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The first section are from DISCUSS and include 4 comprehensive policies as well as some other comments. The second set is info Brian Steinburg compiled when he was running ResidenceHallDirector.com. These posts have not been formatted, but hopefully they will give you some good resources to look at.

Thanks to those of you who sent on this information!

Western Kentucky University has a really good policy for cats and dogs. They can have one animal. the dogs must be 25 pounds or less which means it is limited to small size dogs. Deposit of $75 on each apartment is paid. The dogs MUST be on a leash at all time. Must have vet certificates and all shots. Cannot be looked after by students or staff. Cannot be walked in the same area each day becuase of hygene concerns. If they have walk through the lobby or common area to get out the animal must be carried. Inspections are done twice a semester. No students or staff can pet the animals. if any rules are broken, everyone loses priviledges.those are the details I remember off the top of my head.You might want to email Kit Tolbert at kit.tolbert@wku.edu and ask her. She is the Director of Housing at Western.Hope that helps!Tehanee RatwatteAssistant Residence ManagerIndiana University

I was allowed to have a pet at a previous institution and I was live-in staff. However, our housekeeping supervisor was severely allergic. Out of respect to her, I waited until I moved to obtain my kitten. Just a FYI. I also had two residents who were severely allergic. After visiting my parents home (two dogs), I would have to shower and change clothes immediately. Once I went straight to work from the visit; the Housekeeper ad a reaction and was hospitalized for two days. Sometimes it is thepeople, not just the policy.

Kim Owens

Iowa State UniversityDepartment of ResidencePet Policy for Hall Directors

Hall Directors will be permitted to own, and have live in their apartment, fish in an aquarium and a limit of two (2) "caged" (birds, hamsters, etc.) pets OR one (1) cat OR one (1) dog. The pet must be approved by the Associate Director for Residence Life or her designee PRIOR to being allowed in the apartment.

A $200.00 refundable deposit will be paid to the Department of Residence seven (7) days prior to purchasing a pet. This deposit will be used to cover possible damage to Department property caused by the pet. There will be an initial apartment condition inventory completed by the hall director and checked by the Associate Director PRIOR to the pet's presence. At the time the staff member moves out of his/her apartment, or no longer owns the pet(s), the Associate Director will tour the apartment and determine if damage to Department property can be attributed to the pet(s). If damages are more than $200, the staff member will be charged and be required to make full payment within fourteen (14) days. If the damage is less than $200, the staff member will receive the remaining balance of his/her deposit within fourteen (14) days. The Associate Director for Residence Life maintains the right to conduct apartment inspections biannually.

Only dog breeds listed on the approved breed chart will be approved for ownership. Mixed breeds may be approved; contact the Associate Director for Residence Life PRIOR to purchase.

The dog or cat must be maintained under a standard measure of restraint (leash or carrier) when out of the residence hall apartment.

The animal must have all required vaccinations up to date and a copy must be on file with the Associate Director for Residence Life.

It is strongly encouraged to take dogs through obediance training (available through Ames Kennel club).

The animal must be licensed and a copy of the license must be on file with the Associate Director for Residence Life.

The animal's feces must be disposed of properly. It is the owner's responsibility to shovel feces from University grounds, dispose of it in a plastic bag, and then place that bag in the garbage bins outside. Clean up must occur IMMEDIATELY.

All pets must be kept out of student living areas and other areas commonly

utilized by students including lounges, study areas, elevators, dens, computer rooms, post offices, etc. Pets are only permitted in the hallways if: a)they are being transported to the owner's apartment; b) they are being transported outside from the owner's apartment and c) the shortest route from outside to the apartment is utilized.

Pets which constitute a nuisance to other residents, as determined by the Associate Director for Residence Life, must be removed within seven (7) days of notification by the Associate Director for Residence Life. The Associate Director's decision is final.

All liability for the actions of the animal (bites, scratches, etc.) is the responsibility of the owner.

The owner will take all reasonable precautions to protect the property of the University and the residents.

All pets will be spayed and neutered at the appropriate age. A copy of the vet report will be on file in the Associate Director's Office.

Cats will be declawed (front paws) at the appropriate age. A copy of the vet report will be on file in the Associate Director's Office.

In the event pets would no longer be permitted by the Department of Residence, those pet owners may file a request to the Associate Director for Residence Life to have their previously owned pet(s) "grandfathered."

I agree to abide by the conditions of the pet ownership as stated in this policy.

Name: ______________________________ Date: _______________

University of Alaska AnchorageDepartment of Residence LifePet Policy for Live-In Professional Staff

Residence Coordinators will be permitted to own, and have live in their apartment, fish in an aquarium and a limit of two (2) "caged (no larger than 2'x3')" domestic pets (ie. birds, hamsters) or one (1) cat or one (1) dog. The pet(s) must be approved in writing by the Director of Residence Life or designee prior to being allowed in the apartment. The Director of Residence Life has sole discretion to approve or not approve any pet if in the opinion of the director, it is not in the best interest of the residential community.

