SCROUNGERS across the chest They have uncanny talents at picking up materials for nothing or next to it More than once in recent history theyve plucked chicken feathers out of an old Continental or Lycoming that was retrieved from the dark corner of a barn for around $100 (Actually Bills just finished a two-year term as President of EAA Chapter 51 in Middletown Rhode Island and Freds still the Chapter Designee - they have both done an excellent job)

When the opportunity arose they dickered and diddled and sang the song of a snake charmer until they could come home with a smile and that particular Sedan

Naturally the plane needed a little work The previous owner had argued with a pine tree The tree not only won but took the left wing as a prize The Aeronca was apparently so shocked by the action that it pulled back and stood up on the right wing as if to say I beg your pardon When things got back to level the right tip was mashed

How many times do you suppose guys like Bill and Fred have set out to unbend a wing but wound

(Fred Chew photo)

Off and flying the 140 is a marginal performer on hot days with a full load

(Fred Chew photo)

This Cessna 140 has been a regular feature in Bills back- yard for 15 years

up rebuilding the entire machine You can add their names to the list

One thing Bill quickly points out is that he and Fred are not engaged in a full-scale down-to-theshylast-screw restoration project Nope When it flies again i t will still be clearly recognizable as an Aeronca Sedan but there are some (approved ) changes in store Most obvious is the addition of brackets for float struts A presto-change-o routine with a few bolts will convert the plane from land to sea or vice versa

Conveniently it so happened that the greatest crash damage occurred on the left side Fred happily ripped out the bent tubes bent a few new ones and followed the STC cookbook for installing a left side door that opens upwards to the wing Its an approved mod for a seaplane configuration

(David Gustafson photo) Progress in the rebuild ing effort is evi shydent in this shot o f th e Sedan th e left wing attachment has been repaired the fusel age has been blas ted and primed the new left door frame is complete and a new headlin er s being installed

(Fred Chew photo) after abrupt removshy

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Each of the large metal wings originally contained 20 gallon rubber gas bladders (say that three times) and both leaked after the crash Replacement cost was $700 apiece so the wing panels were torn off and Fred bent up a couple of metal tanks that are larger than the originals Between the tanks and the twisted metal from the crash Fred figures hes disshymantled at least 80 per cent of the wings and replaced 50 per cent of the total materials Included are a number of ribs shaped by hand on wooden formers which were also hand etched from the pieces bound for the junk heap That translates into a lot of aluminum the wing span is 376 with a chord in excess of 5 feet which produces 200 square feet of wing area In the end Fred will be able to reproduce any curved part of the Sedans wing and yes he plans to come up with quotes for others needing help (write Fred Chew 158 Meridian Street Fall River Massach usetts 02720)

With the Clark Y airfoil and a Continental 145 horsepower engine the Sedan leaps off the ground almost as fast as a two-place Cub When you turn it into a Seadan by adding a couple EDO 2000s it breaks surf suction with a simple hop skip and a slurping leap The only drawback is that with the 2000s you cant hop unless there are only two people on board With four people and full tanks the floats become submarines As a result the two resourceful metal benders who plan to build their own floats are giving serious thought to making something bigshyger

(David Gustafson photo)

Detail of the float attachment fitting

Bills Aeronca was built in 1948 and like most classics its alread~ changed hands a few times Dr Paul Nussbaum was the first to drop mud on the carpets in 49 John Ru sh moved it from Missouri to Ohio ten years later After another decade a pair of partners in Pennsylvania flew it for awhile and then left it with another partnership in New York Gerry Broskin and Harris Gordon revamped the panel and went IFR Soon after that it became the answer to a dream for Ron and Diane Rissone in Randolph Massachusetts But then there was this pine tree That brings the odyssey of N1365H to Bill Walsh hangar and private seaplane base

The next time Bills Sedan sees another runway itll obviously be sporting rebuilt wings and new float brackets in addition there ll be a new windshield all new woodwork new ceconite new headliner new used back seats (from a Tri-Pacer yet) a new panel (still IFR) and discussion has already started about a total engine overhaul

Theres one other new item in the works for the Sedan When its checked out on its wheels again there ll be a streamlined gas tank nestled in the gear bay You see Bill and Fred have promised themselves this extended tour of South America once they finish

Then the Sedan will bob in the harbor beside the Cessna and Bill can wrestle with the question which one do I fly today

(David Gustafson photo)

Fred Chew holds up the new tip hes built for the right wing

(David Gustafson photo)

Bill Walsh displys the seaplane door thats being installed on the left side of th e Sedan

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Restoration Tips a photo essay provided by

Fred Chew 158 Meridian St

Fall River Mass 02720

(Note Freds kept an exce llent photo record of the process of rebuilding the wings for Bill Walshs Aeronca Sedan It gives a good idea of how to do it and how much works involved)

No2 - Teardown reveals the damage No4 - Line up new to old

No 1 - Last step before rebuilding

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Aeronca Sedan spar repair 7976 (Right wing) No5 - Extrusion repair

No8 - Removing old section No 10 - Repair of extrusion spar No6 - Horizontal-line up

No7 - New piece made ready for hole flare No9 - Ready for spar extrusion repair No 17 - New piece in place for riveting

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No 12 - Nose rib in place No 15 - Form to fit inside of old damaged spar tip rib NO 78 - Hand form mg

No 73 - C1eco nose rib to spa r No 16 - 032 alclad ready to be clamped in form No 79 - Flanging spar tip

No 74 - Ready to repair rear spar No 77 - Form ready for hand bending jig for lightening holes No 20 - More of same 22

No 27 - Trim off excess flange No 24 - Test fit to spar No 27 - 032 alclad 2024 TJ

No 22 - Trim square to form No 25 - Fly cutting lightening holes No 28 - Spar tip ready for installation

No 23 - Remove from form No 26 - Flanging No 29 - Clecos test line up 23

The Babv Cessna

It was born in Wichita Kansas at the Cessna fac-shytory in 1929 Because of the stock market slump the Airplane manufacturing business fell off drasshytically To try and keep the plant in operation Eldon Cessna decided to design and build a light airplane that could be sold at a low price As a result the EC-1 was developed It was powered with a 25 hp Cleone engine

At the time I was enrolled at the Braley School of Flying which was located directly across the road to the east of the Cessna field I spent much of my spare time at the field watching the men work on and fly the Baby Cessna It was a fascinating little airplane

Early last year I was looking for a suitable airshyplane to model for a C02 Powered model airplane contest I remembered the Baby Cessna and thought it would be just what I wanted

In doing research for drawings and photos I found that photos of both the EC-1 and the EC-2 were available but no drawings I had a photo of the EC-1 that I had taken with my Brownie box camera The EC-2 looked cleaner with its design refinements and the Aeronca E-107 engine

I met Eldon Cessna at-an OX5 get-to-gether at the Santa Paula Airport and we discussed the EC-2 at length He informed me that plans had never been published The EC-2 (cn 253 N405W) was the last Baby Cessna built

From the photos and from memory of being around the Baby Cessna these plans for a model were drawn Imagine what a delightful fun airplane it would be for a homebuilt replica project today These specifications appeared in the 1930 issue of Air Age magazine

Baby Cessna EC-2 (cn253 N405W) 30 hp Aeronca E-707A

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Empty 470 Ibs Gross 925 Ibs

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High speed 86 mph Cruising speed 70 mph Stalling speed 38 mph Climb first minute 740 ft Ceiling (service) 15000 ft Cruising range 200 miles

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1 I~rlII~llS Dear Sir

I am trying to get information on an aircraft that was built during the 20s called the Golden Eagle Chief It was a parasol wing powered by a radial engine type unshyknown Only about seven were built If any of your Antique classic division members know anything about this aircraft I would like to get in touch with them

I would like to take this opportunity to express what an outstanding organization I think the EAA is Ive only been a member for three years and only regret the years before I joined SPORT AVIATION is one of the best publications that I have ever read I have been to Oshkosh twice and to quite a few local fly-ins including Sun N Fun and have never seen anything more organized or better run I am looking forward to Oshkosh 78 and to continued membership in a fine organization

Sincerely james E Spradley (EAA 108947) PO Box 146 Rutledge Alabama 36071

Dear Mr Nielander Your editorial in the February issue of The Vinshy

tage Airplane is the best expression of the question of who is really qualified to maintain antique and classic aircraft (this applies equally well to some curshyrent aircraft such as the Bellanca Viking etc)

I submit the following recommendation as a way to offset some of the difficulties expressed in your excellent editorial to wit

The FAA should grant an A and E (or P) mechanics license to an individual who meets the following qualifications

(1) Passes three written examinations now required for the rating

(2) Passes the practical examination currently reshyquired

(3) Can show that he has actually done the major portion of the work in the restoration of an antique or classic airplane

You will note that the difference between these requirements and the current FAR part 65 requireshyments is the modification of sec 6577 which relates to on-the-job or schooling experience

From my own experience in restoring three airshyplanes (Luscombe Stinson Reliant Beechcraft B17L) I know that the amount of honest-to-God airplane and engine work in the usual restoration project is in exshycess of the stuff that the students in the approved

mechanic schools get Moreover during the 30 months practical experience referred to in FAR 6577 a lot of that time is spent just removing cowlings cleanshying sparkplugs changing tires sweeping floors pumpshying gas and plowing snow I guess what Im trying to do is build a case which shows that the antique classic restorer or homebuilder knows just as much about airplanes in general as does the individual who qualifies under the current provisions of FAR sec 6577

Very truly yours Thomas R Rench 1601 Circlewood Drive Racine Wisconsin 53402

Dear AI Perhaps I can shed a little light on the centershy

fold of the February issue of The Vintage Airplane The two planes pictured in the center of the page

are Top picture Wright Martin (Loening) M-8 Botshytom picture is an Ansaldo SVA-5 or SVA-9

The Loen ing was manufactured by the Wright Marshytin Corp and was built in 1921-1922 The factory deSignation was M-8

The Army Air Service designation was PW-2 PWshy2A and PW-2B Two of the PW-2 model were built in 1921 Gross weight was 2788 Ibs span 39 8 length 24 2 Ten of the PW-2A model were ordered by the Air Service but the order was cancelled after four were built in 1922 Gross weight was 2799 Ibs span 39 9 length 26 1

The PW2B was evaluated in 1922 but was never built Gross weight was to be 2976 Ibs span 34 1 length 23 4

PW-2 and PW-2A were powered by the Wright Martin H of 320 hp which was a Hisso built under license The PW2-B was to be powered by a 350 hp Packard engine

The Ansaldo can be either an SVA-5 or SVA-9 as the front view doesnt show whether it is a two place or single place The SVA-5 was single place while the SVA-9 was two place Both were powered by the Breda SPA-6A engine which was 6 cylinders and rated at 200 hp at 1600 rpm

I understand that there is an SVA-5 in a museum in Connecticut but I am not sure of this

Hope this information will be of some use to you Best regards H M Harkcom Harkcom Aircraft Service Rt 1 Inola Oklahoma

Dear AI In the February issue j R Nielander wrote an in shy

teresting editorial concerning the possibilities in the area of personal certification of antique aircraft by the owner restorer

Without blowing my own horn too loud I have worked with antiquers and others for the last 28 years doing what j R talks about signing off work for non-rated owners A lot of these people are really sharp and most do above average work and should be allowed to cut it on their own somehow

I think the key to this thing is for the FAA to set up a program whereby the interested antiquer could satisfy them that he is qualified to restore and mainshytain his antique This may not be as far away from FAA thinking as one might imagine as there has been talk around for some time at lower levels that the AampE ratings cover too much area for the average mechanic In other words the thinking in some areas of the FAA is that specialized ratings might be needed to have better qualified people in the field where needed If this thinking is still being kicked around in the FAA then the people in the antique field would fit into the thinking already floating around

A specialized rating for antiquers that covered about what was in old manual 18 would not be diffi shycult to qualify for I would favor two ratings along the lines of the AampP If an antiquer did not want to get into the mechanics of engines he could go after an airframe rating only If he wanted to be able to annual his antique then of course he would have to hold both tickets To satisfy the FARs and the inshysurance companies I think the antique rating apshyproach has good merit

I have talked to several antiquers not rated and they all said that they would be happy to work toshyward a limited type rating that would allow them unrestricted labor on their own aircraft They all feel that they should have this opportunity and I concur I have not always been happy to sign off work as an IA due to the fact that there is no such thing as direct supervision even if you are in the same room all the time Also I have seen the FAA just as uneasy mostly because they as a whole are far from qualified to judge most antiques

Well hope this fills a small gap in the ove rall picture If I can be of further help in any way please let me know

Sincerely Bob Younkin 55 Appleby Road Razorback Airport Fayetteville Arkansas 72701 26

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the cat airpl ane sled and Wani gan aft e r two winters of work arriv ed on an island across th e river fro m Nenana A las ka about sixty mil es be low Fairb ank Thi s w as M ay 1972 And the ice w as b rea king up in th e swift sprin g current I ca n im ag in e J D stand in g ther e on th e b ank thinkin g if I wa~ ju st a w ee k earli er I coul d cross to th e road into town He w alked across th e ice leavin g everythin g o n th e island and advi sed me of the situ ation M eanwhil e som ethin g was takin g pl ace abo ut th at time in th at th e milit ary at Ft W ainwri ght had rece ived so m e fl y in g cranes (cargo heli copters) Th ese anim als co ul d do in a few minutes wh at takes us mo n ths in terms of moving th e tri-moto r A ft er mon ths of ca ll s pro mi ses lett ers etc w e fin all y gave up o n th e U S A rm y (The pres ident of EAA even tri ed to help but to no ava il ) I fin all y fl ew up to J D s pl ace and we worked o ut a meth od to ge t th e airp lane across th e ri ve r

Th ere was a Barge Lin e Co mpany w hi ch wint ered in N enana and w as by now ready ing the ir tu gs and barge s fo r th e summ er season of hauling fu e l and equipment to th eir custo mers vi a th e river hi ghways in Al as ka The re equipm ent is mu ch the sa me as th e tu gs and ba rges w e see o perating o n th e M iss iss ippi Tbeir base w as a sho rt d istance down strea m f ro m the Stin son site on th e island J D spo ke to them and a pri ce was agreed o n to pu sh a ba rge to th e island ti e unto th e sho re and give us a day to buil d a ramp to th e barge and load our ca rgo J D and I hired a loca l fe ll ow w ith a boa t to take us aro un d to th e bac k of th e island and we t hen spe nt five days cutting b ru sh and dragg in g every thin g to th e w ater s edge whil e w aitin g for o ur ship Th e tu g and barge ca m e in sight o n th e fi f th day but th e current was 50 st rong the tu g los t steerage and th e ba rge woun d aro un d th e tu g and fl oa ted down stream Th e crew w e nt af te r it and th e nex t day m ade it a ll th e w ay Th ey pu shed int o shore as c lose as poss ibl e and tossed heavy ca bl es as ho re whi ch we clamped aro und tree stumps w e had cut Th e crew pulled the barge with th e pow er win ches Th ey left with th e tu g aft e r th e Capt ain re min ded us he d id not w ant th e dec k o f th e barge to rn up by th e ca t W e w ere to pl ank th e tr ac ks I forgo t ho w m any million s o f doll a rs h e sa id th e ba rge co st And dont smo ke on it because th e even foo t d eep ho ld is full o f fu el fumes

W e go t ri ght to wo rk J D pu shed ton s o f dirt and trees into the ri ve r between th e sho re and th e barge Half o f it washed aw ay but fin all y enough logs and trees w ere cri ss -crossed and thi s base began to hold th e mud and dirt and soon w e had a ramp

(whi c h continued to w as h awa y) W e imm ediate ly began to pull everythin g o n board In a co upl e o f hours w e w ere all loaded ju st as our ramp vani shed What a good fee ling w e had Thi s w as 1972 M r Berry start ed thi s pro jec t a hun d red mil es away bac k i n 1961 Th e tu g captain sent a sm all boa t for us as w e w ere no t to sleep o n the ba rge

The nex t day the tu g brou ght o ur p reciou s ca rgo down strea m to th e r iv er dock of th e Uni o n O il Company M r Co ghill own er of thi s Co mpany was kin d eno ugh to le t us co mpl etely tear up hi s ya rd w ith th e ca t in th e unl oa din g process J D straightened th e ya rd o ut later w ith th e doze r b lade We pull ed everythin g to a dirt side street out of everyon es w ay and wondered where w e could store the airplan e

We d iscove red an aba ndoned e lec t r ic company powe r sub stati o n at th e edge o f town It had a cyc lo ne fence aro und it with a ga te and loc k W e found th e own e r to be Gold en Vall ey Electri c Assoc iation Inc whose offi ce was in Fairbanks W e w ent there saw Mr Boyd Ro bert s as ked and w ere given permi ss io n to use th e Nenana Station for a month signed a hol d harmless agreement and return ed to Nenan a Th en w e reali zed w e had to cross two set s of railroad trac ks with th e ca t and the airpl ane You ju st don t run a c rawler pulling an eight thou sa nd pound load on rou gh log kids across anoth er mans railro ad tracks Afshy

ter much negotiating with the local railroad depot personnel we got the okay to cross th e tracks if w e first built a bridge of planks to run on This we did and pull ed the tri-m o tor up to the pow er station ga te o nly to fi nd the ga te was too small to all ow th e airshypl ane to pass thro ugh W e got so me shove ls d ug down all aro und o ne ga te pos t until w e hit th e huge chunk of con cre te th e po st was ce mented int o Th is w e lifted o ut with th e dozer b lade W e then pull ed the airpl ane in side th e fence repl anted th e ce ment and pos t closed the ga te and locked i t I th en so ught an o ld gentlem en that li ved ac ross th e stree t and gave him some do ll ars in re turn fo r hi s sh OO ing away any peopl e he may obse rve climbing th e fence with an int eres t in o ld airpl anes

Th e nex t day w as spe nt load in g lt1 11 o f J 0 equipmen t o n a ra ilroad fl at-car fo r shi pmen t to Fairshyba nks W e later drove to Fairbanks in J Ds tru ck and too k a mu ch needed res t W e vi sit ed o th e r spots where I observed a compl ete Norse man an d a Gull Win g Stin son rotting o ut side in the element s and suffering hard knocks fr o m snow plows J D also took me to the mu seum at th e U niversit y o f Alas ka where I could have spent a co upl e days Aft er that we too k the airlin e down to An cho rage and vi sited Mr Reddin the curato r o f the Air Transportation Mu se um who gave us a sw ell tour of thi s institution

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(Dick Souffer phoo)

itting tab A into slot B is no easy task in a rebuild of his size

(Dick 5rouffer ph 00)

The monumental task is nearing comp letion and may be flying when you read this

This musellm and its contents has since burned to the ground

I then said goodbye to J D and spent the next six and a half hours inhaling Vodka martinis on a non stop jet to Chicago

The tri-motor was picked up by semi truck along with a new set of wings Mr Berry had aquired that went with the deal The airplane is being rebuilt in Crvsta Lak~ Wisconsin and should flv this summer Perh rt ps some day J D and I may watch it fly at sClIe antique meet

F-or the record Stinson NC15165 was manufactured under ATC 556 model A serial No 9125 Engines were Lycoming (3) model R-680-5 260 hp each engines serials were Rt 2-1292 Lt 2-1400 ten 2-1290 Number of crew and passengers 9 PCLM

Delivered to original owner February 28 1936 American Airlines Inc 4848 West 63 Street Chicago Illinois

Ship damaged at Washington D C on June 8 1936 when a drunk drove a car into the tail while th e ship was parked near a hanger at the Washington ai rport

On November 2 1939 the total time on thi s aircraft was given as 223403 hours

Sold to Lavery Airways William L Lavery Fairshybanks Alaska April 27 1940

Sold to Raymond I Peterson DBA Ray Peterson Flying Service Anchorage Alaska September 14 1942

Sold to Ray Peterson Flying Service Raymond I Peterson Marie Antoinette Peterson Glen I Dillard Anchorage Alaska April 26 1944

Crashed November 1947 No details given On February 19 1948 so ld to Northern Conshy

so lidated Airlines Inc Box 1439 Anchorage Alaska Remarks Delivered to American Airlines M arch 2 1936

NC Licenses iss ued to expire 3-1-37 3-1-38 3-15-39 and 11-15-40 On 11-14-40 license NC-15165 approved for one year Aircraft disapproved for license on 10-30-42 due to bad original fabric Ship approved for license on 5-15-43 for one year

The next chapter is for Mr J D Berry to write should he wish to do so

For five years now I have sought and acquired what I believe is a complete listing of every serial number of the Stinson A models produced I followed one rumor and found some bones of an A model I believe there are two more in existence in what condition I do not know however I am going to find out Who knows

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WORLD WAR I ERA REPLICA PLANS

Compiled by Leonard Opdycke

15 Crescent Rd Poughkeepsie NY 12601

Reprinted WWI Aeroplanes

FOR YOUR INFORMATION (Abb reviations used below H = H awker-S iddel ey Avishyation Ltd Richmond Road Kingston-upon-Thames KT2 5QS UK (Attn j Crampton Deputy Sales Mgr L50 per set of drawings for anyone aircraft)

W = Wright-Patterson AFB OH 45433 (Attn Verna M Frazier Freedom of Information Manager Adminishyst rati on Office Headquarters Aeronautical Systems Div) (AFSC) Antoinette

4 sheets of the German Albatross-b uilt version drawn by Gabriel-Sales Desk National Museum of Science and Technology 1867 St Laurent Boulevard Ottawa Ontario K1A OM8 Canada

Bellanca 1912 shyComplete set of drawings $4000 - Mike Murphy 4923 West 99 Oak Lawn Illinois 60453

Berchman B-2 Scout (1918) W (Can 482)

Bleriot XI Complete set of drawings instructions $1500 -Mel Miller 2030 Geary Albany Oregon 97321

Complete set in BUILDING AN AEROPLANE by C B Hayward 1912 rep rinted by Kings Box 17646 Nashville Tennessee 37217 ($350)

Bristol F2B A few miscellan eous drawings not enough to build from many structura l photos parts and rigging manuals operating manual - LEO WWI AEROPLANES

Bristol Scout A A xerox copy of the 500 - ser ies of drawings from Frank Barnwells own notebook (not for sale maybe recopy) - LEO WWI AEROPLANES

Bristol Scout D Many 8 x 10 sheets cop ies from orig in al Bristol factory drawings enough to build from (not for sa le maybe recopy) - LEO WWI AEROPLANES

Curtiss JN4 series jN4(Can) 35mm microfilm roll - Ken Hyde RD 1 Warrenton VA 22186

jN4D Ken Hyde (above) from Canadian Aeroplane Company Ltd Can 66 - W Air Force Museum Wright Patterson AFB Dayton OH (not same as W above) 20 sheets 17 x 22 ga and structure from factory drawings - Charles F Schultz 910 Broadfields Drive Louisville KY 40207 23 draWings incomplete but good coverage shyGordon E Codding 4572 W 147 Street Lawnshydale California Rep rinted operating m anual $3 00 - Aviation Publi cat ion s 2036 Ludin gton Avenue Milwaukee Wisconsin

jH4 From Curtiss-Wright Aeroplane and Motor Corp Can 495 - W

Curtiss 0-1 XO-1 0-2 W (Can 301)

Curtiss Pusher 34 x 48 plate showin g co nst ruction of 1910 Curtiss A-frame $1000 Herbert L Kelley 56424 Hand ley Road Yucca Valley CA 92284

Set of drawings developed from orig inal Curtiss prints $2500 Charles F Schu ltz (above)

Co mplete set fOf construction - Mel Miller (above)

Co mplete set in BUILDING AN AEROPLANE Kings (above) - but note 468 for Charles Willards cautionary note o n using these plans

Chanute Hang Glider jack Lambie 115B Merrimac Drive Anaheim California 92807

DeHaviliand 4 Dayton-Wright Aeroplane Corp (DH4 DH4B) shyW (Can 195)

Miscellaneous drawings from AF Museum (above) Fisher Body (DH4) - W (Can 191)

DeHaviliand 99A Few drawings including float models - Colin A Owers Box 241 Quirindi NSW 2343 Australia

Fokker DVII BLUE MAX DVII drawings - Harold Best-Devershyeux 11 Stonehills House Welwyn Garden City Herts UK

11 plates 34 x 48 for 1601180 Mercedes versions $11000 Herbert L Kelley (above)

AF Museum (above) 11 plates 34 x 54 $12100 with raw materials and parts to be available later - Stolp Starduster Corporat ion 4301 Twining Riverside Calif

Fokker DVIII Full set from Platz original sketches for Warner powered reproduction s E D Swearingen 40 Monee Road Park Forest Illinois

AF Museum (above) Dan-San Abbott (in process of entry for Roland DVI below)

Fokker Drl Brochure $200 and full set of working drawings for Warner reproductions Walter W Redfern Route 1 Athol Idaho 83801

10 sheets done towards a complete set each $400 plus spar and rib sets fiber-glass cowls - Ron Sands RD 1 Mertztown PA 19539

Fokker EI 1 plate 22 x 30 1 to 1 for full sca le detail f ly in g model $1000 Herbert L Kelley (above)

Fokker EIII 25 9 x 7 photos of structure of Kensington Science Museum EIII $2500 plus $100 po stage - Ed Brannon 1405 Marcella NE Albuquerque NM 87112

Fokker VI 8 plates 17 x 22 1110 sca le structure developed from photos and historical data (of 44) $2500shyHerbert L Kelley (above)

1 plate 34 x 54 1110 scale for 26 span model $1000 - Herbert L Kelley (above)

Macchi-Hanriot HD1 Drawings $12000 - Chris j Warrilow 141 Chairshyborough Road Hi gh Wycombe Bucks U K

Nieuport 17 Rozendaal drawings - Fred Kom Losy 725 Robin Way North Palm Beach Florid a 33408

Air Force Museum (above) 3 sheets $225 - National Museum of Science and Technology (above)

Nieuport 24 Walt Redford (above)

Nieuport 27 Fred Kom Losy (above) Gordon E Codding (above)

Nieuport 28C1 Air Force Museum (above)

Pfalz Dill Darnell Sitton 1925 N Vermont Avenue 7 Los Angeles CA 90027

Pfalz DXII Set of 30 fine 5 x 7 photos of the EAA Museums DXI I under reconstruction $2000 (a ircraft on permanent loan from National Air and Space Museum) Ben Owen EAA Museum Box 229 Hales Corners WI 53130 ($1500 for EAA members)

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RAF Se5A 32 photos as above $2000 ($1500 to EAA memshybers) - Ben Owen EAA Air Museum (above)

Drawings for 85 scale all-wood reproduction - Replica Plans 953 Kirkmond Crescent Richshymond BC CANADA

Air Force Museum (above) Gordon E Codding (above) Complete set from which RAF Museum ship was rebuilt - Public Records Office Chancery Lane London UK (See Note below also)

Roland DVlab 5 sheets 34 x 44 fully detailed $5000 plus postage $350 (these fine drawings reviewed this issue p2) - Dan-San Abbott 25886 Gettysburg Avenue Hayward CA 94545

Pomilio W Can 66

Sopwith Bl Baby Bulldog Buffalo Camel Condor Cuckoo Dolphin Dove Dragon Gnu Gun Bus Hippo Pup Rainbow Ram Rhino Salamander Snail Snapper Snipe 112 Strutter Swallow Tabloid Triplane

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Sopwith Camel Air Force Museum (above) Gordon E Codding (above) Clayton amp Shuttleworth drawings of F1 Some 2F1 200 drawings for $144 Chris J Warrilow (above)

Sopwith Pup GordonE Codding (above) Air Force Museum (above) 72 drawings 18 x 24 $162 00 - Smithsonian Institution Washington DC

Sopwith Triplane (110 Clerget) Clayton amp Shuttleworth drawings about 100 for $7200 Chris Warrilow (above)

S Wieser Dir Plantetarium Clagary Parks Departshyment Box 2100 Calgary Alberta Canada

Sopwith Miscellaneous Types (SS SSD2 SPGN 150 hp Smith D3 S STS STD D2 DS frS 225 Sunbeam frS 220 hp Seaplane 2FR2 50 Gnome Biplane)

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Sopwith-Kauper Gun Gear H

Spad 7 Air Museum (above) Gordon E Codding (above) Jack Hickey 1659 Willis S St Paul Minn 55705shy20 sheets for $7500

Spad 13 Gordon E Codding (above)

Sperry Messenger W (Can 289)

Standard 11 Air Force Museum (above)

Thomas-Morse S4C Air Force Museum (above) Gordon E Codding (above)

Wright Gliders 4 plates 1899 Kite 17 x 22 1900-01-02 Gliders 110 sca le 34 x 48 total $3500 - Herbert L Kelley (above)

Wright Flyer 1903 Master drawings made for construction of Kitty Hawk Memorial reproduction 21 sheets for $2200 (make check payable to Cooper-Trent) - Louis S Casey Cu rator Aircraft amp Aeronautics National Air amp Space Museum Washington DC 20560)

Notes Complete drawings for display or building the Spandau LMGO-8-15 mig 3 x 6Vz - Ray Hollings 338054 Street San Diego CA 92105

RAE TECH MEMO 4 This catalog is subtitled

The EAA Aviation Museum is now the proud owner

Catalogue of Original Tracings of Aircraft and Engines Designed and Built by the RAE 1911-1918 assembled by Wing Commander NHF Unwin from Public Records Office Chancery L ne London UK Drawings are listed by aircraft type subject of drawing and drawing number any can be bought separately The SE5A set is complete (of RAF SE5A above) Types for which at least some drawings are available

Bristol Scout Bristol F2B Cierva Autogyro DH1-69-10 Hamble Baby Handley-Page 0400

V-1500 Short 225 320 Sopwith 1 Pup Triplane

Camel Snipe Dolphin

RAF BE1-5 7-1012 RAF CE1 RAF FE1-9 12 RAF NE1 RAF HAM I RAF Hydro-Aeroplane 17 RAF HRE 2 RAF RE1 3 5-9 RAF BS1 RAF SE1 2 4 4a 5 5a RAF TE1

EAAs Aviation Museum has built a replica of its own the Ryan NX-211 Spirit of SI Louis its also sponsored construction of this replica Wright Flyer at the Blackshyhawk Technical Institute in janesville Wisconsin

of this replica Fokker DR-I Triplane which was built and shydonated by Robert H Fergus of Columbus Ohio The white paint scheme on this replica was used by Lt Hans Weiss who flew with von Richtoffen

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planes fighters up through transportw Brad Thomas JrNotice of Annual Business Meeting C-54sPilot Mountain North Carolina Today he holds a commercial licenseand Manufacturer with single and multi-engine land and Born in High Point North CarolinaElection of Officers and Directors instrument ratings and remains actively

Brad was educated at McCallie School flying with his Gyrocopter and VW powshyNotice is hereby given that an annual business Chattanooga Tennessee MIT Camshy ered Scamp both built by him a Moonshy

meeting of the members of the EAA AntiqueClassic bridge Massachusetts and High Point ey for travel and a D-17R Staggerwing Division will be held on Saturday August 5 1978 at College His flying career began at the He is currently Secretary of the Antique

age of 16 when he soloed and obtained1030 AM (Central Daylight Time) at the 26th Anshy Classic Division of EAA Oshkosh Conshynual Convention of the Experimental Aircraft Associashy his private license in 1938 The advent vention Classic Awards Chairman and tion Inc Wittman Field Oshkosh Wisconsin of World War II encouraged his enlistshy Chief Judge Secretary and Treasurer

Notice is hereby further given that the annual ment in the Army Air Corps as a pilot of EAA Chapter 8 Greensboro N C election of officers and directors of the EAA Antique He graduated from British Flying Trainshy Vice-President of EAA Antique ChapshyClassic Division will be conducted by ballot disshy ing School No5 Clewiston Florida with ter 3 and a member of their executive tributed to the members along with this June issue of both Air Corps and RAF wings was transshy committee Br-ad and his wife Ferne The Vintage Airplane Said ballot must be returned ferred to the 7th Ferry Group Air Transshy have five children of which one is an properly marked to the Ballot Tally Committee EAA port Command Great Falls Montana active oilot AntiqueClassic Division Box 229 Hales Corners where he ferried most types of Air Corps Wisconsin 53130 and received no later than August 3 1978

Ronald Fritz Chairman Nominating Committee

W Brad Thomas Jr Secretary the acquisition of his private pilot li shyEAA AntiqueClassic Division cense he immediately bought and reshy

stored his first airplane a 1946 Cessna AI Kelch 140 N72323 which had been used as Mequon Wisconsin a trainer at South Dayton Airport In

Manufacturer1953 he rebuilt and restored 1946 Cessna AI -started his own company in 1950 140 N73018 and flew it during the reshy

mainder of 1953 and 1954 During this The Kelch Corp which is now a conshysame period J R bought an extensively glomerate of 5 small manufacturing comshydamaged 1949 Cessna 170A N9730A and panies in the industrial plastic field completely rebuilt and restored it inshy AI s interest in airplanes goes back cluding splicing the parts of two fuseshy to his childhood in the 1920s when he

would sit on his fathers lap and fly iniages together to make one With the completion of the Cessna his uncles Jenny whenever the Jenny

170A in early 1955 he flew to Florida came to town barnstorming where he was hired as an AampP by the He is a lifetime member of EAA and

local Cessna distributor Sunny South AAA He was president of the WisconshyAircraft Service Later that same year sin Chapter of AAA for two terms and he joined Pan American World Airways a director of AntiqueClassic Division as a co-pilot flying Convair 240s Since of EAA for two terms He served as edishythen he has flown Douglas DC-4 6 7C tor of The Vintage Airplane magazine from

January 1976 until February 1978 8 Boeing 707 and 720 aircraft Besides J R Nielander Jr He currently owns and flies a 1939 his ATR and mechanic tickets he also Fort Lauderdale FL Piper J3 Cub which he completely re-Pan Am Pilot J R was elected vice-president of the

holds a flight navigator license stored in 1968 and a 1939 Franklin Sport

By the time he learned to fly at Lakeshy AntiqueClassic Division at its organizashy biplane which he restored in 1969 A wood Airpark Mount Healthy Ohio tional meeting on November 6 1971 1931 Travel Air 12Q will be flying this

summer and two American Eaglets and in 1951 J R had already completed He held that office until he was elected five years of university study as well president by the Board of Directors at an E2 Cub are his current restoration as one year of graduate school With their meeting on February 5 1976 projects

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Morton W Lester Martinsville Virginia Builder-Developer and Real Estate Investor

Morton is President of The Lester Corshyporation and Vice-President of Motor Imports Inc He is Executive Vice-Presishydent of the Virginia Aeronautical Hisshytorical Society and a board member of several other civic governmental busishyness and humanitarian organizations Morton was soloed by his father at the age of 10 in a Piper Cub He currently owns several prototype antiques such as the Ryan SCW Davis Low Wing Aeronca and Johnson Rocket His curshyrent ship is a civilian Howard DGA-15P He also owns a rare Travel Air 6000B which is currently undergoing restorashytion under the careful expertise of his cousin Pete Covington Morton is a Trustee of the EAA Air Museum Foundashytion and a past chairman of the Classic Judging Team of Oshkosh He is past president and current member of the executive committee of EAA Chapter 395 (NC Sc amp Va Antique Airplane Foundation) Morton and his wife Marshygaret have three children

M C Kelly Viets Stilwell Kansas Consulting Engineer Self-Employed

Kelly entered the consulting engineer field in 1938 and spent World War II designing airports and base facilities for the U S government He started his own firm Viets Consulting Engishyneers in 1954 He is a registered proshyfessional engineer and holds membershyship in numerous professional societies Kelly spent a lot of his younger days around Kansas City Municipal and Fairshyfax airports seeing Benny Howards Ike make its first flights the Travel Air Mystery Ship on the way to Cleveshyland all the early airliners etc He startshyed flight instruction in 1938 in a 55 hp Porterfield and finally got his ticket on the GI Bill in 1946 Kelly and his wife Edna own an Ercoupe and the two of them started and manage the Internashytional Ercoupe Association Their monthshyly newsletter goes out to over 550 Ershycoupe enthusiasts around the world Kelly also owns and is restoring the 14shy12 Bellanca that was used as the protoshytype for the 14-13 series He is a Director of EAAs Antique-Classic Division Kelly and Edna have 3 children

Art Morgan Milwaukee Wisconsin Oster Service Division

Art Morgan began flying in 1961 and received his private license in 1962 In 1965 he went on to get his commercial rating

He has been a member of EAA since 1962 and was parking airplanes at Rockshyford Illinois

Art was one of the first to start buildshying a KR-1 and although he did not complete his project he was instrumenshytal in the completion of two of the little birds

In 1974 he and his wife Kate purchased a 1939 Luscombe 8-C which he promptly rebuilt After two years of flying the Lusshycombe Art and several friends organshyized the American Luscombe Club

Art has served the EAA as a museum volunteer for several years as Classic parking chairman at Oshkosh and also as Antique-Classic parking chairman

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I Pioneer Northwest pilot Eclith Fol tz lVel 1 neltive of Dallas maiden name - 1agali She learned to I) in Portlaml Oregon Fel)(uar) of l)l8

l IJdrntormecl a long-wing Edglerock (OX-5) middotkCfuirec License 5nOO and lVas th e fifth US wOlllan to ohtain the Transport rlIing

J Barnstorming the Northwest - Pilot Greenwood in a Ryan Brougham and Edith in the OX-5 Eaglerock

4 Edith placed second in the light-plane division of the first Nashytional Womens Air Derby 1929 Santa Monica to Cleveland flying an Alexander Eaglerock Bullet (Kinner engine) Charter member of the 99s

5 May 1930 - Edith christening The Romer new five-passenger airplane manufactured by the National Aircraft Corp Beavershyton Oregon

Vintag The Flying life

Compile (Special thanks to Paulin sharing Edith Sterns scr

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1 I Edith Stearns in structed Naval and Kingsv ille TX after WWII with Pauline Glasson Decease

Album m es of Edith Foltz Stearns ~ I enn Bu ff ington on of Co rp us Chr isti Texas fo r ( w ith us - also to I B Decker the photos)

ts in ins trum ent flying at Corpus Christi eel the 52 and 53 Powder Puff Derbies 956 ending a brillidnt flying career

Edith served as th e first Northwest Section Governor of the 99s - and she also w as Oregon Governor of the National Aeronautics Assn in the ea rl y ]Os She flew a Kinner Bird in the 3 7 and 32 derbies both from Sa nta Monica to Cleveland (4th in 3 7 and 2nd in 32 in th e women s division)

7 Edith and her son Richard Foltz age 6 in 793 7 a t Portland Oregon

8 7932 a t Cleveland Na tiona l Air Races (L to R) Vio la Gentry G ladys ODonn ell Florence Klingensmith Frank Phillips Edith Foltz Stearns and Frances Marsalis taken with Phillips Woolshyaroc Trophy Edith flew th e Bird to 2nd place in the Amelia Earhart Trophy Race (pylons) 1932 Klingesmith was first in a Monoco upe

9 Sk irts ~a flyin Edith Foltz Stea rns models one or her trade-marked FoIZLIp flying lOgs which eas il y converted to st reet wear - 7 932

I O Edith managed a new feeder airl in e a t Portshyland dnd taught prim ary CPT at Salem prior to WWII - se rved in En g land as a Firs t Officer in the Air Tran sport Aux iliary here in uniform

(Fred Chew photo)

Bills Cessna 140 slips through a quick left turn in a test of-rhe new splas h rails

A Harbor for Classics By David Gustafson Editor

Some fo lks would argue that Bali Hi is a mythical Island out in the South Pacific where the best in life is an everyday affair There are a few peoplehowshyever who would be inclined to suggest that the protoshytype model for Bali Hi can be found on the Southshyeast corner of Stafford Pond in Westport Masshysachusetts Thats where Bill Walsh lives What makes it special Well hes got several acres of land in the secluded inlet of a clear lake He doesn t have palm trees though his Norwegian pines give the same effect on a warm and breezy summer night To improve the natural scene Bill put in a dock laid down some railroad track for a movable ramp that can be winched right into the hangar he erected 200

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feet from the water Naturally there has to be someshything to place in the hangar so Bills lined the walls with tools and bending brakes The space thats left is reserved for his Cessna 140 Floatplane and the Aeronca Sedan hes rebuilding so he can be a twoshyfloatplane family

The Cessna 140 was built in 1948 and sent directly from Wichita to Sea Wings of Connecticut for conshyversion to floats It was then sold with floats and wheels With the stock Continental 85 horsepower engine the plane was marginal as a hot day aquatic performer Getting off the surf with two husky adults when its over 75 degrees out is a groaning process Some of the problem relates to the high speed airshy

foil that works nicely in cruise but does little to generate the kind of take-off lift you get in someshything like a Cub or Champ Even as a ground plane the Cessna requires a long take-off roll

Once airborne however the 140 levels off to a respectable 90 mph with a corkscrew that measures a wide 76 x 38 Bill s hoping to swap the C-85 someday for an 0-200 so he can take up so me of his fat friends in the mint julip season

As fa r as skidding around the pond Bill reports theres very little difference between the 140 and comshyparably sized float planes Of course the take-off runs lon ge r but once airborne (40-45 mph ) it climb s well and flies with much greater stability than a

land model The floats give it a big plane feeling says Bill

Stalls with a floating 140 are similar to the land configuration and intentional spins are strictly verbotten

When Bill bought the plane in 1963 it was on the floats but he couldnt get it off the water The floats leaked Experimentation revealed that the keel opened up on a take-off run so they were replaced Later he added spray rails which eliminated the center wake and brought the plane up onto the step quicker

In the wintertime the floats are replaced with skis and Bill goes out to race the ice boats Between

he floats and the skis the wheels havent been on the 140 for several years now When he wants to bounce around a paved runway he heads off to Fall River Airport haul s out a 170-B (of which he owns 1115th) and renews his acquaintance with toe brakes and squealing rubber

Like a growing number of people in EAA Bill divides his time between flying one project and tinkershying with another Hes lucky enough to have an Aeronca 15 AC Sedan as that other project He picked it up a couple years ago at a price that would take the wind out of some people Ask anyone who knows Bill or his close friend Fred Chew and theyll tell you that those two guys deserve a special suit that says SUPER-SCROUNGERS across the chest They have uncanny talents at picking up materials for nothing or next to it More than once in recent history theyve plucked chicken feathers out of an old Continental or Lycoming that was retrieved from the dark corner of a barn for around $100 (Actually Bills just finished a two-year term as President of EAA Chapter 51 in Middletown Rhode Island and Freds still the Chapter Designee - they have both done an excellent job)

When the opportunity arose they dickered and diddled and sang the song of a snake charmer until they could come home with a smile and that particular Sedan

Naturally the plane needed a little work The previous owner had argued with a pine tree The tree not only won but took the left wing as a prize The Aeronca was apparently so shocked by the action that it pulled back and stood up on the right wing as if to say I beg your pardon When things got back to level the right tip was mashed

How many times do you suppose guys like Bill and Fred have set out to unbend a wing but wound

(Fred Chew photo)

Off and flying the 140 is a marginal performer on hot days with a full load

(Fred Chew photo)

This Cessna 140 has been a regular feature in Bills back- yard for 15 years

up rebuilding the entire machine You can add their names to the list

One thing Bill quickly points out is that he and Fred are not engaged in a full-scale down-to-theshylast-screw restoration project Nope When it flies again i t will still be clearly recognizable as an Aeronca Sedan but there are some (approved ) changes in store Most obvious is the addition of brackets for float struts A presto-change-o routine with a few bolts will convert the plane from land to sea or vice versa

Conveniently it so happened that the greatest crash damage occurred on the left side Fred happily ripped out the bent tubes bent a few new ones and followed the STC cookbook for installing a left side door that opens upwards to the wing Its an approved mod for a seaplane configuration

(David Gustafson photo) Progress in the rebuild ing effort is evi shydent in this shot o f th e Sedan th e left wing attachment has been repaired the fusel age has been blas ted and primed the new left door frame is complete and a new headlin er s being installed

(Fred Chew photo) after abrupt removshy

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Each of the large metal wings originally contained 20 gallon rubber gas bladders (say that three times) and both leaked after the crash Replacement cost was $700 apiece so the wing panels were torn off and Fred bent up a couple of metal tanks that are larger than the originals Between the tanks and the twisted metal from the crash Fred figures hes disshymantled at least 80 per cent of the wings and replaced 50 per cent of the total materials Included are a number of ribs shaped by hand on wooden formers which were also hand etched from the pieces bound for the junk heap That translates into a lot of aluminum the wing span is 376 with a chord in excess of 5 feet which produces 200 square feet of wing area In the end Fred will be able to reproduce any curved part of the Sedans wing and yes he plans to come up with quotes for others needing help (write Fred Chew 158 Meridian Street Fall River Massach usetts 02720)

With the Clark Y airfoil and a Continental 145 horsepower engine the Sedan leaps off the ground almost as fast as a two-place Cub When you turn it into a Seadan by adding a couple EDO 2000s it breaks surf suction with a simple hop skip and a slurping leap The only drawback is that with the 2000s you cant hop unless there are only two people on board With four people and full tanks the floats become submarines As a result the two resourceful metal benders who plan to build their own floats are giving serious thought to making something bigshyger

(David Gustafson photo)

Detail of the float attachment fitting

Bills Aeronca was built in 1948 and like most classics its alread~ changed hands a few times Dr Paul Nussbaum was the first to drop mud on the carpets in 49 John Ru sh moved it from Missouri to Ohio ten years later After another decade a pair of partners in Pennsylvania flew it for awhile and then left it with another partnership in New York Gerry Broskin and Harris Gordon revamped the panel and went IFR Soon after that it became the answer to a dream for Ron and Diane Rissone in Randolph Massachusetts But then there was this pine tree That brings the odyssey of N1365H to Bill Walsh hangar and private seaplane base

The next time Bills Sedan sees another runway itll obviously be sporting rebuilt wings and new float brackets in addition there ll be a new windshield all new woodwork new ceconite new headliner new used back seats (from a Tri-Pacer yet) a new panel (still IFR) and discussion has already started about a total engine overhaul

Theres one other new item in the works for the Sedan When its checked out on its wheels again there ll be a streamlined gas tank nestled in the gear bay You see Bill and Fred have promised themselves this extended tour of South America once they finish

Then the Sedan will bob in the harbor beside the Cessna and Bill can wrestle with the question which one do I fly today

(David Gustafson photo)

Fred Chew holds up the new tip hes built for the right wing

(David Gustafson photo)

Bill Walsh displys the seaplane door thats being installed on the left side of th e Sedan

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Restoration Tips a photo essay provided by

Fred Chew 158 Meridian St

Fall River Mass 02720

(Note Freds kept an exce llent photo record of the process of rebuilding the wings for Bill Walshs Aeronca Sedan It gives a good idea of how to do it and how much works involved)

No2 - Teardown reveals the damage No4 - Line up new to old

No 1 - Last step before rebuilding

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Aeronca Sedan spar repair 7976 (Right wing) No5 - Extrusion repair

No8 - Removing old section No 10 - Repair of extrusion spar No6 - Horizontal-line up

No7 - New piece made ready for hole flare No9 - Ready for spar extrusion repair No 17 - New piece in place for riveting

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No 12 - Nose rib in place No 15 - Form to fit inside of old damaged spar tip rib NO 78 - Hand form mg

No 73 - C1eco nose rib to spa r No 16 - 032 alclad ready to be clamped in form No 79 - Flanging spar tip

No 74 - Ready to repair rear spar No 77 - Form ready for hand bending jig for lightening holes No 20 - More of same 22

No 27 - Trim off excess flange No 24 - Test fit to spar No 27 - 032 alclad 2024 TJ

No 22 - Trim square to form No 25 - Fly cutting lightening holes No 28 - Spar tip ready for installation

No 23 - Remove from form No 26 - Flanging No 29 - Clecos test line up 23

The Babv Cessna

It was born in Wichita Kansas at the Cessna fac-shytory in 1929 Because of the stock market slump the Airplane manufacturing business fell off drasshytically To try and keep the plant in operation Eldon Cessna decided to design and build a light airplane that could be sold at a low price As a result the EC-1 was developed It was powered with a 25 hp Cleone engine

At the time I was enrolled at the Braley School of Flying which was located directly across the road to the east of the Cessna field I spent much of my spare time at the field watching the men work on and fly the Baby Cessna It was a fascinating little airplane

Early last year I was looking for a suitable airshyplane to model for a C02 Powered model airplane contest I remembered the Baby Cessna and thought it would be just what I wanted

In doing research for drawings and photos I found that photos of both the EC-1 and the EC-2 were available but no drawings I had a photo of the EC-1 that I had taken with my Brownie box camera The EC-2 looked cleaner with its design refinements and the Aeronca E-107 engine

I met Eldon Cessna at-an OX5 get-to-gether at the Santa Paula Airport and we discussed the EC-2 at length He informed me that plans had never been published The EC-2 (cn 253 N405W) was the last Baby Cessna built

From the photos and from memory of being around the Baby Cessna these plans for a model were drawn Imagine what a delightful fun airplane it would be for a homebuilt replica project today These specifications appeared in the 1930 issue of Air Age magazine

Baby Cessna EC-2 (cn253 N405W) 30 hp Aeronca E-707A

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Baby Cessna EC-7 (cn 257 N403W) 25 hp Cleone 1930

By Cedric Calloway EAA 752

74624 Willow Street Hesperia CA 92345

~ --~ THE BABY CESSNA

Span 34 ft 11 in Wing area 163 sq ft Length overall 20 ft 4 in Height overall bull 5 ft 6 in Weights

Empty 470 Ibs Gross 925 Ibs

Gasoline capacity 8 gal Oil capacity 34 gal Power (Aeronca E-107A) 30 hp

PERFORMANCE

High speed 86 mph Cruising speed 70 mph Stalling speed 38 mph Climb first minute 740 ft Ceiling (service) 15000 ft Cruising range 200 miles

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Two Continental aircraft engines for sale Crated and ready for shipment Continental Amiddot75-8 OSMO - Total Time 1386 hrs Crankshaft - standard size - pistons 015 over Comshyplete less carbo Complete logs Price - $185000 Continenshytal A-65-8 OSMO - Total Time 218 hrs Pistons and crankshyshaft - standard size Complete less harness Complete logs Price - $225000 Jon J Thompson telephone 804 285-2929 9 AM - 5 PM Monday through Friday

PROPELLERS

Custom built props for Con tin ental Lycoming GPUs etc Fast delivery Chad Wille 5957 Sevi ll e St Lake Grove OR 97034

ARROW SPORT reduction gear and o il pan for Ford V-8 flatshyhead engine new Mark Dees 358 S Beverly Dr Beverly Hill s CA 90212 213552-0192

WANTED Any information concerning the Lincoln Sport Biplane produced in Lincoln Nebraska in the 1920s (parshytial plans shown in the 1930 Flying and Glider Manual ) Mr Harry R Owen Box 304 Isanti MN 55040

Calendar of Events JUNE 9-11 - SPRINGFIELD OHIO - 2nd Annual Spring EAA Midshy

Eastern Regional Fly-In (ME RFI ) Air Show awards on airport camping static displays etc Please check NOTAMS Contact Myrna Lewi s 241 Bassett Drive Springfie ld Ohio 44506 5131 323-2424

JUNE 16-18 - ANDERSON INDIANA - Second Annual Cessna 120shy140 Assn Fly- In and meeting Quad City Municipal Airport Moshyline Ill inois For information con tact Frank Han cock SecfTreas 3941 West Cross St Anderson IN 46011317643-1593

JUNE 17middot18 - FREDERICKSBURG VIRG INIA - Antique Aircraft FlyshyIn Shannon Airport Air Show attract ions Bob Hoover Bob Rus shysell and Duane Cole

JUNE 21middot26 - TULLAHOMA TENNESSEE - Annual Staggerwingl Travel Air International Convention Forums formation fl yi ng and fun Contad John Parish clo Lannom Mfg Co Tullahoma Tennessee 38388 615455-0691

JUNE 23middot25 - HAMILTON OHIO - Annual National Waco Reunion Fly-In Contact Ray Brandly 2650 W Alex-Bell Rd Dayton OH 45459 513435-9725

JULY 1-2 - GAINESVILLE GEORGIA - 11th Annual Cracker Fly-In at Lee-Gilmer Airport Awards will be presented in all categories O ur banquet will be at the Gainesville Ho liday Inn Saturday night July 2 Len Povey has accepted an invitation to be guest speaker Accommodations - Gainesvi lle Holiday Inn and other local motels Information Jim Ealy 3535 Childers Road Roswell Georgia 30075 404993-4568

