WALTHAM FOREST HOT FOOD TAKEAWAY SHOPS SPD – CONSULTATION DRAFT
SCHEDULE OF REPRESENTATIONS AND COUNCIL’S RESPONSE PART 1: Schedule of full representations PART 2: Detailed Response to McDonalds Submission
PART 1: Schedule of full representations
Schedule of Responses to Hot Food Takeaway Shops SPD Consultation (20 October 2008 - 8 December 2008)
Name/
Organisation
Section/
Paragraph
Individual
/Organisation
Comments Received Council Officer Response Proposed changes to
document
Gary Grange
JP
Section 4.3 Individual Their should be a restriction on opening hours
and no Fast Food takeaway should be open past
midnight unless the food is consumed on the
premises
Section 4.30 indicates that opening
hours are likely to be restricted to
08.00 and midnight.
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Tim Baker Section 4.5 Individual I am in strong agreement with the proposed new
Hot Food Takeaway policy, particularly the 400M
exclusion zone from schools and parks.
Para 4.50 below caused me some concern,
however.
4.50
inadequate size to provide storage space for
commercial waste products within the
building. Often this leads to the permanent location
of waste containers outside the
premises, sometimes even on the highway. This is
not considered an acceptable
practice and will not be encouraged.
This strikes me as an enforcement issue which
could be addressed within existing frameworks.
The consultation document doesn't mention Trade
Waste agreements. It would be good if LBWF
could be assured that every license holder has a
current trade waste agreement.
Many thanks
Tim Baker
The SPD incorporates these
requirements to make it clear that
disposal of waste products is a key
consideration in the process for
obtaining planning permission and
provides clarity that unless suitable
management procedures can be
demonstrated planning permission
will not be granted.
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more taina e comm nit an
hot food sources ithin a reasona e
cons t tion e o t e ch con
Gary Grange
JP
General Individual The LA should recognise it's responsibility to
ensure a sustainable community and sustainable
shops.
Council's Sustainable Community
Strategy demonstrates its
commitment to the creation of a
sus bl u y d the
SPD is seeking to meet the following
key objectives of the strategy, i)
create more wealth and opportunity
for all residents and ii) Retain more
wealth in the borough.
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Gary Grange
JP
General Individual My conclusions are therefore that the Local
Authority should: Give due consideration to the
benefits of hot food takeaways over the wider
needs of the community.ie Does this Fast food
takeaway fit into the current enviroment,is it
required or are there already enough eating
places,can people already access fast food within a
reasonable distance.
Encouraging healthier lifestyles is
considered a greater priority for the
Council in the pursuit of a more
Sustainable Community and It is felt
that there are already sufficient
numbers of such establishments to
continue to meet this need for cheap
w bl
distance.
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George Arkless General Individual 1. I cannot access the consultation regarding
takeaways despite requesting and using my
username and password.
2. It does not really matter because I wish to
place on record my deep concern that a
consultation that was due to run until December
has already been pre-empted by the public
statements of the leader of the council on TV on
22/10/08
3. By what process can the leader be censored
for his premature announcements? Alternatively
how can he be censored for wasting our money on
a pointless consultation?
Noted. As evidenced by this
ul a r p r a sultation
response is considered and
subsequent amendements made
where appropriate. The SPD will
follow the due process for adoption
through Cabinet.
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y p y o
e s ri g a well ala e i of s
Richard
Woodburn
General Individual As a resident of Leyton for over ten years, I am
pleased to see that finally Waltham forest borough
council has seized the initiative to implement
guidelines on what can only be seen as the
monopoly of takeaways and fast food restaurants
cluttering the high street. It beggars belief that so
many shops could actually be granted lincenses to
open these establishments in such a small area. If
you take the Bakers arms for instance there must
be several chicken shops, two chinese takeaways,
kebabs', greek restaurant, Subways, 4 cafes, off
licenses and pubs. God help me if I wanted to buy
decent clothes!!!
This proposal is long over due, and I for one would
be first in line to stop further takeaways opening
without proper consultation.
I would actually go further and have a look at the
impact of the social decline certain shops bring to
the area. Take a walk passed leyton green and see
the haberdasheries and the endless amount of
cafe's which only cater for a certain demographic o
the population of leyton, alienating a large majority
of the residence. Man of these laces are an e es
Support noted. Further to the SPD,
the LDF will propose strategies for
n u n b nc d m x u es
and community infrastructure is
provided throughout the Borough.
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that are a a lable t s reall welcome that the bo
Mr Virdi General Individual As a resident of Pearl Road, Walthamstow for over
27 years I would welcome much tighter rules
regarding planning applications for takeaways. Th
proposals mentioned on the webpage ...
(http://www.walthamforest.gov.uk/index/environme
nt/envpl-page1/planning-policy/planning-
consultations.htm) ... seem ideal. I hope they go
through and are enforced properly.
This will help increase the social capital and sense
of community within Waltham Forest - an area with
great potential.
Best regards,
Mr Virdi
Support noted, your feedback
provides essential support for the
policy and re-emphasises the
importance of the measures
proposed.
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Tricia Handley General Individual As a son of a teenager who attends a local school
I am aware of the draw of these very cheap
outlets. It is exactly the sort of unhealthly food I try
to educate my children about. The number has
continually appeared to increase and this hugely
increases the chance of developing and maintaing
poor eating habits leading to obesity. It also
undoubtedly increases the litter especially around
Leytonstone. We have a number of lovely cafes in
Leytonstone where people have a wide choice of
good food; which also support the really important
social aspect to eating. We not only need no more
fast food outlets, we need to reduce the number
v i . I i y ro'
is doing something about it.
Tricia Handley
Support noted, your feedback
provides essential support for the
policy and re-emphasises the
importance of the measures
proposed.
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Gerald Floyd General Individual As a Waltham Forest resident I am very pleased
with these new proposed restrictions on fast food
planning applications and restrictions on opening
hours.
I am amazed at the amount of fast food outlets in
the borough and I know that the primary objective
for the council is the health of the local children,
however I am more concerned with the litter and
anti social behavior these outlets create.
Looking forward to a cleaner and more social
Waltham Forest
Support noted, your feedback
provides essential support for the
policy and re-emphasises the
importance of the measures
proposed. The Hot Food Takeaways
Corporate Steering Group are
developing strategies for the
enhanced management of existing
HFT's within the Borough.
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D Sculthorp General Individual Basically I feel there are too may take-away shops
and feel that planning applications should be
tightened up or at least some time of strict
monitoring
Support noted, your feedback
provides essential support for the
policy and re-emphasises the
importance of the measures
ro osed.
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Catherine
Grant
General Public Health
Programme
Manager
NHS Waltham
Forest
Dear Colleague,
Re: Support for the proposal to tighten the rules on
all planning applications for new hot food
takeaways to:
o prevent high concentrations and clusters of
takeaways
o prevent them locating near schools, youth
facilities, parks and residential properties
o resist proposals that would cause an
unacceptable risk of crime and antisocial behaviour
o ensure they don't have an unacceptable
impact on road safety
o ensure they have good systems in place to
deal with smells and waste
o ensure they provide litter bins
o ensure they are accessible for all, especially
wheelchair users
England faces a growing epidemic of obesity that
threatens the health of our children and the
prospects for their future to grow up in to healthy
adults. This is a particular worry for Waltham
Forest with latest data showing obesity amongst
our local boys and girls aged 10-11 years was
higher than the national estimates, and higher than
the prevalence of obesity in Waltham Forest
Support noted. The statistics
outlined provide further support for
the policy.
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Sam Piyasena General Individual Dear Madam/Sir,
We are writing to express our wholehearted
support for the Waltham Forest proposals to tighten
the rules for planning applications for hot food
takeaways. We strongly believe that these
measures will have a positive long term impact on
our environment and the health of our children.
There has been a proliferation of junk food
establishments on Leytonstone High Road and so i
is imperative that the Council take action now.
The escalation in numbers of these takeaways is
especially a great concern for those of us who have
children. It is incredibly depressing to see hordes
of school children spending their lunch money on
this junk and even more depressing to see half-
eaten chicken boxes strewn over our pavements.
P g ld l d te
children within the school environment about the
health implications of eating this junk every day?
We think that this is a really progressive policy and
are incredibly proud of our council for making a
stand.
Support noted. The HFT's Corporate
Steering Group is developing
a f a a a proach
to tackling the wider issues
associated with HFT's which may
incorporate health and food
education programs. There are a
number of Council directorates,
Schools, and organisations
(PCT/NHS) that already implement
such programs, efforts will be made
to establish the scope for
incorporating specific education on
the health implications of
consumption of fast food.
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Stefan Harakis General Individual Dear Sir/Madam
I agree that planning applications for hot food
takeaways in Waltham Forest should be managed
to:
1) Prevent high concentrations and clusters of
takeaways.
2) Prevent them locating near schools, youth
facilities, parks and residential properties.
3) Resist proposals that would cause an
unacceptable risk of crime and antisocial
behaviour.
4) Ensure they don't have an unacceptable impact
on road safety.
5) Ensure they have good systems in place to deal
with smells and waste.
Support noted, your feedback
provides essential support for the
policy and re-emphasises the
importance of the measures
proposed.
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Jack Winkler General London
Metropolitan
University
Dear Waltham Forest,
Congratulations for taking the initiative to limit the
number of hot food takeaways in your borough.
And congratulations too for the care you have
taken in preparing the legal groundwork for such a
restriction. It was an education to read your two
papers on the subject.
The measures you are proposing would make a
substantial contribution to improving
schoolchildren's diets. I write that on the basis of
research Sarah Sinclair and I have recently
completed on "The School Fringe: what secondary
school pupils buy and eat from the shops around
their schools". This was the first serious research
ever done in the UK on the School Fringe. Among
its findings were:
-- Hot food takeaways contribute to the high fat
diet of schoolchildren, and hence to their obesity.
The food
schoolchildren buy from nearby hot food
takeaways contains 46% fat.
-- All hot food takeaways offer child-size
portions and child-size prices to local
Support noted. The research papers
outlined provide valuable support for
the policy.
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Jack Winkler General London
Metropolitan
University
Dear Waltham Forest,
The Supplementary Planning Document you have
produced on Hot Food Take Away Shops is a
service to the nation. I hope you will adopt it, act
on it, advertise it and inspire other councils to
follow Waltham Forest's lead.
The document has brought together in one
convenient place all you need to know about using
planning controls to control the profusion of
takeaways near schools and other sensitive sites.
You have created a template for other councils to
follow, which many want to do.
Therefore, I hope you will not just proceed to make
use of your powers in your own borough. I hope
you will communicate the availability of this
document widely, to speed practical action by other
councils too.
Or, you might even get the Department of Health
and the Department for Children, Schools and
Families to do this dissemination for you. I know
from a recent conference, where I shared the
platform with the Secretary of State at the DCSF,
that Ed Balls thinks highly of what Waltham Forest
Support noted. The research papers
outlined provide valuable support for
the policy.
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of people hanging aroun late in the evening man
the of
see s to ensure ste produ ts
Sarah Buddle General Individual Good morning,
i have to say that im delighted that waltham forest
is asking an interest in the environment.
We live in the leucha road area. At the top of this
road are a few take away and a local shop.
Between them the amount of rubbish is becoming
intolerable. The side near to the shop, constantly
has fast food containers many bags of rubbish and
is used to dump any old rubbish - its is discussing.
This summer the smell at times was nauseating.
The rubbish is not the only problem. The junction
is constantly blocked from customers parking on
the two corners and along the top of the road
making the road sometimes impassable. We also
suffer from unsociable behaviour from the groups
d , y
of them with pets which are now fouling our streets.
I feel strongly that our community and environment
are being damaged by this particular group of
business and the amount of money it is costing us
to constantly clear away constant pile
Support noted. Proposed Test HFT8
- k wa c will
be dealt with in an appropriate
manner in the future.
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Gordon Bentley General Individual Having just read the latest issue of wfm, I was very
encouraged to read about Council action to curb
and control the number of fast food takeaways in
the borough. Consultation has little point unless it
can be seen to influence the policy making
process. So I do hope you will listen to what local
residents say, and act on what they most want
done about a problem that has been in the making
for years.
Support noted. As demonstrated by
this report, each consultation
response is reviewed and
considered in the further
development of the document.
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shops, iro mo ers, pict re framers etc a d
Fenella Watts General Individual Having moved this year from Haringey to
Walthamstow, this is obviously a problem that
affects many areas of London and it is amazing
that you are proposing to do something to limit the
number of fast food restaurants in the borough. I
am 100% in favour of your proposals and have
always felt sad that there is not enough variety of
shops on our high streets anymore. We need more
book shops, art galleries, craft and hobby centres,
toy shops, florists, record shops, homewares
n ng u n far far
far less fried chicken and kebab shops. And we
probably have enough pound shops too!!!
Not only do they dominate our high streets, they
also contribute to the majority of rubbish on our
streets. They encourage an unhealthy diet - and I
am definitely in favour of these shops not being
near to schools. Good luck with your campaign
Support noted, your feedback
provides essential support for the
policy and re-emphasises the
importance of the measures
proposed.
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Wendy Coley General Individual Hi,
I agree with questions 1-5 in the questionnaire-hot
food.
I think with regards to a healthy population there
are other factors involved.
In the past councils have allowed hot food outlets
to increase in boroughs while competitive sports in
schools and funding to youth clubs decreased,
leaving many young people without regular access
to sports and positive group activities.
Also, cooking healthy food in school for was a
positive way for children to learn about healthy
eating. I used to go home and tell my mum about
good fats/bad fats and encourage her to buy
polyunsaturated oil, etc. This was a result of
regular home economics classes.
I live in Second Ave, E17, near many hot food
outlets and litter is a problem.
Many drivers park in the half hours bays in Second
Ave, buy & consume hot food then throw the
rubbish out of their cars and drive off. The litter is a
nuisance and health hazard.
Council have recently established a
HFT Steering Group which pulls
together Officers from across the
Council, including planning,
regeneration, housing, policy and
performance, trading standards,
environmental health, legal,
enforcement, children’s services,
climate change and green spaces.
This Group is looking at how officers
from various departments across the
Council can act to ensure that
existing Hot Food Takeaway
businesses operate as responsibly
as possible. As well as utilising all
the options already available to us,
the Group will also consider new,
innovative ways of tackling the
broader issues raised by too many
takeaways. These suggestions will
be considered and presented to the
group.
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Mary Little General Individual I agree that planning applications for hot food
takeaways in waltham Frorest should be managed
to:
prevent high concentrations and clusters of
takeaways,
prevent them locating near schools, youth facilities,
parks and residential properties,
resist proposals that would cause an unacceptable
risk of crime and antisocial behaviour,
ensure they don’t have an unacceptable impact on
road safety,
ensure they have good systems in place to deal
with smells and waste,
ensure they provide litter bins,
ensure they are accessible for all, especially
wheelchair users.
Mary Little
Support noted, your feedback
provides essential support for the
policy and re-emphasises the
importance of the measures
proposed.
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Sally Medcalf General Better
Neighbourhoods
Initiative Project
Support Officer
(LBWF)
I agree with the proposal that the number of
takeaway shops in the borough should be
managed.
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g
Chris
macdonald.
General Individual I do hope that I am not in the minority, I support
the councils proposals 100% I live in Leyton and
there are ten take away's and fast food outlets
Between Leyton Town Hall and the Lion and key
public house along Leyton high road, approximatel
three quarters of a mile. I live in walnut road
Leyton ,we have a chicken shop on the corner. We
get groups of lads hanging around, they may not
cause any trouble, but it is very intimidating
For someone like myself in a wheelchair, Also it
would be nice to get the odd day without a take
away menu through the letterbox , yesterday I had
four. GOOD LUCK.
Support noted, your feedback
provides essential support for the
policy and re-emphasises the
importance of the measures
proposed.
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Beth Hamer General BBC I fully support the council's plans to limit the
number of fast food outlets in Waltham Forest,
however I feel that the proposals to help prevent
litter do not go far enough.
I would like fast food outlets to be made more
responsible for litter dropped by their customers,
but simply providing a bin outside the shop does
not really help as in my experience many people
(particularly school children) buy their food and
then eat it walking along the street, so the
Wrappers are often discarded several streets
away. For instance, my walk to & from the tube
station takes me past Texas Fried Chicken on Hoe
Street, however their distinctive branded wrappers
are dropped on Hatherley Road, Jewel Road,
Forest Road and beyond. These are only the
streets I see myself but I'm sure the problem is
more widespread.
Whilst I realise that the litter dropped by their
customers isn't directly the fault of the fast food
shops, they do have to take some responsibility for
it. I would suggest that either their business rates
are increased to allow for extra street cleanin in & a
Council are currently investigating
options available to ensure greater
responsibility for litter for individual
businesses.
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Kathy Webb General Individual I have only one issue that I would like to raise; and
that concerns the litter created by hot food
takeaway shops. Maybe there needs to be a
distinction between shops that produce large
amounts of litter (cardboard boxes, chicken bones
etc), mainly Fried Chicken takeaways/ Kebabs/
Pizzas, and Indian/Chinese takeaways that sell
food that is mainly eaten at home.
The former are responsible for a lot of problems,
while the latter provide a service.
This document responds to evidence
of an increasing number of Hot Food
Takeaway Shops (A5 use type)
across the borough, the cumulative
effect of which has resulted in the
need for policy intervention to ensure
a balanced mix of uses are
maintained. The SPD is places
restrictions on a particular Use
Class, A5 and does not provide
distinction of different types of A5 as
there is limited reasonable
justification for this and has potential
to be considered
favouring/disadvantaging particular
types of A5 uses. Council consider
that issues of effective litter control
should be addressed in all use types
and across the Borough, the SPD
proposes greater responsibility for
proprietors to keep the area in front
of their premises clean.
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Sue Higgins General Individual I was very interested to read about possible plans
to limit the number of fast food outlets in the
borough. Whilst I can see many people getting
upset about this, I think it is a good idea. I love a
nice takeaway every once in a while, but there
should be more to life...Maybe this initiative could
go hand in hand with some kind of imaginative and
creative promotion of healthy food and cooking.
Perhaps a building could be ear marked as a
possible 'Food Centre' as seen on Jamie Olivers
Ministry of Food? Or similar projects or workshops
could be set up, maybe even for parents and kids
to do together? A Saturday morning lunch club or
something...
One other advantage is that it might cut down on
the endless stream of pizza and takeway flyers that
come through my door, and go straight into the
recycling bin!
Council have recently established a
HFT Steering Group which pulls
together Officers from across the
Council, including planning,
regeneration, housing, policy and
performance, trading standards,
environmental health, legal,
enforcement, children’s services,
climate change and green spaces.
This Group is looking at how officers
from various departments across the
Council can act to ensure that
existing Hot Food Takeaway
businesses operate as responsibly
as possible. As well as utilising all
the options already available to us,
the Group will also consider new,
innovative ways of tackling the
broader issues raised by too many
takeaways. This suggestion will be
considered and presented to the
group.
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school canteens compete with this watch chi
it needs
Linda Sloan General Individual I was very pleased to see that Waltham Forest is
considering limiting the number of hot food
takeaways. If as a country we are to tackle obesity,
then this is one of the key steps that this borough
needs to take & hopefully lead the way. Chicken &
chips for £1 bought by groups of school children on
way home or during lunch, how can parents &
. I ldren
come out of school buy chicken & chips & get on
bus for 1-2 stops because travel is free. Why would
our children not be obese ?. Children are doing
less sport at school, less playing out in the
community & have free travel on buses so rarely
walk anywhere, parents even drive them to school.
On top of this the rest of the community have to put
up with the litter from the takeaways & the ASB
especially late evenings & nightime. Walk along
Hoe Street, how many fried chicken shops does
one street need ?. If this borough is going to
prosper it needs to draw in people from other parts
of London. This means more cafes,
Support noted, the proposals within
the SPD seek to ameliorate the
concerns raised and the LDF will put
in place strategies for enhancing the
vitality and vibrancy of town centres
and retail areas involving greater
diversity of offerings.
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Claire Tyler General Individual I wholly agree with the council's proposals to
tighten the rules for planning applications for hot
food takeaways in the borough. My main concern is
for the health and welfare of the children who use
them for for the litter that they (the outlets) cause.
Support noted, your feedback
provides essential support for the
policy and re-emphasises the
importance of the measures
proposed.
