Nuclear forces from chiraleffective field theory:
Achievements and challenges
R. Machleidt R. Machleidt
University of IdahoUniversity of Idaho
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OutlineOutline
• Nuclear forces from chiral EFT: Nuclear forces from chiral EFT:
Basic ideas and resultsBasic ideas and results
• Are we done? Are we done? No!No!
• Proper renormalization of chiral forcesProper renormalization of chiral forces
• Sub-leading many-body forcesSub-leading many-body forces
• Is THE END near?Is THE END near?
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From QCD to nuclear physics via chiral From QCD to nuclear physics via chiral EFT (in a nutshell)EFT (in a nutshell)
• QCD at low energy is strong.QCD at low energy is strong.
• Quarks and gluons are confined into Quarks and gluons are confined into colorless hadrons.colorless hadrons.
• Nuclear forces are residual forces Nuclear forces are residual forces (similar to van der Waals forces)(similar to van der Waals forces)
• Separation of scalesSeparation of scales
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• Calls for an EFT Calls for an EFT
soft scale: Q ≈ msoft scale: Q ≈ mπ π ,, hard scale: Λhard scale: Λχ χ ≈ m ≈ mρ ρ ; ; pions and nucleon relevant d.o.f. pions and nucleon relevant d.o.f.
•Low-energy expansion: (Q/ΛLow-energy expansion: (Q/Λχχ))ν ν
with ν bounded from below.with ν bounded from below.
•Most general Lagrangian consistent with Most general Lagrangian consistent with all symmetries of low-energy QCD.all symmetries of low-energy QCD.
•π-π and π-N perturbativelyπ-π and π-N perturbatively
•NN has bound states:NN has bound states:
(i) NN potential perturbatively(i) NN potential perturbatively
(ii) apply nonpert. in LS equation. (ii) apply nonpert. in LS equation.
(Weinberg) (Weinberg)
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2N forces 3N forces 4N forces
Leading Order
Next-to-Next-to Leading Order
Next-to-Next-to-Next-to Leading Order
Next-to Leading Order
The Hierarchy of Nuclear
Forces
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NN phase shifts up to 300 MeVRed Line: N3LO Potential by Entem & Machleidt, PRC 68, 041001 (2003).Green dash-dotted line: NNLO Potential, and blue dashed line: NLO Potential by Epelbaum et al., Eur. Phys. J. A19, 401 (2004).
LO
NLO
NNLON3LO
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N3LO Potential by Entem & Machleidt, PRC 68, 041001 (2003).NNLO and NLO Potentials by Epelbaum et al., Eur. Phys. J. A19, 401 (2004).
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This is, of course, all very nice;However there is a “hidden” issue
here that needs our attention:Renormalization
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“I about got this one renormalized”
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The issue has produced lots and lots of papers; this is just a small sub-selection.
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Now, what’s so important with this renormalization?
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The EFT approach is not just another
phenomenology. It’s field theory.
The problem in all field theories are
divergent loop integrals.
The method to deal with them in field theories:
1. Regularize the integral (e.g. apply a “cutoff”) to make it finite.2. Remove the cutoff dependence
by Renormalization (“counter
terms”).
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For calculating pi-pi and pi-NFor calculating pi-pi and pi-Nreactions no problem.reactions no problem.
However, the NN case is tougher,However, the NN case is tougher,because it involves because it involves two kinds two kinds of (divergent) loop integrals.of (divergent) loop integrals.
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The first kind:The first kind:
• ““NN Potential”: NN Potential”:
irreducible diagrams calculated perturbatively. irreducible diagrams calculated perturbatively.
Example:Example:
Counterterms
perturbative renormalization (order by order)
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The first kind:The first kind:
• ““NN Potential”: NN Potential”:
irreducible diagrams calculated perturbatively. irreducible diagrams calculated perturbatively.
Example:Example:
Counterterms
perturbative renormalization (order by order)
This is fine.
No
problems.
