SPI 234
Teens Can Be Entrepreneurs Too, with Eva BakerOctober 5, 2016
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Pat: ThisistheSmartPassiveIncomepodcastwithPatFlynn,session
number234.[music]
Announcer: WelcometotheSmartPassiveIncomepodcast,whereit’sallabout
workinghardnowsoyoucansitbackandreapthebenefitslater.
Nowyourhost,gameficationishistruemotivation,PatFlynn.
Pat: What’supeverybody?PatFlynnhere.Thankyousomuchfor
joiningmetodayinsession234oftheSPIpodcast.Iappreciate
it.I’mreallyexcitedbecausewe’veinterviewedalotofguestsof
alldifferentageshereontheshow,allthewaydowntoIthink
age8atonepoint,wehadaguest.Shewasamazing.Wehave
anotherpersonontheshowwho’squiteyoung,alittlebitolder,has
graduatedhighschool,butshestartedherentrepreneurialjourney
whileshewasinhighschool.She’sthefounderofTeensGotCents.
com,alsothefounderofTheTeenpreneurConference,andjustan
amazingperson.Shedoesconsultingandshe’ssoyoungandit
makesmethinksometimes,manwhatwasIdoingbackthen?Ionly
wishIhadlearnedaboutthisentrepreneurstuffmuchearlier.
Ifyouhappentohaveteensoryoungkids,evenifthey’renot
teenagersyet,thiswillbeaveryinspiringepisode.Evenifyou’re
notateen,Iwouldstillrecommendyoulistentothis,becausethisis
somethingthat’sdefinitelybeenmotivatingforme.Itdefinitelygives
methekickinthepantstojust...Man,Igottogetmystuffdone
becausetherearesomeyounggunsouttherewhoaredoingsome
amazingthingsandIgottocatchup.I’mmorethanhappytohave
hadthischatwithEvaBakerandsharethiswithyoutoday.Again,
she’sthefounderofTeensGotCents.comandalsoTheTeenpreneur
Conference.Somebodywho’veI’vemetacoupletimesinthepast
attheFinancialBloggerConference,andjustincredibly,incredibly
inspiringandsomuchenergywithher.You’llhearherandwhat
she’sbeenuptoandhowshegotstartedandwhatherplansare
forthefuture.Herewego.
I’monlinewithEvaBaker.Eva,thankyousomuchforcomingtothe
show.WelcometotheSmartPassiveIncomepodcast.Howareyou?
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Eva: I’mdoinggreat.Thankyousomuchforhavingme.
Pat: Yeah,absolutely.I’mreallyexcitedtotalktoyoubecauseIhave
twokidsmyself.They’reonlysixandthree,butthey’regoingtobe
teenagersonedayandthat’sreallywhoyouspeakto.Youhelp
teenagerslearnentrepreneurshipandIthinkthat’ssocool.Youalso
talktotheparentsofteenagersandkidstohelpthemencourage
theirkidstopursueentrepreneurship,too.Beforewegetintoall
thatandtalkaboutthatwholeworld,I’dlovetoknowmoreabout
yourstory.Whendidyoustarttogetinvolvedinentrepreneurship?
I’mthinkingaboutmyjourney,Ididn’tevenconsidermyselftobean
entrepreneuruntilalmostmylate20s.Hereyouare,startingoutas
ateenageralreadydoingthat.Why?What’syouroriginstory?
Eva: Myfamily,meandmybrother,wewerehomeschooledgrowing
upandandformyjuniorandsenioryearofhighschool,mymom
wantedmetocompletesomekindofmeaningfulproject,something
tojustgrowlifeskillsandcommunicationskills,andallofthatgood
stuff.Ihadtodoaproject,butIgottochoosewhatitwasabout.I
hadabsolutelynoideawhatIwantedtodomyprojecton,because
maybeIdidn’treallywanttodoaschoolproject,butIhadto.
