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DH\JF_MKF GH@DPAK U HFN CMUF Pfptfiofr 0rl?280 HI PFPPMAK AKC], ^HM\MKN AK I
!r" #$% F#r%f&
@'$rt" Naal iarkmkn.
@'$rt" @hk yau ihdf yaur hppfhrhk`fs1
Ir" #()*+" ]fs. Naal iarkmkn, yaur jakar. Ormhk Rhkmsj ear tjf pchmks.
Ir" '&%f" Naal iarkmkn, yaur jakar. Dfmk Oaycf ear tjf pchmks.
I*" @#+#(" Naal iarkmkn. Dhtjryk @hjhk ear lfefklhkts.
I*" )(#" Naal iarkmkn. !fssm`h "tf##mks Omkh ear tjf lfefklhkts.
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Ir" $t(#i" $kl %hrmk Rutkhi ear tjf lfefklhkts.
@'$rt" Naal iarkmkn. & sff yau jhf h prapasfl 'ury mkstru`ak yau (hkt if ta rfhl. )jms (hs 'amktcy hnrffl
upak, `arrf`t1
Ir" $t(#i" ]fs, yaur jakar.
@'$rt" Rchmks1
Ir" '&%f" ]fs, yaur jakar.
@'$rt" $cc rmnjt. )jfk & (mcc rfhl tjht. )jf atjfr mssuf & jhl ms, & (hktfl ta nmf tjf 'ury hk fsihtf ae tjf trmhc,
sa & (hktfl saiftjmkn rfhcms` ta tfcc tjfi tjms iarkmkn. "a me yau `aucl nmf if hk fsihtf, tjfk & `hk nmf
tjht ta tjfi. $kl tjfk & (hkt ta thcd h#aut saif atjfr tjmkns.
Ir" $t(#i" *f #fcmff (f (mcc #f lakf #y tjf fkl ae kf+t (ffd, yaur jakar. *f (mcc sff me (f `hk kmsj
fhrcmfr.
@'$rt" ]au (mcc kmsj (jfk1
Ir" $t(#i" -kl ae kf+t (ffd, me kat fhrcmfr.
Ir" #()*+" "a tjht (mcc #f tjf /tj1
Ir" $t(#i" tj ar 2tj.
Ir" #()*+" "a #y tjf fkl ae tjf (ffd yau8cc #f lakf1
Ir" '&%f" *fcc, yfhj.
Ir" #()*+" ?apfeuccy.
Ir" $t(#i" ]fhj. Out me & hk, & (mcc sjartfk mt ffk eurtjfr. "a tjf caknfst, &8i shymkn, (mcc #f tjraunj tjf fkl
ae kf+t (ffd.
@'$rt" 0dhy. 0dhy.
Ir" #()*+" $kl tjfk
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Ir" #()*+" ?f tacl us tjfy (aucl nmf us h (ffd8s ka`f.
Ir" $t(#i" =ffr shml tjht.
Ir" #()*+" ]fs, jf lml, iucpcf ifs ak tjf rf`arl. & jhf tjf `mthaks.
Ir" $t(#i" & lmshnrff.
@'$rt" *fcc, me tjfy la rfst fhrcmfr, yau `hkkat #f rfhly1
Ir" #()*+" *fcc, saif ihy, #ut atjfr (mtkfssfs & prfphrfl ear tjf 5tj, hs jf dfpt tfccmkn if ta `aif ak
tjht lhy. & dfpt hsdmkn, hkl jf shml jf (aucl nmf us h (ffd8s ka`f.
Ir" $t(#i" )jht8s kat `arrf`t.
@'$rt" & uklfrsthkl tjht. Out ffk me yau jhl ta, `hk yau s`rhi#cf hkl nft saif
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@'$rt" )jf akfs yau `hk #rmkn up hrf sjart akfs1
Ir" #()*+" ;mnjt.
Ir" $t(#i" $kl, yaur jakar, tjfrf8s akf tjmkn tjht nmfs us `ak`frk tjht &8f katfl ear tjf `aurt, ms iy
`ak`frk ms, #fearf tjfy ffk rfstfl tjfy shml tjfy jhl eaur rf#u6hc (mtkfssfs
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Ir" #()*+" $`tuhccy, (f nhf tjfi iarf tjhk h (ffd. $kl (f tacl yau (jfk (f (frf namkn ta rfst, hkl (f
lml. &t lafsk8t ih6fr. & 'ust kffl ta dka(
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@'$rt" $rnuifkt ak tjf 'ury mkstru`aks ar hrnuifkt mk casmkn1
Ir" #()*+" =a. mkhc hrnuifkts.