JULY 1-9 - BLAKESBURG IOWA - Wright Brothers 75th Annivershysary Fly-In at th e Antique Airfield In cl udes World War II PT and Liaison Plane Fly-In July 1-3 Fairchild Club Fly-In and Unique Airshyplane Fly-In July 8-9

JULY 9 - EASTON PENNSYLVANIA - 2nd Annual Aeronca FlyshyIn Easton Airport 10 AM to 230 PM open to all types of Aeroncas Rain date July 16 Contact Jim Polles 2151759-3713 nights and weekends

JULY 14-16 - MINDEN NEBRASKA - Second Annual National Stinshyson Club Fly-In Pioneer Field near Harold Warp s Pioneer Vilshylage BBQ Friday night for early arriva ls Saturday night banq uet and awards Schedu led events Fly-In Chairman Bob Near 2702 Butterfoot Lane Hastings Nebraska 68901 402463-9309

JULY 15middot16 - LOCKPORT ILLINOI S - Chapter 15 and 86 of the Ch icago area EAA are now formulating plans for their 18th Annua l Fly-In and Air Show to be held at Lewis University In shyformation Janice P Fish PO 411 Lemont Illinoi s 60439

JULY 15-16 - LONG ISLAND NEW YORK - Antique Airp lane Club of Grea ter New York 16th Annual Fly- In Brookhaven Airport Brookhaven Long Island New York

JULY 16 - DUNKIRK NEW YORK - A nnual Fly-In Breakfast sponsored by EAA Chapter 46 and Dunkirk Rotary Free breakshyfast to homebui lders antique and warbi rd pilots Trophies in all EAA classes Spot landing contest on arrival Contact Charles Gallagher 19 Shelby Drive Buffalo New York 14225

JULY 21-23 - COFFEYVILLE KANSAS - Funk Fly- In Funk owners pilots and friends invited Fly-b ys factory and museum tours banquet Contact G Dale Beach 1621 Dreher Street Sacramento California 95814 o r Joe C Funk 2409 Edgevale Drive Coffeyshyville Kansas 67337

JULY 29 - AUGUST 5 - OSHKOSH WISCONSIN - 26th Ann ual EAA FlY-in Plan now - its the greatest show on eart h

AUGUST 6-12 - LAKELAND FLORIDA - International Cessna 170 Associat ion Conven tion Lakeland Florida

AUGUST 7-12 - FOND DU LAC WISCONSIN - 13th Annua l EAN lAC Internationa l Aeroba tic Championships For further informashytion conta ct Sam Maxwell 2116 Erie North Kansas City MO 64116

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To Qualify Write your name and membershyship number on the back of the membershyship b lanks we ve been providing in THE VIN TA GE AIRPLAN E Headq uarters w ill keep sco re

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1 I~rlII~llS Dear Sir

I am trying to get information on an aircraft that was built during the 20s called the Golden Eagle Chief It was a parasol wing powered by a radial engine type unshyknown Only about seven were built If any of your Antique classic division members know anything about this aircraft I would like to get in touch with them

I would like to take this opportunity to express what an outstanding organization I think the EAA is Ive only been a member for three years and only regret the years before I joined SPORT AVIATION is one of the best publications that I have ever read I have been to Oshkosh twice and to quite a few local fly-ins including Sun N Fun and have never seen anything more organized or better run I am looking forward to Oshkosh 78 and to continued membership in a fine organization

Sincerely james E Spradley (EAA 108947) PO Box 146 Rutledge Alabama 36071

Dear Mr Nielander Your editorial in the February issue of The Vinshy

tage Airplane is the best expression of the question of who is really qualified to maintain antique and classic aircraft (this applies equally well to some curshyrent aircraft such as the Bellanca Viking etc)

I submit the following recommendation as a way to offset some of the difficulties expressed in your excellent editorial to wit

The FAA should grant an A and E (or P) mechanics license to an individual who meets the following qualifications

(1) Passes three written examinations now required for the rating

(2) Passes the practical examination currently reshyquired

(3) Can show that he has actually done the major portion of the work in the restoration of an antique or classic airplane

You will note that the difference between these requirements and the current FAR part 65 requireshyments is the modification of sec 6577 which relates to on-the-job or schooling experience

From my own experience in restoring three airshyplanes (Luscombe Stinson Reliant Beechcraft B17L) I know that the amount of honest-to-God airplane and engine work in the usual restoration project is in exshycess of the stuff that the students in the approved

mechanic schools get Moreover during the 30 months practical experience referred to in FAR 6577 a lot of that time is spent just removing cowlings cleanshying sparkplugs changing tires sweeping floors pumpshying gas and plowing snow I guess what Im trying to do is build a case which shows that the antique classic restorer or homebuilder knows just as much about airplanes in general as does the individual who qualifies under the current provisions of FAR sec 6577

Very truly yours Thomas R Rench 1601 Circlewood Drive Racine Wisconsin 53402

Dear AI Perhaps I can shed a little light on the centershy

fold of the February issue of The Vintage Airplane The two planes pictured in the center of the page

are Top picture Wright Martin (Loening) M-8 Botshytom picture is an Ansaldo SVA-5 or SVA-9

The Loen ing was manufactured by the Wright Marshytin Corp and was built in 1921-1922 The factory deSignation was M-8

The Army Air Service designation was PW-2 PWshy2A and PW-2B Two of the PW-2 model were built in 1921 Gross weight was 2788 Ibs span 39 8 length 24 2 Ten of the PW-2A model were ordered by the Air Service but the order was cancelled after four were built in 1922 Gross weight was 2799 Ibs span 39 9 length 26 1

The PW2B was evaluated in 1922 but was never built Gross weight was to be 2976 Ibs span 34 1 length 23 4

PW-2 and PW-2A were powered by the Wright Martin H of 320 hp which was a Hisso built under license The PW2-B was to be powered by a 350 hp Packard engine

The Ansaldo can be either an SVA-5 or SVA-9 as the front view doesnt show whether it is a two place or single place The SVA-5 was single place while the SVA-9 was two place Both were powered by the Breda SPA-6A engine which was 6 cylinders and rated at 200 hp at 1600 rpm

I understand that there is an SVA-5 in a museum in Connecticut but I am not sure of this

Hope this information will be of some use to you Best regards H M Harkcom Harkcom Aircraft Service Rt 1 Inola Oklahoma

Dear AI In the February issue j R Nielander wrote an in shy

teresting editorial concerning the possibilities in the area of personal certification of antique aircraft by the owner restorer

Without blowing my own horn too loud I have worked with antiquers and others for the last 28 years doing what j R talks about signing off work for non-rated owners A lot of these people are really sharp and most do above average work and should be allowed to cut it on their own somehow

I think the key to this thing is for the FAA to set up a program whereby the interested antiquer could satisfy them that he is qualified to restore and mainshytain his antique This may not be as far away from FAA thinking as one might imagine as there has been talk around for some time at lower levels that the AampE ratings cover too much area for the average mechanic In other words the thinking in some areas of the FAA is that specialized ratings might be needed to have better qualified people in the field where needed If this thinking is still being kicked around in the FAA then the people in the antique field would fit into the thinking already floating around

A specialized rating for antiquers that covered about what was in old manual 18 would not be diffi shycult to qualify for I would favor two ratings along the lines of the AampP If an antiquer did not want to get into the mechanics of engines he could go after an airframe rating only If he wanted to be able to annual his antique then of course he would have to hold both tickets To satisfy the FARs and the inshysurance companies I think the antique rating apshyproach has good merit

I have talked to several antiquers not rated and they all said that they would be happy to work toshyward a limited type rating that would allow them unrestricted labor on their own aircraft They all feel that they should have this opportunity and I concur I have not always been happy to sign off work as an IA due to the fact that there is no such thing as direct supervision even if you are in the same room all the time Also I have seen the FAA just as uneasy mostly because they as a whole are far from qualified to judge most antiques

Well hope this fills a small gap in the ove rall picture If I can be of further help in any way please let me know

Sincerely Bob Younkin 55 Appleby Road Razorback Airport Fayetteville Arkansas 72701 26

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(Dick Souffer phoo)

itting tab A into slot B is no easy task in a rebuild of his size

(Dick 5rouffer ph 00)

The monumental task is nearing comp letion and may be flying when you read this

This musellm and its contents has since burned to the ground

I then said goodbye to J D and spent the next six and a half hours inhaling Vodka martinis on a non stop jet to Chicago

The tri-motor was picked up by semi truck along with a new set of wings Mr Berry had aquired that went with the deal The airplane is being rebuilt in Crvsta Lak~ Wisconsin and should flv this summer Perh rt ps some day J D and I may watch it fly at sClIe antique meet

F-or the record Stinson NC15165 was manufactured under ATC 556 model A serial No 9125 Engines were Lycoming (3) model R-680-5 260 hp each engines serials were Rt 2-1292 Lt 2-1400 ten 2-1290 Number of crew and passengers 9 PCLM

Delivered to original owner February 28 1936 American Airlines Inc 4848 West 63 Street Chicago Illinois

Ship damaged at Washington D C on June 8 1936 when a drunk drove a car into the tail while th e ship was parked near a hanger at the Washington ai rport

On November 2 1939 the total time on thi s aircraft was given as 223403 hours

Sold to Lavery Airways William L Lavery Fairshybanks Alaska April 27 1940

Sold to Raymond I Peterson DBA Ray Peterson Flying Service Anchorage Alaska September 14 1942

Sold to Ray Peterson Flying Service Raymond I Peterson Marie Antoinette Peterson Glen I Dillard Anchorage Alaska April 26 1944

Crashed November 1947 No details given On February 19 1948 so ld to Northern Conshy

so lidated Airlines Inc Box 1439 Anchorage Alaska Remarks Delivered to American Airlines M arch 2 1936

NC Licenses iss ued to expire 3-1-37 3-1-38 3-15-39 and 11-15-40 On 11-14-40 license NC-15165 approved for one year Aircraft disapproved for license on 10-30-42 due to bad original fabric Ship approved for license on 5-15-43 for one year

The next chapter is for Mr J D Berry to write should he wish to do so

For five years now I have sought and acquired what I believe is a complete listing of every serial number of the Stinson A models produced I followed one rumor and found some bones of an A model I believe there are two more in existence in what condition I do not know however I am going to find out Who knows

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WORLD WAR I ERA REPLICA PLANS

Compiled by Leonard Opdycke

15 Crescent Rd Poughkeepsie NY 12601

Reprinted WWI Aeroplanes

FOR YOUR INFORMATION (Abb reviations used below H = H awker-S iddel ey Avishyation Ltd Richmond Road Kingston-upon-Thames KT2 5QS UK (Attn j Crampton Deputy Sales Mgr L50 per set of drawings for anyone aircraft)

W = Wright-Patterson AFB OH 45433 (Attn Verna M Frazier Freedom of Information Manager Adminishyst rati on Office Headquarters Aeronautical Systems Div) (AFSC) Antoinette

4 sheets of the German Albatross-b uilt version drawn by Gabriel-Sales Desk National Museum of Science and Technology 1867 St Laurent Boulevard Ottawa Ontario K1A OM8 Canada

Bellanca 1912 shyComplete set of drawings $4000 - Mike Murphy 4923 West 99 Oak Lawn Illinois 60453

Berchman B-2 Scout (1918) W (Can 482)

Bleriot XI Complete set of drawings instructions $1500 -Mel Miller 2030 Geary Albany Oregon 97321

Complete set in BUILDING AN AEROPLANE by C B Hayward 1912 rep rinted by Kings Box 17646 Nashville Tennessee 37217 ($350)

Bristol F2B A few miscellan eous drawings not enough to build from many structura l photos parts and rigging manuals operating manual - LEO WWI AEROPLANES

Bristol Scout A A xerox copy of the 500 - ser ies of drawings from Frank Barnwells own notebook (not for sale maybe recopy) - LEO WWI AEROPLANES

Bristol Scout D Many 8 x 10 sheets cop ies from orig in al Bristol factory drawings enough to build from (not for sa le maybe recopy) - LEO WWI AEROPLANES

Curtiss JN4 series jN4(Can) 35mm microfilm roll - Ken Hyde RD 1 Warrenton VA 22186

jN4D Ken Hyde (above) from Canadian Aeroplane Company Ltd Can 66 - W Air Force Museum Wright Patterson AFB Dayton OH (not same as W above) 20 sheets 17 x 22 ga and structure from factory drawings - Charles F Schultz 910 Broadfields Drive Louisville KY 40207 23 draWings incomplete but good coverage shyGordon E Codding 4572 W 147 Street Lawnshydale California Rep rinted operating m anual $3 00 - Aviation Publi cat ion s 2036 Ludin gton Avenue Milwaukee Wisconsin

jH4 From Curtiss-Wright Aeroplane and Motor Corp Can 495 - W

Curtiss 0-1 XO-1 0-2 W (Can 301)

Curtiss Pusher 34 x 48 plate showin g co nst ruction of 1910 Curtiss A-frame $1000 Herbert L Kelley 56424 Hand ley Road Yucca Valley CA 92284

Set of drawings developed from orig inal Curtiss prints $2500 Charles F Schu ltz (above)

Co mplete set fOf construction - Mel Miller (above)

Co mplete set in BUILDING AN AEROPLANE Kings (above) - but note 468 for Charles Willards cautionary note o n using these plans

Chanute Hang Glider jack Lambie 115B Merrimac Drive Anaheim California 92807

DeHaviliand 4 Dayton-Wright Aeroplane Corp (DH4 DH4B) shyW (Can 195)

Miscellaneous drawings from AF Museum (above) Fisher Body (DH4) - W (Can 191)

DeHaviliand 99A Few drawings including float models - Colin A Owers Box 241 Quirindi NSW 2343 Australia

Fokker DVII BLUE MAX DVII drawings - Harold Best-Devershyeux 11 Stonehills House Welwyn Garden City Herts UK

11 plates 34 x 48 for 1601180 Mercedes versions $11000 Herbert L Kelley (above)

AF Museum (above) 11 plates 34 x 54 $12100 with raw materials and parts to be available later - Stolp Starduster Corporat ion 4301 Twining Riverside Calif

Fokker DVIII Full set from Platz original sketches for Warner powered reproduction s E D Swearingen 40 Monee Road Park Forest Illinois

AF Museum (above) Dan-San Abbott (in process of entry for Roland DVI below)

Fokker Drl Brochure $200 and full set of working drawings for Warner reproductions Walter W Redfern Route 1 Athol Idaho 83801

10 sheets done towards a complete set each $400 plus spar and rib sets fiber-glass cowls - Ron Sands RD 1 Mertztown PA 19539

Fokker EI 1 plate 22 x 30 1 to 1 for full sca le detail f ly in g model $1000 Herbert L Kelley (above)

Fokker EIII 25 9 x 7 photos of structure of Kensington Science Museum EIII $2500 plus $100 po stage - Ed Brannon 1405 Marcella NE Albuquerque NM 87112

Fokker VI 8 plates 17 x 22 1110 sca le structure developed from photos and historical data (of 44) $2500shyHerbert L Kelley (above)

1 plate 34 x 54 1110 scale for 26 span model $1000 - Herbert L Kelley (above)

Macchi-Hanriot HD1 Drawings $12000 - Chris j Warrilow 141 Chairshyborough Road Hi gh Wycombe Bucks U K

Nieuport 17 Rozendaal drawings - Fred Kom Losy 725 Robin Way North Palm Beach Florid a 33408

Air Force Museum (above) 3 sheets $225 - National Museum of Science and Technology (above)

Nieuport 24 Walt Redford (above)

Nieuport 27 Fred Kom Losy (above) Gordon E Codding (above)

Nieuport 28C1 Air Force Museum (above)

Pfalz Dill Darnell Sitton 1925 N Vermont Avenue 7 Los Angeles CA 90027

Pfalz DXII Set of 30 fine 5 x 7 photos of the EAA Museums DXI I under reconstruction $2000 (a ircraft on permanent loan from National Air and Space Museum) Ben Owen EAA Museum Box 229 Hales Corners WI 53130 ($1500 for EAA members)

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RAF Se5A 32 photos as above $2000 ($1500 to EAA memshybers) - Ben Owen EAA Air Museum (above)

Drawings for 85 scale all-wood reproduction - Replica Plans 953 Kirkmond Crescent Richshymond BC CANADA

Air Force Museum (above) Gordon E Codding (above) Complete set from which RAF Museum ship was rebuilt - Public Records Office Chancery Lane London UK (See Note below also)

Roland DVlab 5 sheets 34 x 44 fully detailed $5000 plus postage $350 (these fine drawings reviewed this issue p2) - Dan-San Abbott 25886 Gettysburg Avenue Hayward CA 94545

Pomilio W Can 66

Sopwith Bl Baby Bulldog Buffalo Camel Condor Cuckoo Dolphin Dove Dragon Gnu Gun Bus Hippo Pup Rainbow Ram Rhino Salamander Snail Snapper Snipe 112 Strutter Swallow Tabloid Triplane

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Sopwith Camel Air Force Museum (above) Gordon E Codding (above) Clayton amp Shuttleworth drawings of F1 Some 2F1 200 drawings for $144 Chris J Warrilow (above)

Sopwith Pup GordonE Codding (above) Air Force Museum (above) 72 drawings 18 x 24 $162 00 - Smithsonian Institution Washington DC

Sopwith Triplane (110 Clerget) Clayton amp Shuttleworth drawings about 100 for $7200 Chris Warrilow (above)

S Wieser Dir Plantetarium Clagary Parks Departshyment Box 2100 Calgary Alberta Canada

Sopwith Miscellaneous Types (SS SSD2 SPGN 150 hp Smith D3 S STS STD D2 DS frS 225 Sunbeam frS 220 hp Seaplane 2FR2 50 Gnome Biplane)

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Sopwith-Kauper Gun Gear H

Spad 7 Air Museum (above) Gordon E Codding (above) Jack Hickey 1659 Willis S St Paul Minn 55705shy20 sheets for $7500

Spad 13 Gordon E Codding (above)

Sperry Messenger W (Can 289)

Standard 11 Air Force Museum (above)

Thomas-Morse S4C Air Force Museum (above) Gordon E Codding (above)

Wright Gliders 4 plates 1899 Kite 17 x 22 1900-01-02 Gliders 110 sca le 34 x 48 total $3500 - Herbert L Kelley (above)

Wright Flyer 1903 Master drawings made for construction of Kitty Hawk Memorial reproduction 21 sheets for $2200 (make check payable to Cooper-Trent) - Louis S Casey Cu rator Aircraft amp Aeronautics National Air amp Space Museum Washington DC 20560)

Notes Complete drawings for display or building the Spandau LMGO-8-15 mig 3 x 6Vz - Ray Hollings 338054 Street San Diego CA 92105

RAE TECH MEMO 4 This catalog is subtitled

The EAA Aviation Museum is now the proud owner

Catalogue of Original Tracings of Aircraft and Engines Designed and Built by the RAE 1911-1918 assembled by Wing Commander NHF Unwin from Public Records Office Chancery L ne London UK Drawings are listed by aircraft type subject of drawing and drawing number any can be bought separately The SE5A set is complete (of RAF SE5A above) Types for which at least some drawings are available

Bristol Scout Bristol F2B Cierva Autogyro DH1-69-10 Hamble Baby Handley-Page 0400

V-1500 Short 225 320 Sopwith 1 Pup Triplane

Camel Snipe Dolphin

RAF BE1-5 7-1012 RAF CE1 RAF FE1-9 12 RAF NE1 RAF HAM I RAF Hydro-Aeroplane 17 RAF HRE 2 RAF RE1 3 5-9 RAF BS1 RAF SE1 2 4 4a 5 5a RAF TE1

EAAs Aviation Museum has built a replica of its own the Ryan NX-211 Spirit of SI Louis its also sponsored construction of this replica Wright Flyer at the Blackshyhawk Technical Institute in janesville Wisconsin

of this replica Fokker DR-I Triplane which was built and shydonated by Robert H Fergus of Columbus Ohio The white paint scheme on this replica was used by Lt Hans Weiss who flew with von Richtoffen

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planes fighters up through transportw Brad Thomas JrNotice of Annual Business Meeting C-54sPilot Mountain North Carolina Today he holds a commercial licenseand Manufacturer with single and multi-engine land and Born in High Point North CarolinaElection of Officers and Directors instrument ratings and remains actively

Brad was educated at McCallie School flying with his Gyrocopter and VW powshyNotice is hereby given that an annual business Chattanooga Tennessee MIT Camshy ered Scamp both built by him a Moonshy

meeting of the members of the EAA AntiqueClassic bridge Massachusetts and High Point ey for travel and a D-17R Staggerwing Division will be held on Saturday August 5 1978 at College His flying career began at the He is currently Secretary of the Antique

age of 16 when he soloed and obtained1030 AM (Central Daylight Time) at the 26th Anshy Classic Division of EAA Oshkosh Conshynual Convention of the Experimental Aircraft Associashy his private license in 1938 The advent vention Classic Awards Chairman and tion Inc Wittman Field Oshkosh Wisconsin of World War II encouraged his enlistshy Chief Judge Secretary and Treasurer

Notice is hereby further given that the annual ment in the Army Air Corps as a pilot of EAA Chapter 8 Greensboro N C election of officers and directors of the EAA Antique He graduated from British Flying Trainshy Vice-President of EAA Antique ChapshyClassic Division will be conducted by ballot disshy ing School No5 Clewiston Florida with ter 3 and a member of their executive tributed to the members along with this June issue of both Air Corps and RAF wings was transshy committee Br-ad and his wife Ferne The Vintage Airplane Said ballot must be returned ferred to the 7th Ferry Group Air Transshy have five children of which one is an properly marked to the Ballot Tally Committee EAA port Command Great Falls Montana active oilot AntiqueClassic Division Box 229 Hales Corners where he ferried most types of Air Corps Wisconsin 53130 and received no later than August 3 1978

Ronald Fritz Chairman Nominating Committee

W Brad Thomas Jr Secretary the acquisition of his private pilot li shyEAA AntiqueClassic Division cense he immediately bought and reshy

stored his first airplane a 1946 Cessna AI Kelch 140 N72323 which had been used as Mequon Wisconsin a trainer at South Dayton Airport In

Manufacturer1953 he rebuilt and restored 1946 Cessna AI -started his own company in 1950 140 N73018 and flew it during the reshy

mainder of 1953 and 1954 During this The Kelch Corp which is now a conshysame period J R bought an extensively glomerate of 5 small manufacturing comshydamaged 1949 Cessna 170A N9730A and panies in the industrial plastic field completely rebuilt and restored it inshy AI s interest in airplanes goes back cluding splicing the parts of two fuseshy to his childhood in the 1920s when he

would sit on his fathers lap and fly iniages together to make one With the completion of the Cessna his uncles Jenny whenever the Jenny

170A in early 1955 he flew to Florida came to town barnstorming where he was hired as an AampP by the He is a lifetime member of EAA and

local Cessna distributor Sunny South AAA He was president of the WisconshyAircraft Service Later that same year sin Chapter of AAA for two terms and he joined Pan American World Airways a director of AntiqueClassic Division as a co-pilot flying Convair 240s Since of EAA for two terms He served as edishythen he has flown Douglas DC-4 6 7C tor of The Vintage Airplane magazine from

January 1976 until February 1978 8 Boeing 707 and 720 aircraft Besides J R Nielander Jr He currently owns and flies a 1939 his ATR and mechanic tickets he also Fort Lauderdale FL Piper J3 Cub which he completely re-Pan Am Pilot J R was elected vice-president of the

holds a flight navigator license stored in 1968 and a 1939 Franklin Sport

By the time he learned to fly at Lakeshy AntiqueClassic Division at its organizashy biplane which he restored in 1969 A wood Airpark Mount Healthy Ohio tional meeting on November 6 1971 1931 Travel Air 12Q will be flying this

summer and two American Eaglets and in 1951 J R had already completed He held that office until he was elected five years of university study as well president by the Board of Directors at an E2 Cub are his current restoration as one year of graduate school With their meeting on February 5 1976 projects

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Morton W Lester Martinsville Virginia Builder-Developer and Real Estate Investor

Morton is President of The Lester Corshyporation and Vice-President of Motor Imports Inc He is Executive Vice-Presishydent of the Virginia Aeronautical Hisshytorical Society and a board member of several other civic governmental busishyness and humanitarian organizations Morton was soloed by his father at the age of 10 in a Piper Cub He currently owns several prototype antiques such as the Ryan SCW Davis Low Wing Aeronca and Johnson Rocket His curshyrent ship is a civilian Howard DGA-15P He also owns a rare Travel Air 6000B which is currently undergoing restorashytion under the careful expertise of his cousin Pete Covington Morton is a Trustee of the EAA Air Museum Foundashytion and a past chairman of the Classic Judging Team of Oshkosh He is past president and current member of the executive committee of EAA Chapter 395 (NC Sc amp Va Antique Airplane Foundation) Morton and his wife Marshygaret have three children

M C Kelly Viets Stilwell Kansas Consulting Engineer Self-Employed

Kelly entered the consulting engineer field in 1938 and spent World War II designing airports and base facilities for the U S government He started his own firm Viets Consulting Engishyneers in 1954 He is a registered proshyfessional engineer and holds membershyship in numerous professional societies Kelly spent a lot of his younger days around Kansas City Municipal and Fairshyfax airports seeing Benny Howards Ike make its first flights the Travel Air Mystery Ship on the way to Cleveshyland all the early airliners etc He startshyed flight instruction in 1938 in a 55 hp Porterfield and finally got his ticket on the GI Bill in 1946 Kelly and his wife Edna own an Ercoupe and the two of them started and manage the Internashytional Ercoupe Association Their monthshyly newsletter goes out to over 550 Ershycoupe enthusiasts around the world Kelly also owns and is restoring the 14shy12 Bellanca that was used as the protoshytype for the 14-13 series He is a Director of EAAs Antique-Classic Division Kelly and Edna have 3 children

Art Morgan Milwaukee Wisconsin Oster Service Division

Art Morgan began flying in 1961 and received his private license in 1962 In 1965 he went on to get his commercial rating

He has been a member of EAA since 1962 and was parking airplanes at Rockshyford Illinois

Art was one of the first to start buildshying a KR-1 and although he did not complete his project he was instrumenshytal in the completion of two of the little birds

In 1974 he and his wife Kate purchased a 1939 Luscombe 8-C which he promptly rebuilt After two years of flying the Lusshycombe Art and several friends organshyized the American Luscombe Club

Art has served the EAA as a museum volunteer for several years as Classic parking chairman at Oshkosh and also as Antique-Classic parking chairman

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I Pioneer Northwest pilot Eclith Fol tz lVel 1 neltive of Dallas maiden name - 1agali She learned to I) in Portlaml Oregon Fel)(uar) of l)l8

l IJdrntormecl a long-wing Edglerock (OX-5) middotkCfuirec License 5nOO and lVas th e fifth US wOlllan to ohtain the Transport rlIing

J Barnstorming the Northwest - Pilot Greenwood in a Ryan Brougham and Edith in the OX-5 Eaglerock

4 Edith placed second in the light-plane division of the first Nashytional Womens Air Derby 1929 Santa Monica to Cleveland flying an Alexander Eaglerock Bullet (Kinner engine) Charter member of the 99s

5 May 1930 - Edith christening The Romer new five-passenger airplane manufactured by the National Aircraft Corp Beavershyton Oregon

Vintag The Flying life

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1 I Edith Stearns in structed Naval and Kingsv ille TX after WWII with Pauline Glasson Decease

Album m es of Edith Foltz Stearns ~ I enn Bu ff ington on of Co rp us Chr isti Texas fo r ( w ith us - also to I B Decker the photos)

ts in ins trum ent flying at Corpus Christi eel the 52 and 53 Powder Puff Derbies 956 ending a brillidnt flying career

Edith served as th e first Northwest Section Governor of the 99s - and she also w as Oregon Governor of the National Aeronautics Assn in the ea rl y ]Os She flew a Kinner Bird in the 3 7 and 32 derbies both from Sa nta Monica to Cleveland (4th in 3 7 and 2nd in 32 in th e women s division)

7 Edith and her son Richard Foltz age 6 in 793 7 a t Portland Oregon

8 7932 a t Cleveland Na tiona l Air Races (L to R) Vio la Gentry G ladys ODonn ell Florence Klingensmith Frank Phillips Edith Foltz Stearns and Frances Marsalis taken with Phillips Woolshyaroc Trophy Edith flew th e Bird to 2nd place in the Amelia Earhart Trophy Race (pylons) 1932 Klingesmith was first in a Monoco upe

9 Sk irts ~a flyin Edith Foltz Stea rns models one or her trade-marked FoIZLIp flying lOgs which eas il y converted to st reet wear - 7 932

I O Edith managed a new feeder airl in e a t Portshyland dnd taught prim ary CPT at Salem prior to WWII - se rved in En g land as a Firs t Officer in the Air Tran sport Aux iliary here in uniform

(Fred Chew photo)

Bills Cessna 140 slips through a quick left turn in a test of-rhe new splas h rails

A Harbor for Classics By David Gustafson Editor

Some fo lks would argue that Bali Hi is a mythical Island out in the South Pacific where the best in life is an everyday affair There are a few peoplehowshyever who would be inclined to suggest that the protoshytype model for Bali Hi can be found on the Southshyeast corner of Stafford Pond in Westport Masshysachusetts Thats where Bill Walsh lives What makes it special Well hes got several acres of land in the secluded inlet of a clear lake He doesn t have palm trees though his Norwegian pines give the same effect on a warm and breezy summer night To improve the natural scene Bill put in a dock laid down some railroad track for a movable ramp that can be winched right into the hangar he erected 200

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feet from the water Naturally there has to be someshything to place in the hangar so Bills lined the walls with tools and bending brakes The space thats left is reserved for his Cessna 140 Floatplane and the Aeronca Sedan hes rebuilding so he can be a twoshyfloatplane family

The Cessna 140 was built in 1948 and sent directly from Wichita to Sea Wings of Connecticut for conshyversion to floats It was then sold with floats and wheels With the stock Continental 85 horsepower engine the plane was marginal as a hot day aquatic performer Getting off the surf with two husky adults when its over 75 degrees out is a groaning process Some of the problem relates to the high speed airshy

foil that works nicely in cruise but does little to generate the kind of take-off lift you get in someshything like a Cub or Champ Even as a ground plane the Cessna requires a long take-off roll

Once airborne however the 140 levels off to a respectable 90 mph with a corkscrew that measures a wide 76 x 38 Bill s hoping to swap the C-85 someday for an 0-200 so he can take up so me of his fat friends in the mint julip season

As fa r as skidding around the pond Bill reports theres very little difference between the 140 and comshyparably sized float planes Of course the take-off runs lon ge r but once airborne (40-45 mph ) it climb s well and flies with much greater stability than a

land model The floats give it a big plane feeling says Bill

Stalls with a floating 140 are similar to the land configuration and intentional spins are strictly verbotten

When Bill bought the plane in 1963 it was on the floats but he couldnt get it off the water The floats leaked Experimentation revealed that the keel opened up on a take-off run so they were replaced Later he added spray rails which eliminated the center wake and brought the plane up onto the step quicker

In the wintertime the floats are replaced with skis and Bill goes out to race the ice boats Between

he floats and the skis the wheels havent been on the 140 for several years now When he wants to bounce around a paved runway he heads off to Fall River Airport haul s out a 170-B (of which he owns 1115th) and renews his acquaintance with toe brakes and squealing rubber

Like a growing number of people in EAA Bill divides his time between flying one project and tinkershying with another Hes lucky enough to have an Aeronca 15 AC Sedan as that other project He picked it up a couple years ago at a price that would take the wind out of some people Ask anyone who knows Bill or his close friend Fred Chew and theyll tell you that those two guys deserve a special suit that says SUPER-SCROUNGERS across the chest They have uncanny talents at picking up materials for nothing or next to it More than once in recent history theyve plucked chicken feathers out of an old Continental or Lycoming that was retrieved from the dark corner of a barn for around $100 (Actually Bills just finished a two-year term as President of EAA Chapter 51 in Middletown Rhode Island and Freds still the Chapter Designee - they have both done an excellent job)

When the opportunity arose they dickered and diddled and sang the song of a snake charmer until they could come home with a smile and that particular Sedan

Naturally the plane needed a little work The previous owner had argued with a pine tree The tree not only won but took the left wing as a prize The Aeronca was apparently so shocked by the action that it pulled back and stood up on the right wing as if to say I beg your pardon When things got back to level the right tip was mashed

How many times do you suppose guys like Bill and Fred have set out to unbend a wing but wound

(Fred Chew photo)

Off and flying the 140 is a marginal performer on hot days with a full load

(Fred Chew photo)

This Cessna 140 has been a regular feature in Bills back- yard for 15 years

up rebuilding the entire machine You can add their names to the list

One thing Bill quickly points out is that he and Fred are not engaged in a full-scale down-to-theshylast-screw restoration project Nope When it flies again i t will still be clearly recognizable as an Aeronca Sedan but there are some (approved ) changes in store Most obvious is the addition of brackets for float struts A presto-change-o routine with a few bolts will convert the plane from land to sea or vice versa

Conveniently it so happened that the greatest crash damage occurred on the left side Fred happily ripped out the bent tubes bent a few new ones and followed the STC cookbook for installing a left side door that opens upwards to the wing Its an approved mod for a seaplane configuration

(David Gustafson photo) Progress in the rebuild ing effort is evi shydent in this shot o f th e Sedan th e left wing attachment has been repaired the fusel age has been blas ted and primed the new left door frame is complete and a new headlin er s being installed

(Fred Chew photo) after abrupt removshy

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Each of the large metal wings originally contained 20 gallon rubber gas bladders (say that three times) and both leaked after the crash Replacement cost was $700 apiece so the wing panels were torn off and Fred bent up a couple of metal tanks that are larger than the originals Between the tanks and the twisted metal from the crash Fred figures hes disshymantled at least 80 per cent of the wings and replaced 50 per cent of the total materials Included are a number of ribs shaped by hand on wooden formers which were also hand etched from the pieces bound for the junk heap That translates into a lot of aluminum the wing span is 376 with a chord in excess of 5 feet which produces 200 square feet of wing area In the end Fred will be able to reproduce any curved part of the Sedans wing and yes he plans to come up with quotes for others needing help (write Fred Chew 158 Meridian Street Fall River Massach usetts 02720)

With the Clark Y airfoil and a Continental 145 horsepower engine the Sedan leaps off the ground almost as fast as a two-place Cub When you turn it into a Seadan by adding a couple EDO 2000s it breaks surf suction with a simple hop skip and a slurping leap The only drawback is that with the 2000s you cant hop unless there are only two people on board With four people and full tanks the floats become submarines As a result the two resourceful metal benders who plan to build their own floats are giving serious thought to making something bigshyger

(David Gustafson photo)

Detail of the float attachment fitting

Bills Aeronca was built in 1948 and like most classics its alread~ changed hands a few times Dr Paul Nussbaum was the first to drop mud on the carpets in 49 John Ru sh moved it from Missouri to Ohio ten years later After another decade a pair of partners in Pennsylvania flew it for awhile and then left it with another partnership in New York Gerry Broskin and Harris Gordon revamped the panel and went IFR Soon after that it became the answer to a dream for Ron and Diane Rissone in Randolph Massachusetts But then there was this pine tree That brings the odyssey of N1365H to Bill Walsh hangar and private seaplane base

The next time Bills Sedan sees another runway itll obviously be sporting rebuilt wings and new float brackets in addition there ll be a new windshield all new woodwork new ceconite new headliner new used back seats (from a Tri-Pacer yet) a new panel (still IFR) and discussion has already started about a total engine overhaul

Theres one other new item in the works for the Sedan When its checked out on its wheels again there ll be a streamlined gas tank nestled in the gear bay You see Bill and Fred have promised themselves this extended tour of South America once they finish

Then the Sedan will bob in the harbor beside the Cessna and Bill can wrestle with the question which one do I fly today

(David Gustafson photo)

Fred Chew holds up the new tip hes built for the right wing

(David Gustafson photo)

Bill Walsh displys the seaplane door thats being installed on the left side of th e Sedan

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Restoration Tips a photo essay provided by

Fred Chew 158 Meridian St

Fall River Mass 02720

(Note Freds kept an exce llent photo record of the process of rebuilding the wings for Bill Walshs Aeronca Sedan It gives a good idea of how to do it and how much works involved)

No2 - Teardown reveals the damage No4 - Line up new to old

No 1 - Last step before rebuilding

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Aeronca Sedan spar repair 7976 (Right wing) No5 - Extrusion repair

No8 - Removing old section No 10 - Repair of extrusion spar No6 - Horizontal-line up

No7 - New piece made ready for hole flare No9 - Ready for spar extrusion repair No 17 - New piece in place for riveting

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No 12 - Nose rib in place No 15 - Form to fit inside of old damaged spar tip rib NO 78 - Hand form mg

No 73 - C1eco nose rib to spa r No 16 - 032 alclad ready to be clamped in form No 79 - Flanging spar tip

No 74 - Ready to repair rear spar No 77 - Form ready for hand bending jig for lightening holes No 20 - More of same 22

No 27 - Trim off excess flange No 24 - Test fit to spar No 27 - 032 alclad 2024 TJ

No 22 - Trim square to form No 25 - Fly cutting lightening holes No 28 - Spar tip ready for installation

No 23 - Remove from form No 26 - Flanging No 29 - Clecos test line up 23

The Babv Cessna

It was born in Wichita Kansas at the Cessna fac-shytory in 1929 Because of the stock market slump the Airplane manufacturing business fell off drasshytically To try and keep the plant in operation Eldon Cessna decided to design and build a light airplane that could be sold at a low price As a result the EC-1 was developed It was powered with a 25 hp Cleone engine

At the time I was enrolled at the Braley School of Flying which was located directly across the road to the east of the Cessna field I spent much of my spare time at the field watching the men work on and fly the Baby Cessna It was a fascinating little airplane

Early last year I was looking for a suitable airshyplane to model for a C02 Powered model airplane contest I remembered the Baby Cessna and thought it would be just what I wanted

In doing research for drawings and photos I found that photos of both the EC-1 and the EC-2 were available but no drawings I had a photo of the EC-1 that I had taken with my Brownie box camera The EC-2 looked cleaner with its design refinements and the Aeronca E-107 engine

I met Eldon Cessna at-an OX5 get-to-gether at the Santa Paula Airport and we discussed the EC-2 at length He informed me that plans had never been published The EC-2 (cn 253 N405W) was the last Baby Cessna built

From the photos and from memory of being around the Baby Cessna these plans for a model were drawn Imagine what a delightful fun airplane it would be for a homebuilt replica project today These specifications appeared in the 1930 issue of Air Age magazine

Baby Cessna EC-2 (cn253 N405W) 30 hp Aeronca E-707A

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Span 34 ft 11 in Wing area 163 sq ft Length overall 20 ft 4 in Height overall bull 5 ft 6 in Weights

Empty 470 Ibs Gross 925 Ibs

Gasoline capacity 8 gal Oil capacity 34 gal Power (Aeronca E-107A) 30 hp

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High speed 86 mph Cruising speed 70 mph Stalling speed 38 mph Climb first minute 740 ft Ceiling (service) 15000 ft Cruising range 200 miles

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1 I~rlII~llS Dear Sir

I am trying to get information on an aircraft that was built during the 20s called the Golden Eagle Chief It was a parasol wing powered by a radial engine type unshyknown Only about seven were built If any of your Antique classic division members know anything about this aircraft I would like to get in touch with them

I would like to take this opportunity to express what an outstanding organization I think the EAA is Ive only been a member for three years and only regret the years before I joined SPORT AVIATION is one of the best publications that I have ever read I have been to Oshkosh twice and to quite a few local fly-ins including Sun N Fun and have never seen anything more organized or better run I am looking forward to Oshkosh 78 and to continued membership in a fine organization

Sincerely james E Spradley (EAA 108947) PO Box 146 Rutledge Alabama 36071

Dear Mr Nielander Your editorial in the February issue of The Vinshy

tage Airplane is the best expression of the question of who is really qualified to maintain antique and classic aircraft (this applies equally well to some curshyrent aircraft such as the Bellanca Viking etc)

I submit the following recommendation as a way to offset some of the difficulties expressed in your excellent editorial to wit

The FAA should grant an A and E (or P) mechanics license to an individual who meets the following qualifications

(1) Passes three written examinations now required for the rating

(2) Passes the practical examination currently reshyquired

(3) Can show that he has actually done the major portion of the work in the restoration of an antique or classic airplane

You will note that the difference between these requirements and the current FAR part 65 requireshyments is the modification of sec 6577 which relates to on-the-job or schooling experience

From my own experience in restoring three airshyplanes (Luscombe Stinson Reliant Beechcraft B17L) I know that the amount of honest-to-God airplane and engine work in the usual restoration project is in exshycess of the stuff that the students in the approved

mechanic schools get Moreover during the 30 months practical experience referred to in FAR 6577 a lot of that time is spent just removing cowlings cleanshying sparkplugs changing tires sweeping floors pumpshying gas and plowing snow I guess what Im trying to do is build a case which shows that the antique classic restorer or homebuilder knows just as much about airplanes in general as does the individual who qualifies under the current provisions of FAR sec 6577

Very truly yours Thomas R Rench 1601 Circlewood Drive Racine Wisconsin 53402

Dear AI Perhaps I can shed a little light on the centershy

fold of the February issue of The Vintage Airplane The two planes pictured in the center of the page

are Top picture Wright Martin (Loening) M-8 Botshytom picture is an Ansaldo SVA-5 or SVA-9

The Loen ing was manufactured by the Wright Marshytin Corp and was built in 1921-1922 The factory deSignation was M-8

The Army Air Service designation was PW-2 PWshy2A and PW-2B Two of the PW-2 model were built in 1921 Gross weight was 2788 Ibs span 39 8 length 24 2 Ten of the PW-2A model were ordered by the Air Service but the order was cancelled after four were built in 1922 Gross weight was 2799 Ibs span 39 9 length 26 1

The PW2B was evaluated in 1922 but was never built Gross weight was to be 2976 Ibs span 34 1 length 23 4

PW-2 and PW-2A were powered by the Wright Martin H of 320 hp which was a Hisso built under license The PW2-B was to be powered by a 350 hp Packard engine

The Ansaldo can be either an SVA-5 or SVA-9 as the front view doesnt show whether it is a two place or single place The SVA-5 was single place while the SVA-9 was two place Both were powered by the Breda SPA-6A engine which was 6 cylinders and rated at 200 hp at 1600 rpm

I understand that there is an SVA-5 in a museum in Connecticut but I am not sure of this

Hope this information will be of some use to you Best regards H M Harkcom Harkcom Aircraft Service Rt 1 Inola Oklahoma

Dear AI In the February issue j R Nielander wrote an in shy

teresting editorial concerning the possibilities in the area of personal certification of antique aircraft by the owner restorer

Without blowing my own horn too loud I have worked with antiquers and others for the last 28 years doing what j R talks about signing off work for non-rated owners A lot of these people are really sharp and most do above average work and should be allowed to cut it on their own somehow

I think the key to this thing is for the FAA to set up a program whereby the interested antiquer could satisfy them that he is qualified to restore and mainshytain his antique This may not be as far away from FAA thinking as one might imagine as there has been talk around for some time at lower levels that the AampE ratings cover too much area for the average mechanic In other words the thinking in some areas of the FAA is that specialized ratings might be needed to have better qualified people in the field where needed If this thinking is still being kicked around in the FAA then the people in the antique field would fit into the thinking already floating around

A specialized rating for antiquers that covered about what was in old manual 18 would not be diffi shycult to qualify for I would favor two ratings along the lines of the AampP If an antiquer did not want to get into the mechanics of engines he could go after an airframe rating only If he wanted to be able to annual his antique then of course he would have to hold both tickets To satisfy the FARs and the inshysurance companies I think the antique rating apshyproach has good merit

I have talked to several antiquers not rated and they all said that they would be happy to work toshyward a limited type rating that would allow them unrestricted labor on their own aircraft They all feel that they should have this opportunity and I concur I have not always been happy to sign off work as an IA due to the fact that there is no such thing as direct supervision even if you are in the same room all the time Also I have seen the FAA just as uneasy mostly because they as a whole are far from qualified to judge most antiques

Well hope this fills a small gap in the ove rall picture If I can be of further help in any way please let me know

Sincerely Bob Younkin 55 Appleby Road Razorback Airport Fayetteville Arkansas 72701 26

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WORLD WAR I ERA REPLICA PLANS

Compiled by Leonard Opdycke

15 Crescent Rd Poughkeepsie NY 12601

Reprinted WWI Aeroplanes

FOR YOUR INFORMATION (Abb reviations used below H = H awker-S iddel ey Avishyation Ltd Richmond Road Kingston-upon-Thames KT2 5QS UK (Attn j Crampton Deputy Sales Mgr L50 per set of drawings for anyone aircraft)

W = Wright-Patterson AFB OH 45433 (Attn Verna M Frazier Freedom of Information Manager Adminishyst rati on Office Headquarters Aeronautical Systems Div) (AFSC) Antoinette

4 sheets of the German Albatross-b uilt version drawn by Gabriel-Sales Desk National Museum of Science and Technology 1867 St Laurent Boulevard Ottawa Ontario K1A OM8 Canada

Bellanca 1912 shyComplete set of drawings $4000 - Mike Murphy 4923 West 99 Oak Lawn Illinois 60453

Berchman B-2 Scout (1918) W (Can 482)

Bleriot XI Complete set of drawings instructions $1500 -Mel Miller 2030 Geary Albany Oregon 97321

Complete set in BUILDING AN AEROPLANE by C B Hayward 1912 rep rinted by Kings Box 17646 Nashville Tennessee 37217 ($350)

Bristol F2B A few miscellan eous drawings not enough to build from many structura l photos parts and rigging manuals operating manual - LEO WWI AEROPLANES

Bristol Scout A A xerox copy of the 500 - ser ies of drawings from Frank Barnwells own notebook (not for sale maybe recopy) - LEO WWI AEROPLANES

Bristol Scout D Many 8 x 10 sheets cop ies from orig in al Bristol factory drawings enough to build from (not for sa le maybe recopy) - LEO WWI AEROPLANES

Curtiss JN4 series jN4(Can) 35mm microfilm roll - Ken Hyde RD 1 Warrenton VA 22186

jN4D Ken Hyde (above) from Canadian Aeroplane Company Ltd Can 66 - W Air Force Museum Wright Patterson AFB Dayton OH (not same as W above) 20 sheets 17 x 22 ga and structure from factory drawings - Charles F Schultz 910 Broadfields Drive Louisville KY 40207 23 draWings incomplete but good coverage shyGordon E Codding 4572 W 147 Street Lawnshydale California Rep rinted operating m anual $3 00 - Aviation Publi cat ion s 2036 Ludin gton Avenue Milwaukee Wisconsin

jH4 From Curtiss-Wright Aeroplane and Motor Corp Can 495 - W

Curtiss 0-1 XO-1 0-2 W (Can 301)

Curtiss Pusher 34 x 48 plate showin g co nst ruction of 1910 Curtiss A-frame $1000 Herbert L Kelley 56424 Hand ley Road Yucca Valley CA 92284

Set of drawings developed from orig inal Curtiss prints $2500 Charles F Schu ltz (above)

Co mplete set fOf construction - Mel Miller (above)

Co mplete set in BUILDING AN AEROPLANE Kings (above) - but note 468 for Charles Willards cautionary note o n using these plans

Chanute Hang Glider jack Lambie 115B Merrimac Drive Anaheim California 92807

DeHaviliand 4 Dayton-Wright Aeroplane Corp (DH4 DH4B) shyW (Can 195)

Miscellaneous drawings from AF Museum (above) Fisher Body (DH4) - W (Can 191)

DeHaviliand 99A Few drawings including float models - Colin A Owers Box 241 Quirindi NSW 2343 Australia

Fokker DVII BLUE MAX DVII drawings - Harold Best-Devershyeux 11 Stonehills House Welwyn Garden City Herts UK

11 plates 34 x 48 for 1601180 Mercedes versions $11000 Herbert L Kelley (above)

AF Museum (above) 11 plates 34 x 54 $12100 with raw materials and parts to be available later - Stolp Starduster Corporat ion 4301 Twining Riverside Calif

Fokker DVIII Full set from Platz original sketches for Warner powered reproduction s E D Swearingen 40 Monee Road Park Forest Illinois

AF Museum (above) Dan-San Abbott (in process of entry for Roland DVI below)

Fokker Drl Brochure $200 and full set of working drawings for Warner reproductions Walter W Redfern Route 1 Athol Idaho 83801

10 sheets done towards a complete set each $400 plus spar and rib sets fiber-glass cowls - Ron Sands RD 1 Mertztown PA 19539

Fokker EI 1 plate 22 x 30 1 to 1 for full sca le detail f ly in g model $1000 Herbert L Kelley (above)

Fokker EIII 25 9 x 7 photos of structure of Kensington Science Museum EIII $2500 plus $100 po stage - Ed Brannon 1405 Marcella NE Albuquerque NM 87112

Fokker VI 8 plates 17 x 22 1110 sca le structure developed from photos and historical data (of 44) $2500shyHerbert L Kelley (above)

1 plate 34 x 54 1110 scale for 26 span model $1000 - Herbert L Kelley (above)

Macchi-Hanriot HD1 Drawings $12000 - Chris j Warrilow 141 Chairshyborough Road Hi gh Wycombe Bucks U K

Nieuport 17 Rozendaal drawings - Fred Kom Losy 725 Robin Way North Palm Beach Florid a 33408

Air Force Museum (above) 3 sheets $225 - National Museum of Science and Technology (above)

Nieuport 24 Walt Redford (above)

Nieuport 27 Fred Kom Losy (above) Gordon E Codding (above)

Nieuport 28C1 Air Force Museum (above)

Pfalz Dill Darnell Sitton 1925 N Vermont Avenue 7 Los Angeles CA 90027

Pfalz DXII Set of 30 fine 5 x 7 photos of the EAA Museums DXI I under reconstruction $2000 (a ircraft on permanent loan from National Air and Space Museum) Ben Owen EAA Museum Box 229 Hales Corners WI 53130 ($1500 for EAA members)

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RAF Se5A 32 photos as above $2000 ($1500 to EAA memshybers) - Ben Owen EAA Air Museum (above)

Drawings for 85 scale all-wood reproduction - Replica Plans 953 Kirkmond Crescent Richshymond BC CANADA

Air Force Museum (above) Gordon E Codding (above) Complete set from which RAF Museum ship was rebuilt - Public Records Office Chancery Lane London UK (See Note below also)

Roland DVlab 5 sheets 34 x 44 fully detailed $5000 plus postage $350 (these fine drawings reviewed this issue p2) - Dan-San Abbott 25886 Gettysburg Avenue Hayward CA 94545

Pomilio W Can 66

Sopwith Bl Baby Bulldog Buffalo Camel Condor Cuckoo Dolphin Dove Dragon Gnu Gun Bus Hippo Pup Rainbow Ram Rhino Salamander Snail Snapper Snipe 112 Strutter Swallow Tabloid Triplane

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Sopwith Camel Air Force Museum (above) Gordon E Codding (above) Clayton amp Shuttleworth drawings of F1 Some 2F1 200 drawings for $144 Chris J Warrilow (above)

Sopwith Pup GordonE Codding (above) Air Force Museum (above) 72 drawings 18 x 24 $162 00 - Smithsonian Institution Washington DC

Sopwith Triplane (110 Clerget) Clayton amp Shuttleworth drawings about 100 for $7200 Chris Warrilow (above)

S Wieser Dir Plantetarium Clagary Parks Departshyment Box 2100 Calgary Alberta Canada

Sopwith Miscellaneous Types (SS SSD2 SPGN 150 hp Smith D3 S STS STD D2 DS frS 225 Sunbeam frS 220 hp Seaplane 2FR2 50 Gnome Biplane)

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Sopwith-Kauper Gun Gear H

Spad 7 Air Museum (above) Gordon E Codding (above) Jack Hickey 1659 Willis S St Paul Minn 55705shy20 sheets for $7500

Spad 13 Gordon E Codding (above)

Sperry Messenger W (Can 289)

Standard 11 Air Force Museum (above)

