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4...Re Bureau Bulletin No. 1.2, dated July 30, 191.7,Series 19b7, wherein information is set forth pertaining to
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BILLY was interviewed onAugust 8, 19L? by Special"Agent A!~>a.t which time BILLY informed that th original negative was given by him to a Mr. BROWNof the PhotoCraftsman Service, who in turn furnished the negative to theInternational News Service. BILLY advised that he has an agree-ment with Mr. BROWN whereby the latter will share equally in anyprofits derived'fromthe use of the negative by commercial firmsbr newspapers. As of August 8, 19h? BILL! has notreceived anyremuneration for the use of this negative.
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