Novena Beginning March 1, 2013, the first
day when the Chair of Peter will be
vacant, I encourage you to join in
this Worldwide Novena for the
Election of the Next Holy Father.
Please join Catholic brothers and
sisters the world over in the daily
praying the Novena Prayer below
(or any other prayer to the Holy
Spirit that you may prefer) that the
Holy Spirit may truly inspire the
hearts of the cardinals of the
conclave to choose the man that
Jesus wants to guide the Church at
this precise moment of human
history. This Conclave Novena
will end on the day the Church and
the world hears the words,
March 2013
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March Jokes 3
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Bishop With 150 Wives 6
Louis Pasteur 8
Inside this issue:
Praying for our Next Pope
“Habemus Papam!” (“We have a
Pope!”).
Conclave Novena Prayer:
Lord Jesus Christ, Son of the
Father, send down your Spirit over
the conclave. Let the Holy Spirit
inspire the hearts of the cardinals,
that they may choose the man most
pleasing to You, as Successor of
Peter and Your Vicar on
Earth. May Mary, Your Mother
and Mother of the Church, be our
Advocate. Amen.
Dr. Mark Miravalle,
Professor of Theology and Mariology
Adopt a Cardinal Greetings from Germany!
We wanted to inform you about an
initiative we started yesterday. We
made a homepage -
www.adoptacardinal.org
where you can "adopt" a cardinal to
pray for him the time before, during
and shortly after the conclave.
We are absolutely thrilled that we
have already more than 110,000
people praying with us.
This afternoon we went live
with the English version as well. So
if you want to join us in prayer this
would be most welcome! If you like
the initiative and the webpage we
would be delighted if you could
pass on the information.
Blessed John Paul II, please pray for us!
“Judge not, that you be not
judged” (Mt 7:1). When Jesus said
this he was giving us a real eye
opener off insight. It seems
whatever we do unto others comes
back to bless us or bite us. If we are
nice to others, they often return the
favour and even befriend us.
Conversely, if we are judgmental,
critical and fault-finding then we
fall into a different category which
Jesus, who loves us does not ever
want for us!
Because Jesus loves us so much he
admonished us; “For with the
judgment you pronounce you will
be judged, and with the measure
you use it will be measured to you.
Why do you see the speck that is in
your brother's eye, but do not
notice the log that is in your own
eye?” (Mt 7:2-5).
During Lent we are often more
concerned about going without
something pleasurable than we are
about avoiding other hurtful things.
It is true that too much sugar and
high living can be both deleterious
to our health and holiness when it
is overdone. Yet reigning in our
wayward pettiness can also be both
healthy and holy. There are not a
few vices that we might
concentrate on during Lent, but I
thought having a look at being
judgmental might be helpful.
It might surprise most people to
know that God made us to be
judging people. How then can it be
so wrong? But of course we are
wounded by Original Sin and that
should be enough said! Original sin
really did mess us up when it
comes to judging.
Humanly speaking we have several
discerning bodily faculties that are
judging 24/7. Our entire body is one
big judging organism. It judges hot
and cold and we act accordingly,
putting on a jumper or taking it off.
The food we eat is judged on the
palette as tasty or not. Our ears
judge harmony or cacophony;
melody or dissonance. It seems all
our five external senses are always
judging. It is a wholesome and
beautiful thing to know that the
body never lies. It always tells the
truth. It discerns rightly; it is God’s
gift to which is worth giving our
attention. Yet listening doesn’t
mean acting upon. I’d like another
serve of Pavlova and ice-cream with
my cup of black tea, but that doesn’t
make it a good judgment to follow.
We need to judge intelligently.
Then there are our four internal
senses. They really judge! Our
common sense faculty not only
brings all our senses together but
orders them according to
importance and immediate
necessity. It is an extraordinary and
mysterious judge. Memory
compares with previous
reminiscences to see which is best.
