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X11 future X11 future Desktop Environments Desktop Environments CERN IT/DIS/OSE: Paola Ciccarelli (Caspur) Lionel Cons Victor Robles Forcada German Cancio Melia PRESENTED BY: Philippe Defert
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Page 1: X11 future Desktop Environments CERN IT/DIS/OSE : Paola Ciccarelli (Caspur) Lionel Cons Victor Robles Forcada German Cancio Melia PRESENTED BY : Philippe.

X11 futureX11 futureDesktop EnvironmentsDesktop Environments

CERN IT/DIS/OSE:Paola Ciccarelli (Caspur)

Lionel Cons

Victor Robles Forcada

German Cancio Melia

PRESENTED BY:Philippe Defert

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PlanPlan

Introduction What is a desktop environment Desktop Environments: KDE and GNOME KDE vs GNOME: Technology CORBA:

What is it? How is it used in KDE and GNOME? KDE vs GNOME.

KDE vs GNOME: Applications HEP conclusions and questions

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INTRODUCTIONINTRODUCTION

UNIX/Linux is powerful and stable. Strong alternative for Windows => good user

interface. UNIX/Linux must be user-friendly. Average users don’t like: Command line, manual

configuration, etc. Many users expect: Menus, Panel, Drag & Drop,

mouse driven configuration, etc. CDE: First job related with this. June 1996. During the last 2 years Linux Community is

making a big job => KDE and GNOME

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What is a Desktop What is a Desktop Environment?Environment?

Common Drag & Drop protocol

Common Session Management protocol

Easy dialog based desktop configuration

Unified application help system

Consistent ‘look and feel’

Common application development framework

Compound document framework

Network transparency

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KDE KDE K Desktop EnvironmentK Desktop Environment

Dates: Project founded in October 1996 KDE v1.0 July 12, 1998 KDE v1.1 February 6, 1999 KDE v2.0 End of this summer???

Some interesting features: Based on toolkit Qt 1.42 (not GPL, Troll Tech) Standard menu and toolbars, keybindings, color schemes, etc. Built-in internationalization: more than 25 languages Large number of KDE applications. In version 1.1,

41 base applications Koffice: in version 2.0 using CORBA

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KDE ScreenshotKDE Screenshot

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GNOMEGNOMEGNU Network Object Model EnvironmentGNU Network Object Model Environment

Dates: GNOME project was initially announced in August 1997 GNOMEv1.0 7 April, 1999

Why not only KDE? It is based on Qt which is not open source.

Some features: Based on GTK+ (GPL) Build-in internationalization and localization 3D-programming with OpenGL Independent of Window Manager Fully integrated with CORBA Standard printing

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GNOME ScreenshotGNOME Screenshot

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KDE vs GNOME: KDE vs GNOME: Technology ITechnology I

KDE GNOMEToolkit Qt (C++) GTK+ (C)

Language bindingsfor the Toolkit

C, Python, Perl C++(Gtk--), Objective C,Python, Perl,Scheme(Guile), TOM,Pike(PiGTK), Dylan

WM Independent No => Yes Yes

Compliant WM KWMWindowMakerBlackBox

fvwmWindowMakerEnlightmentIceWMSCWMgtkWM

Themes Support Yes Yes

StandardKeybindings

Yes No

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KDE vs GNOME: KDE vs GNOME: Technology IITechnology II

KDE GNOMEDrag & Drop KDND

v2.0 => XDNDMotif, XDND

SessionManagement

Proprietary X Session ManagementProtocol

Documentationand Help System

Applications => HTMLSources => Kdoc

Applications =>DocBook (SGML)

Internationalization GNU gettext &LPGL i18n library

GNU gettext &LPGL i18n library

3D-Programming No OpenGL (gtkGL)

LanguageBindings

Python Dylan, Python,TOM, Perl, Guile

ScriptingLanguage

Python Python, Perl, Guile

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Conclusions (I)Conclusions (I)

KDE has an easier User Interface for beginners KDE is easier to install GNOME is technologically superior KDE gets closer to GNOME in v2.0 => XDND, WM

Independent, SGML. Interoperability between KDE and GNOME apps:

Drag & Drop: No until KDEv2.0 Session Management: No Help System: No (Try open his own help browser)

GNOME Office is more advanced

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CORBACORBACommon Object Request Broker Common Object Request Broker

ArchitectureArchitecture

CORBA allows applications to communicate with each other

CORBA is similar to DCOM, but more powerful CORBA is as next-generation RPC, just extended

to support object-oriented programming Why CORBA?

Solution for the IPC problem. Reduce development time Reduce maintenance difficulties Programs more powerful Simplify Compound Documents Automation

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CORBA in KDE: CORBA in KDE: KOM/OpenPartsKOM/OpenParts

ORB: MICO (C++) => Programs in C++ KOM: Events and Filters, Signals and Slots for

Plug-in or Dynamic Aggregation OpenParts:

Controls: Comparable to Microsoft’s Active X controls Parts: Improvements of controls

Is independent of the GUI => Standard for IPC Automation: Applications can export his inner

work through CORBA

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CORBA in GNOME: BaboonCORBA in GNOME: BaboonBaboon Allows Baboon Objects Over Baboon Allows Baboon Objects Over

NetworksNetworks

ORB: No MICO New ORB: ORBit (C) => Programs in C, C++

CORBA will be used in various contexts: Components Application embedding Automation Reusable controls

Is independent of the GUI => Standard for IPC

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KDE vs GNOME: CORBAKDE vs GNOME: CORBA

KDE GNOME WindowsStandards CORBA CORBA DCOM

KOM/OpenParts Baboon OLE

Components,Controls, Parts

Components,ReusableControls

Active XControls

ORB MICO (C++) ORBit (C)

CORBASTANDARD

CORBA 2.2 CORBA 2.2

DocumentModel

XML DOM

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Conclusions (II)Conclusions (II)CORBACORBA

The idea of use CORBA in KDE and GNOME is the same: components, controls, ...

MICO is slower than ORBit GNOME makes use of CORBA by default:

Panel, print, applets, programs. KDE plans to extend the use of CORBA to the

panel and to some applications (e.g korganizer).

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Conclusions (III)Conclusions (III)ApplicationsApplications

KDE for the moment has more and more complete set of applications

Tons of applications: Some useful, some buggy

KDE Best: kfm, PPP dialer, korganizer, kpackages, koffice (?)

GNOME Best: Electronic Eyes, gimp, gnumeric, gmenu, gmc, gcal

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HEPiX QuestionsHEPiX Questions

X desktops are a normal X follow up HEPiX X11 scripts

Common look and feel shared work Customization by site, group, user

HEPiX desktop ???? Do we do the same as with X11 ????

More Information:http://wwwinfo.cern.ch/umtf/working-groups/X11/desktops/

mailto:[email protected]


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