Aroundthattime,myparentsweregoingthroughadivorceandmy
momwasjusttryingtogetbackonherfeetfinancially.Shewanted
toreadTheTotalMoneyMakeoverbyDaveRamsey,butshedidn’t
wanttospendthemoneybuyingthebook,sowewenttothelibrary
andtheyonlyhaditonaudiotape.At15,Ihadtolistentoitwith
herinthecar,whichwasnotthrillingatall.AsIwaslistening,Iwas
reallyunderstandingwhathewassaying.Moneyhadneverbeen
somethingthatwastabooinourfamily.Myparentshaddonethe
envelopesystemwithmeandmybrothersinceIwasfive,andhad
alwaysbeenveryopenwithusabouttheirbudgetandveryhands
onintryingtoeducateusinthosekindsofthings.
AsIwaslisteningtohim,toDave,andhe’stalkingaboutthese
babystepsthatyoucantaketogetyourselfoutofdebtandtostart
savingforyourretirement.Ijuststartedthinking,Idon’twantto
havetoeverfollowthisplanandtakethesesteps.Idon’teverwant
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tohavedebtinthefirstplace.
OfcourseIhadbeenfortunateenoughthatmyparentshad
educatedmesomewhatonbudgeting.Istartedlookingonline,just
tofindsomemoreeducationandthere’sreallynotalotoutthere
forteens.Ofcoursethere’ssomanygreatresourcesforadultsto
helpthemmakeabudget,helpthemgetthemselvesoutofdebt,
helpthemsavefortheirretirement.There’sreallynoeducationfor
teensonlineandit’snothappeninginschools.Alotofparentsdon’t
feelqualifiedtogivethatkindofeducation,sokidsgrowupandwe
goofftocollegeandwegetamassiveamountofstudentloandebt
andcreditcarddebt,becausewedon’tknowanybetter.Noone
taughtushowtohandleourmoney.
AsIrealizedthosethings,IdecidedwhatIwantedmyprojectto
beandIlaunchedmywebsite,TeensGotCents.com,whereIblog
aboutthingslikehowtogetgooddealswhenyou’reshoppingand
howtosaveyourmoney,howtobudget,justbasicbudgetingskills,
howtogotocollegedebtfree,howtogetagreatpart-timejob,all
ofthosekindsofthings.AsI’vebeengrowingupandboughtmy
firstcar,goingtocollege,justsharingthoseexperiencesinhopesof
givingteensthatbasicknowledgeofhowtohandlemoneywisely,
becauseIbelievethatthesooneryoucandothat,thesooneryou
canstartreachingyourgoals.
Pat: Thatwasfortheschoolproject.You’vesincethen,justkeptitgoing.
Howmuchhasitgrownsincethen?
Eva: Ithasgrownalot.Ijustexpectedtobedoingthisfortwoyears,
untilIgraduatedandeveryyearitjustgrewandgrewandisnow
myfull-timebusiness.Iabsolutelyloveit.Oneoftheopportunities
thatI’vehadbecauseofthewebsiteisgettingtoattendFinCon,
whichiswhereImetyou,whichisofcourseaconferencethatisall
forpersonalfinancebloggers.Iwas17thefirsttimeIwent,coming
tothisveryprofessionalconference.Ihadneverbeentoanykind
ofconferencelikethatbefore.Ihadnoideahowthesepeoplewere
goingtoacceptmeorwhattheyweregoingtothinkofthis17year
oldwhohadbeenbloggingfortwomonths.
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IwentandIwassoamazedwiththepeoplethatIfoundthere.Itis
suchagreatcommunityofbusinessownerswhoalthoughwe’reall
inthesamemarket,we’reallcompetitorsinsomeway.Everyone
justcomestogethertoencourageandsupporteachotherinwhat
Ithinkisabeautifulway.IhavetoattributealotofthesuccessI’ve
hadwithTeensGotCentstotheFinConcommunityhelpingmeout
andteachingmeeverythingIdidn’tknowwhenIwasfirststarting
andallowingmetoguestpostandbeontheirpodcastsandallof
thosekindsofthings.It’sbeenagreatcommunitytobeapartof
thatI’veabsolutelyloved.
Becauseofthat,goingtothisconference,Ithoughttomyself,hey,
IwouldbereallycoolifIhostedaconferenceforteens.IthoughtI
hadareallygoodideaatthetimethatIwouldhostaconferenceall
aboutpersonalfinancewhereteenscouldcomeandlearnhowto
avoidstudentloandebtandlearnhowtobudgetandallofthisstuff.
