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September 1999

Richard J. Holleman, IEEE-SASlide 1

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IEEEIEEEStandards Association Standards Association

IEEE, ETSI, and Bluetooth MeetingAugust 31, 1999

Monarch Hotel Washington DC USA

Richard J. Holleman, IEEE-SA Standards Board Chairman

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Meeting Goal & Agenda• Goal

– The goal of the meeting would be to see to that there is a possibility for the three of us (Bluetooth, ETSI and IEEE) to cooperate and to write down an action list.

• Agenda 5:00pm to 8:00pm– Short update and participants goals– How could IEEE, ETSI and Bluetooth cooperate to

reach goals– What are the related next steps

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IEEE: An Overview• IEEE Established in 1884 (AIEE & IRE)

• IEEE Dec98 Membership was 334,811; 66% USA & 33% Non-USA

• IEEE produces 30 percent of the world's published literature in electrical engineering, computers and control technology,

• IEEE holds annually more than 300 major conferences and

• IEEE has more than 800 active standards with 700 under development.

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IEEE 802 Interfaces

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IEEE 802 Organization

802.3CSMA/CD

Geoff Thompson

802.4TOKEN BUS

Paul Eastman

802.5TOKEN RING

Bob Love

802.6DQDB WAN

Jim Mollenauer

802.7BROADBAND(802.14 Res)

802.8FIBER TAG

Chip Benson

802.9ISLAN

Dhad. Vamen

802.10SECURITYKen Alonge

802.11WIRELESSVic Hayes

802.12DEMAND PRIORITY

Pat Thaler

802.14CABLE-TV

Robert Russell

802.1BRIDGING/ARCH

Bill Lidinsky

802.2LLC

Dave Carlson

WORKING GROUP CHAIRS

VICE CHAIRPaul Nikolich

RECORDING SECHoward Frazier

TREASURERBob Grow

EXECUTIVE SECBuzz Rigsbee

EXEC OFFICERSCHAIR

Jim Carlo

LMSC SPONSOR

Hibernation

Active

Active

802.15WPAN

Bob Heile

802.16BWA

Roger Marks

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IEEE 802 Status (Aug1999)• 802.1 VLAN Approved (802.1)Q• 802.2 Hibernation• 802.3 1000BASE-T Approved, 10G Study Group Underway• 802.4 Hibernation• 802.5 High Speed Token Ring• 802.6 Hibernation• 802.7 Hibernation• 802.8 Fiber Guidelines Ballot• 802.9 Hibernation• 802.10 Hibernation• 802.11 Higher Speed Activity Underway• 802.12 Hibernation• 802.14 WG Draft Ballot, Advanced PHY PAR• 802.15 WPAN Task Group, Coexistence Study Group and Marketing Committee

Underway• 802.16 Broadband Access Projects (LMDS). This will also have ETSI coordination

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IEEE P802.15 Organization

A d visory C ore

C oexis ten ce S tu d y G rou p (S G )

S tu d y G rou p s

M an ag m en t E n tityL L C S u b layerM A C S u b layerP H Y L ayer

S u b Task G rou p s

Task G rou p 1 (TG 1 )

Task G rou p s

M arke tin g C om m ittee (M C )

C om m ittees

P 8 0 2 .1 5 W G

W G C h a ir

S p on sorIE E E 8 0 2

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IEEE 802 Standards Process

You are here

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Task Group 1 Update

• Where

• What

• When

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Where - TG1 is here• ~Jun97 - Idea for standard• Mar98 - Find Sponsor• Feb99 - Submit PAR• Mar99 - Approve PAR• Jul99 - Organize working

group• Sep99 - Develop draft

standard• ? - Ballot draft standard• ? - Approve draft standard• ? - Publish approved

standard

You are here

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What - TG1 is here

• Write scope and purpose

• Examine related standards and publications

• Draft outline• Fill in outline• Revise, revise, revise• Finalize document

You are here

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When - TG1 done by Dec00• ~Jun97 - Idea for standard• Mar98 - Find Sponsor• Feb99 - Submit PAR• Mar99 - Approve PAR• Jul99 - Organize working

