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What is known experimentally about timing determinants in MCP detectors. Anton Tremsin University of California at Berkeley / Arradiance, Inc. 1. Event time measured by the signal from the MCP output electrode. - PowerPoint PPT Presentation
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The Factors that Limit Time Resolution in Photodetectors, Workshop, University of Chicago, 28-29 April 2011 What is known experimentally about timing determinants in MCP detectors Anton Tremsin University of California at Berkeley / Arradiance, Inc
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Page 1: What is known experimentally about timing determinants  in MCP detectors

The Factors that Limit Time Resolution in Photodetectors, Workshop, University of Chicago, 28-29 April 2011

What is known experimentally about timing determinants

in MCP detectors

Anton Tremsin

University of California at Berkeley / Arradiance, Inc

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The Factors that Limit Time Resolution in Photodetectors, Workshop, University of Chicago, 28-29 April 2011

Event timing signal pickup

2. Event time measured by the signals from the anode. Both spatial and temporal channels are from the same signal, no need to synchronize.

1. Event time measured by the signal from the MCP output electrode.

Need to synchronize that signal with the spatial data coming on a separate electronics channel. At high rates may be a challenge.

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Event time measured by the signals from the anode: TTS is increased by the presence of the energy distribution in the MCP output electron signal.

Event timing variation across 18 mm tube

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Event timing variation across 18 mm tube

Map of the variation in event arrival time, showing variation in amplifierdelay for the RD20 32 channel chip.18mm sealed tube cross strip detector.

Variation in event arrival time in a horizontal slice of the image above. Across the middlethe variation is less than 500 ps.

O.H.W. Siegmund, et al., AMOS 2010

There is a variation of event time across the field of view in case of the signal pickup from

the MCPout electrode.

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Time jitter for the event time stamp as a function of MCP gain. Showing better performance at higher gain.

Time stamp jitter as a function of MCP gain. See plot on right for details.

O.H.W. Siegmund, et al., AMOS 2010

Event timing variation across 18 mm tube

Event timing is determined by the signal to noise ratio.

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The Factors that Limit Time Resolution in Photodetectors, Workshop, University of Chicago, 28-29 April 2011

Single photon/electron counting: detector hardware

Active area, 25 mm

A. S. Tremsin, et al., Nucl. Instr. Meth. A 580 (2007) 853.A. S. Tremsin, et al., IEEE TNS 54 (2007) 706.

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Experimental setup

Synchrotron generated photon pulses

~ 70 ps wide, 2 ns apart

2D Imaging +time for each

detected photon

Scattered photons

Thin film samples

A. S. Tremsin, et al., Nucl. Instr. Meth. A 580 (2007) 853.A. S. Tremsin, et al., IEEE TNS 54 (2007) 706.

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Timing resolution: single photoelectron

Elastically scattered photons

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Timing accuracy 55 ps RMS

A. S. Tremsin, et al., Nucl. Instr. Meth. A 580 (2007) 853.A. S. Tremsin, et al., IEEE TNS 54 (2007) 706.

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Both elastic and inelastic scattering are present

Only elastic scattering

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Timing resolution vs. MCP gain

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Synchrotron bunch diffusion measured with MCP

Bunch population after injection

Diffusion of electrons between the adjacent bunches was optimized with our detection system

Bunch population ~76 min later

W. E. Byrne, et al., Proceedings EPAC’06, Edinburgh, June 2006

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Event timing correction: XY→Tcorrected

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MCP output pulse with a 50 anode

Peter Wurz and Lukas Gubler, Rev. Sci. Instrum. 67 (5), 1996

25 um pores

10 um pores

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Signal pick up from the MCP or from the anode

a) Measured by taking the pickup signal from the back of MCP plate which is preamplified and processed by the TAC B&H SPC-130.

b) Average of the time sum in the delay line one direction as measured on the delay line signals by the eight-channel TDC (Roentdek TDC8HP).

40 mm active diameter MCPs mounted in a Chevron configuration.

5 m pore MCP, L/D=60:1, 12° bias

MgO coating for optimum electron detection.

Arno Vredenborg, Wim G. Roeterdink, and Maurice H. M. Janssen, Review of Scientific Instruments 79, 063108 2008

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Pulse widths from the MCP vs. pore diameter

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Pulse widths from the MCP vs. pore diameter

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Pulse widths from the MCP vs. pore diameter

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E. Schyns, Clermont-Ferrand, January 2010

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E. Schyns, Clermont-Ferrand, January 2010

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E. Schyns, Clermont-Ferrand, January 2010

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Detector walks: what can be learned from XS detectorEach strip has preamplifiers and 50 MHz ADC.

Digital waveform is processed.

Same effects are present as in LAPPD detector, but at longer time scales.

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Event timing calculation through CFD

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A. S. Tremsin, et al., IEEE Trans. Nucl. Sci. 56 (2009) 1148

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Self triggered timing resolution

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Large panel detector questions

•The smallest pore size for 8” MCPs (20 um or 10 um)

•Gap between the MCPs – poor Pulse Height Distribution - is one MCP configuration possible?

•Distance to photocathode to be minimized (J. Va’vra results)

•Charge footprint to be spread over ~4 mm – timing of the pulse is broadened

•Walk effects – both temporal and spatial (with event gain)

•Gain required for detector operation (signal to noise defined by the front end electronics and anode)


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