A $300.00 refundable deposit will be paid to University Housing seven (7) days prior to bringing the pet to the apartment. This deposit will be used by UAA to professionally clean the staff member's apartment upon vacating and cover possible damage to University Housing property caused by the pet. This cleaning would be cleaning above and beyond the regular deep cleaning that is performed upon the vacating of a Residence Coordinator. An initial apartment condition inventory will be completed by the Residence Coordinator and checked by the Director of Residence Life PRIOR to the pet's presence. At the time the staff member moves out of his/her apartment, or no longer owns the pet(s), the Director of Residence Life

along with a representative from University Housing will tour the apartment and determine if any damage to University property can be attributed to the pet(s). If damages and cleaning is more than $300, the staff member will be charged and be required to make full payment within fourteen (14) days or the charge may be deducted from the staff member's final pay check. If the damage and cleaning is less than $300, the staff member will receive the remaining balance of his/her deposit.

The dog or cat must be maintained under a standard measure of restraint (leash or carrier) when out of the residence hall apartment.

The animal must have all required vaccinations up to date and in compliance with the Anchorage Municipal Ordinance Title 17 which may be acquired at the Animal Control Center on Bragaw Avenue.

The animal must be licensed in compliance with the Anchorage Municipal Ordinance Title 17.

The owner must adhere to Anchorage Municipal Ordinance Title 17.

It is strongly encouraged to take dogs through obedience training.

The owner must adhere to the UAA Campus Pet Policy.

The animal's feces must be disposed of properly. It is the owner's responsibility to shovel feces from University grounds, dispose of it in a plastic bag, and then place that bag in the garbage bins outside. Clean up must occur IMMEDIATELY. Animals urinating outside must do so away from the maintained lawn areas.

All pets must be kept out of student living areas and other areas commonly utilized by students including lounges, study areas, elevators, computer rooms, post offices, etc. Pets are only permitted in the hallways if: a) they are being transported to the owner's apartment; b) they are being transported outside from the owner's apartment and c) the shortest route from outside to the apartment is utilized. The exception to this would be 1) the residence coordinator's office and 2) a common area if the animal were to be part of an approved Residence Life program. Pets which constitute a nuisance or health hazard to other residents or the community, in the opinion of the Director of Residence Life, will be removed within fourteen (14) days of notification by the Director of Residence Life. Pets that are determined to be a threat to others' safety must be removed immediately.

All liability for the actions of the animal (bites, scratches, etc.) is the responsibility of the owner.

The owner will take all reasonable precautions to protect the property of the University and the residents.

All pets will be spayed or neutered at the appropriate age.

Cats will be declawed (front paws) at the appropriate age.

In the event that the UAA pet policy was abolished, those current pet owners may file a request to the Director of Residence Life to have their previously owned pet(s) "grandfathered." It will be the directors sole discretion to allow or disallow the grandfathered request based on the director's opinion of what is in the best interest of the residential community.

Residents must be notified of the pet's presence in the Hall either through a Hall meeting or letters or postings.

I agree to abide by the conditions of pet ownership as stated in this policy.

Signature: ______________________________ Date: _______________ (pet owner's signature)

Name (print): _____________________________

Type of Pet: _________________ Breed: _________________ Sex: _______

Director's Signature: __________________________ Date: ________________

BOWLING GREEN STATE UNIVERSITY OFFICE OF RESIDENCE LIFE HALL DIRECTOR STAFF PET POLICY

StructureBefore acquiring a pet, the Hall Director must discuss their plans with their respective Assistant Director and receive permission from the Associate Director of Residence Life for Educational Initiatives.The pet agreement contract must be signed before the pet arrives.Only cats (subject to the limitations described below) are permitted.Only two pets allowed per apartment.Pets must have all required vaccinations and licenses to be in accordance with the city of Bowling Green pet ordinances. Certification of the receipt of such vaccinations and the original license must be presented by the Hall Director to the Associate Director for Educational Initiatives. Updated copies of the licenses and vaccination records must be kept on file in the Hall Director's office, and copies must be provided to the Associate Director of Residence Life for Educational Initiatives.All pets must remain in the Hall Director's apartment at all times. Anytime the animal must be removed from the apartment, it must be done so in a pet carrier. The pet must be taken out of the building by the shortest and most direct path.All animal feces must be disposed of properly on a regular basis. All waste materials and bedding should be placed in a heavy, sealed, trash bag and placed in building exterior dumpsters. Nothing is to be flushed in the university (or city) sewage system.Hall Directors must possess products that will appropriately treat/care for/clean pet "accidents."All liability for actions of the animal will be the responsibility of the Hall Director. The Department of Residence Life requires the Hall Directors to maintain liability insurance (renter's insurance) on the pet.Any concerns by residents, staff or other university