group• Sep99 - Develop draft

standard• Nov99 - Ballot draft

standard• Mar00 - Approve draft

standard• Dec00 - Publish approved

standardYou could be here

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Participant Goals• “Do the right job at the right time." ETSI - IEEE-SA Co-

operative Agreement 21Apr99– Annex1 b) IEEE-SA 802 (Radio LANs), number 3

• IEEE wants to comply to following statement from the Bluetooth SIG:– “Additionally the Bluetooth SIG is currently in discussions

with ETSI to develop a world-wide standard based on Bluetooth that covers the entire Bluetooth capabilities stack. If these discussions go forward, then the Bluetooth SIG would like ETSI and IEEE coordinates their efforts so that both standards interoperate.” Jim Kardach, 15Jul99

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How to cooperate

• Scenario Planning– Scenario 1

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Scenario 1

• Bluetooth v1.0 A Foundation Specification – L1-L7

• Standard– ETSI L3-L7

– IEEE 802 L1-L2

Physical Layer(PHY)

Medium AccessControl (MAC)

Logical Link Control(LLC)

Physical

Data Link

Network

Transport

Session

Presentation

Application7

6

5

4

3

2

1

ISO OSILayers

IEEE 802Standards

Hardware

Software

Transport Control Protocol (TCP)

Internet Protocol (IP)

X.400 and X.500 EMAIL

{= ETSI/IEEE

Interface

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Scenario 1 (cont.)• Issues

– Prevent consumer and user confusion that could result from non-interoperable specifications, and

– Provide a mechanism to test interoperability between Bluetooth, IEEE, and ETSI solutions by maintaining appropriate testing interfaces.

?

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Scenario 1 (cont.)

Physical

Data Link

Network

Transport

Session

Presentation

Application

Physical

Data Link

Network

Transport

Session

Presentation

Application

=

Physical

Data Link

Network

Transport

Session

Presentation

Application

=

Specification Standards Development Standards

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Scenario 1 (cont.)

• Summary– The IEEE feels a cooperative arrangement

could be agreed to by both Standards Development Organizations.

– We would envision IEEE carrying the ETSI standard so users could get both and the same for ETSI by having them carry the IEEE standard.

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Next Steps• Exchanging of information from the P802.15 e.g., Bluetooth/IEEE

areas, • Accessibility of Bluetooth/IEEE working documents and

Bluetooth/IEEE drafts, and • The nomination of an observer from IEEE P802.15 Working Group to

the relevant ETSI technical body and vice-versa• Sharing Bluetooth/IEEE agendas that contain items of mutual interest• ETSI to commit to the conversion of IEEE P802.15 (OSI/ISO Layer 1

and 2) outputs into ETSI deliverables by a "to be" designated ETSI Technical Body and vice-versa

• If this ETSI Technical Body is inclined then we welcome ETSI Editor assistance in drafting this IEEE P802.15 (OSI/ISO Layer 1 and 2) document(s)

• Recruit ETSI Technical Body Members into IEEE P802.15• Identify ETSI role in the P802.15.1 Draft Comments

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Draft Comments - ETSI’s Role?

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IEEE: Contact Information• Richard J. Holleman - IEEE Standards Board Chairman

– holleman@us.ibm.com– Tel: +1 914 765 4375

• Donald N. Heirman, NCE, IEEE Standards Board Vice Chairman– d.heirman@worldnet.att.net– Tel: +1 732-741-7723

• Susan Tatiner, Director Standards Publishing Programs– s.tatiner@ieee.org– Tel: +1 732 562 3830

• Jerome T. Walker, Manager Business Development– j.t.walker@ieee.org– Tel: +1 732 562 3823

• Ian C. Gifford - IEEE P802.15.1 Chair– giffordi@amp.com– Tel: +1 978 442 4650

• Tom Siep - IEEE P802.15.1 Editor– siep@ti.com– Tel: +1 972 480 6786

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IEEE: Additional Information

• IEEE/ETSI 3 year cooperative agreement– http://standards.ieee.org/board/stdsbd/

1998index.html • IEEE General

– http://www.ieee.org/– http://standards.ieee.org/– http://standards.ieee.org/faqs/index.html

• IEEE P802.15 WG– http://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/15/