GSBUG Hardware Info SIG
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Agenda – January 8, 20047:00 – 7:05 Administration7:05 – 8:15 Featured Topic – Your New System
(2003 Update): Sourcing Your Components8:15 – 8:30 Hardware News8:30 – 8:55 Random Access (Q&A)8:55 – 9:00 Recap, Preview, and Close
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AdministrationWelcome! Please Sign In.What the SIG is…and is not.
Is - a resource for computer users and potential computer users
Is NOT – a cheap way to get your computer built or repaired (contact the GSBUG Daytime Hardware SIG)
Logs – Random Access/Q&A (First Come…)
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Administration (continued):Presentation materials will be posted at:http://gsbug.apcug.org/hwinfosig.htm
Prior presentation materials also posted.
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Your New System (2003 Update): Sourcing Givens (from the last meeting)
You have established your “budget”.You have developed and “finalized” your system spec, “finalized” your system spec,
i.e., you have defined a set of minimums:i.e., you have defined a set of minimums: Acceptable key components – as applicable, the CPU, RAM
type, chipset, graphics solution, and monitor type Acceptable other components – balance of the components
needed to complete your system.
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Your New System (2003 Upd): Sourcing (cont.)The Process
“Make or Buy” decisionDefine acceptable suppliers (type/issues)Locate suppliers Evaluate offeringsEvaluate offerings Make the purchasesMake the purchases Track, receive, inventory, and TEST.Track, receive, inventory, and TEST.
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Your New System (2003 Upd): Sourcing (cont.) “Make or Buy” decision
IF you are willing to consider “foregoing the experience” of building your own system, you have the established budget and spec with which to evaluate buying a pre-built system.
Possible advantages of buying pre-built System-level warranty and support Technical expertise (assumed) Cost may be lower
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Your New System (2003 Upd): Sourcing (cont.) “Make or Buy” decision (continued)
Possible disadvantages of buying pre-built Unknown components (salesperson may not know or be willing
to disclose, and/or the product may vary due to available inventory) – brand, model, OEM variations
Delays in getting problem resolved – shipping, onsite scheduling Unwillingness to attempt to resolve problems over the phone
without OS reload (restore to original software load). If “Buy”, many of the steps that follow will still be
applicable.
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GSBUG Hardware Info SIGYour New System (2003 Upd): Sourcing (cont.)Define acceptable suppliers (type/issues)
Local store “Local” (subject to small claims filing - up to $5K) Face-to-face – see who you’re dealing with Chance to see their “shop” Chance to negotiate BBB records References Available products - box vs. tray, bulk vs. retail “Cash discount”, sales tax Warranty/service – in store, “manufacturer’s”, on-site (system)
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GSBUG Hardware Info SIGYour New System (2003 Upd): Sourcing (cont.)Define acceptable suppliers (type/issues)(cont.)
Local computer “shows” (swap meets) “Local” vendors? All may not be local. Need to check. Face-to-face - see who you’re dealing with Would require a separate trip to see their “shop” Chance to negotiate BBB records – only if you call from the show (delay) References – less time to pursue (delay) Available products - box vs. tray, bulk vs. retail “Cash discount”; sales tax; different price after show Warranty/service - in store, “manufacturer’s”, on-site (system)
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GSBUG Hardware Info SIGYour New System (2003 Upd): Sourcing (cont.)Define acceptable suppliers (type/issues)(cont.)
Web “Local” vendors? Need to check. No “face-to-face” Would require a separate trip to see their “shop” No chance to negotiate; different price for non-web orders BBB records – still possible References – still possible Available products - box vs. tray, bulk vs. “retail”. Need to check. Shipping (and handling) cost, no cash discount, sales tax (still) Warranty/service – site’s, “manufacturer’s”, on-site (system)
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Your New System (2003 Upd): Sourcing (cont.)Define acceptable suppliers (type/issues)(cont.)
All sources – other issues Returns policy (return for refund or store credit)
Non-returnable items – CPU, RAM, hard drives, software Length of time (starting when?) Restocking fee DOA vs. defect (if defect, the replacement may NOT be new)
Order cancellation policy Credit card processing procedures – when charged; funds
“reservation” READ the fine print!!!
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Your New System (2003 Upd): Sourcing (cont.)Locate suppliers
Local store Yellow pages Local computer “rag” Saturday paper (LA Times sports section) Newspaper inserts Word of mouth/referrals.
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Your New System (2003 Upd): Sourcing (cont.)Locate suppliers (continued)
Local computer shows Web sites for the major shows
http://www.lacomputerfair.com/CFPages/schedule.html http://www.megashow.com/computer/schedule.html http://www.acpsuperstore.com/
Local computer “rag” Saturday paper (LA Times sports section) Flyers – “sign posts” Word of mouth/referrals.
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Your New System (2003 Upd): Sourcing (cont.)Locate suppliers (continued)
Web (specific brands) Manufacturer’s site (direct sales; retail model listing; retailer
links) Compaq/HP Dell IBM Hundreds of others (Gateway, MPC…)
Web (specific retailers) Sites for major retail chains – Best Buy, CompUSA, Circuit City,
Fry’s (outpost.com), Micro Center, Office Depot, Staples
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Your New System (2003 Upd): Sourcing (cont.)Locate suppliers (continued)
Web (pricing engines) http://www.pricewatch.com http://www.pricegrabber.com http://shopper.cnet.com http://www.pricescan.com http://www.streetprices.com http://www.sharkyextreme.com
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GSBUG Hardware Info SIGYour New System (2003 Upd): Sourcing (cont.) Evaluate offerings (TOTAL “cost” view)Evaluate offerings (TOTAL “cost” view)
Match or exceed your spec?Within budget?Match your criteria for an acceptable supplier?Acceptable warranty and support?Acceptable returns policy?List known negatives, if any, for each purchase
Go back for more?Bottom line – make a decision!