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clearl s ows t at local resi ents a
of their ives so e are respon ing t
Msra North General Individual My opinion? Well, if the the takeaway shops are
complying with all current and relevant regulations,
then what is the problem? They are not taking jobs
away from council officers, on the contrary, they
are creating jobs and affordable food in a climate
where it everything is expensive. And anyway, who
are the selfish killjoys who want the takeaways
taken away? Probably about 9 or 10 in number,
they don't speak for the rest of us.
KEEP THEM, I say, and don't make life
unnecessarily difficult for them!
The nature of takeaways is that they
often have a tendency to create a
number of related problems for local
people (litter, noise, smell, poor food
options, anti-social behaviour,
parking issues etc). Consultation on
the SCS and through the LDF (as
well as complaints to Councillors )
y h h d re
concerned at the impact takeaways
are having on a number of aspects
l w d o
their demands as best we can as a
local authority.
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Janie General Individual We are writing concerning takeaways and we are
saying that you should leave the takeaways alone
so we can have somewhere to eat to hang out
without disturbing anybody.
The SPD does not propose to close
down any existing shops therefore
will have little impact on existing
access Hot Food Takeaways in the
Borough. Council is also seeking
through the LDF to encourage
further youth recreational and
entertainment facilities in the
Borough, which will provide further
recreational opportunities
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M F Tomkins General Individual While I fully endorse the idea of limiting the
proliferation of these types of commercial premises
I feel that the Council should be criticised for its
policies (or lack of them) in past years that have
allowed the present situation to exist
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Andy Stone General Head Master
and Individual
Writing as the Headteacher of Holy Family
Technology College on Shernhall Street I would
fully support the council in seeking to limit the
number of takeaway food shops. Their location
near schools means too many youngters spend
money on unhealthy food. We do not let students
out of school at lunchtime other than oour sixth
formers (who do tend to patronise these
establishments, but we find other students will
avoid eating at school to save their money to sepnd
at the 'chicken shop' on their way home at 3.30pm.
Speaking as a private citizen the proliferation of
these takeways does nothing to help Waltham
Forest acheive its aim of ensuring more wealth is
retianed in the borough which is one of the
council's strategic aims. Rightly or wrongly the
more affluent in society will not choose to live in
communities whose high streets are dominated by
such establishments. They do nothing for the
image of the borough and contibute to litter and
nuisance. I hope this is helpful.
Support noted, your feedback
provides essential support for the
policy and re-emphasises the
importance of the measures
proposed.
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Geraldine
Sullivan
General Individual You said you would like feedback about the above
and I am so glad you
asked because it is something I feel very strongly
about. So strongly
I was going to move out of this borough to
woodford green because of
the glut of cheap takeaways.
No 1. It cheapens the area and makes it look like
all we have in
this area is people who want to eat pizza and
kentucky fried chicken
only. (Not very bright or well educated people).
Our area is
gradually getting a reputation for being a very very
cheap part of
town and thats not a compliment.
No 2. The people who do eat at these places
leave all their old
wrappings and boxes all over the place. I get on
the train at St
James street where you have given planning
permission for many fast
food places. On the platform I have to go round
and put all the old
boxes and food in the bin. Also it is scattered all
Support noted, your feedback
provides essential support for the
policy and re-emphasises the
importance of the measures
proposed.
No Change
Gary Grange
JP
General Individual 2) if we can do this how many and what type of hot
food takeaways should there be to ensure that
these outlets can be sustainable .
The Core Strategy will provide policy
guidance on maintaining an
appropriate balance of uses to
ensure the ongoing vitality and
viability of town centres and key
retail strips taking into consideration
issues relating to the ongoing
environmental, social and economic
sustainability of the Borough.
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Gary Grange
JP
General Individual A fact finding trip to the West Coast of America will
show that it is possible to encourage children to
eat healthier foods if the environments that this
food is sold in also offers a social scene
Council's Hot Food Takeaways
Corporate Steering Group will
consider new, innovative ways of
tackling the wider issues which may
include food and health education
programs. Council will endeavour to
review best practice examples
where ossible.
No Change
Kathy Webb General Individual Also, what will happen to existing shops? Will their
licences be withdrawn when the licences come up
for renewal, or change of ownership?
Please keep me informed of the results of the
consultation.
The Council's recently established
Hot Food Takeaway Shops
Corporate Steering Group are in the
process of developing strategies for
h m m x
shops.
No Change
Gary Grange
JP
General Individual An embargo on all new applications on hot food
takeaways until this consultation is complete.
Itcould be argued that the LA could reduce peoples
need for fast food by removing the source.
As above. No Change
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Charlie Knight General Individual As a resident of Highams park, I am delighted to
here that waltham forest are taking a stand on this
issue. Not only are the establistments bad for for
health they are an usightly blight on the high st,
Kebabs as far as the eye can see does not fill me
the want to go and use my local high st it makes
me avoid it!
Bring back the local butcher, grocer, and the shop
you can buy anything in! Get our communitys back!
Offer rates incentives to get them going again.
The break down in society starts with our throw
away mentality. Good on you but dont just stop
here make an example a good one of this area
dont let it slide any more. The next step can only b
more depressing if? we dont do something.
I am tired of writing letters that get ignored to I hop
this email counts.
Support noted, your feedback
provides essential support for the
policy and re-emphasises the
importance of the measures
proposed.
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Pauline Burrell. General Individual AT LAST the council realises that there are too
many fast food oulets in Waltham Forest and
throughout London.
I am 40 yrs old and I teach Dance and Fitness for a
living. Councils have been killing the younger
generation by allowing all these fast food outlets to
open. MOST OF THESE OUTLETS MUST
CLOSE if we want Britain to survive in the future.
The food being sold in these places is poison.
Cheap cuts of meat (if it can be called meat)
cooked in dirty rat and cocroach invested
conditions, and the food it self is high fat
unnutritional rubbish. I am shocked that the council
have allowed these places to stay open for so long.
Every second shop along the high streets of
Waltham Forest is a chicken & chip,keebab,
burger, fish & chip, Indian, chinease, It's all
GREASE. The worst ones are those chicken &
chips, burger and keebab shops. They have to go.
The kids and adults too are getting more and more
obese. So please,please,please the council must
close some of these places down.
Support noted. Council's food safety
team conduct regular inspections of
all food premises within the Borough
and as part of the HFT's Steering
Group are considering options for
further monitoring of HFT's in
response to complaints such as this.
No Change
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develo ent and rovide invest
sustainability of the Borough
Gordon Bentley General Individual But I do want to raise one question for you to
consider. From a small business point of view why
are the shops in a local area closing down with fast
food takeaways replacing them ? The answer is a
simple one of financial viability. Fast Food
takeaways have low staffing costs, and high profit
margins to make them an attractive investment.
This makes them capable of affording the level of
business rates set by LBWF. Whilst other more
arguably needed shops close due to sales turnover
not being sufficient after business rates and rent
have been taken into account.
To mitigate any potential negative
effects of the policy Council have
adopted a partnership approach to
facilitating practical solutions by
establishing a Hot Food Takeaway
Shops Corporate Steering Group.
The group links with the relevant
departments involved in economic
development to ensure options are
investigated to encourage skills
pm p ment
opportunities in alternative
appropriate shops and services.
Further to this, the Core Strategy will
provide policy guidance on
developing and maintaining an
appropriate balance of uses to
ensure the ongoing vitality and
viability of town centres and key
retail strips taking into consideration
issues relating to the ongoing
environmental, social and economic
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Gemma
Woolrych +
Steve Brown
General Individual Chicken' takeaways are also much more numerous
than other types of food outlet. With this in mind, it
might be fairer to differentiate between types of
takeaway eg not allow another shop of the same
kind within a certain distance. This means that
residents could still get a choice of
food - I don't think people would mind so much if a
parade of shops had one Indian, Chinese and
Chicken takeaway.
Also, I don't know what the council can do about
existing areas where there are too many
takeaways?
The SPD proposes for manage the
further proliferation of A5 use types
on the basis of maintaining vitality
and viability of centres and retail
diversity and does not provide
differentiation between different
types of A5 uses to avoid being
discriminitory against particular
types. Council have
recently established a HFT Steering
Group which pulls together Officers
from across the Council, including
planning, regeneration, housing,
policy and performance, trading
standards, environmental health,
legal, enforcement, children’s
services, climate change and green
p . T G oup ook ow
officers from various departments
across the Council can act to ensure
that existing Hot Food Takeaway
businesses operate as responsibly
as possible.
No Change
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Dr Durka
Dougall
General Public Health
Programme
Manager,
Waltham Forest
PCT
Dear Colleague
I am writing to confirm that I fully support the
council proposals to tighten the rules on all
planning applications for new hot food takeaways
to:
o prevent high concentrations and clusters of
takeaways
o prevent them locating near schools, youth
facilities, parks and residential properties
o resist proposals that would cause an
unacceptable risk of crime and antisocial behaviour
o ensure they don't have an unacceptable
impact on road safety
o ensure they have good systems in place to
deal with smells and waste
o ensure they provide litter bins
o ensure they are accessible for all, especially
wheelchair users
This is a great idea and has been raised on several
occasions as a risk factor for the health of our local
population.
With best wishes
Durka
Support noted, your feedback
provides essential support for the
policy and re-emphasises the
importance of the measures
proposed.
No Change
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on entrations and l sters of takeaways o prev
ha e ood systems in place to deal ith smells an
e
e
y
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Mrs Vickie
Bevan
General Food in Schools
Programme
Manager VT
Education and
Skills
Dear Sir / Madam I am in favour of the proposal to
tighten the rules on all planning applications for
new hot food takeaways to help: o prevent high
c c c u ent
them locating near schools youth facilities parks
and residential properties o resist proposals that
would cause an unacceptable risk of crime and
antisocial behaviour o ensure they don't have an
unacceptable impact on road safety o ensure they
v g w d
waste o ensure they provide litter bins o ensure
they are accessible for all especially wheelchair
users The high concentration of fast food
takeaways in the borough goes against much of th
work the council Waltham Forest NHS and partner
organisations are involved in to improve the health
of the population. They contribute to the promotion
of an obesogenic environment in the borough
which is concerneing bearing in mind that Waltham
Forest has the 7th highest levels of obesity
amongst Year 6 pupils in London (2007 NCMP). In
order to reverse this trend we need to make healthi
Support noted. Council have recentl
established a HFT Steering Group
which pulls together Officers from
across the Council, including
planning, regeneration, housing,
policy and performance, trading
standards, environmental health,
legal, enforcement, children’s
services, climate change and green
p . T G oup ook ow
officers from various departments
across the Council can act to ensure
that existing Hot Food Takeaway
businesses operate as responsibly
as possible. As well as utilising all
the options already available to us,
the Group will also consider new,
innovative ways of tackling the
broader issues raised by too many
takeaways. These suggestions will
be considered and presented to the
group.
No Change
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Rachel Maan General NHS - Public
Health
Programme
Manager
Dear Sir/ Madam,
RE: DRAFT SUPPLEMENTARY PLANNING
DOCUMENT - HOT FOOD TAKEAWAY SHOPS.
I would like to offer support on behalf of NHS
Waltham Forest for the proposals set out in the
draft Supplementary Planning Document for hot
food takeaways. The measures set out are not
only likely to improve the health of our local
population but send out a clear message to
residents of the importance of healthy eating. This
is an important step and one that is welcomed by
NHS Waltham Forest.
As stated in your planning document, levels of
childhood obesity are higher in Waltham Forest
compared to London and England. Results from
the National Child Measurement Programme for
2006/07 indicated a prevalence of obesity of 12.2%
in 4-5 year olds and 23.1% in 10-11 year olds. Thi
compared to 9.9% and 17.5% respectively for
England and 11.3% and 20.8% respectively for
London. The 2007/08 programme showed an
increase in overall obesity for Waltham Forest,
particularly in the 10-11 year old age group.
Support noted. The statistics
outlined provide further support for
the policy.
Incorporate key statistics into
document.
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Teresa
Deacon,
General Individual E-mail:I would like to add my support to the
campaign to limit the number of takeaways in the
Borough for all the reasons you have set out. The
planning rulings should surely be tightened if these
numbers have already been allowed to set up in
the area.
Everyone enjoys the occasional good takeaway but
there should be a limit on the number allowed to
operate in areas. I never understand how they can
all make a living anyway when they are usually
seen to be empty.
I am also concerned about levels of health and
safety, not to mention the standard of animal
welfare in the sourcing of their 'cheap' meats.
Thank you for pursuing this issue - I would imagine
the majority of residents Waltham Forest would like
to see less of them.
Questionnaire Comments: You can't blame
takeaways for opening up where othere shops
close down so planning regs need to be tightened.
How about encouraging non-takeaways to return
with incentives - council tax reductions? Our high
streets are a sorry sight indeed.....
Support noted. Council have recentl
established a HFT Steering Group
which pulls together Officers from
across the Council, including
planning, regeneration, housing,
policy and performance, trading
standards, environmental health,
legal, enforcement, children’s
services, climate change and green
p . T G oup ook ow
officers from various departments
across the Council can act to ensure
that existing Hot Food Takeaway
businesses operate as responsibly
as possible. As well as utilising all
the options already available to us,
the Group will also consider new,
innovative ways of tackling the
broader issues raised by too many
takeaways. These suggestions will
be considered and presented to the
group.
No Change
Gary Grange
JP
General Individual Finally,as a Waltham Forest Magistrate I would
be happy to sit on any forum on this issue if so
required or needed
Noted No Change
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Gary Grange
JP
General Individual Firstly I would like to congratulate LB of Waltham
Forest and Council Leader Clyde Loakes for
beginning to address the issues associated with th
high number of takeaway outlets that we have in
our borough. It has long been a concern for me
and I would like to outline why using the
key headings:
Appropriate concentrations of hot food takeaway
establishments
It has long been obvious that the high
concentration of hot food takeaways in Waltham
Forest has created,in my view,the following
problems:
- Excessive competition in this area lowering
the potential for sustainable business who wish
or would like to provide high quality food.
Because of the high number of hot food outlets
(takeaway's) built up in quite defined areas
there is not enough business to go
around.Therefore,the owners of these
businesses generally tend to source poor quality
businesses we see a high turnover of Hot food o
other businesses) High levels of litter in the surr
Other potential businesses being "put off" from
Support noted. The concerns raised
were key factors in the development
of the SPD.
No Change
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Mrs Anne
Haidar
General Individual Good morning,
Can you please add my responses to the Hot Food
consultation questionaire :
1. Prevent high concentrations and clusters of
takeaways?
AGREE
2. Prevent them locating near shcools, youth
facilities, parks and residential properties?
AGREE
3. Resist proposals that would cause an
unacceptable risk of crime and antisocial
behaviour?
AGREE
4. Ensure they don't have an unacceptable impact
on road safety?
AGREE
5. Ensure they have good systems in place to deal
with smell and waste?
AGREE
General comments:-
Support noted, your feedback
provides essential support for the
policy and re-emphasises the
importance of the measures
proposed.
No Change
Janice
Gariazzo
General Individual I agree that while the goverment and local council
appear to be concerned about our childrens health
fast food outlets seems to be appearing at faster
rate than any other retail business. There is a high
volumne of these outlets around the Highams Park
area which attract the children from the senior
school who gather around at break times and
cause congestion on the streets. The easy
availability does not encourage parents or their
children to cook at home.
Support noted, your feedback
provides essential support for the
policy and re-emphasises the
importance of the measures
proposed.
No Change
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Casandra
Britten
General Individual I am broadly supportive of the proposals, especially
keeping fast food away from schools.
I would like to add though that on the appendix
matrix I disagree that there would be no effect on
point 9, reduction of waste and recycling. A
reduction in the number of hot food outlets would
have a significant effect on the amount of paper
wasted as door to door leafleting for these outlets.
We get a huge amount of this (20plus leaflets a
week) which is extremely wasteful as most of it is
for places not accessible to where the leaflets are
distributed.
Also I did not notice anything about the
responsibility of the proprietors to reduce vermin in
the surrounding area. Living close to a chicken
shop I have noticed that there is alot of vermin not
necessarily in the shop but in the streets around
where there are discarded bones etc. The flats
above are often infested with mice.
Noted. No Change
Gordon Bentley General Individual I am not shop owner, but I do enjoy having local
shops to buy from. Your current proposals do not
seem to only deal with the end problem, not the
cause.
Noted No Change
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health an litter ro lems thro
f
James
Obrenyah
General Individual I have just read about the above problem in the
WFM. I disagree that the problem is caused by the
food outlets. It is the people who buy and consume
the food, mostly the youth. What we have to do is
embark on a massive education campaign, similar
to the recycling one This should
go along with arrest and sanctions for offenders. If
smokers can be caught dropping butts then we can
also get those who litter our streets. The campaign
should target schools, leaflets in our letter boxes,
on buses, bus stops etc. There
are countries in this world where people will not
even spit in public. We can
definitely find solutions to this problem.Thank you.
The Council is seeking to undertake
a co-ordinated approach to the
promotion of healthy lifestyles,
eating and food education in the
community (particularly in schools)
to address the issue. The SPD is
just one element of the whole of
Council approach and seeks to act
as one mechanism for tackling
d p b ughout
the Borough.
No Change
Kathy Webb General Individual I have read your proposals to tighten the rules for
hot food takeaways in Waltham Forest. I think they
are a great idea, and not before
time...I agree with almost everything that is
proposed.
Support noted. No Change
Gordon Bentley General Individual I like fast food, and living in the Chingford Mount
area I am spoiled for choice on what type to buy.
But I am bothered about the lack of diversity in the
type of retail shop fronts in my area. Having shops
within walking distance that provide a wide range o
goods, produce, services and food
stuffs - add vitality to a local area and the people
who live there. This important social economic
factor has been neglected in the borough, with the
result we have to travel for shopping, put up with
anti-social behaviour late at night and live with the
litter left by fast food customers, who often do not
live in the immediate area having spent the night
socialising in the 6 pubs/bars at Chingford Mount.
The Core Strategy will provide policy
guidance on maintaining an
appropriate balance of uses to
ensure the ongoing vitality and
viability of town centres and key
retail strips. Which is a key element
towards the achievement of the
Sustainable Community Strategy
objectives relating to attractive,
viable and vibrant day and evening
economies in the Borough.
No Change
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Catherine
Linter
General Individual I read with interest the item on the Waltham Forest
web site about the proposals to tighten the rules for
planning applications for hot food
takeaways in the borough.
You ask the question:
Do you look around and see too many chicken
shops, fish and chip shops, Chinese and Indian
takeaways, kebab shops and other takeaway
shops? The answer is: ABSOLUTELY, YES
I welcome your proposals as I am concerned about
the amount of litter that's generated by these
outlets. The amount of litter on the streets
where I live in Blackhorse Road, Walthamstow, is
predominantly pizza boxes, kebab boxes, burger
boxes etc. Invariably there is food remnants
left in the receptacles when they are dropped on
the street which attracts rats and foxes and also
rotting food poses a health hazard.
I do, however, wonder what will happen to the vast
amounts of establishments already open? It's all
very well stopping new ones opening
but there are already so many trading. What will be
done about those? On suggestion I have is to levy
them with a litter tax to pay for rubbish
collection.
Support noted. Council have recentl
established a HFT Steering Group
which pulls together Officers from
across the Council, including
planning, regeneration, housing,
policy and performance, trading
standards, environmental health,
legal, enforcement, children’s
services, climate change and green
p . T G oup ook ow
officers from various departments
across the Council can act to ensure
that existing Hot Food Takeaway
businesses operate as responsibly
as possible. As well as utilising all
the options already available to us,
the Group will also consider new,
innovative ways of tackling the
broader issues raised by too many
takeaways. These suggestions will
be considered and presented to the
group.
No Change
Jago Wesley General Child Health
Services
Support
Manager (WF -
PCT)
I support the proposal to tighten the laws regarding
take away shops in Waltham Forest. Apart from
the obvious health problems and links to the
growing obesity problem there is a problem with
litter, smells and hygiene. It also may help cut back
on people eating hot smelly food on public
transport.
Support noted. No Change
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c
Anonymous General Individual I think we have really good takeaway places that
are located well. Many food options.
Noted No Change
Bola Alatche General Westminster
Council
I totally disagree of prevent planning applications
for hot food takeway shops in Waltham Forest. I
am totally agree provides necessary information
and enough bins basket around road, parks mostly
take away shop area.
