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Delay in Audit Report Schema for AY 2014-15 as per the

New Form No.3CA, 3CB and 3CD Notification no. 33/2014 on

25/7/2014

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sachin< sachin@charteredinfo.com>

Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2014 10:24 AM

To: ask@incometaxindia.gov.in; efiling_schema_utility@incometaxindia.gov.in;

efiling@incometaxindia.gov.in

Subject: Delay in Audit Report Schema for AY 2014-15 as per the New Form No.3CA,

3CB and 3CD Notification no. 33/2014 on 25/7/2014

Attachments: FW: Changes in e-TDS/TCS FVU version

Importance: High

Dear Sir,

The new formats of tax audit reports namely Form No.3CA, 3CB and 3CD have been notified

through Notification no. 33/2014 on 25/7/2014 with immediate effect.

With regards to the same Today on 19th

Aug 2014 even after 25 days Schema for the Audit

Report not yet release by the department.

There are number of software in the market and require to prepare the utility based on the DIT

Schema. It will also take the 10-15 days to develop error free utility based on the schema.

We have thousands of client all over India and using the software utility, we request you that

before releasing the department utility first schema will be release before 10-15 days for all

software vendor’s in the market so that they will get the proper time and can provide the error

free utility to the clients. Even NSDL also sending the prior mail of NSDL Data Structure before

releasing the New FVU Version. Sample mail from NSDL to all s/w vendor is as attach for your

reference.

As being the due date of Audited Return as 30th

Sept 2014 we request you that The new

formats of tax audit reports be made effective from the Assessment Year 2015-16 and not

Assessment Year 2014-15. Also only existing stable schema will remain as it is up to AY 2014-

Sachin Waikar

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3CB-3CD – Issue in uploading the Audit Report (Schema Error) –

04/09/2013 From: support@taxpro.co.in

Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 8:05 PM

To: efilinghelpdesk@incometaxindia.gov.in;

efiling_schema_utility@incometaxindia.gov.in

Subject: Form 3CB-3CD filing Error

Dear Sir/Madam,

While uploading Audit Report 3CB-3CD for AY 2013-14 we are getting error ‘XML schema is

invalid.Please upload the XML in the correct format.’

Here enclosing XMl file and Screen shot of the error.

We observed that the file which contains Block of Assets As Building 10% with code in XML as 9 not

uploading while other file getting uploaded successfully.

Please look into the matter and reply ASAP .

With Regards

TaxPro Support

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West of Lata Mangeshkar Musical Park

Bhandara Road, NAGPUR - 440008 INDIA

Ph: +91 - 712 - 663 8888 (100 Lines)

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ITR-5 – Status Code for LLP not present in Schema Date – 22/08/2013 Reply Received

From: DIT

Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 12:11 PM To: sachin@charteredinfo.com

Subject: Re: ITR-5 : Status Code for LLP not present in Schema - Date - 22-08-2013

dear mr. sachin

schema is corrected. Please check the same.

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From: Sachin Waikar <sachin@charteredinfo.com>

Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 12:58 PM

To: efiling_schema_utility@incometaxindia.gov.in; efiling@incometaxindia.gov.in

Subject: ITR-5 : Status Code for LLP not present in Schema - Date - 22-08-2013

Importance: High

Dear Sir/Madam,

First of All there is no Status Code for Limited Liability Partnership Firm (LLP) in Latest Schema Dated :

22/08/2013

As per the Notified Form ITR-5 :

As per the Instruction of Form ITR-5

As per the Latest Schema on Date : 22/08/2013

<xs:element name="StatusOrCompanyType"

default="1" id="PersSec8">

<xs:annotation>

<xs:documentation>Firm is 1, local

authority 2, co-op bank 3,

co-op society 4, any other AOP

5, public company 6, private

company is 7, Others 8(for

</xs:documentation>

</xs:annotation>

<xs:simpleType>

<xs:restriction base="xs:token">

<xs:maxLength value="1" />

<xs:enumeration value="1" />

</xs:restriction>

</xs:simpleType>

</xs:element>

Previously also we have send such inconsistency and variation of Status Code for ITR-7 on 02/08/2013

and we have not received any reply of the same.