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GSBUG Hardware Info SIGYour New System (2003 Upd): Sourcing (cont.) Make the purchasesMake the purchases
Prefer credit card purchase over any form of “cash” – credit card “charge-back” ability is GOLD! Credit card company/bank will typically support the card holder once merchandise has been returned (POD). [Rejects!]
Attempt to get the product warranty and support terms spelled out on the invoice; if web order, print the associated spec, pricing, and “terms” pages (dates)
Invoice should have the supplier’s name, address, and phone number PRE-printed (attach a business card); note salesperson’s name (in full)
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GSBUG Hardware Info SIGYour New System (2003 Upd): Sourcing (cont.) Make the purchases (continued)Make the purchases (continued)
Understand and document the “order cancellation policy” and credit card processing “procedures”
Understand and document the “returns policy” If web, print out the order confirmation; note tracking
site/infoTry to schedule the purchases such that the hardware is
received about the same time – need to test the pieces together (avoid being unable to return for credit because of lapse of time).
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GSBUG Hardware Info SIGYour New System (2003 Upd): Sourcing (cont.) Track, receive, inventory, and TESTTrack, receive, inventory, and TEST
If web, track the parts until received. If the shipment If web, track the parts until received. If the shipment hasn’t departed the supplier by the second business day hasn’t departed the supplier by the second business day after purchase, contact the supplier by phone.after purchase, contact the supplier by phone.
Inspect the exterior of the package BEFORE accepting it Inspect the exterior of the package BEFORE accepting it – if it shows substantial damage or if it doesn’t match what – if it shows substantial damage or if it doesn’t match what you ordered (as best you can tell), reject the shipment! you ordered (as best you can tell), reject the shipment!
Once accepted, carefully unpack and check for the Once accepted, carefully unpack and check for the “retail”/manufacturer’s seal. If missing, so note and watch “retail”/manufacturer’s seal. If missing, so note and watch for indications that the product has been used or is OEM.for indications that the product has been used or is OEM.
Keep all packaging materials!Keep all packaging materials!
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Your New System (2003 Upd): Sourcing (cont.) Track, receive, inventory, and TEST (continued)Track, receive, inventory, and TEST (continued)
Inventory the contents – is everything there? Compare to the packing slip and any Bill of Material that may be on the side of a retail box. Immediately notify the supplier of any missing or mismatched items. Good luck!
If it appears that anything has been used, you need to If it appears that anything has been used, you need to immediately decide whether to contact the vendor to get a immediately decide whether to contact the vendor to get a replacement or to proceed. If you proceed, your chances replacement or to proceed. If you proceed, your chances of getting a replacement after that point are nil - unless of getting a replacement after that point are nil - unless defective. defective.
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Your New System (2003 Upd): Sourcing (cont.) Track, receive, inventory, and TEST (continued)Track, receive, inventory, and TEST (continued)
Once you are satisfied everything is there and appears in good, apparently functional condition, proceed to partial assembly and test.
Testing should ONLY be done with the components you will actually be using in the system. Anything else is a potential mismatch which can lead to false positives and/or false negatives.
If any component fails to function, is “noisy”, or otherwise evidences a defect, immediately contact the vendor.
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Your New System (2003 Upd): Sourcing (cont.) If you’ve gotten this far OK, you’re ready for next
month’s presentation on initial system assembly.
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Hardware NewsProcessors
AMD released the Athlon 64 3000+ (2.0GHz, 512K L2) and the Athlon 64 3400+ (2.2GHz, 1MB L2) – simple line extensions.
Core Logic (chipsets)VIA released the K8M800 Northbridge for AMD Athlon 64
processors – integrated S3 UniChrome Pro graphics controller (lower mid-range capability).
System RAM – nothing new
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GSBUG Hardware Info SIGHardware NewsMotherboards
Gigabyte released the GA-8TRS300M microATX, Pentium 4 board based on the ATI 9100 IGP.
Graphics processors & cardsMatrox announced the “Parhelia PCI 256MB” – first
Parhelia-bases high performance, PCI card; wide range on monitor configurations supported (up to 9.2 MP) including dual head and triple head.
S3 announced that 3D-Club (Europe) will be producing cards based on its DeltaChrome technology – no spec.
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Hardware News (continued)Hard Drives – nothing newHard Drive Controllers – nothing newOther Drives
Lite-On released the LDW-851SX external 8X dual-mode DVD burner – USB 2.0 interface, 40x24x40 CD.
Sony (in October) released the DRU-530A (internal) and DRX-530UL (external) 8X, dual-mode DVD burners – interface for external unknown (no spec), 40x24x40 CD.
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Hardware News (continued)Other Drives (continued)
Teac released the DV-W58E 8/4/12/32/16/40 DVD+RW internal drive – no spec available.
Sound processors & cards – nothing newModems & NICs – nothing newChassis & power supplies – nothing new
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Recap, Preview, and CloseRecapPreview
No meeting in February (SIG Leader out of town)Featured Topic for March 11, 2004 – Your New System
(2003 Update): Setting Up/Installing Your Motherboard, CPU, and System RAM
Close (please police up the area)