personnel about health, safety, disruption, or damage should be directed to the Hall Director. Hall Directors MUST be receptive to complaints and respond accordingly. This includes notifying the respective Assistant Director and the Associate Director of Residence Life of concern(s) raised.In the event of a formal grievance or significant complaint, the Associate Director of Residence Life will determine whether the continuation of that Hall Director's pet privileges are appropriate. If the decision is made to terminate the pet privileges, a reasonable period of time to effect the removal will be provided. (A formal grievance constitutes a written document identifying problems the person has with the pet.)Hall Directors must arrange for care of the pet when they are away on weekends, vacations, or extended periods of time. This should be a fellow Hall Director or professional staff member, not a student or student staff member.Declawing of cats is voluntary; however, as indicated above, the Hall Director is solely responsible for all damage caused by the cat, including but not limited to the financial cost of replacing and/or reupholstering furniture, woodwork, tile, curtains, paint, etc. The same responsibility applies to the cost incurred in eliminating any odors caused by the cat. Kittens must have a scratching post until the time when they are de-clawed.Female cats must be spayed by 6-7 months of age. Male cats are not permitted in apartments until the neutering process has been completed.Apartment doors must remain closed at all times.

DamagesBefore acquiring a pet, a contract statement of responsibility must be signed. The Hall Director is solely responsible for all damage caused by the cat to university property, including but not limited to the financial cost of replacing and/or reupholstering furniture, woodwork, tile, curtains, paint, etc. The same responsibility applies to the cost incurred in eliminating any odors caused by the cat, or in eliminating cat hair, dander, or other related items.The pet owner will take all necessary precautions to protect the property of the department. Food dishes, cages, litter boxes and the like must be placed on a plastic or a protective mat.

AllergiesHall Directors should be mindful that other staff members may have allergies to their pet, and should not conduct meetings in the apartment if this is the case.Upon vacating the apartment, in addition to the typical cleaning the custodial staff provides (shampooing carpets, washing and/or painting walls), the Hall Director is responsible to pay for additional cleaning needed as a result of the pet(s). Discretion for this decision lies with the Associate Director for Educational Initiatives, in consultation with the Associate Director of Housing Operations

MiscellaneousAs appropriate, Hall Directors are expected to be able to

explain pet policy rationale to students.While it is not necessary to fill out a new contract every year, each Hall Director with a pet should communicate with the Associate Director about the status of their pets. This would include updated vaccinations or other information about the Hall Director's pets.

Office of Residence Life

Agreement for Pets in Full-Time, Live-In, Professional, Staff

Apartments

STAFF MEMBERSThe following agreement applies only to full-time, professional Coordinators living in apartments within the residence halls. Hall Directors and Resident Assistantsare not permitted to have pets on campus.

These guidelines serve only as a reference point and should not be viewed as absolute. Any staff member considering the acquisition of a pet is expected to discuss this matter with the Assistant Director of Residence Life or his/her designee in advance of ownership. The Assistant Director of Residence Life has final approval for both the acquisition of and selection of a particular type of pet.

Any incoming Coordinator must discuss the type of pet being brought to campus to insure that it meets policy guidelines. Pet ownership is decided on a case bycase basis.

NUMBER OF PETSCoordinators will be permitted to own, and have live in their apartment, fish in an aquarium. In addition, there is a limit of two (2) caged pets OR one (1) cat ORone (1) dog.

ALLOWABLE PETSThe Office of Residence Life may allow the following pets according to the stated guidelines. No other types of pets are allowed.

Fisho All types allowed.

Rodent Specieso Hamsters, mice, rats, and other approved, domesticated rodents (ferrets will not be approved).o All rodents must be caged.

Reptiles/Insects/Arachnidso All reptiles, insects, or arachnids must be caged.o No poisonous species are permitted.

Birdso Must be a bird that is typically domesticated (e.g., canaries, parakeets, cockateels, cockatoos, and other parrots).o All birds must be caged.

Page 2This policy may be changed or adapted to the needs of the Office of Residence Life at any point, with notification to the Coordinator staff.

Catso Must have all required immunizations up-to-date and a copy must be on file with the Assistant Director of Residence Life.o Cats must be

spayed or neutered at the appropriate age. A copy of the vet report must be on file with the Assistant Director of Residence Life.o Cats must be declawed (front paws) at the appropriate age. A copy of the vet report must be on file with the Assistant Director of Residence Life.

Dogso Must have all required immunizations up-to-date and a copy must be on file with the Assistant Director of Residence Life.o Must be licensed and a copy of the license must be on file with the Assistant Director of Residence Life.o Must be collared and on a leash outside apartment per CSU policy.o Dogs must be spayed or neutered at the appropriate age. A copy of the vet report must be on file with the Assistant Director of Residence Life.o Must possess friendly and sociable characteristics.