The sense faculty of cognitive
power has no other purpose than to
judge useful from harmful and as to
whether something is good for use
or just plain bad for us, as in the
case of judging if smelly meat might
be good for our stomach or not. It
not only estimates, it actually
calculates judgments and arrives at
important healthy conclusions that
then moves us to or away from
things throughout everyday life. In
fact we couldn’t be without this
faculty and survive. And over and
above these three important internal
senses is the imagination which
similar to memory not only
compares but also weighs up
cognitive judgments and after it is
finished actually presents its
conclusions as immaterial
phantasms for the spiritual soul
which we call our intellect. That’s
when the real; judging begins,
especially our conscience which
judges moral goodness and evil.
We live in our minds and our
judgments determine who we are
and how we act. Whether we are
people who are judgmental or
whether we are the people whom
Jesus wants us to be; namely,
spiritually discerning.
A judgmental person is the kind of
person who goes beyond
discerning differences in people's
abilities to making inferences
about their overall worthiness. To
a judgmental person, a singer is
inferior not just on the dimension
of singing, but is inferior on the
more fundamental dimension of
being human as well. The classic
example is Simon Cowell’s very
embarrassing pre-judgment of
Susan Boyle on Britain’s Got
Talent in 2009. Susan went on to
wow everyone; to God’s glory!
‘Those who are spiritual discern
all things, and they are themselves
subject to no one else's scrutiny.
"For who has known the mind of
the Lord so as to instruct him?"
But we have the mind of Christ’ [1
Cor 2:15-16].
‘Judge all things, but hold on to
whatever is good’ (1 Thes 5:21).
Fr Gerard
pastor’s page
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PAGE 3 THE WEST WAGGA WAG .
March Jokes Why do supermarkets make the
sick walk all the way to the back of
the store to get their prescriptions
while healthy people can buy
cigarettes at the front?
Why do people order double
cheeseburgers, large fries, and a
diet coke?
Why do banks leave vault doors
open and then chain the pens to the
counters?
Some guy knocked on my door
today and said, "I have a parcel for
your next door neighbour."
I said, "You've got the wrong house
then mate”
Paddy phones an ambulance
because his mate's been hit by a
car.
Paddy: 'Get an ambulance here
quick, he's bleeding from his nose
and ears and I tink both his legs are
broken.'
Operator: 'Your location sir?'
Paddy: 'Outside number 28
Eucalyptus Street .....'
'How do you spell that sir?'
Silence.... (heavy breathing) and
after a minute:
Operator: 'Are you there sir?'
More heavy breathing and another
minute later.
Operator: 'Sir, can you hear me?'
This goes on for another few
minutes until....
Operator: 'Sir, please answer me.
Can you still hear me?'
Paddy: 'Yes, sorry about dat... I
couldn't spell eucalyptus, so I just
dragged him round to number 3
Oak Street ...'
The Sunday School teacher was
describing how Lot's wife looked
back and turned into a pillar of salt,
when little Jason interrupted, 'My
Mommy looked back once while she
was driving,' he announced
triumphantly, 'and she turned into a
telephone pole!'
A wife says to her husband, "You're
always pushing me around and
talking behind my back."
He says, "What do you expect?
You're in a wheel chair!"
A Sunday school teacher was telling
her class the story of the Good
Samaritan. She asked the class, 'If
you saw a person lying on the
roadside, all wounded and bleeding,
what would you do?'
A thoughtful little girl broke the
hushed silence, 'I think I'd throw up.'
A Sunday school teacher asked,
'Johnny, do you think Noah did a lot
of fishing when he was on the Ark ?'
'No,' replied Johnny. 'How could he,
with just two worms.'
In a convent in Ireland , the 98-year-
old Mother Superior lay dying.
The nuns gathered around her bed
trying to make her last journey
comfortable.
They tried giving her warm milk to
drink but she refused it. One of the
nuns took the glass back to the
kitchen.
Then, remembering a bottle of Irish
Whiskey that had been received as a
gift the previous Christmas, she
opened it and poured a generous
amount into the warm milk.