Thomas-Morse S4C Air Force Museum (above) Gordon E Codding (above)

Wright Gliders 4 plates 1899 Kite 17 x 22 1900-01-02 Gliders 110 sca le 34 x 48 total $3500 - Herbert L Kelley (above)

Wright Flyer 1903 Master drawings made for construction of Kitty Hawk Memorial reproduction 21 sheets for $2200 (make check payable to Cooper-Trent) - Louis S Casey Cu rator Aircraft amp Aeronautics National Air amp Space Museum Washington DC 20560)

Notes Complete drawings for display or building the Spandau LMGO-8-15 mig 3 x 6Vz - Ray Hollings 338054 Street San Diego CA 92105

RAE TECH MEMO 4 This catalog is subtitled

The EAA Aviation Museum is now the proud owner

Catalogue of Original Tracings of Aircraft and Engines Designed and Built by the RAE 1911-1918 assembled by Wing Commander NHF Unwin from Public Records Office Chancery L ne London UK Drawings are listed by aircraft type subject of drawing and drawing number any can be bought separately The SE5A set is complete (of RAF SE5A above) Types for which at least some drawings are available

Bristol Scout Bristol F2B Cierva Autogyro DH1-69-10 Hamble Baby Handley-Page 0400

V-1500 Short 225 320 Sopwith 1 Pup Triplane

Camel Snipe Dolphin

RAF BE1-5 7-1012 RAF CE1 RAF FE1-9 12 RAF NE1 RAF HAM I RAF Hydro-Aeroplane 17 RAF HRE 2 RAF RE1 3 5-9 RAF BS1 RAF SE1 2 4 4a 5 5a RAF TE1

EAAs Aviation Museum has built a replica of its own the Ryan NX-211 Spirit of SI Louis its also sponsored construction of this replica Wright Flyer at the Blackshyhawk Technical Institute in janesville Wisconsin

of this replica Fokker DR-I Triplane which was built and shydonated by Robert H Fergus of Columbus Ohio The white paint scheme on this replica was used by Lt Hans Weiss who flew with von Richtoffen

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planes fighters up through transportw Brad Thomas JrNotice of Annual Business Meeting C-54sPilot Mountain North Carolina Today he holds a commercial licenseand Manufacturer with single and multi-engine land and Born in High Point North CarolinaElection of Officers and Directors instrument ratings and remains actively

Brad was educated at McCallie School flying with his Gyrocopter and VW powshyNotice is hereby given that an annual business Chattanooga Tennessee MIT Camshy ered Scamp both built by him a Moonshy

meeting of the members of the EAA AntiqueClassic bridge Massachusetts and High Point ey for travel and a D-17R Staggerwing Division will be held on Saturday August 5 1978 at College His flying career began at the He is currently Secretary of the Antique

age of 16 when he soloed and obtained1030 AM (Central Daylight Time) at the 26th Anshy Classic Division of EAA Oshkosh Conshynual Convention of the Experimental Aircraft Associashy his private license in 1938 The advent vention Classic Awards Chairman and tion Inc Wittman Field Oshkosh Wisconsin of World War II encouraged his enlistshy Chief Judge Secretary and Treasurer

Notice is hereby further given that the annual ment in the Army Air Corps as a pilot of EAA Chapter 8 Greensboro N C election of officers and directors of the EAA Antique He graduated from British Flying Trainshy Vice-President of EAA Antique ChapshyClassic Division will be conducted by ballot disshy ing School No5 Clewiston Florida with ter 3 and a member of their executive tributed to the members along with this June issue of both Air Corps and RAF wings was transshy committee Br-ad and his wife Ferne The Vintage Airplane Said ballot must be returned ferred to the 7th Ferry Group Air Transshy have five children of which one is an properly marked to the Ballot Tally Committee EAA port Command Great Falls Montana active oilot AntiqueClassic Division Box 229 Hales Corners where he ferried most types of Air Corps Wisconsin 53130 and received no later than August 3 1978

Ronald Fritz Chairman Nominating Committee

W Brad Thomas Jr Secretary the acquisition of his private pilot li shyEAA AntiqueClassic Division cense he immediately bought and reshy

stored his first airplane a 1946 Cessna AI Kelch 140 N72323 which had been used as Mequon Wisconsin a trainer at South Dayton Airport In

Manufacturer1953 he rebuilt and restored 1946 Cessna AI -started his own company in 1950 140 N73018 and flew it during the reshy

mainder of 1953 and 1954 During this The Kelch Corp which is now a conshysame period J R bought an extensively glomerate of 5 small manufacturing comshydamaged 1949 Cessna 170A N9730A and panies in the industrial plastic field completely rebuilt and restored it inshy AI s interest in airplanes goes back cluding splicing the parts of two fuseshy to his childhood in the 1920s when he

would sit on his fathers lap and fly iniages together to make one With the completion of the Cessna his uncles Jenny whenever the Jenny

170A in early 1955 he flew to Florida came to town barnstorming where he was hired as an AampP by the He is a lifetime member of EAA and

local Cessna distributor Sunny South AAA He was president of the WisconshyAircraft Service Later that same year sin Chapter of AAA for two terms and he joined Pan American World Airways a director of AntiqueClassic Division as a co-pilot flying Convair 240s Since of EAA for two terms He served as edishythen he has flown Douglas DC-4 6 7C tor of The Vintage Airplane magazine from

January 1976 until February 1978 8 Boeing 707 and 720 aircraft Besides J R Nielander Jr He currently owns and flies a 1939 his ATR and mechanic tickets he also Fort Lauderdale FL Piper J3 Cub which he completely re-Pan Am Pilot J R was elected vice-president of the

holds a flight navigator license stored in 1968 and a 1939 Franklin Sport

By the time he learned to fly at Lakeshy AntiqueClassic Division at its organizashy biplane which he restored in 1969 A wood Airpark Mount Healthy Ohio tional meeting on November 6 1971 1931 Travel Air 12Q will be flying this

summer and two American Eaglets and in 1951 J R had already completed He held that office until he was elected five years of university study as well president by the Board of Directors at an E2 Cub are his current restoration as one year of graduate school With their meeting on February 5 1976 projects

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Morton W Lester Martinsville Virginia Builder-Developer and Real Estate Investor

Morton is President of The Lester Corshyporation and Vice-President of Motor Imports Inc He is Executive Vice-Presishydent of the Virginia Aeronautical Hisshytorical Society and a board member of several other civic governmental busishyness and humanitarian organizations Morton was soloed by his father at the age of 10 in a Piper Cub He currently owns several prototype antiques such as the Ryan SCW Davis Low Wing Aeronca and Johnson Rocket His curshyrent ship is a civilian Howard DGA-15P He also owns a rare Travel Air 6000B which is currently undergoing restorashytion under the careful expertise of his cousin Pete Covington Morton is a Trustee of the EAA Air Museum Foundashytion and a past chairman of the Classic Judging Team of Oshkosh He is past president and current member of the executive committee of EAA Chapter 395 (NC Sc amp Va Antique Airplane Foundation) Morton and his wife Marshygaret have three children

M C Kelly Viets Stilwell Kansas Consulting Engineer Self-Employed

Kelly entered the consulting engineer field in 1938 and spent World War II designing airports and base facilities for the U S government He started his own firm Viets Consulting Engishyneers in 1954 He is a registered proshyfessional engineer and holds membershyship in numerous professional societies Kelly spent a lot of his younger days around Kansas City Municipal and Fairshyfax airports seeing Benny Howards Ike make its first flights the Travel Air Mystery Ship on the way to Cleveshyland all the early airliners etc He startshyed flight instruction in 1938 in a 55 hp Porterfield and finally got his ticket on the GI Bill in 1946 Kelly and his wife Edna own an Ercoupe and the two of them started and manage the Internashytional Ercoupe Association Their monthshyly newsletter goes out to over 550 Ershycoupe enthusiasts around the world Kelly also owns and is restoring the 14shy12 Bellanca that was used as the protoshytype for the 14-13 series He is a Director of EAAs Antique-Classic Division Kelly and Edna have 3 children

Art Morgan Milwaukee Wisconsin Oster Service Division

Art Morgan began flying in 1961 and received his private license in 1962 In 1965 he went on to get his commercial rating

He has been a member of EAA since 1962 and was parking airplanes at Rockshyford Illinois

Art was one of the first to start buildshying a KR-1 and although he did not complete his project he was instrumenshytal in the completion of two of the little birds

In 1974 he and his wife Kate purchased a 1939 Luscombe 8-C which he promptly rebuilt After two years of flying the Lusshycombe Art and several friends organshyized the American Luscombe Club

Art has served the EAA as a museum volunteer for several years as Classic parking chairman at Oshkosh and also as Antique-Classic parking chairman

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I Pioneer Northwest pilot Eclith Fol tz lVel 1 neltive of Dallas maiden name - 1agali She learned to I) in Portlaml Oregon Fel)(uar) of l)l8

l IJdrntormecl a long-wing Edglerock (OX-5) middotkCfuirec License 5nOO and lVas th e fifth US wOlllan to ohtain the Transport rlIing

J Barnstorming the Northwest - Pilot Greenwood in a Ryan Brougham and Edith in the OX-5 Eaglerock

4 Edith placed second in the light-plane division of the first Nashytional Womens Air Derby 1929 Santa Monica to Cleveland flying an Alexander Eaglerock Bullet (Kinner engine) Charter member of the 99s

5 May 1930 - Edith christening The Romer new five-passenger airplane manufactured by the National Aircraft Corp Beavershyton Oregon

Vintag The Flying life

Compile (Special thanks to Paulin sharing Edith Sterns scr

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1 I Edith Stearns in structed Naval and Kingsv ille TX after WWII with Pauline Glasson Decease

Album m es of Edith Foltz Stearns ~ I enn Bu ff ington on of Co rp us Chr isti Texas fo r ( w ith us - also to I B Decker the photos)

ts in ins trum ent flying at Corpus Christi eel the 52 and 53 Powder Puff Derbies 956 ending a brillidnt flying career

Edith served as th e first Northwest Section Governor of the 99s - and she also w as Oregon Governor of the National Aeronautics Assn in the ea rl y ]Os She flew a Kinner Bird in the 3 7 and 32 derbies both from Sa nta Monica to Cleveland (4th in 3 7 and 2nd in 32 in th e women s division)

7 Edith and her son Richard Foltz age 6 in 793 7 a t Portland Oregon

8 7932 a t Cleveland Na tiona l Air Races (L to R) Vio la Gentry G ladys ODonn ell Florence Klingensmith Frank Phillips Edith Foltz Stearns and Frances Marsalis taken with Phillips Woolshyaroc Trophy Edith flew th e Bird to 2nd place in the Amelia Earhart Trophy Race (pylons) 1932 Klingesmith was first in a Monoco upe

9 Sk irts ~a flyin Edith Foltz Stea rns models one or her trade-marked FoIZLIp flying lOgs which eas il y converted to st reet wear - 7 932

I O Edith managed a new feeder airl in e a t Portshyland dnd taught prim ary CPT at Salem prior to WWII - se rved in En g land as a Firs t Officer in the Air Tran sport Aux iliary here in uniform

(Fred Chew photo)

Bills Cessna 140 slips through a quick left turn in a test of-rhe new splas h rails

A Harbor for Classics By David Gustafson Editor

Some fo lks would argue that Bali Hi is a mythical Island out in the South Pacific where the best in life is an everyday affair There are a few peoplehowshyever who would be inclined to suggest that the protoshytype model for Bali Hi can be found on the Southshyeast corner of Stafford Pond in Westport Masshysachusetts Thats where Bill Walsh lives What makes it special Well hes got several acres of land in the secluded inlet of a clear lake He doesn t have palm trees though his Norwegian pines give the same effect on a warm and breezy summer night To improve the natural scene Bill put in a dock laid down some railroad track for a movable ramp that can be winched right into the hangar he erected 200

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feet from the water Naturally there has to be someshything to place in the hangar so Bills lined the walls with tools and bending brakes The space thats left is reserved for his Cessna 140 Floatplane and the Aeronca Sedan hes rebuilding so he can be a twoshyfloatplane family

The Cessna 140 was built in 1948 and sent directly from Wichita to Sea Wings of Connecticut for conshyversion to floats It was then sold with floats and wheels With the stock Continental 85 horsepower engine the plane was marginal as a hot day aquatic performer Getting off the surf with two husky adults when its over 75 degrees out is a groaning process Some of the problem relates to the high speed airshy

foil that works nicely in cruise but does little to generate the kind of take-off lift you get in someshything like a Cub or Champ Even as a ground plane the Cessna requires a long take-off roll

Once airborne however the 140 levels off to a respectable 90 mph with a corkscrew that measures a wide 76 x 38 Bill s hoping to swap the C-85 someday for an 0-200 so he can take up so me of his fat friends in the mint julip season

As fa r as skidding around the pond Bill reports theres very little difference between the 140 and comshyparably sized float planes Of course the take-off runs lon ge r but once airborne (40-45 mph ) it climb s well and flies with much greater stability than a

land model The floats give it a big plane feeling says Bill

Stalls with a floating 140 are similar to the land configuration and intentional spins are strictly verbotten

When Bill bought the plane in 1963 it was on the floats but he couldnt get it off the water The floats leaked Experimentation revealed that the keel opened up on a take-off run so they were replaced Later he added spray rails which eliminated the center wake and brought the plane up onto the step quicker

In the wintertime the floats are replaced with skis and Bill goes out to race the ice boats Between

he floats and the skis the wheels havent been on the 140 for several years now When he wants to bounce around a paved runway he heads off to Fall River Airport haul s out a 170-B (of which he owns 1115th) and renews his acquaintance with toe brakes and squealing rubber

Like a growing number of people in EAA Bill divides his time between flying one project and tinkershying with another Hes lucky enough to have an Aeronca 15 AC Sedan as that other project He picked it up a couple years ago at a price that would take the wind out of some people Ask anyone who knows Bill or his close friend Fred Chew and theyll tell you that those two guys deserve a special suit that says SUPER-SCROUNGERS across the chest They have uncanny talents at picking up materials for nothing or next to it More than once in recent history theyve plucked chicken feathers out of an old Continental or Lycoming that was retrieved from the dark corner of a barn for around $100 (Actually Bills just finished a two-year term as President of EAA Chapter 51 in Middletown Rhode Island and Freds still the Chapter Designee - they have both done an excellent job)

When the opportunity arose they dickered and diddled and sang the song of a snake charmer until they could come home with a smile and that particular Sedan

Naturally the plane needed a little work The previous owner had argued with a pine tree The tree not only won but took the left wing as a prize The Aeronca was apparently so shocked by the action that it pulled back and stood up on the right wing as if to say I beg your pardon When things got back to level the right tip was mashed

How many times do you suppose guys like Bill and Fred have set out to unbend a wing but wound

(Fred Chew photo)

Off and flying the 140 is a marginal performer on hot days with a full load

(Fred Chew photo)

This Cessna 140 has been a regular feature in Bills back- yard for 15 years

up rebuilding the entire machine You can add their names to the list

One thing Bill quickly points out is that he and Fred are not engaged in a full-scale down-to-theshylast-screw restoration project Nope When it flies again i t will still be clearly recognizable as an Aeronca Sedan but there are some (approved ) changes in store Most obvious is the addition of brackets for float struts A presto-change-o routine with a few bolts will convert the plane from land to sea or vice versa

Conveniently it so happened that the greatest crash damage occurred on the left side Fred happily ripped out the bent tubes bent a few new ones and followed the STC cookbook for installing a left side door that opens upwards to the wing Its an approved mod for a seaplane configuration

(David Gustafson photo) Progress in the rebuild ing effort is evi shydent in this shot o f th e Sedan th e left wing attachment has been repaired the fusel age has been blas ted and primed the new left door frame is complete and a new headlin er s being installed

(Fred Chew photo) after abrupt removshy

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Each of the large metal wings originally contained 20 gallon rubber gas bladders (say that three times) and both leaked after the crash Replacement cost was $700 apiece so the wing panels were torn off and Fred bent up a couple of metal tanks that are larger than the originals Between the tanks and the twisted metal from the crash Fred figures hes disshymantled at least 80 per cent of the wings and replaced 50 per cent of the total materials Included are a number of ribs shaped by hand on wooden formers which were also hand etched from the pieces bound for the junk heap That translates into a lot of aluminum the wing span is 376 with a chord in excess of 5 feet which produces 200 square feet of wing area In the end Fred will be able to reproduce any curved part of the Sedans wing and yes he plans to come up with quotes for others needing help (write Fred Chew 158 Meridian Street Fall River Massach usetts 02720)

With the Clark Y airfoil and a Continental 145 horsepower engine the Sedan leaps off the ground almost as fast as a two-place Cub When you turn it into a Seadan by adding a couple EDO 2000s it breaks surf suction with a simple hop skip and a slurping leap The only drawback is that with the 2000s you cant hop unless there are only two people on board With four people and full tanks the floats become submarines As a result the two resourceful metal benders who plan to build their own floats are giving serious thought to making something bigshyger

(David Gustafson photo)

Detail of the float attachment fitting

Bills Aeronca was built in 1948 and like most classics its alread~ changed hands a few times Dr Paul Nussbaum was the first to drop mud on the carpets in 49 John Ru sh moved it from Missouri to Ohio ten years later After another decade a pair of partners in Pennsylvania flew it for awhile and then left it with another partnership in New York Gerry Broskin and Harris Gordon revamped the panel and went IFR Soon after that it became the answer to a dream for Ron and Diane Rissone in Randolph Massachusetts But then there was this pine tree That brings the odyssey of N1365H to Bill Walsh hangar and private seaplane base

The next time Bills Sedan sees another runway itll obviously be sporting rebuilt wings and new float brackets in addition there ll be a new windshield all new woodwork new ceconite new headliner new used back seats (from a Tri-Pacer yet) a new panel (still IFR) and discussion has already started about a total engine overhaul

Theres one other new item in the works for the Sedan When its checked out on its wheels again there ll be a streamlined gas tank nestled in the gear bay You see Bill and Fred have promised themselves this extended tour of South America once they finish

Then the Sedan will bob in the harbor beside the Cessna and Bill can wrestle with the question which one do I fly today

(David Gustafson photo)

Fred Chew holds up the new tip hes built for the right wing

(David Gustafson photo)

Bill Walsh displys the seaplane door thats being installed on the left side of th e Sedan

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Restoration Tips a photo essay provided by

Fred Chew 158 Meridian St

Fall River Mass 02720

(Note Freds kept an exce llent photo record of the process of rebuilding the wings for Bill Walshs Aeronca Sedan It gives a good idea of how to do it and how much works involved)

No2 - Teardown reveals the damage No4 - Line up new to old

No 1 - Last step before rebuilding

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Aeronca Sedan spar repair 7976 (Right wing) No5 - Extrusion repair

No8 - Removing old section No 10 - Repair of extrusion spar No6 - Horizontal-line up

No7 - New piece made ready for hole flare No9 - Ready for spar extrusion repair No 17 - New piece in place for riveting

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No 12 - Nose rib in place No 15 - Form to fit inside of old damaged spar tip rib NO 78 - Hand form mg

No 73 - C1eco nose rib to spa r No 16 - 032 alclad ready to be clamped in form No 79 - Flanging spar tip

No 74 - Ready to repair rear spar No 77 - Form ready for hand bending jig for lightening holes No 20 - More of same 22

No 27 - Trim off excess flange No 24 - Test fit to spar No 27 - 032 alclad 2024 TJ

No 22 - Trim square to form No 25 - Fly cutting lightening holes No 28 - Spar tip ready for installation

No 23 - Remove from form No 26 - Flanging No 29 - Clecos test line up 23

The Babv Cessna

It was born in Wichita Kansas at the Cessna fac-shytory in 1929 Because of the stock market slump the Airplane manufacturing business fell off drasshytically To try and keep the plant in operation Eldon Cessna decided to design and build a light airplane that could be sold at a low price As a result the EC-1 was developed It was powered with a 25 hp Cleone engine

At the time I was enrolled at the Braley School of Flying which was located directly across the road to the east of the Cessna field I spent much of my spare time at the field watching the men work on and fly the Baby Cessna It was a fascinating little airplane

Early last year I was looking for a suitable airshyplane to model for a C02 Powered model airplane contest I remembered the Baby Cessna and thought it would be just what I wanted

In doing research for drawings and photos I found that photos of both the EC-1 and the EC-2 were available but no drawings I had a photo of the EC-1 that I had taken with my Brownie box camera The EC-2 looked cleaner with its design refinements and the Aeronca E-107 engine

I met Eldon Cessna at-an OX5 get-to-gether at the Santa Paula Airport and we discussed the EC-2 at length He informed me that plans had never been published The EC-2 (cn 253 N405W) was the last Baby Cessna built

From the photos and from memory of being around the Baby Cessna these plans for a model were drawn Imagine what a delightful fun airplane it would be for a homebuilt replica project today These specifications appeared in the 1930 issue of Air Age magazine

Baby Cessna EC-2 (cn253 N405W) 30 hp Aeronca E-707A

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Baby Cessna EC-7 (cn 257 N403W) 25 hp Cleone 1930

By Cedric Calloway EAA 752

74624 Willow Street Hesperia CA 92345

~ --~ THE BABY CESSNA

Span 34 ft 11 in Wing area 163 sq ft Length overall 20 ft 4 in Height overall bull 5 ft 6 in Weights

Empty 470 Ibs Gross 925 Ibs

Gasoline capacity 8 gal Oil capacity 34 gal Power (Aeronca E-107A) 30 hp

PERFORMANCE

High speed 86 mph Cruising speed 70 mph Stalling speed 38 mph Climb first minute 740 ft Ceiling (service) 15000 ft Cruising range 200 miles

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JULY 9 - EASTON PENNSYLVANIA - 2nd Annual Aeronca FlyshyIn Easton Airport 10 AM to 230 PM open to all types of Aeroncas Rain date July 16 Contact Jim Polles 2151759-3713 nights and weekends

JULY 14-16 - MINDEN NEBRASKA - Second Annual National Stinshyson Club Fly-In Pioneer Field near Harold Warp s Pioneer Vilshylage BBQ Friday night for early arriva ls Saturday night banq uet and awards Schedu led events Fly-In Chairman Bob Near 2702 Butterfoot Lane Hastings Nebraska 68901 402463-9309

JULY 15middot16 - LOCKPORT ILLINOI S - Chapter 15 and 86 of the Ch icago area EAA are now formulating plans for their 18th Annua l Fly-In and Air Show to be held at Lewis University In shyformation Janice P Fish PO 411 Lemont Illinoi s 60439

JULY 15-16 - LONG ISLAND NEW YORK - Antique Airp lane Club of Grea ter New York 16th Annual Fly- In Brookhaven Airport Brookhaven Long Island New York

JULY 16 - DUNKIRK NEW YORK - A nnual Fly-In Breakfast sponsored by EAA Chapter 46 and Dunkirk Rotary Free breakshyfast to homebui lders antique and warbi rd pilots Trophies in all EAA classes Spot landing contest on arrival Contact Charles Gallagher 19 Shelby Drive Buffalo New York 14225

JULY 21-23 - COFFEYVILLE KANSAS - Funk Fly- In Funk owners pilots and friends invited Fly-b ys factory and museum tours banquet Contact G Dale Beach 1621 Dreher Street Sacramento California 95814 o r Joe C Funk 2409 Edgevale Drive Coffeyshyville Kansas 67337

JULY 29 - AUGUST 5 - OSHKOSH WISCONSIN - 26th Ann ual EAA FlY-in Plan now - its the greatest show on eart h

AUGUST 6-12 - LAKELAND FLORIDA - International Cessna 170 Associat ion Conven tion Lakeland Florida

AUGUST 7-12 - FOND DU LAC WISCONSIN - 13th Annua l EAN lAC Internationa l Aeroba tic Championships For further informashytion conta ct Sam Maxwell 2116 Erie North Kansas City MO 64116

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1 I~rlII~llS Dear Sir

I am trying to get information on an aircraft that was built during the 20s called the Golden Eagle Chief It was a parasol wing powered by a radial engine type unshyknown Only about seven were built If any of your Antique classic division members know anything about this aircraft I would like to get in touch with them

I would like to take this opportunity to express what an outstanding organization I think the EAA is Ive only been a member for three years and only regret the years before I joined SPORT AVIATION is one of the best publications that I have ever read I have been to Oshkosh twice and to quite a few local fly-ins including Sun N Fun and have never seen anything more organized or better run I am looking forward to Oshkosh 78 and to continued membership in a fine organization

Sincerely james E Spradley (EAA 108947) PO Box 146 Rutledge Alabama 36071

Dear Mr Nielander Your editorial in the February issue of The Vinshy

tage Airplane is the best expression of the question of who is really qualified to maintain antique and classic aircraft (this applies equally well to some curshyrent aircraft such as the Bellanca Viking etc)

I submit the following recommendation as a way to offset some of the difficulties expressed in your excellent editorial to wit

The FAA should grant an A and E (or P) mechanics license to an individual who meets the following qualifications

(1) Passes three written examinations now required for the rating

(2) Passes the practical examination currently reshyquired

(3) Can show that he has actually done the major portion of the work in the restoration of an antique or classic airplane

You will note that the difference between these requirements and the current FAR part 65 requireshyments is the modification of sec 6577 which relates to on-the-job or schooling experience

From my own experience in restoring three airshyplanes (Luscombe Stinson Reliant Beechcraft B17L) I know that the amount of honest-to-God airplane and engine work in the usual restoration project is in exshycess of the stuff that the students in the approved

mechanic schools get Moreover during the 30 months practical experience referred to in FAR 6577 a lot of that time is spent just removing cowlings cleanshying sparkplugs changing tires sweeping floors pumpshying gas and plowing snow I guess what Im trying to do is build a case which shows that the antique classic restorer or homebuilder knows just as much about airplanes in general as does the individual who qualifies under the current provisions of FAR sec 6577

Very truly yours Thomas R Rench 1601 Circlewood Drive Racine Wisconsin 53402

Dear AI Perhaps I can shed a little light on the centershy

fold of the February issue of The Vintage Airplane The two planes pictured in the center of the page

are Top picture Wright Martin (Loening) M-8 Botshytom picture is an Ansaldo SVA-5 or SVA-9

The Loen ing was manufactured by the Wright Marshytin Corp and was built in 1921-1922 The factory deSignation was M-8

The Army Air Service designation was PW-2 PWshy2A and PW-2B Two of the PW-2 model were built in 1921 Gross weight was 2788 Ibs span 39 8 length 24 2 Ten of the PW-2A model were ordered by the Air Service but the order was cancelled after four were built in 1922 Gross weight was 2799 Ibs span 39 9 length 26 1

The PW2B was evaluated in 1922 but was never built Gross weight was to be 2976 Ibs span 34 1 length 23 4

PW-2 and PW-2A were powered by the Wright Martin H of 320 hp which was a Hisso built under license The PW2-B was to be powered by a 350 hp Packard engine

The Ansaldo can be either an SVA-5 or SVA-9 as the front view doesnt show whether it is a two place or single place The SVA-5 was single place while the SVA-9 was two place Both were powered by the Breda SPA-6A engine which was 6 cylinders and rated at 200 hp at 1600 rpm

I understand that there is an SVA-5 in a museum in Connecticut but I am not sure of this

Hope this information will be of some use to you Best regards H M Harkcom Harkcom Aircraft Service Rt 1 Inola Oklahoma

Dear AI In the February issue j R Nielander wrote an in shy

teresting editorial concerning the possibilities in the area of personal certification of antique aircraft by the owner restorer

Without blowing my own horn too loud I have worked with antiquers and others for the last 28 years doing what j R talks about signing off work for non-rated owners A lot of these people are really sharp and most do above average work and should be allowed to cut it on their own somehow

I think the key to this thing is for the FAA to set up a program whereby the interested antiquer could satisfy them that he is qualified to restore and mainshytain his antique This may not be as far away from FAA thinking as one might imagine as there has been talk around for some time at lower levels that the AampE ratings cover too much area for the average mechanic In other words the thinking in some areas of the FAA is that specialized ratings might be needed to have better qualified people in the field where needed If this thinking is still being kicked around in the FAA then the people in the antique field would fit into the thinking already floating around

A specialized rating for antiquers that covered about what was in old manual 18 would not be diffi shycult to qualify for I would favor two ratings along the lines of the AampP If an antiquer did not want to get into the mechanics of engines he could go after an airframe rating only If he wanted to be able to annual his antique then of course he would have to hold both tickets To satisfy the FARs and the inshysurance companies I think the antique rating apshyproach has good merit

I have talked to several antiquers not rated and they all said that they would be happy to work toshyward a limited type rating that would allow them unrestricted labor on their own aircraft They all feel that they should have this opportunity and I concur I have not always been happy to sign off work as an IA due to the fact that there is no such thing as direct supervision even if you are in the same room all the time Also I have seen the FAA just as uneasy mostly because they as a whole are far from qualified to judge most antiques

Well hope this fills a small gap in the ove rall picture If I can be of further help in any way please let me know

Sincerely Bob Younkin 55 Appleby Road Razorback Airport Fayetteville Arkansas 72701 26

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RAF Se5A 32 photos as above $2000 ($1500 to EAA memshybers) - Ben Owen EAA Air Museum (above)

Drawings for 85 scale all-wood reproduction - Replica Plans 953 Kirkmond Crescent Richshymond BC CANADA

Air Force Museum (above) Gordon E Codding (above) Complete set from which RAF Museum ship was rebuilt - Public Records Office Chancery Lane London UK (See Note below also)

Roland DVlab 5 sheets 34 x 44 fully detailed $5000 plus postage $350 (these fine drawings reviewed this issue p2) - Dan-San Abbott 25886 Gettysburg Avenue Hayward CA 94545

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Sopwith Bl Baby Bulldog Buffalo Camel Condor Cuckoo Dolphin Dove Dragon Gnu Gun Bus Hippo Pup Rainbow Ram Rhino Salamander Snail Snapper Snipe 112 Strutter Swallow Tabloid Triplane

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Sopwith Camel Air Force Museum (above) Gordon E Codding (above) Clayton amp Shuttleworth drawings of F1 Some 2F1 200 drawings for $144 Chris J Warrilow (above)

Sopwith Pup GordonE Codding (above) Air Force Museum (above) 72 drawings 18 x 24 $162 00 - Smithsonian Institution Washington DC

Sopwith Triplane (110 Clerget) Clayton amp Shuttleworth drawings about 100 for $7200 Chris Warrilow (above)

S Wieser Dir Plantetarium Clagary Parks Departshyment Box 2100 Calgary Alberta Canada

Sopwith Miscellaneous Types (SS SSD2 SPGN 150 hp Smith D3 S STS STD D2 DS frS 225 Sunbeam frS 220 hp Seaplane 2FR2 50 Gnome Biplane)

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Spad 7 Air Museum (above) Gordon E Codding (above) Jack Hickey 1659 Willis S St Paul Minn 55705shy20 sheets for $7500

Spad 13 Gordon E Codding (above)

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Wright Gliders 4 plates 1899 Kite 17 x 22 1900-01-02 Gliders 110 sca le 34 x 48 total $3500 - Herbert L Kelley (above)

Wright Flyer 1903 Master drawings made for construction of Kitty Hawk Memorial reproduction 21 sheets for $2200 (make check payable to Cooper-Trent) - Louis S Casey Cu rator Aircraft amp Aeronautics National Air amp Space Museum Washington DC 20560)

Notes Complete drawings for display or building the Spandau LMGO-8-15 mig 3 x 6Vz - Ray Hollings 338054 Street San Diego CA 92105

RAE TECH MEMO 4 This catalog is subtitled

The EAA Aviation Museum is now the proud owner

Catalogue of Original Tracings of Aircraft and Engines Designed and Built by the RAE 1911-1918 assembled by Wing Commander NHF Unwin from Public Records Office Chancery L ne London UK Drawings are listed by aircraft type subject of drawing and drawing number any can be bought separately The SE5A set is complete (of RAF SE5A above) Types for which at least some drawings are available

Bristol Scout Bristol F2B Cierva Autogyro DH1-69-10 Hamble Baby Handley-Page 0400

V-1500 Short 225 320 Sopwith 1 Pup Triplane

Camel Snipe Dolphin

RAF BE1-5 7-1012 RAF CE1 RAF FE1-9 12 RAF NE1 RAF HAM I RAF Hydro-Aeroplane 17 RAF HRE 2 RAF RE1 3 5-9 RAF BS1 RAF SE1 2 4 4a 5 5a RAF TE1

EAAs Aviation Museum has built a replica of its own the Ryan NX-211 Spirit of SI Louis its also sponsored construction of this replica Wright Flyer at the Blackshyhawk Technical Institute in janesville Wisconsin

of this replica Fokker DR-I Triplane which was built and shydonated by Robert H Fergus of Columbus Ohio The white paint scheme on this replica was used by Lt Hans Weiss who flew with von Richtoffen

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planes fighters up through transportw Brad Thomas JrNotice of Annual Business Meeting C-54sPilot Mountain North Carolina Today he holds a commercial licenseand Manufacturer with single and multi-engine land and Born in High Point North CarolinaElection of Officers and Directors instrument ratings and remains actively

Brad was educated at McCallie School flying with his Gyrocopter and VW powshyNotice is hereby given that an annual business Chattanooga Tennessee MIT Camshy ered Scamp both built by him a Moonshy

meeting of the members of the EAA AntiqueClassic bridge Massachusetts and High Point ey for travel and a D-17R Staggerwing Division will be held on Saturday August 5 1978 at College His flying career began at the He is currently Secretary of the Antique

age of 16 when he soloed and obtained1030 AM (Central Daylight Time) at the 26th Anshy Classic Division of EAA Oshkosh Conshynual Convention of the Experimental Aircraft Associashy his private license in 1938 The advent vention Classic Awards Chairman and tion Inc Wittman Field Oshkosh Wisconsin of World War II encouraged his enlistshy Chief Judge Secretary and Treasurer

Notice is hereby further given that the annual ment in the Army Air Corps as a pilot of EAA Chapter 8 Greensboro N C election of officers and directors of the EAA Antique He graduated from British Flying Trainshy Vice-President of EAA Antique ChapshyClassic Division will be conducted by ballot disshy ing School No5 Clewiston Florida with ter 3 and a member of their executive tributed to the members along with this June issue of both Air Corps and RAF wings was transshy committee Br-ad and his wife Ferne The Vintage Airplane Said ballot must be returned ferred to the 7th Ferry Group Air Transshy have five children of which one is an properly marked to the Ballot Tally Committee EAA port Command Great Falls Montana active oilot AntiqueClassic Division Box 229 Hales Corners where he ferried most types of Air Corps Wisconsin 53130 and received no later than August 3 1978

Ronald Fritz Chairman Nominating Committee

W Brad Thomas Jr Secretary the acquisition of his private pilot li shyEAA AntiqueClassic Division cense he immediately bought and reshy

stored his first airplane a 1946 Cessna AI Kelch 140 N72323 which had been used as Mequon Wisconsin a trainer at South Dayton Airport In

Manufacturer1953 he rebuilt and restored 1946 Cessna AI -started his own company in 1950 140 N73018 and flew it during the reshy

mainder of 1953 and 1954 During this The Kelch Corp which is now a conshysame period J R bought an extensively glomerate of 5 small manufacturing comshydamaged 1949 Cessna 170A N9730A and panies in the industrial plastic field completely rebuilt and restored it inshy AI s interest in airplanes goes back cluding splicing the parts of two fuseshy to his childhood in the 1920s when he

would sit on his fathers lap and fly iniages together to make one With the completion of the Cessna his uncles Jenny whenever the Jenny

170A in early 1955 he flew to Florida came to town barnstorming where he was hired as an AampP by the He is a lifetime member of EAA and

local Cessna distributor Sunny South AAA He was president of the WisconshyAircraft Service Later that same year sin Chapter of AAA for two terms and he joined Pan American World Airways a director of AntiqueClassic Division as a co-pilot flying Convair 240s Since of EAA for two terms He served as edishythen he has flown Douglas DC-4 6 7C tor of The Vintage Airplane magazine from

January 1976 until February 1978 8 Boeing 707 and 720 aircraft Besides J R Nielander Jr He currently owns and flies a 1939 his ATR and mechanic tickets he also Fort Lauderdale FL Piper J3 Cub which he completely re-Pan Am Pilot J R was elected vice-president of the

holds a flight navigator license stored in 1968 and a 1939 Franklin Sport

By the time he learned to fly at Lakeshy AntiqueClassic Division at its organizashy biplane which he restored in 1969 A wood Airpark Mount Healthy Ohio tional meeting on November 6 1971 1931 Travel Air 12Q will be flying this

summer and two American Eaglets and in 1951 J R had already completed He held that office until he was elected five years of university study as well president by the Board of Directors at an E2 Cub are his current restoration as one year of graduate school With their meeting on February 5 1976 projects

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Morton W Lester Martinsville Virginia Builder-Developer and Real Estate Investor

Morton is President of The Lester Corshyporation and Vice-President of Motor Imports Inc He is Executive Vice-Presishydent of the Virginia Aeronautical Hisshytorical Society and a board member of several other civic governmental busishyness and humanitarian organizations Morton was soloed by his father at the age of 10 in a Piper Cub He currently owns several prototype antiques such as the Ryan SCW Davis Low Wing Aeronca and Johnson Rocket His curshyrent ship is a civilian Howard DGA-15P He also owns a rare Travel Air 6000B which is currently undergoing restorashytion under the careful expertise of his cousin Pete Covington Morton is a Trustee of the EAA Air Museum Foundashytion and a past chairman of the Classic Judging Team of Oshkosh He is past president and current member of the executive committee of EAA Chapter 395 (NC Sc amp Va Antique Airplane Foundation) Morton and his wife Marshygaret have three children

M C Kelly Viets Stilwell Kansas Consulting Engineer Self-Employed

Kelly entered the consulting engineer field in 1938 and spent World War II designing airports and base facilities for the U S government He started his own firm Viets Consulting Engishyneers in 1954 He is a registered proshyfessional engineer and holds membershyship in numerous professional societies Kelly spent a lot of his younger days around Kansas City Municipal and Fairshyfax airports seeing Benny Howards Ike make its first flights the Travel Air Mystery Ship on the way to Cleveshyland all the early airliners etc He startshyed flight instruction in 1938 in a 55 hp Porterfield and finally got his ticket on the GI Bill in 1946 Kelly and his wife Edna own an Ercoupe and the two of them started and manage the Internashytional Ercoupe Association Their monthshyly newsletter goes out to over 550 Ershycoupe enthusiasts around the world Kelly also owns and is restoring the 14shy12 Bellanca that was used as the protoshytype for the 14-13 series He is a Director of EAAs Antique-Classic Division Kelly and Edna have 3 children

Art Morgan Milwaukee Wisconsin Oster Service Division

Art Morgan began flying in 1961 and received his private license in 1962 In 1965 he went on to get his commercial rating

He has been a member of EAA since 1962 and was parking airplanes at Rockshyford Illinois

Art was one of the first to start buildshying a KR-1 and although he did not complete his project he was instrumenshytal in the completion of two of the little birds

In 1974 he and his wife Kate purchased a 1939 Luscombe 8-C which he promptly rebuilt After two years of flying the Lusshycombe Art and several friends organshyized the American Luscombe Club

Art has served the EAA as a museum volunteer for several years as Classic parking chairman at Oshkosh and also as Antique-Classic parking chairman

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I Pioneer Northwest pilot Eclith Fol tz lVel 1 neltive of Dallas maiden name - 1agali She learned to I) in Portlaml Oregon Fel)(uar) of l)l8

l IJdrntormecl a long-wing Edglerock (OX-5) middotkCfuirec License 5nOO and lVas th e fifth US wOlllan to ohtain the Transport rlIing

J Barnstorming the Northwest - Pilot Greenwood in a Ryan Brougham and Edith in the OX-5 Eaglerock

4 Edith placed second in the light-plane division of the first Nashytional Womens Air Derby 1929 Santa Monica to Cleveland flying an Alexander Eaglerock Bullet (Kinner engine) Charter member of the 99s

5 May 1930 - Edith christening The Romer new five-passenger airplane manufactured by the National Aircraft Corp Beavershyton Oregon

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1 I Edith Stearns in structed Naval and Kingsv ille TX after WWII with Pauline Glasson Decease

Album m es of Edith Foltz Stearns ~ I enn Bu ff ington on of Co rp us Chr isti Texas fo r ( w ith us - also to I B Decker the photos)

ts in ins trum ent flying at Corpus Christi eel the 52 and 53 Powder Puff Derbies 956 ending a brillidnt flying career

Edith served as th e first Northwest Section Governor of the 99s - and she also w as Oregon Governor of the National Aeronautics Assn in the ea rl y ]Os She flew a Kinner Bird in the 3 7 and 32 derbies both from Sa nta Monica to Cleveland (4th in 3 7 and 2nd in 32 in th e women s division)

7 Edith and her son Richard Foltz age 6 in 793 7 a t Portland Oregon

8 7932 a t Cleveland Na tiona l Air Races (L to R) Vio la Gentry G ladys ODonn ell Florence Klingensmith Frank Phillips Edith Foltz Stearns and Frances Marsalis taken with Phillips Woolshyaroc Trophy Edith flew th e Bird to 2nd place in the Amelia Earhart Trophy Race (pylons) 1932 Klingesmith was first in a Monoco upe

9 Sk irts ~a flyin Edith Foltz Stea rns models one or her trade-marked FoIZLIp flying lOgs which eas il y converted to st reet wear - 7 932

I O Edith managed a new feeder airl in e a t Portshyland dnd taught prim ary CPT at Salem prior to WWII - se rved in En g land as a Firs t Officer in the Air Tran sport Aux iliary here in uniform

(Fred Chew photo)

Bills Cessna 140 slips through a quick left turn in a test of-rhe new splas h rails

A Harbor for Classics By David Gustafson Editor

Some fo lks would argue that Bali Hi is a mythical Island out in the South Pacific where the best in life is an everyday affair There are a few peoplehowshyever who would be inclined to suggest that the protoshytype model for Bali Hi can be found on the Southshyeast corner of Stafford Pond in Westport Masshysachusetts Thats where Bill Walsh lives What makes it special Well hes got several acres of land in the secluded inlet of a clear lake He doesn t have palm trees though his Norwegian pines give the same effect on a warm and breezy summer night To improve the natural scene Bill put in a dock laid down some railroad track for a movable ramp that can be winched right into the hangar he erected 200

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feet from the water Naturally there has to be someshything to place in the hangar so Bills lined the walls with tools and bending brakes The space thats left is reserved for his Cessna 140 Floatplane and the Aeronca Sedan hes rebuilding so he can be a twoshyfloatplane family

The Cessna 140 was built in 1948 and sent directly from Wichita to Sea Wings of Connecticut for conshyversion to floats It was then sold with floats and wheels With the stock Continental 85 horsepower engine the plane was marginal as a hot day aquatic performer Getting off the surf with two husky adults when its over 75 degrees out is a groaning process Some of the problem relates to the high speed airshy

foil that works nicely in cruise but does little to generate the kind of take-off lift you get in someshything like a Cub or Champ Even as a ground plane the Cessna requires a long take-off roll

Once airborne however the 140 levels off to a respectable 90 mph with a corkscrew that measures a wide 76 x 38 Bill s hoping to swap the C-85 someday for an 0-200 so he can take up so me of his fat friends in the mint julip season

As fa r as skidding around the pond Bill reports theres very little difference between the 140 and comshyparably sized float planes Of course the take-off runs lon ge r but once airborne (40-45 mph ) it climb s well and flies with much greater stability than a

land model The floats give it a big plane feeling says Bill

Stalls with a floating 140 are similar to the land configuration and intentional spins are strictly verbotten

When Bill bought the plane in 1963 it was on the floats but he couldnt get it off the water The floats leaked Experimentation revealed that the keel opened up on a take-off run so they were replaced Later he added spray rails which eliminated the center wake and brought the plane up onto the step quicker

In the wintertime the floats are replaced with skis and Bill goes out to race the ice boats Between

he floats and the skis the wheels havent been on the 140 for several years now When he wants to bounce around a paved runway he heads off to Fall River Airport haul s out a 170-B (of which he owns 1115th) and renews his acquaintance with toe brakes and squealing rubber

Like a growing number of people in EAA Bill divides his time between flying one project and tinkershying with another Hes lucky enough to have an Aeronca 15 AC Sedan as that other project He picked it up a couple years ago at a price that would take the wind out of some people Ask anyone who knows Bill or his close friend Fred Chew and theyll tell you that those two guys deserve a special suit that says SUPER-SCROUNGERS across the chest They have uncanny talents at picking up materials for nothing or next to it More than once in recent history theyve plucked chicken feathers out of an old Continental or Lycoming that was retrieved from the dark corner of a barn for around $100 (Actually Bills just finished a two-year term as President of EAA Chapter 51 in Middletown Rhode Island and Freds still the Chapter Designee - they have both done an excellent job)

When the opportunity arose they dickered and diddled and sang the song of a snake charmer until they could come home with a smile and that particular Sedan

Naturally the plane needed a little work The previous owner had argued with a pine tree The tree not only won but took the left wing as a prize The Aeronca was apparently so shocked by the action that it pulled back and stood up on the right wing as if to say I beg your pardon When things got back to level the right tip was mashed

How many times do you suppose guys like Bill and Fred have set out to unbend a wing but wound

(Fred Chew photo)

Off and flying the 140 is a marginal performer on hot days with a full load

(Fred Chew photo)

This Cessna 140 has been a regular feature in Bills back- yard for 15 years

up rebuilding the entire machine You can add their names to the list

One thing Bill quickly points out is that he and Fred are not engaged in a full-scale down-to-theshylast-screw restoration project Nope When it flies again i t will still be clearly recognizable as an Aeronca Sedan but there are some (approved ) changes in store Most obvious is the addition of brackets for float struts A presto-change-o routine with a few bolts will convert the plane from land to sea or vice versa

Conveniently it so happened that the greatest crash damage occurred on the left side Fred happily ripped out the bent tubes bent a few new ones and followed the STC cookbook for installing a left side door that opens upwards to the wing Its an approved mod for a seaplane configuration

(David Gustafson photo) Progress in the rebuild ing effort is evi shydent in this shot o f th e Sedan th e left wing attachment has been repaired the fusel age has been blas ted and primed the new left door frame is complete and a new headlin er s being installed

(Fred Chew photo) after abrupt removshy

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Each of the large metal wings originally contained 20 gallon rubber gas bladders (say that three times) and both leaked after the crash Replacement cost was $700 apiece so the wing panels were torn off and Fred bent up a couple of metal tanks that are larger than the originals Between the tanks and the twisted metal from the crash Fred figures hes disshymantled at least 80 per cent of the wings and replaced 50 per cent of the total materials Included are a number of ribs shaped by hand on wooden formers which were also hand etched from the pieces bound for the junk heap That translates into a lot of aluminum the wing span is 376 with a chord in excess of 5 feet which produces 200 square feet of wing area In the end Fred will be able to reproduce any curved part of the Sedans wing and yes he plans to come up with quotes for others needing help (write Fred Chew 158 Meridian Street Fall River Massach usetts 02720)

With the Clark Y airfoil and a Continental 145 horsepower engine the Sedan leaps off the ground almost as fast as a two-place Cub When you turn it into a Seadan by adding a couple EDO 2000s it breaks surf suction with a simple hop skip and a slurping leap The only drawback is that with the 2000s you cant hop unless there are only two people on board With four people and full tanks the floats become submarines As a result the two resourceful metal benders who plan to build their own floats are giving serious thought to making something bigshyger

(David Gustafson photo)

Detail of the float attachment fitting

Bills Aeronca was built in 1948 and like most classics its alread~ changed hands a few times Dr Paul Nussbaum was the first to drop mud on the carpets in 49 John Ru sh moved it from Missouri to Ohio ten years later After another decade a pair of partners in Pennsylvania flew it for awhile and then left it with another partnership in New York Gerry Broskin and Harris Gordon revamped the panel and went IFR Soon after that it became the answer to a dream for Ron and Diane Rissone in Randolph Massachusetts But then there was this pine tree That brings the odyssey of N1365H to Bill Walsh hangar and private seaplane base

The next time Bills Sedan sees another runway itll obviously be sporting rebuilt wings and new float brackets in addition there ll be a new windshield all new woodwork new ceconite new headliner new used back seats (from a Tri-Pacer yet) a new panel (still IFR) and discussion has already started about a total engine overhaul

Theres one other new item in the works for the Sedan When its checked out on its wheels again there ll be a streamlined gas tank nestled in the gear bay You see Bill and Fred have promised themselves this extended tour of South America once they finish

Then the Sedan will bob in the harbor beside the Cessna and Bill can wrestle with the question which one do I fly today

(David Gustafson photo)

Fred Chew holds up the new tip hes built for the right wing

(David Gustafson photo)

Bill Walsh displys the seaplane door thats being installed on the left side of th e Sedan

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Restoration Tips a photo essay provided by

Fred Chew 158 Meridian St

Fall River Mass 02720

(Note Freds kept an exce llent photo record of the process of rebuilding the wings for Bill Walshs Aeronca Sedan It gives a good idea of how to do it and how much works involved)

No2 - Teardown reveals the damage No4 - Line up new to old

No 1 - Last step before rebuilding

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Aeronca Sedan spar repair 7976 (Right wing) No5 - Extrusion repair

No8 - Removing old section No 10 - Repair of extrusion spar No6 - Horizontal-line up

No7 - New piece made ready for hole flare No9 - Ready for spar extrusion repair No 17 - New piece in place for riveting

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No 12 - Nose rib in place No 15 - Form to fit inside of old damaged spar tip rib NO 78 - Hand form mg

No 73 - C1eco nose rib to spa r No 16 - 032 alclad ready to be clamped in form No 79 - Flanging spar tip

No 74 - Ready to repair rear spar No 77 - Form ready for hand bending jig for lightening holes No 20 - More of same 22

No 27 - Trim off excess flange No 24 - Test fit to spar No 27 - 032 alclad 2024 TJ

No 22 - Trim square to form No 25 - Fly cutting lightening holes No 28 - Spar tip ready for installation

No 23 - Remove from form No 26 - Flanging No 29 - Clecos test line up 23

The Babv Cessna

It was born in Wichita Kansas at the Cessna fac-shytory in 1929 Because of the stock market slump the Airplane manufacturing business fell off drasshytically To try and keep the plant in operation Eldon Cessna decided to design and build a light airplane that could be sold at a low price As a result the EC-1 was developed It was powered with a 25 hp Cleone engine

At the time I was enrolled at the Braley School of Flying which was located directly across the road to the east of the Cessna field I spent much of my spare time at the field watching the men work on and fly the Baby Cessna It was a fascinating little airplane

Early last year I was looking for a suitable airshyplane to model for a C02 Powered model airplane contest I remembered the Baby Cessna and thought it would be just what I wanted

In doing research for drawings and photos I found that photos of both the EC-1 and the EC-2 were available but no drawings I had a photo of the EC-1 that I had taken with my Brownie box camera The EC-2 looked cleaner with its design refinements and the Aeronca E-107 engine

I met Eldon Cessna at-an OX5 get-to-gether at the Santa Paula Airport and we discussed the EC-2 at length He informed me that plans had never been published The EC-2 (cn 253 N405W) was the last Baby Cessna built

From the photos and from memory of being around the Baby Cessna these plans for a model were drawn Imagine what a delightful fun airplane it would be for a homebuilt replica project today These specifications appeared in the 1930 issue of Air Age magazine

Baby Cessna EC-2 (cn253 N405W) 30 hp Aeronca E-707A

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Span 34 ft 11 in Wing area 163 sq ft Length overall 20 ft 4 in Height overall bull 5 ft 6 in Weights

Empty 470 Ibs Gross 925 Ibs

Gasoline capacity 8 gal Oil capacity 34 gal Power (Aeronca E-107A) 30 hp

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High speed 86 mph Cruising speed 70 mph Stalling speed 38 mph Climb first minute 740 ft Ceiling (service) 15000 ft Cruising range 200 miles

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1 I~rlII~llS Dear Sir

I am trying to get information on an aircraft that was built during the 20s called the Golden Eagle Chief It was a parasol wing powered by a radial engine type unshyknown Only about seven were built If any of your Antique classic division members know anything about this aircraft I would like to get in touch with them