STANDARDS OF BEHAVIOR BY ANIMAL AND PET OWNERHealth, sanitary, safety, and disruptive standards must be maintained as follows:o Pets must not be left unattended for inordinate amounts of time.o Pets must not be taken into the residence hall offices, common space, or student living areas. Pets are only permitted in the hallways if: a) they arebeing transported to the ownerís apartment, b) they are being transported outside from the ownerís apartment, and c) the shortest route from outside tothe apartment is utilized.o Pets must not be taken into any administrative, academic, or athletic facilities.o Pets may be leashed outside an apartment only when the owner is home and the owner is with the pet outside.o Pet feces must be disposed of properly. It is the ownerís responsibility to shovel feces from University grounds, dispose of it in a plastic bag, and thenplace that bag in the garbage dumpsters outside. Clean up must occur IMMEDIATELY.o Pet accidents within the apartment must be promptly cleaned up using appropriate cleaning products.o Regular and routine cleaning of floors, kennels, cages, and litter boxes must occur. The strong odor of a pet emanating from the apartment is notacceptable.o Flea infestation must be attended to promptly and consultation with appropriate personnel is expected beforehand.o Pets must not be allowed to disrupt others (e.g, barking continuously, squawking, yowling, howling, etc.). Pets which constitute a nuisance to otherresidents, as determined by the Assistant Director of Residence Life, must be removed within seven (7) days of notification by the Assistant Director ofResidence Life. The Assistant Directorís decision is final.

Office of Residence Life Proposed Agreement for Pets in Full-Time, Live-In, Professional, Staff Apartments

Page 3This policy may be changed or adapted to the needs of the Office

of Residence Life at any point, with notification to the Coordinator staff.o Pets must not be involved in an incident where a person experiences either the threat of or an actual injury as a result of the animalís behavior.o All liability for the actions of the animal (bites, scratches, etc.) is the responsibility of the owner. Personal renterís insurance of the owner may benecessary.o The owner will take all reasonable precautions to protect the property of the University and the residents.o The owner will notify the Assistant Director of Residence Life if the pet has escaped its confines and is unable to be located within twelve (12) hours.Violations concerning any of the aforementioned may result in the staff member having to find alternative housing off-campus for the pet. It should be noted thathaving a pet is a privilege, not a right. The Assistant Director of Residence Life will make the final decisions in these matters.

DEPOSITA $200.00 refundable deposit will be paid to the Office of Residence Life seven (7) days prior to purchasing a pet. This deposit will be used to cover possibledamage to Department property caused by the pet. There will be an initial apartment condition inventory completed by the Coordinator and assessed by theAssistant Director of Residence Life and Director of Custodial Services PRIOR to the petís presence.

VACATING THE APARTMENTAt the time the staff member moves out of his/her apartment, or no longer owns the pet(s), the Assistant Director of Residence Life and Director of CustodialServices will again assess the apartment and determine if damage to Department property can be attributed to the pet(s). The Assistant Director ofResidence Life maintains the right to conduct apartment inspections annually to assess for pet damage and make decisions regarding pet ownership.o If damages are greater than $200.00, the staff member will be charged out of the last monthís paycheck and be required to make full paymentwithin thirty (30) days. If full payment is not received within thirty (30) days, a lawsuit will be ensued.o If damage is less than $200.00, the staff member will receive the remaining balance of his/her deposit within thirty (30) days.Vacate dates may be influenced by repair/replacement schedule as necessary based on any damages caused by the pet. Discussions need to occur when theCoordinator gives notice to the Assistant Director of Residence Life.CLEANING AND DAMAGESApartment cleanliness both during occupancy and post occupancy may be a concern for custodial staff members. Continued standards of cleanliness, as itrelates to health issues, are expected. Further, the staff member has an Office of Residence Life Proposed Agreement for Pets in Full-Time, Live-In, Professional, Staff Apartments

Page 4This policy may be changed or adapted to the needs of the Office of Residence Life at any point, with notification to the Coordinator staff.obligation to make sure that the apartment is as clean as the original standard.This also includes thorough cleaning and vacuuming (and HEPA-vacuuming for allergens) of carpets, fabric window coverings, and University furniture.Damages and extraordinary cleaning caused by the pet are the responsibility of the staff member.o Replacement or repair of damaged items will be the financial responsibility of the staff member.o All assessments will be at the real replacement or repair cost. Replacement carpet will be charged at a prorated rate based on the age of the carpet.o Extraordinary cleaning charges shall be deemed appropriate by the Assistant Director of Residence Life and the Director of Custodial Services if suchcharges are required as a result of the pet living in the apartment.

AGREEMENTHaving read the aforementioned guidelines, I acknowledge that I understand them, accept them, and agree to abide by them._________________________________________ _____________________Signature of Coordinator Date_________________________________________ _____________________Coordinatorís Printed Name Apartment (Hall, Number)

Here is another discussion on the same topic:

Here at Manhattanville College, a small Liberal Arts college, all live-in staff are allowed to have pets.  There is no limitation on size or type of animal either.  I guess the philosophy is that this is our HOME, as opposed to students who are only here for the academic year. I'm really not sure, and frankly I'm not really going to question it!