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The second The second kind:kind:• Application of the NN Pot. in the Schrodinger or Application of the NN Pot. in the Schrodinger or
Lippmann-Schwinger (LS) equation: non-Lippmann-Schwinger (LS) equation: non-perturbative summation of ladder diagrams perturbative summation of ladder diagrams (infinite sum):(infinite sum):
16161616
In diagrams: T = + + + …
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The second The second kind:kind:• Application of the NN Pot. in the Schrodinger or Application of the NN Pot. in the Schrodinger or
Lippmann-Schwinger (LS) equation: non-Lippmann-Schwinger (LS) equation: non-perturbative summation of ladder diagrams perturbative summation of ladder diagrams (infinite sum):(infinite sum):
• Divergent integral.Divergent integral.
• Regularize it:Regularize it:
• Cutoff dependent results.Cutoff dependent results.
• Renormalize to get rid of the cutoff dependence:Renormalize to get rid of the cutoff dependence:
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The second The second kind:kind:• Application of the NN Pot. in the Schrodinger or Application of the NN Pot. in the Schrodinger or
Lippmann-Schwinger (LS) equation: non-Lippmann-Schwinger (LS) equation: non-perturbative summation of ladder diagrams perturbative summation of ladder diagrams (infinite sum):(infinite sum):
• Divergent integral.Divergent integral.
• Regularize it:Regularize it:
• Cutoff dependent results.Cutoff dependent results.
• Renormalize to get rid of the cutoff dependence:Renormalize to get rid of the cutoff dependence:
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With what to renormalize this time?
Weinberg’s silent assumption:
The same counter terms as before.
(“Weinberg counting”)
Weinberg counting fails already in Leading Weinberg counting fails already in Leading OrderOrder
(for (for Λ Λ ∞ renormalization) ∞ renormalization)
•
• 3S1 and 1S0 (with a caveat) renormalizable with 3S1 and 1S0 (with a caveat) renormalizable with LO counter terms.LO counter terms.
• However, where OPE tensor force attractive:However, where OPE tensor force attractive:
3P0, 3P2, 3D2, …3P0, 3P2, 3D2, …
a counter term a counter term
must be added.must be added.
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“Modified Weinberg counting” for LO
Nogga, Timmermans, v. Nogga, Timmermans, v. Kolck Kolck PRC72, 054006 (2005):PRC72, 054006 (2005):
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Quantitative chiral NN potentials are at N3LO. So, we need to go substantially beyond LO.
• Nonperturbative or perturbative?Nonperturbative or perturbative?
• Infinite cutoff or finite cutoff?Infinite cutoff or finite cutoff?
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Renormalization beyond leading Renormalization beyond leading order –order –
IssuesIssues
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• Nonperturbative or perturbative?Nonperturbative or perturbative?
• Infinite cutoff or finite cutoff?Infinite cutoff or finite cutoff?
Renormalization beyond leading Renormalization beyond leading order –order –
IssuesIssues
• In lower partial waves (In lower partial waves (≅≅ short distances), in general, no short distances), in general, no order by order convergence; data are not reproduced.order by order convergence; data are not reproduced.
• In peripheral partial waves (In peripheral partial waves (≅≅ long distances), always long distances), always good convergence and reproduction of the data.good convergence and reproduction of the data.
• Thus, long-range interaction o.k., short-range not (should Thus, long-range interaction o.k., short-range not (should not be a surprise: the EFT is designed for Q < Λχ).not be a surprise: the EFT is designed for Q < Λχ).
• At all orders, either one (if pot. attractive) or no (if pot. At all orders, either one (if pot. attractive) or no (if pot. repulsive) counterterm, per partial wave: What kind of repulsive) counterterm, per partial wave: What kind of power counting scheme is this? power counting scheme is this?
• Where are the systematic order by order improvements?Where are the systematic order by order improvements?
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Option 1: Nonperturbative infinite-cutoff Option 1: Nonperturbative infinite-cutoff renormalization up to N3LOrenormalization up to N3LO
Observations and problemsObservations and problems
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• In lower partial waves (In lower partial waves (≅≅ short distances), in short distances), in general, no order by order convergence; data are not general, no order by order convergence; data are not reproduced.reproduced.