Back at Mother Superior's bed, they
held the glass to her lips.
The frail nun drank a little, then a
little more and before they knew it,
she had finished the whole glass
down to the last drop.
As her eyes brightened, the nuns
thought it would be a good
opportunity to have one last talk
with their spiritual leader..."
Mother," the nuns asked earnestly,
"Please give us some of your
wisdom before you leave us." She
raised herself up in bed on one
elbow, looked at them and said:
""DON'T SELL THAT COW."
A man invites his mate back home
for dinner. The wife screams at him
"I've not done my hair, not done my
make up, not done any housework,
not done the dishes & can't be
bothered with cooking ! Why on
earth did you invite him round?"
"Cos he's thinking of getting
married "
It was time for the final and the
student was depending upon getting
at least one right answer on the
chemistry test.
The question was "If H2O is water,
what is H2O4?"
This was a quick question for most,
but it took the student some
thinking time.
Finally, he wrote down his answer:
For drinking, washing, and
cleaning.
A wife asks her husband,
"Could you please go shopping for
me and buy one carton of milk, And
if they have avocados, get 6."
A short time later the husband
comes back with 6 cartons of milk.
The wife asks him, "Why did you
buy 6 cartons of milk?"
He replied, "They had avocados."
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The Vocation Renaissance
Vianney College, Wagga Wagga,
was the first Australian seminary to
be reformed (in the early 1990s);
Brisbane the last, five years ago.
When Mgr. Anthony Randazzo
arrived from Rome at the beginning
of 2009 to become Rector of the
Holy Spirit Seminary, Banyo he
was greeted by a mere 4
seminarians! There was almost
nowhere to go, but up! Mgr.
Anthony has explained briefly that
happened over the next five years:
“I have just begun my fifth year as
Rector of the Holy Spirit Seminary
of Queensland. The growth of the
seminary in those five years has
been quite remarkable. In 2008, the
year before I began as Rector, there
were 4 seminarians. This year I am
pleased to say that there are 32,
including six First Years. The
seminary is full.
“It has been a rewarding time as I
have tried to foster a renewed
culture of Priesthood in the
Province. When I arrived as Rector,
the first action I took was to
introduce Eucharistic Adoration on
Thursday evenings. It has been
enthusiastically embraced by all of
the seminarians. The fruit of this
prayer is obvious, Deo gratias.
I am also personally grateful for the
support that I have received from so
many faithful Catholics. Above all,
the prayers of the Catholic people
have helped sustain the challenging
task of being responsible for such
an important ministry in the
Church.”
Canali House, Brisbane
The Director of Vocations in
Brisbane is Army Chaplain, Fr.
Morgan Batt, a mountaineer and
adventurer in his spare time. Fr
Morgan has developed a residential
experience of discernment towards
ordained priesthood at a former
presbytery at Herston, an inner
Brisbane suburb. This is called
Canali House, named after one of
As the year opens, the Good
Shepherd Seminary at Homebush
has 32 men in training, including
seven First Years. At the second
Sydney seminary, the Redemptoris
Mater at Chester Hill, there are 25
men preparing for the ordained
ministry, of whom four are joining
this year. Overall, 5 men from
both seminaries are preparing to be
ordained by later this year.
It is good that older Catholics
realize this as, in many areas, they
worship in ‘greying’ congregations
– with few if any younger people to
be seen. However, we can capture
this experience of rising seminary
numbers from another angle.
Normally, each August there is the
National Inter-Seminary Soccer
Tournament. Last year, Corpus
Christi Seminary, Melbourne
hosted over 200 young men from
the seminaries on the Australian
east coast at this annual event
which affirms their vocations and
gives the seminarians a sense of the
significant numbers of men
preparing for the priestly ministry.
In 2013, this event clashes with
World Youth Day, Rio de Janeiro ,
and will not be held as many
seminarians are going to Brazil for
the World Youth Day.
Meanwhile, in the Parramatta
diocese, at the Holy Spirit
Seminary in the suburb of St.