I would like to take this opportunity to express what an outstanding organization I think the EAA is Ive only been a member for three years and only regret the years before I joined SPORT AVIATION is one of the best publications that I have ever read I have been to Oshkosh twice and to quite a few local fly-ins including Sun N Fun and have never seen anything more organized or better run I am looking forward to Oshkosh 78 and to continued membership in a fine organization

Sincerely james E Spradley (EAA 108947) PO Box 146 Rutledge Alabama 36071

Dear Mr Nielander Your editorial in the February issue of The Vinshy

tage Airplane is the best expression of the question of who is really qualified to maintain antique and classic aircraft (this applies equally well to some curshyrent aircraft such as the Bellanca Viking etc)

I submit the following recommendation as a way to offset some of the difficulties expressed in your excellent editorial to wit

The FAA should grant an A and E (or P) mechanics license to an individual who meets the following qualifications

(1) Passes three written examinations now required for the rating

(2) Passes the practical examination currently reshyquired

(3) Can show that he has actually done the major portion of the work in the restoration of an antique or classic airplane

You will note that the difference between these requirements and the current FAR part 65 requireshyments is the modification of sec 6577 which relates to on-the-job or schooling experience

From my own experience in restoring three airshyplanes (Luscombe Stinson Reliant Beechcraft B17L) I know that the amount of honest-to-God airplane and engine work in the usual restoration project is in exshycess of the stuff that the students in the approved

mechanic schools get Moreover during the 30 months practical experience referred to in FAR 6577 a lot of that time is spent just removing cowlings cleanshying sparkplugs changing tires sweeping floors pumpshying gas and plowing snow I guess what Im trying to do is build a case which shows that the antique classic restorer or homebuilder knows just as much about airplanes in general as does the individual who qualifies under the current provisions of FAR sec 6577

Very truly yours Thomas R Rench 1601 Circlewood Drive Racine Wisconsin 53402

Dear AI Perhaps I can shed a little light on the centershy

fold of the February issue of The Vintage Airplane The two planes pictured in the center of the page

are Top picture Wright Martin (Loening) M-8 Botshytom picture is an Ansaldo SVA-5 or SVA-9

The Loen ing was manufactured by the Wright Marshytin Corp and was built in 1921-1922 The factory deSignation was M-8

The Army Air Service designation was PW-2 PWshy2A and PW-2B Two of the PW-2 model were built in 1921 Gross weight was 2788 Ibs span 39 8 length 24 2 Ten of the PW-2A model were ordered by the Air Service but the order was cancelled after four were built in 1922 Gross weight was 2799 Ibs span 39 9 length 26 1

The PW2B was evaluated in 1922 but was never built Gross weight was to be 2976 Ibs span 34 1 length 23 4

PW-2 and PW-2A were powered by the Wright Martin H of 320 hp which was a Hisso built under license The PW2-B was to be powered by a 350 hp Packard engine

The Ansaldo can be either an SVA-5 or SVA-9 as the front view doesnt show whether it is a two place or single place The SVA-5 was single place while the SVA-9 was two place Both were powered by the Breda SPA-6A engine which was 6 cylinders and rated at 200 hp at 1600 rpm

I understand that there is an SVA-5 in a museum in Connecticut but I am not sure of this

Hope this information will be of some use to you Best regards H M Harkcom Harkcom Aircraft Service Rt 1 Inola Oklahoma

Dear AI In the February issue j R Nielander wrote an in shy

teresting editorial concerning the possibilities in the area of personal certification of antique aircraft by the owner restorer

Without blowing my own horn too loud I have worked with antiquers and others for the last 28 years doing what j R talks about signing off work for non-rated owners A lot of these people are really sharp and most do above average work and should be allowed to cut it on their own somehow

I think the key to this thing is for the FAA to set up a program whereby the interested antiquer could satisfy them that he is qualified to restore and mainshytain his antique This may not be as far away from FAA thinking as one might imagine as there has been talk around for some time at lower levels that the AampE ratings cover too much area for the average mechanic In other words the thinking in some areas of the FAA is that specialized ratings might be needed to have better qualified people in the field where needed If this thinking is still being kicked around in the FAA then the people in the antique field would fit into the thinking already floating around

A specialized rating for antiquers that covered about what was in old manual 18 would not be diffi shycult to qualify for I would favor two ratings along the lines of the AampP If an antiquer did not want to get into the mechanics of engines he could go after an airframe rating only If he wanted to be able to annual his antique then of course he would have to hold both tickets To satisfy the FARs and the inshysurance companies I think the antique rating apshyproach has good merit

I have talked to several antiquers not rated and they all said that they would be happy to work toshyward a limited type rating that would allow them unrestricted labor on their own aircraft They all feel that they should have this opportunity and I concur I have not always been happy to sign off work as an IA due to the fact that there is no such thing as direct supervision even if you are in the same room all the time Also I have seen the FAA just as uneasy mostly because they as a whole are far from qualified to judge most antiques

Well hope this fills a small gap in the ove rall picture If I can be of further help in any way please let me know

Sincerely Bob Younkin 55 Appleby Road Razorback Airport Fayetteville Arkansas 72701 26

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planes fighters up through transportw Brad Thomas JrNotice of Annual Business Meeting C-54sPilot Mountain North Carolina Today he holds a commercial licenseand Manufacturer with single and multi-engine land and Born in High Point North CarolinaElection of Officers and Directors instrument ratings and remains actively

Brad was educated at McCallie School flying with his Gyrocopter and VW powshyNotice is hereby given that an annual business Chattanooga Tennessee MIT Camshy ered Scamp both built by him a Moonshy

meeting of the members of the EAA AntiqueClassic bridge Massachusetts and High Point ey for travel and a D-17R Staggerwing Division will be held on Saturday August 5 1978 at College His flying career began at the He is currently Secretary of the Antique

age of 16 when he soloed and obtained1030 AM (Central Daylight Time) at the 26th Anshy Classic Division of EAA Oshkosh Conshynual Convention of the Experimental Aircraft Associashy his private license in 1938 The advent vention Classic Awards Chairman and tion Inc Wittman Field Oshkosh Wisconsin of World War II encouraged his enlistshy Chief Judge Secretary and Treasurer

Notice is hereby further given that the annual ment in the Army Air Corps as a pilot of EAA Chapter 8 Greensboro N C election of officers and directors of the EAA Antique He graduated from British Flying Trainshy Vice-President of EAA Antique ChapshyClassic Division will be conducted by ballot disshy ing School No5 Clewiston Florida with ter 3 and a member of their executive tributed to the members along with this June issue of both Air Corps and RAF wings was transshy committee Br-ad and his wife Ferne The Vintage Airplane Said ballot must be returned ferred to the 7th Ferry Group Air Transshy have five children of which one is an properly marked to the Ballot Tally Committee EAA port Command Great Falls Montana active oilot AntiqueClassic Division Box 229 Hales Corners where he ferried most types of Air Corps Wisconsin 53130 and received no later than August 3 1978

Ronald Fritz Chairman Nominating Committee

W Brad Thomas Jr Secretary the acquisition of his private pilot li shyEAA AntiqueClassic Division cense he immediately bought and reshy

stored his first airplane a 1946 Cessna AI Kelch 140 N72323 which had been used as Mequon Wisconsin a trainer at South Dayton Airport In

Manufacturer1953 he rebuilt and restored 1946 Cessna AI -started his own company in 1950 140 N73018 and flew it during the reshy

mainder of 1953 and 1954 During this The Kelch Corp which is now a conshysame period J R bought an extensively glomerate of 5 small manufacturing comshydamaged 1949 Cessna 170A N9730A and panies in the industrial plastic field completely rebuilt and restored it inshy AI s interest in airplanes goes back cluding splicing the parts of two fuseshy to his childhood in the 1920s when he

would sit on his fathers lap and fly iniages together to make one With the completion of the Cessna his uncles Jenny whenever the Jenny

170A in early 1955 he flew to Florida came to town barnstorming where he was hired as an AampP by the He is a lifetime member of EAA and

local Cessna distributor Sunny South AAA He was president of the WisconshyAircraft Service Later that same year sin Chapter of AAA for two terms and he joined Pan American World Airways a director of AntiqueClassic Division as a co-pilot flying Convair 240s Since of EAA for two terms He served as edishythen he has flown Douglas DC-4 6 7C tor of The Vintage Airplane magazine from

January 1976 until February 1978 8 Boeing 707 and 720 aircraft Besides J R Nielander Jr He currently owns and flies a 1939 his ATR and mechanic tickets he also Fort Lauderdale FL Piper J3 Cub which he completely re-Pan Am Pilot J R was elected vice-president of the

holds a flight navigator license stored in 1968 and a 1939 Franklin Sport

By the time he learned to fly at Lakeshy AntiqueClassic Division at its organizashy biplane which he restored in 1969 A wood Airpark Mount Healthy Ohio tional meeting on November 6 1971 1931 Travel Air 12Q will be flying this

summer and two American Eaglets and in 1951 J R had already completed He held that office until he was elected five years of university study as well president by the Board of Directors at an E2 Cub are his current restoration as one year of graduate school With their meeting on February 5 1976 projects

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Morton W Lester Martinsville Virginia Builder-Developer and Real Estate Investor

Morton is President of The Lester Corshyporation and Vice-President of Motor Imports Inc He is Executive Vice-Presishydent of the Virginia Aeronautical Hisshytorical Society and a board member of several other civic governmental busishyness and humanitarian organizations Morton was soloed by his father at the age of 10 in a Piper Cub He currently owns several prototype antiques such as the Ryan SCW Davis Low Wing Aeronca and Johnson Rocket His curshyrent ship is a civilian Howard DGA-15P He also owns a rare Travel Air 6000B which is currently undergoing restorashytion under the careful expertise of his cousin Pete Covington Morton is a Trustee of the EAA Air Museum Foundashytion and a past chairman of the Classic Judging Team of Oshkosh He is past president and current member of the executive committee of EAA Chapter 395 (NC Sc amp Va Antique Airplane Foundation) Morton and his wife Marshygaret have three children

M C Kelly Viets Stilwell Kansas Consulting Engineer Self-Employed

Kelly entered the consulting engineer field in 1938 and spent World War II designing airports and base facilities for the U S government He started his own firm Viets Consulting Engishyneers in 1954 He is a registered proshyfessional engineer and holds membershyship in numerous professional societies Kelly spent a lot of his younger days around Kansas City Municipal and Fairshyfax airports seeing Benny Howards Ike make its first flights the Travel Air Mystery Ship on the way to Cleveshyland all the early airliners etc He startshyed flight instruction in 1938 in a 55 hp Porterfield and finally got his ticket on the GI Bill in 1946 Kelly and his wife Edna own an Ercoupe and the two of them started and manage the Internashytional Ercoupe Association Their monthshyly newsletter goes out to over 550 Ershycoupe enthusiasts around the world Kelly also owns and is restoring the 14shy12 Bellanca that was used as the protoshytype for the 14-13 series He is a Director of EAAs Antique-Classic Division Kelly and Edna have 3 children

Art Morgan Milwaukee Wisconsin Oster Service Division

Art Morgan began flying in 1961 and received his private license in 1962 In 1965 he went on to get his commercial rating

He has been a member of EAA since 1962 and was parking airplanes at Rockshyford Illinois

Art was one of the first to start buildshying a KR-1 and although he did not complete his project he was instrumenshytal in the completion of two of the little birds

In 1974 he and his wife Kate purchased a 1939 Luscombe 8-C which he promptly rebuilt After two years of flying the Lusshycombe Art and several friends organshyized the American Luscombe Club

Art has served the EAA as a museum volunteer for several years as Classic parking chairman at Oshkosh and also as Antique-Classic parking chairman

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I Pioneer Northwest pilot Eclith Fol tz lVel 1 neltive of Dallas maiden name - 1agali She learned to I) in Portlaml Oregon Fel)(uar) of l)l8

l IJdrntormecl a long-wing Edglerock (OX-5) middotkCfuirec License 5nOO and lVas th e fifth US wOlllan to ohtain the Transport rlIing

J Barnstorming the Northwest - Pilot Greenwood in a Ryan Brougham and Edith in the OX-5 Eaglerock

4 Edith placed second in the light-plane division of the first Nashytional Womens Air Derby 1929 Santa Monica to Cleveland flying an Alexander Eaglerock Bullet (Kinner engine) Charter member of the 99s

5 May 1930 - Edith christening The Romer new five-passenger airplane manufactured by the National Aircraft Corp Beavershyton Oregon

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1 I Edith Stearns in structed Naval and Kingsv ille TX after WWII with Pauline Glasson Decease

Album m es of Edith Foltz Stearns ~ I enn Bu ff ington on of Co rp us Chr isti Texas fo r ( w ith us - also to I B Decker the photos)

ts in ins trum ent flying at Corpus Christi eel the 52 and 53 Powder Puff Derbies 956 ending a brillidnt flying career

Edith served as th e first Northwest Section Governor of the 99s - and she also w as Oregon Governor of the National Aeronautics Assn in the ea rl y ]Os She flew a Kinner Bird in the 3 7 and 32 derbies both from Sa nta Monica to Cleveland (4th in 3 7 and 2nd in 32 in th e women s division)

7 Edith and her son Richard Foltz age 6 in 793 7 a t Portland Oregon

8 7932 a t Cleveland Na tiona l Air Races (L to R) Vio la Gentry G ladys ODonn ell Florence Klingensmith Frank Phillips Edith Foltz Stearns and Frances Marsalis taken with Phillips Woolshyaroc Trophy Edith flew th e Bird to 2nd place in the Amelia Earhart Trophy Race (pylons) 1932 Klingesmith was first in a Monoco upe

9 Sk irts ~a flyin Edith Foltz Stea rns models one or her trade-marked FoIZLIp flying lOgs which eas il y converted to st reet wear - 7 932

I O Edith managed a new feeder airl in e a t Portshyland dnd taught prim ary CPT at Salem prior to WWII - se rved in En g land as a Firs t Officer in the Air Tran sport Aux iliary here in uniform

(Fred Chew photo)

Bills Cessna 140 slips through a quick left turn in a test of-rhe new splas h rails

A Harbor for Classics By David Gustafson Editor

Some fo lks would argue that Bali Hi is a mythical Island out in the South Pacific where the best in life is an everyday affair There are a few peoplehowshyever who would be inclined to suggest that the protoshytype model for Bali Hi can be found on the Southshyeast corner of Stafford Pond in Westport Masshysachusetts Thats where Bill Walsh lives What makes it special Well hes got several acres of land in the secluded inlet of a clear lake He doesn t have palm trees though his Norwegian pines give the same effect on a warm and breezy summer night To improve the natural scene Bill put in a dock laid down some railroad track for a movable ramp that can be winched right into the hangar he erected 200

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feet from the water Naturally there has to be someshything to place in the hangar so Bills lined the walls with tools and bending brakes The space thats left is reserved for his Cessna 140 Floatplane and the Aeronca Sedan hes rebuilding so he can be a twoshyfloatplane family

The Cessna 140 was built in 1948 and sent directly from Wichita to Sea Wings of Connecticut for conshyversion to floats It was then sold with floats and wheels With the stock Continental 85 horsepower engine the plane was marginal as a hot day aquatic performer Getting off the surf with two husky adults when its over 75 degrees out is a groaning process Some of the problem relates to the high speed airshy

foil that works nicely in cruise but does little to generate the kind of take-off lift you get in someshything like a Cub or Champ Even as a ground plane the Cessna requires a long take-off roll

Once airborne however the 140 levels off to a respectable 90 mph with a corkscrew that measures a wide 76 x 38 Bill s hoping to swap the C-85 someday for an 0-200 so he can take up so me of his fat friends in the mint julip season

As fa r as skidding around the pond Bill reports theres very little difference between the 140 and comshyparably sized float planes Of course the take-off runs lon ge r but once airborne (40-45 mph ) it climb s well and flies with much greater stability than a

land model The floats give it a big plane feeling says Bill

Stalls with a floating 140 are similar to the land configuration and intentional spins are strictly verbotten

When Bill bought the plane in 1963 it was on the floats but he couldnt get it off the water The floats leaked Experimentation revealed that the keel opened up on a take-off run so they were replaced Later he added spray rails which eliminated the center wake and brought the plane up onto the step quicker

In the wintertime the floats are replaced with skis and Bill goes out to race the ice boats Between

he floats and the skis the wheels havent been on the 140 for several years now When he wants to bounce around a paved runway he heads off to Fall River Airport haul s out a 170-B (of which he owns 1115th) and renews his acquaintance with toe brakes and squealing rubber

Like a growing number of people in EAA Bill divides his time between flying one project and tinkershying with another Hes lucky enough to have an Aeronca 15 AC Sedan as that other project He picked it up a couple years ago at a price that would take the wind out of some people Ask anyone who knows Bill or his close friend Fred Chew and theyll tell you that those two guys deserve a special suit that says SUPER-SCROUNGERS across the chest They have uncanny talents at picking up materials for nothing or next to it More than once in recent history theyve plucked chicken feathers out of an old Continental or Lycoming that was retrieved from the dark corner of a barn for around $100 (Actually Bills just finished a two-year term as President of EAA Chapter 51 in Middletown Rhode Island and Freds still the Chapter Designee - they have both done an excellent job)

When the opportunity arose they dickered and diddled and sang the song of a snake charmer until they could come home with a smile and that particular Sedan

Naturally the plane needed a little work The previous owner had argued with a pine tree The tree not only won but took the left wing as a prize The Aeronca was apparently so shocked by the action that it pulled back and stood up on the right wing as if to say I beg your pardon When things got back to level the right tip was mashed

How many times do you suppose guys like Bill and Fred have set out to unbend a wing but wound

(Fred Chew photo)

Off and flying the 140 is a marginal performer on hot days with a full load

(Fred Chew photo)

This Cessna 140 has been a regular feature in Bills back- yard for 15 years

up rebuilding the entire machine You can add their names to the list

One thing Bill quickly points out is that he and Fred are not engaged in a full-scale down-to-theshylast-screw restoration project Nope When it flies again i t will still be clearly recognizable as an Aeronca Sedan but there are some (approved ) changes in store Most obvious is the addition of brackets for float struts A presto-change-o routine with a few bolts will convert the plane from land to sea or vice versa

Conveniently it so happened that the greatest crash damage occurred on the left side Fred happily ripped out the bent tubes bent a few new ones and followed the STC cookbook for installing a left side door that opens upwards to the wing Its an approved mod for a seaplane configuration

(David Gustafson photo) Progress in the rebuild ing effort is evi shydent in this shot o f th e Sedan th e left wing attachment has been repaired the fusel age has been blas ted and primed the new left door frame is complete and a new headlin er s being installed

(Fred Chew photo) after abrupt removshy

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Each of the large metal wings originally contained 20 gallon rubber gas bladders (say that three times) and both leaked after the crash Replacement cost was $700 apiece so the wing panels were torn off and Fred bent up a couple of metal tanks that are larger than the originals Between the tanks and the twisted metal from the crash Fred figures hes disshymantled at least 80 per cent of the wings and replaced 50 per cent of the total materials Included are a number of ribs shaped by hand on wooden formers which were also hand etched from the pieces bound for the junk heap That translates into a lot of aluminum the wing span is 376 with a chord in excess of 5 feet which produces 200 square feet of wing area In the end Fred will be able to reproduce any curved part of the Sedans wing and yes he plans to come up with quotes for others needing help (write Fred Chew 158 Meridian Street Fall River Massach usetts 02720)

With the Clark Y airfoil and a Continental 145 horsepower engine the Sedan leaps off the ground almost as fast as a two-place Cub When you turn it into a Seadan by adding a couple EDO 2000s it breaks surf suction with a simple hop skip and a slurping leap The only drawback is that with the 2000s you cant hop unless there are only two people on board With four people and full tanks the floats become submarines As a result the two resourceful metal benders who plan to build their own floats are giving serious thought to making something bigshyger

(David Gustafson photo)

Detail of the float attachment fitting

Bills Aeronca was built in 1948 and like most classics its alread~ changed hands a few times Dr Paul Nussbaum was the first to drop mud on the carpets in 49 John Ru sh moved it from Missouri to Ohio ten years later After another decade a pair of partners in Pennsylvania flew it for awhile and then left it with another partnership in New York Gerry Broskin and Harris Gordon revamped the panel and went IFR Soon after that it became the answer to a dream for Ron and Diane Rissone in Randolph Massachusetts But then there was this pine tree That brings the odyssey of N1365H to Bill Walsh hangar and private seaplane base

The next time Bills Sedan sees another runway itll obviously be sporting rebuilt wings and new float brackets in addition there ll be a new windshield all new woodwork new ceconite new headliner new used back seats (from a Tri-Pacer yet) a new panel (still IFR) and discussion has already started about a total engine overhaul

Theres one other new item in the works for the Sedan When its checked out on its wheels again there ll be a streamlined gas tank nestled in the gear bay You see Bill and Fred have promised themselves this extended tour of South America once they finish

Then the Sedan will bob in the harbor beside the Cessna and Bill can wrestle with the question which one do I fly today

(David Gustafson photo)

Fred Chew holds up the new tip hes built for the right wing

(David Gustafson photo)

Bill Walsh displys the seaplane door thats being installed on the left side of th e Sedan

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Restoration Tips a photo essay provided by

Fred Chew 158 Meridian St

Fall River Mass 02720

(Note Freds kept an exce llent photo record of the process of rebuilding the wings for Bill Walshs Aeronca Sedan It gives a good idea of how to do it and how much works involved)

No2 - Teardown reveals the damage No4 - Line up new to old

No 1 - Last step before rebuilding

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Aeronca Sedan spar repair 7976 (Right wing) No5 - Extrusion repair

No8 - Removing old section No 10 - Repair of extrusion spar No6 - Horizontal-line up

No7 - New piece made ready for hole flare No9 - Ready for spar extrusion repair No 17 - New piece in place for riveting

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No 12 - Nose rib in place No 15 - Form to fit inside of old damaged spar tip rib NO 78 - Hand form mg

No 73 - C1eco nose rib to spa r No 16 - 032 alclad ready to be clamped in form No 79 - Flanging spar tip

No 74 - Ready to repair rear spar No 77 - Form ready for hand bending jig for lightening holes No 20 - More of same 22

No 27 - Trim off excess flange No 24 - Test fit to spar No 27 - 032 alclad 2024 TJ

No 22 - Trim square to form No 25 - Fly cutting lightening holes No 28 - Spar tip ready for installation

No 23 - Remove from form No 26 - Flanging No 29 - Clecos test line up 23

The Babv Cessna

It was born in Wichita Kansas at the Cessna fac-shytory in 1929 Because of the stock market slump the Airplane manufacturing business fell off drasshytically To try and keep the plant in operation Eldon Cessna decided to design and build a light airplane that could be sold at a low price As a result the EC-1 was developed It was powered with a 25 hp Cleone engine

At the time I was enrolled at the Braley School of Flying which was located directly across the road to the east of the Cessna field I spent much of my spare time at the field watching the men work on and fly the Baby Cessna It was a fascinating little airplane

Early last year I was looking for a suitable airshyplane to model for a C02 Powered model airplane contest I remembered the Baby Cessna and thought it would be just what I wanted

In doing research for drawings and photos I found that photos of both the EC-1 and the EC-2 were available but no drawings I had a photo of the EC-1 that I had taken with my Brownie box camera The EC-2 looked cleaner with its design refinements and the Aeronca E-107 engine

I met Eldon Cessna at-an OX5 get-to-gether at the Santa Paula Airport and we discussed the EC-2 at length He informed me that plans had never been published The EC-2 (cn 253 N405W) was the last Baby Cessna built

From the photos and from memory of being around the Baby Cessna these plans for a model were drawn Imagine what a delightful fun airplane it would be for a homebuilt replica project today These specifications appeared in the 1930 issue of Air Age magazine

Baby Cessna EC-2 (cn253 N405W) 30 hp Aeronca E-707A

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High speed 86 mph Cruising speed 70 mph Stalling speed 38 mph Climb first minute 740 ft Ceiling (service) 15000 ft Cruising range 200 miles

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1 I~rlII~llS Dear Sir

I am trying to get information on an aircraft that was built during the 20s called the Golden Eagle Chief It was a parasol wing powered by a radial engine type unshyknown Only about seven were built If any of your Antique classic division members know anything about this aircraft I would like to get in touch with them

I would like to take this opportunity to express what an outstanding organization I think the EAA is Ive only been a member for three years and only regret the years before I joined SPORT AVIATION is one of the best publications that I have ever read I have been to Oshkosh twice and to quite a few local fly-ins including Sun N Fun and have never seen anything more organized or better run I am looking forward to Oshkosh 78 and to continued membership in a fine organization

Sincerely james E Spradley (EAA 108947) PO Box 146 Rutledge Alabama 36071

Dear Mr Nielander Your editorial in the February issue of The Vinshy

tage Airplane is the best expression of the question of who is really qualified to maintain antique and classic aircraft (this applies equally well to some curshyrent aircraft such as the Bellanca Viking etc)

I submit the following recommendation as a way to offset some of the difficulties expressed in your excellent editorial to wit

The FAA should grant an A and E (or P) mechanics license to an individual who meets the following qualifications

(1) Passes three written examinations now required for the rating

(2) Passes the practical examination currently reshyquired

(3) Can show that he has actually done the major portion of the work in the restoration of an antique or classic airplane

You will note that the difference between these requirements and the current FAR part 65 requireshyments is the modification of sec 6577 which relates to on-the-job or schooling experience

From my own experience in restoring three airshyplanes (Luscombe Stinson Reliant Beechcraft B17L) I know that the amount of honest-to-God airplane and engine work in the usual restoration project is in exshycess of the stuff that the students in the approved

mechanic schools get Moreover during the 30 months practical experience referred to in FAR 6577 a lot of that time is spent just removing cowlings cleanshying sparkplugs changing tires sweeping floors pumpshying gas and plowing snow I guess what Im trying to do is build a case which shows that the antique classic restorer or homebuilder knows just as much about airplanes in general as does the individual who qualifies under the current provisions of FAR sec 6577

Very truly yours Thomas R Rench 1601 Circlewood Drive Racine Wisconsin 53402

Dear AI Perhaps I can shed a little light on the centershy

fold of the February issue of The Vintage Airplane The two planes pictured in the center of the page

are Top picture Wright Martin (Loening) M-8 Botshytom picture is an Ansaldo SVA-5 or SVA-9

The Loen ing was manufactured by the Wright Marshytin Corp and was built in 1921-1922 The factory deSignation was M-8

The Army Air Service designation was PW-2 PWshy2A and PW-2B Two of the PW-2 model were built in 1921 Gross weight was 2788 Ibs span 39 8 length 24 2 Ten of the PW-2A model were ordered by the Air Service but the order was cancelled after four were built in 1922 Gross weight was 2799 Ibs span 39 9 length 26 1

The PW2B was evaluated in 1922 but was never built Gross weight was to be 2976 Ibs span 34 1 length 23 4

PW-2 and PW-2A were powered by the Wright Martin H of 320 hp which was a Hisso built under license The PW2-B was to be powered by a 350 hp Packard engine

The Ansaldo can be either an SVA-5 or SVA-9 as the front view doesnt show whether it is a two place or single place The SVA-5 was single place while the SVA-9 was two place Both were powered by the Breda SPA-6A engine which was 6 cylinders and rated at 200 hp at 1600 rpm

I understand that there is an SVA-5 in a museum in Connecticut but I am not sure of this

Hope this information will be of some use to you Best regards H M Harkcom Harkcom Aircraft Service Rt 1 Inola Oklahoma

Dear AI In the February issue j R Nielander wrote an in shy

teresting editorial concerning the possibilities in the area of personal certification of antique aircraft by the owner restorer

Without blowing my own horn too loud I have worked with antiquers and others for the last 28 years doing what j R talks about signing off work for non-rated owners A lot of these people are really sharp and most do above average work and should be allowed to cut it on their own somehow

I think the key to this thing is for the FAA to set up a program whereby the interested antiquer could satisfy them that he is qualified to restore and mainshytain his antique This may not be as far away from FAA thinking as one might imagine as there has been talk around for some time at lower levels that the AampE ratings cover too much area for the average mechanic In other words the thinking in some areas of the FAA is that specialized ratings might be needed to have better qualified people in the field where needed If this thinking is still being kicked around in the FAA then the people in the antique field would fit into the thinking already floating around

A specialized rating for antiquers that covered about what was in old manual 18 would not be diffi shycult to qualify for I would favor two ratings along the lines of the AampP If an antiquer did not want to get into the mechanics of engines he could go after an airframe rating only If he wanted to be able to annual his antique then of course he would have to hold both tickets To satisfy the FARs and the inshysurance companies I think the antique rating apshyproach has good merit

I have talked to several antiquers not rated and they all said that they would be happy to work toshyward a limited type rating that would allow them unrestricted labor on their own aircraft They all feel that they should have this opportunity and I concur I have not always been happy to sign off work as an IA due to the fact that there is no such thing as direct supervision even if you are in the same room all the time Also I have seen the FAA just as uneasy mostly because they as a whole are far from qualified to judge most antiques

Well hope this fills a small gap in the ove rall picture If I can be of further help in any way please let me know

Sincerely Bob Younkin 55 Appleby Road Razorback Airport Fayetteville Arkansas 72701 26

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Morton W Lester Martinsville Virginia Builder-Developer and Real Estate Investor

Morton is President of The Lester Corshyporation and Vice-President of Motor Imports Inc He is Executive Vice-Presishydent of the Virginia Aeronautical Hisshytorical Society and a board member of several other civic governmental busishyness and humanitarian organizations Morton was soloed by his father at the age of 10 in a Piper Cub He currently owns several prototype antiques such as the Ryan SCW Davis Low Wing Aeronca and Johnson Rocket His curshyrent ship is a civilian Howard DGA-15P He also owns a rare Travel Air 6000B which is currently undergoing restorashytion under the careful expertise of his cousin Pete Covington Morton is a Trustee of the EAA Air Museum Foundashytion and a past chairman of the Classic Judging Team of Oshkosh He is past president and current member of the executive committee of EAA Chapter 395 (NC Sc amp Va Antique Airplane Foundation) Morton and his wife Marshygaret have three children

M C Kelly Viets Stilwell Kansas Consulting Engineer Self-Employed

Kelly entered the consulting engineer field in 1938 and spent World War II designing airports and base facilities for the U S government He started his own firm Viets Consulting Engishyneers in 1954 He is a registered proshyfessional engineer and holds membershyship in numerous professional societies Kelly spent a lot of his younger days around Kansas City Municipal and Fairshyfax airports seeing Benny Howards Ike make its first flights the Travel Air Mystery Ship on the way to Cleveshyland all the early airliners etc He startshyed flight instruction in 1938 in a 55 hp Porterfield and finally got his ticket on the GI Bill in 1946 Kelly and his wife Edna own an Ercoupe and the two of them started and manage the Internashytional Ercoupe Association Their monthshyly newsletter goes out to over 550 Ershycoupe enthusiasts around the world Kelly also owns and is restoring the 14shy12 Bellanca that was used as the protoshytype for the 14-13 series He is a Director of EAAs Antique-Classic Division Kelly and Edna have 3 children

Art Morgan Milwaukee Wisconsin Oster Service Division

Art Morgan began flying in 1961 and received his private license in 1962 In 1965 he went on to get his commercial rating

He has been a member of EAA since 1962 and was parking airplanes at Rockshyford Illinois

Art was one of the first to start buildshying a KR-1 and although he did not complete his project he was instrumenshytal in the completion of two of the little birds

In 1974 he and his wife Kate purchased a 1939 Luscombe 8-C which he promptly rebuilt After two years of flying the Lusshycombe Art and several friends organshyized the American Luscombe Club

Art has served the EAA as a museum volunteer for several years as Classic parking chairman at Oshkosh and also as Antique-Classic parking chairman

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I Pioneer Northwest pilot Eclith Fol tz lVel 1 neltive of Dallas maiden name - 1agali She learned to I) in Portlaml Oregon Fel)(uar) of l)l8

l IJdrntormecl a long-wing Edglerock (OX-5) middotkCfuirec License 5nOO and lVas th e fifth US wOlllan to ohtain the Transport rlIing

J Barnstorming the Northwest - Pilot Greenwood in a Ryan Brougham and Edith in the OX-5 Eaglerock

4 Edith placed second in the light-plane division of the first Nashytional Womens Air Derby 1929 Santa Monica to Cleveland flying an Alexander Eaglerock Bullet (Kinner engine) Charter member of the 99s

5 May 1930 - Edith christening The Romer new five-passenger airplane manufactured by the National Aircraft Corp Beavershyton Oregon

Vintag The Flying life

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1 I Edith Stearns in structed Naval and Kingsv ille TX after WWII with Pauline Glasson Decease

Album m es of Edith Foltz Stearns ~ I enn Bu ff ington on of Co rp us Chr isti Texas fo r ( w ith us - also to I B Decker the photos)

ts in ins trum ent flying at Corpus Christi eel the 52 and 53 Powder Puff Derbies 956 ending a brillidnt flying career

Edith served as th e first Northwest Section Governor of the 99s - and she also w as Oregon Governor of the National Aeronautics Assn in the ea rl y ]Os She flew a Kinner Bird in the 3 7 and 32 derbies both from Sa nta Monica to Cleveland (4th in 3 7 and 2nd in 32 in th e women s division)

7 Edith and her son Richard Foltz age 6 in 793 7 a t Portland Oregon

8 7932 a t Cleveland Na tiona l Air Races (L to R) Vio la Gentry G ladys ODonn ell Florence Klingensmith Frank Phillips Edith Foltz Stearns and Frances Marsalis taken with Phillips Woolshyaroc Trophy Edith flew th e Bird to 2nd place in the Amelia Earhart Trophy Race (pylons) 1932 Klingesmith was first in a Monoco upe

9 Sk irts ~a flyin Edith Foltz Stea rns models one or her trade-marked FoIZLIp flying lOgs which eas il y converted to st reet wear - 7 932

I O Edith managed a new feeder airl in e a t Portshyland dnd taught prim ary CPT at Salem prior to WWII - se rved in En g land as a Firs t Officer in the Air Tran sport Aux iliary here in uniform

(Fred Chew photo)

Bills Cessna 140 slips through a quick left turn in a test of-rhe new splas h rails

A Harbor for Classics By David Gustafson Editor

Some fo lks would argue that Bali Hi is a mythical Island out in the South Pacific where the best in life is an everyday affair There are a few peoplehowshyever who would be inclined to suggest that the protoshytype model for Bali Hi can be found on the Southshyeast corner of Stafford Pond in Westport Masshysachusetts Thats where Bill Walsh lives What makes it special Well hes got several acres of land in the secluded inlet of a clear lake He doesn t have palm trees though his Norwegian pines give the same effect on a warm and breezy summer night To improve the natural scene Bill put in a dock laid down some railroad track for a movable ramp that can be winched right into the hangar he erected 200

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feet from the water Naturally there has to be someshything to place in the hangar so Bills lined the walls with tools and bending brakes The space thats left is reserved for his Cessna 140 Floatplane and the Aeronca Sedan hes rebuilding so he can be a twoshyfloatplane family

The Cessna 140 was built in 1948 and sent directly from Wichita to Sea Wings of Connecticut for conshyversion to floats It was then sold with floats and wheels With the stock Continental 85 horsepower engine the plane was marginal as a hot day aquatic performer Getting off the surf with two husky adults when its over 75 degrees out is a groaning process Some of the problem relates to the high speed airshy

foil that works nicely in cruise but does little to generate the kind of take-off lift you get in someshything like a Cub or Champ Even as a ground plane the Cessna requires a long take-off roll

Once airborne however the 140 levels off to a respectable 90 mph with a corkscrew that measures a wide 76 x 38 Bill s hoping to swap the C-85 someday for an 0-200 so he can take up so me of his fat friends in the mint julip season

As fa r as skidding around the pond Bill reports theres very little difference between the 140 and comshyparably sized float planes Of course the take-off runs lon ge r but once airborne (40-45 mph ) it climb s well and flies with much greater stability than a

land model The floats give it a big plane feeling says Bill

Stalls with a floating 140 are similar to the land configuration and intentional spins are strictly verbotten

When Bill bought the plane in 1963 it was on the floats but he couldnt get it off the water The floats leaked Experimentation revealed that the keel opened up on a take-off run so they were replaced Later he added spray rails which eliminated the center wake and brought the plane up onto the step quicker

In the wintertime the floats are replaced with skis and Bill goes out to race the ice boats Between

he floats and the skis the wheels havent been on the 140 for several years now When he wants to bounce around a paved runway he heads off to Fall River Airport haul s out a 170-B (of which he owns 1115th) and renews his acquaintance with toe brakes and squealing rubber

Like a growing number of people in EAA Bill divides his time between flying one project and tinkershying with another Hes lucky enough to have an Aeronca 15 AC Sedan as that other project He picked it up a couple years ago at a price that would take the wind out of some people Ask anyone who knows Bill or his close friend Fred Chew and theyll tell you that those two guys deserve a special suit that says SUPER-SCROUNGERS across the chest They have uncanny talents at picking up materials for nothing or next to it More than once in recent history theyve plucked chicken feathers out of an old Continental or Lycoming that was retrieved from the dark corner of a barn for around $100 (Actually Bills just finished a two-year term as President of EAA Chapter 51 in Middletown Rhode Island and Freds still the Chapter Designee - they have both done an excellent job)

When the opportunity arose they dickered and diddled and sang the song of a snake charmer until they could come home with a smile and that particular Sedan

Naturally the plane needed a little work The previous owner had argued with a pine tree The tree not only won but took the left wing as a prize The Aeronca was apparently so shocked by the action that it pulled back and stood up on the right wing as if to say I beg your pardon When things got back to level the right tip was mashed

How many times do you suppose guys like Bill and Fred have set out to unbend a wing but wound

(Fred Chew photo)

Off and flying the 140 is a marginal performer on hot days with a full load

(Fred Chew photo)

This Cessna 140 has been a regular feature in Bills back- yard for 15 years

up rebuilding the entire machine You can add their names to the list

One thing Bill quickly points out is that he and Fred are not engaged in a full-scale down-to-theshylast-screw restoration project Nope When it flies again i t will still be clearly recognizable as an Aeronca Sedan but there are some (approved ) changes in store Most obvious is the addition of brackets for float struts A presto-change-o routine with a few bolts will convert the plane from land to sea or vice versa

Conveniently it so happened that the greatest crash damage occurred on the left side Fred happily ripped out the bent tubes bent a few new ones and followed the STC cookbook for installing a left side door that opens upwards to the wing Its an approved mod for a seaplane configuration

(David Gustafson photo) Progress in the rebuild ing effort is evi shydent in this shot o f th e Sedan th e left wing attachment has been repaired the fusel age has been blas ted and primed the new left door frame is complete and a new headlin er s being installed

(Fred Chew photo) after abrupt removshy

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Each of the large metal wings originally contained 20 gallon rubber gas bladders (say that three times) and both leaked after the crash Replacement cost was $700 apiece so the wing panels were torn off and Fred bent up a couple of metal tanks that are larger than the originals Between the tanks and the twisted metal from the crash Fred figures hes disshymantled at least 80 per cent of the wings and replaced 50 per cent of the total materials Included are a number of ribs shaped by hand on wooden formers which were also hand etched from the pieces bound for the junk heap That translates into a lot of aluminum the wing span is 376 with a chord in excess of 5 feet which produces 200 square feet of wing area In the end Fred will be able to reproduce any curved part of the Sedans wing and yes he plans to come up with quotes for others needing help (write Fred Chew 158 Meridian Street Fall River Massach usetts 02720)

With the Clark Y airfoil and a Continental 145 horsepower engine the Sedan leaps off the ground almost as fast as a two-place Cub When you turn it into a Seadan by adding a couple EDO 2000s it breaks surf suction with a simple hop skip and a slurping leap The only drawback is that with the 2000s you cant hop unless there are only two people on board With four people and full tanks the floats become submarines As a result the two resourceful metal benders who plan to build their own floats are giving serious thought to making something bigshyger

(David Gustafson photo)

Detail of the float attachment fitting

Bills Aeronca was built in 1948 and like most classics its alread~ changed hands a few times Dr Paul Nussbaum was the first to drop mud on the carpets in 49 John Ru sh moved it from Missouri to Ohio ten years later After another decade a pair of partners in Pennsylvania flew it for awhile and then left it with another partnership in New York Gerry Broskin and Harris Gordon revamped the panel and went IFR Soon after that it became the answer to a dream for Ron and Diane Rissone in Randolph Massachusetts But then there was this pine tree That brings the odyssey of N1365H to Bill Walsh hangar and private seaplane base

The next time Bills Sedan sees another runway itll obviously be sporting rebuilt wings and new float brackets in addition there ll be a new windshield all new woodwork new ceconite new headliner new used back seats (from a Tri-Pacer yet) a new panel (still IFR) and discussion has already started about a total engine overhaul

Theres one other new item in the works for the Sedan When its checked out on its wheels again there ll be a streamlined gas tank nestled in the gear bay You see Bill and Fred have promised themselves this extended tour of South America once they finish

Then the Sedan will bob in the harbor beside the Cessna and Bill can wrestle with the question which one do I fly today

(David Gustafson photo)

Fred Chew holds up the new tip hes built for the right wing

(David Gustafson photo)

Bill Walsh displys the seaplane door thats being installed on the left side of th e Sedan

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Restoration Tips a photo essay provided by

Fred Chew 158 Meridian St

Fall River Mass 02720

(Note Freds kept an exce llent photo record of the process of rebuilding the wings for Bill Walshs Aeronca Sedan It gives a good idea of how to do it and how much works involved)

No2 - Teardown reveals the damage No4 - Line up new to old

No 1 - Last step before rebuilding

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Aeronca Sedan spar repair 7976 (Right wing) No5 - Extrusion repair

No8 - Removing old section No 10 - Repair of extrusion spar No6 - Horizontal-line up

No7 - New piece made ready for hole flare No9 - Ready for spar extrusion repair No 17 - New piece in place for riveting

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No 12 - Nose rib in place No 15 - Form to fit inside of old damaged spar tip rib NO 78 - Hand form mg

No 73 - C1eco nose rib to spa r No 16 - 032 alclad ready to be clamped in form No 79 - Flanging spar tip

No 74 - Ready to repair rear spar No 77 - Form ready for hand bending jig for lightening holes No 20 - More of same 22

No 27 - Trim off excess flange No 24 - Test fit to spar No 27 - 032 alclad 2024 TJ

No 22 - Trim square to form No 25 - Fly cutting lightening holes No 28 - Spar tip ready for installation

No 23 - Remove from form No 26 - Flanging No 29 - Clecos test line up 23

The Babv Cessna

It was born in Wichita Kansas at the Cessna fac-shytory in 1929 Because of the stock market slump the Airplane manufacturing business fell off drasshytically To try and keep the plant in operation Eldon Cessna decided to design and build a light airplane that could be sold at a low price As a result the EC-1 was developed It was powered with a 25 hp Cleone engine

At the time I was enrolled at the Braley School of Flying which was located directly across the road to the east of the Cessna field I spent much of my spare time at the field watching the men work on and fly the Baby Cessna It was a fascinating little airplane

Early last year I was looking for a suitable airshyplane to model for a C02 Powered model airplane contest I remembered the Baby Cessna and thought it would be just what I wanted

In doing research for drawings and photos I found that photos of both the EC-1 and the EC-2 were available but no drawings I had a photo of the EC-1 that I had taken with my Brownie box camera The EC-2 looked cleaner with its design refinements and the Aeronca E-107 engine

I met Eldon Cessna at-an OX5 get-to-gether at the Santa Paula Airport and we discussed the EC-2 at length He informed me that plans had never been published The EC-2 (cn 253 N405W) was the last Baby Cessna built

From the photos and from memory of being around the Baby Cessna these plans for a model were drawn Imagine what a delightful fun airplane it would be for a homebuilt replica project today These specifications appeared in the 1930 issue of Air Age magazine

Baby Cessna EC-2 (cn253 N405W) 30 hp Aeronca E-707A

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Empty 470 Ibs Gross 925 Ibs

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High speed 86 mph Cruising speed 70 mph Stalling speed 38 mph Climb first minute 740 ft Ceiling (service) 15000 ft Cruising range 200 miles

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1 I~rlII~llS Dear Sir

I am trying to get information on an aircraft that was built during the 20s called the Golden Eagle Chief It was a parasol wing powered by a radial engine type unshyknown Only about seven were built If any of your Antique classic division members know anything about this aircraft I would like to get in touch with them

I would like to take this opportunity to express what an outstanding organization I think the EAA is Ive only been a member for three years and only regret the years before I joined SPORT AVIATION is one of the best publications that I have ever read I have been to Oshkosh twice and to quite a few local fly-ins including Sun N Fun and have never seen anything more organized or better run I am looking forward to Oshkosh 78 and to continued membership in a fine organization

Sincerely james E Spradley (EAA 108947) PO Box 146 Rutledge Alabama 36071

Dear Mr Nielander Your editorial in the February issue of The Vinshy

tage Airplane is the best expression of the question of who is really qualified to maintain antique and classic aircraft (this applies equally well to some curshyrent aircraft such as the Bellanca Viking etc)

I submit the following recommendation as a way to offset some of the difficulties expressed in your excellent editorial to wit

The FAA should grant an A and E (or P) mechanics license to an individual who meets the following qualifications

(1) Passes three written examinations now required for the rating

(2) Passes the practical examination currently reshyquired

(3) Can show that he has actually done the major portion of the work in the restoration of an antique or classic airplane

You will note that the difference between these requirements and the current FAR part 65 requireshyments is the modification of sec 6577 which relates to on-the-job or schooling experience

From my own experience in restoring three airshyplanes (Luscombe Stinson Reliant Beechcraft B17L) I know that the amount of honest-to-God airplane and engine work in the usual restoration project is in exshycess of the stuff that the students in the approved

mechanic schools get Moreover during the 30 months practical experience referred to in FAR 6577 a lot of that time is spent just removing cowlings cleanshying sparkplugs changing tires sweeping floors pumpshying gas and plowing snow I guess what Im trying to do is build a case which shows that the antique classic restorer or homebuilder knows just as much about airplanes in general as does the individual who qualifies under the current provisions of FAR sec 6577

Very truly yours Thomas R Rench 1601 Circlewood Drive Racine Wisconsin 53402

Dear AI Perhaps I can shed a little light on the centershy

fold of the February issue of The Vintage Airplane The two planes pictured in the center of the page

are Top picture Wright Martin (Loening) M-8 Botshytom picture is an Ansaldo SVA-5 or SVA-9

The Loen ing was manufactured by the Wright Marshytin Corp and was built in 1921-1922 The factory deSignation was M-8

The Army Air Service designation was PW-2 PWshy2A and PW-2B Two of the PW-2 model were built in 1921 Gross weight was 2788 Ibs span 39 8 length 24 2 Ten of the PW-2A model were ordered by the Air Service but the order was cancelled after four were built in 1922 Gross weight was 2799 Ibs span 39 9 length 26 1

The PW2B was evaluated in 1922 but was never built Gross weight was to be 2976 Ibs span 34 1 length 23 4

PW-2 and PW-2A were powered by the Wright Martin H of 320 hp which was a Hisso built under license The PW2-B was to be powered by a 350 hp Packard engine

The Ansaldo can be either an SVA-5 or SVA-9 as the front view doesnt show whether it is a two place or single place The SVA-5 was single place while the SVA-9 was two place Both were powered by the Breda SPA-6A engine which was 6 cylinders and rated at 200 hp at 1600 rpm

I understand that there is an SVA-5 in a museum in Connecticut but I am not sure of this

Hope this information will be of some use to you Best regards H M Harkcom Harkcom Aircraft Service Rt 1 Inola Oklahoma

Dear AI In the February issue j R Nielander wrote an in shy

teresting editorial concerning the possibilities in the area of personal certification of antique aircraft by the owner restorer

Without blowing my own horn too loud I have worked with antiquers and others for the last 28 years doing what j R talks about signing off work for non-rated owners A lot of these people are really sharp and most do above average work and should be allowed to cut it on their own somehow

I think the key to this thing is for the FAA to set up a program whereby the interested antiquer could satisfy them that he is qualified to restore and mainshytain his antique This may not be as far away from FAA thinking as one might imagine as there has been talk around for some time at lower levels that the AampE ratings cover too much area for the average mechanic In other words the thinking in some areas of the FAA is that specialized ratings might be needed to have better qualified people in the field where needed If this thinking is still being kicked around in the FAA then the people in the antique field would fit into the thinking already floating around

A specialized rating for antiquers that covered about what was in old manual 18 would not be diffi shycult to qualify for I would favor two ratings along the lines of the AampP If an antiquer did not want to get into the mechanics of engines he could go after an airframe rating only If he wanted to be able to annual his antique then of course he would have to hold both tickets To satisfy the FARs and the inshysurance companies I think the antique rating apshyproach has good merit

I have talked to several antiquers not rated and they all said that they would be happy to work toshyward a limited type rating that would allow them unrestricted labor on their own aircraft They all feel that they should have this opportunity and I concur I have not always been happy to sign off work as an IA due to the fact that there is no such thing as direct supervision even if you are in the same room all the time Also I have seen the FAA just as uneasy mostly because they as a whole are far from qualified to judge most antiques

Well hope this fills a small gap in the ove rall picture If I can be of further help in any way please let me know

Sincerely Bob Younkin 55 Appleby Road Razorback Airport Fayetteville Arkansas 72701 26

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I Pioneer Northwest pilot Eclith Fol tz lVel 1 neltive of Dallas maiden name - 1agali She learned to I) in Portlaml Oregon Fel)(uar) of l)l8

l IJdrntormecl a long-wing Edglerock (OX-5) middotkCfuirec License 5nOO and lVas th e fifth US wOlllan to ohtain the Transport rlIing

J Barnstorming the Northwest - Pilot Greenwood in a Ryan Brougham and Edith in the OX-5 Eaglerock

4 Edith placed second in the light-plane division of the first Nashytional Womens Air Derby 1929 Santa Monica to Cleveland flying an Alexander Eaglerock Bullet (Kinner engine) Charter member of the 99s

5 May 1930 - Edith christening The Romer new five-passenger airplane manufactured by the National Aircraft Corp Beavershyton Oregon

Vintag The Flying life

Compile (Special thanks to Paulin sharing Edith Sterns scr

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1 I Edith Stearns in structed Naval and Kingsv ille TX after WWII with Pauline Glasson Decease

Album m es of Edith Foltz Stearns ~ I enn Bu ff ington on of Co rp us Chr isti Texas fo r ( w ith us - also to I B Decker the photos)

ts in ins trum ent flying at Corpus Christi eel the 52 and 53 Powder Puff Derbies 956 ending a brillidnt flying career

Edith served as th e first Northwest Section Governor of the 99s - and she also w as Oregon Governor of the National Aeronautics Assn in the ea rl y ]Os She flew a Kinner Bird in the 3 7 and 32 derbies both from Sa nta Monica to Cleveland (4th in 3 7 and 2nd in 32 in th e women s division)

7 Edith and her son Richard Foltz age 6 in 793 7 a t Portland Oregon

8 7932 a t Cleveland Na tiona l Air Races (L to R) Vio la Gentry G ladys ODonn ell Florence Klingensmith Frank Phillips Edith Foltz Stearns and Frances Marsalis taken with Phillips Woolshyaroc Trophy Edith flew th e Bird to 2nd place in the Amelia Earhart Trophy Race (pylons) 1932 Klingesmith was first in a Monoco upe

9 Sk irts ~a flyin Edith Foltz Stea rns models one or her trade-marked FoIZLIp flying lOgs which eas il y converted to st reet wear - 7 932

I O Edith managed a new feeder airl in e a t Portshyland dnd taught prim ary CPT at Salem prior to WWII - se rved in En g land as a Firs t Officer in the Air Tran sport Aux iliary here in uniform

(Fred Chew photo)

Bills Cessna 140 slips through a quick left turn in a test of-rhe new splas h rails

A Harbor for Classics By David Gustafson Editor

Some fo lks would argue that Bali Hi is a mythical Island out in the South Pacific where the best in life is an everyday affair There are a few peoplehowshyever who would be inclined to suggest that the protoshytype model for Bali Hi can be found on the Southshyeast corner of Stafford Pond in Westport Masshysachusetts Thats where Bill Walsh lives What makes it special Well hes got several acres of land in the secluded inlet of a clear lake He doesn t have palm trees though his Norwegian pines give the same effect on a warm and breezy summer night To improve the natural scene Bill put in a dock laid down some railroad track for a movable ramp that can be winched right into the hangar he erected 200