Ithoughtitwasgoingtobegreat,andthenIwokeuponemorning.
Iwasstillinthebeginningstagesofplanningthatandrealizedthat’s
themostboringconferenceever.Noone’sgoingtowanttocome
that.Noteenisgoingtowanttocometothatconference.
IputthatonthebackburnerandlastyearatFinConasIwas
sittingaroundalloftheseamazingotherentrepreneursand
businessowners,Ijust,itreallygotmethinkingthatIwishIhada
waytoconnectwithpeoplemyownageonthatkindofleveland
experiencethecamaraderiethatIwasexperiencingwitheveryone
atFinCon,withotherteens.Thatgavemetheideatohosta
conferenceforteenentrepreneurs,sothatiswhatIhavebeen
workingonforthepast,about10months,planningthisconference.
It’sTheTeenpreneurConference.It’sforteenswhohavetheirown
businessorwhoareinterestedinstartingone,orteenswhoarejust
interestedinentrepreneurshipingeneralcancome.We’regoing
tohaveclasseslikehowtowriteoutabusinessmodelandhowto
usesocialmediaeffectively,howtocommunicatewellwithyour
customers,allofthesetypesofthingsthatyouneedtoknowwhen
runningabusiness.
Morethanthat,Iwanttheconferencetobeaplacewhereteens
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canexperiencethekindofatmospherethatI’dexperiencedatFin
Con,teenswhoaregettingbehindeachotherinarealway,and
supportingoneanotherandhavingfuntogether,andpromoting
oneanother.Thatismydream,andtheconferenceiscomingup
verysoonandI’mreallyexcitedaboutit.
Pat: Yeah,I’mexcitedtohearaboutit,too.Bythetimethisepisode
comesout,theconferencewillhavealreadyhappened.Bestofluck
toyouonthat.I’mreallyexcitedabouthearingaboutallthenews.
Peoplearegoingtolovejustthecontent.Iwishitwassomething
thatwasavailablewhenIwasinterestedinentrepreneurship,but
ofcourseIwasn’tinterestedinentrepreneurshipwhenIwasa
teenager.WhenIwasteenagerIwasintoplayingvideogamesand
hangingoutwithfriendsangoingtomoviesandstuff.You’renotthe
typicalteenager,Eva,Ithink.I’dlovetoknowfromyourownwords,
whydoyoufeelthatyouhaveallthisenergytodothesethingsthat
you’redoing?Whereisthisinspirationcomingfrom?
Eva: WhenIgottheideatohostthisconferenceforotherteen
entrepreneurs,Istartedjustrandomlycallingotherteenbusiness
ownersthatIwasfindingonlineandjusthavingconversationswith
themabouttheirbusiness.Itwassonicetotalktootherteenswho
arerunningabusinesslikeIam.Wehadsomuchincommon.One
ofthecommonthemesintheconversationsIwashavingwithall
ofthesedifferentteens,nomatterwhattheirbusinesswas,this
isolationthatwefeel,thatwefeellikewe’retheonlypersonour
ageinourcommunitydoingwhatwe’redoing.
Inasensethatisolationisveryreal,butit’snotnecessarilytrue.
Teenentrepreneurshipisbecomingmoreandmorepopular.There
areacrazyamountofteensouttherewhoareinsomewayrunning
theirownbusiness.Mygoalistocreateawaywherewecanfinally
allconnectwitheachotherandnotfeelsoaloneanymore,thatwe
canallsupporteachothertogether.
Pat: Evenbeforetheconference,evenwhenyoustartedyour
TeensGotCents.comblog,haveyoualwayshadtheentrepreneurial
buginyou,andifnot,wherediditcomefrom?
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Eva: Idon’tthinkthatIdid,andIdon’tthinkthatitreallyhitmeuntil
maybeabouthalfwayintomysecondyearrunningTeensGotCents,
ofwhatIwasactuallydoingandthepossibilitythatIactuallyhad
ofwhereitcouldgoandthatIwasactuallyanentrepreneurand
thatthiswasabusinessandsomethingthatIcould,ifIworked
reallyhardat,Icouldgrowalot.Ithinkittookmeawhiletogetto
thatpointofjustfinallyrealizingthat.Ialsothinkmymomisahuge
supporterofeverythingthatI’mdoing,ismybusinesspartner,and
Ithinkthatifitwasn’tforhergivingmethosenudgesthatIneeded
todothethingsthatIhadbeendoing,itwouldn’thappenatall.I
thinkit’sreallyimportantfornotjustteens,buteveryonetohave
someonetosupportthemandtogivethemthosenudgeswhen
theyneedthem.