Mary’s there are twelve
seminarians, four of whom have
just entered to commence training.
Corpus Christi College,
Melbourne
The numbers are also encouraging
Brisbane ’s pioneering priests, Father
Joseph Canali.
Canali House enables young men to
explore their vocations while sharing
daily life with others testing the call.
Along with himself as Director, the
men share in meals, prayer,
Eucharist, pastoral work, sports and
household living while going around
their regular work often in tertiary
studies or working in the community.
At the end of their time residents will
make a commitment to enter Holy
Spirit Seminary, Banyo, continue
discerning, or explore other
vocational options.
In addition, Canali House welcomes
other men who are discerning their
vocations to a monthly forum called
“Consilium”. This forum is held on
the first Thursday of the month and
those attending share an evening of
Mass, a meal and a meeting. The
Archdiocese of Brisbane was a late
starter in a systematic search for
vocations; it is now a pace setter!
At the moment there are thirty-two
seminarians at Holy Spirit, Banyo
and of these six are First Years for
2013. Canali House has seven
residents in discernment.
Meanwhile, in Sydney,
Vocations Flourish
In fact, vocations are ‘on a roll’
around Australia , and all of the
seminaries report good numbers.
Since World Youth Day, Sydney,
2008, Cardinal George Pell has
ordained some 25 men for the
Archdiocese, from the Good
Shepherd Seminary at Homebush and
the Redemptoris Mater Seminary at
Chester Hill.
Australian Seminaries ...
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On the Tiwi Islands, north of
Darwin, where Fr Francis Gsell was
working, it was Tiwi custom for
girls to be promised in marriage to
older men, sometimes even before
they were born. Men were able to
have as many wives as they could
support.
Girls were usually handed over at
the age of 14. Fr Gsell accepted this
dispersed with a treasure trove
including blankets, flour, a knife,
an axe, tobacco and tins of meat
and Fr Gsell was left with a
vulnerable, relieved young woman
whom he had promised to look
after.
Martina was to become Fr Gsell’s
first “wife” and, once the news
spread, many families approached
the priest to accept more young
women into his custody, including
a four-day-old baby.
The girls were placed into the care
of Sisters who now lived in the
Mission and his “wives” numbered
150 by the time Fr Gsell left in
1938.
tradition and never
challenged it.
However, when a
young girl, Martina,
came to him with a
spear through her
leg and an angry
mob close behind,
he knew that he
could no longer be a cultural
bystander – Martina’s life depended
on what happened next.
In a moment of inspiration, Fr Gsell
approached the angry mob, including
the husband, and began long
deliberations that would change the
Tiwis’ marriage traditions from that
day on.
Eventually, the appeased mob
The Bishop with 150 Wives
at Corpus Christi College in
Melbourne . There are 52
seminarians in residence. Of these
52, there are 34 are preparing for
the Archdiocese of Melbourne, six
for Sandhurst ( Bendigo ) and five
for Sale . The remainder are from
other Australian dioceses and one is
from the Archdiocese of Hanoi ! In
fact, 8 men commenced training
this year; 6 from Melbourne and 1
each from Sale and Sandhurst .
There are also 3 men studying for
the ordained ministry at the North
American College in Rome and 2
deacons in Melbourne are awaiting
ordination to the priesthood later
this year.
Of course, the seminarians
throughout the country reflect the
changing face of multi-cultural
Australian Catholicism. Many
‘traditional’ Australians whose
family backgrounds are in Ireland ,
Britain or in Western Europe tend
to forget that immigration over the
last 20 years has brought increasing
numbers of Vietnamese, Filipinos,
south Asians and Africans to
Australia .
Many of these recent arrivals are
The enthusiasm for vocation is
reflected in the increased numbers
of young men seeking admission to
some Religious Orders and
Congregations
Father Tony Percy, Rector of the
Good Shepherd Seminary at
Homebush says that these
increasing numbers will gradually
address the challenge of the priest
shortage in Australia . There is
definitely a renewed interest in the
Church and in the priesthood,’ he
says. ‘World Youth Days in
Sydney 2008 and Madrid 2011
have helped.’ World Youth Day,
Rio de Janeiro , Brazil this year
should accelerate the trend.