@'$rt" $cc rmnjt. *jht hrf yau sunnfskn1
Ir" #()*+" & tjmkd cmdf tjrff jaurs. & lak8t dka(.
Ir" $t(#i" & (hs tjmkdmkn iarf cmdf h lhy, hkl h lhy, #ut & (aucl #f jhppy ta
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@'$rt" "a tjrff hkl h jhce ta eaur ms (jht &8i jfhrmkn ear hrnuifkt. ?hf pchmks
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Ir" #()*+" Rsh vs. @hkhvmk
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I*" )(#" )jf (rakneuc
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Ir" #()*+" %hy#f eaur.
Ir" $t(#i" "a, hnhmk, yaur jakar, me tjfy jhf tjf h#mcmty ta na kf+t (ffd, (f `aucl tjfrfearf #f h#cf ta nft
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Ir" $t(#i" $kl (f dka( (jht tjht8s cmdf, jhmkn lakf tjht ear lhys sthrkn hkl kat sthrkn ear iaktjs
chtfr. $kl sa tjht8s (jy &8f mklm`htfl hs saak hs & dka(, &8i namkn ta cft yau dka(. $kl yau8cc `frthmkcy jhf, ht
h imkmiui, f lhys ta la sa.
Ir" #()*+" mf lhys1 0dhy.
@'$rt" $cc rmnjt.
Ir" #()*+" $cc rmnjt. "a tjht8s )jurslhy.
Ir" $t(#i" rmlhy iarkmkn. )jht (aucl #f *flkfslhy sthrkn. $kl & (mcc s`d ta tjht, %r. Rhkmsj. & dka( &
(mcc jhf tjht.
@'$rt" 0dhy. )jf mssuf tjht & jhf tjht & (hktfl ta rhmsf (mtj yau ms &8f spadfk ta sfrnfhkt *jfht`raB, (ja ms
ka( rfrfl erai tjf sjfrm8s lfphrtifkt hkl ka( lafs `aurt sf`urmty. $kl jf jhs sunnfstfl ta if
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Ir" #()*+" $kl jf8s #ffk hraukl lurmkn tjf trmhc. &8f spadfk (mtj jmi. & lak8t dka( ja( yau (frf pchkkmkn
ak
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Ir" $t(#i" @frthmkcy, phr`uchrcy tjf eh`t mt8s h phrhc sf3ufstfr. )jht `aifs mk fry lmfrfkt earis, sa &8l
cmdf ta jfhr (jht jf jhs ta shy.
@'$rt" ]fhj, hkl (jht tjfy (hkt ta la. $kl tjfy8f #ffk h(hrf ae tjf mssufs tjht jhf `aif up tjraunjaut
tjf trmhc. "a & tjmkd jf jhs
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@'$rt" & `aucl
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ear prapaeac hllm`ak, caadmkn #h`d ht tjfmr hsf cfs, ruk`jmkn tjf lhth ak tjasf, hkl mt (hs saiftjmkn jf
(hktfl ta put tanftjfr hkl pu#cmsj, hkl jf jhlk8t #ffk h#cf ta la tjht yft #f`husf jf jhlk8t jhl tjf
rfsaur`fs hhmch#cf. "a $-N Mmf hnrffl ta pramlf tjf euklmkn kf`fsshry ta `aipcftf tjf stuly. )jht (hs
lms`casfl. &t (hs lms`casfl (jfk jf su#im6fl tjf stuly, `aksmstfkt (mtj tjf Gaurkhc Ae Hllm`tak Iflm`mkf
rucfs ear pu#cm`hak. )jf h`tuhc pu#cmsjfl hr`cf jhs h cm6cf #cur# ht tjf fkl tjht shys J)jhkds ta $-N Mmf ear
tjf ukrfstrm`tfl euklmkn.J sa tjht (hs sart ae pjhsf &&. $kl hcc tjf tjrff pjrhsfs hrf tfiparhccy lmsk`t hs (fcc.