Such inconsistency and variation of Status Code in Forms create confusion among the users. We

strongly recommend to maintain consistency of the “Assessee Status Code” across all the ITRs,

Instructions and Schema.

Sachin Waikar

Ph: +91-712-6638888 (100 Lines), 9225245088

Fax: +91-712-6638899

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Issue in 3CB – 3CD e-Filing Reply Received

From: DIT

To: sachin@charteredinfo.com

Subject: Re: Issue in 3CB-3CD e-Filing

dear mr. sachin

On the three queries mentioned by you, we are making the changes and soon we will be deploying a

new utility for the same. For remaining two points user has to enter the fields as available in the utility.

He is not required to enter any other field like particulars or particulars type.

From: Sachin Waikar <sachin@charteredinfo.com>

Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 8:16 PM

To: efiling_schema_utility@incometaxindia.gov.in;

efiling@incometaxindia.gov.in; ask@incometaxindia.gov.in

Subject: Issue in 3CB-3CD e-Filing

Importance: High

Dear Sir,

We have the following issues in 3CB-3CD e-Filing

Case-I : How to make the Following entry in 3CB-3CD Utility point 14 provided by DIT

As per DIT Utility , there is Common Column for Addition/Deduction

Case – II : How to give the Details if any in Point 17 of 3CD also Schema and Presentation is varying

As per the Utility

Schema for the above provided as below

<xs:element name="Form3cdExpOth">

<xs:complexType>

<xs:sequence>

<xs:element name="Form3cdExpOthPK">

<xs:complexType>

<xs:sequence>

<xs:element name="ExpenditureType">

<xs:simpleType>

<xs:restriction

base="xs:string">

<xs:pattern

value="CAPNAT|PE

C36I" />

</xs:restriction>

</xs:simpleType>

</xs:element>

<xs:element name="Particulars"

minOccurs="0" maxOccurs="1">

<xs:simpleType>

<xs:restriction

base="xs:string">

<xs:pattern

value="Salary|Commission|Interest|Remuneration|Bonus" />

</xs:restriction>

</xs:simpleType>

</xs:element>

<xs:element name="Section"

<xs:simpleType>

<xs:restriction

base="xs:string">

<xs:pattern

value="Section40b|Section40ba" />

</xs:restriction>

</xs:simpleType>

</xs:element>

<xs:element name="Amount"

<xs:simpleType>

<xs:restriction

base="xs:long">

<xs:totalDigits

value="14" />

</xs:restriction>

</xs:simpleType>

</xs:element>

<xs:element name="Details"

minOccurs="0" maxOccurs="unbounded">

<xs:simpleType>

<xs:restriction

base="xs:string">

<xs:minLength

value="1" />

<xs:maxLength

value="150" />

</xs:restriction>

</xs:simpleType>

</xs:element>

</xs:sequence>

</xs:complexType>

</xs:element>

</xs:sequence>

</xs:complexType>

</xs:element>

Case – III : How to give the Details if any in Point 17A of 3CD also Schema and Presentation is varying

as per the Utility provided point is as below

But in Schema the is option for giving ParticularType, Particulars and Amount as below

<xs:element name="Form3cdInadm">

<xs:complexType>

<xs:sequence>

<xs:element name="ParticularType">

<xs:simpleType>

<xs:restriction base="xs:string">

<xs:pattern

value="SEC23|SEC40A|SEC69D|SEC40A3" />

</xs:restriction>

</xs:simpleType>

</xs:element>

<xs:element name="Particulars">

<xs:simpleType>

<xs:restriction base="xs:string">

<xs:minLength value="1" />

</xs:restriction>

</xs:simpleType>

</xs:element>

<xs:element name="Amount">

<xs:simpleType>

<xs:restriction base="xs:integer">

<xs:totalDigits value="20" />

</xs:restriction>

</xs:simpleType>

</xs:element>

</xs:sequence>

</xs:complexType>

</xs:element>

There are many such issues in Form 3CD, so refinement is

required in complete Form Design and Schema.