Catholics – especially those from the
Philippines , Vietnam and south
Sudan . Hence, some young men of
Vietnamese, Filipino and African
background are in the seminaries!
Wagga Wagga
Meanwhile, there are another 23
seminarians at Vianney College , the
Diocesan seminary in Wagga, NSW.
Among the 23 are 6 young men who
commenced studies recently. At
Wagga, there are candidates from
Lismore and Armidale as well.
At St Charles Seminary in Perth ,
there are 20 men in training
including six who commenced
training this year. Five of the older
seminarians are studying in Rome .
At the Redemptoris Mater
(Neocatechumentate) Seminary also
in Perth , there are 17 students for the
priesthood, including four men who
commenced training recently.
At the second Perth seminary, the
Redemptoris Mater, Rector, Father
Michael Moore has eighteen men
preparing for the priesthood, of
whom four have just commenced
their preparation.
Blessed with Vocations!
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Effective immediately, please
be aware that there are changes you
need to make in your life. These
changes need to be completed in order
that I may fulfil my promises to you --
to grant you peace, joy and happiness
in this life. I apologize for any
inconvenience, but after all that I am
doing this seems very little to ask of
you. I know, I already gave you the 10
Commandments. Keep them. But
follow these guidelines, also.
1. QUIT WORRYING
Life has dealt you a blow and all you
do is sit and worry. Have you forgotten
that I am here to take all your burdens
and carry them for you? Or do you just
enjoy fretting over every little thing
that comes your way?
2. PUT IT ON THE LIST
Something needs to be done or taken
care of. Put it on the list. No, not
YOUR list. Put it on MY to-do list. Let
ME be the one to take care of the
problem. I can't help you until you turn
it over to me. And although my to-do-
list is long, I am after all, God. I can
take care of anything you put into my
hands. In fact, if the truth were ever
really known, I take care of a lot of
things for you that you never even
realize.
3. TRUST ME
Once you've given your burdens to me,
quit trying to take them back. Trust in
me. Have the faith that I will take care
of all your needs, your problems and
your trials. Problems with the kids?
Put them on my list. Problem with
finances? Put it on my list. Problems
much trouble just doing your simple
part. How hard can trust be?
7. SHARE
You were taught to share when you
were only two years old. When did you
forget? That rule still applies. Share
with those who are less fortunate than
you. Share your joy with those who
need encouragement. Share your
laughter with those who haven't heard
any in such a long time. Share your
tears with those who have forgotten
how to cry. Share your faith with those
who have none.
8. BE PATIENT
I managed to fix it so in just one
lifetime you could have so many
diverse experiences. You grow from a
child to an adult, have children, change
jobs many times, learn many trades,
travel to so many places, meet
thousands of people, and experience so
much. How can you be so impatient
then when it takes me a little longer
than you expect to handle something on
my to-do-list? Trust in my timing, for
my timing is perfect. Just because I
created the entire universe in only six
days, everyone thinks I should always
rush, rush, rush.
9. BE KIND
Be kind to others, for I love them just
as much as I love you. They may not
dress like you, or talk like you, or live
the same way you do, but I still love
you all. Please try to get along, for my
sake. I created each of you different in
some way. It would be too boring if
you were all identical. Please know I
love each of your differences.
with your emotional roller coaster? For
my sake, put it on my list. I want to
help you. All you have to do is ask.
4. LEAVE IT ALONE
Don't wake up one morning and say,
"Well, I'm feeling much stronger now,
I think I can handle it from here." Why
do you think you are feeling stronger
now? It's simple. You gave me your
burdens and I'm taking care of them. I
also renew your strength and cover you
in my peace. Don't you know that if I
give you these problems back, you will
be right back where you started? Leave
them with me and forget about them.