The SPD does not seek to prevent
all applications for hot food
takeaways, rather it seeks to
manage the application process to
ensure that they are situated in
appropriate locations and any likely
adverse impacts of are dealt with
No Change
Belinda Martin General Individual I vote to have the takeways as if they do not people
who are not rich like those in the council will notbe
able to afford food. also, they give us job and they
pay their rent and their business tax and make
money for the borough, so what's the problem?
Don't Stop Doing The Right Thing
upfront The Council is seeking to develop
strategies increase access to
healthy food options and increase
the diversity of retail food outlets
which will equally provide affordable
food, employment opportunities and
generate more sustainable economi
income for the Borough.
No Change
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officer responsib e for one of these oca ities i.e. t
a
a
c
y
s aces his r is l ing at h
Paul Foggit General Household
Health
Improvement
Manager -LAP
I work across a parternship between LBWF's Better
Neighbourhoods Initiative, and NHS Waltham
Forest's Public Health Department, in a lifestyle
support service to help local residents to live a
healthy lifestyle. The service is area based in each
of borough's five deprived communities. I am the
l l l he
Wood St and Hoe St area.
I support residents to live a healthy lifestyle through
encouraging residents to eat healthily, lose weight
(if overweight or obese), to stop smoking, drink
alcohol to sensible levels (if drinkig), participate in a
healthy range of physical exercise and encourage
positive mental wellbeing. We are able to provide
this service through a variety of individual and
family support sessions with ourselves as well as a
referral pathway to our partner organisations. I
have been directly involved in supporting LBWF
residents since May 2007.
I would like to offer my full support and
congratulations to LBWF for proposing such a plan
and taking steps such as this policy, to manage the
sheer size and number of fast food outlets. This is
As well as the difficulty in the amount of refuse whi
Support noted. Council have recentl
established a HFT Steering Group
which pulls together Officers from
across the Council, including
planning, regeneration, housing,
policy and performance, trading
standards, environmental health,
legal, enforcement, children’s
services, climate change and green
p . T G oup ook ow
officers from various departments
across the Council can act to ensure
that existing Hot Food Takeaway
businesses operate as responsibly
as possible. As well as utilising all
the options already available to us,
the Group will also consider new,
innovative ways of tackling the
broader issues raised by too many
takeaways. These suggestions will
be considered and presented to the
group.
No Change
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Caramel Quin General Individual I would like some clarification from you on the
purpose and validity of this consultation.
Council Leader Clyde Loakes has been quoted on
national television as well as in the local
newspaper, saying that this SPD is being brought
into force and that, for example, takeaways will not
be allowed near residential developments.
He's probably right. But the point is, this SPD has
not yet been consulted on, let alone adopted. The
council leader telling the world
that it's a fait accompli makes a total mockery of
LBWF's consultation system and suggests that we
are wasting our time
taking part in any such consultations.
Could you please respond to me with clarification
on this? It may sound picky (especially as I am in
support of the SPD) but there's a very important
principle at stake here. Cllr Loakes should no more
be pre-judging the outcome of this consultation
process than he would, say, a planning application
that had yet to be determined.
The SPD will follow the statutory
consultation process and as
demonstrated by this consultation
report each comment is reviewed
and the draft document will be
amended as required depending on
the issues and proposed outcomes
contained within the consultation
responses in accordance with
established Council protocols and
procedures.
No Change
Anne Watson General Individual I would like to comment that I think the proposal to
limit the number of hot food takeaways in Waltham
Forest is an excellent idea. These outlets not only
increase litter but are a magnet for youths making
them intimidating to walk past.
Support noted, your feedback
provides essential support for the
policy and re-emphasises the
importance of the measures
proposed.
No Change
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Glenor Roberts General Individual I would like to see the closing down of a number of
Take Away Food premises and making it harder for
such businesses to be set up. My objections are
several:-
- young people primarily are congregating at
doorways of such premises with little regard for
passers-by
- the food has little nutritional value, eaten by
primarily young people it seems, with no doubt,
severe implications for the
country's future health profile
- the local area is being littered with the resulting
packaging
- the areas outside of such premises are
increasingly dirty e.g. on Hoe Street on High Street
- as a resident living close to the Centre, I have
noticed an increase in rats; may be related
- let's find other uses for some of the premises;
perhaps a different kind of food store culturally
speaking or put buildings to community use,
including some of the community safety concerns
we currently have as a borough
Support noted, your feedback
provides essential support for the
policy and re-emphasises the
importance of the measures
proposed that seek to manage these
impacts in the future. The Hot Food
Takeaways Corporate Steering
Group are developing strategies for
the enhanced management of
existing HFT's within the Borough.
No Change
Robert
Weatherhead
General Individual I, Robert Weatherhead from 43c Ringwood Road
E17 8PW, agree with all 5 proposals the council
are considering to impose for the Hot Food
Takeaway questionnaire.
Support noted, your feedback
provides essential support for the
policy and re-emphasises the
importance of the measures
proposed.
No Change
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Gary Grange
JP
General Individual If you make fast food less accessible then maybe
they will look towards other alternatives ie remove
fast food outlets around schools and more
children will have school dinners (potentially)
Council are not considering at this
stage to remove existing hot food
takeaway outlets as this would have
significant economic and social
impacts throughout the Borough.
Rather, Council are adopting a
proactive approach through the
establishment of a Hot Food
Takeaway Shops Corporate Steering
group to explore opportunities to
ensure that existing Hot Food
Takeaway businesses operate as
responsibly as possible and
influence demand for hot foods
through health and food education
programs and increased access to
affordable, healthy food options.
No Change
David Mason General Individual If hot food establishments are not viable they will
fail. This is not a planning issue. Individuals are
responsible for what they consume. This is not a
council matter. Sufficent legislation already exists
to control parking. All you need to do is enforce it.
Once a customer has purchased take-away food
they are responsible for the disposal of any litter
not the vendor. Adequate legislation already exists
concerning the dropping of litter again it just needs
to be enforced.
The location of land uses is a
planning issue and within Waltham
Forest Hot Food Takeaways have
been identified as impacting on the
character and function of town
centres, retail strips, crime and anti-
social behaviour, crime and
residential amenity. PPS6
encourages Councils to develop
strategies to manage likely impacts
of particular use types in Town
Centres. Therefore the SPD has
been developed to appropriately
manage this use type (Class A5)
based on locally identified issues in
a holistic manner incorporating all
identified issues such as health,
litter, crime and residential amenity.
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e Cor or te teering rou
Gemma
Woolrych +
Steve Brown
General Individual In our view the worst offenders are definitely the
'chicken' type takeaways, as these are particularly
high fat, low quality food. Their customers are also
much more likely to eat their food on the street and
cause litter (and encourage pests such as rats) by
not putting the boxes
and uneaten food etc in a bin. Customers of Indian
and Chinese takeaways are much more likely to be
eating the meal at home. You rarely see any other
kind of takeaway container as street litter.
Noted. No Change
Carolyn
Appleby
General Individual In terms of the questionnaire, I agree that there
must be more control in terms of the concentration
and location of fast food outlets. I now see blatant
drug dealing around these areas and when I work
from home, I see kids getting chicken and chips
from these outlets after school.
The question I have is how does this borough
attract and provide incentives for unique food
outlets offering healthier cost effective choice?
What do other boroughs do - this way it's more
about competitive forces rather than legislation.
Council are currently investigating
options available to improve access
to healthy food options within the
Borough, attracting and incentivising
the development of healthy food
shops will be considered an an
option.
No Change
W.Smith General Individual Introduce stricter licensing controls under the
Public Health Act, licensing Act 2003. Good liaison
with environmental health and planning
departments is essential.
Noted. Council through its Hot Food
Tak away p a S G p
are looking at developing a co-
ordinated strategy for the
management of issues relating to the
management of existing Hot Food
Takeaway Shops this includes
licensing.
No Change
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d
A. Griffiths General Individual It is ok to restrict but what other facilites are on
offer for year 12 pupils upward e.g.Monoux, LSC,
WF College? Until healthy food is provided these
young people will continue to use hot food shops!
Can we have some positive alternatives? Healthy
food is often more expensive than fried chicken.
The same applies to mums on low budgets where
else can they go to fill up the kids after school?
Noted. The Council have recently
established a Hot Food Takeaways
Steering Group who are actively
working on a co-ordinated approach
to the management of associated
issues such as provision of healthy
and affordable food alternatives to
complement the SPD and ensure a
holistic approach is adopted.
No Change
Khalo Mian General Traders
Association
It makes a sense to check all the recommendation
and insuring they are strictly adhered.
Noted No Change
Mr Barry
Coidan
General Individual Limehouse: I would suggest replacing can by may
in the first sentence. It is also important to stress
that it is the density of such outlets that is a
significant factor. Would it be possible to quantify
this statement. e.g. Numbers of hot food take
aways in specific town centre streets. Increase in
last 5 years. This strikes me as being unnecessary.
I ov d Co
is unsure about the other reasons for restricting the
number of these establishments. Would it not be
possible to limit the number of HTAWs - say 10%
less than existing number reducing over a given
period. Could this not be stronger. Given the
analysis and policy is there a case for saying no
change of use would be allowed? I would suggest
adding may before have in this sentence. could you
say what saturation is in town centres residential
areas? density? level of disruption?
Questionnaire: In general given the relative
pariety of the borough i suspect takeaways are
both inexpensive to open and run and provide an
inexpensive source of food - if unhealhty and limite
It is considered that altering the word
can to may in the first sentence will
have limited impact on the context of
the paragraph. The policy is not
intended to ban all hot food
takeaways rather it is seeking to
ensure they are not approved in
inappropriate locations.
No Change
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S.Kumar General Individual London is one of the largest Metropolos in the
world and as such it cannot have concentrations as
tourist industry need to have such facilities for the
vista and local population
Noted No Change
Christine Hark General Individual Many of these takeaways are run and consumed
by the asian, turkish and african caribbean
communities. Encouragement for healthy eating
should be prioitised in schools and community
groups
An EQIA was undertaken on the
proposed SPD, this outlines how the
impacts on BME groups will be
addressed. Council through its Hot
Food Takeaway Corporate Steering
Group are looking at developing a co
ordinated strategy for the
management of issues relating to the
management of existing Hot Food
Takeaway Shops as well as food
and health education.
No Change
J Harvey General Barn Croft
Primary
N/A N/A No Change
R. Kane General Care-free Kids N/A N/A No Change
S Campbell General Church Hill
Nursery School
& Childrens
Centre
N/A N/A No Change
Mike Reader General Dawlish Primary N/A N/A No Change
N.Cossar General Edinburgh
Primary School
N/A N/A No Change
Drs. ME & SM General GP N/A N/A No Change
Alan Kick General Individual N/A N/A No Change
D Tilley General Individual N/A N/A No Change
G.Brady/ N.
Robins
General Individual N/A N/A No Change
Harding General Individual N/A N/A No Change
K Tanks General Individual N/A N/A No Change
Nasir Mahmud General Individual N/A N/A No Change
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Vior Varanda General Individual N/A N/A No Change
Wendy Wilson General Individual N/A N/A No Change
Deborah
Gibbon
General The Jenny
Hammond
Primary School
N/A N/A No Change
PL Houghton General Thorp Hall
Primary
N/A N/A No Change
Anonymous General N/A N/A No Change
H Gendry General Individual N/A N/A No Change
Anonymous General Individual N/A N/A No Change
Keith Harley General Individual N/A N/A No Change
Jeanne Brown General Riverley Primary
School
N/A N/A No Change
General Priory Court
Community
Centre
N/A N/A No Change
Bennett Pessy General Individual N/A N/A No Change
D. Lawrence General Whittingham
Primary
N/A N/A No Change
H.Stollar General Open Space
Forum
N/A N/A No Change
Stanley Edgar General Headteacher
Whitehall
Primary School
N/A N/A No Change
Mr Tarekul
Islam
General Individual N/A N/A No Change
Marianne
Rigg
General Individual N/A N/A No Change
Paul Siggins General Individual N/A N/A No Change
Anonymous General Individual N/A N/A No Change
Liz Abbott General WCAL N/A N/A No Change
Tony S.C.
Wilding
General Community
Council
N/A N/A No Change
Roland Rance General Individual N/A N/A No Change
Mrs. Waterman General Individual N/A N/A No Change
V. White General Individual N/A N/A No Change
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The Firs General GP Surgery N/A N/A No Change
Mrs. J
Gariazzo
General Individual N/A N/A No Change
E.Upcraft General Individual N/A N/A No Change
Leslie Everett General Waltham Forst
Sports
Development
(cycling)
N/A N/A No Change
J.Spears General Catholic
Handicapped
Fellowhip
N/A N/A No Change
J.Spears General Council Advisor N/A N/A No Change
Karen Stowe General Waltham Forest
College Library
N/A N/A No Change
Michael
Polledri
General Lee Valley
Estates
N/A N/A No Change
Janette Waters General Individual N/A N/A No Change
E Housden General Ashlins Natural
Health
N/A N/A No Change
Mr Norman General N/A N/A No Change
Peter D
Keutsch
General Aldrichie Way
Tra
N/A N/A No Change
J Spears General Waltham Forest
Allotment
Holders
N/A N/A No Change
FW Savill General Individual N/A N/A No Change
Judy Stubbins General Individual N/A N/A No Change
Kerry Rolison General Suntrap Forest
Ed Centre
N/A N/A No Change
Andrew
Williamson
General Argall Bid Ltd N/A N/A No Change
Sonia Titcomb General Ainslie Wood
School
N/A N/A No Change
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e t
t
GA Ing General North London
Business
N/A N/A No Change
Christine Bott General Gwyn Jones
School
N/A N/A No Change
A.J. Wren General Individual N/A N/A No Change
Anita Miller General Individual N/A N/A No Change
Tom Ruxton General Individual N/A N/A No Change
Loraine
Dooney
General Individual N/A N/A No Change
General Waltham Forest
Cameroonian &
Friends
Association
(WFCA),
N/A N/A No Change
General Hornbeam
Environmental
Centre
N/A N/A No Change
Anonymous General Individual N/A N/A No Change
Anonymous General Individual N/A N/A No Change
Daniel Perrett General Individual N/A N/A No Change
P.Clarke General Individual N/A N/A No Change
Ros Hat General Richmond
Fellowship
N/A N/A No Change
General FBC N/A N/A No Change
Tom Pattison General Individual N/A N/A No Change
J.Comnetti General Storeydown
Park Primar
N/A N/A No Change
Pauline Best General Individual N/A N/A No Change
J.Spears General West L y on
Allotment
Association
N/A N/A No Change
J.Spears General Individual N/A N/A No Change
J.Spears General Waltham Fores
Alliotment
Holders
Association
N/A N/A No Change
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L.Mount General Individual N/A N/A No Change
Mr Howard
Newell
General Individual N/A N/A No Change
L.Goldsmith General Parish Church N/A N/A No Change
Steve Cuthbert General Waltham Forest
Green Party
N/A N/A No Change
HL Dymbar General Individual N/A N/A No Change
Beth Brown General Individual N/A N/A No Change
B Levene General Individual N/A N/A No Change
F.Bowers General Individual N/A N/A No Change
Mrs. Da
Southorp
General Individual N/A N/A No Change
D.Fischer General The Old Church
Surgery
N/A N/A No Change
M.C. Oley General Individual N/A N/A No Change
Mr G Paiw General Individual N/A N/A No Change
Mahf Ambia General Queens Road
Community
Centre
N/A N/A No Change
Helen
Carmichael
General LBWF -
Integrated
Education
Support Service
N/A N/A No Change
Robert
Vaughan
General Individual N/A N/A No Change
Miss Rachael
A. Bust
General Deputy Head of
Planning,
Planning and
Local Authority
Liaison The
Coal Authority
N/A N/A No Change
Mr. Patrick
Blake
General Highways
A enc
N/A N/A No Change
Jane Powell General Woodford
Green School
N/A N/A No Change
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Anonymous General Individual N/A N/A No Change
M Porter General Leyton Orient
FC
N/A N/A No Change
Carla Cornelius General Walthamstow
Toy Library
N/A N/A No Change
Jill Watkin General Individual N/A N/A No Change
Lisa Walduck General Natural England No comment to make on document Noted No Change
Liz Lightbourne General Environment
Agency
No comment to make on document Noted No Change
Deborah
Gibbon
General The Theatres
Trust
No comment to make on document Noted No Change
A.L. Minh General Asian
Community
Action
No more take-away from Thatched house onward
towards Whipps roundabout, also hairdressers
(drugs den). Trading standard is very inactive -
there are so many rough businesses.
Council have recently established a
HFT Steering Group which pulls
together Officers from across the
Council, including planning,
regeneration, housing, policy and
performance, trading standards,
environmental health, legal,
enforcement, children’s services,
climate change and green spaces.
This Group is looking at how officers
from various departments across the
Council can act to ensure that
existing Hot Food Takeaway
businesses operate as responsibly
as possible. Trading standards are a
key agenda item.
No Change
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Paul Morris General Individual Not all takeaways serve 'poor' food. They vary from
place to place e.g. a 'subway' type store is not the
same as a kebab one, as a vegetarian one as a
meat serving one. If the council fail to provide
alternative food within schools then not surprising
pupils eat elsewhere - and who is the council to
take away civil liberty to when/where folk eat.
Pupils will conversly travel further to eat as snack
out on say crisps with chocolates or eat nothing -
also detrimental to well being. As to location it is
only food shops which can be economically viable -
high local rates mean alternative shopping will not
settle there. So then we'll have empty shops then
the temptation to turn them into housing further
degrading a shopping area e.g. Grove Green Rd
Parade 30 years ago a fill and local shopping area,
now a poor collection of properties - many now
houses - some used as houses withou changing
the shop front! If you locate away from them you
have to use a car to access - another economic
and environmental disaster.
It is recognised that not all takeaway
shops serve poor food, however
there is widespread agreement that
there is a proliferation of hot food
takeaways in the borough. It is
considered that proliferation of hot
food takeaways in town centres is
generally seen to reflect a lack of
vibrancy and vitality. They tend to
"lower the tone" and so have an
adverse impact on other shops and
businesses in the area. By taking
action to limit the number of
takeaways, we hope to enhance
local shopping parades both
physically (nicer shop fronts, less
litter etc) and economically (greater
range of shops and services to
attract a wider range of shoppers
etc). As identified in the Core
Strategy the LDF will incorporate
strategies that seek to retain wealth
in the borough and ensure a well
balanced mix of uses is created and
maintained.
No Change
E.Saddler General Individual Obesity is high in this Borough. I wonder
why:cheap takeaway meals for school childres also
the cut in street cleaning schows how bad this
borou h really is.
Noted. No Change
Anthony Brown General Individual Of particular concern is the amount of takeaway
rubbish dumped on pavements surrounding
Norlington Boys School and the lack of respect
shown by pupils of this school for the
neighbourhood through which they rampage
dropping chips, boxes, chicken and burger refuse.
Noted. Council are seeking to
develop strategies for the
management of litter throughout the
Borough.
No Change
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y p p
Ian Johnston General Headteacher,
William Morris
School
On behalf of the staff and students of William
Morris School , I would like to lend my complete
support to the Council's initiative to retrict hot fast
food outlets close to schools. Such outlets
perpeuate a raft of behaviour, contrary to the
current Every Child Matters agenda, which seeks
to increase health, safety and participation in
society specifically such outlets: a)Act as
honey pots for young people to gather at
lunchtimes and after school, blocking pavements,
causing threatening behaviours, congregations of
adolscents. Such gatherings perpetuate the issue
of rubbish on our streets and put together presents
a thoroughly anti-social scenario which degrades
the immediate environment and certainly doesn't
present the borough as a forward thinking
progressive place to live, work and enjoy leisure
time in. b) Perpetuares poor eating habits and
contributes to the adolscent obesity concern.
Schools work hard to generate good eating heabits
and healthy choices, in quality eating
environments. Hot fast food outlets- perpetuate the
pposite, this working directly against schools and ip
Support noted, your feedback
provides essential support for the
policy and re-emphasises the
importance of the measures
proposed.
No Change
Julia Rodney General Individual Only recently commented to colleagues about the
number of takeaways in Old Church Rd, Chingford,
having walked past them one evening rather than
driven. Really noticeable. Totally unpleasing to
have so man in a row.
Support noted. Your feedback
provides essential support for the
policy and re-emphasises the
importance of the measures
ro osed.
No Change
C A Ramsey General Individual People must be free to decided. Competition is vital
and proposals would be encourage nepotism and
corruption.
