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War of the Forecasts: Model vs Project Dan Thomas, P.E. NCDOT - Transportation Planning Branch March 6, 2008 Tennessee Model Users Group
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War of the Forecasts:Model vs Project

Dan Thomas, P.E.NCDOT - Transportation Planning Branch

March 6, 2008

Tennessee Model Users Group

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Outline• Planning in North Carolina• Modeling in North Carolina

– Past– Present– Future

Role of consultants

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Outline• Project level forecasting

– Evolution– Process - handling– Procedure - technical

• Lessons learned

Role of consultants

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Transportation Planning• 78,000 miles of roads• Responsible for project forecasts• 17 MPOs

– 3 Regional models (9 MPOs)– 8 Individual models

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Transportation Planning• 20 RPOs

– Small Urban Plans– County Plans

• Transportation Planning Branch Organization

MountainsTES III

MetrolinaTES III

TriadTES III

Western TrafficForecastTES III

TriangleTES III

SoutheastTES III

NortheastTES III

Eastern TrafficForecastTES III

ModelTES III

SystemsTES III

TrafficSurveyTES III

Research &Development

TEM I

Western UnitTEM I

Eastern UnitTEM I

TechnicalServices

TEM I

BranchManager

TED I

Staff EngineerTSE III

AdminOfficer

AdminStaff

AdminStaff

AdminStaff

Asheville MPOTE III

Hickory MPOTE II

CTP StudiesTE II

CTP StudiesTE I

CTP StudiesTE I

Mecklenburg-Union MPO

TE III

Cabarrus-Rowan MPO

TE II

Gaston MPOTE II

CTP StudiesTE II

CTP StudiesTE II

CTP StudiesTE I

CTP StudiesTE I

Asheville MPOTE III

Asheville MPOTE III

Hickory MPOTE II

Hickory MPOTE II

Hickory MPOTE II

CTP StudiesTE I

TrafficForecasting

TE II

TrafficForecasting

TE II

TrafficForecasting

TE I

TrafficForecasting

TE I

TrafficForecasting

TE I

TrafficForecasting

TFM I

Capital AreaMPOTE III

Durham-Ch.Hill-Carrboro MPO

TE III

CTP StudiesTE II

CTP StudiesTE II

CTP StudiesTE I

CTP StudiesTE I

TechnicianTT III

FayettevilleMPOTE III

WilmingtonMPOTE II

JacksonvilleMPOTE II

GoldsboroMPOTE II

CTP StudiesTE I

CTP StudiesTE I

CTP StudiesTE I

MPO/RPOTE III

Rocky MountMPOTE II

GreenvilleMPOTE II

CTPStudies

TE II

CTP StudiesTE I

TechnicianTT II

CTP StudiesTE I

TrafficForecasting

TE II

TrafficForecasting

TE I

TrafficForecasting

TE I

TrafficForecasting

TE I

TrafficForecasting

TFM I

TrafficForecasting

TE I

Triad RegionalModeler

TE III

Triangle RegionalModeler

TE III

MetrolinaRegional Modeler

TE III

Model Research& Training

TE III

ModelingApplications

TE II

ModelingApplications

TE II

State TrafficForecast Eng.

TE III

OperationalStrategies Eng

TE III

AQ SpecialistTE III

AQ SpecialistTE III

CTP StudiesTE II

CTP StudiesTE I

See TSUOrg Chart

AdminStaff

ResearchEngineer.

TE III

ResearchEngineer

TE III

Research StaffEngineer

TE II

Research StaffEngineer

TE II

ResearchTechnician

TT IV

Librarian

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Travel Demand ModelingThe Past

• 70’s - 80’s– NCDOT - model expert– MPO - land use expert– TranPlan

• Into the 90’s – CHANGE WAS A COMIN’

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Changing TimesNationally

• ISTEA– more requirements– regular updates

• Air Quality conformity• Travel demand modeling

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Changing TimesNorth Carolina

• Planning staff spread thin• Project level traffic forecasts• High growth• Staff turnover…and over…and over

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Travel Demand ModelingThe Past

• Our models became stagnate– 100% S-E data survey– model drives planning schedule– 1st Regional model– 1 MPO had model that NCDOT could

not use– Travel Model Improvement Program

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Travel Demand ModelingThe Present

• TransCAD• Different types of models

– regional models– 4-step (minus mode split) models– hand allocation and trend line

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Travel Demand ModelingThe Future

• Different tool for different needs– regional models– standard 4-step models– quick response (under development)– manual allocation – trend line

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Forecasts Model vs Project

WHAT’S THE PROBLEM?&

(WHY) DO WE CARE?

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Project Level Traffic ForecastEvolution

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Project Level Traffic ForecastProcess

• Request is made• Communicate with Requestor• Official Review• Distribution

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Request is Made• Tracking

– status– assignment

• Coordinate with Groups– review work load– analysis tool (model)– project history

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Request is Made• Assignment

– Planning Group– Forecasting Group– Consultant

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Project Level Traffic ForecastProcess

• Request is made• Communicate with Requestor• Official Review• Distribution

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Communicate with Requestor• State Traffic Forecast Engineer• Forecaster

– bridge project 5 months– simple widening 6 months– major widening/new location > 6

months

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Project Level Traffic ForecastProcess

• Request is made• Communicate with Requestor• Official Review• Distribution

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Official ReviewInternal

State Traffic Forecast EngineerAND

Forecast Group to Planning GroupOR

Planning Group to Forecast Group

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Official ReviewPrivate Engineering Firm

State Traffic Forecast EngineerAND

Forecast GroupAND

Planning Group

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Project Level Traffic ForecastProcess

• Request is made• Communicate with Requestor• Official Review• Distribution

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Distribution• Requestor• Highway Design• Project Development and

Environmental Planning • Traffic Engineering• etc...

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Project Level Traffic ForecastProcedure

• Analysis tools and data• Scenarios• Documentation• Resolution of Issues

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Analysis Tools• Traffic Forecast Utility

– straight line– simple interest

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Analysis Tools• Travel Demand Model (beware of

mixing model output)

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Project Level Traffic ForecastProcedure

• Analysis tools and data• Scenarios• Documentation• Resolution of Issues

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Scenarios• Base year no-build *• Base year build• Future year no-build• Future year build *• Other alternatives

* Required Scenario

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Project Level Traffic ForecastProcedure

• Analysis tools and data• Scenarios• Documentation• Resolution of Issues

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DocumentationIf the goal were inconsistency - we would

win the gold!

• Planning Group - random • Forecast Group - better - standard

outline• Consultants - good - establishing

expectations and standards

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Project Level Traffic ForecastProcedure

• Analysis tools and data• Scenarios• Documentation• Resolution of Issues

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Resolution of Issues• State Traffic Forecast Engineer

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Model vs Project• Why are they different?

– assumptions– outputs– use

• Who cares?– public

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Model vs Project• What can we do?

– better labeling/education– documentation

• How is NCDOT doing?– getting better and heading in the

right direction

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Model & Project -Forecasts at Peace

Dan Thomas, P.E.NCDOT - Transportation Planning Branch919-715-5482 ext. [email protected]


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