Just let me do my job.
5. TALK TO ME
I want you to forget a lot of things.
Forget what was making you crazy.
Forget the worry and the fretting
because you know I'm in control. But,
there's one thing I pray you never
forget. Please don't forget to talk
to me - OFTEN! I love you. I want to
hear your voice. I want you to include
me in on the things going on in your
life. I want to hear you talk about your
friends and family. Prayer is simply
you having a conversation with me. I
want to be your dearest friend.
6. HAVE FAITH
I see a lot of things from up here that
you can't see from where you are. Have
faith in me that I know what I'm doing.
Trust me, you wouldn't want the view
from my eyes. I will continue to care
for you, watch over you, and meet your
needs. You only have to trust me.
Although I have a much bigger task
than you, it seems as if you have so
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A Quote from Louis Pasteur
“When I approach a child, he inspires in me two sentiments;
tenderness for what he is, and respect for what he may become.”
Humble enough to be seen as Catholic/
A young man entered the coach of a
train in a small university town in
France. The ink was scarcely dry on
his newly acquired diploma.
As the train sped off for Paris, he
took his seat in the rear of the coach
near an elderly gentleman who
seemed to be dozing. As the train
suddenly lurched, a string of rosary
beads fell from his hand. The young
man picked up the rosary and
handed it to the elderly gentleman
with the remark, "I presume you are
praying, sir?"
"You are right. I was praying."
"I am surprised," said the young
fellow, "that in this day and age
there is someone who is still so
benighted and superstitious. Our
professors at the university do not
believe in such things," and he
proceeded to "enlighten" his elderly
fellow-passenger.
The old man expressed surprise and
amazement.
"Yes," continued the young man,
"today enlightened people don't
believe in such nonsense."
"You don't say!" replied the old
man.
"Yes, sir, and if you wish, I can send
you some illuminating books."
"Very well," said the old man,
preparing to leave as the train came
to a stop. "You may send them to
the faith of the Breton peasant's
wife."
Pasteur once said:
"Posterity will one day laugh at the
sublime foolishness of the modern
materialistic philosophy. The more I
study nature, the more I stand
amazed at the work of the Creator. I
pray while I am engaged at my work
in the laboratory."
Listen, O Catholic Scientists! Hear
this great man. Are you carrying -
and using - your rosary? Are you
ready to speak about this matter? Or
have you been too devoted to your
work to forget these words which
Pasteur took to heart:
Seek ye therefore first the kingdom
of God, and his justice, and all these
things shall be added unto you. [Mt
6:33]
Perhaps if you do, your name too
will be as ubiquitous as Pasteur.
this address." He handed the young
man a card, which read:
Louis Pasteur
Director of the Institute of Scientific
Research
Paris
Yes, Louis Pasteur (1822-1895) an
exceedingly great scientist, a devout
Catholic, a Frenchman, a
father...one of the great heroes of
humanity.
Here is some of his work:
1848, Molecular Dissymmetry.
1857, Fermentations.
1862, So-called Spontaneous
Generation.
1863, Studies in Wine.
1865, Diseases of Silk Worms.
1871, Studies in Beer.
1877, Virulent Microbic Diseases.
1880, Vaccinating Viruses.
1885, Prophylaxis of Rabies.
Pasteur's place among the masters
of science is certain beyond cavil,
and equally certain is it that he was
till the end a faithful and fervent
Catholic. In his later years he was in
the habit of approaching the
sacraments very frequently: "He
gave up his soul to God at the last,
clasping in his hands his little
copper cross, and repeating
fervently a confession of faith and
hope." It is related that a student
once asked him how it was that,
after so much reflection and
research, he could remain a
believer. "It is just because I have
thought and sought so much"
replied Pasteur, "that I believe with
the faith of a Breton peasant. If I
had thought more and studied more
I would have come to believe with
West Wagga Par ish
Serv ing: Ashmont ,
Col l ingul l ie ,
Glenf ie ld , L loyd,
and San Is idore
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