?f sart ae kmsjfl tjf `aksuckn (ard, jf lml tjf stuly, (jm`j (f euklfl #ut (hs kat phrt ae `aksuckn ear
us. )jht (hs saiftjmkn jf #fnhk (ardmkn ak mk 244: hkl kmsjfl hkl su#im6fl ear pu#cm`hak mk, & #fcmff,
chtf 242. $kl tjfk mk !hkuhry 24/, (f rfthmkfl jmi hs h tfseymkn f+pfrt ta thcd h#aut cmef f+pf`thk`y hkl
hllm`ak nfkfrhccy hkl hcsa ta thcd spf`m`hccy h#aut prapaeac hllm`ak. ?ms stuly lafsk8t rfhccy rfchtf ta tjf
mssufs tjht jf8s tfseymkn h#aut, #ut (f hcca(fl eucc f+pcarhak ae mt mk jms lfpasmak ta tjf f+tfkt me jf rfhl
hkytjmkn lurmkn tjf aksuckn pfrmal, ar caadfl ht hkytjmkn lurmkn tjf if jf (hs (ardmkn ak jms stuly tjht
hllfl ta jms dka(cflnf #hsfl ak prapaeac, hkl jf shml tjfrf (hs katjmkn spf`m` tjht aifs ta imkl, #ut (f
sart ae apfkfl tjf laars ak tjht, cft tjfi f+pcarf mt. )jfrf8s ka
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Ir" '&%f" ?f (ardfl ak mt (jmcf jf (hs `aksuckn ear tjfi.
I*" @#+#(" *fcc, fssfkhccy jms aksuckn (ard nhtjfrmkn pu#cmsjfl hr`cfs ear us jhl fklfl. ?f kmsjfl up
tjf stuly (mtj jms sth, hkl tjfk
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tjht (hs thcdmkn h#aut (jht tjf mklm`fs (frf ear h pfrsak (ja tfkls ta ehcc mk tjf `htfnary ae h pfrsak usmkn mt.
&k caadmkn mkta mt, (f eaukl h `aupcf pfapcf, mk`culmkn Fr. -hrcfy, (ja (frf prffimkfkt pfapcf ak mt. "a (f
rfh`jfl aut ta jmi, sart ae (ardfl (mtj jmi, shml, Jnmf us saif hr`cfs, (jht la yau dka( h#aut mt1 @hk yau
hks(fr tjfsf 3ufsaks1J
@'$rt" Out yaur mktfrfst mk mt (hs nfkfrhtfl #f`husf
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I*" @#+#(" $kl jf euccy lms`casfl ht tjf fkl ae tjf hr`cf tjht (f pramlfl ukrfstrm`tfl euklmkn.
&iparthktcy, yaur jakar, tjms ms kat h praspf`f f+pfrmifkthc stuly (jfrf yau shy, & (hkt ta rfh`j fkl pamkt
+, hs, yau dka(, & (hkt ta sja( tjht prapaeac hllm`ak ms `aiiak mk `frthmk papuchaks ar (jhtffr. )jfrf8s
22 f+mskn `hsf cfs
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Fr. -hrcfy, (jy lmlk8t yau shy
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tjfi ear t(a yfhrs ak prapaeacJ
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'aurkhc rucfs. ?f h#sacutfcy eacca(fl tjf 'aurkhc rucfs. $kl tjms siadmkn
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Ir" '&%f" ;mnjt.
@'$rt" 0dhy.
Ir" '&%f" %y pamkt ms, tjasf t(a mklm`htf tjht tjasf tjmkns jhppfkfl t(m`f, (jm`j ms kat (jht tjf fmlfk`f
ms. )jfy sjaucl 'ust `jhknf mt ta akf cmkf la(k, #f`husf hcc tjf atjfr akfs hrf akf cmkf la(k, hkl tjms
jhppfkfl jfrf. &8i shymkn, mt8s dmkl ae imscfhlmkn.
I*" @#+#(" $kl, yaur jakar, jf (mcc tfsey
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@'$rt" =a. . ]fs.
Ir" '&%f" 0dhy. ]aur jakar, sa Fr. -hrcfy ms hk hllm`ak iflm`mkf spf`mhcmst, #ut jf ms kat hk hkfstjfsmacanmst.
"a jf8s kat 3uhcmfl ta nmf tjms. )jms ms sart ae smimchr ta (jfk (f jhl Fr. @fmscfr, hkl (f (hktfl ta thcd
h#aut h scffp stuly. $kl tjf `aurt shml Fr. @fmscfr ms h scffp f+pfrt, #ut jf8s kat hkfstjfsmacanmst, sa (f jhl ta
#rmkn Ora(k.
@'$rt" ]au #raunjt Ora(k mk.
Ir" '&%f" "a (f jhl ta #rmkn Ora(k mk. "a tjf shif tjmkn (mtj -hrcfy. -hrcfy ms kat 3uhcmfl ak jms a(k ta
thcd h#aut tjf h`tuhc pjysmacanm`hc ff`ts ae prapaeac ak tjf #aly, 'ust cmdf Fr. @fmscfr (hsk8t. "a & lak8t tjmkd
tjfy `hk usf tjms scmlf.