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feet from the water Naturally there has to be someshything to place in the hangar so Bills lined the walls with tools and bending brakes The space thats left is reserved for his Cessna 140 Floatplane and the Aeronca Sedan hes rebuilding so he can be a twoshyfloatplane family

The Cessna 140 was built in 1948 and sent directly from Wichita to Sea Wings of Connecticut for conshyversion to floats It was then sold with floats and wheels With the stock Continental 85 horsepower engine the plane was marginal as a hot day aquatic performer Getting off the surf with two husky adults when its over 75 degrees out is a groaning process Some of the problem relates to the high speed airshy

foil that works nicely in cruise but does little to generate the kind of take-off lift you get in someshything like a Cub or Champ Even as a ground plane the Cessna requires a long take-off roll

Once airborne however the 140 levels off to a respectable 90 mph with a corkscrew that measures a wide 76 x 38 Bill s hoping to swap the C-85 someday for an 0-200 so he can take up so me of his fat friends in the mint julip season

As fa r as skidding around the pond Bill reports theres very little difference between the 140 and comshyparably sized float planes Of course the take-off runs lon ge r but once airborne (40-45 mph ) it climb s well and flies with much greater stability than a

land model The floats give it a big plane feeling says Bill

Stalls with a floating 140 are similar to the land configuration and intentional spins are strictly verbotten

When Bill bought the plane in 1963 it was on the floats but he couldnt get it off the water The floats leaked Experimentation revealed that the keel opened up on a take-off run so they were replaced Later he added spray rails which eliminated the center wake and brought the plane up onto the step quicker

In the wintertime the floats are replaced with skis and Bill goes out to race the ice boats Between

he floats and the skis the wheels havent been on the 140 for several years now When he wants to bounce around a paved runway he heads off to Fall River Airport haul s out a 170-B (of which he owns 1115th) and renews his acquaintance with toe brakes and squealing rubber

Like a growing number of people in EAA Bill divides his time between flying one project and tinkershying with another Hes lucky enough to have an Aeronca 15 AC Sedan as that other project He picked it up a couple years ago at a price that would take the wind out of some people Ask anyone who knows Bill or his close friend Fred Chew and theyll tell you that those two guys deserve a special suit that says SUPER-SCROUNGERS across the chest They have uncanny talents at picking up materials for nothing or next to it More than once in recent history theyve plucked chicken feathers out of an old Continental or Lycoming that was retrieved from the dark corner of a barn for around $100 (Actually Bills just finished a two-year term as President of EAA Chapter 51 in Middletown Rhode Island and Freds still the Chapter Designee - they have both done an excellent job)

When the opportunity arose they dickered and diddled and sang the song of a snake charmer until they could come home with a smile and that particular Sedan

Naturally the plane needed a little work The previous owner had argued with a pine tree The tree not only won but took the left wing as a prize The Aeronca was apparently so shocked by the action that it pulled back and stood up on the right wing as if to say I beg your pardon When things got back to level the right tip was mashed

How many times do you suppose guys like Bill and Fred have set out to unbend a wing but wound

(Fred Chew photo)

Off and flying the 140 is a marginal performer on hot days with a full load

(Fred Chew photo)

This Cessna 140 has been a regular feature in Bills back- yard for 15 years

up rebuilding the entire machine You can add their names to the list

One thing Bill quickly points out is that he and Fred are not engaged in a full-scale down-to-theshylast-screw restoration project Nope When it flies again i t will still be clearly recognizable as an Aeronca Sedan but there are some (approved ) changes in store Most obvious is the addition of brackets for float struts A presto-change-o routine with a few bolts will convert the plane from land to sea or vice versa

Conveniently it so happened that the greatest crash damage occurred on the left side Fred happily ripped out the bent tubes bent a few new ones and followed the STC cookbook for installing a left side door that opens upwards to the wing Its an approved mod for a seaplane configuration

(David Gustafson photo) Progress in the rebuild ing effort is evi shydent in this shot o f th e Sedan th e left wing attachment has been repaired the fusel age has been blas ted and primed the new left door frame is complete and a new headlin er s being installed

(Fred Chew photo) after abrupt removshy

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Each of the large metal wings originally contained 20 gallon rubber gas bladders (say that three times) and both leaked after the crash Replacement cost was $700 apiece so the wing panels were torn off and Fred bent up a couple of metal tanks that are larger than the originals Between the tanks and the twisted metal from the crash Fred figures hes disshymantled at least 80 per cent of the wings and replaced 50 per cent of the total materials Included are a number of ribs shaped by hand on wooden formers which were also hand etched from the pieces bound for the junk heap That translates into a lot of aluminum the wing span is 376 with a chord in excess of 5 feet which produces 200 square feet of wing area In the end Fred will be able to reproduce any curved part of the Sedans wing and yes he plans to come up with quotes for others needing help (write Fred Chew 158 Meridian Street Fall River Massach usetts 02720)

With the Clark Y airfoil and a Continental 145 horsepower engine the Sedan leaps off the ground almost as fast as a two-place Cub When you turn it into a Seadan by adding a couple EDO 2000s it breaks surf suction with a simple hop skip and a slurping leap The only drawback is that with the 2000s you cant hop unless there are only two people on board With four people and full tanks the floats become submarines As a result the two resourceful metal benders who plan to build their own floats are giving serious thought to making something bigshyger

(David Gustafson photo)

Detail of the float attachment fitting

Bills Aeronca was built in 1948 and like most classics its alread~ changed hands a few times Dr Paul Nussbaum was the first to drop mud on the carpets in 49 John Ru sh moved it from Missouri to Ohio ten years later After another decade a pair of partners in Pennsylvania flew it for awhile and then left it with another partnership in New York Gerry Broskin and Harris Gordon revamped the panel and went IFR Soon after that it became the answer to a dream for Ron and Diane Rissone in Randolph Massachusetts But then there was this pine tree That brings the odyssey of N1365H to Bill Walsh hangar and private seaplane base

The next time Bills Sedan sees another runway itll obviously be sporting rebuilt wings and new float brackets in addition there ll be a new windshield all new woodwork new ceconite new headliner new used back seats (from a Tri-Pacer yet) a new panel (still IFR) and discussion has already started about a total engine overhaul

Theres one other new item in the works for the Sedan When its checked out on its wheels again there ll be a streamlined gas tank nestled in the gear bay You see Bill and Fred have promised themselves this extended tour of South America once they finish

Then the Sedan will bob in the harbor beside the Cessna and Bill can wrestle with the question which one do I fly today

(David Gustafson photo)

Fred Chew holds up the new tip hes built for the right wing

(David Gustafson photo)

Bill Walsh displys the seaplane door thats being installed on the left side of th e Sedan

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Restoration Tips a photo essay provided by

Fred Chew 158 Meridian St

Fall River Mass 02720

(Note Freds kept an exce llent photo record of the process of rebuilding the wings for Bill Walshs Aeronca Sedan It gives a good idea of how to do it and how much works involved)

No2 - Teardown reveals the damage No4 - Line up new to old

No 1 - Last step before rebuilding

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Aeronca Sedan spar repair 7976 (Right wing) No5 - Extrusion repair

No8 - Removing old section No 10 - Repair of extrusion spar No6 - Horizontal-line up

No7 - New piece made ready for hole flare No9 - Ready for spar extrusion repair No 17 - New piece in place for riveting

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No 12 - Nose rib in place No 15 - Form to fit inside of old damaged spar tip rib NO 78 - Hand form mg

No 73 - C1eco nose rib to spa r No 16 - 032 alclad ready to be clamped in form No 79 - Flanging spar tip

No 74 - Ready to repair rear spar No 77 - Form ready for hand bending jig for lightening holes No 20 - More of same 22

No 27 - Trim off excess flange No 24 - Test fit to spar No 27 - 032 alclad 2024 TJ

No 22 - Trim square to form No 25 - Fly cutting lightening holes No 28 - Spar tip ready for installation

No 23 - Remove from form No 26 - Flanging No 29 - Clecos test line up 23

The Babv Cessna

It was born in Wichita Kansas at the Cessna fac-shytory in 1929 Because of the stock market slump the Airplane manufacturing business fell off drasshytically To try and keep the plant in operation Eldon Cessna decided to design and build a light airplane that could be sold at a low price As a result the EC-1 was developed It was powered with a 25 hp Cleone engine

At the time I was enrolled at the Braley School of Flying which was located directly across the road to the east of the Cessna field I spent much of my spare time at the field watching the men work on and fly the Baby Cessna It was a fascinating little airplane

Early last year I was looking for a suitable airshyplane to model for a C02 Powered model airplane contest I remembered the Baby Cessna and thought it would be just what I wanted

In doing research for drawings and photos I found that photos of both the EC-1 and the EC-2 were available but no drawings I had a photo of the EC-1 that I had taken with my Brownie box camera The EC-2 looked cleaner with its design refinements and the Aeronca E-107 engine

I met Eldon Cessna at-an OX5 get-to-gether at the Santa Paula Airport and we discussed the EC-2 at length He informed me that plans had never been published The EC-2 (cn 253 N405W) was the last Baby Cessna built

From the photos and from memory of being around the Baby Cessna these plans for a model were drawn Imagine what a delightful fun airplane it would be for a homebuilt replica project today These specifications appeared in the 1930 issue of Air Age magazine

Baby Cessna EC-2 (cn253 N405W) 30 hp Aeronca E-707A

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Baby Cessna EC-7 (cn 257 N403W) 25 hp Cleone 1930

By Cedric Calloway EAA 752

74624 Willow Street Hesperia CA 92345

~ --~ THE BABY CESSNA

Span 34 ft 11 in Wing area 163 sq ft Length overall 20 ft 4 in Height overall bull 5 ft 6 in Weights

Empty 470 Ibs Gross 925 Ibs

Gasoline capacity 8 gal Oil capacity 34 gal Power (Aeronca E-107A) 30 hp

PERFORMANCE

High speed 86 mph Cruising speed 70 mph Stalling speed 38 mph Climb first minute 740 ft Ceiling (service) 15000 ft Cruising range 200 miles

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1 I~rlII~llS Dear Sir

I am trying to get information on an aircraft that was built during the 20s called the Golden Eagle Chief It was a parasol wing powered by a radial engine type unshyknown Only about seven were built If any of your Antique classic division members know anything about this aircraft I would like to get in touch with them

I would like to take this opportunity to express what an outstanding organization I think the EAA is Ive only been a member for three years and only regret the years before I joined SPORT AVIATION is one of the best publications that I have ever read I have been to Oshkosh twice and to quite a few local fly-ins including Sun N Fun and have never seen anything more organized or better run I am looking forward to Oshkosh 78 and to continued membership in a fine organization

Sincerely james E Spradley (EAA 108947) PO Box 146 Rutledge Alabama 36071

Dear Mr Nielander Your editorial in the February issue of The Vinshy

tage Airplane is the best expression of the question of who is really qualified to maintain antique and classic aircraft (this applies equally well to some curshyrent aircraft such as the Bellanca Viking etc)

I submit the following recommendation as a way to offset some of the difficulties expressed in your excellent editorial to wit

The FAA should grant an A and E (or P) mechanics license to an individual who meets the following qualifications

(1) Passes three written examinations now required for the rating

(2) Passes the practical examination currently reshyquired

(3) Can show that he has actually done the major portion of the work in the restoration of an antique or classic airplane

You will note that the difference between these requirements and the current FAR part 65 requireshyments is the modification of sec 6577 which relates to on-the-job or schooling experience

From my own experience in restoring three airshyplanes (Luscombe Stinson Reliant Beechcraft B17L) I know that the amount of honest-to-God airplane and engine work in the usual restoration project is in exshycess of the stuff that the students in the approved

mechanic schools get Moreover during the 30 months practical experience referred to in FAR 6577 a lot of that time is spent just removing cowlings cleanshying sparkplugs changing tires sweeping floors pumpshying gas and plowing snow I guess what Im trying to do is build a case which shows that the antique classic restorer or homebuilder knows just as much about airplanes in general as does the individual who qualifies under the current provisions of FAR sec 6577

Very truly yours Thomas R Rench 1601 Circlewood Drive Racine Wisconsin 53402

Dear AI Perhaps I can shed a little light on the centershy

fold of the February issue of The Vintage Airplane The two planes pictured in the center of the page

are Top picture Wright Martin (Loening) M-8 Botshytom picture is an Ansaldo SVA-5 or SVA-9

The Loen ing was manufactured by the Wright Marshytin Corp and was built in 1921-1922 The factory deSignation was M-8

The Army Air Service designation was PW-2 PWshy2A and PW-2B Two of the PW-2 model were built in 1921 Gross weight was 2788 Ibs span 39 8 length 24 2 Ten of the PW-2A model were ordered by the Air Service but the order was cancelled after four were built in 1922 Gross weight was 2799 Ibs span 39 9 length 26 1

The PW2B was evaluated in 1922 but was never built Gross weight was to be 2976 Ibs span 34 1 length 23 4

PW-2 and PW-2A were powered by the Wright Martin H of 320 hp which was a Hisso built under license The PW2-B was to be powered by a 350 hp Packard engine

The Ansaldo can be either an SVA-5 or SVA-9 as the front view doesnt show whether it is a two place or single place The SVA-5 was single place while the SVA-9 was two place Both were powered by the Breda SPA-6A engine which was 6 cylinders and rated at 200 hp at 1600 rpm

I understand that there is an SVA-5 in a museum in Connecticut but I am not sure of this

Hope this information will be of some use to you Best regards H M Harkcom Harkcom Aircraft Service Rt 1 Inola Oklahoma

Dear AI In the February issue j R Nielander wrote an in shy

teresting editorial concerning the possibilities in the area of personal certification of antique aircraft by the owner restorer

Without blowing my own horn too loud I have worked with antiquers and others for the last 28 years doing what j R talks about signing off work for non-rated owners A lot of these people are really sharp and most do above average work and should be allowed to cut it on their own somehow

I think the key to this thing is for the FAA to set up a program whereby the interested antiquer could satisfy them that he is qualified to restore and mainshytain his antique This may not be as far away from FAA thinking as one might imagine as there has been talk around for some time at lower levels that the AampE ratings cover too much area for the average mechanic In other words the thinking in some areas of the FAA is that specialized ratings might be needed to have better qualified people in the field where needed If this thinking is still being kicked around in the FAA then the people in the antique field would fit into the thinking already floating around

A specialized rating for antiquers that covered about what was in old manual 18 would not be diffi shycult to qualify for I would favor two ratings along the lines of the AampP If an antiquer did not want to get into the mechanics of engines he could go after an airframe rating only If he wanted to be able to annual his antique then of course he would have to hold both tickets To satisfy the FARs and the inshysurance companies I think the antique rating apshyproach has good merit

I have talked to several antiquers not rated and they all said that they would be happy to work toshyward a limited type rating that would allow them unrestricted labor on their own aircraft They all feel that they should have this opportunity and I concur I have not always been happy to sign off work as an IA due to the fact that there is no such thing as direct supervision even if you are in the same room all the time Also I have seen the FAA just as uneasy mostly because they as a whole are far from qualified to judge most antiques

Well hope this fills a small gap in the ove rall picture If I can be of further help in any way please let me know

Sincerely Bob Younkin 55 Appleby Road Razorback Airport Fayetteville Arkansas 72701 26

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Album m es of Edith Foltz Stearns ~ I enn Bu ff ington on of Co rp us Chr isti Texas fo r ( w ith us - also to I B Decker the photos)

ts in ins trum ent flying at Corpus Christi eel the 52 and 53 Powder Puff Derbies 956 ending a brillidnt flying career

Edith served as th e first Northwest Section Governor of the 99s - and she also w as Oregon Governor of the National Aeronautics Assn in the ea rl y ]Os She flew a Kinner Bird in the 3 7 and 32 derbies both from Sa nta Monica to Cleveland (4th in 3 7 and 2nd in 32 in th e women s division)

7 Edith and her son Richard Foltz age 6 in 793 7 a t Portland Oregon

8 7932 a t Cleveland Na tiona l Air Races (L to R) Vio la Gentry G ladys ODonn ell Florence Klingensmith Frank Phillips Edith Foltz Stearns and Frances Marsalis taken with Phillips Woolshyaroc Trophy Edith flew th e Bird to 2nd place in the Amelia Earhart Trophy Race (pylons) 1932 Klingesmith was first in a Monoco upe

9 Sk irts ~a flyin Edith Foltz Stea rns models one or her trade-marked FoIZLIp flying lOgs which eas il y converted to st reet wear - 7 932

I O Edith managed a new feeder airl in e a t Portshyland dnd taught prim ary CPT at Salem prior to WWII - se rved in En g land as a Firs t Officer in the Air Tran sport Aux iliary here in uniform

(Fred Chew photo)

Bills Cessna 140 slips through a quick left turn in a test of-rhe new splas h rails

A Harbor for Classics By David Gustafson Editor

Some fo lks would argue that Bali Hi is a mythical Island out in the South Pacific where the best in life is an everyday affair There are a few peoplehowshyever who would be inclined to suggest that the protoshytype model for Bali Hi can be found on the Southshyeast corner of Stafford Pond in Westport Masshysachusetts Thats where Bill Walsh lives What makes it special Well hes got several acres of land in the secluded inlet of a clear lake He doesn t have palm trees though his Norwegian pines give the same effect on a warm and breezy summer night To improve the natural scene Bill put in a dock laid down some railroad track for a movable ramp that can be winched right into the hangar he erected 200

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feet from the water Naturally there has to be someshything to place in the hangar so Bills lined the walls with tools and bending brakes The space thats left is reserved for his Cessna 140 Floatplane and the Aeronca Sedan hes rebuilding so he can be a twoshyfloatplane family

The Cessna 140 was built in 1948 and sent directly from Wichita to Sea Wings of Connecticut for conshyversion to floats It was then sold with floats and wheels With the stock Continental 85 horsepower engine the plane was marginal as a hot day aquatic performer Getting off the surf with two husky adults when its over 75 degrees out is a groaning process Some of the problem relates to the high speed airshy

foil that works nicely in cruise but does little to generate the kind of take-off lift you get in someshything like a Cub or Champ Even as a ground plane the Cessna requires a long take-off roll

Once airborne however the 140 levels off to a respectable 90 mph with a corkscrew that measures a wide 76 x 38 Bill s hoping to swap the C-85 someday for an 0-200 so he can take up so me of his fat friends in the mint julip season

As fa r as skidding around the pond Bill reports theres very little difference between the 140 and comshyparably sized float planes Of course the take-off runs lon ge r but once airborne (40-45 mph ) it climb s well and flies with much greater stability than a

land model The floats give it a big plane feeling says Bill

Stalls with a floating 140 are similar to the land configuration and intentional spins are strictly verbotten

When Bill bought the plane in 1963 it was on the floats but he couldnt get it off the water The floats leaked Experimentation revealed that the keel opened up on a take-off run so they were replaced Later he added spray rails which eliminated the center wake and brought the plane up onto the step quicker

In the wintertime the floats are replaced with skis and Bill goes out to race the ice boats Between

he floats and the skis the wheels havent been on the 140 for several years now When he wants to bounce around a paved runway he heads off to Fall River Airport haul s out a 170-B (of which he owns 1115th) and renews his acquaintance with toe brakes and squealing rubber

Like a growing number of people in EAA Bill divides his time between flying one project and tinkershying with another Hes lucky enough to have an Aeronca 15 AC Sedan as that other project He picked it up a couple years ago at a price that would take the wind out of some people Ask anyone who knows Bill or his close friend Fred Chew and theyll tell you that those two guys deserve a special suit that says SUPER-SCROUNGERS across the chest They have uncanny talents at picking up materials for nothing or next to it More than once in recent history theyve plucked chicken feathers out of an old Continental or Lycoming that was retrieved from the dark corner of a barn for around $100 (Actually Bills just finished a two-year term as President of EAA Chapter 51 in Middletown Rhode Island and Freds still the Chapter Designee - they have both done an excellent job)

When the opportunity arose they dickered and diddled and sang the song of a snake charmer until they could come home with a smile and that particular Sedan

Naturally the plane needed a little work The previous owner had argued with a pine tree The tree not only won but took the left wing as a prize The Aeronca was apparently so shocked by the action that it pulled back and stood up on the right wing as if to say I beg your pardon When things got back to level the right tip was mashed

How many times do you suppose guys like Bill and Fred have set out to unbend a wing but wound

(Fred Chew photo)

Off and flying the 140 is a marginal performer on hot days with a full load

(Fred Chew photo)

This Cessna 140 has been a regular feature in Bills back- yard for 15 years

up rebuilding the entire machine You can add their names to the list

One thing Bill quickly points out is that he and Fred are not engaged in a full-scale down-to-theshylast-screw restoration project Nope When it flies again i t will still be clearly recognizable as an Aeronca Sedan but there are some (approved ) changes in store Most obvious is the addition of brackets for float struts A presto-change-o routine with a few bolts will convert the plane from land to sea or vice versa

Conveniently it so happened that the greatest crash damage occurred on the left side Fred happily ripped out the bent tubes bent a few new ones and followed the STC cookbook for installing a left side door that opens upwards to the wing Its an approved mod for a seaplane configuration

(David Gustafson photo) Progress in the rebuild ing effort is evi shydent in this shot o f th e Sedan th e left wing attachment has been repaired the fusel age has been blas ted and primed the new left door frame is complete and a new headlin er s being installed

(Fred Chew photo) after abrupt removshy

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Each of the large metal wings originally contained 20 gallon rubber gas bladders (say that three times) and both leaked after the crash Replacement cost was $700 apiece so the wing panels were torn off and Fred bent up a couple of metal tanks that are larger than the originals Between the tanks and the twisted metal from the crash Fred figures hes disshymantled at least 80 per cent of the wings and replaced 50 per cent of the total materials Included are a number of ribs shaped by hand on wooden formers which were also hand etched from the pieces bound for the junk heap That translates into a lot of aluminum the wing span is 376 with a chord in excess of 5 feet which produces 200 square feet of wing area In the end Fred will be able to reproduce any curved part of the Sedans wing and yes he plans to come up with quotes for others needing help (write Fred Chew 158 Meridian Street Fall River Massach usetts 02720)

With the Clark Y airfoil and a Continental 145 horsepower engine the Sedan leaps off the ground almost as fast as a two-place Cub When you turn it into a Seadan by adding a couple EDO 2000s it breaks surf suction with a simple hop skip and a slurping leap The only drawback is that with the 2000s you cant hop unless there are only two people on board With four people and full tanks the floats become submarines As a result the two resourceful metal benders who plan to build their own floats are giving serious thought to making something bigshyger

(David Gustafson photo)

Detail of the float attachment fitting

Bills Aeronca was built in 1948 and like most classics its alread~ changed hands a few times Dr Paul Nussbaum was the first to drop mud on the carpets in 49 John Ru sh moved it from Missouri to Ohio ten years later After another decade a pair of partners in Pennsylvania flew it for awhile and then left it with another partnership in New York Gerry Broskin and Harris Gordon revamped the panel and went IFR Soon after that it became the answer to a dream for Ron and Diane Rissone in Randolph Massachusetts But then there was this pine tree That brings the odyssey of N1365H to Bill Walsh hangar and private seaplane base

The next time Bills Sedan sees another runway itll obviously be sporting rebuilt wings and new float brackets in addition there ll be a new windshield all new woodwork new ceconite new headliner new used back seats (from a Tri-Pacer yet) a new panel (still IFR) and discussion has already started about a total engine overhaul

Theres one other new item in the works for the Sedan When its checked out on its wheels again there ll be a streamlined gas tank nestled in the gear bay You see Bill and Fred have promised themselves this extended tour of South America once they finish

Then the Sedan will bob in the harbor beside the Cessna and Bill can wrestle with the question which one do I fly today

(David Gustafson photo)

Fred Chew holds up the new tip hes built for the right wing

(David Gustafson photo)

Bill Walsh displys the seaplane door thats being installed on the left side of th e Sedan

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Restoration Tips a photo essay provided by

Fred Chew 158 Meridian St

Fall River Mass 02720

(Note Freds kept an exce llent photo record of the process of rebuilding the wings for Bill Walshs Aeronca Sedan It gives a good idea of how to do it and how much works involved)

No2 - Teardown reveals the damage No4 - Line up new to old

No 1 - Last step before rebuilding

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Aeronca Sedan spar repair 7976 (Right wing) No5 - Extrusion repair

No8 - Removing old section No 10 - Repair of extrusion spar No6 - Horizontal-line up

No7 - New piece made ready for hole flare No9 - Ready for spar extrusion repair No 17 - New piece in place for riveting

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No 12 - Nose rib in place No 15 - Form to fit inside of old damaged spar tip rib NO 78 - Hand form mg

No 73 - C1eco nose rib to spa r No 16 - 032 alclad ready to be clamped in form No 79 - Flanging spar tip

No 74 - Ready to repair rear spar No 77 - Form ready for hand bending jig for lightening holes No 20 - More of same 22

No 27 - Trim off excess flange No 24 - Test fit to spar No 27 - 032 alclad 2024 TJ

No 22 - Trim square to form No 25 - Fly cutting lightening holes No 28 - Spar tip ready for installation

No 23 - Remove from form No 26 - Flanging No 29 - Clecos test line up 23

The Babv Cessna

It was born in Wichita Kansas at the Cessna fac-shytory in 1929 Because of the stock market slump the Airplane manufacturing business fell off drasshytically To try and keep the plant in operation Eldon Cessna decided to design and build a light airplane that could be sold at a low price As a result the EC-1 was developed It was powered with a 25 hp Cleone engine

At the time I was enrolled at the Braley School of Flying which was located directly across the road to the east of the Cessna field I spent much of my spare time at the field watching the men work on and fly the Baby Cessna It was a fascinating little airplane

Early last year I was looking for a suitable airshyplane to model for a C02 Powered model airplane contest I remembered the Baby Cessna and thought it would be just what I wanted

In doing research for drawings and photos I found that photos of both the EC-1 and the EC-2 were available but no drawings I had a photo of the EC-1 that I had taken with my Brownie box camera The EC-2 looked cleaner with its design refinements and the Aeronca E-107 engine

I met Eldon Cessna at-an OX5 get-to-gether at the Santa Paula Airport and we discussed the EC-2 at length He informed me that plans had never been published The EC-2 (cn 253 N405W) was the last Baby Cessna built

From the photos and from memory of being around the Baby Cessna these plans for a model were drawn Imagine what a delightful fun airplane it would be for a homebuilt replica project today These specifications appeared in the 1930 issue of Air Age magazine

Baby Cessna EC-2 (cn253 N405W) 30 hp Aeronca E-707A

bull 1

Baby Cessna EC-7 (cn 257 N403W) 25 hp Cleone 1930

By Cedric Calloway EAA 752

74624 Willow Street Hesperia CA 92345

~ --~ THE BABY CESSNA

Span 34 ft 11 in Wing area 163 sq ft Length overall 20 ft 4 in Height overall bull 5 ft 6 in Weights

Empty 470 Ibs Gross 925 Ibs

Gasoline capacity 8 gal Oil capacity 34 gal Power (Aeronca E-107A) 30 hp

PERFORMANCE

High speed 86 mph Cruising speed 70 mph Stalling speed 38 mph Climb first minute 740 ft Ceiling (service) 15000 ft Cruising range 200 miles

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REPLICA 1912 CURTISS PUSHER - Excellent craftsmanship fabric Cmiddot65 90 SMOH A real crowd pleaser - $4800 or best offer 8051498middot5101

TAYLORCRAFT BDmiddot12D - Razorback butyrate New Slick ignition Genave 100 Comm portable installed Spare prop and compass Sound 65 hp Cont Fresh annual $5000 Firm Crawford 7500 Balboa Van Nuys CA 91406

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65 Continental - Approx 1000 hrs Logs Complete except for one mag 414387middot4895

Two Continental aircraft engines for sale Crated and ready for shipment Continental Amiddot75-8 OSMO - Total Time 1386 hrs Crankshaft - standard size - pistons 015 over Comshyplete less carbo Complete logs Price - $185000 Continenshytal A-65-8 OSMO - Total Time 218 hrs Pistons and crankshyshaft - standard size Complete less harness Complete logs Price - $225000 Jon J Thompson telephone 804 285-2929 9 AM - 5 PM Monday through Friday

PROPELLERS

Custom built props for Con tin ental Lycoming GPUs etc Fast delivery Chad Wille 5957 Sevi ll e St Lake Grove OR 97034

ARROW SPORT reduction gear and o il pan for Ford V-8 flatshyhead engine new Mark Dees 358 S Beverly Dr Beverly Hill s CA 90212 213552-0192

WANTED Any information concerning the Lincoln Sport Biplane produced in Lincoln Nebraska in the 1920s (parshytial plans shown in the 1930 Flying and Glider Manual ) Mr Harry R Owen Box 304 Isanti MN 55040

Calendar of Events JUNE 9-11 - SPRINGFIELD OHIO - 2nd Annual Spring EAA Midshy

Eastern Regional Fly-In (ME RFI ) Air Show awards on airport camping static displays etc Please check NOTAMS Contact Myrna Lewi s 241 Bassett Drive Springfie ld Ohio 44506 5131 323-2424

JUNE 16-18 - ANDERSON INDIANA - Second Annual Cessna 120shy140 Assn Fly- In and meeting Quad City Municipal Airport Moshyline Ill inois For information con tact Frank Han cock SecfTreas 3941 West Cross St Anderson IN 46011317643-1593

JUNE 17middot18 - FREDERICKSBURG VIRG INIA - Antique Aircraft FlyshyIn Shannon Airport Air Show attract ions Bob Hoover Bob Rus shysell and Duane Cole

JUNE 21middot26 - TULLAHOMA TENNESSEE - Annual Staggerwingl Travel Air International Convention Forums formation fl yi ng and fun Contad John Parish clo Lannom Mfg Co Tullahoma Tennessee 38388 615455-0691

JUNE 23middot25 - HAMILTON OHIO - Annual National Waco Reunion Fly-In Contact Ray Brandly 2650 W Alex-Bell Rd Dayton OH 45459 513435-9725

JULY 1-2 - GAINESVILLE GEORGIA - 11th Annual Cracker Fly-In at Lee-Gilmer Airport Awards will be presented in all categories O ur banquet will be at the Gainesville Ho liday Inn Saturday night July 2 Len Povey has accepted an invitation to be guest speaker Accommodations - Gainesvi lle Holiday Inn and other local motels Information Jim Ealy 3535 Childers Road Roswell Georgia 30075 404993-4568

JULY 1-9 - BLAKESBURG IOWA - Wright Brothers 75th Annivershysary Fly-In at th e Antique Airfield In cl udes World War II PT and Liaison Plane Fly-In July 1-3 Fairchild Club Fly-In and Unique Airshyplane Fly-In July 8-9

JULY 9 - EASTON PENNSYLVANIA - 2nd Annual Aeronca FlyshyIn Easton Airport 10 AM to 230 PM open to all types of Aeroncas Rain date July 16 Contact Jim Polles 2151759-3713 nights and weekends

JULY 14-16 - MINDEN NEBRASKA - Second Annual National Stinshyson Club Fly-In Pioneer Field near Harold Warp s Pioneer Vilshylage BBQ Friday night for early arriva ls Saturday night banq uet and awards Schedu led events Fly-In Chairman Bob Near 2702 Butterfoot Lane Hastings Nebraska 68901 402463-9309

JULY 15middot16 - LOCKPORT ILLINOI S - Chapter 15 and 86 of the Ch icago area EAA are now formulating plans for their 18th Annua l Fly-In and Air Show to be held at Lewis University In shyformation Janice P Fish PO 411 Lemont Illinoi s 60439

JULY 15-16 - LONG ISLAND NEW YORK - Antique Airp lane Club of Grea ter New York 16th Annual Fly- In Brookhaven Airport Brookhaven Long Island New York

JULY 16 - DUNKIRK NEW YORK - A nnual Fly-In Breakfast sponsored by EAA Chapter 46 and Dunkirk Rotary Free breakshyfast to homebui lders antique and warbi rd pilots Trophies in all EAA classes Spot landing contest on arrival Contact Charles Gallagher 19 Shelby Drive Buffalo New York 14225

JULY 21-23 - COFFEYVILLE KANSAS - Funk Fly- In Funk owners pilots and friends invited Fly-b ys factory and museum tours banquet Contact G Dale Beach 1621 Dreher Street Sacramento California 95814 o r Joe C Funk 2409 Edgevale Drive Coffeyshyville Kansas 67337

JULY 29 - AUGUST 5 - OSHKOSH WISCONSIN - 26th Ann ual EAA FlY-in Plan now - its the greatest show on eart h

AUGUST 6-12 - LAKELAND FLORIDA - International Cessna 170 Associat ion Conven tion Lakeland Florida

AUGUST 7-12 - FOND DU LAC WISCONSIN - 13th Annua l EAN lAC Internationa l Aeroba tic Championships For further informashytion conta ct Sam Maxwell 2116 Erie North Kansas City MO 64116

EAA ANTIQUECLASSIC DIVISION

MEMBERSHIP DRIVE

~~air of Antique Goggles by persuading 5 people to JOin

er A Leather Flying Helmet when you get 10 people to sign up

- then start over and win again

~A free five year membershyship in the AntiqueClassic Division if you sponsor the most new members in 1978

To Qualify Write your name and membershyship number on the back of the membershyship b lanks we ve been providing in THE VIN TA GE AIRPLAN E Headq uarters w ill keep sco re

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1 I~rlII~llS Dear Sir

I am trying to get information on an aircraft that was built during the 20s called the Golden Eagle Chief It was a parasol wing powered by a radial engine type unshyknown Only about seven were built If any of your Antique classic division members know anything about this aircraft I would like to get in touch with them

I would like to take this opportunity to express what an outstanding organization I think the EAA is Ive only been a member for three years and only regret the years before I joined SPORT AVIATION is one of the best publications that I have ever read I have been to Oshkosh twice and to quite a few local fly-ins including Sun N Fun and have never seen anything more organized or better run I am looking forward to Oshkosh 78 and to continued membership in a fine organization

Sincerely james E Spradley (EAA 108947) PO Box 146 Rutledge Alabama 36071

Dear Mr Nielander Your editorial in the February issue of The Vinshy

tage Airplane is the best expression of the question of who is really qualified to maintain antique and classic aircraft (this applies equally well to some curshyrent aircraft such as the Bellanca Viking etc)

I submit the following recommendation as a way to offset some of the difficulties expressed in your excellent editorial to wit

The FAA should grant an A and E (or P) mechanics license to an individual who meets the following qualifications

(1) Passes three written examinations now required for the rating

(2) Passes the practical examination currently reshyquired

(3) Can show that he has actually done the major portion of the work in the restoration of an antique or classic airplane

You will note that the difference between these requirements and the current FAR part 65 requireshyments is the modification of sec 6577 which relates to on-the-job or schooling experience

From my own experience in restoring three airshyplanes (Luscombe Stinson Reliant Beechcraft B17L) I know that the amount of honest-to-God airplane and engine work in the usual restoration project is in exshycess of the stuff that the students in the approved

mechanic schools get Moreover during the 30 months practical experience referred to in FAR 6577 a lot of that time is spent just removing cowlings cleanshying sparkplugs changing tires sweeping floors pumpshying gas and plowing snow I guess what Im trying to do is build a case which shows that the antique classic restorer or homebuilder knows just as much about airplanes in general as does the individual who qualifies under the current provisions of FAR sec 6577

Very truly yours Thomas R Rench 1601 Circlewood Drive Racine Wisconsin 53402

Dear AI Perhaps I can shed a little light on the centershy

fold of the February issue of The Vintage Airplane The two planes pictured in the center of the page

are Top picture Wright Martin (Loening) M-8 Botshytom picture is an Ansaldo SVA-5 or SVA-9

The Loen ing was manufactured by the Wright Marshytin Corp and was built in 1921-1922 The factory deSignation was M-8

The Army Air Service designation was PW-2 PWshy2A and PW-2B Two of the PW-2 model were built in 1921 Gross weight was 2788 Ibs span 39 8 length 24 2 Ten of the PW-2A model were ordered by the Air Service but the order was cancelled after four were built in 1922 Gross weight was 2799 Ibs span 39 9 length 26 1

The PW2B was evaluated in 1922 but was never built Gross weight was to be 2976 Ibs span 34 1 length 23 4

PW-2 and PW-2A were powered by the Wright Martin H of 320 hp which was a Hisso built under license The PW2-B was to be powered by a 350 hp Packard engine

The Ansaldo can be either an SVA-5 or SVA-9 as the front view doesnt show whether it is a two place or single place The SVA-5 was single place while the SVA-9 was two place Both were powered by the Breda SPA-6A engine which was 6 cylinders and rated at 200 hp at 1600 rpm

I understand that there is an SVA-5 in a museum in Connecticut but I am not sure of this

Hope this information will be of some use to you Best regards H M Harkcom Harkcom Aircraft Service Rt 1 Inola Oklahoma

Dear AI In the February issue j R Nielander wrote an in shy

teresting editorial concerning the possibilities in the area of personal certification of antique aircraft by the owner restorer

Without blowing my own horn too loud I have worked with antiquers and others for the last 28 years doing what j R talks about signing off work for non-rated owners A lot of these people are really sharp and most do above average work and should be allowed to cut it on their own somehow

I think the key to this thing is for the FAA to set up a program whereby the interested antiquer could satisfy them that he is qualified to restore and mainshytain his antique This may not be as far away from FAA thinking as one might imagine as there has been talk around for some time at lower levels that the AampE ratings cover too much area for the average mechanic In other words the thinking in some areas of the FAA is that specialized ratings might be needed to have better qualified people in the field where needed If this thinking is still being kicked around in the FAA then the people in the antique field would fit into the thinking already floating around

A specialized rating for antiquers that covered about what was in old manual 18 would not be diffi shycult to qualify for I would favor two ratings along the lines of the AampP If an antiquer did not want to get into the mechanics of engines he could go after an airframe rating only If he wanted to be able to annual his antique then of course he would have to hold both tickets To satisfy the FARs and the inshysurance companies I think the antique rating apshyproach has good merit

I have talked to several antiquers not rated and they all said that they would be happy to work toshyward a limited type rating that would allow them unrestricted labor on their own aircraft They all feel that they should have this opportunity and I concur I have not always been happy to sign off work as an IA due to the fact that there is no such thing as direct supervision even if you are in the same room all the time Also I have seen the FAA just as uneasy mostly because they as a whole are far from qualified to judge most antiques

Well hope this fills a small gap in the ove rall picture If I can be of further help in any way please let me know

Sincerely Bob Younkin 55 Appleby Road Razorback Airport Fayetteville Arkansas 72701 26

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(Fred Chew photo)

Bills Cessna 140 slips through a quick left turn in a test of-rhe new splas h rails

A Harbor for Classics By David Gustafson Editor

Some fo lks would argue that Bali Hi is a mythical Island out in the South Pacific where the best in life is an everyday affair There are a few peoplehowshyever who would be inclined to suggest that the protoshytype model for Bali Hi can be found on the Southshyeast corner of Stafford Pond in Westport Masshysachusetts Thats where Bill Walsh lives What makes it special Well hes got several acres of land in the secluded inlet of a clear lake He doesn t have palm trees though his Norwegian pines give the same effect on a warm and breezy summer night To improve the natural scene Bill put in a dock laid down some railroad track for a movable ramp that can be winched right into the hangar he erected 200

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feet from the water Naturally there has to be someshything to place in the hangar so Bills lined the walls with tools and bending brakes The space thats left is reserved for his Cessna 140 Floatplane and the Aeronca Sedan hes rebuilding so he can be a twoshyfloatplane family

The Cessna 140 was built in 1948 and sent directly from Wichita to Sea Wings of Connecticut for conshyversion to floats It was then sold with floats and wheels With the stock Continental 85 horsepower engine the plane was marginal as a hot day aquatic performer Getting off the surf with two husky adults when its over 75 degrees out is a groaning process Some of the problem relates to the high speed airshy

foil that works nicely in cruise but does little to generate the kind of take-off lift you get in someshything like a Cub or Champ Even as a ground plane the Cessna requires a long take-off roll

Once airborne however the 140 levels off to a respectable 90 mph with a corkscrew that measures a wide 76 x 38 Bill s hoping to swap the C-85 someday for an 0-200 so he can take up so me of his fat friends in the mint julip season

As fa r as skidding around the pond Bill reports theres very little difference between the 140 and comshyparably sized float planes Of course the take-off runs lon ge r but once airborne (40-45 mph ) it climb s well and flies with much greater stability than a

land model The floats give it a big plane feeling says Bill

Stalls with a floating 140 are similar to the land configuration and intentional spins are strictly verbotten

When Bill bought the plane in 1963 it was on the floats but he couldnt get it off the water The floats leaked Experimentation revealed that the keel opened up on a take-off run so they were replaced Later he added spray rails which eliminated the center wake and brought the plane up onto the step quicker

In the wintertime the floats are replaced with skis and Bill goes out to race the ice boats Between

he floats and the skis the wheels havent been on the 140 for several years now When he wants to bounce around a paved runway he heads off to Fall River Airport haul s out a 170-B (of which he owns 1115th) and renews his acquaintance with toe brakes and squealing rubber

Like a growing number of people in EAA Bill divides his time between flying one project and tinkershying with another Hes lucky enough to have an Aeronca 15 AC Sedan as that other project He picked it up a couple years ago at a price that would take the wind out of some people Ask anyone who knows Bill or his close friend Fred Chew and theyll tell you that those two guys deserve a special suit that says SUPER-SCROUNGERS across the chest They have uncanny talents at picking up materials for nothing or next to it More than once in recent history theyve plucked chicken feathers out of an old Continental or Lycoming that was retrieved from the dark corner of a barn for around $100 (Actually Bills just finished a two-year term as President of EAA Chapter 51 in Middletown Rhode Island and Freds still the Chapter Designee - they have both done an excellent job)

When the opportunity arose they dickered and diddled and sang the song of a snake charmer until they could come home with a smile and that particular Sedan

Naturally the plane needed a little work The previous owner had argued with a pine tree The tree not only won but took the left wing as a prize The Aeronca was apparently so shocked by the action that it pulled back and stood up on the right wing as if to say I beg your pardon When things got back to level the right tip was mashed

How many times do you suppose guys like Bill and Fred have set out to unbend a wing but wound

(Fred Chew photo)

Off and flying the 140 is a marginal performer on hot days with a full load

(Fred Chew photo)

This Cessna 140 has been a regular feature in Bills back- yard for 15 years

up rebuilding the entire machine You can add their names to the list

One thing Bill quickly points out is that he and Fred are not engaged in a full-scale down-to-theshylast-screw restoration project Nope When it flies again i t will still be clearly recognizable as an Aeronca Sedan but there are some (approved ) changes in store Most obvious is the addition of brackets for float struts A presto-change-o routine with a few bolts will convert the plane from land to sea or vice versa

Conveniently it so happened that the greatest crash damage occurred on the left side Fred happily ripped out the bent tubes bent a few new ones and followed the STC cookbook for installing a left side door that opens upwards to the wing Its an approved mod for a seaplane configuration

(David Gustafson photo) Progress in the rebuild ing effort is evi shydent in this shot o f th e Sedan th e left wing attachment has been repaired the fusel age has been blas ted and primed the new left door frame is complete and a new headlin er s being installed

(Fred Chew photo) after abrupt removshy

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Each of the large metal wings originally contained 20 gallon rubber gas bladders (say that three times) and both leaked after the crash Replacement cost was $700 apiece so the wing panels were torn off and Fred bent up a couple of metal tanks that are larger than the originals Between the tanks and the twisted metal from the crash Fred figures hes disshymantled at least 80 per cent of the wings and replaced 50 per cent of the total materials Included are a number of ribs shaped by hand on wooden formers which were also hand etched from the pieces bound for the junk heap That translates into a lot of aluminum the wing span is 376 with a chord in excess of 5 feet which produces 200 square feet of wing area In the end Fred will be able to reproduce any curved part of the Sedans wing and yes he plans to come up with quotes for others needing help (write Fred Chew 158 Meridian Street Fall River Massach usetts 02720)

With the Clark Y airfoil and a Continental 145 horsepower engine the Sedan leaps off the ground almost as fast as a two-place Cub When you turn it into a Seadan by adding a couple EDO 2000s it breaks surf suction with a simple hop skip and a slurping leap The only drawback is that with the 2000s you cant hop unless there are only two people on board With four people and full tanks the floats become submarines As a result the two resourceful metal benders who plan to build their own floats are giving serious thought to making something bigshyger

(David Gustafson photo)

Detail of the float attachment fitting

Bills Aeronca was built in 1948 and like most classics its alread~ changed hands a few times Dr Paul Nussbaum was the first to drop mud on the carpets in 49 John Ru sh moved it from Missouri to Ohio ten years later After another decade a pair of partners in Pennsylvania flew it for awhile and then left it with another partnership in New York Gerry Broskin and Harris Gordon revamped the panel and went IFR Soon after that it became the answer to a dream for Ron and Diane Rissone in Randolph Massachusetts But then there was this pine tree That brings the odyssey of N1365H to Bill Walsh hangar and private seaplane base

The next time Bills Sedan sees another runway itll obviously be sporting rebuilt wings and new float brackets in addition there ll be a new windshield all new woodwork new ceconite new headliner new used back seats (from a Tri-Pacer yet) a new panel (still IFR) and discussion has already started about a total engine overhaul

Theres one other new item in the works for the Sedan When its checked out on its wheels again there ll be a streamlined gas tank nestled in the gear bay You see Bill and Fred have promised themselves this extended tour of South America once they finish

Then the Sedan will bob in the harbor beside the Cessna and Bill can wrestle with the question which one do I fly today

(David Gustafson photo)

Fred Chew holds up the new tip hes built for the right wing

(David Gustafson photo)

Bill Walsh displys the seaplane door thats being installed on the left side of th e Sedan

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Restoration Tips a photo essay provided by

Fred Chew 158 Meridian St

Fall River Mass 02720

(Note Freds kept an exce llent photo record of the process of rebuilding the wings for Bill Walshs Aeronca Sedan It gives a good idea of how to do it and how much works involved)

No2 - Teardown reveals the damage No4 - Line up new to old

No 1 - Last step before rebuilding

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Aeronca Sedan spar repair 7976 (Right wing) No5 - Extrusion repair

No8 - Removing old section No 10 - Repair of extrusion spar No6 - Horizontal-line up

No7 - New piece made ready for hole flare No9 - Ready for spar extrusion repair No 17 - New piece in place for riveting

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No 12 - Nose rib in place No 15 - Form to fit inside of old damaged spar tip rib NO 78 - Hand form mg

No 73 - C1eco nose rib to spa r No 16 - 032 alclad ready to be clamped in form No 79 - Flanging spar tip

No 74 - Ready to repair rear spar No 77 - Form ready for hand bending jig for lightening holes No 20 - More of same 22

No 27 - Trim off excess flange No 24 - Test fit to spar No 27 - 032 alclad 2024 TJ

No 22 - Trim square to form No 25 - Fly cutting lightening holes No 28 - Spar tip ready for installation

No 23 - Remove from form No 26 - Flanging No 29 - Clecos test line up 23

The Babv Cessna

It was born in Wichita Kansas at the Cessna fac-shytory in 1929 Because of the stock market slump the Airplane manufacturing business fell off drasshytically To try and keep the plant in operation Eldon Cessna decided to design and build a light airplane that could be sold at a low price As a result the EC-1 was developed It was powered with a 25 hp Cleone engine

At the time I was enrolled at the Braley School of Flying which was located directly across the road to the east of the Cessna field I spent much of my spare time at the field watching the men work on and fly the Baby Cessna It was a fascinating little airplane

Early last year I was looking for a suitable airshyplane to model for a C02 Powered model airplane contest I remembered the Baby Cessna and thought it would be just what I wanted

In doing research for drawings and photos I found that photos of both the EC-1 and the EC-2 were available but no drawings I had a photo of the EC-1 that I had taken with my Brownie box camera The EC-2 looked cleaner with its design refinements and the Aeronca E-107 engine

I met Eldon Cessna at-an OX5 get-to-gether at the Santa Paula Airport and we discussed the EC-2 at length He informed me that plans had never been published The EC-2 (cn 253 N405W) was the last Baby Cessna built

From the photos and from memory of being around the Baby Cessna these plans for a model were drawn Imagine what a delightful fun airplane it would be for a homebuilt replica project today These specifications appeared in the 1930 issue of Air Age magazine

Baby Cessna EC-2 (cn253 N405W) 30 hp Aeronca E-707A

bull 1

Baby Cessna EC-7 (cn 257 N403W) 25 hp Cleone 1930

By Cedric Calloway EAA 752

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~ --~ THE BABY CESSNA

Span 34 ft 11 in Wing area 163 sq ft Length overall 20 ft 4 in Height overall bull 5 ft 6 in Weights

Empty 470 Ibs Gross 925 Ibs

Gasoline capacity 8 gal Oil capacity 34 gal Power (Aeronca E-107A) 30 hp

PERFORMANCE

High speed 86 mph Cruising speed 70 mph Stalling speed 38 mph Climb first minute 740 ft Ceiling (service) 15000 ft Cruising range 200 miles

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JUNE 17middot18 - FREDERICKSBURG VIRG INIA - Antique Aircraft FlyshyIn Shannon Airport Air Show attract ions Bob Hoover Bob Rus shysell and Duane Cole

JUNE 21middot26 - TULLAHOMA TENNESSEE - Annual Staggerwingl Travel Air International Convention Forums formation fl yi ng and fun Contad John Parish clo Lannom Mfg Co Tullahoma Tennessee 38388 615455-0691

JUNE 23middot25 - HAMILTON OHIO - Annual National Waco Reunion Fly-In Contact Ray Brandly 2650 W Alex-Bell Rd Dayton OH 45459 513435-9725

JULY 1-2 - GAINESVILLE GEORGIA - 11th Annual Cracker Fly-In at Lee-Gilmer Airport Awards will be presented in all categories O ur banquet will be at the Gainesville Ho liday Inn Saturday night July 2 Len Povey has accepted an invitation to be guest speaker Accommodations - Gainesvi lle Holiday Inn and other local motels Information Jim Ealy 3535 Childers Road Roswell Georgia 30075 404993-4568

JULY 1-9 - BLAKESBURG IOWA - Wright Brothers 75th Annivershysary Fly-In at th e Antique Airfield In cl udes World War II PT and Liaison Plane Fly-In July 1-3 Fairchild Club Fly-In and Unique Airshyplane Fly-In July 8-9

JULY 9 - EASTON PENNSYLVANIA - 2nd Annual Aeronca FlyshyIn Easton Airport 10 AM to 230 PM open to all types of Aeroncas Rain date July 16 Contact Jim Polles 2151759-3713 nights and weekends

JULY 14-16 - MINDEN NEBRASKA - Second Annual National Stinshyson Club Fly-In Pioneer Field near Harold Warp s Pioneer Vilshylage BBQ Friday night for early arriva ls Saturday night banq uet and awards Schedu led events Fly-In Chairman Bob Near 2702 Butterfoot Lane Hastings Nebraska 68901 402463-9309

JULY 15middot16 - LOCKPORT ILLINOI S - Chapter 15 and 86 of the Ch icago area EAA are now formulating plans for their 18th Annua l Fly-In and Air Show to be held at Lewis University In shyformation Janice P Fish PO 411 Lemont Illinoi s 60439

JULY 15-16 - LONG ISLAND NEW YORK - Antique Airp lane Club of Grea ter New York 16th Annual Fly- In Brookhaven Airport Brookhaven Long Island New York

JULY 16 - DUNKIRK NEW YORK - A nnual Fly-In Breakfast sponsored by EAA Chapter 46 and Dunkirk Rotary Free breakshyfast to homebui lders antique and warbi rd pilots Trophies in all EAA classes Spot landing contest on arrival Contact Charles Gallagher 19 Shelby Drive Buffalo New York 14225

JULY 21-23 - COFFEYVILLE KANSAS - Funk Fly- In Funk owners pilots and friends invited Fly-b ys factory and museum tours banquet Contact G Dale Beach 1621 Dreher Street Sacramento California 95814 o r Joe C Funk 2409 Edgevale Drive Coffeyshyville Kansas 67337

JULY 29 - AUGUST 5 - OSHKOSH WISCONSIN - 26th Ann ual EAA FlY-in Plan now - its the greatest show on eart h