Jason P. Marshall Resident Director - Founder's Hall Manhattanville College Purchase, NY  10577

From: Susan Harlos <sharlos@cwv.edu> Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 08:42:47 -0400

Gerry,

I know that West Virginia University has/had one when I worked there in 95-97.  It was WONDERFUL for those of us who lived in the residence halls, really made it feel like home.  I also thought it helped

a lot of homesick first year students as nearly every day I had one or more knocking on my door and wanting to play with my cat because they missed their own.  I don't remember a lot of specifics about the policy except that I had to have the whole place, furniture and all, steam cleaned when I left the position. Overall, it was a wonderful draw for the professional staff. You can call their Director of Residence Life at (304) 293-4686.

Susan J. McCarthy Director of Student Support Services The College of West Virginia P.O. Box AG Beckley, WV 25802

From: Kate Winne <kate.winne@uni.edu> Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 16:06:00 -0700

We have a professional staff pet policy here at U. Northern Iowa. Professional staff members can have up to 2 cats (declawed and neutered/spayed) or another approved caged animal such as a ferret... and fish.

Kate Winne Hall Coordinator University of Northern Iowa Cedar Falls, IA 50614

From: Shannon Peters <speters6@wvu.edu> Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 17:41:01 -0400

Here at WVU we are allowed to have pets - cats, dogs, whatever.  As a new hall coordinator, I can say that my two kittens have really helped to make this my home, rather than "the apartment that goes with my job".  In addition, it is nice to have someone to go home to at the end of the day. Some of my colleagues who are dog fans, though, are really debating getting them because of the amount of time that we're elsewhere in our

buildings and the size of the apartments.

Shannon L. Peters Residence Hall Coordinator, Lyon Tower Residential Education, West Virginia University P.O. Box 6430 Morgantown, WV  26506-6430

From: "Schetter, Jeremy K" <jschetter@flsouthern.edu> Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 17:08:06 -0400

Geraldine Muir,

I am one of 10 live-in professional staff members at Florida Southern College.  We use the same pet policy as our student population . . . a small fish in a small bowl.

Kendrick Schetter

From: Lisa Barker <lbarker@mbc.edu> Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 17:01:38 -0400

I get to have my cats as a professional at Mary Baldwin College. And I know others before me have had dogs. It's part of the reason I chose to work here. Having had animals for two years before getting my Master's, I couldn't just give them up. I think it's a very nice option, especially when you consider what most of us make! :-)

Lisa

From: "Jennifer Robinson" <jrobinson@gw.hamline.edu> Date: Wed,

02 Aug 2000 10:13:55 -0500

At Hamline University in St. Paul, MN, Hall Directors are allowed to have dogs or cats, no size restrictions.

Jennifer J. Robinson, Ph.D. Director of Residential Life Hamline University 1536 Hewitt Avenue St. Paul, MN  55104

From: Margo Miller <mamiller@kutztown.edu> Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 23:33:06 -0400

At Kutztown University Residence Coordinators are allowed a cat or a dog and Resident Directors are allowed a cat.  Must be declawed and  have shots and all. Both can have a small bird and or fish up to 25 gallon tank.

From: "Collett, Adam" <Adam@imomail.tamu.edu> Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 09:23:21 -0500

Responding to a post about campus pet policies for live-in professional staff...

While I was a Hall Director (graduate assistant position) in 1997-1998, I worked with several colleagues to put together a farily thorough proposal to try to convince our department to allow professional live-in staff to own pets.

I have posted the entire proposal as well as some of the support documents at the following site:

http://campuspets.homepage.com

It is intended to be of assistance to those who are trying to get such a policy established, but it seems to serve as a general resource to those researching the issue from either side.

Adam Collett

Date:  Fri, 22 Sep 2000 13:07:50 -0400 From:  Joe Mulligan <jmulliga@ramapo.edu>Here at Ramapo College we allow our resident students to have fish as pets in the residence halls as long as they are kept in a tank that is no larger than twenty gallons.  Recently some students have requested that the pet policy be expanded to include a variety of other animals. The students expressed that allowing a variety of pets may assist in decreasing levels of stress for them.  Our dept. has experienced many situations in the past of neglected and abandoned animals as well as maintenance concerns stemming from unauthorized pets.

I am interested in finding out if schools allow residents to have pets in the residence halls.  If so, what are your guidelines? If not, what is your rationale?

Any assistance would be appreciated greatly. -- Sincerely,

Joe Mulligan Coordinator for Judicial Affairs/ Assistant Director of Residence Life Ramapo College of New Jersey 505 Ramapo Valley Road Mahwah, N.J. 07430 Tel: 201-684-7869 Fax: 201-684-7589

Recently, our Resident Directors began to inquire about a policy exception that would allow them to have pets in their apartments in light of the "no pets in the residence halls" policy in our student handbook.We are a small, rural campus in Vermont, with five traditional residence halls housing 350 students.  The RD apartments are 3

rooms (Bedroom, Kitchen/living room, and Office) that are on the same hallway as the student rooms (they were converted from 3 individual rooms).  Half of the staff members (9 in total) are in their third year (or later) in the position.