Pat: Yourmom’sverysupportive.IcouldseeheronTheTeenpreneur.
com.There’sanotefromhertootherparentsactually,underthe
parentstabifyouwanttocheckitout.There’sanicepictureof
bothofyouthere.Inthereitsays,“Tobehonest,Ican’treallythink
ofabetterwayforateentodaytolearnaboutlifeandsuccessand
whattheycanachievethroughhardwork,thanforthemtodevelop
theirownbusiness.”Ifullyagreewiththat.That’swhyI’malready
imploringtheseentrepreneurshipskillsintomyownkids,and
they’reonlysixandthree.TheseskillsthatI’velearnedinmylate
20sandearly30sarethingsthatIwishIknewalongtimeago.It’s
awesomethatyou’realreadyexperiencingthat.
IalsoknowthatIfeellikeifmyparentscametomeandthey’re
like,“Pat,youshouldstartabusiness,”I’dbevery,whenIwas
ateenagerI’dprobablypushback,becauseIpushedbackon
everythingtheysaidanyway.Howcouldaparentencouragetheir
kidstogetinvolvedwithentrepreneurshiporlearnalotoftheselife
changingskillsthattheycanlearnthroughbusiness?
Eva: Ithinksometimesthatyeah,there’scomingoutandsaying,“Hey,
youshouldstartabusiness,”canbehardbecauseasyouknow,
youcan’tjuststartabusiness.Ifit’snotsomethingyoucareabout
andnotsomethingyou’repassionateabout,it’snotgoingtowork.
Ifit’ssomethingthatisboringtoyou,thenyou’renevergoingtoput
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everythingyouhaveintoit.Ithinkthatit’simportantasaparentto
justtobeencouragingtoyourteenandjustfostergrowthinthem
towheretheycancomeintoitthemselves.Oncetheyfindwhat
they’repassionateaboutandfindwhattheylove,thenmaybestart
givingthose,talkingtothemabout,“Hey,youcouldturnthisintoa
businessthisway,”or,“Wouldyoubeinterestedindoingthat?”That
kindofthing,butIthinkifit’ssomethingthatyou’regoingtotryto
force,Idon’tthinkthat’sgoingtoworkaswell.
Pat: Isthereanythingaparentcandotogivetheirsonordaughtera
tasteofentrepreneurshipwithoutactuallygoingfullyintoactually
startingabusinessallout?Istheresomethingonecandoto
actuallyintroducetheminasmallway,toseeifit’ssomething
they’reinterestedin?
Eva: Ithinkthatobviouslyifyou’reaparentandyou’reanentrepreneur
yourself,thatisthebestwaytodoit,butasfarasintroducingitto
theminsmallways,Ithinkjustmaybehavingthem,ifyoucould
justfindagroupofentrepreneurs,orifyouhadafriendwho’san
entrepreneurandmaybeyoujustwantyourchildtospendsome
timewiththem,justtoseewhatthey’relikeandheartheadvicethat
theyhavetogive,Ithinkthatwouldbeanincredibleopportunity.
Pat: Yeah,that’sawesome.There’sgoingtobeteenswhoarelistening
tothis,Eva.I’dloveforyoutotalktothemaboutwhattheycould
dotoactuallygetoutthere,getconnected.Obviouslythere’sthe
conferencewhichwillhavealreadyhappened.Maybe,hopefully
therewillbeanotheronenextyear,butevenbetweenthen,how
couldateenagergetinvolvedwithbusiness?Whataretheirfirst
steps?Howcantheyactuallystartthisthing?