AUGUST 6-12 - LAKELAND FLORIDA - International Cessna 170 Associat ion Conven tion Lakeland Florida

AUGUST 7-12 - FOND DU LAC WISCONSIN - 13th Annua l EAN lAC Internationa l Aeroba tic Championships For further informashytion conta ct Sam Maxwell 2116 Erie North Kansas City MO 64116

EAA ANTIQUECLASSIC DIVISION

MEMBERSHIP DRIVE

~~air of Antique Goggles by persuading 5 people to JOin

er A Leather Flying Helmet when you get 10 people to sign up

- then start over and win again

~A free five year membershyship in the AntiqueClassic Division if you sponsor the most new members in 1978

To Qualify Write your name and membershyship number on the back of the membershyship b lanks we ve been providing in THE VIN TA GE AIRPLAN E Headq uarters w ill keep sco re

25

1 I~rlII~llS Dear Sir

I am trying to get information on an aircraft that was built during the 20s called the Golden Eagle Chief It was a parasol wing powered by a radial engine type unshyknown Only about seven were built If any of your Antique classic division members know anything about this aircraft I would like to get in touch with them

I would like to take this opportunity to express what an outstanding organization I think the EAA is Ive only been a member for three years and only regret the years before I joined SPORT AVIATION is one of the best publications that I have ever read I have been to Oshkosh twice and to quite a few local fly-ins including Sun N Fun and have never seen anything more organized or better run I am looking forward to Oshkosh 78 and to continued membership in a fine organization

Sincerely james E Spradley (EAA 108947) PO Box 146 Rutledge Alabama 36071

Dear Mr Nielander Your editorial in the February issue of The Vinshy

tage Airplane is the best expression of the question of who is really qualified to maintain antique and classic aircraft (this applies equally well to some curshyrent aircraft such as the Bellanca Viking etc)

I submit the following recommendation as a way to offset some of the difficulties expressed in your excellent editorial to wit

The FAA should grant an A and E (or P) mechanics license to an individual who meets the following qualifications

(1) Passes three written examinations now required for the rating

(2) Passes the practical examination currently reshyquired

(3) Can show that he has actually done the major portion of the work in the restoration of an antique or classic airplane

You will note that the difference between these requirements and the current FAR part 65 requireshyments is the modification of sec 6577 which relates to on-the-job or schooling experience

From my own experience in restoring three airshyplanes (Luscombe Stinson Reliant Beechcraft B17L) I know that the amount of honest-to-God airplane and engine work in the usual restoration project is in exshycess of the stuff that the students in the approved

mechanic schools get Moreover during the 30 months practical experience referred to in FAR 6577 a lot of that time is spent just removing cowlings cleanshying sparkplugs changing tires sweeping floors pumpshying gas and plowing snow I guess what Im trying to do is build a case which shows that the antique classic restorer or homebuilder knows just as much about airplanes in general as does the individual who qualifies under the current provisions of FAR sec 6577

Very truly yours Thomas R Rench 1601 Circlewood Drive Racine Wisconsin 53402

Dear AI Perhaps I can shed a little light on the centershy

fold of the February issue of The Vintage Airplane The two planes pictured in the center of the page

are Top picture Wright Martin (Loening) M-8 Botshytom picture is an Ansaldo SVA-5 or SVA-9

The Loen ing was manufactured by the Wright Marshytin Corp and was built in 1921-1922 The factory deSignation was M-8

The Army Air Service designation was PW-2 PWshy2A and PW-2B Two of the PW-2 model were built in 1921 Gross weight was 2788 Ibs span 39 8 length 24 2 Ten of the PW-2A model were ordered by the Air Service but the order was cancelled after four were built in 1922 Gross weight was 2799 Ibs span 39 9 length 26 1

The PW2B was evaluated in 1922 but was never built Gross weight was to be 2976 Ibs span 34 1 length 23 4

PW-2 and PW-2A were powered by the Wright Martin H of 320 hp which was a Hisso built under license The PW2-B was to be powered by a 350 hp Packard engine

The Ansaldo can be either an SVA-5 or SVA-9 as the front view doesnt show whether it is a two place or single place The SVA-5 was single place while the SVA-9 was two place Both were powered by the Breda SPA-6A engine which was 6 cylinders and rated at 200 hp at 1600 rpm

I understand that there is an SVA-5 in a museum in Connecticut but I am not sure of this

Hope this information will be of some use to you Best regards H M Harkcom Harkcom Aircraft Service Rt 1 Inola Oklahoma

Dear AI In the February issue j R Nielander wrote an in shy

teresting editorial concerning the possibilities in the area of personal certification of antique aircraft by the owner restorer

Without blowing my own horn too loud I have worked with antiquers and others for the last 28 years doing what j R talks about signing off work for non-rated owners A lot of these people are really sharp and most do above average work and should be allowed to cut it on their own somehow

I think the key to this thing is for the FAA to set up a program whereby the interested antiquer could satisfy them that he is qualified to restore and mainshytain his antique This may not be as far away from FAA thinking as one might imagine as there has been talk around for some time at lower levels that the AampE ratings cover too much area for the average mechanic In other words the thinking in some areas of the FAA is that specialized ratings might be needed to have better qualified people in the field where needed If this thinking is still being kicked around in the FAA then the people in the antique field would fit into the thinking already floating around

A specialized rating for antiquers that covered about what was in old manual 18 would not be diffi shycult to qualify for I would favor two ratings along the lines of the AampP If an antiquer did not want to get into the mechanics of engines he could go after an airframe rating only If he wanted to be able to annual his antique then of course he would have to hold both tickets To satisfy the FARs and the inshysurance companies I think the antique rating apshyproach has good merit

I have talked to several antiquers not rated and they all said that they would be happy to work toshyward a limited type rating that would allow them unrestricted labor on their own aircraft They all feel that they should have this opportunity and I concur I have not always been happy to sign off work as an IA due to the fact that there is no such thing as direct supervision even if you are in the same room all the time Also I have seen the FAA just as uneasy mostly because they as a whole are far from qualified to judge most antiques

Well hope this fills a small gap in the ove rall picture If I can be of further help in any way please let me know

Sincerely Bob Younkin 55 Appleby Road Razorback Airport Fayetteville Arkansas 72701 26

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Airtex interior upholstery items are all made up into complete assemblies ready for you to install Your choice of three fabric styles and twenty colors Luxurious cut pile carpets in seven colors wrinkleshyfree Duraliner headliners baggage compartshyments seat slings and fire wall covers are also available for Classic planes

RE-COVER ENVELOPES Available for all Classics and some Antique models in Ceconjte 101 102 and cotton Airtex makes the worlds finest envelopes

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land model The floats give it a big plane feeling says Bill

Stalls with a floating 140 are similar to the land configuration and intentional spins are strictly verbotten

When Bill bought the plane in 1963 it was on the floats but he couldnt get it off the water The floats leaked Experimentation revealed that the keel opened up on a take-off run so they were replaced Later he added spray rails which eliminated the center wake and brought the plane up onto the step quicker

In the wintertime the floats are replaced with skis and Bill goes out to race the ice boats Between

he floats and the skis the wheels havent been on the 140 for several years now When he wants to bounce around a paved runway he heads off to Fall River Airport haul s out a 170-B (of which he owns 1115th) and renews his acquaintance with toe brakes and squealing rubber

Like a growing number of people in EAA Bill divides his time between flying one project and tinkershying with another Hes lucky enough to have an Aeronca 15 AC Sedan as that other project He picked it up a couple years ago at a price that would take the wind out of some people Ask anyone who knows Bill or his close friend Fred Chew and theyll tell you that those two guys deserve a special suit that says SUPER-SCROUNGERS across the chest They have uncanny talents at picking up materials for nothing or next to it More than once in recent history theyve plucked chicken feathers out of an old Continental or Lycoming that was retrieved from the dark corner of a barn for around $100 (Actually Bills just finished a two-year term as President of EAA Chapter 51 in Middletown Rhode Island and Freds still the Chapter Designee - they have both done an excellent job)

When the opportunity arose they dickered and diddled and sang the song of a snake charmer until they could come home with a smile and that particular Sedan

Naturally the plane needed a little work The previous owner had argued with a pine tree The tree not only won but took the left wing as a prize The Aeronca was apparently so shocked by the action that it pulled back and stood up on the right wing as if to say I beg your pardon When things got back to level the right tip was mashed

How many times do you suppose guys like Bill and Fred have set out to unbend a wing but wound

(Fred Chew photo)

Off and flying the 140 is a marginal performer on hot days with a full load

(Fred Chew photo)

This Cessna 140 has been a regular feature in Bills back- yard for 15 years

up rebuilding the entire machine You can add their names to the list

One thing Bill quickly points out is that he and Fred are not engaged in a full-scale down-to-theshylast-screw restoration project Nope When it flies again i t will still be clearly recognizable as an Aeronca Sedan but there are some (approved ) changes in store Most obvious is the addition of brackets for float struts A presto-change-o routine with a few bolts will convert the plane from land to sea or vice versa

Conveniently it so happened that the greatest crash damage occurred on the left side Fred happily ripped out the bent tubes bent a few new ones and followed the STC cookbook for installing a left side door that opens upwards to the wing Its an approved mod for a seaplane configuration

(David Gustafson photo) Progress in the rebuild ing effort is evi shydent in this shot o f th e Sedan th e left wing attachment has been repaired the fusel age has been blas ted and primed the new left door frame is complete and a new headlin er s being installed

(Fred Chew photo) after abrupt removshy

18

Each of the large metal wings originally contained 20 gallon rubber gas bladders (say that three times) and both leaked after the crash Replacement cost was $700 apiece so the wing panels were torn off and Fred bent up a couple of metal tanks that are larger than the originals Between the tanks and the twisted metal from the crash Fred figures hes disshymantled at least 80 per cent of the wings and replaced 50 per cent of the total materials Included are a number of ribs shaped by hand on wooden formers which were also hand etched from the pieces bound for the junk heap That translates into a lot of aluminum the wing span is 376 with a chord in excess of 5 feet which produces 200 square feet of wing area In the end Fred will be able to reproduce any curved part of the Sedans wing and yes he plans to come up with quotes for others needing help (write Fred Chew 158 Meridian Street Fall River Massach usetts 02720)

With the Clark Y airfoil and a Continental 145 horsepower engine the Sedan leaps off the ground almost as fast as a two-place Cub When you turn it into a Seadan by adding a couple EDO 2000s it breaks surf suction with a simple hop skip and a slurping leap The only drawback is that with the 2000s you cant hop unless there are only two people on board With four people and full tanks the floats become submarines As a result the two resourceful metal benders who plan to build their own floats are giving serious thought to making something bigshyger

(David Gustafson photo)

Detail of the float attachment fitting

Bills Aeronca was built in 1948 and like most classics its alread~ changed hands a few times Dr Paul Nussbaum was the first to drop mud on the carpets in 49 John Ru sh moved it from Missouri to Ohio ten years later After another decade a pair of partners in Pennsylvania flew it for awhile and then left it with another partnership in New York Gerry Broskin and Harris Gordon revamped the panel and went IFR Soon after that it became the answer to a dream for Ron and Diane Rissone in Randolph Massachusetts But then there was this pine tree That brings the odyssey of N1365H to Bill Walsh hangar and private seaplane base

The next time Bills Sedan sees another runway itll obviously be sporting rebuilt wings and new float brackets in addition there ll be a new windshield all new woodwork new ceconite new headliner new used back seats (from a Tri-Pacer yet) a new panel (still IFR) and discussion has already started about a total engine overhaul

Theres one other new item in the works for the Sedan When its checked out on its wheels again there ll be a streamlined gas tank nestled in the gear bay You see Bill and Fred have promised themselves this extended tour of South America once they finish

Then the Sedan will bob in the harbor beside the Cessna and Bill can wrestle with the question which one do I fly today

(David Gustafson photo)

Fred Chew holds up the new tip hes built for the right wing

(David Gustafson photo)

Bill Walsh displys the seaplane door thats being installed on the left side of th e Sedan

19

Restoration Tips a photo essay provided by

Fred Chew 158 Meridian St

Fall River Mass 02720

(Note Freds kept an exce llent photo record of the process of rebuilding the wings for Bill Walshs Aeronca Sedan It gives a good idea of how to do it and how much works involved)

No2 - Teardown reveals the damage No4 - Line up new to old

No 1 - Last step before rebuilding

20

Aeronca Sedan spar repair 7976 (Right wing) No5 - Extrusion repair

No8 - Removing old section No 10 - Repair of extrusion spar No6 - Horizontal-line up

No7 - New piece made ready for hole flare No9 - Ready for spar extrusion repair No 17 - New piece in place for riveting

21

No 12 - Nose rib in place No 15 - Form to fit inside of old damaged spar tip rib NO 78 - Hand form mg

No 73 - C1eco nose rib to spa r No 16 - 032 alclad ready to be clamped in form No 79 - Flanging spar tip

No 74 - Ready to repair rear spar No 77 - Form ready for hand bending jig for lightening holes No 20 - More of same 22

No 27 - Trim off excess flange No 24 - Test fit to spar No 27 - 032 alclad 2024 TJ

No 22 - Trim square to form No 25 - Fly cutting lightening holes No 28 - Spar tip ready for installation

No 23 - Remove from form No 26 - Flanging No 29 - Clecos test line up 23

The Babv Cessna

It was born in Wichita Kansas at the Cessna fac-shytory in 1929 Because of the stock market slump the Airplane manufacturing business fell off drasshytically To try and keep the plant in operation Eldon Cessna decided to design and build a light airplane that could be sold at a low price As a result the EC-1 was developed It was powered with a 25 hp Cleone engine

At the time I was enrolled at the Braley School of Flying which was located directly across the road to the east of the Cessna field I spent much of my spare time at the field watching the men work on and fly the Baby Cessna It was a fascinating little airplane

Early last year I was looking for a suitable airshyplane to model for a C02 Powered model airplane contest I remembered the Baby Cessna and thought it would be just what I wanted

In doing research for drawings and photos I found that photos of both the EC-1 and the EC-2 were available but no drawings I had a photo of the EC-1 that I had taken with my Brownie box camera The EC-2 looked cleaner with its design refinements and the Aeronca E-107 engine

I met Eldon Cessna at-an OX5 get-to-gether at the Santa Paula Airport and we discussed the EC-2 at length He informed me that plans had never been published The EC-2 (cn 253 N405W) was the last Baby Cessna built

From the photos and from memory of being around the Baby Cessna these plans for a model were drawn Imagine what a delightful fun airplane it would be for a homebuilt replica project today These specifications appeared in the 1930 issue of Air Age magazine

Baby Cessna EC-2 (cn253 N405W) 30 hp Aeronca E-707A

bull 1

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By Cedric Calloway EAA 752

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~ --~ THE BABY CESSNA

Span 34 ft 11 in Wing area 163 sq ft Length overall 20 ft 4 in Height overall bull 5 ft 6 in Weights

Empty 470 Ibs Gross 925 Ibs

Gasoline capacity 8 gal Oil capacity 34 gal Power (Aeronca E-107A) 30 hp

PERFORMANCE

High speed 86 mph Cruising speed 70 mph Stalling speed 38 mph Climb first minute 740 ft Ceiling (service) 15000 ft Cruising range 200 miles

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1 I~rlII~llS Dear Sir

I am trying to get information on an aircraft that was built during the 20s called the Golden Eagle Chief It was a parasol wing powered by a radial engine type unshyknown Only about seven were built If any of your Antique classic division members know anything about this aircraft I would like to get in touch with them

I would like to take this opportunity to express what an outstanding organization I think the EAA is Ive only been a member for three years and only regret the years before I joined SPORT AVIATION is one of the best publications that I have ever read I have been to Oshkosh twice and to quite a few local fly-ins including Sun N Fun and have never seen anything more organized or better run I am looking forward to Oshkosh 78 and to continued membership in a fine organization

Sincerely james E Spradley (EAA 108947) PO Box 146 Rutledge Alabama 36071

Dear Mr Nielander Your editorial in the February issue of The Vinshy

tage Airplane is the best expression of the question of who is really qualified to maintain antique and classic aircraft (this applies equally well to some curshyrent aircraft such as the Bellanca Viking etc)

I submit the following recommendation as a way to offset some of the difficulties expressed in your excellent editorial to wit

The FAA should grant an A and E (or P) mechanics license to an individual who meets the following qualifications

(1) Passes three written examinations now required for the rating

(2) Passes the practical examination currently reshyquired

(3) Can show that he has actually done the major portion of the work in the restoration of an antique or classic airplane

You will note that the difference between these requirements and the current FAR part 65 requireshyments is the modification of sec 6577 which relates to on-the-job or schooling experience

From my own experience in restoring three airshyplanes (Luscombe Stinson Reliant Beechcraft B17L) I know that the amount of honest-to-God airplane and engine work in the usual restoration project is in exshycess of the stuff that the students in the approved

mechanic schools get Moreover during the 30 months practical experience referred to in FAR 6577 a lot of that time is spent just removing cowlings cleanshying sparkplugs changing tires sweeping floors pumpshying gas and plowing snow I guess what Im trying to do is build a case which shows that the antique classic restorer or homebuilder knows just as much about airplanes in general as does the individual who qualifies under the current provisions of FAR sec 6577

Very truly yours Thomas R Rench 1601 Circlewood Drive Racine Wisconsin 53402

Dear AI Perhaps I can shed a little light on the centershy

fold of the February issue of The Vintage Airplane The two planes pictured in the center of the page

are Top picture Wright Martin (Loening) M-8 Botshytom picture is an Ansaldo SVA-5 or SVA-9

The Loen ing was manufactured by the Wright Marshytin Corp and was built in 1921-1922 The factory deSignation was M-8

The Army Air Service designation was PW-2 PWshy2A and PW-2B Two of the PW-2 model were built in 1921 Gross weight was 2788 Ibs span 39 8 length 24 2 Ten of the PW-2A model were ordered by the Air Service but the order was cancelled after four were built in 1922 Gross weight was 2799 Ibs span 39 9 length 26 1

The PW2B was evaluated in 1922 but was never built Gross weight was to be 2976 Ibs span 34 1 length 23 4

PW-2 and PW-2A were powered by the Wright Martin H of 320 hp which was a Hisso built under license The PW2-B was to be powered by a 350 hp Packard engine

The Ansaldo can be either an SVA-5 or SVA-9 as the front view doesnt show whether it is a two place or single place The SVA-5 was single place while the SVA-9 was two place Both were powered by the Breda SPA-6A engine which was 6 cylinders and rated at 200 hp at 1600 rpm

I understand that there is an SVA-5 in a museum in Connecticut but I am not sure of this

Hope this information will be of some use to you Best regards H M Harkcom Harkcom Aircraft Service Rt 1 Inola Oklahoma

Dear AI In the February issue j R Nielander wrote an in shy

teresting editorial concerning the possibilities in the area of personal certification of antique aircraft by the owner restorer

Without blowing my own horn too loud I have worked with antiquers and others for the last 28 years doing what j R talks about signing off work for non-rated owners A lot of these people are really sharp and most do above average work and should be allowed to cut it on their own somehow

I think the key to this thing is for the FAA to set up a program whereby the interested antiquer could satisfy them that he is qualified to restore and mainshytain his antique This may not be as far away from FAA thinking as one might imagine as there has been talk around for some time at lower levels that the AampE ratings cover too much area for the average mechanic In other words the thinking in some areas of the FAA is that specialized ratings might be needed to have better qualified people in the field where needed If this thinking is still being kicked around in the FAA then the people in the antique field would fit into the thinking already floating around

A specialized rating for antiquers that covered about what was in old manual 18 would not be diffi shycult to qualify for I would favor two ratings along the lines of the AampP If an antiquer did not want to get into the mechanics of engines he could go after an airframe rating only If he wanted to be able to annual his antique then of course he would have to hold both tickets To satisfy the FARs and the inshysurance companies I think the antique rating apshyproach has good merit

I have talked to several antiquers not rated and they all said that they would be happy to work toshyward a limited type rating that would allow them unrestricted labor on their own aircraft They all feel that they should have this opportunity and I concur I have not always been happy to sign off work as an IA due to the fact that there is no such thing as direct supervision even if you are in the same room all the time Also I have seen the FAA just as uneasy mostly because they as a whole are far from qualified to judge most antiques

Well hope this fills a small gap in the ove rall picture If I can be of further help in any way please let me know

Sincerely Bob Younkin 55 Appleby Road Razorback Airport Fayetteville Arkansas 72701 26

Are you restoring a Classic

)(U1t dJ4 ~~

I~

Jj FINISH IT RIGHT WITH AN

4~ INTERIOR All Items Designed for Easy

DOmiddotITmiddot YOURSELF INSTALLATION

~~ CUSHION UPHOLSTERY SETS UPHOLSTERED FOAM CUSHION SETS

WALL PANEL SETS bull HEADLINERSmiddot CARPETS

Airtex interior upholstery items are all made up into complete assemblies ready for you to install Your choice of three fabric styles and twenty colors Luxurious cut pile carpets in seven colors wrinkleshyfree Duraliner headliners baggage compartshyments seat slings and fire wall covers are also available for Classic planes

RE-COVER ENVELOPES Available for all Classics and some Antique models in Ceconjte 101 102 and cotton Airtex makes the worlds finest envelopes

rodolplpound AIRCRAFT FINISHES Nitrate amp butyrate dope enamelurethane thinners reducer retarder and primers Complete stock of re-covering supplies

Send $100 for Catalog and Our Fabrics Selection Guide

(iIziea p~ Jnc DEPT R LOWER MORRISVILLE ROAD

FALLSINGTON PA 19054

(215) 295-4115

27

Page 17: Vintage Airplane - Jun 1978

up rebuilding the entire machine You can add their names to the list

One thing Bill quickly points out is that he and Fred are not engaged in a full-scale down-to-theshylast-screw restoration project Nope When it flies again i t will still be clearly recognizable as an Aeronca Sedan but there are some (approved ) changes in store Most obvious is the addition of brackets for float struts A presto-change-o routine with a few bolts will convert the plane from land to sea or vice versa

Conveniently it so happened that the greatest crash damage occurred on the left side Fred happily ripped out the bent tubes bent a few new ones and followed the STC cookbook for installing a left side door that opens upwards to the wing Its an approved mod for a seaplane configuration

(David Gustafson photo) Progress in the rebuild ing effort is evi shydent in this shot o f th e Sedan th e left wing attachment has been repaired the fusel age has been blas ted and primed the new left door frame is complete and a new headlin er s being installed

(Fred Chew photo) after abrupt removshy

18

Each of the large metal wings originally contained 20 gallon rubber gas bladders (say that three times) and both leaked after the crash Replacement cost was $700 apiece so the wing panels were torn off and Fred bent up a couple of metal tanks that are larger than the originals Between the tanks and the twisted metal from the crash Fred figures hes disshymantled at least 80 per cent of the wings and replaced 50 per cent of the total materials Included are a number of ribs shaped by hand on wooden formers which were also hand etched from the pieces bound for the junk heap That translates into a lot of aluminum the wing span is 376 with a chord in excess of 5 feet which produces 200 square feet of wing area In the end Fred will be able to reproduce any curved part of the Sedans wing and yes he plans to come up with quotes for others needing help (write Fred Chew 158 Meridian Street Fall River Massach usetts 02720)

With the Clark Y airfoil and a Continental 145 horsepower engine the Sedan leaps off the ground almost as fast as a two-place Cub When you turn it into a Seadan by adding a couple EDO 2000s it breaks surf suction with a simple hop skip and a slurping leap The only drawback is that with the 2000s you cant hop unless there are only two people on board With four people and full tanks the floats become submarines As a result the two resourceful metal benders who plan to build their own floats are giving serious thought to making something bigshyger

(David Gustafson photo)

Detail of the float attachment fitting

Bills Aeronca was built in 1948 and like most classics its alread~ changed hands a few times Dr Paul Nussbaum was the first to drop mud on the carpets in 49 John Ru sh moved it from Missouri to Ohio ten years later After another decade a pair of partners in Pennsylvania flew it for awhile and then left it with another partnership in New York Gerry Broskin and Harris Gordon revamped the panel and went IFR Soon after that it became the answer to a dream for Ron and Diane Rissone in Randolph Massachusetts But then there was this pine tree That brings the odyssey of N1365H to Bill Walsh hangar and private seaplane base

The next time Bills Sedan sees another runway itll obviously be sporting rebuilt wings and new float brackets in addition there ll be a new windshield all new woodwork new ceconite new headliner new used back seats (from a Tri-Pacer yet) a new panel (still IFR) and discussion has already started about a total engine overhaul

Theres one other new item in the works for the Sedan When its checked out on its wheels again there ll be a streamlined gas tank nestled in the gear bay You see Bill and Fred have promised themselves this extended tour of South America once they finish

Then the Sedan will bob in the harbor beside the Cessna and Bill can wrestle with the question which one do I fly today

(David Gustafson photo)

Fred Chew holds up the new tip hes built for the right wing

(David Gustafson photo)

Bill Walsh displys the seaplane door thats being installed on the left side of th e Sedan

19

Restoration Tips a photo essay provided by

Fred Chew 158 Meridian St

Fall River Mass 02720

(Note Freds kept an exce llent photo record of the process of rebuilding the wings for Bill Walshs Aeronca Sedan It gives a good idea of how to do it and how much works involved)

No2 - Teardown reveals the damage No4 - Line up new to old

No 1 - Last step before rebuilding

20

Aeronca Sedan spar repair 7976 (Right wing) No5 - Extrusion repair

No8 - Removing old section No 10 - Repair of extrusion spar No6 - Horizontal-line up

No7 - New piece made ready for hole flare No9 - Ready for spar extrusion repair No 17 - New piece in place for riveting

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No 12 - Nose rib in place No 15 - Form to fit inside of old damaged spar tip rib NO 78 - Hand form mg

No 73 - C1eco nose rib to spa r No 16 - 032 alclad ready to be clamped in form No 79 - Flanging spar tip

No 74 - Ready to repair rear spar No 77 - Form ready for hand bending jig for lightening holes No 20 - More of same 22

No 27 - Trim off excess flange No 24 - Test fit to spar No 27 - 032 alclad 2024 TJ

No 22 - Trim square to form No 25 - Fly cutting lightening holes No 28 - Spar tip ready for installation

No 23 - Remove from form No 26 - Flanging No 29 - Clecos test line up 23

The Babv Cessna

It was born in Wichita Kansas at the Cessna fac-shytory in 1929 Because of the stock market slump the Airplane manufacturing business fell off drasshytically To try and keep the plant in operation Eldon Cessna decided to design and build a light airplane that could be sold at a low price As a result the EC-1 was developed It was powered with a 25 hp Cleone engine

At the time I was enrolled at the Braley School of Flying which was located directly across the road to the east of the Cessna field I spent much of my spare time at the field watching the men work on and fly the Baby Cessna It was a fascinating little airplane

Early last year I was looking for a suitable airshyplane to model for a C02 Powered model airplane contest I remembered the Baby Cessna and thought it would be just what I wanted

In doing research for drawings and photos I found that photos of both the EC-1 and the EC-2 were available but no drawings I had a photo of the EC-1 that I had taken with my Brownie box camera The EC-2 looked cleaner with its design refinements and the Aeronca E-107 engine

I met Eldon Cessna at-an OX5 get-to-gether at the Santa Paula Airport and we discussed the EC-2 at length He informed me that plans had never been published The EC-2 (cn 253 N405W) was the last Baby Cessna built

From the photos and from memory of being around the Baby Cessna these plans for a model were drawn Imagine what a delightful fun airplane it would be for a homebuilt replica project today These specifications appeared in the 1930 issue of Air Age magazine

Baby Cessna EC-2 (cn253 N405W) 30 hp Aeronca E-707A

bull 1

Baby Cessna EC-7 (cn 257 N403W) 25 hp Cleone 1930

By Cedric Calloway EAA 752

74624 Willow Street Hesperia CA 92345

~ --~ THE BABY CESSNA

Span 34 ft 11 in Wing area 163 sq ft Length overall 20 ft 4 in Height overall bull 5 ft 6 in Weights

Empty 470 Ibs Gross 925 Ibs

Gasoline capacity 8 gal Oil capacity 34 gal Power (Aeronca E-107A) 30 hp

PERFORMANCE

High speed 86 mph Cruising speed 70 mph Stalling speed 38 mph Climb first minute 740 ft Ceiling (service) 15000 ft Cruising range 200 miles

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65 Continental - Approx 1000 hrs Logs Complete except for one mag 414387middot4895

Two Continental aircraft engines for sale Crated and ready for shipment Continental Amiddot75-8 OSMO - Total Time 1386 hrs Crankshaft - standard size - pistons 015 over Comshyplete less carbo Complete logs Price - $185000 Continenshytal A-65-8 OSMO - Total Time 218 hrs Pistons and crankshyshaft - standard size Complete less harness Complete logs Price - $225000 Jon J Thompson telephone 804 285-2929 9 AM - 5 PM Monday through Friday

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Custom built props for Con tin ental Lycoming GPUs etc Fast delivery Chad Wille 5957 Sevi ll e St Lake Grove OR 97034

ARROW SPORT reduction gear and o il pan for Ford V-8 flatshyhead engine new Mark Dees 358 S Beverly Dr Beverly Hill s CA 90212 213552-0192

WANTED Any information concerning the Lincoln Sport Biplane produced in Lincoln Nebraska in the 1920s (parshytial plans shown in the 1930 Flying and Glider Manual ) Mr Harry R Owen Box 304 Isanti MN 55040

Calendar of Events JUNE 9-11 - SPRINGFIELD OHIO - 2nd Annual Spring EAA Midshy

Eastern Regional Fly-In (ME RFI ) Air Show awards on airport camping static displays etc Please check NOTAMS Contact Myrna Lewi s 241 Bassett Drive Springfie ld Ohio 44506 5131 323-2424

JUNE 16-18 - ANDERSON INDIANA - Second Annual Cessna 120shy140 Assn Fly- In and meeting Quad City Municipal Airport Moshyline Ill inois For information con tact Frank Han cock SecfTreas 3941 West Cross St Anderson IN 46011317643-1593

JUNE 17middot18 - FREDERICKSBURG VIRG INIA - Antique Aircraft FlyshyIn Shannon Airport Air Show attract ions Bob Hoover Bob Rus shysell and Duane Cole

JUNE 21middot26 - TULLAHOMA TENNESSEE - Annual Staggerwingl Travel Air International Convention Forums formation fl yi ng and fun Contad John Parish clo Lannom Mfg Co Tullahoma Tennessee 38388 615455-0691

JUNE 23middot25 - HAMILTON OHIO - Annual National Waco Reunion Fly-In Contact Ray Brandly 2650 W Alex-Bell Rd Dayton OH 45459 513435-9725

JULY 1-2 - GAINESVILLE GEORGIA - 11th Annual Cracker Fly-In at Lee-Gilmer Airport Awards will be presented in all categories O ur banquet will be at the Gainesville Ho liday Inn Saturday night July 2 Len Povey has accepted an invitation to be guest speaker Accommodations - Gainesvi lle Holiday Inn and other local motels Information Jim Ealy 3535 Childers Road Roswell Georgia 30075 404993-4568

JULY 1-9 - BLAKESBURG IOWA - Wright Brothers 75th Annivershysary Fly-In at th e Antique Airfield In cl udes World War II PT and Liaison Plane Fly-In July 1-3 Fairchild Club Fly-In and Unique Airshyplane Fly-In July 8-9

JULY 9 - EASTON PENNSYLVANIA - 2nd Annual Aeronca FlyshyIn Easton Airport 10 AM to 230 PM open to all types of Aeroncas Rain date July 16 Contact Jim Polles 2151759-3713 nights and weekends

JULY 14-16 - MINDEN NEBRASKA - Second Annual National Stinshyson Club Fly-In Pioneer Field near Harold Warp s Pioneer Vilshylage BBQ Friday night for early arriva ls Saturday night banq uet and awards Schedu led events Fly-In Chairman Bob Near 2702 Butterfoot Lane Hastings Nebraska 68901 402463-9309

JULY 15middot16 - LOCKPORT ILLINOI S - Chapter 15 and 86 of the Ch icago area EAA are now formulating plans for their 18th Annua l Fly-In and Air Show to be held at Lewis University In shyformation Janice P Fish PO 411 Lemont Illinoi s 60439

JULY 15-16 - LONG ISLAND NEW YORK - Antique Airp lane Club of Grea ter New York 16th Annual Fly- In Brookhaven Airport Brookhaven Long Island New York

JULY 16 - DUNKIRK NEW YORK - A nnual Fly-In Breakfast sponsored by EAA Chapter 46 and Dunkirk Rotary Free breakshyfast to homebui lders antique and warbi rd pilots Trophies in all EAA classes Spot landing contest on arrival Contact Charles Gallagher 19 Shelby Drive Buffalo New York 14225

JULY 21-23 - COFFEYVILLE KANSAS - Funk Fly- In Funk owners pilots and friends invited Fly-b ys factory and museum tours banquet Contact G Dale Beach 1621 Dreher Street Sacramento California 95814 o r Joe C Funk 2409 Edgevale Drive Coffeyshyville Kansas 67337

JULY 29 - AUGUST 5 - OSHKOSH WISCONSIN - 26th Ann ual EAA FlY-in Plan now - its the greatest show on eart h

AUGUST 6-12 - LAKELAND FLORIDA - International Cessna 170 Associat ion Conven tion Lakeland Florida

AUGUST 7-12 - FOND DU LAC WISCONSIN - 13th Annua l EAN lAC Internationa l Aeroba tic Championships For further informashytion conta ct Sam Maxwell 2116 Erie North Kansas City MO 64116

EAA ANTIQUECLASSIC DIVISION

MEMBERSHIP DRIVE

~~air of Antique Goggles by persuading 5 people to JOin

er A Leather Flying Helmet when you get 10 people to sign up

- then start over and win again

~A free five year membershyship in the AntiqueClassic Division if you sponsor the most new members in 1978

To Qualify Write your name and membershyship number on the back of the membershyship b lanks we ve been providing in THE VIN TA GE AIRPLAN E Headq uarters w ill keep sco re

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1 I~rlII~llS Dear Sir

I am trying to get information on an aircraft that was built during the 20s called the Golden Eagle Chief It was a parasol wing powered by a radial engine type unshyknown Only about seven were built If any of your Antique classic division members know anything about this aircraft I would like to get in touch with them

I would like to take this opportunity to express what an outstanding organization I think the EAA is Ive only been a member for three years and only regret the years before I joined SPORT AVIATION is one of the best publications that I have ever read I have been to Oshkosh twice and to quite a few local fly-ins including Sun N Fun and have never seen anything more organized or better run I am looking forward to Oshkosh 78 and to continued membership in a fine organization

Sincerely james E Spradley (EAA 108947) PO Box 146 Rutledge Alabama 36071

Dear Mr Nielander Your editorial in the February issue of The Vinshy

tage Airplane is the best expression of the question of who is really qualified to maintain antique and classic aircraft (this applies equally well to some curshyrent aircraft such as the Bellanca Viking etc)

I submit the following recommendation as a way to offset some of the difficulties expressed in your excellent editorial to wit

The FAA should grant an A and E (or P) mechanics license to an individual who meets the following qualifications

(1) Passes three written examinations now required for the rating

(2) Passes the practical examination currently reshyquired

(3) Can show that he has actually done the major portion of the work in the restoration of an antique or classic airplane

You will note that the difference between these requirements and the current FAR part 65 requireshyments is the modification of sec 6577 which relates to on-the-job or schooling experience

From my own experience in restoring three airshyplanes (Luscombe Stinson Reliant Beechcraft B17L) I know that the amount of honest-to-God airplane and engine work in the usual restoration project is in exshycess of the stuff that the students in the approved

mechanic schools get Moreover during the 30 months practical experience referred to in FAR 6577 a lot of that time is spent just removing cowlings cleanshying sparkplugs changing tires sweeping floors pumpshying gas and plowing snow I guess what Im trying to do is build a case which shows that the antique classic restorer or homebuilder knows just as much about airplanes in general as does the individual who qualifies under the current provisions of FAR sec 6577

Very truly yours Thomas R Rench 1601 Circlewood Drive Racine Wisconsin 53402

Dear AI Perhaps I can shed a little light on the centershy

fold of the February issue of The Vintage Airplane The two planes pictured in the center of the page

are Top picture Wright Martin (Loening) M-8 Botshytom picture is an Ansaldo SVA-5 or SVA-9

The Loen ing was manufactured by the Wright Marshytin Corp and was built in 1921-1922 The factory deSignation was M-8

The Army Air Service designation was PW-2 PWshy2A and PW-2B Two of the PW-2 model were built in 1921 Gross weight was 2788 Ibs span 39 8 length 24 2 Ten of the PW-2A model were ordered by the Air Service but the order was cancelled after four were built in 1922 Gross weight was 2799 Ibs span 39 9 length 26 1

The PW2B was evaluated in 1922 but was never built Gross weight was to be 2976 Ibs span 34 1 length 23 4

PW-2 and PW-2A were powered by the Wright Martin H of 320 hp which was a Hisso built under license The PW2-B was to be powered by a 350 hp Packard engine

The Ansaldo can be either an SVA-5 or SVA-9 as the front view doesnt show whether it is a two place or single place The SVA-5 was single place while the SVA-9 was two place Both were powered by the Breda SPA-6A engine which was 6 cylinders and rated at 200 hp at 1600 rpm

I understand that there is an SVA-5 in a museum in Connecticut but I am not sure of this

Hope this information will be of some use to you Best regards H M Harkcom Harkcom Aircraft Service Rt 1 Inola Oklahoma

Dear AI In the February issue j R Nielander wrote an in shy

teresting editorial concerning the possibilities in the area of personal certification of antique aircraft by the owner restorer

Without blowing my own horn too loud I have worked with antiquers and others for the last 28 years doing what j R talks about signing off work for non-rated owners A lot of these people are really sharp and most do above average work and should be allowed to cut it on their own somehow

I think the key to this thing is for the FAA to set up a program whereby the interested antiquer could satisfy them that he is qualified to restore and mainshytain his antique This may not be as far away from FAA thinking as one might imagine as there has been talk around for some time at lower levels that the AampE ratings cover too much area for the average mechanic In other words the thinking in some areas of the FAA is that specialized ratings might be needed to have better qualified people in the field where needed If this thinking is still being kicked around in the FAA then the people in the antique field would fit into the thinking already floating around

A specialized rating for antiquers that covered about what was in old manual 18 would not be diffi shycult to qualify for I would favor two ratings along the lines of the AampP If an antiquer did not want to get into the mechanics of engines he could go after an airframe rating only If he wanted to be able to annual his antique then of course he would have to hold both tickets To satisfy the FARs and the inshysurance companies I think the antique rating apshyproach has good merit

I have talked to several antiquers not rated and they all said that they would be happy to work toshyward a limited type rating that would allow them unrestricted labor on their own aircraft They all feel that they should have this opportunity and I concur I have not always been happy to sign off work as an IA due to the fact that there is no such thing as direct supervision even if you are in the same room all the time Also I have seen the FAA just as uneasy mostly because they as a whole are far from qualified to judge most antiques

Well hope this fills a small gap in the ove rall picture If I can be of further help in any way please let me know

Sincerely Bob Younkin 55 Appleby Road Razorback Airport Fayetteville Arkansas 72701 26

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Each of the large metal wings originally contained 20 gallon rubber gas bladders (say that three times) and both leaked after the crash Replacement cost was $700 apiece so the wing panels were torn off and Fred bent up a couple of metal tanks that are larger than the originals Between the tanks and the twisted metal from the crash Fred figures hes disshymantled at least 80 per cent of the wings and replaced 50 per cent of the total materials Included are a number of ribs shaped by hand on wooden formers which were also hand etched from the pieces bound for the junk heap That translates into a lot of aluminum the wing span is 376 with a chord in excess of 5 feet which produces 200 square feet of wing area In the end Fred will be able to reproduce any curved part of the Sedans wing and yes he plans to come up with quotes for others needing help (write Fred Chew 158 Meridian Street Fall River Massach usetts 02720)

With the Clark Y airfoil and a Continental 145 horsepower engine the Sedan leaps off the ground almost as fast as a two-place Cub When you turn it into a Seadan by adding a couple EDO 2000s it breaks surf suction with a simple hop skip and a slurping leap The only drawback is that with the 2000s you cant hop unless there are only two people on board With four people and full tanks the floats become submarines As a result the two resourceful metal benders who plan to build their own floats are giving serious thought to making something bigshyger

(David Gustafson photo)

Detail of the float attachment fitting

Bills Aeronca was built in 1948 and like most classics its alread~ changed hands a few times Dr Paul Nussbaum was the first to drop mud on the carpets in 49 John Ru sh moved it from Missouri to Ohio ten years later After another decade a pair of partners in Pennsylvania flew it for awhile and then left it with another partnership in New York Gerry Broskin and Harris Gordon revamped the panel and went IFR Soon after that it became the answer to a dream for Ron and Diane Rissone in Randolph Massachusetts But then there was this pine tree That brings the odyssey of N1365H to Bill Walsh hangar and private seaplane base

The next time Bills Sedan sees another runway itll obviously be sporting rebuilt wings and new float brackets in addition there ll be a new windshield all new woodwork new ceconite new headliner new used back seats (from a Tri-Pacer yet) a new panel (still IFR) and discussion has already started about a total engine overhaul

Theres one other new item in the works for the Sedan When its checked out on its wheels again there ll be a streamlined gas tank nestled in the gear bay You see Bill and Fred have promised themselves this extended tour of South America once they finish

Then the Sedan will bob in the harbor beside the Cessna and Bill can wrestle with the question which one do I fly today

(David Gustafson photo)

Fred Chew holds up the new tip hes built for the right wing

(David Gustafson photo)

Bill Walsh displys the seaplane door thats being installed on the left side of th e Sedan

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Restoration Tips a photo essay provided by

Fred Chew 158 Meridian St

Fall River Mass 02720

(Note Freds kept an exce llent photo record of the process of rebuilding the wings for Bill Walshs Aeronca Sedan It gives a good idea of how to do it and how much works involved)

No2 - Teardown reveals the damage No4 - Line up new to old

No 1 - Last step before rebuilding

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Aeronca Sedan spar repair 7976 (Right wing) No5 - Extrusion repair

No8 - Removing old section No 10 - Repair of extrusion spar No6 - Horizontal-line up

No7 - New piece made ready for hole flare No9 - Ready for spar extrusion repair No 17 - New piece in place for riveting

21

No 12 - Nose rib in place No 15 - Form to fit inside of old damaged spar tip rib NO 78 - Hand form mg

No 73 - C1eco nose rib to spa r No 16 - 032 alclad ready to be clamped in form No 79 - Flanging spar tip

No 74 - Ready to repair rear spar No 77 - Form ready for hand bending jig for lightening holes No 20 - More of same 22

No 27 - Trim off excess flange No 24 - Test fit to spar No 27 - 032 alclad 2024 TJ

No 22 - Trim square to form No 25 - Fly cutting lightening holes No 28 - Spar tip ready for installation

No 23 - Remove from form No 26 - Flanging No 29 - Clecos test line up 23

The Babv Cessna

It was born in Wichita Kansas at the Cessna fac-shytory in 1929 Because of the stock market slump the Airplane manufacturing business fell off drasshytically To try and keep the plant in operation Eldon Cessna decided to design and build a light airplane that could be sold at a low price As a result the EC-1 was developed It was powered with a 25 hp Cleone engine

At the time I was enrolled at the Braley School of Flying which was located directly across the road to the east of the Cessna field I spent much of my spare time at the field watching the men work on and fly the Baby Cessna It was a fascinating little airplane

Early last year I was looking for a suitable airshyplane to model for a C02 Powered model airplane contest I remembered the Baby Cessna and thought it would be just what I wanted

In doing research for drawings and photos I found that photos of both the EC-1 and the EC-2 were available but no drawings I had a photo of the EC-1 that I had taken with my Brownie box camera The EC-2 looked cleaner with its design refinements and the Aeronca E-107 engine

I met Eldon Cessna at-an OX5 get-to-gether at the Santa Paula Airport and we discussed the EC-2 at length He informed me that plans had never been published The EC-2 (cn 253 N405W) was the last Baby Cessna built

From the photos and from memory of being around the Baby Cessna these plans for a model were drawn Imagine what a delightful fun airplane it would be for a homebuilt replica project today These specifications appeared in the 1930 issue of Air Age magazine

Baby Cessna EC-2 (cn253 N405W) 30 hp Aeronca E-707A

bull 1

Baby Cessna EC-7 (cn 257 N403W) 25 hp Cleone 1930

By Cedric Calloway EAA 752

74624 Willow Street Hesperia CA 92345

~ --~ THE BABY CESSNA

Span 34 ft 11 in Wing area 163 sq ft Length overall 20 ft 4 in Height overall bull 5 ft 6 in Weights

Empty 470 Ibs Gross 925 Ibs

Gasoline capacity 8 gal Oil capacity 34 gal Power (Aeronca E-107A) 30 hp

PERFORMANCE

High speed 86 mph Cruising speed 70 mph Stalling speed 38 mph Climb first minute 740 ft Ceiling (service) 15000 ft Cruising range 200 miles

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REPLICA 1912 CURTISS PUSHER - Excellent craftsmanship fabric Cmiddot65 90 SMOH A real crowd pleaser - $4800 or best offer 8051498middot5101

TAYLORCRAFT BDmiddot12D - Razorback butyrate New Slick ignition Genave 100 Comm portable installed Spare prop and compass Sound 65 hp Cont Fresh annual $5000 Firm Crawford 7500 Balboa Van Nuys CA 91406

ENGINES

65 Continental - Approx 1000 hrs Logs Complete except for one mag 414387middot4895

Two Continental aircraft engines for sale Crated and ready for shipment Continental Amiddot75-8 OSMO - Total Time 1386 hrs Crankshaft - standard size - pistons 015 over Comshyplete less carbo Complete logs Price - $185000 Continenshytal A-65-8 OSMO - Total Time 218 hrs Pistons and crankshyshaft - standard size Complete less harness Complete logs Price - $225000 Jon J Thompson telephone 804 285-2929 9 AM - 5 PM Monday through Friday

PROPELLERS

Custom built props for Con tin ental Lycoming GPUs etc Fast delivery Chad Wille 5957 Sevi ll e St Lake Grove OR 97034

ARROW SPORT reduction gear and o il pan for Ford V-8 flatshyhead engine new Mark Dees 358 S Beverly Dr Beverly Hill s CA 90212 213552-0192

WANTED Any information concerning the Lincoln Sport Biplane produced in Lincoln Nebraska in the 1920s (parshytial plans shown in the 1930 Flying and Glider Manual ) Mr Harry R Owen Box 304 Isanti MN 55040

Calendar of Events JUNE 9-11 - SPRINGFIELD OHIO - 2nd Annual Spring EAA Midshy

Eastern Regional Fly-In (ME RFI ) Air Show awards on airport camping static displays etc Please check NOTAMS Contact Myrna Lewi s 241 Bassett Drive Springfie ld Ohio 44506 5131 323-2424

JUNE 16-18 - ANDERSON INDIANA - Second Annual Cessna 120shy140 Assn Fly- In and meeting Quad City Municipal Airport Moshyline Ill inois For information con tact Frank Han cock SecfTreas 3941 West Cross St Anderson IN 46011317643-1593

JUNE 17middot18 - FREDERICKSBURG VIRG INIA - Antique Aircraft FlyshyIn Shannon Airport Air Show attract ions Bob Hoover Bob Rus shysell and Duane Cole

JUNE 21middot26 - TULLAHOMA TENNESSEE - Annual Staggerwingl Travel Air International Convention Forums formation fl yi ng and fun Contad John Parish clo Lannom Mfg Co Tullahoma Tennessee 38388 615455-0691

JUNE 23middot25 - HAMILTON OHIO - Annual National Waco Reunion Fly-In Contact Ray Brandly 2650 W Alex-Bell Rd Dayton OH 45459 513435-9725

JULY 1-2 - GAINESVILLE GEORGIA - 11th Annual Cracker Fly-In at Lee-Gilmer Airport Awards will be presented in all categories O ur banquet will be at the Gainesville Ho liday Inn Saturday night July 2 Len Povey has accepted an invitation to be guest speaker Accommodations - Gainesvi lle Holiday Inn and other local motels Information Jim Ealy 3535 Childers Road Roswell Georgia 30075 404993-4568

JULY 1-9 - BLAKESBURG IOWA - Wright Brothers 75th Annivershysary Fly-In at th e Antique Airfield In cl udes World War II PT and Liaison Plane Fly-In July 1-3 Fairchild Club Fly-In and Unique Airshyplane Fly-In July 8-9

JULY 9 - EASTON PENNSYLVANIA - 2nd Annual Aeronca FlyshyIn Easton Airport 10 AM to 230 PM open to all types of Aeroncas Rain date July 16 Contact Jim Polles 2151759-3713 nights and weekends

JULY 14-16 - MINDEN NEBRASKA - Second Annual National Stinshyson Club Fly-In Pioneer Field near Harold Warp s Pioneer Vilshylage BBQ Friday night for early arriva ls Saturday night banq uet and awards Schedu led events Fly-In Chairman Bob Near 2702 Butterfoot Lane Hastings Nebraska 68901 402463-9309

JULY 15middot16 - LOCKPORT ILLINOI S - Chapter 15 and 86 of the Ch icago area EAA are now formulating plans for their 18th Annua l Fly-In and Air Show to be held at Lewis University In shyformation Janice P Fish PO 411 Lemont Illinoi s 60439

JULY 15-16 - LONG ISLAND NEW YORK - Antique Airp lane Club of Grea ter New York 16th Annual Fly- In Brookhaven Airport Brookhaven Long Island New York

JULY 16 - DUNKIRK NEW YORK - A nnual Fly-In Breakfast sponsored by EAA Chapter 46 and Dunkirk Rotary Free breakshyfast to homebui lders antique and warbi rd pilots Trophies in all EAA classes Spot landing contest on arrival Contact Charles Gallagher 19 Shelby Drive Buffalo New York 14225

JULY 21-23 - COFFEYVILLE KANSAS - Funk Fly- In Funk owners pilots and friends invited Fly-b ys factory and museum tours banquet Contact G Dale Beach 1621 Dreher Street Sacramento California 95814 o r Joe C Funk 2409 Edgevale Drive Coffeyshyville Kansas 67337

JULY 29 - AUGUST 5 - OSHKOSH WISCONSIN - 26th Ann ual EAA FlY-in Plan now - its the greatest show on eart h

AUGUST 6-12 - LAKELAND FLORIDA - International Cessna 170 Associat ion Conven tion Lakeland Florida

AUGUST 7-12 - FOND DU LAC WISCONSIN - 13th Annua l EAN lAC Internationa l Aeroba tic Championships For further informashytion conta ct Sam Maxwell 2116 Erie North Kansas City MO 64116

EAA ANTIQUECLASSIC DIVISION

MEMBERSHIP DRIVE

~~air of Antique Goggles by persuading 5 people to JOin

er A Leather Flying Helmet when you get 10 people to sign up

- then start over and win again

~A free five year membershyship in the AntiqueClassic Division if you sponsor the most new members in 1978

To Qualify Write your name and membershyship number on the back of the membershyship b lanks we ve been providing in THE VIN TA GE AIRPLAN E Headq uarters w ill keep sco re

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1 I~rlII~llS Dear Sir

I am trying to get information on an aircraft that was built during the 20s called the Golden Eagle Chief It was a parasol wing powered by a radial engine type unshyknown Only about seven were built If any of your Antique classic division members know anything about this aircraft I would like to get in touch with them

I would like to take this opportunity to express what an outstanding organization I think the EAA is Ive only been a member for three years and only regret the years before I joined SPORT AVIATION is one of the best publications that I have ever read I have been to Oshkosh twice and to quite a few local fly-ins including Sun N Fun and have never seen anything more organized or better run I am looking forward to Oshkosh 78 and to continued membership in a fine organization

Sincerely james E Spradley (EAA 108947) PO Box 146 Rutledge Alabama 36071

Dear Mr Nielander Your editorial in the February issue of The Vinshy

tage Airplane is the best expression of the question of who is really qualified to maintain antique and classic aircraft (this applies equally well to some curshyrent aircraft such as the Bellanca Viking etc)

I submit the following recommendation as a way to offset some of the difficulties expressed in your excellent editorial to wit