I am in a position where I want to be empathetic with my staff who live in the halls full time year round, and at the same time maintain the integrity and service of the residential program.

For that reason, I am seeking to gain your input.  Do you or do you not allow professional staff to keep pets in the residence halls?  If you do, what are the stipulations (especially since their office is connected to their apartment, I am concerned about students who have aversions/allergies/(fears?) to pets.

Any input I could receive would be greatly appreciated.

On our campus, students and professional live-on staff are permitted to have non-venomous reptiles and non-meat-eating fish.  The live-on staff have to abide by the same pet policy as the students.  While I understand the reasoning that they live in the apartments year-round (unlike students who live here for nine months), and the apartments are larger than a standard double room, the issues of allergies and damages are still the same.  Many apartment complexes and people who rent houses prohibit pets too.  I would have a hard time justifying an employee living in a residence hall having a rabbit, cat, or dog to a student (or the student's parents) who lives on the same floor.Just my two cents worth.

Here at Concordia, our Dir. of Res Life allows the professional housing staff to have small pets, including fish and cats.  While I certainly understand Joanne's concerns, I think there are other issues that weigh in

as well.  One of the big concerns I've heard recently is a difficulty in finding qualified Hall Director candidates.  This shortage could pose serious challenges for our profession.  The more we can allow HDs to feel like they live as "normal" a life as possible, the more I think we can attract and keep good housing staff.  I for one would not take a position in which I could not have my cats.  I'm sure there are others out there who feel the same.  Besides the fact that my cats are part of my family, being able to have them in my apartment makes me feel like my director respects my right to have a life, and understands that this helps me be a happier employee.Just my two cents.

I've been on both sides of the issues.  At one point the live-in staff was allowed to have small pets, up to a cat.  Things were okay.  Then there was a change in the leadership and the pets had to go.  That was a very difficult time, but I lived through it.  Looking back at the event, I recognize that the adminstration was just doing whatever to "quiet" the live-in staff without a very serious look at the long and short term issues. Ms. Goldwater is correct, it's very diffcult positon to defend to parents, students, and other areas of the institution. Some of the long term issues may include; an apparent double standard, allergies, stains, odors, allergies, cleaning, and air quality.  I realize that the overall competition for quality staff is increasing, but if having a pet is a "deal breaker" then so be it.   Life is full of choices, pets are just another one of them.

Yes, pets are just another "choice"--but one which approximately 50% of American Households decide to partake (according to Mediamark Research, 1995).  I believe that the "so be it" approach could be harmful to the field of Student Affairs.  C'mon now, what career path other than the military places so many restrictions on personal lives of professionals?

You said that with pets, "things were okay" and then go on to state an opinion that unjustifiably opposes pets.  That, and your use of the word "defend" makes me wonder if you are less than objective on this particular issue.  Why "defend" something that was, by your own admission, "okay" and can be easily supported by logic and common sense.  I believe "explain" would have been a more appropriate choice of words.

Long term issue #1 "Apparent double standard"--double standards assume one population.  You can't do this with live-in professionals without disrespecting the position and the people within it.  There are students, and then there are full-time live-in professionals--two completely different populations which SHOULD have different standards.  Different standards are inherent and essential--pay, living conditions, ability to reside without being a student, etc...the "double standard" concern is invalid by definition.

#2--Allergies In most cases involving pets, there is never any reason for any student to come in contact with a pet.  In living situations that don't include a private entryway and a pet that requires outdoor time, a contract that stipulates the use of a restraining device would address this.  I've had my dog in 3 different halls on two different campuses over 6 years, a total of approximately 1500-2000 residents over the years, and have never received a complaint--and neither have my supervisors.

#3--Stains, cleaning (or damage) If this is a concern, require a deposit.  You've heard professionals state that they wouldn't have entered the field if they couldn't live with their pet--of course they'd put deposits down in a heartbeat to address this concern!  Ask for as much as it takes to make you comfortable--they'll raise the money.      I had to get my apartment carpet and furniture commercially cleaned--the result was an apartment cleaner than most others that people might move into.

#4--air quality Not sure what kind of animal you might be referring to, but pets generally don't smell bad--especially if taken care of.  This leads to

the biggest factor--holding pet-owning professionals accountable.  I believe that the reluctance to do this is the real number one reason why live-ins are sometimes not allowed to have pets.  Live-in professionals that do not take care of their pet properly should be held accountable--the same way they would if they had a drank beer every afternoon, or played their stereo too loudly.

I believe Student Affairs professionals do a disservice to themselves and live-in professionals when they tout these reasons for not permitting live-in professionals to have pets.  If you want, just say no--it has more integrity.