I*" @#+#(" ?f8s hipcy 3uhcmfl ta thcd h#aut mt. ?f8s h prapaeac f+pfrt. ?f8s h kfuracanmst #y trhmkmkn hkl h
pjysm`mhk.
@'$rt" Rjysm`mhk hkl =furacanmst1
Ir" $t(#i" ]fs.
@'$rt" 0dhy.
I*" @#+#(" ]fs. ?f uklfrsthkls hkl stulmfs tjf iftjals ae prapaeac. $kl jf, mk stulymkn prapaeac hkl
caadmkn ht tjf papuchaks tjht jhf mt
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Ir" #()*+" =a.
@'$rt" $kl yau jhf -hrcfy jfrf (ja
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Ir" #()*+" *fcc, & mktfrruptfl jfr t(m`f.
Ir" $t(#i" =at tjf mktfrrupkn. )jf ht hccmkn. Jtjht8s kat (jht jhppfkfl,J ar Jtjht8s kat tjf fmlfk`f,J &
(aucl hsd jf kat la tjht.
@'$rt" 0dhy.
Ir" #()*+" &e (f8rf namkn ta thcd h#aut `acchtfrhc ih6frs, hs & hpprah`jfl tjf `aurt talhy, %r. Rutkhi (hs
jhmkn h lms`ussmak (mtj t(a pfapcf ak tjms smlf (mtjmk t(a efft ae tjf 'urars, hkl & (fkt up ta jmi hkl shml
J%r. Rutkhi, mt8s kat hppraprmhtf.J hkl jf tacl if jf (hs kat thcdmkn h#aut tjf `hsf. $kl & jfhrl jmi thcdmkn. &
tjaunjt h#aut mt. =at hppraprmhtf ta ffk #f thcdmkn hraukl 'urars, (mtjmk t(a ar tjrff efft. &e (f8rf namkn ta
nft mkta hcc tjms stu, & lak8t `aif mk jfrf hkl (jmkf ffry if tjfy la saiftjmkn tjht & lak8t cmdf, 0D1 )jfy
sffi ta (hkt ta (jmkf h#aut mt. & lak8t `aif mk hkl la tjht. Out tjfsf tjmkns hrf jhppfkmkn hcc tjf if, 'ust
jhfk8t #ffk #urlfkmkn tjf `aurt. & (mcc kat shy hkytjmkn. & (mcc (rmtf h katf ta %r. Oaycf, hs cakn hs tjfy la tjf
shif tjmkn (jfk (f8rf 3ufsakmkn.
@'$rt" $kl 'ust dffp yaur am`f la(k. ]au jhf h am`f tjht `hrrmfs saififs.
Ir" #()*+" $cc rmnjt.
@'$rt" !ust dffp yaur am`f la(k. $kl try ta , :, 7, hkl tjfk mt 'ust 3uatfs h #uk`j ae trmhc ar lfpa tfsiaky.
@'$rt" 0dhy.
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Ir" '&%f" "a tjf 3ufsak ms, mt8s (hrkmkns ta %m`jhfc !h`dsak, hkl & lak8t uklfrsthkl ja( tjms ts mk (mtj
(jht jms apmkmak ms. ?f tfsfl ht trmhc
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@'$rt" Naal iarkmkn, ffry#aly. *fc`aif #h`d.
\+f $r&" Naal iarkmkn.
@'$rt" @hk yau ihdf yaur hppfhrhk`fs1
Ir" #()*+" ]fs. Naal iarkmkn. Ormhk Rhkmsj ear tjf pchmks.
Ir" '&%f" Naal iarkmkn. Dfmk Oaycf ear tjf pchmks.
I*" @#+#(" Naal iarkmkn. Dhtjryk @hjhk ear tjf lfefklhkts.
I*" )(#" !fssm`h "tf##mks Omkh ear tjf lfefklhkts.
Ir" $t(#i" $kl %hrmk Rutkhi ear tjf lfefklhkts.
@'$rt" 0dhy. & rfmf(fl (jht8s cfB ae tjms trmhc, hkl mt caads cmdf (f8rf nfkn `casf ta tjf fkl. %hy#f h (ffd,
(ffd hkl h jhce, ear tjf lfefksf `hsf, hkl tjfk ihy#f jhce h (ffd ar sa ear tjf pchmks. "a mt8s nfkn `casf.