Noted No Change
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Peter Lillington General Waltham Forest
City Learning
Centre
Please encourage a mix/range of outlets including
those which provide options to support a healthy
balanced diet. Also outlets which provide seating
and waste disposal either inside or outside the
premises. Currently an issue for some of young
people using our facility in Billet Rd.
Support noted. Your feedback
provides essential support for the
policy and re-emphasises the
importance of the measures
proposed. Further to the SPD, the
Local Development Framework will
outline Council's intensions
regarding providing a well balanced
mix of uses throughout the Borough
and maximising choice.
No Change
Tom Davidson General Individual Please encourage shops we really need. Station
Road has lost (1) Good Quality footwear shop, (2)
good general stationery shop (3) good butcher (4)
Good shop for cd's classical or pop. Peopl in
Buggies or on Zummes cannot get to the Mouth,
Enfield or Ilford to access these items.
Support noted. Your feedback
provides essential support for the
policy and re-emphasises the
importance of the measures
proposed. Further to the SPD, the
Local Development Framework will
outline Council's intensions
regarding providing a well balanced
mix of uses throughout the Borough
and maximising choice.
No Change
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P.Chapman General Individual Please make sure that regular refuse collection is
done near takeaway outlets. Too often rubbish bins
are left overflowing. Also, we have a problem with
gulls (and, or the forest verges, squirrels) who
empty bins foraging for food.
Council have recently established a
HFT Steering Group which pulls
together Officers from across the
Council, including planning,
regeneration, housing, policy and
performance, trading standards,
environmental health, legal,
enforcement, children’s services,
climate change and green spaces.
This Group is looking at how officers
from various departments across the
Council can act to ensure that
existing Hot Food Takeaway
businesses operate as responsibly
as possible. As well as utilising all
the options already available to us,
the Group will also consider new,
innovative ways of tackling the
broader issues raised by too many
takeaways. Waste management and
litter are key agenda items.
No Change
K.Bryson General Bushwood
Allotment
Society
Prohibit takeaways on any site that has had a
previous food outlet on the site that was closed
either temporarily or permanently. There are far too
many and this would help reduce their number.
Council will be looking to develop
strategies for the diversification of
retail offerings in Town Centres and
shopping strips, encouraging
alternative uses into closed down
premises may be an option.
No change
Usher Parmer General Individual Provide incentives for 50% provision of healthy
option alternatives. E.g. if kebab menu choices are
50% healthier and if cheaper than high fat option,
then this would be looked upon favourably.
Council are currently investigating
opportunities for influencing menu
options
No Change
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S.Langley General Girlguiding UK Question 2 would be difficult to put in place I feel, if
all the suggested places were to be thought of as
they are mostly close to one or the other. Keeping
numbers of outlets down I feel is the answer. How
do you reduce outlets without affecting job,
families, children?
Noted. Key objectives of the new
Local Development Framework are
to ensure job creation and access to
employment opportunities as well as
providing a balance of uses.
No Change
Helen Lerner General WVRA Question 3 is ambiguos. It is not the takeaway
shops at fault - at the root of the problem are
parents giving children money to buy it and not
cooking proper meals.
Noted No Change
Dennis Tilley General Individual Regarding your letter 30/10/08 and the Council's
future policy to restrict takeaways in the borough, I
agree and my group agree with these aspirations to
clean up this problem. I have read carefully your
documentation and agree you have covered most
of?the points to stop this proliferation of such
establishments.
However, without enforcement your aspirations fall
flat! As a typical example take the fast food outlets
in Wood Street directly opposite the school,
Woodside. There are at least six of these?hot food
takeaways, some right next to each other, some
have had change of use without permission, for
example the new Subs takeway should not be
allowed!
The rules are quite clear under your existing UDP,
action could be taken why has it not?
There are many breaking the rules at this location
from planning, food standards, trading standards,
etc, why does the Council not take action? Use this
location as an example to show residents in the
borough the Council are serious and not all talk!
?
Regarding?the Bell Vue Park Estate, this an other
such areas, need to be include in the local plans as
As outlined within Section 5.7 of the
SPD through enforcement Council
will seek to ensure compliance with
the SPD once adopted and is in the
process of reviewing existing
enforcement procedures for existing
Hot Food Takeaway establishments.
No Change
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g
Juanta Foksin General Newton Head
Teacher
Rodent infestation is a huge problem around the
city centre and market areas, adversely impacting
on residential properties in the area. Businesses
should be made to take more responsibility or
storage and removal of waste or we would end up
with rat related epidemic in the borough.
Noted. The SPD incorporates these
requirements to make it clear that
disposal of waste products is a key
consideration in the process for
obtaining planning permission and
provides clarity that unless suitable
management procedures can be
demonstrated planning permission
will not be granted.
No Change
A.
Gatriemeokal
General Individual Since hot food businesses are run by families and
low income groups, we need to be aware of the full
impact of planning control on job creation.
The EQIA identifies this issue and
Council through the Hot Food
Takeaways Corporate Steering
Group are currently seeking a
looking to facilitate a practical
solution to mitigate these potential
negative effects through adoption of
a Council wide partnership
pproach.
No Change
K.Segal General Individual Smell from McDonalds is bad enough, I don't want
or use fast food outlets generally - except the chip
shop at the top of the hi h street.
Noted No Change
Mazhar Tirmazi General Individual Some restaurants, chicken shops, such as BBQ at
Hoe St sell rotten and food to risk our health on
High st Tropical cinese and Indian takeaway and
buffet has unhygenic environments I have
experienced myself. Council need to ensure the
hygiene and food quality especially on Indian
takeaways and chicken shops in the borough. High
Street an Hoe St especially.
Noted. Food Services conduct
regular inspections of all food
premises and where essential
hygiene standards are not met,
premises are required to close down
until the situation has been rectified.
The Hot Food Takeaway Shops
Corporate Steering Group will
discuss whether further action is
required in this respect.
No Change
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Miss Shakera
Begum
General Individual Streets are littered with chicken bones, discarded
by people eating chicken and chips out of a box.
It’s a shame that children are presented a view
that chicken and chips, pizza and doner kebabs, all
proven unhealthy are th only food options of
lunchtimes.
Support noted. Your feedback
provides essential support for the
policy and re-emphasises the
importance of the measures
proposed. Council through its Hot
Food Takeaway Corporate Steering
Group are looking at developing a co
ordinated strategy for tackling the
issues associated with Hot Food
Takeaways and are seeking to
incorporate measures for increasing
awareness of the health impacts.
No Change
Dr Bhatnagar General GP- Francis Rd,
Medical Centre
Strongly agree that there should be waste disposal
systems.
Support noted. No Change
Matt Winfield General Individual Strongly agree with all the above and look forward
to seeing actions particularly regarding waste.
Support noted. No Change
Stephen Harvie General Individual Take Aways seem to be responsible for a
disproportionate amount of litter which attracts
vermin and spoils the look of the town.
Support noted. Your feedback
provides essential support for the
policy and re-emphasises the
importance of the measures
No Change
Anonymous General Individual Takeaways should be located close to residents so
they have access and don't have to use their cars
to travel there which would reduce the impact on
road safety.
proposedNoted. Applications for takeaway
shops will be required to be located
in areas where they do not impose
adverse impacts on residential
amenity.
No Change
Anonymous General Individual Clusters of takeaways should be avoided however
if market forces dictates then customers should
have a choice of where to g .
Noted. No Change
Kevin Walton General National
Express
Takeaways within the borough cause and create
unnecessary hardship for other businesses and
organisations in the area through littering of the
environment. This gives a rundown appearance to
highways, key public meeting places and public
facilities.
Support noted. Your feedback
provides essential support for the
policy and re-emphasises the
importance of the measures
proposed.
No Change
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hereas health ser i es an s ho
Mrs.P.Wardell General Hydro Forest TA Thanks for some good news, aparently we are
running alive with rats, lets hope this will reduce
this health safety problem.
Support noted. No Change
Gary Grange
JP
General Individual The LA should also encourage outlets that sell
healthier foods (juice bars etc)
Council have established a Hot Food
Takeaways Corporate Steering
Group to establish how officers from
various departments across the
Council can act to ensure that
existing Hot Food Takeaway
businesses operate as responsibly
as possible. As well as utilising all
the options already available to us,
the Group will also consider new,
innovative ways of tackling the wider
issues which may include food and
health education programs aimed at
reducing the demand for fast food
and increased access to healthy
food options.
No Change
Fara Cardeux General Walthamstow
Academy
The bigger key to success is education and pricing
not 'nanny state' legislation against shop-keepers.
Council are adopting a holistic
approach to the issues through its
Hot Food Takeaway Corporate
Steering Group who looking at
developing a co-ordinated strategy
for the management of issues
relating to the management of
existing Hot Food Takeaway Shops.
The SPD is considered to be
planning's response to the issue,
w v c d c ols
will provide food and health
education programs.
No Change
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Cor or t t rin
M Dunhill General Highams Park
Forum
The council has left this too late for Highams Park
because the take-away culture has already left
residents with unacceptable waste products from
so many shops which have become take-aways.
They cause late night rowdiness and try and open
later and later which encourages even more noise,
when the residents want to sleep. Unfortunately,
council workers will not place waste bins in the
roads leading from the shopping area, We are told
that collection is impossible and one bin has been
removed from Castle Avenue.
Noted. The Council have recently
established a Hot Food Takeaways
Steering Group who are actively
working on a co-ordinated approach
to the management of issues such
as anti-social behaviour and litter
generation to complement the SPD
and ensure a holistic approach to the
management of existing shops.
No Change
P. Rerjan () General Individual The council should do more to encourage other
businesses to take up leases not just prevent hot
food takeaways from locating. Empty shops are no
good to anyone.
Council through its Hot Food
Takeaway p a e S ee g Group
are looking at developing a co-
ordinated strategy for the
management of issues relating to the
management of existing Hot Food
Takeaway Shops, adressing issues
of empty shops is a key agenda
item.
No Change
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John Watling General Individual The Council's publicly expressed desire to refuse
all future takeaways from opening within 400
metres of schools, parks or youth facilities
convieniently ignores the fact that there must be
many existing outlets within these areas already.
This means that little will change locally and that
the ability of the Council to pevent more opening
may well be difficult.
The general public has expressed enthusiasm for
this policy, many believing that besides refusing
new outlets those already existing will be closed
down. This is clearly not feasible and I regret that
the Council, so far as I know, has not corrected this
false assumption. I hope that Members will be fully
briefed on the realities of these proposals before
they take a decision and that the public are made
aware of its limitations.
In regard to the proposed criteria I suggest that
many of the conditions proposed ought to have
been imposed in the past irrespective of their
relationship to schools, etc.
John Watling
The Council do not have the ability
to close down existing lawful
takeaway shops. The SPD does not
suggest that this is the case and
through the consultation process
the document has been widely
available for public viewing,
therefore it is considered that any
false assumptions in this respect are
outside Council's control. The SPD
will follow the required process
through Cabinet prior to adoption.
No Change
Mrs. Cullimore General Individual The levels of high fat in the food, drains being
blocked, unpleasant odours and copious amounts
of rubbish.
Noted. No Change
Dr. J Lampard General Individual The litter is offensive. The quality of food
questionable and I commend LBWF's policy action
on health matters.
Support noted. No Change
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ag
MR RICHARD
UNWIN
General sole principal
RICHARD
UWNIN
CHARTERED
SURVEYORS
Many outlets other than hot food shops provide
prepared food sweets snacks and drinks – from a
newsagents to a supermarket the petrol filling
station shop the local bakery cafes McDonalds the
ice cream van with a pitch near a school and often
the schools themselves have vending machines
providing drinks and snacks to support the school
fund. Many schools even have tuck shops with no
regulation on what is purchased – particularly in
the secondary sector. In primary schools healthy
snacks such as fresh fruit are provide for the
children.
Noted. No Change
Sara Morgan General School The rise in fast food establishments does little to
address the staying healthy element or the ECM
enda
Support noted. No Change
Julie Mina General GP Surgery The smell in the evening at the marhouse corner is
NOT pleasant.
Noted. No Change
Mrs F
Simmons
General Individual The whole point of takeaways is that they are
convenient - most students need access to
alternative canteen facilities and in areas of high
single occupancy of flats or where there are a
number of single hot food restaurante (takeaways)
are perhaps the only way of ensuring a hot meal if
little provided at home in the way of cooking
facilities.
It is considered that there is already
market saturation of accessible Hot
Food Takeaway Shops within the
Borough, the SPD is seeking to
manage the further proliferation of
outlets that may be detrimental in
certain areas to enable
diversification of food options
available.
No Change
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Seamus
Marney
General Individual There are currently loads of fast food places on the
High St and this has lead to high levels of litter all
over. School kids use them for lunch and this leads
to groups of kids hanging around. They are very
unhealthy. Fast food shops should be very closely
monitored.
Support noted. Council have recentl
established a HFT Steering Group
which pulls together Officers from
across the Council, including
planning, regeneration, housing,
policy and performance, trading
standards, environmental health,
legal, enforcement, children’s
services, climate change and green
p . T G oup ook ow
officers from various departments
across the Council can act to ensure
that existing Hot Food Takeaway
businesses operate as responsibly
as possible.
No Change
Mr Dunil Ullah General Individual There are far too many fast-food outlets in
Waltham Forest, leaving consumers with littler or
no other alternatives. Many of them are located
near schools, this is clearly mde visible by the
queues outside thse outlets at lunchtime - all
children in school unifroms. Children should be
encouraged to eat healthy meals. Often these
outlets are compteing by price, i.e. pizza for 99p.
The quality of these food products have to be
Support noted. Council have recentl
established a HFT Steering Group
w c k w ff c f m
various departments across the
Council can act to ensure that
existing Hot Food Takeaway
businesses operate as responsibly
as possible. Youth food and health
education is a key agenda item.
No Change
G. Martin General Individual ti d t h l iThere are far too many in the Borough and they
add to obesit problems
Support noted. No Change
Gerri Schaper General NHS Trust There are far too many takeaway facilities Noted. No Change
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Maureen
Jethwa
General Individual There are far too many takeaways opening
lowering the tone of our already saddened
shopping and residential areas, forcing out other
busineses' and causing unsocial behaviour and
littering.
HOWEVER - although I strongly support any
measures to control the numbers and locations I
also have very strong concerns that ANY food
outlet should be allowed to open without passing at
least basic food hygiene requirements - ie that all
food outlets hot or cold (eg ice cream parlours)
should be licensed with regards to health and
safety and food hygiene practices BEFORE they
are allowed to serve the public. Then they should
also be subject to regular inspections. I also think
all restaurants and takeaways - London/country
wide - should be obliged to show their licence and
health rating certificate. This should be a
London/countrywide requirement required by
statute and administered by local authorities.
I am also distressed and amazed at the numbers of
mini supermarkets opening everywhere. How
these places manage to stay open when there are
Support noted. Your feedback
provides essential support for the
policy and re-emphasises the
importance of the measures
proposed. All food premises must
register with the Waltham Forest
Food & Safety Section under
Regulation (EC) No. 852/2004 on
the hygiene of foodstuffs, Artcile 6
(2).
No Change
Deniz Mistafa General Individualso many of them in direct competion amazes me TThere are too many of them. They cause a lot of
litter. Putting litter bins outside is not good enough
as people tend to walk and eat. Bins should also be
places several hundred meters away from the
premises.
Support noted. No Change
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e elop en ra ewor
y
raised by too any takeaways oo
Robert
Wilkingson
General WF Oral History
Working Group
There are too many takeaways concentrated along
main roads like Forest Road, Leyton High Road
etc. There can be whole terraces with half the
shops takeaways. They do nothing for the locality
and cause a lot of litter. Go there lunchtime and
they are full of school children eating chicken,
bur ers, chips and little else.
Support noted. Your feedback
provides essential support for the
policy and re-emphasises the
importance of the measures
proposed.
No Change
Mr Fitzpatrick General Individual There are too many takeaways in leytonstone, we
need more local shops like in Wandsted high st to
attract more shoppers rather than drunks after the
pubs shut.
Support noted. Your feedback
provides essential support for the
policy and re-emphasises the
importance of the measures
proposed. The new Local
D v m t F m k will seek to
ensure a balance mix of uses are
provided in the future within Town
Centres and retail parades.
No Change
Colette
Shrubsole
General Individual There is so much positive work going on in
sschools and communities to promote healthier
eating and reducing waster that this must also
reflect what is going on in our local high streets. An
extremely positive move by LBWF!
Support noted. No Change
T. Feaster General Individual There needs to be easy access to parking facilities
wherever they set up and shouldn't be near schools
Noted. No Change
J Sauger General SCCP There should be very few shops around due to
health concerns in Waltham Forest. No shops
should open near schools and children should be
encouraged to eat healthy school meals.
Support noted. Council have recentl
established a HFT Steering Group
which consider new, innovative
ways of tackling the broader issues
m . F d
and health education are a key
agenda item.
No Change
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Gary Grange
JP
General Individual Therefore it needs to consider 2 things in
tandem 1) How do we reduce people's need for
fast food and encourage healthy eating
Council have established a Hot Food
Takeaways Corporate Steering
Group to establish how officers from
various departments across the
Council can act to ensure that
existing Hot Food Takeaway
businesses operate as responsibly
as possible. As well as utilising all
the options already available to us,
the Group will also consider new,
innovative ways of tackling the wider
issues which may include food and
health education programs aimed at
reducing the demand for fast food
and increased access to healthy
No Change
S. Tatham General Individual There's too many already a new one should only b
allowed to open if an existing one is closed. A lot of
the rubbish around the streets is from fast food
outlets.
f d tiSupport noted. No Change
Mr & Mrs Reid General Individual These shops create too much litter which is thrown
on the streets. They should produce re-cyclable
boxes etc, and have bins outside the shops so that
the used boxes etc can be disposed of in an
environmentally friendly way.
Council will investigate the possibility
of incorporating a requirement for
environmentally friendly packaging
for food and drink and the potential
for an on-site recycling bin.
No Change
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John Wilman General Individual These takeaways most often remove the existing
shopfront and install an inappropriate aluminimun
one. They also have internally illuminated signs -
they are not applied for and seldom enforced
against. They also have shutters - which are never
enforced and become lawful - particularly on Hoe
Street and Lea Bridge Road. The Councilhas a
good SPG on shopfronts and a very good
conservation/ design officer who could advise
these shops on how to advertise and design
shopfronts - but I think no one asks him! Essentiall
the standards should be upheld and if this was the
case, the shops themselves would take many other
issues more seriously - waste , smells from flues
etc etc.
Noted. No Change
Amelia General Individual To get ready of rubbish and pomf. Noted No Change
William Bailey General Individual Too many already. Support noted No Change
B. Moyhing General Chapel End
Infant School
Try to persuade takeaway shops to promote
healthier options
Council are currently investigating
opportunities for influencing menu
options.
No Change
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Kay Bibbey General Waltham Forest
South Division
Guides
Walthamstow has become a town full of fast food
outlets, continental supermarkets and continental
style cafes. There is no entertainment facilities for
our youngsters such as cinema, bowling alley,
climbing centres etc, so the only places to go and
socialise with friends is in these food outlets. They
not only help to produce overweight children but
destroy the planet with all their rubbish which litters
many residents front gardens. I have lived all my
life in Walthamstow and feel that it is a very big
decline that holds nothing for our future
generations.
The new Local Development
Framework which is currently in
progress will provide strategies for
improving the diversity of retail and
entertainment offerings within the
borough to ensure that community
recreational and entertainment
needs are met. Through the SPD
and the corporate steering group the
Council will seek to ensure that the
issues associated (i.e. health, litter
etc) with Hot Food Takeaways are
managed appropriately.
No Change
R Bridge General Religious
Society of
Friends
Waste carelessly left encourage foxes to increase
or in some cases cause harm through poisoning to
the foxes.
The SPD incorporates these
requirements to make it clear that
disposal of waste products is a key
consideration in the process for
obtaining planning permission and
provides clarity that unless suitable
management procedures can be
demonstrated planning permission
will not be granted. Council are
currently reviewing enforcement
procedures relating to this issue.
No Change
Anonymous General Individual We agree with your proposals but these questions
aren't fair and balanced. Future consultations need
better designed questions or you will dsicredit the
process of consultation
Noted. No Change
HC Richards General Individual We already have too many with all the relevant
problems including infestation of rats!!