• In peripheral partial waves (In peripheral partial waves (≅≅ long distances), long distances), always good convergence and reproduction of the always good convergence and reproduction of the data.data.
• Thus, long-range interaction o.k., short-range not Thus, long-range interaction o.k., short-range not (should not be a surprise: the EFT is designed for Q (should not be a surprise: the EFT is designed for Q < Λχ).< Λχ).
• At all orders, either one (if pot. attractive) or no (if At all orders, either one (if pot. attractive) or no (if pot. repulsive) counterterm, per partial wave: What pot. repulsive) counterterm, per partial wave: What kind of power counting scheme is this? kind of power counting scheme is this?
• Where are the systematic order by order Where are the systematic order by order improvements?improvements?
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Option 1: Nonperturbative infinite-cutoff Option 1: Nonperturbative infinite-cutoff renormalization up to N3LOrenormalization up to N3LO
Observations and problemsObservations and problems
No good!
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Option 2: Perturbative, using DWBA Option 2: Perturbative, using DWBA and finite cutoff (Valderrama ‘11)and finite cutoff (Valderrama ‘11)
• Renormalize LO non-perturbatively with finite Renormalize LO non-perturbatively with finite cutoff using modified Weinberg counting.cutoff using modified Weinberg counting.
• Use the distorted LO wave to calculate higher Use the distorted LO wave to calculate higher orders in perturbation theory.orders in perturbation theory.
• At NLO, 3 counterterms for 1S0 and 6 for 3S1: a At NLO, 3 counterterms for 1S0 and 6 for 3S1: a power-counting scheme that allows for power-counting scheme that allows for systematic improvements order by order systematic improvements order by order emerges.emerges.
• Results for NN scattering o.k., so, in principal, Results for NN scattering o.k., so, in principal, the scheme works.the scheme works.
• But how practical is this scheme in nuclear But how practical is this scheme in nuclear structure?structure?
• LO interaction has huge tensor force, huge LO interaction has huge tensor force, huge wound integral; wound integral; bad convergence of the bad convergence of the many-body problem. Impractical!many-body problem. Impractical!
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• Renormalize LO non-perturbatively with finite Renormalize LO non-perturbatively with finite cutoff using modified Weinberg counting.cutoff using modified Weinberg counting.
• Use the distorted LO wave to calculate higher Use the distorted LO wave to calculate higher orders in perturbation theory.orders in perturbation theory.
• At NLO, 3 counterterms for 1S0 and 6 for 3S1: a At NLO, 3 counterterms for 1S0 and 6 for 3S1: a power-counting scheme that allows for power-counting scheme that allows for systematic improvements order by order systematic improvements order by order emerges.emerges.
• Results for NN scattering o.k., so, in principal, Results for NN scattering o.k., so, in principal, the scheme works.the scheme works.
• But how practical is this scheme in nuclear But how practical is this scheme in nuclear structure?structure?
• LO interaction has huge tensor force, huge LO interaction has huge tensor force, huge wound integral; wound integral; bad convergence of the bad convergence of the many-body problem. Impractical!many-body problem. Impractical!
For considerations
of the NN
amplitude o.k.
But impractical fo
r
nuclear stru
cture
applications.
Option 2: Perturbative, using DWBA Option 2: Perturbative, using DWBA and finite cutoff (Valderrama ‘11)and finite cutoff (Valderrama ‘11)
Option 3: Rethink the problem Option 3: Rethink the problem from scratchfrom scratch
• EFFECTIVE EFFECTIVE field theory for Q ≤ Λχ ≈ 1 GeV.field theory for Q ≤ Λχ ≈ 1 GeV.
• So, you have to expect garbage above Λχ.So, you have to expect garbage above Λχ.
• The garbage may even converge, but that The garbage may even converge, but that doesn’t convert the garbage into the good doesn’t convert the garbage into the good stuff (Epelbaum & Gegelia ‘09).stuff (Epelbaum & Gegelia ‘09).