0e `aursf, tjfk (f jhf `casmkn hrnuifkts hkl tjfk lfcm#frhaks. Out & (hktfl ta cft yau dka( tjht tjht8s
(jfrf (f hrf. *f8rf h`tuhccy prf6y casf. )jfrf hrf atjfr tjmkns (f jhf ta thcd h#aut, #ut cft8s jacl a ak
tjht ear ka(. &8cc cft yau dka( (jfk (f8rf rfhly. &t jhs ta la (mtj lfcm#frhaks, hkl (f lak8t kffl ta thcd
h#aut tjht 3umtf yft. $kl & (hkt ta rfhl yau h 'ury mkstru`ak #fearf (f sthrt. Jtjraunjaut tjms trmhc, ihky
(mtkfssfs jhf #f`aif fiaakhc. $ctjaunj mt ms h khturhc juihk rfh`ak ta aksacf su`j h (mtkfss,
h6arkfys ihy kat #f pfrim6fl ta hpprah`j tjf (mtkfss ak tjf sthkl luf ta `frthmk rucfs ae `aurt. ]au hrf kat
ta mf( tjf h6arkfys (mtj lmsehar smipcy #f`husf tjfy ehmc ta hpprah`j ar aksacf hk fiaakhc (mtkfss.J
tjhkd yau. Ffefklhkts, yau ihy `hcc yaur kf+t (mtkfss.
I*" @#+#(" )jhkd yau. $t tjms if, lfefklhkts `hcc Fr. Rhuc -hrcfy. Fr. Rhuc -hrcfy, `hccfl hs h (mtkfss #y tjf
lfefklhkts, (hs s(ark mk.
@'$rt" )jhkd yau. ]au ihy #fnmk.
I*" @#+#(" )jhkd yau, yaur jakar.
!M_F@\ FHIMKH\MAK ] IP" @HJHK
" Naal iarkmkn, Fr. -hrcfy.
H" Naal iarkmkn.
" *jht la yau la ear h cmmkn1
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H" &8i hk hllm`ak iflm`mkf pjysm`mhk.
" $kl hrf yau `urrfktcy fipcayfl1
H" & hi.
" *jfrf la yau (ard1
H" & (ard mk $tchkth, Nfarnmh, hkl & jhf t(a pasmaks9 &8i tjf iflm`hc lmrf`tar ae tjf Nfarnmh pjysm`mhks
jfhctj pranrhi, hkl &8i mk prmhtf prh``f mk h sihcc ri tjht8s 'ust if. &t8s `hccfl -hrcfy `aksucthk`y.
" @hk yau iaf tjf im`rapjakf `casfr ta yau1 )jf #h`dnraukl ms
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" &s tjht yaur jaifta(k1
H" )jht ms iy jaifta(k.
" $kl (jht yfhr lml yau nrhluhtf1
H" &k 7:4.
" $Bfr nrhluhkn erai iflm`hc s`jaac, lml yau la hk mktfrksjmp1
H" & lml.
" *jfrf1
H" &k Rartchkl, 0rfnak, ht tjf naal "hihrmthk jaspmthc hs h rathkn mktfrkhc iflm`mkf mktfrksjmp.
" $kl lml yau tjfk na ak ta h rfsmlfk`y1
H" & lml. & lml h rfsmlfk`y mk kfuracany.
" $kl (jfrf (hs tjht1
H" $t tjf ukmfrsmty ae 0rfnak jfhctj s`mfk`fs fktfr mk Rartchkl, 0rfnak.
" *jfk lml yau kmsj tjht rfsmlfk`y1
H" 8:E.
" $kl hBfr yau `aipcftfl yaur rfsmlfk`y, lml yau la hky eurtjfr trhmkmkn mk yaur fcl1
H" & lml. $t tjf if & fktfrfl tjf fcl, tjfrf (hs rfhccy ka earihcmfl efcca(sjmp pranrhi, rfsmlfk`y trhmkmkn
mk hllm`ak iflm`mkf, sa yau jhl ta a##cf tanftjfr tjmkns. & (hs mk supfrmsmak (mtj hkhcysts ear sm+ yfhrs mk
tfris ae iy tjfrhpy. & jhf sffrhc lfnrffs mk psy`jatjfrhpy hkl erai (jht8s `hccfl f+pfrmfkhc
psy`jatjfrhpmfs. $kl & jhl supfrmsmak mk tjf fcl erai iy ifktars, hkl tjht (hs rfhccy hcc tjht (hs hhmch#cf
ht tjf if mk tjht if.
" $kl (jht yfhr lml yau #fnmk thdmkn hrf
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" 0dhy.
H" ?hf tjaunjts h#aut rfturkmkn jaif tjfrf saifif.
" $kl ms
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H" ucc if.
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" $kl h#aut ja( iu`j if afr tjht sm+ iaktjs, ja( ihky jaurs la yau tjmkd yau spfkt mk lamkn tjht
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