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WWS Next steps for Next steps for Detectors Detectors by F. Richard LAL/Orsay by F. Richard LAL/Orsay TILC08 TILC08 Joint ACFA Physics and Detector Workshop and GDE meeting on ILC, 3-6 March 2008, Sendai, Japan Sendai, Japan
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Next steps for Next steps for DetectorsDetectors

by F. Richard LAL/Orsayby F. Richard LAL/Orsay TILC08TILC08Joint ACFA Physics and Detector Workshop and GDE meeting on ILC, 3-6 March 2008, Sendai, JapanSendai, Japan

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The WWS roadmapThe WWS roadmap

In 2007 there were various steps on the In 2007 there were various steps on the WWS Roadmap (recalled in detail in WWS Roadmap (recalled in detail in Sugimoto-san presentation): Sugimoto-san presentation):

Cautious attitude from the community Cautious attitude from the community during the ACFA meeting in Beijingduring the ACFA meeting in Beijing

Presentation of an ambitious project Presentation of an ambitious project during LCWS07 in DESY during LCWS07 in DESY

Too ambitious ? In particular on Too ambitious ? In particular on engineering aspects requiring extra engineering aspects requiring extra manpower not to speak of extra fundingmanpower not to speak of extra funding

Too early ?Too early ?

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ATLAS (T. Akesson)ATLAS (T. Akesson)

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The crisisThe crisis

In spite of ‘Black December’ the roadmap is becoming In spite of ‘Black December’ the roadmap is becoming truly operational even though:truly operational even though:

We have to stretch in time the process, as the GDE, We have to stretch in time the process, as the GDE, to keep everyone on boardto keep everyone on board

We need a more prudent vocabulary (DOE) but hope We need a more prudent vocabulary (DOE) but hope to maintain our main objectives to maintain our main objectives

This means going well beyond ‘generic’ R&D to This means going well beyond ‘generic’ R&D to assess, realistically, the overall physics assess, realistically, the overall physics performances and achieve a realistic MDI program. performances and achieve a realistic MDI program.

This is well understood by ILCSC where the detector This is well understood by ILCSC where the detector part has taken growing importance. part has taken growing importance.

DOE still needs to be convinced as appeared at the DOE still needs to be convinced as appeared at the last FALClast FALC

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A new spiritA new spirit

SolidaritySolidarity rather than competition rather than competition Some countries are unaffected by this crisis Some countries are unaffected by this crisis

(no domino effect) or even improving (e.g. (no domino effect) or even improving (e.g. Japan, Spain, India, France…) and wish to helpJapan, Spain, India, France…) and wish to help

The strategy of the WWS should be to help the The strategy of the WWS should be to help the various concepts in fulfilling the LoIsvarious concepts in fulfilling the LoIs

We are not fighting to get 2 experiments We are not fighting to get 2 experiments approved but to get a project flyingapproved but to get a project flying

In this spirit we need to favour better regional In this spirit we need to favour better regional balance between LoIs to insure more stability balance between LoIs to insure more stability

Also, in the same spirit, we should not appear Also, in the same spirit, we should not appear as a ‘closed club’ but encourage newcomers as a ‘closed club’ but encourage newcomers and make best use of available resourcesand make best use of available resources

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ILC-CLICILC-CLIC

The recent CLIC-ILC meeting at CERN is an example of The recent CLIC-ILC meeting at CERN is an example of optimizing resourcesoptimizing resources

We all agree on a common goal: the need to build a We all agree on a common goal: the need to build a lepton collider after LHC lepton collider after LHC

-> Constructive competitiveness ?-> Constructive competitiveness ? There are mutual benefits to be expected by improving There are mutual benefits to be expected by improving

the connections between the two projects:the connections between the two projects: CERN expertise on large detectorsCERN expertise on large detectors MDI experts sharing common work (already happening) MDI experts sharing common work (already happening) CLIC benefiting from our well advanced tools to design CLIC benefiting from our well advanced tools to design

a detector concepta detector concept ILC concepts tried at ECM >>500 GeVILC concepts tried at ECM >>500 GeV-> ILC concepts to designate contacts to help CLIC-> ILC concepts to designate contacts to help CLIC

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Next meetingsNext meetings

Next ECFA meeting in Next ECFA meeting in Warsaw June 9-12 Warsaw June 9-12 Registration is opened Registration is opened

http://ecfa2008.fuw.edu.pl/http://ecfa2008.fuw.edu.pl/ Follows the GDE meeting Follows the GDE meeting

in Dubna in Dubna IDAG will start thereIDAG will start there CLIC-ILC collaboration on CLIC-ILC collaboration on

detectors to be discusseddetectors to be discussed LCWS08 LCWS08 November 16-20, November 16-20,

hosted by a Chicago-land hosted by a Chicago-land ConsortiumConsortium

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ConclusionConclusion

The detector roadmap is progressing The detector roadmap is progressing in spite of the bumps in spite of the bumps

To get more support, let’s follow the To get more support, let’s follow the advice given the first day by Suzuki-advice given the first day by Suzuki-san:san:


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