Also it will be very convenient for s/w venders, if there will

be changes in Schema, that changes should be mentioned date wise

or Schema Version wise in a separate File, like ‘Consolidated

Schema & Codes’, with Schema element and the changes made. Due

to lack of such information, it will be very tedious for all s/w

vendors to check each and every element for the schema change.

Even NSDL also sending the prior mail to all s/w vendors before

7 days if any data structure is going to change so that s/w

vendor should be ready for such changes.

Sachin Waikar

Ph: +91-712-6638888 (100 Lines), 9225245088

Fax: +91-712-6638899

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Issue with 44AD in ITR

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sachin Waikar

Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2013 12:44 PM

To: efiling@incometaxindia.gov.in; efiling_schema_utility@incometaxindia.gov.in

Cc: sales@taxpro.co.in; support@taxpro.co.in; corporatesales@taxpro.co.in;

taxpromumbai@taxpro.co.in; taxprodelhi@taxpro.co.in;

taxprokolkata@taxpro.co.in; taxprobengaluru@taxpro.co.in

Subject: Issue with 44AD In ITR

Attachments: 2013_ITR4_PR9.zip

Importance: High

Dear Sir/Madam,

We have the Following Issue in ITR-Return for 44AD

Case : Assessee having Nature of Business as Retail Trading - Books of A/c Maintain & Not Audited. In P

& L A/c he has shown the Loss of Rs. -15000. But as per the deemed profit u/s 44AD Tax will be

applicable on Deemed Profit.

But as per the Department Template ( attach with the mail) it showing the Loss in schedule BP and also

carried to Next Year in Schedule CFL as Current Year Losses.

As per our utility Schedule BP can be in the following way . But problem is that schema is not allowing –

ve value in point 4 of schedule BP.

Our issue is in Point 4 of Schedule BP. –ve values should be accepted as per the Schema

<xs:element name="PLUs44sChapXIIG" default="0">

<xs:simpleType>

<xs:restriction

base="xs:unsignedLong">

<xs:totalDigits

value="14" />

</xs:restriction>

</xs:simpleType>

</xs:element>

Please look into the matter and reply.

Sachin Waikar

Ph: +91-712-6638888 (100 Lines), 9225245088

Fax: +91-712-6638899

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Status Code Issue in ITR-7 AY 2013-14

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sachin Waikar

To: ask@incometaxindia.gov.in; efiling@incometaxindia.gov.in;

efiling_schema_utility@incometaxindia.gov.in Subject: Confusion in selecting Status Code for ITR-7 for e-Filing as per DIT Schema and for Hard Copy

Submission as per ITR-7 Notified Form and Instruction

Importance: High

Dear Sir,

As per the Notified ITR-7 form and Its Instruction Status Code is given as below

But as per the DIT Schema for ITR-7, Status is not matching with the Instruction given in notified Form.

As per schema ITR7Master.xsd following is given

<xs:element name="StatusOrCompanyType" default="1"

id="PersSec8">

<xs:annotation>

<xs:documentation>Firm is 1, local authority 2, co-op bank

co-op society 4, any other AOP 5, public company 6,

private

company is 7, Others 8(for FBT)

</xs:documentation>

</xs:annotation>

<xs:simpleType>

<xs:restriction base="xs:token">

</xs:restriction>

</xs:simpleType>

</xs:element>

In this case which Status Code should be write in Return whether as per the Notified Format or as per

Schema. Why Assessee Status Code is varying in Schema of different ITR..??

Sachin Waikar

Ph: +91-712-6638888 (100 Lines), 9225245088

Fax: +91-712-6638899

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