• So, stay away from territory that isn’t So, stay away from territory that isn’t covered by the EFT.covered by the EFT.
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• Nonperturbative or perturbative?Nonperturbative or perturbative?
• Infinite cutoff or finite cutoff?Infinite cutoff or finite cutoff?
Renormalization beyond leading Renormalization beyond leading order –order –
IssuesIssues
Option 3: Nonperturbative using finite Option 3: Nonperturbative using finite cutoffs ≤ Λχ ≈ 1 GeV.cutoffs ≤ Λχ ≈ 1 GeV.
Goal: Find “cutoff independence” for a Goal: Find “cutoff independence” for a certain finite range below 1 GeV.certain finite range below 1 GeV.
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Very recently, a systematic investigation of this kind has been conducted by us at NLO using Weinberg Counting, i.e.
2 contacts in each S-wave(used to adjust scatt. length and eff. range),
1 contact in each P-wave(used to adjust phase shift at low energy).
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Note that the real thing are DATA (not phase shifts), e.g., NN cross sections, etc. Therefore better: Look for cutoff independence in the description of the data.
Notice, however, that there are many data (about 6000 NNData below 350 MeV). Therefore, it makes no senseto look at single data sets (observables). Instead, one shouldcalculate
with N the number of NN data in a certain energy range.
χ 2 =zitheory − zi
exp( )2
Δziexp( )
2i=1
i=N
∑
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Χ2/datum for the neutron-proton data as functionof cutoff in energy intervals as denoted
There is a range of cutoff independence!
InvestigationsAt NNLO and N3LOAre under way.
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Chiral three-nucleon forces (3NF)
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2N forces 3N forces 4N forces
Leading Order
Next-to-Next-to Leading Order
Next-to-Next-to-Next-to Leading Order
Next-to Leading Order
The Hierarchy of Nuclear
Forces
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2N forces 3N forces 4N forces
Leading Order
Next-to-Next-to Leading Order
Next-to-Next-to-Next-to Leading Order
Next-to Leading Order
The Hierarchy of Nuclear
Forces
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2N forces 3N forces 4N forces
Leading Order
Next-to-Next-to Leading Order
Next-to-Next-to-Next-to Leading Order
Next-to Leading Order
The Hierarchy of Nuclear
Forces
The 3NFat NNLO;
used so far.
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Calculating the properties of light nuclei usingCalculating the properties of light nuclei usingchiral 2N and 3N forces chiral 2N and 3N forces
“No-Core Shell Model “ Calculations by P. Navratil et al.,
LLNL
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2N (N3LO) force only
Calculating the properties of light nuclei usingCalculating the properties of light nuclei usingchiral 2N and 3N forces chiral 2N and 3N forces
“No-Core Shell Model “ Calculations by P. Navratil et al.,
LLNL
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2N (N3LO) force only
Calculating the properties of light nuclei usingCalculating the properties of light nuclei usingchiral 2N and 3N forces chiral 2N and 3N forces
2N (N3LO) +3N (N2LO)
forces
“No-Core Shell Model “ Calculations by P. Navratil et al.,
LLNL
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AnalyzingPower
Ay
p-d
p-3He
2NF only
2NF+3NFCalculations bythe Pisa Group
2NF only
2NF+3NF
The Ay puzzle is NOT solved
by the 3NF at NNLO.
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And so,And so,we need 3NFs beyond NNLO,we need 3NFs beyond NNLO,because …because …
• The 2NF is N3LO;The 2NF is N3LO;
consistency requires that all consistency requires that all contributions are included up to the contributions are included up to the same order.same order.
• There are unresolved problems in 3N There are unresolved problems in 3N and 4N scattering, and nuclear and 4N scattering, and nuclear structure.structure.
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The 3NFat NNLO;
used so far.
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Ishikawa & Robilotta,PRC 76, 014006 (2007)
Bernard,Epelbaum,Krebs,Meissner,PRC 77, 064004 (2008)
Bernard et al., arXiv:1108.3816
The 3NF at N3LO explicitlyOne-loop, leading vertices
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The 3NFat NNLO;
used so far.