The FAA should grant an A and E (or P) mechanics license to an individual who meets the following qualifications

(1) Passes three written examinations now required for the rating

(2) Passes the practical examination currently reshyquired

(3) Can show that he has actually done the major portion of the work in the restoration of an antique or classic airplane

You will note that the difference between these requirements and the current FAR part 65 requireshyments is the modification of sec 6577 which relates to on-the-job or schooling experience

From my own experience in restoring three airshyplanes (Luscombe Stinson Reliant Beechcraft B17L) I know that the amount of honest-to-God airplane and engine work in the usual restoration project is in exshycess of the stuff that the students in the approved

mechanic schools get Moreover during the 30 months practical experience referred to in FAR 6577 a lot of that time is spent just removing cowlings cleanshying sparkplugs changing tires sweeping floors pumpshying gas and plowing snow I guess what Im trying to do is build a case which shows that the antique classic restorer or homebuilder knows just as much about airplanes in general as does the individual who qualifies under the current provisions of FAR sec 6577

Very truly yours Thomas R Rench 1601 Circlewood Drive Racine Wisconsin 53402

Dear AI Perhaps I can shed a little light on the centershy

fold of the February issue of The Vintage Airplane The two planes pictured in the center of the page

are Top picture Wright Martin (Loening) M-8 Botshytom picture is an Ansaldo SVA-5 or SVA-9

The Loen ing was manufactured by the Wright Marshytin Corp and was built in 1921-1922 The factory deSignation was M-8

The Army Air Service designation was PW-2 PWshy2A and PW-2B Two of the PW-2 model were built in 1921 Gross weight was 2788 Ibs span 39 8 length 24 2 Ten of the PW-2A model were ordered by the Air Service but the order was cancelled after four were built in 1922 Gross weight was 2799 Ibs span 39 9 length 26 1

The PW2B was evaluated in 1922 but was never built Gross weight was to be 2976 Ibs span 34 1 length 23 4

PW-2 and PW-2A were powered by the Wright Martin H of 320 hp which was a Hisso built under license The PW2-B was to be powered by a 350 hp Packard engine

The Ansaldo can be either an SVA-5 or SVA-9 as the front view doesnt show whether it is a two place or single place The SVA-5 was single place while the SVA-9 was two place Both were powered by the Breda SPA-6A engine which was 6 cylinders and rated at 200 hp at 1600 rpm

I understand that there is an SVA-5 in a museum in Connecticut but I am not sure of this

Hope this information will be of some use to you Best regards H M Harkcom Harkcom Aircraft Service Rt 1 Inola Oklahoma

Dear AI In the February issue j R Nielander wrote an in shy

teresting editorial concerning the possibilities in the area of personal certification of antique aircraft by the owner restorer

Without blowing my own horn too loud I have worked with antiquers and others for the last 28 years doing what j R talks about signing off work for non-rated owners A lot of these people are really sharp and most do above average work and should be allowed to cut it on their own somehow

I think the key to this thing is for the FAA to set up a program whereby the interested antiquer could satisfy them that he is qualified to restore and mainshytain his antique This may not be as far away from FAA thinking as one might imagine as there has been talk around for some time at lower levels that the AampE ratings cover too much area for the average mechanic In other words the thinking in some areas of the FAA is that specialized ratings might be needed to have better qualified people in the field where needed If this thinking is still being kicked around in the FAA then the people in the antique field would fit into the thinking already floating around

A specialized rating for antiquers that covered about what was in old manual 18 would not be diffi shycult to qualify for I would favor two ratings along the lines of the AampP If an antiquer did not want to get into the mechanics of engines he could go after an airframe rating only If he wanted to be able to annual his antique then of course he would have to hold both tickets To satisfy the FARs and the inshysurance companies I think the antique rating apshyproach has good merit

I have talked to several antiquers not rated and they all said that they would be happy to work toshyward a limited type rating that would allow them unrestricted labor on their own aircraft They all feel that they should have this opportunity and I concur I have not always been happy to sign off work as an IA due to the fact that there is no such thing as direct supervision even if you are in the same room all the time Also I have seen the FAA just as uneasy mostly because they as a whole are far from qualified to judge most antiques

Well hope this fills a small gap in the ove rall picture If I can be of further help in any way please let me know

Sincerely Bob Younkin 55 Appleby Road Razorback Airport Fayetteville Arkansas 72701 26

Are you restoring a Classic

)(U1t dJ4 ~~

I~

Jj FINISH IT RIGHT WITH AN

4~ INTERIOR All Items Designed for Easy

DOmiddotITmiddot YOURSELF INSTALLATION

~~ CUSHION UPHOLSTERY SETS UPHOLSTERED FOAM CUSHION SETS

WALL PANEL SETS bull HEADLINERSmiddot CARPETS

Airtex interior upholstery items are all made up into complete assemblies ready for you to install Your choice of three fabric styles and twenty colors Luxurious cut pile carpets in seven colors wrinkleshyfree Duraliner headliners baggage compartshyments seat slings and fire wall covers are also available for Classic planes

RE-COVER ENVELOPES Available for all Classics and some Antique models in Ceconjte 101 102 and cotton Airtex makes the worlds finest envelopes

rodolplpound AIRCRAFT FINISHES Nitrate amp butyrate dope enamelurethane thinners reducer retarder and primers Complete stock of re-covering supplies

Send $100 for Catalog and Our Fabrics Selection Guide

(iIziea p~ Jnc DEPT R LOWER MORRISVILLE ROAD

FALLSINGTON PA 19054

(215) 295-4115

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Restoration Tips a photo essay provided by

Fred Chew 158 Meridian St

Fall River Mass 02720

(Note Freds kept an exce llent photo record of the process of rebuilding the wings for Bill Walshs Aeronca Sedan It gives a good idea of how to do it and how much works involved)

No2 - Teardown reveals the damage No4 - Line up new to old

No 1 - Last step before rebuilding

20

Aeronca Sedan spar repair 7976 (Right wing) No5 - Extrusion repair

No8 - Removing old section No 10 - Repair of extrusion spar No6 - Horizontal-line up

No7 - New piece made ready for hole flare No9 - Ready for spar extrusion repair No 17 - New piece in place for riveting

21

No 12 - Nose rib in place No 15 - Form to fit inside of old damaged spar tip rib NO 78 - Hand form mg

No 73 - C1eco nose rib to spa r No 16 - 032 alclad ready to be clamped in form No 79 - Flanging spar tip

No 74 - Ready to repair rear spar No 77 - Form ready for hand bending jig for lightening holes No 20 - More of same 22

No 27 - Trim off excess flange No 24 - Test fit to spar No 27 - 032 alclad 2024 TJ

No 22 - Trim square to form No 25 - Fly cutting lightening holes No 28 - Spar tip ready for installation

No 23 - Remove from form No 26 - Flanging No 29 - Clecos test line up 23

The Babv Cessna

It was born in Wichita Kansas at the Cessna fac-shytory in 1929 Because of the stock market slump the Airplane manufacturing business fell off drasshytically To try and keep the plant in operation Eldon Cessna decided to design and build a light airplane that could be sold at a low price As a result the EC-1 was developed It was powered with a 25 hp Cleone engine

At the time I was enrolled at the Braley School of Flying which was located directly across the road to the east of the Cessna field I spent much of my spare time at the field watching the men work on and fly the Baby Cessna It was a fascinating little airplane

Early last year I was looking for a suitable airshyplane to model for a C02 Powered model airplane contest I remembered the Baby Cessna and thought it would be just what I wanted

In doing research for drawings and photos I found that photos of both the EC-1 and the EC-2 were available but no drawings I had a photo of the EC-1 that I had taken with my Brownie box camera The EC-2 looked cleaner with its design refinements and the Aeronca E-107 engine

I met Eldon Cessna at-an OX5 get-to-gether at the Santa Paula Airport and we discussed the EC-2 at length He informed me that plans had never been published The EC-2 (cn 253 N405W) was the last Baby Cessna built

From the photos and from memory of being around the Baby Cessna these plans for a model were drawn Imagine what a delightful fun airplane it would be for a homebuilt replica project today These specifications appeared in the 1930 issue of Air Age magazine

Baby Cessna EC-2 (cn253 N405W) 30 hp Aeronca E-707A

bull 1

Baby Cessna EC-7 (cn 257 N403W) 25 hp Cleone 1930

By Cedric Calloway EAA 752

74624 Willow Street Hesperia CA 92345

~ --~ THE BABY CESSNA

Span 34 ft 11 in Wing area 163 sq ft Length overall 20 ft 4 in Height overall bull 5 ft 6 in Weights

Empty 470 Ibs Gross 925 Ibs

Gasoline capacity 8 gal Oil capacity 34 gal Power (Aeronca E-107A) 30 hp

PERFORMANCE

High speed 86 mph Cruising speed 70 mph Stalling speed 38 mph Climb first minute 740 ft Ceiling (service) 15000 ft Cruising range 200 miles

24

CLASSIFIED ADS

ADVERTISING ClOSING DATE 10th OF THE SECOND MONTH PRIOR TO PUBLICATION DATE (THAT IS MARCH 10th IS ClOSING DATE FOR MAY ISSUE) CLASSIFIED ADmiddot VERTISING RATE Regular type per word 35c Bold face type per word 40c ALL CAPS per word 45c (Min imum charge $5 00) (Rate covers one insertion one issue) PAYmiddot MENT WITH ORDER

REPLICA 1912 CURTISS PUSHER - Excellent craftsmanship fabric Cmiddot65 90 SMOH A real crowd pleaser - $4800 or best offer 8051498middot5101

TAYLORCRAFT BDmiddot12D - Razorback butyrate New Slick ignition Genave 100 Comm portable installed Spare prop and compass Sound 65 hp Cont Fresh annual $5000 Firm Crawford 7500 Balboa Van Nuys CA 91406

ENGINES

65 Continental - Approx 1000 hrs Logs Complete except for one mag 414387middot4895

Two Continental aircraft engines for sale Crated and ready for shipment Continental Amiddot75-8 OSMO - Total Time 1386 hrs Crankshaft - standard size - pistons 015 over Comshyplete less carbo Complete logs Price - $185000 Continenshytal A-65-8 OSMO - Total Time 218 hrs Pistons and crankshyshaft - standard size Complete less harness Complete logs Price - $225000 Jon J Thompson telephone 804 285-2929 9 AM - 5 PM Monday through Friday

PROPELLERS

Custom built props for Con tin ental Lycoming GPUs etc Fast delivery Chad Wille 5957 Sevi ll e St Lake Grove OR 97034

ARROW SPORT reduction gear and o il pan for Ford V-8 flatshyhead engine new Mark Dees 358 S Beverly Dr Beverly Hill s CA 90212 213552-0192

WANTED Any information concerning the Lincoln Sport Biplane produced in Lincoln Nebraska in the 1920s (parshytial plans shown in the 1930 Flying and Glider Manual ) Mr Harry R Owen Box 304 Isanti MN 55040

Calendar of Events JUNE 9-11 - SPRINGFIELD OHIO - 2nd Annual Spring EAA Midshy

Eastern Regional Fly-In (ME RFI ) Air Show awards on airport camping static displays etc Please check NOTAMS Contact Myrna Lewi s 241 Bassett Drive Springfie ld Ohio 44506 5131 323-2424

JUNE 16-18 - ANDERSON INDIANA - Second Annual Cessna 120shy140 Assn Fly- In and meeting Quad City Municipal Airport Moshyline Ill inois For information con tact Frank Han cock SecfTreas 3941 West Cross St Anderson IN 46011317643-1593

JUNE 17middot18 - FREDERICKSBURG VIRG INIA - Antique Aircraft FlyshyIn Shannon Airport Air Show attract ions Bob Hoover Bob Rus shysell and Duane Cole

JUNE 21middot26 - TULLAHOMA TENNESSEE - Annual Staggerwingl Travel Air International Convention Forums formation fl yi ng and fun Contad John Parish clo Lannom Mfg Co Tullahoma Tennessee 38388 615455-0691

JUNE 23middot25 - HAMILTON OHIO - Annual National Waco Reunion Fly-In Contact Ray Brandly 2650 W Alex-Bell Rd Dayton OH 45459 513435-9725

JULY 1-2 - GAINESVILLE GEORGIA - 11th Annual Cracker Fly-In at Lee-Gilmer Airport Awards will be presented in all categories O ur banquet will be at the Gainesville Ho liday Inn Saturday night July 2 Len Povey has accepted an invitation to be guest speaker Accommodations - Gainesvi lle Holiday Inn and other local motels Information Jim Ealy 3535 Childers Road Roswell Georgia 30075 404993-4568

JULY 1-9 - BLAKESBURG IOWA - Wright Brothers 75th Annivershysary Fly-In at th e Antique Airfield In cl udes World War II PT and Liaison Plane Fly-In July 1-3 Fairchild Club Fly-In and Unique Airshyplane Fly-In July 8-9

JULY 9 - EASTON PENNSYLVANIA - 2nd Annual Aeronca FlyshyIn Easton Airport 10 AM to 230 PM open to all types of Aeroncas Rain date July 16 Contact Jim Polles 2151759-3713 nights and weekends

JULY 14-16 - MINDEN NEBRASKA - Second Annual National Stinshyson Club Fly-In Pioneer Field near Harold Warp s Pioneer Vilshylage BBQ Friday night for early arriva ls Saturday night banq uet and awards Schedu led events Fly-In Chairman Bob Near 2702 Butterfoot Lane Hastings Nebraska 68901 402463-9309

JULY 15middot16 - LOCKPORT ILLINOI S - Chapter 15 and 86 of the Ch icago area EAA are now formulating plans for their 18th Annua l Fly-In and Air Show to be held at Lewis University In shyformation Janice P Fish PO 411 Lemont Illinoi s 60439

JULY 15-16 - LONG ISLAND NEW YORK - Antique Airp lane Club of Grea ter New York 16th Annual Fly- In Brookhaven Airport Brookhaven Long Island New York

JULY 16 - DUNKIRK NEW YORK - A nnual Fly-In Breakfast sponsored by EAA Chapter 46 and Dunkirk Rotary Free breakshyfast to homebui lders antique and warbi rd pilots Trophies in all EAA classes Spot landing contest on arrival Contact Charles Gallagher 19 Shelby Drive Buffalo New York 14225

JULY 21-23 - COFFEYVILLE KANSAS - Funk Fly- In Funk owners pilots and friends invited Fly-b ys factory and museum tours banquet Contact G Dale Beach 1621 Dreher Street Sacramento California 95814 o r Joe C Funk 2409 Edgevale Drive Coffeyshyville Kansas 67337

JULY 29 - AUGUST 5 - OSHKOSH WISCONSIN - 26th Ann ual EAA FlY-in Plan now - its the greatest show on eart h

AUGUST 6-12 - LAKELAND FLORIDA - International Cessna 170 Associat ion Conven tion Lakeland Florida

AUGUST 7-12 - FOND DU LAC WISCONSIN - 13th Annua l EAN lAC Internationa l Aeroba tic Championships For further informashytion conta ct Sam Maxwell 2116 Erie North Kansas City MO 64116

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~~air of Antique Goggles by persuading 5 people to JOin

er A Leather Flying Helmet when you get 10 people to sign up

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~A free five year membershyship in the AntiqueClassic Division if you sponsor the most new members in 1978

To Qualify Write your name and membershyship number on the back of the membershyship b lanks we ve been providing in THE VIN TA GE AIRPLAN E Headq uarters w ill keep sco re

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1 I~rlII~llS Dear Sir

I am trying to get information on an aircraft that was built during the 20s called the Golden Eagle Chief It was a parasol wing powered by a radial engine type unshyknown Only about seven were built If any of your Antique classic division members know anything about this aircraft I would like to get in touch with them

I would like to take this opportunity to express what an outstanding organization I think the EAA is Ive only been a member for three years and only regret the years before I joined SPORT AVIATION is one of the best publications that I have ever read I have been to Oshkosh twice and to quite a few local fly-ins including Sun N Fun and have never seen anything more organized or better run I am looking forward to Oshkosh 78 and to continued membership in a fine organization

Sincerely james E Spradley (EAA 108947) PO Box 146 Rutledge Alabama 36071

Dear Mr Nielander Your editorial in the February issue of The Vinshy

tage Airplane is the best expression of the question of who is really qualified to maintain antique and classic aircraft (this applies equally well to some curshyrent aircraft such as the Bellanca Viking etc)

I submit the following recommendation as a way to offset some of the difficulties expressed in your excellent editorial to wit

The FAA should grant an A and E (or P) mechanics license to an individual who meets the following qualifications

(1) Passes three written examinations now required for the rating

(2) Passes the practical examination currently reshyquired

(3) Can show that he has actually done the major portion of the work in the restoration of an antique or classic airplane

You will note that the difference between these requirements and the current FAR part 65 requireshyments is the modification of sec 6577 which relates to on-the-job or schooling experience

From my own experience in restoring three airshyplanes (Luscombe Stinson Reliant Beechcraft B17L) I know that the amount of honest-to-God airplane and engine work in the usual restoration project is in exshycess of the stuff that the students in the approved

mechanic schools get Moreover during the 30 months practical experience referred to in FAR 6577 a lot of that time is spent just removing cowlings cleanshying sparkplugs changing tires sweeping floors pumpshying gas and plowing snow I guess what Im trying to do is build a case which shows that the antique classic restorer or homebuilder knows just as much about airplanes in general as does the individual who qualifies under the current provisions of FAR sec 6577

Very truly yours Thomas R Rench 1601 Circlewood Drive Racine Wisconsin 53402

Dear AI Perhaps I can shed a little light on the centershy

fold of the February issue of The Vintage Airplane The two planes pictured in the center of the page

are Top picture Wright Martin (Loening) M-8 Botshytom picture is an Ansaldo SVA-5 or SVA-9

The Loen ing was manufactured by the Wright Marshytin Corp and was built in 1921-1922 The factory deSignation was M-8

The Army Air Service designation was PW-2 PWshy2A and PW-2B Two of the PW-2 model were built in 1921 Gross weight was 2788 Ibs span 39 8 length 24 2 Ten of the PW-2A model were ordered by the Air Service but the order was cancelled after four were built in 1922 Gross weight was 2799 Ibs span 39 9 length 26 1

The PW2B was evaluated in 1922 but was never built Gross weight was to be 2976 Ibs span 34 1 length 23 4

PW-2 and PW-2A were powered by the Wright Martin H of 320 hp which was a Hisso built under license The PW2-B was to be powered by a 350 hp Packard engine

The Ansaldo can be either an SVA-5 or SVA-9 as the front view doesnt show whether it is a two place or single place The SVA-5 was single place while the SVA-9 was two place Both were powered by the Breda SPA-6A engine which was 6 cylinders and rated at 200 hp at 1600 rpm

I understand that there is an SVA-5 in a museum in Connecticut but I am not sure of this

Hope this information will be of some use to you Best regards H M Harkcom Harkcom Aircraft Service Rt 1 Inola Oklahoma

Dear AI In the February issue j R Nielander wrote an in shy

teresting editorial concerning the possibilities in the area of personal certification of antique aircraft by the owner restorer

Without blowing my own horn too loud I have worked with antiquers and others for the last 28 years doing what j R talks about signing off work for non-rated owners A lot of these people are really sharp and most do above average work and should be allowed to cut it on their own somehow

I think the key to this thing is for the FAA to set up a program whereby the interested antiquer could satisfy them that he is qualified to restore and mainshytain his antique This may not be as far away from FAA thinking as one might imagine as there has been talk around for some time at lower levels that the AampE ratings cover too much area for the average mechanic In other words the thinking in some areas of the FAA is that specialized ratings might be needed to have better qualified people in the field where needed If this thinking is still being kicked around in the FAA then the people in the antique field would fit into the thinking already floating around

A specialized rating for antiquers that covered about what was in old manual 18 would not be diffi shycult to qualify for I would favor two ratings along the lines of the AampP If an antiquer did not want to get into the mechanics of engines he could go after an airframe rating only If he wanted to be able to annual his antique then of course he would have to hold both tickets To satisfy the FARs and the inshysurance companies I think the antique rating apshyproach has good merit

I have talked to several antiquers not rated and they all said that they would be happy to work toshyward a limited type rating that would allow them unrestricted labor on their own aircraft They all feel that they should have this opportunity and I concur I have not always been happy to sign off work as an IA due to the fact that there is no such thing as direct supervision even if you are in the same room all the time Also I have seen the FAA just as uneasy mostly because they as a whole are far from qualified to judge most antiques

Well hope this fills a small gap in the ove rall picture If I can be of further help in any way please let me know

Sincerely Bob Younkin 55 Appleby Road Razorback Airport Fayetteville Arkansas 72701 26

Are you restoring a Classic

)(U1t dJ4 ~~

I~

Jj FINISH IT RIGHT WITH AN

4~ INTERIOR All Items Designed for Easy

DOmiddotITmiddot YOURSELF INSTALLATION

~~ CUSHION UPHOLSTERY SETS UPHOLSTERED FOAM CUSHION SETS

WALL PANEL SETS bull HEADLINERSmiddot CARPETS

Airtex interior upholstery items are all made up into complete assemblies ready for you to install Your choice of three fabric styles and twenty colors Luxurious cut pile carpets in seven colors wrinkleshyfree Duraliner headliners baggage compartshyments seat slings and fire wall covers are also available for Classic planes

RE-COVER ENVELOPES Available for all Classics and some Antique models in Ceconjte 101 102 and cotton Airtex makes the worlds finest envelopes

rodolplpound AIRCRAFT FINISHES Nitrate amp butyrate dope enamelurethane thinners reducer retarder and primers Complete stock of re-covering supplies

Send $100 for Catalog and Our Fabrics Selection Guide

(iIziea p~ Jnc DEPT R LOWER MORRISVILLE ROAD

FALLSINGTON PA 19054

(215) 295-4115

27

Page 20: Vintage Airplane - Jun 1978

No8 - Removing old section No 10 - Repair of extrusion spar No6 - Horizontal-line up

No7 - New piece made ready for hole flare No9 - Ready for spar extrusion repair No 17 - New piece in place for riveting

21

No 12 - Nose rib in place No 15 - Form to fit inside of old damaged spar tip rib NO 78 - Hand form mg

No 73 - C1eco nose rib to spa r No 16 - 032 alclad ready to be clamped in form No 79 - Flanging spar tip

No 74 - Ready to repair rear spar No 77 - Form ready for hand bending jig for lightening holes No 20 - More of same 22

No 27 - Trim off excess flange No 24 - Test fit to spar No 27 - 032 alclad 2024 TJ

No 22 - Trim square to form No 25 - Fly cutting lightening holes No 28 - Spar tip ready for installation

No 23 - Remove from form No 26 - Flanging No 29 - Clecos test line up 23

The Babv Cessna

It was born in Wichita Kansas at the Cessna fac-shytory in 1929 Because of the stock market slump the Airplane manufacturing business fell off drasshytically To try and keep the plant in operation Eldon Cessna decided to design and build a light airplane that could be sold at a low price As a result the EC-1 was developed It was powered with a 25 hp Cleone engine

At the time I was enrolled at the Braley School of Flying which was located directly across the road to the east of the Cessna field I spent much of my spare time at the field watching the men work on and fly the Baby Cessna It was a fascinating little airplane

Early last year I was looking for a suitable airshyplane to model for a C02 Powered model airplane contest I remembered the Baby Cessna and thought it would be just what I wanted

In doing research for drawings and photos I found that photos of both the EC-1 and the EC-2 were available but no drawings I had a photo of the EC-1 that I had taken with my Brownie box camera The EC-2 looked cleaner with its design refinements and the Aeronca E-107 engine

I met Eldon Cessna at-an OX5 get-to-gether at the Santa Paula Airport and we discussed the EC-2 at length He informed me that plans had never been published The EC-2 (cn 253 N405W) was the last Baby Cessna built

From the photos and from memory of being around the Baby Cessna these plans for a model were drawn Imagine what a delightful fun airplane it would be for a homebuilt replica project today These specifications appeared in the 1930 issue of Air Age magazine

Baby Cessna EC-2 (cn253 N405W) 30 hp Aeronca E-707A

bull 1

Baby Cessna EC-7 (cn 257 N403W) 25 hp Cleone 1930

By Cedric Calloway EAA 752

74624 Willow Street Hesperia CA 92345

~ --~ THE BABY CESSNA

Span 34 ft 11 in Wing area 163 sq ft Length overall 20 ft 4 in Height overall bull 5 ft 6 in Weights

Empty 470 Ibs Gross 925 Ibs

Gasoline capacity 8 gal Oil capacity 34 gal Power (Aeronca E-107A) 30 hp

PERFORMANCE

High speed 86 mph Cruising speed 70 mph Stalling speed 38 mph Climb first minute 740 ft Ceiling (service) 15000 ft Cruising range 200 miles

24

CLASSIFIED ADS

ADVERTISING ClOSING DATE 10th OF THE SECOND MONTH PRIOR TO PUBLICATION DATE (THAT IS MARCH 10th IS ClOSING DATE FOR MAY ISSUE) CLASSIFIED ADmiddot VERTISING RATE Regular type per word 35c Bold face type per word 40c ALL CAPS per word 45c (Min imum charge $5 00) (Rate covers one insertion one issue) PAYmiddot MENT WITH ORDER

REPLICA 1912 CURTISS PUSHER - Excellent craftsmanship fabric Cmiddot65 90 SMOH A real crowd pleaser - $4800 or best offer 8051498middot5101

TAYLORCRAFT BDmiddot12D - Razorback butyrate New Slick ignition Genave 100 Comm portable installed Spare prop and compass Sound 65 hp Cont Fresh annual $5000 Firm Crawford 7500 Balboa Van Nuys CA 91406

ENGINES

65 Continental - Approx 1000 hrs Logs Complete except for one mag 414387middot4895

Two Continental aircraft engines for sale Crated and ready for shipment Continental Amiddot75-8 OSMO - Total Time 1386 hrs Crankshaft - standard size - pistons 015 over Comshyplete less carbo Complete logs Price - $185000 Continenshytal A-65-8 OSMO - Total Time 218 hrs Pistons and crankshyshaft - standard size Complete less harness Complete logs Price - $225000 Jon J Thompson telephone 804 285-2929 9 AM - 5 PM Monday through Friday

PROPELLERS

Custom built props for Con tin ental Lycoming GPUs etc Fast delivery Chad Wille 5957 Sevi ll e St Lake Grove OR 97034

ARROW SPORT reduction gear and o il pan for Ford V-8 flatshyhead engine new Mark Dees 358 S Beverly Dr Beverly Hill s CA 90212 213552-0192

WANTED Any information concerning the Lincoln Sport Biplane produced in Lincoln Nebraska in the 1920s (parshytial plans shown in the 1930 Flying and Glider Manual ) Mr Harry R Owen Box 304 Isanti MN 55040

Calendar of Events JUNE 9-11 - SPRINGFIELD OHIO - 2nd Annual Spring EAA Midshy

Eastern Regional Fly-In (ME RFI ) Air Show awards on airport camping static displays etc Please check NOTAMS Contact Myrna Lewi s 241 Bassett Drive Springfie ld Ohio 44506 5131 323-2424

JUNE 16-18 - ANDERSON INDIANA - Second Annual Cessna 120shy140 Assn Fly- In and meeting Quad City Municipal Airport Moshyline Ill inois For information con tact Frank Han cock SecfTreas 3941 West Cross St Anderson IN 46011317643-1593

JUNE 17middot18 - FREDERICKSBURG VIRG INIA - Antique Aircraft FlyshyIn Shannon Airport Air Show attract ions Bob Hoover Bob Rus shysell and Duane Cole

JUNE 21middot26 - TULLAHOMA TENNESSEE - Annual Staggerwingl Travel Air International Convention Forums formation fl yi ng and fun Contad John Parish clo Lannom Mfg Co Tullahoma Tennessee 38388 615455-0691

JUNE 23middot25 - HAMILTON OHIO - Annual National Waco Reunion Fly-In Contact Ray Brandly 2650 W Alex-Bell Rd Dayton OH 45459 513435-9725

JULY 1-2 - GAINESVILLE GEORGIA - 11th Annual Cracker Fly-In at Lee-Gilmer Airport Awards will be presented in all categories O ur banquet will be at the Gainesville Ho liday Inn Saturday night July 2 Len Povey has accepted an invitation to be guest speaker Accommodations - Gainesvi lle Holiday Inn and other local motels Information Jim Ealy 3535 Childers Road Roswell Georgia 30075 404993-4568

JULY 1-9 - BLAKESBURG IOWA - Wright Brothers 75th Annivershysary Fly-In at th e Antique Airfield In cl udes World War II PT and Liaison Plane Fly-In July 1-3 Fairchild Club Fly-In and Unique Airshyplane Fly-In July 8-9

JULY 9 - EASTON PENNSYLVANIA - 2nd Annual Aeronca FlyshyIn Easton Airport 10 AM to 230 PM open to all types of Aeroncas Rain date July 16 Contact Jim Polles 2151759-3713 nights and weekends

JULY 14-16 - MINDEN NEBRASKA - Second Annual National Stinshyson Club Fly-In Pioneer Field near Harold Warp s Pioneer Vilshylage BBQ Friday night for early arriva ls Saturday night banq uet and awards Schedu led events Fly-In Chairman Bob Near 2702 Butterfoot Lane Hastings Nebraska 68901 402463-9309

JULY 15middot16 - LOCKPORT ILLINOI S - Chapter 15 and 86 of the Ch icago area EAA are now formulating plans for their 18th Annua l Fly-In and Air Show to be held at Lewis University In shyformation Janice P Fish PO 411 Lemont Illinoi s 60439

JULY 15-16 - LONG ISLAND NEW YORK - Antique Airp lane Club of Grea ter New York 16th Annual Fly- In Brookhaven Airport Brookhaven Long Island New York

JULY 16 - DUNKIRK NEW YORK - A nnual Fly-In Breakfast sponsored by EAA Chapter 46 and Dunkirk Rotary Free breakshyfast to homebui lders antique and warbi rd pilots Trophies in all EAA classes Spot landing contest on arrival Contact Charles Gallagher 19 Shelby Drive Buffalo New York 14225

JULY 21-23 - COFFEYVILLE KANSAS - Funk Fly- In Funk owners pilots and friends invited Fly-b ys factory and museum tours banquet Contact G Dale Beach 1621 Dreher Street Sacramento California 95814 o r Joe C Funk 2409 Edgevale Drive Coffeyshyville Kansas 67337

JULY 29 - AUGUST 5 - OSHKOSH WISCONSIN - 26th Ann ual EAA FlY-in Plan now - its the greatest show on eart h

AUGUST 6-12 - LAKELAND FLORIDA - International Cessna 170 Associat ion Conven tion Lakeland Florida

AUGUST 7-12 - FOND DU LAC WISCONSIN - 13th Annua l EAN lAC Internationa l Aeroba tic Championships For further informashytion conta ct Sam Maxwell 2116 Erie North Kansas City MO 64116

EAA ANTIQUECLASSIC DIVISION

MEMBERSHIP DRIVE

~~air of Antique Goggles by persuading 5 people to JOin

er A Leather Flying Helmet when you get 10 people to sign up

- then start over and win again

~A free five year membershyship in the AntiqueClassic Division if you sponsor the most new members in 1978

To Qualify Write your name and membershyship number on the back of the membershyship b lanks we ve been providing in THE VIN TA GE AIRPLAN E Headq uarters w ill keep sco re

25

1 I~rlII~llS Dear Sir

I am trying to get information on an aircraft that was built during the 20s called the Golden Eagle Chief It was a parasol wing powered by a radial engine type unshyknown Only about seven were built If any of your Antique classic division members know anything about this aircraft I would like to get in touch with them

I would like to take this opportunity to express what an outstanding organization I think the EAA is Ive only been a member for three years and only regret the years before I joined SPORT AVIATION is one of the best publications that I have ever read I have been to Oshkosh twice and to quite a few local fly-ins including Sun N Fun and have never seen anything more organized or better run I am looking forward to Oshkosh 78 and to continued membership in a fine organization

Sincerely james E Spradley (EAA 108947) PO Box 146 Rutledge Alabama 36071

Dear Mr Nielander Your editorial in the February issue of The Vinshy

tage Airplane is the best expression of the question of who is really qualified to maintain antique and classic aircraft (this applies equally well to some curshyrent aircraft such as the Bellanca Viking etc)

I submit the following recommendation as a way to offset some of the difficulties expressed in your excellent editorial to wit

The FAA should grant an A and E (or P) mechanics license to an individual who meets the following qualifications

(1) Passes three written examinations now required for the rating

(2) Passes the practical examination currently reshyquired

(3) Can show that he has actually done the major portion of the work in the restoration of an antique or classic airplane

You will note that the difference between these requirements and the current FAR part 65 requireshyments is the modification of sec 6577 which relates to on-the-job or schooling experience

From my own experience in restoring three airshyplanes (Luscombe Stinson Reliant Beechcraft B17L) I know that the amount of honest-to-God airplane and engine work in the usual restoration project is in exshycess of the stuff that the students in the approved

mechanic schools get Moreover during the 30 months practical experience referred to in FAR 6577 a lot of that time is spent just removing cowlings cleanshying sparkplugs changing tires sweeping floors pumpshying gas and plowing snow I guess what Im trying to do is build a case which shows that the antique classic restorer or homebuilder knows just as much about airplanes in general as does the individual who qualifies under the current provisions of FAR sec 6577

Very truly yours Thomas R Rench 1601 Circlewood Drive Racine Wisconsin 53402

Dear AI Perhaps I can shed a little light on the centershy

fold of the February issue of The Vintage Airplane The two planes pictured in the center of the page

are Top picture Wright Martin (Loening) M-8 Botshytom picture is an Ansaldo SVA-5 or SVA-9

The Loen ing was manufactured by the Wright Marshytin Corp and was built in 1921-1922 The factory deSignation was M-8

The Army Air Service designation was PW-2 PWshy2A and PW-2B Two of the PW-2 model were built in 1921 Gross weight was 2788 Ibs span 39 8 length 24 2 Ten of the PW-2A model were ordered by the Air Service but the order was cancelled after four were built in 1922 Gross weight was 2799 Ibs span 39 9 length 26 1

The PW2B was evaluated in 1922 but was never built Gross weight was to be 2976 Ibs span 34 1 length 23 4

PW-2 and PW-2A were powered by the Wright Martin H of 320 hp which was a Hisso built under license The PW2-B was to be powered by a 350 hp Packard engine

The Ansaldo can be either an SVA-5 or SVA-9 as the front view doesnt show whether it is a two place or single place The SVA-5 was single place while the SVA-9 was two place Both were powered by the Breda SPA-6A engine which was 6 cylinders and rated at 200 hp at 1600 rpm

I understand that there is an SVA-5 in a museum in Connecticut but I am not sure of this

Hope this information will be of some use to you Best regards H M Harkcom Harkcom Aircraft Service Rt 1 Inola Oklahoma

Dear AI In the February issue j R Nielander wrote an in shy

teresting editorial concerning the possibilities in the area of personal certification of antique aircraft by the owner restorer

Without blowing my own horn too loud I have worked with antiquers and others for the last 28 years doing what j R talks about signing off work for non-rated owners A lot of these people are really sharp and most do above average work and should be allowed to cut it on their own somehow

I think the key to this thing is for the FAA to set up a program whereby the interested antiquer could satisfy them that he is qualified to restore and mainshytain his antique This may not be as far away from FAA thinking as one might imagine as there has been talk around for some time at lower levels that the AampE ratings cover too much area for the average mechanic In other words the thinking in some areas of the FAA is that specialized ratings might be needed to have better qualified people in the field where needed If this thinking is still being kicked around in the FAA then the people in the antique field would fit into the thinking already floating around

A specialized rating for antiquers that covered about what was in old manual 18 would not be diffi shycult to qualify for I would favor two ratings along the lines of the AampP If an antiquer did not want to get into the mechanics of engines he could go after an airframe rating only If he wanted to be able to annual his antique then of course he would have to hold both tickets To satisfy the FARs and the inshysurance companies I think the antique rating apshyproach has good merit

I have talked to several antiquers not rated and they all said that they would be happy to work toshyward a limited type rating that would allow them unrestricted labor on their own aircraft They all feel that they should have this opportunity and I concur I have not always been happy to sign off work as an IA due to the fact that there is no such thing as direct supervision even if you are in the same room all the time Also I have seen the FAA just as uneasy mostly because they as a whole are far from qualified to judge most antiques

Well hope this fills a small gap in the ove rall picture If I can be of further help in any way please let me know

Sincerely Bob Younkin 55 Appleby Road Razorback Airport Fayetteville Arkansas 72701 26

Are you restoring a Classic

)(U1t dJ4 ~~

I~

Jj FINISH IT RIGHT WITH AN

4~ INTERIOR All Items Designed for Easy

DOmiddotITmiddot YOURSELF INSTALLATION

~~ CUSHION UPHOLSTERY SETS UPHOLSTERED FOAM CUSHION SETS

WALL PANEL SETS bull HEADLINERSmiddot CARPETS

Airtex interior upholstery items are all made up into complete assemblies ready for you to install Your choice of three fabric styles and twenty colors Luxurious cut pile carpets in seven colors wrinkleshyfree Duraliner headliners baggage compartshyments seat slings and fire wall covers are also available for Classic planes

RE-COVER ENVELOPES Available for all Classics and some Antique models in Ceconjte 101 102 and cotton Airtex makes the worlds finest envelopes

rodolplpound AIRCRAFT FINISHES Nitrate amp butyrate dope enamelurethane thinners reducer retarder and primers Complete stock of re-covering supplies

Send $100 for Catalog and Our Fabrics Selection Guide

(iIziea p~ Jnc DEPT R LOWER MORRISVILLE ROAD

FALLSINGTON PA 19054

(215) 295-4115

27

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No 12 - Nose rib in place No 15 - Form to fit inside of old damaged spar tip rib NO 78 - Hand form mg

No 73 - C1eco nose rib to spa r No 16 - 032 alclad ready to be clamped in form No 79 - Flanging spar tip

No 74 - Ready to repair rear spar No 77 - Form ready for hand bending jig for lightening holes No 20 - More of same 22

No 27 - Trim off excess flange No 24 - Test fit to spar No 27 - 032 alclad 2024 TJ

No 22 - Trim square to form No 25 - Fly cutting lightening holes No 28 - Spar tip ready for installation

No 23 - Remove from form No 26 - Flanging No 29 - Clecos test line up 23

The Babv Cessna

It was born in Wichita Kansas at the Cessna fac-shytory in 1929 Because of the stock market slump the Airplane manufacturing business fell off drasshytically To try and keep the plant in operation Eldon Cessna decided to design and build a light airplane that could be sold at a low price As a result the EC-1 was developed It was powered with a 25 hp Cleone engine

At the time I was enrolled at the Braley School of Flying which was located directly across the road to the east of the Cessna field I spent much of my spare time at the field watching the men work on and fly the Baby Cessna It was a fascinating little airplane

Early last year I was looking for a suitable airshyplane to model for a C02 Powered model airplane contest I remembered the Baby Cessna and thought it would be just what I wanted

In doing research for drawings and photos I found that photos of both the EC-1 and the EC-2 were available but no drawings I had a photo of the EC-1 that I had taken with my Brownie box camera The EC-2 looked cleaner with its design refinements and the Aeronca E-107 engine

I met Eldon Cessna at-an OX5 get-to-gether at the Santa Paula Airport and we discussed the EC-2 at length He informed me that plans had never been published The EC-2 (cn 253 N405W) was the last Baby Cessna built

From the photos and from memory of being around the Baby Cessna these plans for a model were drawn Imagine what a delightful fun airplane it would be for a homebuilt replica project today These specifications appeared in the 1930 issue of Air Age magazine

Baby Cessna EC-2 (cn253 N405W) 30 hp Aeronca E-707A

bull 1

Baby Cessna EC-7 (cn 257 N403W) 25 hp Cleone 1930

By Cedric Calloway EAA 752

74624 Willow Street Hesperia CA 92345

~ --~ THE BABY CESSNA

Span 34 ft 11 in Wing area 163 sq ft Length overall 20 ft 4 in Height overall bull 5 ft 6 in Weights

Empty 470 Ibs Gross 925 Ibs

Gasoline capacity 8 gal Oil capacity 34 gal Power (Aeronca E-107A) 30 hp

PERFORMANCE

High speed 86 mph Cruising speed 70 mph Stalling speed 38 mph Climb first minute 740 ft Ceiling (service) 15000 ft Cruising range 200 miles

24

CLASSIFIED ADS

ADVERTISING ClOSING DATE 10th OF THE SECOND MONTH PRIOR TO PUBLICATION DATE (THAT IS MARCH 10th IS ClOSING DATE FOR MAY ISSUE) CLASSIFIED ADmiddot VERTISING RATE Regular type per word 35c Bold face type per word 40c ALL CAPS per word 45c (Min imum charge $5 00) (Rate covers one insertion one issue) PAYmiddot MENT WITH ORDER

REPLICA 1912 CURTISS PUSHER - Excellent craftsmanship fabric Cmiddot65 90 SMOH A real crowd pleaser - $4800 or best offer 8051498middot5101

TAYLORCRAFT BDmiddot12D - Razorback butyrate New Slick ignition Genave 100 Comm portable installed Spare prop and compass Sound 65 hp Cont Fresh annual $5000 Firm Crawford 7500 Balboa Van Nuys CA 91406

ENGINES

65 Continental - Approx 1000 hrs Logs Complete except for one mag 414387middot4895

Two Continental aircraft engines for sale Crated and ready for shipment Continental Amiddot75-8 OSMO - Total Time 1386 hrs Crankshaft - standard size - pistons 015 over Comshyplete less carbo Complete logs Price - $185000 Continenshytal A-65-8 OSMO - Total Time 218 hrs Pistons and crankshyshaft - standard size Complete less harness Complete logs Price - $225000 Jon J Thompson telephone 804 285-2929 9 AM - 5 PM Monday through Friday

PROPELLERS

Custom built props for Con tin ental Lycoming GPUs etc Fast delivery Chad Wille 5957 Sevi ll e St Lake Grove OR 97034

ARROW SPORT reduction gear and o il pan for Ford V-8 flatshyhead engine new Mark Dees 358 S Beverly Dr Beverly Hill s CA 90212 213552-0192

WANTED Any information concerning the Lincoln Sport Biplane produced in Lincoln Nebraska in the 1920s (parshytial plans shown in the 1930 Flying and Glider Manual ) Mr Harry R Owen Box 304 Isanti MN 55040

Calendar of Events JUNE 9-11 - SPRINGFIELD OHIO - 2nd Annual Spring EAA Midshy

Eastern Regional Fly-In (ME RFI ) Air Show awards on airport camping static displays etc Please check NOTAMS Contact Myrna Lewi s 241 Bassett Drive Springfie ld Ohio 44506 5131 323-2424

JUNE 16-18 - ANDERSON INDIANA - Second Annual Cessna 120shy140 Assn Fly- In and meeting Quad City Municipal Airport Moshyline Ill inois For information con tact Frank Han cock SecfTreas 3941 West Cross St Anderson IN 46011317643-1593

JUNE 17middot18 - FREDERICKSBURG VIRG INIA - Antique Aircraft FlyshyIn Shannon Airport Air Show attract ions Bob Hoover Bob Rus shysell and Duane Cole

JUNE 21middot26 - TULLAHOMA TENNESSEE - Annual Staggerwingl Travel Air International Convention Forums formation fl yi ng and fun Contad John Parish clo Lannom Mfg Co Tullahoma Tennessee 38388 615455-0691

JUNE 23middot25 - HAMILTON OHIO - Annual National Waco Reunion Fly-In Contact Ray Brandly 2650 W Alex-Bell Rd Dayton OH 45459 513435-9725

JULY 1-2 - GAINESVILLE GEORGIA - 11th Annual Cracker Fly-In at Lee-Gilmer Airport Awards will be presented in all categories O ur banquet will be at the Gainesville Ho liday Inn Saturday night July 2 Len Povey has accepted an invitation to be guest speaker Accommodations - Gainesvi lle Holiday Inn and other local motels Information Jim Ealy 3535 Childers Road Roswell Georgia 30075 404993-4568

JULY 1-9 - BLAKESBURG IOWA - Wright Brothers 75th Annivershysary Fly-In at th e Antique Airfield In cl udes World War II PT and Liaison Plane Fly-In July 1-3 Fairchild Club Fly-In and Unique Airshyplane Fly-In July 8-9

JULY 9 - EASTON PENNSYLVANIA - 2nd Annual Aeronca FlyshyIn Easton Airport 10 AM to 230 PM open to all types of Aeroncas Rain date July 16 Contact Jim Polles 2151759-3713 nights and weekends

JULY 14-16 - MINDEN NEBRASKA - Second Annual National Stinshyson Club Fly-In Pioneer Field near Harold Warp s Pioneer Vilshylage BBQ Friday night for early arriva ls Saturday night banq uet and awards Schedu led events Fly-In Chairman Bob Near 2702 Butterfoot Lane Hastings Nebraska 68901 402463-9309

JULY 15middot16 - LOCKPORT ILLINOI S - Chapter 15 and 86 of the Ch icago area EAA are now formulating plans for their 18th Annua l Fly-In and Air Show to be held at Lewis University In shyformation Janice P Fish PO 411 Lemont Illinoi s 60439

JULY 15-16 - LONG ISLAND NEW YORK - Antique Airp lane Club of Grea ter New York 16th Annual Fly- In Brookhaven Airport Brookhaven Long Island New York

JULY 16 - DUNKIRK NEW YORK - A nnual Fly-In Breakfast sponsored by EAA Chapter 46 and Dunkirk Rotary Free breakshyfast to homebui lders antique and warbi rd pilots Trophies in all EAA classes Spot landing contest on arrival Contact Charles Gallagher 19 Shelby Drive Buffalo New York 14225

JULY 21-23 - COFFEYVILLE KANSAS - Funk Fly- In Funk owners pilots and friends invited Fly-b ys factory and museum tours banquet Contact G Dale Beach 1621 Dreher Street Sacramento California 95814 o r Joe C Funk 2409 Edgevale Drive Coffeyshyville Kansas 67337

JULY 29 - AUGUST 5 - OSHKOSH WISCONSIN - 26th Ann ual EAA FlY-in Plan now - its the greatest show on eart h

AUGUST 6-12 - LAKELAND FLORIDA - International Cessna 170 Associat ion Conven tion Lakeland Florida

AUGUST 7-12 - FOND DU LAC WISCONSIN - 13th Annua l EAN lAC Internationa l Aeroba tic Championships For further informashytion conta ct Sam Maxwell 2116 Erie North Kansas City MO 64116

EAA ANTIQUECLASSIC DIVISION

MEMBERSHIP DRIVE

~~air of Antique Goggles by persuading 5 people to JOin

er A Leather Flying Helmet when you get 10 people to sign up

- then start over and win again

~A free five year membershyship in the AntiqueClassic Division if you sponsor the most new members in 1978

To Qualify Write your name and membershyship number on the back of the membershyship b lanks we ve been providing in THE VIN TA GE AIRPLAN E Headq uarters w ill keep sco re

25

1 I~rlII~llS Dear Sir

I am trying to get information on an aircraft that was built during the 20s called the Golden Eagle Chief It was a parasol wing powered by a radial engine type unshyknown Only about seven were built If any of your Antique classic division members know anything about this aircraft I would like to get in touch with them

I would like to take this opportunity to express what an outstanding organization I think the EAA is Ive only been a member for three years and only regret the years before I joined SPORT AVIATION is one of the best publications that I have ever read I have been to Oshkosh twice and to quite a few local fly-ins including Sun N Fun and have never seen anything more organized or better run I am looking forward to Oshkosh 78 and to continued membership in a fine organization

Sincerely james E Spradley (EAA 108947) PO Box 146 Rutledge Alabama 36071

Dear Mr Nielander Your editorial in the February issue of The Vinshy

tage Airplane is the best expression of the question of who is really qualified to maintain antique and classic aircraft (this applies equally well to some curshyrent aircraft such as the Bellanca Viking etc)

I submit the following recommendation as a way to offset some of the difficulties expressed in your excellent editorial to wit

The FAA should grant an A and E (or P) mechanics license to an individual who meets the following qualifications

(1) Passes three written examinations now required for the rating

(2) Passes the practical examination currently reshyquired

(3) Can show that he has actually done the major portion of the work in the restoration of an antique or classic airplane

You will note that the difference between these requirements and the current FAR part 65 requireshyments is the modification of sec 6577 which relates to on-the-job or schooling experience

From my own experience in restoring three airshyplanes (Luscombe Stinson Reliant Beechcraft B17L) I know that the amount of honest-to-God airplane and engine work in the usual restoration project is in exshycess of the stuff that the students in the approved

mechanic schools get Moreover during the 30 months practical experience referred to in FAR 6577 a lot of that time is spent just removing cowlings cleanshying sparkplugs changing tires sweeping floors pumpshying gas and plowing snow I guess what Im trying to do is build a case which shows that the antique classic restorer or homebuilder knows just as much about airplanes in general as does the individual who qualifies under the current provisions of FAR sec 6577

Very truly yours Thomas R Rench 1601 Circlewood Drive Racine Wisconsin 53402

Dear AI Perhaps I can shed a little light on the centershy

fold of the February issue of The Vintage Airplane The two planes pictured in the center of the page

are Top picture Wright Martin (Loening) M-8 Botshytom picture is an Ansaldo SVA-5 or SVA-9

The Loen ing was manufactured by the Wright Marshytin Corp and was built in 1921-1922 The factory deSignation was M-8

The Army Air Service designation was PW-2 PWshy2A and PW-2B Two of the PW-2 model were built in 1921 Gross weight was 2788 Ibs span 39 8 length 24 2 Ten of the PW-2A model were ordered by the Air Service but the order was cancelled after four were built in 1922 Gross weight was 2799 Ibs span 39 9 length 26 1

The PW2B was evaluated in 1922 but was never built Gross weight was to be 2976 Ibs span 34 1 length 23 4

PW-2 and PW-2A were powered by the Wright Martin H of 320 hp which was a Hisso built under license The PW2-B was to be powered by a 350 hp Packard engine

The Ansaldo can be either an SVA-5 or SVA-9 as the front view doesnt show whether it is a two place or single place The SVA-5 was single place while the SVA-9 was two place Both were powered by the Breda SPA-6A engine which was 6 cylinders and rated at 200 hp at 1600 rpm

I understand that there is an SVA-5 in a museum in Connecticut but I am not sure of this

Hope this information will be of some use to you Best regards H M Harkcom Harkcom Aircraft Service Rt 1 Inola Oklahoma

Dear AI In the February issue j R Nielander wrote an in shy

teresting editorial concerning the possibilities in the area of personal certification of antique aircraft by the owner restorer

Without blowing my own horn too loud I have worked with antiquers and others for the last 28 years doing what j R talks about signing off work for non-rated owners A lot of these people are really sharp and most do above average work and should be allowed to cut it on their own somehow

I think the key to this thing is for the FAA to set up a program whereby the interested antiquer could satisfy them that he is qualified to restore and mainshytain his antique This may not be as far away from FAA thinking as one might imagine as there has been talk around for some time at lower levels that the AampE ratings cover too much area for the average mechanic In other words the thinking in some areas of the FAA is that specialized ratings might be needed to have better qualified people in the field where needed If this thinking is still being kicked around in the FAA then the people in the antique field would fit into the thinking already floating around

A specialized rating for antiquers that covered about what was in old manual 18 would not be diffi shycult to qualify for I would favor two ratings along the lines of the AampP If an antiquer did not want to get into the mechanics of engines he could go after an airframe rating only If he wanted to be able to annual his antique then of course he would have to hold both tickets To satisfy the FARs and the inshysurance companies I think the antique rating apshyproach has good merit

I have talked to several antiquers not rated and they all said that they would be happy to work toshyward a limited type rating that would allow them unrestricted labor on their own aircraft They all feel that they should have this opportunity and I concur I have not always been happy to sign off work as an IA due to the fact that there is no such thing as direct supervision even if you are in the same room all the time Also I have seen the FAA just as uneasy mostly because they as a whole are far from qualified to judge most antiques

Well hope this fills a small gap in the ove rall picture If I can be of further help in any way please let me know

Sincerely Bob Younkin 55 Appleby Road Razorback Airport Fayetteville Arkansas 72701 26