Eva: Ithinkthemostimportantthingis,isjustthatyou’vegottoget
started.Sometimesit’sreallyhardtotakethatfirststep,butyou’ve
justgottodoit.Ithinkthatgoingoutintoyourcommunityand
networking,andwhatevergroupsandbusinesscirclesthatyou
can.IknowherelocalinJacksonvillewhereI’mfrom,thereisan
entrepreneurialmeetupthathappenseveryMonday.Idon’tgo
everyweek,butit’sbeenamazing.There’salwaysaninspirational
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speakerandjustincrediblepeoplefromthecommunitythatIhad
gottentomakeawesomeconnectionswith.Ithinkifyoucanfind
somekindofgrouplikethattobeapartof,thatisanexcellent
placetostart.
Pat: Whatifateenisthinkingnobody’sgoingtotakemeseriously
becauseI’monlyateenager.Howwouldyourespondtothat?
Eva: Ithinkthat’saverydifficultthingtoovercome.That’swherethis
getshardandyouhavetobewillingtoputyourselfoutthere,which
issodifficult.It’sstilldifficultformetodoiteventhoughI’dhada
goodamountofpracticeatit.You’vejustgottobewillingtowalk
rightuptopeopleandshaketheirhandsandtellthemyourstory.
It’sahardthingtogetusedto,butit’sdefinitelyaskillthatyouneed
tolearn.
Pat: Whataresomeoftheskillsthatyoufeellikeactuallyaretoyour
advantageasateenager,oversomebodywho’solder?
Eva: There’stwosidestothis,becauseIdoseealotofpeoplenottaking
teensseriously,andIthinkthat’sahugeissue,butthenalso,if
you’reateenwho’srunningabusiness,who’sreallytryingtomake
adifferenceandtryingtomeetthisgoalofbeinganawesome
entrepreneur,that’salsogoingtocatchpeople’sattention.They’re
goingtowanttohearfromyou.Theyaregoingtobeimpressedby
you.Actuallysometimesbeingyoungerreallydoesplaystraightto
youradvantageanddoorsgetthrownopenforyouthatwouldn’tif
youwereanadult.
Pat: Right,asitdidwithyou.That’swhywe’rehereontheshowtalking
aboutteenagerrelatedthings,whichisreallycool.Whataresome
ofthebigmotivatorsforteensthatactuallydorunabusiness?
BecauseIknowforme,Ihaveafamilytotakecareof,andthat’s
reallywhat’sdrivingme.Whataresomeofheaspirationsthatyou
haveforexample,andotherteensmighthave?Becausealotof
teens,theydon’tnecessarilyknowwhattheywanttodowiththe
restoftheirlivesyet.That’sokay,butwhatarethosemotivators,
whicharereallyimportanttoactuallymotivateoneselftotakethe
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actionrequiredtobuildasuccessfulbusiness?
Eva: Absolutely.OnebigmotivatorthatIthinkisimportantrightnow
isthatit’sreallyhardtogetapart-timejobasateen.Ispenttwo
monthslastsummerlookingforajob.Itwasextremelydifficult.
I’veheardseveralstoriesofteenswhohavetriedtogooutand
getajob,andcan’tfindone.Theystarttheirownbusinessinstead,
becausetheywanttobeearningmoney,andtheywanttobe
savingforcollegeorwhatever.Theyneedthatincome,butthey’re
justgoingaboutitadifferentwaythanthetraditionalgettingapart-
timejoboverthesummer.
Pat: Withyourwebsite,TeensGotCents,whichIthinkisareallysmart
position,becauseyou’reright,nobodyteachesthisstufftokids,let
aloneadultswhoarejustfiguringitoutalongtheway.Whathave
beensomeofthebiggeststrugglesthatyou’vehadwiththatsite
sinceyoustarted?Iknowyoustartedforaproject,andnowit’syour
full-timething,butasmostentrepreneursknow,it’snotallunicorns
andrainbows,thereisalotoftoughtimesandwhatweresomeof
thosetoughtimesforyouwhilehavingthissite?
Eva: Ithinksomeofthemostdifficulttimesweresometimesseveral
monthswouldgobywhereIwasseeingnogrowth,nothingreally
washappening,Iwashavingnoopportunitiescomingmyway,and
IwasdoingeverythingthatIcould,butjustnogrowth,notgaining
anynewreadersoranythinglikethat.Ithinkthosetimesarealways
reallyhard,becausethoseweredefinitelythetimeswhereI’mlike,
“Okay,I’mreadytobedonewiththisnow.Nothing’shappening.”