Small?!
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✗
1-looplead. vert.
1-loopOne ci vert.
Corresponding 2NF contributions
2π
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✗
1-looplead. vert.
1-loopOne ci vert.
Corresponding 2NF contributions
2π 3π
Kaiser (2000)
Kaiser (2001)
Small
Large!!
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The 3NFat NNLO;
used so far.
Small?!
Large?!
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The N4LO 3NF 2PE-1PE diagrams
Many new isospin/spin/momentum structures,some similar to N3LO 2PE-1PE 3NF.
Still a lot to come in the 3NF
business.
Stay tuned!
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The 3NFat NNLO;
used so far.
Small?!
Large?!
And there is alsothe Δ-full version
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Small?!
The 3NFat NNLO;
used so far.
Large?!
And there is alsothe Δ-full version
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What’s the better approach is a matter of taste
•Bochum (E. Epelbaum & H. Krebs) pursues Δ-full
• Idaho (R. M. & D. R. Entem) Δ-less
ConclusionsConclusions
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• The chiral EFT approach has substantially The chiral EFT approach has substantially advanced our understanding of nuclear advanced our understanding of nuclear forces. forces.
• One major milestone of the past decade: One major milestone of the past decade: “high precision” NN pots. at N3LO.“high precision” NN pots. at N3LO.
• But there are still some open issues:But there are still some open issues:
• The renormalization of the chiral 2NFThe renormalization of the chiral 2NF
• Sub-leading 3NFsSub-leading 3NFs
• Forget about non-perturbative infinite-cutoff Forget about non-perturbative infinite-cutoff reno: not convergent (in low partial waves reno: not convergent (in low partial waves ≅≅ short distances), should not be a surprise; short distances), should not be a surprise; no clear power counting scheme, no no clear power counting scheme, no systematic improvements order by order.systematic improvements order by order.
• Perturbative beyond LO: academically Perturbative beyond LO: academically interesting (cf. good work by Valderrama); interesting (cf. good work by Valderrama); but impractical in nuclear structure but impractical in nuclear structure applications, tensor force (wound integral) applications, tensor force (wound integral) too large.too large.
• Identify “Cutoff Independence” within a Identify “Cutoff Independence” within a range ≤ Λχ ≈1 GeV. Most realistic approach range ≤ Λχ ≈1 GeV. Most realistic approach (Lepage!). I have demonstrated this at NLO (Lepage!). I have demonstrated this at NLO (NNLO and N3LO to come, stay tuned).(NNLO and N3LO to come, stay tuned).
R. MachleidtR. MachleidtNuclear Forces from ChEFT Nuclear Forces from ChEFT APFB2011, Seoul, 08/22/2011 APFB2011, Seoul, 08/22/2011 5353
Concerning the Concerning the renormalization renormalization issue,issue,we take the view:we take the view:
3NF issue3NF issue
• The 3NF at NNLO is insufficient.The 3NF at NNLO is insufficient.
• The 3NF at N3LO (in the The 3NF at N3LO (in the ΔΔ-less theory) is -less theory) is probably weak.probably weak.
• However, large 3NFs with many new However, large 3NFs with many new structures to be expected at N3LO of structures to be expected at N3LO of ΔΔ-full -full or N4LO at or N4LO at ΔΔ-less. Construction is under -less. Construction is under way.way.
• There will be many new 3NFs to check out There will be many new 3NFs to check out in the near future. Stay tuned.in the near future. Stay tuned.
R. MachleidtR. MachleidtNuclear Forces from ChEFT Nuclear Forces from ChEFT APFB2011, Seoul, 08/22/2011 APFB2011, Seoul, 08/22/2011 5454
R. MachleidtR. MachleidtNuclear Forces from ChEFT Nuclear Forces from ChEFT APFB2011, Seoul, 08/22/2011 APFB2011, Seoul, 08/22/2011 5555
And so, we are not yet completely done with the
nuclear force problem, but …