Are you restoring a Classic

)(U1t dJ4 ~~

I~

Jj FINISH IT RIGHT WITH AN

4~ INTERIOR All Items Designed for Easy

DOmiddotITmiddot YOURSELF INSTALLATION

~~ CUSHION UPHOLSTERY SETS UPHOLSTERED FOAM CUSHION SETS

WALL PANEL SETS bull HEADLINERSmiddot CARPETS

Airtex interior upholstery items are all made up into complete assemblies ready for you to install Your choice of three fabric styles and twenty colors Luxurious cut pile carpets in seven colors wrinkleshyfree Duraliner headliners baggage compartshyments seat slings and fire wall covers are also available for Classic planes

RE-COVER ENVELOPES Available for all Classics and some Antique models in Ceconjte 101 102 and cotton Airtex makes the worlds finest envelopes

rodolplpound AIRCRAFT FINISHES Nitrate amp butyrate dope enamelurethane thinners reducer retarder and primers Complete stock of re-covering supplies

Send $100 for Catalog and Our Fabrics Selection Guide

(iIziea p~ Jnc DEPT R LOWER MORRISVILLE ROAD

FALLSINGTON PA 19054

(215) 295-4115

27

Page 22: Vintage Airplane - Jun 1978

No 27 - Trim off excess flange No 24 - Test fit to spar No 27 - 032 alclad 2024 TJ

No 22 - Trim square to form No 25 - Fly cutting lightening holes No 28 - Spar tip ready for installation

No 23 - Remove from form No 26 - Flanging No 29 - Clecos test line up 23

The Babv Cessna

It was born in Wichita Kansas at the Cessna fac-shytory in 1929 Because of the stock market slump the Airplane manufacturing business fell off drasshytically To try and keep the plant in operation Eldon Cessna decided to design and build a light airplane that could be sold at a low price As a result the EC-1 was developed It was powered with a 25 hp Cleone engine

At the time I was enrolled at the Braley School of Flying which was located directly across the road to the east of the Cessna field I spent much of my spare time at the field watching the men work on and fly the Baby Cessna It was a fascinating little airplane

Early last year I was looking for a suitable airshyplane to model for a C02 Powered model airplane contest I remembered the Baby Cessna and thought it would be just what I wanted

In doing research for drawings and photos I found that photos of both the EC-1 and the EC-2 were available but no drawings I had a photo of the EC-1 that I had taken with my Brownie box camera The EC-2 looked cleaner with its design refinements and the Aeronca E-107 engine

I met Eldon Cessna at-an OX5 get-to-gether at the Santa Paula Airport and we discussed the EC-2 at length He informed me that plans had never been published The EC-2 (cn 253 N405W) was the last Baby Cessna built

From the photos and from memory of being around the Baby Cessna these plans for a model were drawn Imagine what a delightful fun airplane it would be for a homebuilt replica project today These specifications appeared in the 1930 issue of Air Age magazine

Baby Cessna EC-2 (cn253 N405W) 30 hp Aeronca E-707A

bull 1

Baby Cessna EC-7 (cn 257 N403W) 25 hp Cleone 1930

By Cedric Calloway EAA 752

74624 Willow Street Hesperia CA 92345

~ --~ THE BABY CESSNA

Span 34 ft 11 in Wing area 163 sq ft Length overall 20 ft 4 in Height overall bull 5 ft 6 in Weights

Empty 470 Ibs Gross 925 Ibs

Gasoline capacity 8 gal Oil capacity 34 gal Power (Aeronca E-107A) 30 hp

PERFORMANCE

High speed 86 mph Cruising speed 70 mph Stalling speed 38 mph Climb first minute 740 ft Ceiling (service) 15000 ft Cruising range 200 miles

24

CLASSIFIED ADS

ADVERTISING ClOSING DATE 10th OF THE SECOND MONTH PRIOR TO PUBLICATION DATE (THAT IS MARCH 10th IS ClOSING DATE FOR MAY ISSUE) CLASSIFIED ADmiddot VERTISING RATE Regular type per word 35c Bold face type per word 40c ALL CAPS per word 45c (Min imum charge $5 00) (Rate covers one insertion one issue) PAYmiddot MENT WITH ORDER

REPLICA 1912 CURTISS PUSHER - Excellent craftsmanship fabric Cmiddot65 90 SMOH A real crowd pleaser - $4800 or best offer 8051498middot5101

TAYLORCRAFT BDmiddot12D - Razorback butyrate New Slick ignition Genave 100 Comm portable installed Spare prop and compass Sound 65 hp Cont Fresh annual $5000 Firm Crawford 7500 Balboa Van Nuys CA 91406

ENGINES

65 Continental - Approx 1000 hrs Logs Complete except for one mag 414387middot4895

Two Continental aircraft engines for sale Crated and ready for shipment Continental Amiddot75-8 OSMO - Total Time 1386 hrs Crankshaft - standard size - pistons 015 over Comshyplete less carbo Complete logs Price - $185000 Continenshytal A-65-8 OSMO - Total Time 218 hrs Pistons and crankshyshaft - standard size Complete less harness Complete logs Price - $225000 Jon J Thompson telephone 804 285-2929 9 AM - 5 PM Monday through Friday

PROPELLERS

Custom built props for Con tin ental Lycoming GPUs etc Fast delivery Chad Wille 5957 Sevi ll e St Lake Grove OR 97034

ARROW SPORT reduction gear and o il pan for Ford V-8 flatshyhead engine new Mark Dees 358 S Beverly Dr Beverly Hill s CA 90212 213552-0192

WANTED Any information concerning the Lincoln Sport Biplane produced in Lincoln Nebraska in the 1920s (parshytial plans shown in the 1930 Flying and Glider Manual ) Mr Harry R Owen Box 304 Isanti MN 55040

Calendar of Events JUNE 9-11 - SPRINGFIELD OHIO - 2nd Annual Spring EAA Midshy

Eastern Regional Fly-In (ME RFI ) Air Show awards on airport camping static displays etc Please check NOTAMS Contact Myrna Lewi s 241 Bassett Drive Springfie ld Ohio 44506 5131 323-2424

JUNE 16-18 - ANDERSON INDIANA - Second Annual Cessna 120shy140 Assn Fly- In and meeting Quad City Municipal Airport Moshyline Ill inois For information con tact Frank Han cock SecfTreas 3941 West Cross St Anderson IN 46011317643-1593

JUNE 17middot18 - FREDERICKSBURG VIRG INIA - Antique Aircraft FlyshyIn Shannon Airport Air Show attract ions Bob Hoover Bob Rus shysell and Duane Cole

JUNE 21middot26 - TULLAHOMA TENNESSEE - Annual Staggerwingl Travel Air International Convention Forums formation fl yi ng and fun Contad John Parish clo Lannom Mfg Co Tullahoma Tennessee 38388 615455-0691

JUNE 23middot25 - HAMILTON OHIO - Annual National Waco Reunion Fly-In Contact Ray Brandly 2650 W Alex-Bell Rd Dayton OH 45459 513435-9725

JULY 1-2 - GAINESVILLE GEORGIA - 11th Annual Cracker Fly-In at Lee-Gilmer Airport Awards will be presented in all categories O ur banquet will be at the Gainesville Ho liday Inn Saturday night July 2 Len Povey has accepted an invitation to be guest speaker Accommodations - Gainesvi lle Holiday Inn and other local motels Information Jim Ealy 3535 Childers Road Roswell Georgia 30075 404993-4568

JULY 1-9 - BLAKESBURG IOWA - Wright Brothers 75th Annivershysary Fly-In at th e Antique Airfield In cl udes World War II PT and Liaison Plane Fly-In July 1-3 Fairchild Club Fly-In and Unique Airshyplane Fly-In July 8-9

JULY 9 - EASTON PENNSYLVANIA - 2nd Annual Aeronca FlyshyIn Easton Airport 10 AM to 230 PM open to all types of Aeroncas Rain date July 16 Contact Jim Polles 2151759-3713 nights and weekends

JULY 14-16 - MINDEN NEBRASKA - Second Annual National Stinshyson Club Fly-In Pioneer Field near Harold Warp s Pioneer Vilshylage BBQ Friday night for early arriva ls Saturday night banq uet and awards Schedu led events Fly-In Chairman Bob Near 2702 Butterfoot Lane Hastings Nebraska 68901 402463-9309

JULY 15middot16 - LOCKPORT ILLINOI S - Chapter 15 and 86 of the Ch icago area EAA are now formulating plans for their 18th Annua l Fly-In and Air Show to be held at Lewis University In shyformation Janice P Fish PO 411 Lemont Illinoi s 60439

JULY 15-16 - LONG ISLAND NEW YORK - Antique Airp lane Club of Grea ter New York 16th Annual Fly- In Brookhaven Airport Brookhaven Long Island New York

JULY 16 - DUNKIRK NEW YORK - A nnual Fly-In Breakfast sponsored by EAA Chapter 46 and Dunkirk Rotary Free breakshyfast to homebui lders antique and warbi rd pilots Trophies in all EAA classes Spot landing contest on arrival Contact Charles Gallagher 19 Shelby Drive Buffalo New York 14225

JULY 21-23 - COFFEYVILLE KANSAS - Funk Fly- In Funk owners pilots and friends invited Fly-b ys factory and museum tours banquet Contact G Dale Beach 1621 Dreher Street Sacramento California 95814 o r Joe C Funk 2409 Edgevale Drive Coffeyshyville Kansas 67337

JULY 29 - AUGUST 5 - OSHKOSH WISCONSIN - 26th Ann ual EAA FlY-in Plan now - its the greatest show on eart h

AUGUST 6-12 - LAKELAND FLORIDA - International Cessna 170 Associat ion Conven tion Lakeland Florida

AUGUST 7-12 - FOND DU LAC WISCONSIN - 13th Annua l EAN lAC Internationa l Aeroba tic Championships For further informashytion conta ct Sam Maxwell 2116 Erie North Kansas City MO 64116

EAA ANTIQUECLASSIC DIVISION

MEMBERSHIP DRIVE

~~air of Antique Goggles by persuading 5 people to JOin

er A Leather Flying Helmet when you get 10 people to sign up

- then start over and win again

~A free five year membershyship in the AntiqueClassic Division if you sponsor the most new members in 1978

To Qualify Write your name and membershyship number on the back of the membershyship b lanks we ve been providing in THE VIN TA GE AIRPLAN E Headq uarters w ill keep sco re

25

1 I~rlII~llS Dear Sir

I am trying to get information on an aircraft that was built during the 20s called the Golden Eagle Chief It was a parasol wing powered by a radial engine type unshyknown Only about seven were built If any of your Antique classic division members know anything about this aircraft I would like to get in touch with them

I would like to take this opportunity to express what an outstanding organization I think the EAA is Ive only been a member for three years and only regret the years before I joined SPORT AVIATION is one of the best publications that I have ever read I have been to Oshkosh twice and to quite a few local fly-ins including Sun N Fun and have never seen anything more organized or better run I am looking forward to Oshkosh 78 and to continued membership in a fine organization

Sincerely james E Spradley (EAA 108947) PO Box 146 Rutledge Alabama 36071

Dear Mr Nielander Your editorial in the February issue of The Vinshy

tage Airplane is the best expression of the question of who is really qualified to maintain antique and classic aircraft (this applies equally well to some curshyrent aircraft such as the Bellanca Viking etc)

I submit the following recommendation as a way to offset some of the difficulties expressed in your excellent editorial to wit

The FAA should grant an A and E (or P) mechanics license to an individual who meets the following qualifications

(1) Passes three written examinations now required for the rating

(2) Passes the practical examination currently reshyquired

(3) Can show that he has actually done the major portion of the work in the restoration of an antique or classic airplane

You will note that the difference between these requirements and the current FAR part 65 requireshyments is the modification of sec 6577 which relates to on-the-job or schooling experience

From my own experience in restoring three airshyplanes (Luscombe Stinson Reliant Beechcraft B17L) I know that the amount of honest-to-God airplane and engine work in the usual restoration project is in exshycess of the stuff that the students in the approved

mechanic schools get Moreover during the 30 months practical experience referred to in FAR 6577 a lot of that time is spent just removing cowlings cleanshying sparkplugs changing tires sweeping floors pumpshying gas and plowing snow I guess what Im trying to do is build a case which shows that the antique classic restorer or homebuilder knows just as much about airplanes in general as does the individual who qualifies under the current provisions of FAR sec 6577

Very truly yours Thomas R Rench 1601 Circlewood Drive Racine Wisconsin 53402

Dear AI Perhaps I can shed a little light on the centershy

fold of the February issue of The Vintage Airplane The two planes pictured in the center of the page

are Top picture Wright Martin (Loening) M-8 Botshytom picture is an Ansaldo SVA-5 or SVA-9

The Loen ing was manufactured by the Wright Marshytin Corp and was built in 1921-1922 The factory deSignation was M-8

The Army Air Service designation was PW-2 PWshy2A and PW-2B Two of the PW-2 model were built in 1921 Gross weight was 2788 Ibs span 39 8 length 24 2 Ten of the PW-2A model were ordered by the Air Service but the order was cancelled after four were built in 1922 Gross weight was 2799 Ibs span 39 9 length 26 1

The PW2B was evaluated in 1922 but was never built Gross weight was to be 2976 Ibs span 34 1 length 23 4

PW-2 and PW-2A were powered by the Wright Martin H of 320 hp which was a Hisso built under license The PW2-B was to be powered by a 350 hp Packard engine

The Ansaldo can be either an SVA-5 or SVA-9 as the front view doesnt show whether it is a two place or single place The SVA-5 was single place while the SVA-9 was two place Both were powered by the Breda SPA-6A engine which was 6 cylinders and rated at 200 hp at 1600 rpm

I understand that there is an SVA-5 in a museum in Connecticut but I am not sure of this

Hope this information will be of some use to you Best regards H M Harkcom Harkcom Aircraft Service Rt 1 Inola Oklahoma

Dear AI In the February issue j R Nielander wrote an in shy

teresting editorial concerning the possibilities in the area of personal certification of antique aircraft by the owner restorer

Without blowing my own horn too loud I have worked with antiquers and others for the last 28 years doing what j R talks about signing off work for non-rated owners A lot of these people are really sharp and most do above average work and should be allowed to cut it on their own somehow

I think the key to this thing is for the FAA to set up a program whereby the interested antiquer could satisfy them that he is qualified to restore and mainshytain his antique This may not be as far away from FAA thinking as one might imagine as there has been talk around for some time at lower levels that the AampE ratings cover too much area for the average mechanic In other words the thinking in some areas of the FAA is that specialized ratings might be needed to have better qualified people in the field where needed If this thinking is still being kicked around in the FAA then the people in the antique field would fit into the thinking already floating around

A specialized rating for antiquers that covered about what was in old manual 18 would not be diffi shycult to qualify for I would favor two ratings along the lines of the AampP If an antiquer did not want to get into the mechanics of engines he could go after an airframe rating only If he wanted to be able to annual his antique then of course he would have to hold both tickets To satisfy the FARs and the inshysurance companies I think the antique rating apshyproach has good merit

I have talked to several antiquers not rated and they all said that they would be happy to work toshyward a limited type rating that would allow them unrestricted labor on their own aircraft They all feel that they should have this opportunity and I concur I have not always been happy to sign off work as an IA due to the fact that there is no such thing as direct supervision even if you are in the same room all the time Also I have seen the FAA just as uneasy mostly because they as a whole are far from qualified to judge most antiques

Well hope this fills a small gap in the ove rall picture If I can be of further help in any way please let me know

Sincerely Bob Younkin 55 Appleby Road Razorback Airport Fayetteville Arkansas 72701 26

Are you restoring a Classic

)(U1t dJ4 ~~

I~

Jj FINISH IT RIGHT WITH AN

4~ INTERIOR All Items Designed for Easy

DOmiddotITmiddot YOURSELF INSTALLATION

~~ CUSHION UPHOLSTERY SETS UPHOLSTERED FOAM CUSHION SETS

WALL PANEL SETS bull HEADLINERSmiddot CARPETS

Airtex interior upholstery items are all made up into complete assemblies ready for you to install Your choice of three fabric styles and twenty colors Luxurious cut pile carpets in seven colors wrinkleshyfree Duraliner headliners baggage compartshyments seat slings and fire wall covers are also available for Classic planes

RE-COVER ENVELOPES Available for all Classics and some Antique models in Ceconjte 101 102 and cotton Airtex makes the worlds finest envelopes

rodolplpound AIRCRAFT FINISHES Nitrate amp butyrate dope enamelurethane thinners reducer retarder and primers Complete stock of re-covering supplies

Send $100 for Catalog and Our Fabrics Selection Guide

(iIziea p~ Jnc DEPT R LOWER MORRISVILLE ROAD

FALLSINGTON PA 19054

(215) 295-4115

27

Page 23: Vintage Airplane - Jun 1978

The Babv Cessna

It was born in Wichita Kansas at the Cessna fac-shytory in 1929 Because of the stock market slump the Airplane manufacturing business fell off drasshytically To try and keep the plant in operation Eldon Cessna decided to design and build a light airplane that could be sold at a low price As a result the EC-1 was developed It was powered with a 25 hp Cleone engine

At the time I was enrolled at the Braley School of Flying which was located directly across the road to the east of the Cessna field I spent much of my spare time at the field watching the men work on and fly the Baby Cessna It was a fascinating little airplane

Early last year I was looking for a suitable airshyplane to model for a C02 Powered model airplane contest I remembered the Baby Cessna and thought it would be just what I wanted

In doing research for drawings and photos I found that photos of both the EC-1 and the EC-2 were available but no drawings I had a photo of the EC-1 that I had taken with my Brownie box camera The EC-2 looked cleaner with its design refinements and the Aeronca E-107 engine

I met Eldon Cessna at-an OX5 get-to-gether at the Santa Paula Airport and we discussed the EC-2 at length He informed me that plans had never been published The EC-2 (cn 253 N405W) was the last Baby Cessna built

From the photos and from memory of being around the Baby Cessna these plans for a model were drawn Imagine what a delightful fun airplane it would be for a homebuilt replica project today These specifications appeared in the 1930 issue of Air Age magazine

Baby Cessna EC-2 (cn253 N405W) 30 hp Aeronca E-707A

bull 1

Baby Cessna EC-7 (cn 257 N403W) 25 hp Cleone 1930

By Cedric Calloway EAA 752

74624 Willow Street Hesperia CA 92345

~ --~ THE BABY CESSNA

Span 34 ft 11 in Wing area 163 sq ft Length overall 20 ft 4 in Height overall bull 5 ft 6 in Weights

Empty 470 Ibs Gross 925 Ibs

Gasoline capacity 8 gal Oil capacity 34 gal Power (Aeronca E-107A) 30 hp

PERFORMANCE

High speed 86 mph Cruising speed 70 mph Stalling speed 38 mph Climb first minute 740 ft Ceiling (service) 15000 ft Cruising range 200 miles

24

CLASSIFIED ADS

ADVERTISING ClOSING DATE 10th OF THE SECOND MONTH PRIOR TO PUBLICATION DATE (THAT IS MARCH 10th IS ClOSING DATE FOR MAY ISSUE) CLASSIFIED ADmiddot VERTISING RATE Regular type per word 35c Bold face type per word 40c ALL CAPS per word 45c (Min imum charge $5 00) (Rate covers one insertion one issue) PAYmiddot MENT WITH ORDER

REPLICA 1912 CURTISS PUSHER - Excellent craftsmanship fabric Cmiddot65 90 SMOH A real crowd pleaser - $4800 or best offer 8051498middot5101

TAYLORCRAFT BDmiddot12D - Razorback butyrate New Slick ignition Genave 100 Comm portable installed Spare prop and compass Sound 65 hp Cont Fresh annual $5000 Firm Crawford 7500 Balboa Van Nuys CA 91406

ENGINES

65 Continental - Approx 1000 hrs Logs Complete except for one mag 414387middot4895

Two Continental aircraft engines for sale Crated and ready for shipment Continental Amiddot75-8 OSMO - Total Time 1386 hrs Crankshaft - standard size - pistons 015 over Comshyplete less carbo Complete logs Price - $185000 Continenshytal A-65-8 OSMO - Total Time 218 hrs Pistons and crankshyshaft - standard size Complete less harness Complete logs Price - $225000 Jon J Thompson telephone 804 285-2929 9 AM - 5 PM Monday through Friday

PROPELLERS

Custom built props for Con tin ental Lycoming GPUs etc Fast delivery Chad Wille 5957 Sevi ll e St Lake Grove OR 97034

ARROW SPORT reduction gear and o il pan for Ford V-8 flatshyhead engine new Mark Dees 358 S Beverly Dr Beverly Hill s CA 90212 213552-0192

WANTED Any information concerning the Lincoln Sport Biplane produced in Lincoln Nebraska in the 1920s (parshytial plans shown in the 1930 Flying and Glider Manual ) Mr Harry R Owen Box 304 Isanti MN 55040

Calendar of Events JUNE 9-11 - SPRINGFIELD OHIO - 2nd Annual Spring EAA Midshy

Eastern Regional Fly-In (ME RFI ) Air Show awards on airport camping static displays etc Please check NOTAMS Contact Myrna Lewi s 241 Bassett Drive Springfie ld Ohio 44506 5131 323-2424

JUNE 16-18 - ANDERSON INDIANA - Second Annual Cessna 120shy140 Assn Fly- In and meeting Quad City Municipal Airport Moshyline Ill inois For information con tact Frank Han cock SecfTreas 3941 West Cross St Anderson IN 46011317643-1593

JUNE 17middot18 - FREDERICKSBURG VIRG INIA - Antique Aircraft FlyshyIn Shannon Airport Air Show attract ions Bob Hoover Bob Rus shysell and Duane Cole

JUNE 21middot26 - TULLAHOMA TENNESSEE - Annual Staggerwingl Travel Air International Convention Forums formation fl yi ng and fun Contad John Parish clo Lannom Mfg Co Tullahoma Tennessee 38388 615455-0691

JUNE 23middot25 - HAMILTON OHIO - Annual National Waco Reunion Fly-In Contact Ray Brandly 2650 W Alex-Bell Rd Dayton OH 45459 513435-9725

JULY 1-2 - GAINESVILLE GEORGIA - 11th Annual Cracker Fly-In at Lee-Gilmer Airport Awards will be presented in all categories O ur banquet will be at the Gainesville Ho liday Inn Saturday night July 2 Len Povey has accepted an invitation to be guest speaker Accommodations - Gainesvi lle Holiday Inn and other local motels Information Jim Ealy 3535 Childers Road Roswell Georgia 30075 404993-4568

JULY 1-9 - BLAKESBURG IOWA - Wright Brothers 75th Annivershysary Fly-In at th e Antique Airfield In cl udes World War II PT and Liaison Plane Fly-In July 1-3 Fairchild Club Fly-In and Unique Airshyplane Fly-In July 8-9

JULY 9 - EASTON PENNSYLVANIA - 2nd Annual Aeronca FlyshyIn Easton Airport 10 AM to 230 PM open to all types of Aeroncas Rain date July 16 Contact Jim Polles 2151759-3713 nights and weekends

JULY 14-16 - MINDEN NEBRASKA - Second Annual National Stinshyson Club Fly-In Pioneer Field near Harold Warp s Pioneer Vilshylage BBQ Friday night for early arriva ls Saturday night banq uet and awards Schedu led events Fly-In Chairman Bob Near 2702 Butterfoot Lane Hastings Nebraska 68901 402463-9309

JULY 15middot16 - LOCKPORT ILLINOI S - Chapter 15 and 86 of the Ch icago area EAA are now formulating plans for their 18th Annua l Fly-In and Air Show to be held at Lewis University In shyformation Janice P Fish PO 411 Lemont Illinoi s 60439

JULY 15-16 - LONG ISLAND NEW YORK - Antique Airp lane Club of Grea ter New York 16th Annual Fly- In Brookhaven Airport Brookhaven Long Island New York

JULY 16 - DUNKIRK NEW YORK - A nnual Fly-In Breakfast sponsored by EAA Chapter 46 and Dunkirk Rotary Free breakshyfast to homebui lders antique and warbi rd pilots Trophies in all EAA classes Spot landing contest on arrival Contact Charles Gallagher 19 Shelby Drive Buffalo New York 14225

JULY 21-23 - COFFEYVILLE KANSAS - Funk Fly- In Funk owners pilots and friends invited Fly-b ys factory and museum tours banquet Contact G Dale Beach 1621 Dreher Street Sacramento California 95814 o r Joe C Funk 2409 Edgevale Drive Coffeyshyville Kansas 67337

JULY 29 - AUGUST 5 - OSHKOSH WISCONSIN - 26th Ann ual EAA FlY-in Plan now - its the greatest show on eart h

AUGUST 6-12 - LAKELAND FLORIDA - International Cessna 170 Associat ion Conven tion Lakeland Florida

AUGUST 7-12 - FOND DU LAC WISCONSIN - 13th Annua l EAN lAC Internationa l Aeroba tic Championships For further informashytion conta ct Sam Maxwell 2116 Erie North Kansas City MO 64116

EAA ANTIQUECLASSIC DIVISION

MEMBERSHIP DRIVE

~~air of Antique Goggles by persuading 5 people to JOin

er A Leather Flying Helmet when you get 10 people to sign up

- then start over and win again

~A free five year membershyship in the AntiqueClassic Division if you sponsor the most new members in 1978

To Qualify Write your name and membershyship number on the back of the membershyship b lanks we ve been providing in THE VIN TA GE AIRPLAN E Headq uarters w ill keep sco re

25

1 I~rlII~llS Dear Sir

I am trying to get information on an aircraft that was built during the 20s called the Golden Eagle Chief It was a parasol wing powered by a radial engine type unshyknown Only about seven were built If any of your Antique classic division members know anything about this aircraft I would like to get in touch with them

I would like to take this opportunity to express what an outstanding organization I think the EAA is Ive only been a member for three years and only regret the years before I joined SPORT AVIATION is one of the best publications that I have ever read I have been to Oshkosh twice and to quite a few local fly-ins including Sun N Fun and have never seen anything more organized or better run I am looking forward to Oshkosh 78 and to continued membership in a fine organization

Sincerely james E Spradley (EAA 108947) PO Box 146 Rutledge Alabama 36071

Dear Mr Nielander Your editorial in the February issue of The Vinshy

tage Airplane is the best expression of the question of who is really qualified to maintain antique and classic aircraft (this applies equally well to some curshyrent aircraft such as the Bellanca Viking etc)

I submit the following recommendation as a way to offset some of the difficulties expressed in your excellent editorial to wit

The FAA should grant an A and E (or P) mechanics license to an individual who meets the following qualifications

(1) Passes three written examinations now required for the rating

(2) Passes the practical examination currently reshyquired

(3) Can show that he has actually done the major portion of the work in the restoration of an antique or classic airplane

You will note that the difference between these requirements and the current FAR part 65 requireshyments is the modification of sec 6577 which relates to on-the-job or schooling experience

From my own experience in restoring three airshyplanes (Luscombe Stinson Reliant Beechcraft B17L) I know that the amount of honest-to-God airplane and engine work in the usual restoration project is in exshycess of the stuff that the students in the approved

mechanic schools get Moreover during the 30 months practical experience referred to in FAR 6577 a lot of that time is spent just removing cowlings cleanshying sparkplugs changing tires sweeping floors pumpshying gas and plowing snow I guess what Im trying to do is build a case which shows that the antique classic restorer or homebuilder knows just as much about airplanes in general as does the individual who qualifies under the current provisions of FAR sec 6577

Very truly yours Thomas R Rench 1601 Circlewood Drive Racine Wisconsin 53402

Dear AI Perhaps I can shed a little light on the centershy

fold of the February issue of The Vintage Airplane The two planes pictured in the center of the page

are Top picture Wright Martin (Loening) M-8 Botshytom picture is an Ansaldo SVA-5 or SVA-9

The Loen ing was manufactured by the Wright Marshytin Corp and was built in 1921-1922 The factory deSignation was M-8

The Army Air Service designation was PW-2 PWshy2A and PW-2B Two of the PW-2 model were built in 1921 Gross weight was 2788 Ibs span 39 8 length 24 2 Ten of the PW-2A model were ordered by the Air Service but the order was cancelled after four were built in 1922 Gross weight was 2799 Ibs span 39 9 length 26 1

The PW2B was evaluated in 1922 but was never built Gross weight was to be 2976 Ibs span 34 1 length 23 4

PW-2 and PW-2A were powered by the Wright Martin H of 320 hp which was a Hisso built under license The PW2-B was to be powered by a 350 hp Packard engine

The Ansaldo can be either an SVA-5 or SVA-9 as the front view doesnt show whether it is a two place or single place The SVA-5 was single place while the SVA-9 was two place Both were powered by the Breda SPA-6A engine which was 6 cylinders and rated at 200 hp at 1600 rpm

I understand that there is an SVA-5 in a museum in Connecticut but I am not sure of this

Hope this information will be of some use to you Best regards H M Harkcom Harkcom Aircraft Service Rt 1 Inola Oklahoma

Dear AI In the February issue j R Nielander wrote an in shy

teresting editorial concerning the possibilities in the area of personal certification of antique aircraft by the owner restorer

Without blowing my own horn too loud I have worked with antiquers and others for the last 28 years doing what j R talks about signing off work for non-rated owners A lot of these people are really sharp and most do above average work and should be allowed to cut it on their own somehow

I think the key to this thing is for the FAA to set up a program whereby the interested antiquer could satisfy them that he is qualified to restore and mainshytain his antique This may not be as far away from FAA thinking as one might imagine as there has been talk around for some time at lower levels that the AampE ratings cover too much area for the average mechanic In other words the thinking in some areas of the FAA is that specialized ratings might be needed to have better qualified people in the field where needed If this thinking is still being kicked around in the FAA then the people in the antique field would fit into the thinking already floating around

A specialized rating for antiquers that covered about what was in old manual 18 would not be diffi shycult to qualify for I would favor two ratings along the lines of the AampP If an antiquer did not want to get into the mechanics of engines he could go after an airframe rating only If he wanted to be able to annual his antique then of course he would have to hold both tickets To satisfy the FARs and the inshysurance companies I think the antique rating apshyproach has good merit

I have talked to several antiquers not rated and they all said that they would be happy to work toshyward a limited type rating that would allow them unrestricted labor on their own aircraft They all feel that they should have this opportunity and I concur I have not always been happy to sign off work as an IA due to the fact that there is no such thing as direct supervision even if you are in the same room all the time Also I have seen the FAA just as uneasy mostly because they as a whole are far from qualified to judge most antiques

Well hope this fills a small gap in the ove rall picture If I can be of further help in any way please let me know

Sincerely Bob Younkin 55 Appleby Road Razorback Airport Fayetteville Arkansas 72701 26

Are you restoring a Classic

)(U1t dJ4 ~~

I~

Jj FINISH IT RIGHT WITH AN

4~ INTERIOR All Items Designed for Easy

DOmiddotITmiddot YOURSELF INSTALLATION

~~ CUSHION UPHOLSTERY SETS UPHOLSTERED FOAM CUSHION SETS

WALL PANEL SETS bull HEADLINERSmiddot CARPETS

Airtex interior upholstery items are all made up into complete assemblies ready for you to install Your choice of three fabric styles and twenty colors Luxurious cut pile carpets in seven colors wrinkleshyfree Duraliner headliners baggage compartshyments seat slings and fire wall covers are also available for Classic planes

RE-COVER ENVELOPES Available for all Classics and some Antique models in Ceconjte 101 102 and cotton Airtex makes the worlds finest envelopes

rodolplpound AIRCRAFT FINISHES Nitrate amp butyrate dope enamelurethane thinners reducer retarder and primers Complete stock of re-covering supplies

Send $100 for Catalog and Our Fabrics Selection Guide

(iIziea p~ Jnc DEPT R LOWER MORRISVILLE ROAD

FALLSINGTON PA 19054

(215) 295-4115

27

Page 24: Vintage Airplane - Jun 1978

CLASSIFIED ADS

ADVERTISING ClOSING DATE 10th OF THE SECOND MONTH PRIOR TO PUBLICATION DATE (THAT IS MARCH 10th IS ClOSING DATE FOR MAY ISSUE) CLASSIFIED ADmiddot VERTISING RATE Regular type per word 35c Bold face type per word 40c ALL CAPS per word 45c (Min imum charge $5 00) (Rate covers one insertion one issue) PAYmiddot MENT WITH ORDER

REPLICA 1912 CURTISS PUSHER - Excellent craftsmanship fabric Cmiddot65 90 SMOH A real crowd pleaser - $4800 or best offer 8051498middot5101

TAYLORCRAFT BDmiddot12D - Razorback butyrate New Slick ignition Genave 100 Comm portable installed Spare prop and compass Sound 65 hp Cont Fresh annual $5000 Firm Crawford 7500 Balboa Van Nuys CA 91406

ENGINES

65 Continental - Approx 1000 hrs Logs Complete except for one mag 414387middot4895

Two Continental aircraft engines for sale Crated and ready for shipment Continental Amiddot75-8 OSMO - Total Time 1386 hrs Crankshaft - standard size - pistons 015 over Comshyplete less carbo Complete logs Price - $185000 Continenshytal A-65-8 OSMO - Total Time 218 hrs Pistons and crankshyshaft - standard size Complete less harness Complete logs Price - $225000 Jon J Thompson telephone 804 285-2929 9 AM - 5 PM Monday through Friday

PROPELLERS

Custom built props for Con tin ental Lycoming GPUs etc Fast delivery Chad Wille 5957 Sevi ll e St Lake Grove OR 97034

ARROW SPORT reduction gear and o il pan for Ford V-8 flatshyhead engine new Mark Dees 358 S Beverly Dr Beverly Hill s CA 90212 213552-0192

WANTED Any information concerning the Lincoln Sport Biplane produced in Lincoln Nebraska in the 1920s (parshytial plans shown in the 1930 Flying and Glider Manual ) Mr Harry R Owen Box 304 Isanti MN 55040

Calendar of Events JUNE 9-11 - SPRINGFIELD OHIO - 2nd Annual Spring EAA Midshy

Eastern Regional Fly-In (ME RFI ) Air Show awards on airport camping static displays etc Please check NOTAMS Contact Myrna Lewi s 241 Bassett Drive Springfie ld Ohio 44506 5131 323-2424

JUNE 16-18 - ANDERSON INDIANA - Second Annual Cessna 120shy140 Assn Fly- In and meeting Quad City Municipal Airport Moshyline Ill inois For information con tact Frank Han cock SecfTreas 3941 West Cross St Anderson IN 46011317643-1593

JUNE 17middot18 - FREDERICKSBURG VIRG INIA - Antique Aircraft FlyshyIn Shannon Airport Air Show attract ions Bob Hoover Bob Rus shysell and Duane Cole

JUNE 21middot26 - TULLAHOMA TENNESSEE - Annual Staggerwingl Travel Air International Convention Forums formation fl yi ng and fun Contad John Parish clo Lannom Mfg Co Tullahoma Tennessee 38388 615455-0691

JUNE 23middot25 - HAMILTON OHIO - Annual National Waco Reunion Fly-In Contact Ray Brandly 2650 W Alex-Bell Rd Dayton OH 45459 513435-9725

JULY 1-2 - GAINESVILLE GEORGIA - 11th Annual Cracker Fly-In at Lee-Gilmer Airport Awards will be presented in all categories O ur banquet will be at the Gainesville Ho liday Inn Saturday night July 2 Len Povey has accepted an invitation to be guest speaker Accommodations - Gainesvi lle Holiday Inn and other local motels Information Jim Ealy 3535 Childers Road Roswell Georgia 30075 404993-4568

JULY 1-9 - BLAKESBURG IOWA - Wright Brothers 75th Annivershysary Fly-In at th e Antique Airfield In cl udes World War II PT and Liaison Plane Fly-In July 1-3 Fairchild Club Fly-In and Unique Airshyplane Fly-In July 8-9

JULY 9 - EASTON PENNSYLVANIA - 2nd Annual Aeronca FlyshyIn Easton Airport 10 AM to 230 PM open to all types of Aeroncas Rain date July 16 Contact Jim Polles 2151759-3713 nights and weekends

JULY 14-16 - MINDEN NEBRASKA - Second Annual National Stinshyson Club Fly-In Pioneer Field near Harold Warp s Pioneer Vilshylage BBQ Friday night for early arriva ls Saturday night banq uet and awards Schedu led events Fly-In Chairman Bob Near 2702 Butterfoot Lane Hastings Nebraska 68901 402463-9309

JULY 15middot16 - LOCKPORT ILLINOI S - Chapter 15 and 86 of the Ch icago area EAA are now formulating plans for their 18th Annua l Fly-In and Air Show to be held at Lewis University In shyformation Janice P Fish PO 411 Lemont Illinoi s 60439

JULY 15-16 - LONG ISLAND NEW YORK - Antique Airp lane Club of Grea ter New York 16th Annual Fly- In Brookhaven Airport Brookhaven Long Island New York

JULY 16 - DUNKIRK NEW YORK - A nnual Fly-In Breakfast sponsored by EAA Chapter 46 and Dunkirk Rotary Free breakshyfast to homebui lders antique and warbi rd pilots Trophies in all EAA classes Spot landing contest on arrival Contact Charles Gallagher 19 Shelby Drive Buffalo New York 14225

JULY 21-23 - COFFEYVILLE KANSAS - Funk Fly- In Funk owners pilots and friends invited Fly-b ys factory and museum tours banquet Contact G Dale Beach 1621 Dreher Street Sacramento California 95814 o r Joe C Funk 2409 Edgevale Drive Coffeyshyville Kansas 67337

JULY 29 - AUGUST 5 - OSHKOSH WISCONSIN - 26th Ann ual EAA FlY-in Plan now - its the greatest show on eart h

AUGUST 6-12 - LAKELAND FLORIDA - International Cessna 170 Associat ion Conven tion Lakeland Florida

AUGUST 7-12 - FOND DU LAC WISCONSIN - 13th Annua l EAN lAC Internationa l Aeroba tic Championships For further informashytion conta ct Sam Maxwell 2116 Erie North Kansas City MO 64116

EAA ANTIQUECLASSIC DIVISION

MEMBERSHIP DRIVE

~~air of Antique Goggles by persuading 5 people to JOin

er A Leather Flying Helmet when you get 10 people to sign up

- then start over and win again

~A free five year membershyship in the AntiqueClassic Division if you sponsor the most new members in 1978

To Qualify Write your name and membershyship number on the back of the membershyship b lanks we ve been providing in THE VIN TA GE AIRPLAN E Headq uarters w ill keep sco re

25

1 I~rlII~llS Dear Sir

I am trying to get information on an aircraft that was built during the 20s called the Golden Eagle Chief It was a parasol wing powered by a radial engine type unshyknown Only about seven were built If any of your Antique classic division members know anything about this aircraft I would like to get in touch with them

I would like to take this opportunity to express what an outstanding organization I think the EAA is Ive only been a member for three years and only regret the years before I joined SPORT AVIATION is one of the best publications that I have ever read I have been to Oshkosh twice and to quite a few local fly-ins including Sun N Fun and have never seen anything more organized or better run I am looking forward to Oshkosh 78 and to continued membership in a fine organization

Sincerely james E Spradley (EAA 108947) PO Box 146 Rutledge Alabama 36071

Dear Mr Nielander Your editorial in the February issue of The Vinshy

tage Airplane is the best expression of the question of who is really qualified to maintain antique and classic aircraft (this applies equally well to some curshyrent aircraft such as the Bellanca Viking etc)

I submit the following recommendation as a way to offset some of the difficulties expressed in your excellent editorial to wit

The FAA should grant an A and E (or P) mechanics license to an individual who meets the following qualifications

(1) Passes three written examinations now required for the rating

(2) Passes the practical examination currently reshyquired

(3) Can show that he has actually done the major portion of the work in the restoration of an antique or classic airplane

You will note that the difference between these requirements and the current FAR part 65 requireshyments is the modification of sec 6577 which relates to on-the-job or schooling experience

From my own experience in restoring three airshyplanes (Luscombe Stinson Reliant Beechcraft B17L) I know that the amount of honest-to-God airplane and engine work in the usual restoration project is in exshycess of the stuff that the students in the approved

mechanic schools get Moreover during the 30 months practical experience referred to in FAR 6577 a lot of that time is spent just removing cowlings cleanshying sparkplugs changing tires sweeping floors pumpshying gas and plowing snow I guess what Im trying to do is build a case which shows that the antique classic restorer or homebuilder knows just as much about airplanes in general as does the individual who qualifies under the current provisions of FAR sec 6577

Very truly yours Thomas R Rench 1601 Circlewood Drive Racine Wisconsin 53402

Dear AI Perhaps I can shed a little light on the centershy

fold of the February issue of The Vintage Airplane The two planes pictured in the center of the page

are Top picture Wright Martin (Loening) M-8 Botshytom picture is an Ansaldo SVA-5 or SVA-9

The Loen ing was manufactured by the Wright Marshytin Corp and was built in 1921-1922 The factory deSignation was M-8

The Army Air Service designation was PW-2 PWshy2A and PW-2B Two of the PW-2 model were built in 1921 Gross weight was 2788 Ibs span 39 8 length 24 2 Ten of the PW-2A model were ordered by the Air Service but the order was cancelled after four were built in 1922 Gross weight was 2799 Ibs span 39 9 length 26 1

The PW2B was evaluated in 1922 but was never built Gross weight was to be 2976 Ibs span 34 1 length 23 4

PW-2 and PW-2A were powered by the Wright Martin H of 320 hp which was a Hisso built under license The PW2-B was to be powered by a 350 hp Packard engine

The Ansaldo can be either an SVA-5 or SVA-9 as the front view doesnt show whether it is a two place or single place The SVA-5 was single place while the SVA-9 was two place Both were powered by the Breda SPA-6A engine which was 6 cylinders and rated at 200 hp at 1600 rpm

I understand that there is an SVA-5 in a museum in Connecticut but I am not sure of this

Hope this information will be of some use to you Best regards H M Harkcom Harkcom Aircraft Service Rt 1 Inola Oklahoma

Dear AI In the February issue j R Nielander wrote an in shy

teresting editorial concerning the possibilities in the area of personal certification of antique aircraft by the owner restorer

Without blowing my own horn too loud I have worked with antiquers and others for the last 28 years doing what j R talks about signing off work for non-rated owners A lot of these people are really sharp and most do above average work and should be allowed to cut it on their own somehow

I think the key to this thing is for the FAA to set up a program whereby the interested antiquer could satisfy them that he is qualified to restore and mainshytain his antique This may not be as far away from FAA thinking as one might imagine as there has been talk around for some time at lower levels that the AampE ratings cover too much area for the average mechanic In other words the thinking in some areas of the FAA is that specialized ratings might be needed to have better qualified people in the field where needed If this thinking is still being kicked around in the FAA then the people in the antique field would fit into the thinking already floating around

A specialized rating for antiquers that covered about what was in old manual 18 would not be diffi shycult to qualify for I would favor two ratings along the lines of the AampP If an antiquer did not want to get into the mechanics of engines he could go after an airframe rating only If he wanted to be able to annual his antique then of course he would have to hold both tickets To satisfy the FARs and the inshysurance companies I think the antique rating apshyproach has good merit

I have talked to several antiquers not rated and they all said that they would be happy to work toshyward a limited type rating that would allow them unrestricted labor on their own aircraft They all feel that they should have this opportunity and I concur I have not always been happy to sign off work as an IA due to the fact that there is no such thing as direct supervision even if you are in the same room all the time Also I have seen the FAA just as uneasy mostly because they as a whole are far from qualified to judge most antiques

Well hope this fills a small gap in the ove rall picture If I can be of further help in any way please let me know

Sincerely Bob Younkin 55 Appleby Road Razorback Airport Fayetteville Arkansas 72701 26

Are you restoring a Classic

)(U1t dJ4 ~~

I~

Jj FINISH IT RIGHT WITH AN

4~ INTERIOR All Items Designed for Easy

DOmiddotITmiddot YOURSELF INSTALLATION

~~ CUSHION UPHOLSTERY SETS UPHOLSTERED FOAM CUSHION SETS

WALL PANEL SETS bull HEADLINERSmiddot CARPETS

Airtex interior upholstery items are all made up into complete assemblies ready for you to install Your choice of three fabric styles and twenty colors Luxurious cut pile carpets in seven colors wrinkleshyfree Duraliner headliners baggage compartshyments seat slings and fire wall covers are also available for Classic planes

RE-COVER ENVELOPES Available for all Classics and some Antique models in Ceconjte 101 102 and cotton Airtex makes the worlds finest envelopes

rodolplpound AIRCRAFT FINISHES Nitrate amp butyrate dope enamelurethane thinners reducer retarder and primers Complete stock of re-covering supplies

Send $100 for Catalog and Our Fabrics Selection Guide

(iIziea p~ Jnc DEPT R LOWER MORRISVILLE ROAD

FALLSINGTON PA 19054

(215) 295-4115

27

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1 I~rlII~llS Dear Sir

I am trying to get information on an aircraft that was built during the 20s called the Golden Eagle Chief It was a parasol wing powered by a radial engine type unshyknown Only about seven were built If any of your Antique classic division members know anything about this aircraft I would like to get in touch with them

I would like to take this opportunity to express what an outstanding organization I think the EAA is Ive only been a member for three years and only regret the years before I joined SPORT AVIATION is one of the best publications that I have ever read I have been to Oshkosh twice and to quite a few local fly-ins including Sun N Fun and have never seen anything more organized or better run I am looking forward to Oshkosh 78 and to continued membership in a fine organization

Sincerely james E Spradley (EAA 108947) PO Box 146 Rutledge Alabama 36071

Dear Mr Nielander Your editorial in the February issue of The Vinshy

tage Airplane is the best expression of the question of who is really qualified to maintain antique and classic aircraft (this applies equally well to some curshyrent aircraft such as the Bellanca Viking etc)

I submit the following recommendation as a way to offset some of the difficulties expressed in your excellent editorial to wit

The FAA should grant an A and E (or P) mechanics license to an individual who meets the following qualifications

(1) Passes three written examinations now required for the rating

(2) Passes the practical examination currently reshyquired

(3) Can show that he has actually done the major portion of the work in the restoration of an antique or classic airplane

You will note that the difference between these requirements and the current FAR part 65 requireshyments is the modification of sec 6577 which relates to on-the-job or schooling experience

From my own experience in restoring three airshyplanes (Luscombe Stinson Reliant Beechcraft B17L) I know that the amount of honest-to-God airplane and engine work in the usual restoration project is in exshycess of the stuff that the students in the approved

mechanic schools get Moreover during the 30 months practical experience referred to in FAR 6577 a lot of that time is spent just removing cowlings cleanshying sparkplugs changing tires sweeping floors pumpshying gas and plowing snow I guess what Im trying to do is build a case which shows that the antique classic restorer or homebuilder knows just as much about airplanes in general as does the individual who qualifies under the current provisions of FAR sec 6577

Very truly yours Thomas R Rench 1601 Circlewood Drive Racine Wisconsin 53402

Dear AI Perhaps I can shed a little light on the centershy

fold of the February issue of The Vintage Airplane The two planes pictured in the center of the page

are Top picture Wright Martin (Loening) M-8 Botshytom picture is an Ansaldo SVA-5 or SVA-9

The Loen ing was manufactured by the Wright Marshytin Corp and was built in 1921-1922 The factory deSignation was M-8

The Army Air Service designation was PW-2 PWshy2A and PW-2B Two of the PW-2 model were built in 1921 Gross weight was 2788 Ibs span 39 8 length 24 2 Ten of the PW-2A model were ordered by the Air Service but the order was cancelled after four were built in 1922 Gross weight was 2799 Ibs span 39 9 length 26 1

The PW2B was evaluated in 1922 but was never built Gross weight was to be 2976 Ibs span 34 1 length 23 4

PW-2 and PW-2A were powered by the Wright Martin H of 320 hp which was a Hisso built under license The PW2-B was to be powered by a 350 hp Packard engine

The Ansaldo can be either an SVA-5 or SVA-9 as the front view doesnt show whether it is a two place or single place The SVA-5 was single place while the SVA-9 was two place Both were powered by the Breda SPA-6A engine which was 6 cylinders and rated at 200 hp at 1600 rpm

I understand that there is an SVA-5 in a museum in Connecticut but I am not sure of this

Hope this information will be of some use to you Best regards H M Harkcom Harkcom Aircraft Service Rt 1 Inola Oklahoma

Dear AI In the February issue j R Nielander wrote an in shy

teresting editorial concerning the possibilities in the area of personal certification of antique aircraft by the owner restorer

Without blowing my own horn too loud I have worked with antiquers and others for the last 28 years doing what j R talks about signing off work for non-rated owners A lot of these people are really sharp and most do above average work and should be allowed to cut it on their own somehow

I think the key to this thing is for the FAA to set up a program whereby the interested antiquer could satisfy them that he is qualified to restore and mainshytain his antique This may not be as far away from FAA thinking as one might imagine as there has been talk around for some time at lower levels that the AampE ratings cover too much area for the average mechanic In other words the thinking in some areas of the FAA is that specialized ratings might be needed to have better qualified people in the field where needed If this thinking is still being kicked around in the FAA then the people in the antique field would fit into the thinking already floating around

A specialized rating for antiquers that covered about what was in old manual 18 would not be diffi shycult to qualify for I would favor two ratings along the lines of the AampP If an antiquer did not want to get into the mechanics of engines he could go after an airframe rating only If he wanted to be able to annual his antique then of course he would have to hold both tickets To satisfy the FARs and the inshysurance companies I think the antique rating apshyproach has good merit

I have talked to several antiquers not rated and they all said that they would be happy to work toshyward a limited type rating that would allow them unrestricted labor on their own aircraft They all feel that they should have this opportunity and I concur I have not always been happy to sign off work as an IA due to the fact that there is no such thing as direct supervision even if you are in the same room all the time Also I have seen the FAA just as uneasy mostly because they as a whole are far from qualified to judge most antiques

Well hope this fills a small gap in the ove rall picture If I can be of further help in any way please let me know

Sincerely Bob Younkin 55 Appleby Road Razorback Airport Fayetteville Arkansas 72701 26

Are you restoring a Classic

)(U1t dJ4 ~~

I~

Jj FINISH IT RIGHT WITH AN

4~ INTERIOR All Items Designed for Easy

DOmiddotITmiddot YOURSELF INSTALLATION

~~ CUSHION UPHOLSTERY SETS UPHOLSTERED FOAM CUSHION SETS

WALL PANEL SETS bull HEADLINERSmiddot CARPETS

Airtex interior upholstery items are all made up into complete assemblies ready for you to install Your choice of three fabric styles and twenty colors Luxurious cut pile carpets in seven colors wrinkleshyfree Duraliner headliners baggage compartshyments seat slings and fire wall covers are also available for Classic planes

RE-COVER ENVELOPES Available for all Classics and some Antique models in Ceconjte 101 102 and cotton Airtex makes the worlds finest envelopes

rodolplpound AIRCRAFT FINISHES Nitrate amp butyrate dope enamelurethane thinners reducer retarder and primers Complete stock of re-covering supplies

Send $100 for Catalog and Our Fabrics Selection Guide

(iIziea p~ Jnc DEPT R LOWER MORRISVILLE ROAD

FALLSINGTON PA 19054

(215) 295-4115

27

Page 26: Vintage Airplane - Jun 1978

Are you restoring a Classic

)(U1t dJ4 ~~

I~

Jj FINISH IT RIGHT WITH AN

4~ INTERIOR All Items Designed for Easy

DOmiddotITmiddot YOURSELF INSTALLATION

~~ CUSHION UPHOLSTERY SETS UPHOLSTERED FOAM CUSHION SETS

WALL PANEL SETS bull HEADLINERSmiddot CARPETS

Airtex interior upholstery items are all made up into complete assemblies ready for you to install Your choice of three fabric styles and twenty colors Luxurious cut pile carpets in seven colors wrinkleshyfree Duraliner headliners baggage compartshyments seat slings and fire wall covers are also available for Classic planes

RE-COVER ENVELOPES Available for all Classics and some Antique models in Ceconjte 101 102 and cotton Airtex makes the worlds finest envelopes

rodolplpound AIRCRAFT FINISHES Nitrate amp butyrate dope enamelurethane thinners reducer retarder and primers Complete stock of re-covering supplies

Send $100 for Catalog and Our Fabrics Selection Guide

(iIziea p~ Jnc DEPT R LOWER MORRISVILLE ROAD

FALLSINGTON PA 19054

(215) 295-4115

27

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