Noted. No Change
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already in e istence, schools close by and res
ta ea ays seems to not only impact on the amount
Mr & Mrs
Cheshire
General Individual We are currently in contact with our local councillor
and planning dept. re a proposed indian takeaway
closse to our property. *All of the above points
would apply to this case and in particular for us
pt.5. Would be of great concern. Although we enjoy
a curry ourselves occasionally we would fin di t
unbearable to have the smell of it at all hours of the
day and night in our house and garden. Th
preoperty concerned is a busy road with a
dangerous blind corner, and other takeaways
x ulting
litter and anti-social problems.
Noted. The SPD will seek to ensure
that future applications for Hot Food
Takeaways do not create
unnacceptable impacts on
neighbouring uses.
No Change
Katherine and
Darren
Longhurst
General Individual We are please to see that the council is finally
going to tackle the number of takeaways in the
borough. Living in Highams Park we have noticed
in the past couple of years that the opening of more
k w
of litter but also the gangs of
children hanging around. The shops themselves
are making the area look cheap and nasty. In
particular this is a problem along Winchester Road.
It is just a pity that this legislation is coming in now
after the damage has been done.
Support noted, your feedback
provides essential support for the
policy and re-emphasises the
importance of the measures
proposed.
No Change
Patricia Sharpe General AACSN We are wholly against the current high
concentrations of takeaways particularly near our
schools. It is abhorent that children are exposed to
poor diets when the government is focused on
providing health and health literacy.
Support noted. Your feedback
provides essential support for the
policy and re-emphasises the
importance of the measures
proposed.
No Change
SS Robbins General Individual We do not need anymore junkfood establishments Support noted. No Change
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ool orth vacate their uildings in the orough
d t o
JM Sullivan General Individual We have lived in E11 for over 40 years its just
awful now. Whats going to happen to takeawats
noweven leytonstone is flooded with them causing
so much rubbish
Noted. No Change
Sue and John
Bucknel
General Individual We have too many Food outlets and Charity
Shops. The local community needs retail shops.
With the current financial situation who needs more
hot food outlets and the rubbish they generate. Thi
Council has failed in keeping the streets clean
since Keir has taken over street cleaning. Should
W w b b will
they become Pubs selling food or Charity shops?.
Sue and John Bucknell
Support noted. Your feedback
provides essential support for the
policy and re-emphasises the
importance of the measures
proposed. The new Local
Development Framework which is
currently in progress will provide
strategies for improving the diversity
of retail and entertainment offerings
within the borough to ensure that
community recreational and
entertainment needs are met
No Change
Janet Mortali General Individual We need to help educate our young people of good
nutrition, and to un ers and 'fast-food d esn't equal
'good food'
Council have recently established a
HFT Steering Group which will also
consider new, innovative ways of
tackling the broader issues raised by
too many takeaways, such as
increased support for youth food
education and health programs. This
suggestion will be considered and
presented to the group.
No Change
Gemma
Woolrych +
Steve Brown
General Individual We strongly support the councils plans to restrict
the number and location of 'Hot Food Takeaway'
premises in the borough. In terms of health, litter,
and diversity of local amenities it makes a lot of
sense.
Support noted, your feedback
provides essential support for the
policy and re-emphasises the
importance of the measures
proposed.
No Change
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Minaxi Patel General Individual Welcome the tightening of the rules for planning
application for takeaway shops in this borough. I
would like to see included the requirement to use
sustainable and environmentally friendly packaging
for food and drink. Also a requirement to clear
packaging dropped by their customers from the
vicinity of their shop, say to a radius of 1000
metres.
Council will investigate the possibility
of incorporating a requirement for
environmentally friendly packaging
for food and drink.
No Change
Mr C Sparrey General Individual With so many takeawayshops, more litter will be on
the streets and young people will grow up not
knowing how to cook anything
The Local Development Framework
will provide strategies to ensure that
a well balanced mix of uses is
provided within town centres and
throughout the Borough.
No Change
Gordon Bentley General Individual Would it not be prudent to consider charging a
higher business rate for fast food takeaways, and a
subsidised rate for a shop owners who are the only
ones in the local high street area providing a
specific type of service, or product - eg the local
butcher. The latter need protecting from market
forces and increasing costs in the next year.
Noted. The retail policies within the
Core Strategy will provide guidance
on appropriate measures to ensure
that a range of uses is maintained
throughout the Borough.
No Change
Nancy Smith General Individual Yes I would agree that the proliferation of chicken
shops and kebab shops in the area are a problem
and not just on Hoe Street but on Chingford Road.
Every food shop in between The Bell and The
Crooked Billet sells either chicken or kebabs.
Support noted, your feedback
provides essential support for the
policy and re-emphasises the
importance of the measures
proposed.
No Change
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Jacqui
Alexander
General Individual You did not give an address in the WFM to which
to send your questionnaire on the above subject.
Therefore, my questionnaire answers/comments
are below:
1. Agree
2. Agree
3. Agree
4. Agree
5. Agree
Support noted, your feedback
provides essential support for the
policy and re-emphasises the
importance of the measures
proposed.
No Change
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through the onsu tation with interna
Gary Grange
JP
General Individual Consider what constitutes "high density".I'm not
sure that the new proposals are adequate and I
believe the overall retail environment should be
considered. In tandem with the consideration
around the overall numbers of hot food takeaway's
the LA should be considering encouraging
healthy eating and should possibly set a criteria
for new outlets to have to offer X percentage of
healthy options
Significant geographical analysis has
been undertaken on the existing
number and location of Hot Food
Takeaways within the Borough and
c l l
and external stakeholders Tests
HFT 1 and HFT2 establish what the
overconcentration and clustering
levels are based on locational
characteristics. For examples in
Town Centres excess of 5% of the
retail frontage is considered to be
appropriate density for A5 uses. The
Tests have been designed to
maintain flexibility in an
everchanging business environment
to ensure that each application is
assessed based on the number of
existing A5 shops at the time of
application. Council have
considered incorporation of a menu
requirement into the SPD but
consider the operational implications
of such a requirement difficult to
enforce through planning and as
such will look into incorporating this
into the corporate strategy being
No Change
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people ont a proper licence to open hope
Waqar Ahmed General Individual I am a takeaway owner within walthamforest. The
thing i dont understand is that the council want less
takeaways to open but are allowing people to open
cafes without a proper A3 application. The council
says that these cafes dont need a licence because
they dont sell hot food, but seeing as no one ever
eats a cold pannini or baguette i dont understand
the councils way of thinking. Secondly these cafes
will lead to the same problems of littering and anti
social behaviour that the council claim are
attributed to restaurants. This is is due to the large
number of cafes that will start opening because
d A3 .I that
my views are considered and i await some
response.
Noted. However, all new A3 uses
require Planning Permission. The
policy has been developed in
response to a community identified
issue specifically relating to the
proliferation of A5 uses.
No Change
Jan Simpson General Individual I wish to register my support for the proposed
limitation of these outlets. I regularly walk along
Leyton High Road to the tube, and the amount of
litter and food on the pavements is horrible. I also
believe that young people should be encouraged to
eat less of this type of food. Thank you for
proposing such a sensible proposal.
Support noted, your feedback
provides essential support for the
policy and re-emphasises the
importance of the measures
proposed.
No Change
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altha orest here are ar too an alrea
e
polystyrene plastic containers the c stomers do
-
yin
Janine Eagling General Individual I would welcome any restricitons on any new
chicken/pizza/burger/kebab etc outlets opening in
W m F . T f m y dy. I
would not trust the hygiene and food safety practic
of many of these, as they seem to have few
customers - fast food, but slow turnaround is not
the best background for a salubrious outlet to buy
food from. Also:
the packaging is not environmentally friendly, ie,
/ u not
dispose of them responsibly, vermin are therefore
encouraged the food itself is intrinsically unhealthy
would someone like to produce a report on where
that cheap chicken comes from and how it is
reared?
On the other hand, I would be delighted if a good
quality fish and chip shop opened in Walthamstow
Central or a good quality Indian takeaway, like
Ruby's/Ambala in Leyton High Rd. If they could
sell the food by weight and you could bring your
own container, even better!
Support noted, your feedback
provides essential support for the
policy and re-emphasises the
importance of the measures
proposed.
No Change
Anonymous General Individual 3. - It is not clear how you consider takeaway
shops could cause a risk of crime. Is it reasonable
to prevent legitimate businesses from operating
because of the actions of criminals or anti-social
people? The actions of local government in trying
to dictate and control 'ordinary people' is frankly
worr g.
Noted. However, Council have
evidence from the local Police that
existing Hot Food Takeaway shops
within the have been known to
attract anti-social behaviour and
noise complaints.
No Change
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A Mahmood General Individual A consolidated food market having informational
food shops on ground floor of the arcade may invite
many visitors from out of borough as well. The
business community may buy proposed shops in
advance and ….the financial problem for the
arcade re-construction.
Council have recently established a
HFT Steering Group which pulls
together Officers from across the
Council, including planning,
regeneration, housing, policy and
performance, trading standards,
environmental health, legal,
enforcement, children’s services,
climate change and green spaces.
This Group is looking at how officers
from various departments across the
Council can act to ensure that
existing Hot Food Takeaway
businesses operate as responsibly
as possible. As well as utilising all
the options already available to us,
the Group will also consider new,
innovative ways of tackling the
broader issues raised by too many
takeaways. This suggestion will be
considered and presented to the
group.
No Change
A Betts General Connaught
School
A good idea. Locations near schools cause
problems with encouraging pupils to eat healthy
school lunches.
Support noted. No Change
WF Rec General Individual Above all it is unhealthy eating Noted. No Change
Snanp () General Individual All takeways should have extra local tax to cover
high cost of cleaning the rubbish know in my old
town.
Idea noted. Council will consider this
as an option in the on-going
management of Hot Food Takaway
Shops.
No Change
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Dave Raval General Individual Also consider the environmental impact of their
packaging. Have a covenant which requires them
to use 100% recyclable packaging (e.g. tin foil
metals but not plastic trays in Waltham Forest) and
to generally minimise waster, as a requirement of
them gaining planning approval.
Council have recently established a
HFT Steering Group which pulls
together Officers from across the
Council, including planning,
regeneration, housing, policy and
performance, trading standards,
environmental health, legal,
enforcement, children’s services,
climate change and green spaces.
This Group is looking at how officers
from various departments across the
Council can act to ensure that
existing Hot Food Takeaway
businesses operate as responsibly
as possible. As well as utilising all
the options already available to us,
the Group will also consider new,
innovative ways of tackling the
broader issues raised by too many
takeaways. This suggestion will be
considered and presented to the
No Change
C Umutt General Individual Also if the takeaway shops fail to keep standards of
hygiene the council set ie. Fail inspection on more
than one occasion they should lose their right to
trade.
group Food Services conduct regular
inspections of all food premises and
where essential hygiene standards
are not met, premises are required
to close down until the situation has
been rectified.
No Change
E. A. Earle General Individual Also no eating in the street. This will stop rats when
they drop the waste in the roads.. Make it a law.
Fine any one that eats anything in the street.
Council are not considering banning
eating in the street at this point in
time.
No Change
Alison Reeves General Individual Alternative kinds of hot food with limited packaging
would be ok, but not this boxed type. Huge litter
problems maybe more bins outside?
Noted. The SPD contains a
requirement for provision of litter
bins.
No Change
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s.
e Cor or te teering rou
Arthure Allen
Vickery
General Individual Any further applications for hot food takeaways
should be refused unless a shop closes. Restrict
late opening
Noted. Council are not considering
at this stage to refuse
No Change
Jamie Reid General Individual As I'm a resident of Leucha Rd off St James St I
am particularly affected by the high concentrations
of cheap tacky, ugly take-aways. Which often are
the cause of most of the waste that litters the street
(disgusting)!
Noted. Your feedback provides
essential support for the policy and
re-emphasises the importance of the
measures proposed.
No Change
Terrence
Laurel
General DIAL As long as they are clean and well managed no
problem.
Noted. No Change
Candice
Dwight
General Headteacher,
Tom Hood
Community
Science College
As the headteacher of a Waltham Forest
Secondary School, it is important to encourage
healthy eating policies in schools when there is a
proliferation of 'fast food' takeaways so close to the
school. We do not allow most pupils out of school
at lunchtimes (years 7-10) but they can purchase
from such takeaways before and after school. We
cannot control this.
Noted. Council through its Hot Food
Tak away p a S G p
are looking at developing a co-
ordinated strategy for the
management of issues relating to
Hot Food Takeaway Shops such as
promotion of healthy eating habits.
No Change
Lea Jerman General Individual At Chingford the number of takeaways has
proliferated at the expense of the 2 veg and once
procer that were there before. This makes choice in
buying locally much more difficult.
Noted. Your feedback provides
essential support for the policy and
re-emphasises the importance of the
measures proposed. Further to the
SPD, the Local Development
Framework will outline Council's
intensions regarding providing a well
balanced mix of uses throughout the
Borough and maximising choice.
No Change
Joan Fracttue General Individual At long last! Support noted No Change
Angela Stollar General Individual Ban them all. It seems every other shop in
Walthamstow and Highams Park is a takeaway.
Destroying peoples health and ability to make
healthier choices.
Noted. The SPD will seek to control
the further proliferation of Hot Food
Takeaways in the Borough,
No Change
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de e o ed n es onse to
the boro h o nci are not eekin
o
e
Dorothy
Bowers
General Individual Be careful not to act as Big Brother, there are lots
of people including children that enjoy takeaways
Noted. The SPD has been
v l p i r p community
feedback that there are too many in
ug , C u l s g
to take them all away rather are
seeking to ensure the ongoing
vitality and viability of our Town
Centres and retail strips by
managing the proliferation of a
particular use type that is known to
produce adverse community
impacts. It is considered that there
are an adequate supply of Hot Food
Takeaway Shops within the Borough
to satisfy consumer demand.
No Change
Derek White General Individual Be positive! 1. Teach about Healthy Eating in the
school curriculum and assemblies, 2. Run
information sessions for parents, 3. Support shops
selling healthy food
Council have recently established a
HFT Steering Group which consider
new, innovative ways of tackling the
broader issues raised by too many
takeaways. Food and health
education are a key agenda item as
investigating opportunity for
enhancing access to healthy food
ption.
No Change
E. Galsworthy General CRUK Chingford has too many places to eat, also betting
shops and grocers spreading out onto pavements.
Noted. No Change
M Roach General Individual Cluster of fast-food takeaways lower the standard
and quality of life in the area. These areas generat
large amounts of rubbish. The majority of these
establishments sell the same food hence there is
no need for so many of them.
Support noted. Your feedback
provides essential support for the
policy and re-emphasises the
importance of the measures
proposed.
No Change
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on entrations and l sters of takeaways o prev
ha e ood systems in place to deal ith smells an
e
e
A Brown General Individual Clusters may be better than having them spread
out. It would help EHO's to spend them more
frequently. Takeaways need to sell food in a way
that does not make an easy food for rats, foxes and
mice
Council consider that from current
examples within the Borough
clustering of Hot Food Takeaways
are not desired.
No Change
Mrs Vickie
Bevan
General Food in Schools
Programme
Manager VT
Education and
Skills
Dear Sir / Madam I am in favour of the proposal to
tighten the rules on all planning applications for
new hot food takeaways to help: o prevent high
c c c u ent
them locating near schools youth facilities parks
and residential properties o resist proposals that
would cause an unacceptable risk of crime and
antisocial behaviour o ensure they don't have an
unacceptable impact on road safety o ensure they
v g w d
waste o ensure they provide litter bins o ensure
they are accessible for all especially wheelchair
users The high concentration of fast food
takeaways in the borough goes against much of th
work the council Waltham Forest NHS and partner
organisations are involved in to improve the health
of the population. They contribute to the promotion
of an obesogenic environment in the borough
which is concerneing bearing in mind that Waltham
Forest has the 7th highest levels of obesity
amongst Year 6 pupils in London (2007 NCMP). In
order to reverse this trend we need to make healthi
Support noted. Your feedback
provides essential support for the
policy and re-emphasises the
importance of the measures
proposed. Council through its Hot
Food Takeaway Corporate Steering
Group are looking at developing a co
ordinated strategy for the
management of issues relating to the
management of existing Hot Food
Takeaway Shops as well as food
and health education.
No Change
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G.O Goddard General Individual Dear Sir, I would like to inform you that this
requirement came directly from the presence of
God. God said to the first man: Adam, in the sweat
of your face shalt thou eat bread till thou return
unto the ground; for out of it was thou taken; for
dust thou art and unto dust shall thou return. Gen
3:19. When God made rules for Adam, he had
already given him a wife. We are living in a
dispensation in which people do not want to get
married very often. HOT FOOD WHICH IS BEING
served in public has become a substitute for a
single person who has not got a wife to do it for
him.
Noted. No Change
A.Thomas General Individual Disagrees with Follow the rule of law and common
sense ethics when assessing.
Noted. No Change
Anonymous General Individual Disagrees with Q2. Like most shops, if takeaways
were located in residential areas it might prevent a
lot of people driving to them. St James Street and
Mark House Road could be used in a DVLA hazard
perception video because of the number of cars
doing u- turns and driving without indicating after
collecting takeaways.
Noted. No Change
Raymond
Swingten
General Individual Don't let them take over closed businesses just
because the premises are empty. They need to be
where there is an existing foot fall, not aim to
create one. Especially where there are good
restaurants.
The SPD seeks to ensure that future
Planning Applications for Hot Food
Takeaways are only permitted in
appropriate locations.
No Change
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Tom Whelan General Individual E-mail: Far more pernicious is squalid appearance
of the street due to care related businesses, veg
stall and general tat. Letter: Refer attachment.
Questionnaire: Why should takeaways, other
trades that ply their wares on main roads e.g.
Leyton High Rd have undoubtedly impacted the
streetsand pavements. To me the solutions are
clear to improve the Borough: Higher rates for
untide shops 'encourage' and attract entrepeneurs
and policing. We want Town Centres to be nice
and pleasant. Clyde Loakes my thoughts and
sentiments for ten years.
Support noted. No Change
Richard
Ashman
General Individual Even if a proposal for a new hot food takeaway
shop met the requirements planned as above, I
think an additional legislation limiting the overall
number
Council have considered this and
will not be placing a limit on the
overall number of establishments at
this point in time.
No Change
Neil Taylor General Individual Excellent idea. Support noted. No Change
Jane
McCormick
General Individual Excellent idea. I suuport it 100 per sent. I would
have responded to the consultation before but the
way it was set out on your website was
unbelievably difficult to follow. So I gave up trying!
Support Noted No Change
John Mass General Individual Extraction systems must have proper filters and be
regularly cleaned. Planning conditions should
specify this if consent is granted.
Noted. Planning conditions will be
incorporated into planning
permissions to ensure suitable
installation and maintenance of
extraction systems is undertaken.
No Change
K.S. Gilbert General Individual Far too many fast food outlets. Seem as if council
would rather give a food licence than let shops lay
empty. Mess, smell and crowds around
restaurants.
Support noted No Change
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Fay
Scantlebury
General Individual Far too many take aways and cheap cafes, offering
a sub-standard product - should not be allowed to
open next to residential properties. Priority has to
be given to retail, with not more than 1/3 erties
Support noted. No Change
Colin Pridmore General Individual Far too many takeaways in all our shopping areas
in Waltham Forest.
Noted No Change
Chief Mrs Rose
E Dgidi
General African Heritage
& Welfare Trust
For health; healthy eating; responsibility to ones
own needs; generall behaviour - etc etc - it is better
you keep a close and careful "eye" on all these 'hot
food shopts'. The less permission for more of them
the better.
-
Council have recently established a
HFT Steering Group which pulls
together Officers from across the
Council. This Group is looking at
how officers from various
departments across the Council can
act to ensure that existing Hot Food
Takeaway businesses operate as
responsibly as possible.
No Change
Maureen
Reardon
General Headteacher -
South Grove
Primary
Fully support Council's proposal to tighten the
rules.
Support noted No Change
Katy Andrew General Individual Given a chance I'd close them all down!! The main
problem with takeaways is the sheer amount of
waste generated; most of the packaging is
unrecyclable, much is discarded as litter. Food
waste is thrown in streets and attracts rats and
other vermin. Check out how Munich deals with
fast food takeaways - they and their packaging are
TAXE, littering fines and eating on buses fines
need to be enforced not ignored.