I’mreallygladthatIstuckthatout,justbecausesometimesyou
gottogetthroughacoupleofdryspellsbeforethingsreallystart
pickingup.
Ithinkanotherstruggleisjustfindingagoodwaytoconnectwith
youraudienceandwantingtobe,asateenespecially,youlook
atalloftheseotheramazingbloggers.Youandabunchofother
reallybigpeople,andyou’rejustlike,“Oh,Isowantthat,andI
wantitrightnow.Idon’twanttohavetodoanyoftheworkforit.
Ijustwantittohappen.”Ithinkformeinmymind,thathasbeena
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struggleofjustknowingthatit’sgoingtobeaprocess.It’sgoingto
beajourney.It’sgoingtotaketimeandhardwork,andI’vegotto
bewillingtoputitinforthattohappen.
Pat: Yeah,that’sreallyimportant.Iknowthatkidsaregrowingupat
anagenow,orinerawherethingsarehappeningreallyfast.The
resultscanhappenmuchfaster,sobusiness,it’sstillgoingtotake
sometimetoseethoseresults.Ifyouhadtostartover,ifmaybe
yougoingbackinthepastandstartingfromscratchagain,whatare
someofthosethingsthatyouwoulddodifferentlysinceyoustarted
TeensGotCentsthatwouldmaybemakethoseresultshappenmuch
fasterforyou?
Eva: IthinkthatifIcouldgobackandtellmy16yearoldselfanything,
IwouldtellmyselfthatwhatI’mdoingisabusinessandthatIam
anentrepreneur.IthinkthatthemomentIrealizethat,everything
turnedformeandIhadthisparadigmshiftofhowIwaslookingat
whatIwasdoing.Beforeitwasjustaschoolproject.Iwasputting
inthetime.Iwasworkingonit,andIreallyenjoyedit,butuntilIhad
thismomentof,“Oh,Icoulddothisfull-time.Icoulddothislong
term.Icouldgrowthisintosomethingreally,reallyawesome,it
wasn’tuntilthatmomentthatitreallyclickedforme.
Pat: Whendidthatmomenthappen?
Eva: IthinkitwasafterFinCon2014,maybe.ThatwasinNewOrleans.
IthinkIcameawayfromthat,Ihadsomeawesomementorsgive
mesomeadviceandhelpmeunderstandsomethingsthatIcould
dototakeittothenextlevel.Icameawayfromthatwiththese
specificstepsofthingsthatIcoulddotogrowTeensGotCentsand
that’swhenIrealized.Iwaslike,oh,thiscanbemorethanwhatit
isrightnow.
Pat: That’sawesome.Youhadsaidthat,obviouslyyouworkedreallyhard
togetthisupandrunning.Whatwasthatworklikeforyou?Wasthat
timewriting,wasthatplanning,whatexactlywereyoudoing?
Eva: Yeah,writingalot,goingoutandgettinginterviewswithpeople.I
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haveseveralinterviewsonTeensGotCentswithmanagersabout
howtogetagreatpart-timejob,andjustreallytryingtomakeas
manyconnectionsaspossible.Ialsoworkwithacoupleofother
companiesthatsponsormysiteasabrandambassadorforthem,
somakingsureI’mfulfillingalloftheobligationsthatIhavetoallof
thosepeople.Yeah,alotofwriting.
Pat: Atthattime,didyouhaveanyurgetodootherthings?Forexample,
IknowthatifIwasintoentrepreneurshipbackinmyteenageyears,
I’dbesotemptedtojustputthatasideandjustgooutwithmy
friends,becausethat’swhatIreallywantedtodo.Howdoesateen,
oranyonereally,balancethatorjustdofunthingsversusputting
downtheeffortweneedtotogetworkdone?
Eva: Thatishard,andthatwasdefinitelyastruggle.I’mjustlike,“Ugh,
I’mreallytiredofwriting.Idon’twanttodothisanymore.I’drather
bedoingothernormalteenagerthings.”Ithinkthat’swhereagain,
havingasupportsystemoffriendsorfamilyaroundyou,ismost
important.Forme,that’smymomjustremindingmewhyI’mdoing
thisandhowimportantitis,andcanholdmeaccountableto
actuallyfulfillthecommitmentsthatIhavetothisblogandtosome
ofmyotherclients.