FYI-- After gathering information from 243 colleges over the past 2 years, I have identified the following: Almost 1/3 (30%, 73 schools) have Pet Policies for their Live-in/on Professionals that PERMIT cats Almost 1/5 (18%, 44 schools) have Pet Policies for their Live-in/on Professionals that PERMIT dogs The following is a list of some institutions that have pet policies that allow dogs: Bard C, Cal Poly Pomona Fndtn, Carthage, C of St. Catherine, Columbia C (SC), Columbia U, Concordia U, DePaul U, Emmanuel C, Ferrum C, Goucher C, Green Mountain C, Grinnell C, Hamline U, Iowa State U, Kalamazoo C., Kutztown U, Lake Forest C, Manhattanville C, Maryville U, Mercer U, Mt. St. Marys (MD), New York U, San Diego State U, San Jose State U, Santa Clara U, SUNY Delhi, Trinity U, U of Cincinnati, U Illinois-Chicago, U Miami, U Missouri-Rolla, U Pacific, U Rhode Island, U Richmond, U Roanoke C, Southern California, U Wisconsin-Stevens Point, Vassar C, Washington U-St Louis, West Virginia U, Wheaton C, Winona State U, Xavier U-Cincinnati

For copies of the 2000 Live-in Professional Report and/or a package including several of permissive policies(including dogs) from a variety of schools--just drop a line with an address.

(This email was from Rich Horowitz, who compiles the annual Live In/On Professional Report. He is an excellent person to contact about this. To see the report, click here. To contact Rich, email him at horowitr@newpaltz.edu.)

At the University of Missouri-Columbia, professional staff are also

permitted to have small pets, including cats (no dogs), within certain guidelines (spayed, declawed, weatherstripping applied to doors, damage deposit, etc.).  I too understand the concerns about the students vs. the staff issue (i.e., "why do they get to have a pet?"), but also have to agree that professional staff are in a different scenario than a student that lives there for 9 months.  There are steps that can be taken to effectively address concerns about damages, allergies, residents' fear of pets, etc.   I also think that we need to recognize that professional staff are responsible enough to be aware of issues of having a pet and live up to the expectations that accompany that responsibility.  The benefit is that the professional staff feel that they have a home environment.  For full-time live-in staff, I feel this is critical in order for them to be able to balance the stresses of living in.  From personal experience, I would never have taken a job anywhere that would not allow me to keep my cat, and if it came down to it, would have eliminated Residence Life as an option if I couln't find an institution that was able to accommodate that need.  From conversations with colleagues within the field, more of them are looking at pet policies when they consider institutions.  I think that as the job market outside of our field becomes more appealing, we need to look at areas where we can accomodate such needs that will attract and retain quality staff, especially those who live in.

I strongly disgree with you.  The idea that allowing a professional staff member to have a pet creates a "double standard" is absurd.  As a live in Director of Residence Life, I feel that I have earned the right to be treated differently than the students, which in my case means that I have the right to have 3 cats.  As  live-in professionals, we have earned our degrees, we have put in many hours "learning" our profession and in my eyes have earned the right to be allowed certain priveleges. If we, as live-in professional, were treated entirely as the students are, what then really differentiates us from them?  We are adults who are required to live in a situation that may not always be conducive to a personal life.  Within reason, of course, I do not see the harm in allowing professional staff members to have pets, if that is what allows them to feel that they have a personal life outside of their job. In no way am I saying that we should be allowed to own a Great Dane dog in

a residence hall apartment (some things are just not feasable).  But there are plenty of small pets (including some dogs) that offer comfort to a person.  And in no way am I saying that the person with the pet should not be responsible for their pets actions (in reference to stains, sratches, etc).  If there is damage done, the owner should be held accountable--no if's, and's or but's. I have lived-in in two different environments, one I was not permitted anything different than the students, and my current where I can have pets.  I must say for myself (and my husband who has lived with me in both places) we are much happier having our cats than we were when we were unable to have anything with fur. If it comes to pets as a "deal breaker," I fully believe that if I offered a job to my ideal employee and they had a pet...I would work very hard to make a deal that was acceptable for both of us.  And if that includes bringing a pet, then so be it.  Pets are not necessarily "just a choice for everyone." Thank you.

> I strongly disgree with you.  The idea that allowing a professional staff > member to have a pet creates a "double standard" is absurd.  As a live in > Director of Residence Life, I feel that I have earned the right to be > treated differently than the students, which in my case means that I have > the right to have 3 cats.

You raise an interesting point.  It occurs to me that it is also a "double standard" that on our campus, our RDs can have live-in partners and children, but our students can't.  If my 13-month old son were living in, he could wreak more havoc on a residence hall apartment than a cat could any day!  For my staff members who don't have partners and children, having a pet can go a long a way in reducing the feeling of isolation that can be inherent in a live-in position.

During my time as a Resident Hall Coordinator at a state college in New York, I wrote and had approved a pet policy for live-in professional staff to allow them to have cats, birds, and other small animals, capable of living in a cage (ie gerbils, etc).