Noted. Council have recently
established a HFT Steering Group
which pulls together Officers from
across the Council. This Group is
looking at how officers from various
departments across the Council can
act to ensure that existing Hot Food
Takeaway businesses operate as
responsibly as possible. The
Envirocrime campaign is currently
targeting litter throughout the
Borough.
No Change
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p p
p p
a eady n the o ough to ade uate
Hart General Individual Hatch Lane is a prime example for youth gathering
late evenings.
Noted. No Change
Pouneeta
Mahadco
General Children and
Young Peoples
Services
Hot Food Takeaway Shops should be set up only if
they are of high quality/standards - healthy food
and hygiene to very high standards.
Noted. No Change
Resident General Individual Hot Food Takeaways often stand out due to their
poor signage and shopfront design. Their visual
impact could be reduced by seeking high quality
materials and detail to shopfronts and removing
bulky internally illuminated signage. Flues should
also be more carefully sited and designed... large
shiny flues should be avoided... these could be an
internally/boxed in or painted to minimise their
act.
Noted. The SPD contains specific
requirements for flues to be of a
colour, finish and design to be
consistent with the existing urban
fabric. Shop front design is covered
in Council's SPGN8 Shopfront
Design Guide.
No Change
Robert. O.
Frimpong-
Mahso
General Ghana Welfare
Association
I 100% agree hot food takeaway shops should not
be encouraged.
Support noted. Your feedback
provides essential support for the
policy and re-emphasises the
importance of the measures
ro osed.
No Change
D.Hollingswort
h
General Individual I agree with all the above and hope that once in
place the above rules would be implemented
thoroughly and consistently.
Support noted. Your feedback
provides essential support for the
policy and re-emphasises the
importance of the measures
ro osed.
No Change
N. Tiratsoo General Individual I agree with all the statements and strongly - but
they are very loaded, and so can hardly be called
'consultation in any meaningful sense. Some
people use takeaways, and presumeably like them.
What efforts are you making to factor in their
views?
Noted. It is considered that there are
enough Hot Food Takeway Shops
lr i B r q ly
service the community. The SPD
does not propose to close any
existing lawful Hot Food Takeaway
Shops.
No Change
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Hester de
Graag
General Individual I agree with the proposal and would wish it go that
little bit further. The quality of the take aways is of
such poor standard that I think it is a risk to our
health. The take away restaurants around
Blackhorse Road do not give any choice as they
are all bad in quality. I would say it is quality not
uantit that count
Council are in the process of
developing strategies for the
enhanced management of existing
HFT's, which will seek to incorporate
measures to enhance the quality of
food served, hygiene and cooking
processes.
No Change
M.W. Stanton General Individual I agree. In my mind there are too many takeaways
though I suppose there is a demand that keeps
them all in business. All above 5 points important.
Support noted. Your feedback
provides essential support for the
policy and re-emphasises the
importance of the measures
proposed
No Change
Lynette Pams General Kelmscott
School
I am both a resident and an employee within
Waltham Forest and I am very concerned about the
number of fast food outlets. I observe large
numbers of my own students eating chips etc at the
end of school,. Sometimes they do not spend
money on school lunch but save it for 3pm
meaning they go all day without proper food. I
agree whole heartedly also with the proposals to
stop takeaways close to schools. I also suggest
they should not be allowed to open at times close
to the end of school.
Support noted. Your feedback
provides essential support for the
policies and re-emphasises the
importance of the measures
proposed. Council will investigate
the opportunity for further limiting
opening hours.
No Change
Mrs Okoye General Davies Lane
Primary
I am in full suppport Support noted. No Change
Sue Lakeman General Leyton Sixth
Form College
I am strongly in facour of using planning legislation
to restrict fast food outlets.
Support noted No Change
Mrs D Godfrey General Individual I fully agree with what the council propose. Take-
aways should pay extra for the rubbish that is
dropped nearb .
Support noted No Change
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Anonymous General Individual I have a concern that wherever these shops are
located they will be near to either schools, parks or
residential properties - unless they are sited in the
middle of, for example and industrial estate in
which case they would all have to be in a cluster,.
Although the statement above are worthy I cannot
see how they can all be workable. 3 & 4 are down
to the behaviour of the people who use the shops,
not the location of the shop.
Noted. Test HFT5 only applies to
proposal which fall outside
designated town centre and local
parade locations. Applications for
Hot Food Takeaways within Town
Centres will be subject to Tests HFT
1 and HFT2. It is a primary concern
of council to protect residential
amenity, where this is not possible
Hot Food Takeaway Shops are not
considered appropriate.
No Change
Claire
Toberman
General Row Hall School I see so many children coming out of our local
secondary schools eating chicken and chips on the
street, then throwing the boxes on the street and
and causing litter and rat problems. There's also
the obesity problem. It would be so much easier to
control if these premises were located away from
schools.
Support noted. Your feedback
provides essential support for the
policies and re-emphasises the
importance of the measures
proposed.
No Change
Mr K Webb
(Chairman)
General Higham Park
Horticultural
Society
I speak as a resident of the area and am apalled at
the existing high number of Hot food takeaways
already serving the local community. Groups of
schoolchildren block the pavements when leaving
school and waiting to enter these premises. And
litter is also a bi roblem.
Noted. No Change
ms sue
lakeman
General principal Leyton
Sixth Form
College
I strongly support the local authority's attempt to
use planning legislation to restrict the
establishment of new additional fast food outlets
particularly in the vicinity of schools and colleges.
Support noted. No Change
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Alan J Palmer General Building
Surveyor
I think all takeaways should be made to provide
recepticals for rubbish and a penalty system
operated when excessive rubbish is produced is
not cleaned up.
Council have recently established a
HFT Steering Group which pulls
together Officers from across the
Council. This Group is looking at
how officers from various
departments across the Council can
act to ensure that existing Hot Food
Takeaway businesses operate as
responsibly as possible, litter and
waste management are key agenda
items.
No Change
Tim Bennett-
Goodman
General Individual I think the proliferation of such outlets in our
borough is deplorable and any measures to check
it are welcome. I would go further and not allow
school/college students off-campus in lunch
breaks. That might stifle business at source.
Support noted. Council have recentl
established a HFT Steering Group
which consider new, innovative
ways of tackling the broader issues
raised by too many takeaways.
Council are aware of some local
schools that do not allow their
students off campus during breaks
and with further investigate the
effectiveness of this policy with a
view to encouraging other schools to
follow suit if proving a success in
curbing demand for Hot Food
Takeaways.
No Change
Mr E Adams General Individual I think there are far too many in the Borough Support noted. No Change
L. Holt General Individual I think there are too many food takeaway shops
now - too many 'grocers' shops as well. No variety!
Support noted. Your feedback
provides essential support for the
policy and re-emphasises the
importance of the measures
ro osed.
No Change
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Majorie Offord General Chapel End
Svoy Players
I think this should have been thought about some
time ago. There are already far too many fast food
takeaways and the detritus left behind by
thoughtless patrons is attracting a huge amount of
foxes and rats to the area. We regularly have foxes
in our gardens and had to contact environmental
services to remove a rat from our garden this
summer.
Support noted. No Change
Sabrina
Pudaruta
General Individual I think we do have a lot of Take-Away and
restaurants in Waltham Forest. Also, too many
Grocery Shop close by. E.g. in Chingford Mount.
Sainsbury's are local, but the amount of ''Food &
Take aways'' shop are unbelievable round the area
"Hazard to Kids"
Support noted. No Change
Sandra
Macphee
General Individual I very much hope the Council will tighten the rules
for planning applicartions for Hot Food Takeaway
shops in the Borough. They give rise to litter in the
surrounding area and the food sold is not very goo
for people's health. I have read the draft
supplementary document - "Hot Food Takeaway
Shops" and the accompanying Sustainability
Appraisal.
Council have recently established a
HFT Steering Group which consider
new, innovative ways of tackling the
broader issues raised by too many
takeaways. Food and health
education are a key agenda item as
investigating opportunity for
enhancing access to healthy food
option.
No Change
C.Mahoney General Individual I very much support all the above. HFT's also
contribute to the truly shocking amount of
contianers and litter around the borough, at bus
stops etc.
Support noted. No Change
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ounci are acti e throu h the
o po ate Stee n o p seek
Ms. E.A.Day General Individual I wish you had the legal power to close all the
existing shops as well. They are a major cause of
obesity amoung the young, in paticular, and litter
from their users. Even though McDonalds, at least,
tries to limit the litter by placing bins outside its
premises
Council have recently established a
HFT Steering Group which pulls
together Officers from across the
Council, including planning,
regeneration, housing, policy and
performance, trading standards,
environmental health, legal,
enforcement, children’s services,
climate change and green spaces.
This Group is looking at how officers
from various departments across the
Council can act to ensure that
existing Hot Food Takeaway
businesses operate as responsibly
as possible. As well as utilising all
the options already available to us,
the Group will also consider new,
innovative ways of tackling the
broader issues raised by too many
takeaways. This will help to
ameloriate the issues and concerns
No Change
Amy Hoare General St Saviours
Co/E
I wonder how an increased number of fast food
premises will help in lowering the obesity rates in
our young people and children.
raisedIt is considered that it won't, thus the
C l v ly g SPD
and Hot Food Takeaway Shops
C r r ri g Gr u ing to
manage the proliferation of these
outlets.
No Change
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poor health prospects or altham orest residents
e
Cor or t t rin
Ms Victoria
Morgan
General Individual I work in Leytonstone and notice that the quality of
food on offer for me to buy at lunchtimes is very
poor. There are a huge number of food outlets but
very few offer good quality food served in clean
hygienic premises. I notice a lot of school children
eating very poor quality food at lunchtimes
(paticulalry fried chicken/chips) as a healthservices
employee this makes me very concerned about the
f W F
as these children grow up and pass their bad food
habits down to their children. We have a
responsibility to help people make good food
choices one way to do this is make healthy food th
norm and seriously restrict the availability of poor
quality food.
Council through its Hot Food
Takeaway p a e S ee g Group
are looking at developing a co-
ordinated strategy for the
management of issues relating to the
management of existing Hot Food
Takeaway Shops as well as food
and health education.
No Change
Mr David Isted General Individual I would have thought this should have been done
already! If not theshould be instergated forthwith.
(The people who are cooking) Are they required to
have a personal food health and safety certificate?
(A food hygen cert) If not the should be required to
have one.
Noted. All food premises are
required by law to register with the
Waltham Forest Food and Safety
Section.
No Change
I Woodford General Individual I would like myself some more craft shops and
knitting shops, we only have 2 knitting and 1 craft
shop.
The new Local Development
Framework which is currently in
progress will provide strategies for
improving the diversity of retail
offerings within town centres and
within key shopping strips.
No Change
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e Cor or te teering rou
Sue Burton General Individual I'd like the Council to limit the total number of
takeaways - we already have enough! No more
should be allowed to open unless an existing one is
closing down.
Noted. However, given the ever
changing population and economic
environments it is not considered
appropriate to put a figure on the
number permitted because it would
require constant adjustment with
varying conditions. The SPD has
been designed to ensure that they
are only approved in appropriate
locations that do not impact on
residential amenity, contribute to
over concentration or clustering of
premises.
No Change
Ros Newnham General Individual I'm especially concerned about the concentration o
'fast food' takeaways - chicken and chips, pizza
places - e.g. in Highams Park and litter they
generate in the street. Not concerned with the
location of indian and chinese takeaways - this
does not seem to be much of a problem. Think
more could be done in schools to educate young
people about the link between litter and rats - a
joined up strategy with education department.
Noted. Council through its Hot Food
Tak away p a S G p
are looking at developing a co-
ordinated strategy for the
management of issues relating to the
management of existing Hot Food
Takeaway Shops as well as food
and health education.
No Change
Neil Stewart General Individual In a free society, the banning of the sale of legal
food stuffs is wrong. I shop at Walthamstow
Farmers Market most Sundays and dislike most
fast food. But banning these shops is wrong.
The SPD does not propose to ban
Hot Food Takaway Shops rather it
seeks to ensure that they are only
approved in appropriate locations.
No Change
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h ere so an a o ed to be estab ished in
p
Rosemary
Fitchett
General Chapel End
Junior
In school we work to promote healthy eating. The
availability of fast food in the borough does not
support 'Healthy Eating'. On the one hand we gain
business rates from such outlets - on the other we
pay high levels of health care!
Noted. It is recognised that the
proliferation of Hot Food Takeaway
Shops does not support health
eating programs, the SPD seeks to
curb the further proliferation of
outlets. Council through its HFT's
Steering Group are seeking to
develop a holistic strategy for the
management of these shops and the
wider impacts they have on health
with a view to potentially supporting
and linking in existing programs.
No Change
Festo Okidi General African Families
Moot
Association
(AMOOT)
May be more needs to be done by the Council in
understanding why ' hot food takeaway shops' are
growing in the area, in the first place. It is possible
that we may be searching for ways of treating the
symptoms, which does not help when the causes
are left at large.
Council have recently established a
HFT Steering Group which pulls
together Officers from across the
Council, including planning,
regeneration, housing, policy and
performance, trading standards,
environmental health, legal,
enforcement, children’s services,
climate change and green spaces.
This Group is looking at how officers
from various departments across the
Council can act to ensure that
existing Hot Food Takeaway
businesses operate as responsibly
as possible. Demand management
will also be an agenda item.
No Change
D.A.Harding General College
Operatic
Society,
Walthamstow
Most decisions appear to be taken in hindsight.
W y w m y ll w l the
first place? We have lost all our useful shops by
bad planning by the council.
Council are now taking a pro-active
approach to the issue through the
development of this SPD and the
establishment of a corporate
steering grou .
No Change
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ea s that it fails the re uire e ts of re ulatio
Ray Miller General Individual My concern is that if we don't allow fast food shopd
what will the shops be used for? Will they remain
empty? Will the concil lose revenue? Is it better to
have these shops as a necessary evil or nothing at
all?
The new Local Development
Framework will propose policies for
ensuring a well balanced mix or
uses within town centres and retail
parades. Council will seek to
encourage a range of uses to
occupy empty shops and will resist
the proliferation of a particular use
across the Borough.
No Change
John Peach Test HFT3 KFC (GB)
Limited
We object to Test HFT3 of the draft SPD, because
there is no planning policy basis for the test and no
objective evidence for any spatial link between the
incidence of obesity and the proxomity of hot food
takeaways to schools, parks or youth facilities. This
m n q m n g n 13
(8) (c) of the Town and Country Planning (Local
Development) (England) Regulations 2004 (as
amended) and so renders the whole draft SPD,
much of which we agree with, open to challenge.
Feedback from local headteachers
suggest that Hot Food takeaway
shops located within close proximity
are frequented by school children.
This is supported by studies from
London Metropolitan University that
reveal the role of the 'school fringe'-
food outlets close to their school - in
the diet of secondary students. 97%
of pupils who were allowed out at
lunchtime purchased food on the
fringe. Further to this, the research
found that food bought by school
children in 'fringe' shops provided at
least 23% of their daily energy
requirement, and was often high in
fat or sugar. Three out of ten
purchases were made in takeaways
and were generally hot food such as
chips, chicken or pizza. Broadly
speaking, the fat content of
purchases from takeaways was high
(average of 42g of fat per purchase).
The average fat content of a £1.00
portion of chips was 53.2g well over
half the amount of fat a child of this
age should be eating in a whole day.
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ordinated strategies to tack
premises. ighlights the importance or a arie
John Peach General KFC (GB)
Limited
The draft SPD seeks through the spatial plannning
system objectives more appropriately and
effectively pursued through health and nutrition
policy (indeed, the only basis cited is a Department
of Health document). We have no policy of siting
restaurants or hot food takeaways near schools,
parks and youth facilities and no intention of
developing any such policy, but remain committed
to the continual improvement of our menu, in line
with the recent Food Standards Agency
Commitments made by us.
Noted. Council are adopting a joined
up approach to all service provision
and are seeking through co-
le the key
issues surrounding Hot Food
Takeaways which cross over into
areas also covered by health and
nutrition policies and consider that
this policy is a key way Planning
policy can respond to the issue.
No Change
John Peach General KFC (GB)
Limited
Indeed, the Council's own Sustainability Appraisal
states at paragraph 4.7 that the benefits of Test
HFT3 could be expected to be 'minor' or 'neglible'.
In spatial terms, we consider there is a clearer link
between obesity and lack of access to open space,
sport and recreation, which could be positively
promoted through the Core Strategy. Focussing
planning resources towards this instead would
ultimately be more productive in providinng rather
than removing choices on healthy lifestyles and
would bring forward rather than delay useful policy.
Noted. The Core Strategy will
provide guidance on Council's
strategic aims in relation to the
provision of open space and access
to sport and recreation facilities
which enable residents to pursue
healthy lifestyles.
Stephanie
Smith
General Individual Agrees with proposals. Has noticed premises
targeting school children with cheap 'student
offers'. Provides suggestions for on-site lunchtime
policies in schools. Comments on litter generated
by H f v ty
of eateries to suit all budgets.
Support noted. No Change
GVA Grimley
on Behalf of
McDonalds UK
General McDonalds UK Refer Attachment. Refer attachment 1 for detailed
response.
Some Changes.
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g p
Javiera
Maturana
General London
Development
Agency
Highlights the importance of a robust evidence
base and effective monitoring. Provides
suggestions for including business support and
looking at role street markets can play in providing
healthy food choices.
Council through its Hot Food
Takeaway p a e S ee g Group
are looking at developing a co-
ordinated strategy for the
management of issues relating to the
management of existing Hot Food
Takeaway Shops as well as food
and health education. These
suggestions will be presented to the
rou .
No Change
Ms Georgina
Wald
General Corporate
Communication
s Manager
Domino's Pizza
UK & IRL plc
success isnt something Antony takes for granted
he remains with his feet firmly on the ground and
has a very hands on approach to running his
stores. As part of this Antony is incredibly active in
the local community supporting a vast range of
schools groups and organisations in the area in
which his stores are based. This year Antony and
the teams from his stores have been working hard
with six local schools to raise much needed funds
for PE equipment and classroom aides. Everyone
from the stores is involved in the fundraising
activities which include selling fresh pizza by the
slice at the fetes with proceeds donated directly to
the schools. The Dominos stores in Chingford
Woodford Green and Borehamwood helped to
organise summer fetes for Parkside Summerwood
Woodbridge Thorpe Hall Chase Lane Primary and
Longshaw Primary schools. Just under £1 000 was
raised from the summer fetes and at the Thorpe
Hall school fete alone the team helped set a
personal record by raising almost £400 in one
afternoon. Following the success during the
summer the stores are now helping Chase Lane Pri
Noted. Council recognise that Hot
Food Takeaways can provide an
important complementary service in
Town Centres when located and
managed appropriately and provide
contribute to the local economy and
create employment opportunities.
No Change
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p
rther g idan e on the develop ent
Ms Georgina
Wald
General Corporate
Communication
s Manager
Domino's Pizza
UK & IRL plc
Every new store that we open creates between 25
and 30 full and part-time jobs and with the potential
for a total of 1 000 stores in the future this equates
to many thousands of new jobs being created.
Environmental Impact Dominos Pizza sells freshly-
baked hot food. There is neither a requirement for
deep-frying nor for any forms of cooking other than
baking in a gas-fired conveyor oven. Therefore
smells and cooking odours are more akin to those
generated by a small bakery. Our stores have a
design and specification package that meets all
legal requirements for supply and exhaust
ventilation. Air extracted from above the ovens is
fully filtered and the Dominos standard equipment
specification includes a requirement that filters be
cleaned frequently. Opening Hours and Traffic We
seek where possible to operate standard opening
hours for all of its stores and the typical closing
time is 2300hrs. There are of course some units
that operate different hours but these are usually in
non-residential areas where other outlets are also
trading after 2300hrs. Dominos home delivery focu
Noted. Council recognise that Hot
Food Takeaways can provide an
important complementary service in
Town Centres when located and
managed appropriately and provide
contribute to the local economy and
create employment opportunities.
No Change
David
Shenfield
HFT2 Individual Clusters of takeaways mean one location for
people to go to. They then have choice. These
clusters are like food courts in shopping centres.
Also can provide an easily monitored location
which attract youth to a public place and thus be
easier to police. Future unplanned clusters should
be prevented but existing clusters perhaps
develo es as 'Town Squares'.
Noted. The Town Centre policies
within the Core Strategy will provide
fu u c m
of town centre activity nodes.