Pat: Whatcanateendoiftheydon’thaveasupportsystemclosebylike
youdid?
Eva: Ithinkthatyou’vegottogetreallypracticalandyou’vegotto,
ifyouneedto,thenyouneedtomakeaplanandhaveatime
managementsysteminplacetomakesurethatyouaregettingall
ofyourworkdoneandeverythingthatneedstobeaccomplishedto
growyourbusinessbeforeyoucandothoseotherfunthings.Ithink
thattherecanbebalancethere.Idon’tthinkthatifyou’reateen
runningabusinessyoucan’teverhavefun,butIthinkit’simportant
foryoutohavethemindsetoffinishingyourwork,andthenmaybe
hangingoutwithyourfriendsordoingwhateveritisthatyouwant.
Pat: Forme,Iusedthestrategyofusingthattimeasarewardformyself.
Thatactuallymotivatesmetodothingstherightway,quickerand
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faster,andtoactuallydothat,sothatIcanthendothosefunthings
likehangoutwithmykidsorplayvideogamesorwhateverIwant
todo.IstillfeellikeI’mateenatheart.Iliketodothosekindsof
things.Istillwouldlovetojustgofishingwithmydadagainand
playMagic:TheGatheringallday.Thatwouldbefun.Thatwouldbe
agoodday.Anyway,Evathisisgreat.Tofinishup,I’dlovetoknow
whatareyouraspirations?Wheredoyouseeyourselffive,ten
yearsfromnow?
Eva: That’salwayssuchadifficultquestion.Ireallyhopetocontinuethis
themeofentrepreneurship.Ihopetohavethisconferenceannually,
andtoreallycultivateacommunityofteensthatarepouring
intoeachotherandIwanttocontinuedoingthatforaslongasI
possiblycanandhelpkindlethisfireandthisloveforbusinessand
entrepreneurshipandteens.
Pat: Doyoufeelthatthat’sgoingtobealittlebitchallengingasyouget
older,areyougoingtocontinuetobrandyourselfastheonewho
actually,youstartedasateen,youknowhowtotalktoteens,and
thatsortofthing?
Eva: That’smyhope.That’swhatI’mplanningon.
Pat: Verynice.Eva,thankyousomuchforyourtimeandsharing
everythingthatyou’vegotgoingon.ThisisreallyexcitingandI’m
soexcited.Iaskedthatfinalquestionthere,becauseIreallyseebig
thingsforyouandyou’reaninspirationtome,andhopefullyalotof
theotherpeopleouttherewhoarelistening,andespeciallythose
whohaveteensandkids,too.Thankyouforwhatyoudo.Thank
youforyourenergy,andbestofluckontheconference.
Eva: Thankssomuch.
Pat: Eva,wherecanpeoplefindoutmoreaboutyouandwhatyou’re
upto?
Eva: YoucanfollowmeatTeensGotCents.com,onFacebookand
Instagram,andPinterest,andthenatTheTeenpreneur.com,alsoon
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Facebookthere.
Pat: Awesome.Soundsfantastic.Thankyousomuchforyourtime.
IhopeyouenjoyedthatinterviewwithEvaBakerfrom
TeensGotCents.com,andalsoTheTeenpreneurConference,which
hasalreadyhappened.Iactuallyfollowedupwithhertoseehow
itwentandshesaiditwentamazingly.Ican’twaitforhertodoit
againnextyear.Iftheschedulingworksout,I’dlovetobeapartof
that,ifpossible.It’snotalwayspossible.Ialwaysgetaskedtodo
speakinggigsatdifferentplacesallaroundtheworld.Themost
importantthingtomeiswhetherornottheyfitandalignwithmy
schedule.Idon’twanttotaketoomuchtimeawayfrommyfamilyat
all.Maybethere’sapossibilityofmebringingthemalong,andagain
itdependsonwhenschool’shappeningforthekids.There’salotof
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Anyway,TheTeenpreneurConference,amazing.GreatjobEva.
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onlyIcouldgobackintime.Thanksagain,andI’llseeyouguys
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