It took three months of writing and re-writing this policy and to get it approved, which was a very rewarding process.   I had our Director of Residence Life and Director of Physical Plant approve it before going to the Vice President of Student Affairs.  I also discussed pet ownership with our counseling center and included information on the benefits of owning a pet. There was a $150.00 damage deposit required to be paid, the amount considering local landlord rates and the salary residence life live-in staff received.   Pets had to be fixed (spade/neutered) and if less than six months old declawed.   The apartment was inspected before and after the pet moved in and out.   Damages were charged to the owner.   Plus, the pet could not leave the apartment unless on a leash or in a carrier.   It was not allowed to roam around the halls.

That was the policy in a nutshell.   It worked, it was well-received, and it was beneficial.    It was very beneficial to people who, because of the job, were required to live-on campus, worked long and erratic hours sometimes due to the nature of the job, and it was a welcome benefit.    It certainly helped me.    How nice it was to come back to the apartment to relax and have a cat that sat with you, purred, and didn't have a roommate conflict, a problem with alcohol, or had just failed a mid-term.  

I just thought I would weigh in with my thoughts...In terms of the double standard argument...I don't believe a double standard exists. There are two standards for employees and students, but this is appropriate. Students are required to meet their school's code of conduct and housing agreement...this is their standard. As a professional staff member, I do not sign the housing agreement, nor am I required to comply with all the student policies.

Rather, I must obey my professional employee standards as set by Human Resources, etc. For example, I can't hire a relative under my school's nepotism policy, but I do not have to sign in my guests. I feel there are two distinctly appropriate set of rules and consequences.

Ultimately, I do think it can be fair for a school to say no pets (just as many landlords do) if it is for reasons related to damage, noise, etc.

I think we need to be careful when we start making decisions that equate professional staff with students. Even if you do decide to say no pets, I think it should be justified with reasons appropriate to and respectful of the professional standing of your live-in staff.

Just my thoughts on the topic : )

I disagree....rights are not earned...they are given...or are assumed. The issue is that we never treat staff 'differently' then students, in fact, we must hold staff to the same values that we seek to inculcate within our students... Animals for staff come down to  quality of life issues for people we expect often to perform a very difficult job for often very little money... :)

I agree with you.  Just want to point out that the issue of "earned rights" was from a message that someone else wrote and that I was quoting (as I did with your message above).   Just want to make sure that statements are attributed to the correct individuals.

I'll add my two cents to this conversation:I am honestly having trouble understanding how any of us that work in this field don't see the differences between live-in professional staff and students.  Let's be honest and acknowledge these differences and not worry about issues of a "double standard" which is totally irrelevant in this discussion.

To me, legitimate concerns include damage, allergens, etc.  These can be worked through with a common sense approach between supervisor and

employee. I am not a pet person, but I see nothing wrong with allowing our live-in staff to have pets if we understand and work through any issues.

I agree with David. (below)  Back in 1972 my wife and I were offered the position of RD in one of the first co-ed halls at a private University in So. Cal..  We agreed on one condition...that the administration make an exception to the "no pet" rule and let us keep our dog.  You know, it worked out fine, and not even once did a students demand to have a dog for themselves, or even object for that matter.  In fact, our dog became the hall mascot and helped make it more like home.  Sure, we had to clean up any messes (inside and out) and set up an outdoor "corral" so he wouldn't run wild during the times we let him out, but even not having a private entrance to our RD apartment wasn't a problem.  A little flexibility on the part of the administration ended up going a long way toward building a sense of community and an example of responsible family living at Cortner Hall.

I agree with Jim.  In my eight years as a residence hall director at two institutions, for six of them I have had a pet (cat).   It was not something I earned.   It was a privelege of the position, recognizing the live-in requirement, long hours, difficult and unexpected situations to deal with, and the pay.   Research indicates pets lower blood pressure, increase self-satisfaction with life, and overall are beneficial to your health.   I have always followed the same rule of thumb as a live-in pet owner as was expected of me when hired - be responsible.  They call it a fishbowl that we live in sometimes - how about making the fishbowl a little bit more liveable.

To add my 2 cents to the pet debate -I currently work at an institution (WVU) that allows pets for live-in staff.  While it wasn't a deciding factor in whether or not I would take the position, it certainly didn't hurt their offer.  What I have been surprised at is how much of a role my kittens play in students opening up to me.  Sometimes it is much easier for students (including RAs) to share their concerns, fears, etc. while they are playing with them.  Some students will stop by, ostensibly to see the cats, but in the course of the conversation tell me

about roommate troubles, pressures from home, etc. And I've found it's a nice de-stresser for my staff, too, when they've had a rough day or they need to talk.  During midterms, those kittens got more attention than they ever have before!

I would never deny that there ARE downsides.  I have one staff member who's allergic to cats, so it limits the number of staff events I can hold in my apartment.  I also can't ever keep my apartment door open, so the folks on the floor where I live think I'm kind of a hermit.  And yes, it does set a double standard, but so do a lot of the benefits live-in staff receive in many cases - the ability to have a spouse / significant other live-in also, no/different visitation restrictions, the ability to cook in the living space, etc.