No Change
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rubbish from foo outlets an saw a whole famil of
Richard Carr HFT4 TfL HFT4 – Highway Safety
Short-term parking activity in the vicinity of hot food
takeaways can have a negative impact on bus
operation and accessibility. Customers are often
tempted to park at bus stops (within the clearway
section and/or on approach and exit sides) and
prevent buses from stopping close and parallel to
the kerb, rendering the stop inaccessible because
the ramp cannot be deployed. Test HFT4 refers to
proximity to bus bays but this should be extended
to all bus stops including those on carriageway.
The text in 4.17 should also be amended to reflect
this.
The availability of safe and legal loading areas in
close proximity should also be taken into account.
This can help to reduce conflicts on congested
parts of the highway. A shortened version of a
Delivery and Servicing Plan should be a
requirement for all applications for hot food
takeaway shops.
Noted. Amend Test HFT4 to include
proximity to bus stops.
Gail Smart HFT5 FARA Preventing location near residential areas
penalises those who use these facilities
responsibly. I am ambivalent about this issue as I
never use takeaway shops myself but am pro-
choice for consumers. I have been aware of lots of
d d y
them this week.
It is considered that there is already
market saturation of accessible Hot
Food Takeaway Shops within the
Borough, the SPD is seeking to
manage the further proliferation of
outlets that may be detrimental in
certain areas.
No Change
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t
outside the desi ated ro ta es a d tertiar o
Gary Grange
JP
HFT9 Individual All fast food takeaways should be required to
clean their frontage (pavement directly outside
their shop) at least once a day All fast food
takeaways should have to provide seating to allow
people to eat within the outlet All fast food
takeaway's should be required to ensure a
200yard parameter of their shop is free of litter
that has come from their outle
The SPD contains a requirement for
premises to keep the area outside
clean and tidy.
No Change
MR RICHARD
UNWIN
Tesdt
HFT10
sole principal
RICHARD
UWNIN
CHARTERED
SURVEYORS
In Test HFT10 we would comment that local
authorities have control over the issue of premises
licences for hot food shops after 23.00 and this is
the most suitable instrument in dealing with any
anti-social behaviour.
Noted. No Change
G.Nevill Test HFT 9 Individual Make outlets responsible for the litter within a
radius of their location, much of which is generated
from themselves if not by themselves I.e. their
thoughless customers.
Council have recently established a
HFT Steering Group which consider
new, innovative ways of tackling the
broader issues raised by too many
takeaways. Liiter is a key agenda
item, Council are currently
investigating the scope for greater
responsibility for businesses for liiter
generation.
No Change
MR RICHARD
UNWIN
Test HFT1 sole principal
RICHARD
UWNIN
CHARTERED
SURVEYORS
I would comment on the tests set out in the
proposed SDP as follows: CRITERIA Test HTF1 -
Over concentration The restriction of 5% within
primary secondary and retail parade zones is such
a minimal percentage as to prohibit any further
planning permissions being granted under the
policy. We are unaware of any local authority that
imposes such a low threshold as 5%. The areas
gn f n g n y z nes
are to be subject to no more than 1 A5 unit being
allowed within 400 m of an existing A5 unit. The
practical result will be to discriminate against A5
units within the Use Classes .
The 5% threshold was developed as
an appropriate percentage of the
total amount of non-retail uses
permitted within retail strips (30%)
considering that allocation for non-
retail uses must incorporate use
types A2, A3 and A4 as well, with a
view to maximising choice and
availability of services and shops for
residents.
No Change
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p
e
as
Robert Gay Test HFT1 Individual Outside designated centres and in areas within the
town centre not designated for retail use, no more
than one Hot Food Takeaway allowed within
400 metres of an existing one.' Why not just, none
allowed within 400 metres -- or at least none which
is like Macdonalds or KFC, selling food which
people might eat on the street (Indian or Chinese
takeaways are not so objectionable because Indian
or Chinese meals basically have to be takenhome
and eaten off plates with knives and forks)
It is considered that the existing
wording provides greater clarity than
the proposed wording. The SPD is
places restrictions on a particular
Use Class, A5 and does not provide
distinction of different types of A5 as
there is limited reasonable
justification for this and has potential
to be considered
favouring/disadvantaging particular
types of A5 uses. The SPD has been
developed in response to a
community identified need to curb
No Change
MR RICHARD
UNWIN
Test HFT11 sole principal
RICHARD
UWNIN
CHARTERED
SURVEYORS
Test HFT11 Accessibility is controlled by clearly
defined legislation and does not require further
comment. In conclusion we believe that at the next
consultation stage the implications of adopting this
policy are analysed carefully and a detailed
res onse undertaken.
the further proliferation of A5 typeNot d. No Change
MR RICHARD
UNWIN
Test HFT2 sole principal
RICHARD
UWNIN
CHARTERED
SURVEYORS
Test HFT2 Clustering This would appear to be a
distinctly different test but is not clearly defined
geographically and in local plan terms where these
unit are likely to be located. The phrase in areas
where the residential character predominates is too
vague. It is stated in 4.9 that the tests are in line
with PPG 6 but this related to town centre locations
exclusively.
Test HFT1 applies to Town Centres,
Neighbourhood Centres and Local
Retail Parades whereas HFT2
applies Borough wide (including
centres and parades) and seeks to
ensure no further clustering of
premises is permitted through
ensuring sufficient separation is
provided between shops. It is
considered that the wording of this
sentence sufficiently communicates
that protecting residential amenity is
a key priorty in residential areas.
PPG6 is considered relevant the
No Change
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o ndar ts e a it is do tf as it is not e a
e
p
MR RICHARD
UNWIN
Test HFT3 sole principal
RICHARD
UWNIN
CHARTERED
SURVEYORS
Test HFT3 Would libraries and swimming pools
gyms and other community facilities fall under the
ban church halls etc where there are dance or
karate classes near childrens acting and dance
studio (often located on the upper floors of retail
parades)? The test is totally flawed and cannot be
supported in planning law. We cannot see the
purpose of preventing the location of A5 units near
parks resulting in creating a zone where a certain
activity is prohibited. The situation will immediately
be complicated in attempting to calculate the zone
at a consistent distance of 400m from the park
b u y. I l g l y ub ul l g lly a
ground of refusal that a use is not allowed within a
specified area and it would still need to be
demonstrated that there were sound planning
grounds to refuse in any specific instance. It is
further stated that evidence shows that more and
more hot food takeaway operators are choosing
locations within easy walking distance of schools.
We are unaware of any evidence to this effect.
Whilst it is accepted that pricing and competition ar
The SPD does not provide a
comprehensive list of what
constitutes a youth facility but are
comfortable to enable common
sense to prevail in the assessment
of an application based on its
proximity to any facility that is
frequented by youth and the
potential for adverse impacts. The
SPD and associated corporate
strategy is considered to be an
example of integrated policy work
and a joined up process for tackling
a variety of community issues
through innovative use of planning
controls based on potential
community impacts of proposed
uses. Also it was considered that
litter from Takeaways was being
discarded in parks so by limiting the
number of premises within close
proximity would potentially reduce
the environmental impacts on parks.
The 400m restriction is explained in
note 3 on page 15 of the SPD and
actually rovides a reduced distance
No Change
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teerin rou hich is loo in
y
highway offi er who is te h i a y ua ified to re o
the issues o residential a enit being sub e ti e
ill e assessed in terms of otentia
Anonymous Test HFT3 Individual Make all existing hot food takeways move 1/2 mile
away from any school or youth centre or only allow
opening after 5.30pm
Council are not considering
relocation, nor placing further
restrictions on existing premises.
Council have recently established a
HFT S g G p w k g
at how officers from various
departments across the Council can
act to ensure that existing Hot Food
Takeaway businesses operate as
responsibly as possible. As well as
utilising all the options already
available to us, the Group will also
consider new, innovative ways of
tackling the broader issues raised by
too many takeaways.
No Change
Anonymous Test HFT3 Individual Make existing ones move 1 mile from nearest
school
Council are not considering
relocation of existing premise as this
would be beyond its remit as a
planning authorit .
No Change
MR RICHARD
UNWIN
Test HFT4 sole principal
RICHARD
UWNIN
CHARTERED
SURVEYORS
Test HFT4 Highway Safety We would note with
regard to highway safety that this is judged by the
c c n c ll q l p rt
on these issues and will take into account the
merits of each individual application.
Noted No Change
MR RICHARD
UNWIN
Test HFT5 sole principal
RICHARD
UWNIN
CHARTERED
SURVEYORS
the proposed SDP is simply replicating the
traditional guidelines. It should also be noted that
f m y j c v in
nature requires substantial specialist evidence
which assists technical officers in coming to a
decision.
Noted. Issues of residential amenity
w b p l
impacts of noise, vibration, odours,
traffic disturbance, litter and hours of
operation.
Test HFT5 amended to include
further clarification of impacts on
residential amenity considered.
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ted
MR RICHARD
UNWIN
TEST HFT5 sole principal
RICHARD
UWNIN
CHARTERED
SURVEYORS
Test HFT5 Protection of Residential Amenity
Where a unit of residential occupation exists in
close proximity to the proposed hot food takeaway
planning permission will not usually be granted.
This also applies to applications for the change of
use of existing commercial premises to hot food
take-aways. There are several claims that seem
capable of being substantiated e.g. the assertion
that extract and ventilation equipment is never fully
effective (this is to some extend refuted in the
section dedicated to Test HFT7).
Although extraction and ventilation
systems may be effective in
removing them smells from shops
they do not stop the odours from
permeating into adjacent residential
properties and impacting on
reasonable amenity. Therefore, this
will be an important consideration in
assessment of applications. Test
HFT7 is specifically relating to the
function of the extraction and
ventilation systems in terms of
removing smells and odours from
within shops rather than this test
which is relating to the impact of the
output of the systems on the
No Change
MR RICHARD
UNWIN
Test HFT8 sole principal
RICHARD
UWNIN
CHARTERED
We believe that disposal of waste products is
common sense and no one would resist the
proposals made in Test HFT8.
immediate environmentNo No Change
MR RICHARD
UNWIN
Test HFT9 sole principal
RICHARD
UWNIN
CHARTERED
SURVEYORS
Similarly the question of litter is Test HFT9 is one
that responsible operators would heed.
Noted No Change
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Barbara De
Lissandri
Individual welcome the council's proposals to tighten the
rules regarding takeaway shops. There a far too
many in the borough, one after another in some
streets. They encourage people, especially young
people, to eat 'on the go' and not particularly
healthy food either. The appearance of too many
takeways makes the area look run down, shabby
and aggravates the huge litter problems of the
borough. Even the presence of litter bins in the
vicinity may not help because many clients of
takeaways eat walking along the road and discard
the containers on the ground further away (very
often down my road!!). I hope I don't sound too
grumpy or anti young people in these comments,
but many areass of Waltham Forest need a facelift.
I have lived near the Bakers Arms for 33 years and
feel sad that some parts are so dirty and scruffy.
So please limit the number and density of
takeaways and tighten the rules regarding litter,
smells etc too.
Support noted. Your feedback
provides essential support for the
policy and re-emphasises the
importance of the measures
proposed.
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PART 2: Schedule of responses to McDonald’s Submission – ‘Detailed Comments’
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Introduction
Paragraph 2.6
Table 2.1 provides examples of shop types falling within the A5 class, which would therefore be subject to the policy tests contained within the SPD. Whilst the SPD recognises that the list is ‘not exhaustive’, the table refers to ‘drive through premises’ as being an example of an A5 use class. This example is inaccurate. Drive through premises will not always fall within the A5 use class. McDonalds drive through restaurants generally operate as either an A3 restaurant with ancillary takeaway use, or as a mixed A3/A5 use. Customers have the option of arriving at the restaurant by varying means of transport, and either sitting down within the restaurant to consume their meal, or alternatively using the drive thru facility to take the food home, or use the car park to consume the meal. There are a number of examples of restaurants nationally which benefit from a planning permission for either an A3 use with drive through facility, or as a mixed A3/A5 use.
Deletion of Drive Through premises from Table 2.1.
The Council does not consider that an application by McDonalds for an A3 restaurant with ancillary takeaway use would be accepted as such. It would be considered to be an A3/A5 use and therefore the A5 element would be subject to the SPD. Where an application for an A3 only use is made, the Council will consider this on its merits. However, an A3/A5 mixed use application will be considered against the tests in the SPD as it will have A5 issues to address.
None.
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Paragraph 2.18
“Where high concentrations occur in town centres, they can pose a serious threat to local economic vitality and viability”. This statement does not recognise the positive impacts of A5 uses on the vitality and viability of centres and the local economy, such as the creation of jobs and training for local people.
Amend wording of paragraph to reflect that there can be impacts but also positive benefits that will need to be carefully assessed when determining applications.
Noted. However, the issue the SPD has been developed to mitigate is the proliferation of A5 uses that is evident within the Borough. The proliferation of A5 uses conflicts with the Council’s vision for Waltham Forest, which includes revitalised and intelligently planned public spaces, healthy eating options and a thriving retail offer. It is considered that transforming our town centres and high streets will in turn attract private investment and development whilst giving residents a reason to spend locally (supporting two key objectives of the Sustainable Community Strategy for creating and retaining wealth within the Borough).
No Change.
Paragraph 2.17 to 2.20
Concerns are expressed over the cleanliness of the streets in the Borough, however, in reality the operation of hot food takeaways can minimise the impacts of litter, when they are operated appropriately. McDonalds undertakes regular litter picks in the vicinity of its restaurants, including litter, which has not been generated by the restaurant, and also provides bins and anti-littering signage. In addition, at its drive thru restaurants, McDonalds provides sufficient on-site parking so as to avoid any off-site parking issues.
The Council welcomes the responsible approach some A5 businesses take to litter picking. However, a recent Keep Britain Tidy (KBT) survey found 25% of English streets littered with fast food rubbish, up from 16% in 2002. Surveyors for the organisation spent two days observing fast food litter in 10 locations across England. Branded litter from McDonald's made up 29% of all litter spotted in the survey. (Source: www.bbc.co.uk ‘Fast Food shops must
No Change
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fight litter’ Tuesday, 13 January 2009) Further to this, as evidenced by community responses to the consultation litter from Hot Food Takeaway Shops is a significant issue throughout the Borough.
Paragraph 2.21
Refers to the Government Strategy ‘Healthy Weight, Healthy Lives: A Cross Government Strategy for England’ (Jan 2008). This strategy is used as a key piece of evidence supporting the approach taken within the SPD. However, the Strategy seeks to address issues of health and obesity in a whole manner of ways (such as designing places to encourage walking, use of stairs and access to recreational facilities), and recognises the need for personal choice for the individual in making decisions. A number of the ‘tests’ contained within the SPD represent a disproportionate response to the Strategy, which in any event, does not represent planning guidance.
Deletion or rewording of Tests HFT1 to HFT3 as outlined below.
The SPD was initially developed in response to community concerns regarding the proliferation of Hot Food Takeaway Shops throughout the Borough and the impact they are having on the look and feel of the Borough. The government strategy seeks to address issues of health and obesity in a variety of ways, the suggestion to utilise planning guidance to manage the proliferation of shops within close proximity to schools and parks was a key influence in the development of HFT Test 3 and was considered to be the appropriate response from a spatial planning perspective in terms of tackling the issue of health and obesity within the Borough.
No Change
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As evidenced by the consultation responses, this test received a large degree of support from local Head Teachers who felt that the proliferation of Hot Food Takeaway shops within close proximity to schools was impacting on children health and conflicting with school programmes to encourage healthy eating habits. The SPD is considered to be only one element of a Council wide strategy to address the wider issues associated with Hot Food Takeaways. Council have recently established a HFT Steering Group which pulls together Officers from across the Council, including planning, regeneration, housing, policy and performance, trading standards, environmental health, legal, enforcement, children’s services, climate change and green spaces. This Group is looking at how officers from various departments across the Council can act to ensure that existing Hot Food Takeaway businesses operate as responsibly as possible. As well as utilising all the options already available
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to us, the Group will also consider new, innovative ways of tackling the broader issues raised by takeaways. This may incorporate several of the other recommendations from the government strategy as well as suggestions from local people. It is recognised that the government strategy does not constitute official planning guidance but it does provide an indication of significant government priorities in respect of tackling issues of health and obesity. The SPD is seeking to align with current local, regional and national government priorities.
Paragraph 3.10
The contribution of the proposed use to the vitality and viability of frontages and centres as a whole is considered to be the most important consideration. Where proposals meet the locational criterion these policies, other site specific details will be considered as outlined within the SPD. We support this approach, but consider that this should be emphasised throughout the SPD. The SPD as currently drafted prevents A5 uses locating both within centres and outside of centres, and does not therefore recognise the contribution to vitality and viability
Support. Recognition within SPD of contribution to Centres.
Noted. The SPD recognises that due to recent proliferation some areas of the borough have already reached a point where it is considered that no further Hot Food Takeaways are likely to be favourably considered against the locational criteria posed in the Tests. As previously stated the proliferation of Hot Food Takeaway Shops is considered to have an impact on the local economic vitality and viability and the overall future vision for Waltham
No Change
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that A5 uses can make.
Forest to attract investment and retain local spending. The Council accepts that some A5 units can add to the viability and vitality of town centres but too many can have an adverse impact.
Test HFT1 – Over Concentration
Whilst the first part of the test might be reasonable, the approach to concentrations of A5 Uses provides additional criteria above and beyond that contained within the UDP. There is no justification for the 5% threshold for A5 Uses in a Primary or Secondary frontage, or a retail parade. The threshold contained within the UDP policy is up to 30% non-retail uses, which we suggest is a more appropriate threshold for non-retail uses, and which has been considered by an independent inspector at the Inquiry into the UDP. Furthermore, there should be a distinction between Primary frontages and Secondary frontages, in accordance with the recognition in PPS6 (Annex H, Table 2), that Secondary frontages provide greater opportunities for a diversity of uses. The restriction of no more than 1 A5 unit within 400m of an existing A5 unit. Furthermore this restriction serves no purpose in achieving the purpose of the test, which seeks to
We request the deletion of the second part of the test, which sets out thresholds for A5 uses within Primary, Secondary and Retail parade zones and tertiary zones and outside designated centres. The first part of the test, alongside existing policies TRL5 and TRL6, are sufficient to assist in the consideration be given to the impact of proposals on centres or parades.
The 5% threshold gives further clarification of the UDP policy and was developed as an appropriate percentage of the total amount of non-retail uses permitted within retail strips (30%) considering that allocation for non-retail uses must incorporate use types A2, A3 and A4 as well, with a view to maximising choice and availability of services and shops for residents.
No Change
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avoid an over concentration of A5 Uses to the detriment of the vitality and viability of a centre or retail parade in respect of its reference to “outside designated centres”. The restrictions for the various frontages and zones also conflict with guidance contained within PPS6, and the UDP. Both PPS 6 and the UDP seek to direct town centre uses (including hot food takeaways) to Centres. A 400m exclusion zone around existing A5 units will prevent the development of A5 uses in many of the existing centres.
Test HFT2 – Clustering
The test states that in the relevant frontage, permission will only be granted where no more than 2 A5 units are located adjacent to each other, and there should be at least two non-A5 units between individual or groups of hot food takeaways. There is no justification for the criteria identified within the test, particularly with regard to noise and disturbance. Para 4.3 identifies that increased numbers of customers around A5 uses can lead to disturbance. In our opinion, whether disturbance is created or not will largely be a matter of the successful management of premises, and the nature of the operations. McDonalds has specific approaches to being a ‘considerate neighbour’, including signage, (please keep quiet when leaving the premises notices), management approaches and the use of CCTV cameras where deemed necessary. Noise Surveys
Deletion of test, and substitute for ‘considerations’ in paragraph 4.6 instead.
Mc Donalds’ management of premises is noted and applauded. However, evidence from local Police identify that many existing Hot Food Takeaway Shops have been know to attract anti-social behaviour and encourage gathering adjacent to stores. The dispersal of stores is considered to be an appropriate measure to reduce the likelihood for concentrations of people in such locations. Protection of residential amenity is a key consideration for Council in the assessment of planning applications for Hot Food Takeaway Shops and will be analysed on a case-by-case basis. Noted. ‘In the relevant frontage’ has
Delete ‘In the relevant frontage’.
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can be used to consider the level of impact with regard to noise. McDonalds is viewed as a family restaurant and should any form of anti-social behaviour arise, suitable security measures are deployed to ensure a safe family trading environment. Furthermore, the drive through encourages people not to leave their vehicle, thus avoiding opening and closing of car doors. McDonalds also has a large number of stores which operate successfully within 50 metres of residential properties. A sample of these properties are listed at Appendix 3 to this report. It is unclear what “the relevant frontage” is in the test –does this refer to retail frontage in town centres? If so, this conflicts with para 4.2 which refers to clusters both within and outside designated centres, and also refers to impact on residential amenity. The policy test conflicts with test HFT1 which states that no A5 unit be allowed within 400 metres of an existing A5 unit.
been deleted as this test applies Borough wide to all frontages.
Paragraph 4.1
Support recognition that hot food takeaway offer a popular service and have a significant role within town centres.
Support.
Noted.
No Change.
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Paragraph 4.6
What is the role of the two considerations labelled a + b? Do they form part of the Test? Is criteria a) supportive of proposals for A5 uses (the only A5 use in the area)? What geographical distance is “the area”? We suggest that a + b are a more appropriate way of assessing clustering than the rigid and inflexible criteria within the test, which specify that ‘no more than 2 A5 units should be located adjacent to each other’, and ‘at least 2 non - A5 units should be located between individual or groups of units’. The test at present does not accord with the presumption in favour of development, and do not provide a way of assessing applications based on their own individual merits.
Use considerations a + b as a substitute for the current test criteria.
A + b have been included as a guide to applicants as to the type of considerations Council will evaluate in terms of maintaining a balanced and diverse mix of uses throughout the Borough. Accept. The potentially ambiguous reference has been deleted from the document. The test has been developed in the context of local issues of proliferation of A5 uses and seeks to ensure that an environment is created that supports an appropriate mix of uses to be maintained throughout the Borough. Limiting the clustering of premises is also considered to reduce potential for crime and anti-social behaviour hot spots. The Council through the LDF Core Strategy is looking to encourage a more balanced and diverse mix of uses to be developed throughout the Borough to ensure the long-term economic and social sustainability of the area.
Delete (only one in the area).
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Paragraph 4.8
Refers to frontages across the Borough where “this saturation point” has been reached, and concludes that no more A5 uses will be permitted in these locations. What saturation point is the text referring to? .
Delete Paragraph
Accept comment. The saturation point the paragraph is referring to is 5% of the frontage in Primary, Secondary and Retail Parade Zones, or one within 400m of another within Tertiary zones and outside designated centres.
None
Paragraph 4.9
The paragraph states that Test HFT2 supplements UDP policies and PPS 6. We do not consider that the test accords with UDP policies or PPS6, given that PPS6 directs town centre uses to designated centres and applies a sequential approach to the location of such uses. The proposed test is a blunt instrument that fails to recognise the requirements of Policy TRL3 (which directs non retail and leisure uses to centres where the proposal does not by itself, or cumulatively impact on the vitality or viability of a centre). The existing UDP policy approach is sufficient, by way of criteria ‘C’ of the policy, which controls the over concentration of A5 uses where it impacts upon the vitality and viability of a centre (rather than a blanket restriction). The existing policies of the UDP – TRL5, TRL3, TRL6, TRL7, TRL8, TRL9, TRL10 TRL12 are sufficient in terms of providing a policy framework from which to determine applications for hot food takeaway, in terms of an over concentration of uses.
Deletion of Test HFT2 and paragraph 4.9
It is recognised that PPS6 does direct town centre uses to designated centres, it also states that where frontages are identified the appropriate local development documents should include policies that make clear which uses will be permitted in such locations. PPS6 states that Town centre strategies can play an important and complementary role in ensuring the continued vitality and viability of centres. A diversity of uses in centres makes an important contribution to their vitality and viability. Given the proliferation of Hot Food Takeaway Shops within existing Town Centres in the Borough and the perceived impact they are having on the vitality and viability of centres in terms of impinging on the diversity and
None
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choice of offering it is considered that the SPD is in line with the guidance of PPS6 to specify what uses will be permitted in certain locations and circumstances. It is anticipated that the SPD will also compliment the emerging LDF Core Strategy policies developed to ensure a well balance mix of uses and improved town centre offer is developed. Further to this PPS6 states that “different but complementary uses, during the day and in the evening, can reinforce each other, making town centres more attractive to local residents, shoppers and visitors. Local planning authorities should encourage diversification of uses in the town centre as a whole, and ensure that tourism, leisure and cultural activities, which appeal to a wide range of age and social groups, are dispersed throughout the centre. Local planning authorities should prepare planning policies to help manage the evening and night-time economy in appropriate centres. These policies should encourage a range of complementary evening and night-time economy uses
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which appeal to a wide range of age and social groups, ensuring that provision is made where appropriate for a range of leisure, cultural and tourism activities such as cinemas, theatres, restaurants, public houses, bars, nightclubs and cafes. “ Therefore, it is considered that the management of the proliferation of A5 uses throughout the Borough as proposed in the SPD will have a positive impact on the night time economy as well and is in accordance with the intent of PPS6.
Test HFT3 and Paragraphs 4.10 to 4.12
Paragraph 4.10 refers to the document “Healthy Weight, Healthy Lives: A Cross Government Strategy for England. The SPD recognises that the primary approach to promoting healthier communities is through promoting healthier food choices. The strategy recognises that maintaining a healthy weight must be the responsibility of individuals first, by giving people the opportunities they want and information they need to make healthy choices.
Agree. The SPD aims to create town centres that give local people choice in their retail and eating experiences.
No Change.
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Comments Proposed Change (by GVA Grimley)
Council Officer Response Proposed Changes to document
The SPD fails to recognise the importance of choice which is inherent to the entire strategy, and also the fact that hot food takeaways can provide healthy options, and information to assist people in making choices. In particular, the executive summary of the Government Strategy refers to the promotion of flexibilities contained in this planning regulations, so local planning authorities can manage the proliferation of fast food outlets in particular areas. The strategy does not require the prevention of any hot food takeaways within any specific geographical area. Furthermore, Page 13 states that “success will not lie in a “heavy handed approach” and not by dictating what people should eat. Page 17 recognises that some caterers/retailers have been very active in encouraging healthy eating. Paragraph 4.11 of the SPD makes the assumption that there are “known adverse impacts of A5 uses on community health. However, there is no part of the ‘Healthy Weight Strategy’ that supports this statement, or robust evidence source. Whilst Page 18 of the Strategy recognises that the prevalence of fast food restaurants and takeaways in local neighbourhoods can contribute to availability of foods high in fat, salt and sugar, the objective is to carefully control the prevalence of fast food restaurants and takeaways. The test misinterprets this statement, by placing a blanket
Additional text referring to flexibilities in the planning process. Deletion of “known adverse impacts” Refer to Appendix 2.
One purpose of the SPD is to maximise opportunity for choice and diversity of access to a range of shopping, services and facilities within Town Centres by ensuring a variety of uses may be provided. The management of the proliferation of particular use types is a primary concern of local people. It is considered that there are already enough Hot Food Takeaway Shops within most areas to enable residents access to this type of food if desired. It is recognised that some Hot Food Takeaway Shops offer ‘healthy options’ and information to assist people in making choices on menu items. However influencing menu options is not a requirement of the SPD and the Council will be looking at encouraging this through the corporate strategy for ensuring existing shops are managed appropriately. The Healthy Weight Strategy suggests using planning regulations to manage the proliferation of fast food outlets and
No Change.
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Comments Proposed Change (by GVA Grimley)
Council Officer Response Proposed Changes to document
restriction on any hot food takeaways within 400 metres of a park, school or other ‘youth centred facility’. The 400 m figure is arbitrary and inflexible. There is also no clarification of what a youth facility may comprise. There is no ability within the test to consider the individual merits of each planning application. The test is so restrictive as to prevent the development of A5 uses across much of the Borough, which is exacerbated when coupled with the tests contained in HFT2 and HFT1.
the proposal to restrict them locating near schools and parks has received overwhelming support from the community, head teachers and health industry as evidenced in the consultation responses for the SPD. Waltham Forest has high rates of childhood obesity and it is considered that by restricting the future availability of Hot Food Takeaways within close proximity (10 mins walking distance) to schools, parks and youth facilities will help reduce the level of temptation for over consumption of Hot Food Takeaways and would reduce competition with healthy eating programs in schools. The SPD and associated corporate strategy is considered to be an example of integrated policy work and a joined up process for tackling a variety of community issues through innovative use of planning controls based on potential community impacts of proposed uses. Also it was considered that litter from Takeaways was being discarded in
Para/Policy Reference
Comments Proposed Change (by GVA Grimley)
Council Officer Response Proposed Changes to document
parks so by limiting the number of premises within close proximity would potentially reduce the environmental impacts on parks. The 400m restriction is explained in note 3 on page 15 of the SPD. The SPD does not provide a comprehensive list of what constitutes a youth facility but are comfortable to enable common sense to prevail in the assessment of an application based on its proximity to any facility that is frequented predominantly by youth and the potential for adverse impacts. The test is only applicable to proposals outside designated town centre and local parade locations.
Paragraph 4.11
Refers to evidence showing that more and more hot food operators are choosing locations within easy walking distance of schools – what is the supporting evidence for this statement, and how does it justify Test HFT3? We are not aware that the Council has undertaken any sieve mapping exercise to consider the extent to which A5 uses would be ‘excluded’ from Waltham Forest. We
Delete Test HFT3 and Paragraph
Noted. The mapping analysis undertaken provides evidence of a large number of A5 uses are located within close proximity to schools. The Council is aware of the geographical implications of the policy and considers this to be an acceptable
Amend to ‘Evidence shows that an increasing number of hot food takeaway shops are operating within easy walking distance to schools’
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enclose a drawing at Appendix 2 which demonstrates that should test HFT3 be adopted, A5 takeaway uses would be excluded from the majority of the Borough of Waltham Forest. This approach is wholly contrary to PPS1, PPS6 and the presumption in favour of development. It is not based upon any robust assessment or evidence base. The Government Strategy ‘Healthy Weight’ does not support blanket restrictions on A5 uses, and we would also argue that there is no basis for the statement that fast food outlets increase children’s exposure to ‘poor quality foods’. Indeed, ‘Healthy Weight’ recognises that Government will work with industry stakeholders to finalise a Healthy Food Code of Practice, which demonstrates that A5 uses are able to provide healthier choices. Page 17 of the Strategy states that some manufacturers, retailers and caterers have been very active in encouraging healthier eating. McDonalds has a corporate approach to enable customers to make food choices, as identified in the main body of the report, including a number of commitments which are supported by the Food Standards Agency (FSA). There is no recognition of the above within the SPD, and the proposed test HFT3 is a wholly disproportionate response to which assumption are not based on any robust evidence base, and directly conflict with national
Delete reference to exposure to poor quality foods. Appendix 1 Deletion of Test HFT3.
approach to the policy. A5 units are not to be excluded from Waltham Forest. However, additional Hot Food Takeaway Shops will be discouraged from areas considered to be inappropriate. The SPD is not considered to be contrary to PPS1 or PPS6 and supports the development of A5 uses where considered appropriate. Noted. Section 4.11 has been amended. The Council is currently investigating opportunities to work in partnership with existing Hot Food Takeaway Shops influencing menu options through food education programs and encouraging outlets to make nutritional information available to customers.
Amend 4.11 to Their low prices coupled with close proximity to schools provide added incentive and temptation to children increasing the likelihood of over consumption of food that is often a disproportionate amount of their daily nutritional requirements.’
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government guidance contained within PPS1, PPS6 and emerging PPS4.
Paragraph 4.12
The SPD considers that for premises outside of centres/parades, permission will not usually be granted within a 10 minute walk from the boundary of schools, parks or youth facilities. We consider that a ’10 min walk’ or a distance in metres within which A5 uses will be excluded, is an inappropriate and inflexible way of managing hot food takeaways, that does not accord with the development plan, or national Government guidance.
Delete Test HFT3 and Paragraph
Noted. However National Planning Guidance supports the concentration of retail and non-retail uses within Town Centres, Test HFT3 relates specifically to proposal that fall outside designated town centre and local parade locations and is considered to further encourage the location of A5 uses in areas within town centres and parade where they meet Tests HFT1 & HFT2 of appropriateness. The test is considered to be an appropriate measure to safeguard our youth and parks from any potential adverse impacts by ensuring that the implications of such proposals are duly considered.
No Change.
Test HFT5 –
Protection of Residential Amenity
Para/Policy Reference
Comments Proposed Change (by GVA Grimley)
Council Officer Response Proposed Changes to document
Test HFT5 refers to the ‘close proximity’ of A5 units to residential properties, but there is no clarification of what constitutes ‘close proximity’. The wording of the test “will not usually be granted” does not accord with paragraphs 4.20 and 421 which both suggest that impacts on residential amenity will be a consideration in the determination of the application. We support this approach. We consider that it is inappropriate to adopt a ‘blanket approach’ to A5 uses in residential areas, particularly in light of the evidence attached at Appendix 2 which identifies a number of McDonalds restaurants which operate successfully within 50 metres of residential dwellings. The test does not make any allowance for empirical evidence which might be submitted in support of a planning application, or the use of Planning Conditions which might be attached to a permission. We suggest that each application should be considered on its individual merits, and that impacts on residential amenity should be a consideration in the determination of an application, judged on a case by case basis.
Reword Policy to indicate that units that are located within residential areas will be assessed against their potential impact on residential properties.
Accept . Amended accordingly.
Delete HFT 5 and insert Applications for hot food takeaway shops within close proximity to residential units will be refused where it is considered that there may be adverse impacts on residential amenity in terms of noise, vibrations, odours, traffic disturbance, litter or hours of operation as a result of the proposed premises. This also applies to application for the change of use of existing commercial premises to hot food takeaways.
Paragraph 4.22
The test suggests that ‘intolerable levels of disturbance to’ residents can be caused by takeaway uses. We suggest that impacts on residents will be a matter of fact and degree
We suggest deletion of ‘intolerable levels’
Noted. However, the sentence does not in any way imply that this is always the case. It does, however,
No Change.
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and specific to each individual case. We have identified, at Appendix 3, a list of sample restaurants which operate successfully near to residential properties.
acknowledge that this is an important consideration when assessing the application of new HFT.
Test HFT6
Hours of operation
Paragraph 4.24
The paragraph asserts that regardless of extraction equipment being installed, “it is almost impossible to fully eliminate the odours, … often such odours penetrate the fibre of buildings to the detriment of the occupiers of surrounding properties”. We wholly disagree with this assumption, and query the evidence for this statement.
We propose the deletion of the entire paragraph which is a matter of opinion, and not based upon any empirical evidence.
Noted. However, regardless of how effective an extraction system is for the purpose it is installed the system still emits odours into the environment that then can filter into adjoining residential properties and impact on reasonable enjoyment of amenity.
No Change.
Whilst we accept that guidance on acceptable hours of operation is useful we request the removal of “in predominantly residential areas, it is not likely that permission will be granted”, for the reasons outlined above in reference to Test HFT5.
Deletion of “in predominantly residential areas, it is not likely that permission will be granted”
Accept.
Sentence deleted.
Paragraph 4.26
We support the statement that when proposals are assessed, a range of site specific considerations will be taken into account.
Support
Noted.
No Change
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Council Officer Response Proposed Changes to document
Paragraph 4.27
The paragraph states that noise generated by A5 uses (cooking, customers, vehicles and other disturbance) can be difficult to control. We disagree with this statement, which does not reflect the fact that noise can often be controlled, and that impacts of noise can be assessed by the use of noise assessment.
Amend wording “The likelihood of increased incidences of noise generated by A5 uses shall be assessed when determining applications, and measures of control may be required as a condition attached to a planning permission”
Noted. However, the statement does not in anyway imply that it cannot be managed appropriately and this will be the responsibility of the applicant to demonstrate that it can.
No Change.
Paragraph 4.30
We request the deletion of the third bullet point which states that ‘it is not likely that permission will be granted’ in residential areas. This conflicts with 4.32 which concludes that in principle, the greater the residential character of an area, the greater the restrictions on opening times, and paragraph 4.33 whereby all applications will be considered on a site by site basis.
Delete 3rd bullet point.
Accept.
Deleted as requested.
Paragraph 4.33
We support the statement that all applications will be considered on a case-by-case basis, and request that this approach be adopted throughout the SPD.
Support
Noted.
No Change
Para/Policy Reference
Comments Proposed Change (by GVA Grimley)
Council Officer Response Proposed Changes to document
Test HFT7
Odours and Cooking Smells We support the additional guidance provided in relation to extraction systems. However, test HFT7 and supporting paragraphs 4.36 and 4.37 conflict with paragraph 4.24. Paragraphs 4.36 and 4.37 recognise that whilst cooking processes can cause amenity problems, an effective extraction system is required for the extraction of odours, and such equipment should ensure that there is no nuisance or disturbance to nearby properties. This is in direct conflict with paragraph 4.24 which states it is almost impossible to eliminate odours. We consider that effective extraction systems, as used by McDonalds in residential areas, are capable of preventing the release of unpleasant odours and grease.
We suggest that paragraphs 436 and 4.37 are appropriate, and that paragraph 4.24 should be deleted (refer to response to paragraph 4.24 above)
Noted. However, paragraph 4.24 is relating specifically to the impact of residual odours emanating into the environment from extraction systems and the associated impacts on residential amenity for properties adjacent to premises. Whereas, paragraphs 4.36 and 4.37 are relating to the need for an extraction system as natural ventilation is not enough to mitigate the potential impacts on surrounding residential areas. The systems are considered to be more effective than nothing, but it is acknowledged that residual odours still occur even with a fit for purpose system. These paragraphs provide guidance on the considerations for assessment of a system i.e. mitigating noise, odour and visual amenity impacts.
No Change
Response to Consideration of the General Approach and scope of the SPD It should be noted that although the SPD makes reference to the ‘Healthy Weight, Healthy Lives’ cross-governmental strategy it was not the sole influence in the development of the policy. The policy was developed in response to a community identified locally specific issues associated with the proliferation of Hot Food Takeaways, consultation revealed that this was also impacting on our children’s health. The strategy is considered to be a positive reflection of Central government’s intent for a co-ordinated approach to tackling health issues and the SPD an opportunity to make a contribution to a Borough wide health strategy. The policies developed are entirely consistent with the emerging Core Strategy as identified throughout the Issues and Options paper, specifically sections 3.4 and 7.4/7.5 which identify the need to manage the proliferation of Hot Food Takeaway Shops and to ensure a well balanced mix of uses/improved town centre offer. Although proposals may deliver benefits in terms of employment generation and contribute to the local economy, in the long term it is recognised that proliferation of a particular use within Town Centres may affect the vitality and viability of an area and reduce the opportunity to attract investment and retain local spending. The emerging Core Strategy will provide further guidance on Council’s priorities and intensions for encouraging a well balanced mix of uses in Town Centres. It is not considered that the SPD prevents the assessment of proposals on a case-by-case basis. In respect of planning for health Council are seeking to undertake a co-ordinated approach which integrates actions from land based health initiatives such as designing exercise into lifestyles through increasing access to Analysis of the relationship between SPD and the Adopted UDP The issues raised in 3.2 to 3.3 are addressed in the detailed comments schedule above. In relation to 3.4, we draw your attention to sections 4.53 and 4.54 of TRL5, which identify the extent to which the proposed use meets an important need and whether it is likely to contribute to the attractiveness of the centre. Although McDonalds generate high footfall, given the proliferation of Hot Food Takeaway Shops in Waltham Forest and high levels of community support for the management of their growth in the Borough, future proposals would need to demonstrate a further need for the use and ensure. It is considered that Tests HFT1 and HFT2 provide an adequate framework for these considerations. In particular Test HFT1 acknowledges that regard will be given to ‘the potential benefits of the proposal for the wider community’. Policy TRL7 indicates that other uses may be permitted subject to amenity and townscape issues and makes specific reference to uses such as small businesses, housing, offices and restaurants, community and leisure uses. Although A5 uses are not identified as being restricted they are not listed or encouraged either. Given the existing
situation in Waltham Forest, A5 uses are recognised as having the potential to adversely impact upon the vitality and viability of the Borough’s centres. Therefore the 400m threshold has been developed in response to a known issue in the Borough and provides further guidance to applicants as to when an A5 use may be considered appropriate. The role and impact of the proposed SPD The issues raised in this section are address in the Schedule of responses to the detailed comments provided above.