Example from Wang group Work of Jiasheng Lu. Starting material.

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Example from Wang group

Work of Jiasheng Lu

Starting material

CH3

CH3

CH3B

5N+

4

1

3

2

B-

CH3

CH3

CH3B

6

7

11

8

10

9

12

UV: Postulated Reaction

6

7

11

8

10

95

N+

4

1

3

2

12B-

CH3A

CH3

CH3B

+CH3 CH3

CH3

H-NMR: Mesitylene

CH3 CH3

CH3

H-NMR: Aliphatic region

*: Starting material

*

6

7

11

8

10

95

N+

4

1

3

2

12B-

CH3A

CH3

CH3B

Me-A

Me-B

CH3 CH3

CH3

CH3 CH3

CH3

B

R R

New compound

H-NMR: Aromatic region

6

7

11

8

10

95

N+

4

1

3

2

12B-

CH3A

CH3

CH3B

*: Starting material

** * *

CH3 CH3

CH3

COSY: Full SW

Me

CH3 CH3

CH3

B

R R

Arom

atic

COSY expansion: Me vs aromatic

Me

H-C=

Me

CH3 CH3

CH3

B

R R

Starting material

Me

H-C=

CH3 CH3

CH3

B

R R

New compound Me

Me

H-C=

CH3 CH3

CH3

Methyl groups have long range coupling with ortho aromatic protons

COSY: aromatic

6

7

11

8

10

95N+

4

1

3

2

12B-

Ms

1 24

Py: 1 – 2 – 3 – 4

MsMsMs

3

Other ring : A – B – C – DNot sure which proton is H-7Start with a doublet (can be either H7 or H10) then goTo the next proton to identify the suite.

We will assign later with NOESY which one is H7

ABCD

Most deshielded

NOESY: Choosing the Mixing time

• You cannot use too short mixing time: it takes time to develop NOE. It takes T1 – too short mixing time would not show any cross peaks between protons!

• You cannot use too long mixing time. If you use too long mixing time, you can loose the labels of the chemical shifts that you record carefully during the evolution time (t1)

• For small molecules, the best mixing time is ~ 80% of the T1 value. (this is where the signal goes to null intensity in inversion recovery

Measuring relaxation time: Inversion recovery

Prepare for NOESY: evaluate relaxation time

Py: 1 – 2 – 3 – 4

Other: A – B – C – D

6

7

11

8

10

95N+

4

1

3

2

12B-

Ms

Ms

Ms

Ms

1

A 4

23

D

C

12 ?

Aromatic regionInversion recovery:

Why different rate?

Dipole Relaxation depends on the distance between protons and on the mobility of the molecule

Ms is the smallest molecule: fast motion, not efficient T1 longest relaxation time

In Pyridine ring, H4 has faster relaxation: it has one ortho neighbor (H3) and it’s close to H7 on other ring. In fact, H7 must be very close to H4 because H3 and H2 (which has 2 ortho neighbors) relax slower than H4

HA relax fast at ~ same rate as H4: same type of neighbors: may be H7 ?

H-NMR Inversion recovery: Methyl region

Ms

CH3 CH3

CH3

B

R R

Starting material

CH3 CH3

CH3

B

R R

New compound

Ms

Ms

MsMs

CH2-12

CH3 CH3

CH3

Ms is the smallest molecule: fast motion, not efficient T1 longest relaxation time

NOESY: Choosing the mixing time

• You cannot use too short mixing time: it takes time to develop NOE. It takes T1 – too short mixing time would not show any cross peaks between protons!

• You cannot use too long mixing time. If you use too long mixing time, you can loose the labels of the chemical shifts that you record carefully during the evolution time (t1)

• For small molecules, the best mixing time is ~ 80% of the T1 value. (this is where the signal goes to null intensity in inversion recovery

In our case, MIXING = 2 sec. will do good job according to T1

NOESY : mix time 2sMethyl vs aromatic

Me

Ms

CH3 CH3

CH3

B

R R

Starting material

MsPy

Py: 1 – 2 – 3 – 4

Other: A – B – C – D

6

7

11

8

10

95N+

4

1

3

2

12B-

Ms

Ms12 ?A D C B1 4 23

CH3 CH3

CH3

Me

Me

New compound

Me

Me

NOESY :mix time 2sAromatic

Py: 1 – 2 – 3 – 4

Other: A – B – C – D

6

7

11

8

10

95N+

4

1

3

2

12B-

Ms

MsMs1 A 4

Ms

D C12

23B

A

7 – 8 – 9 – 10

C

12

D

D

What’s left? Assign C13

Use HSQC to assign carbons that are directly attached to protons 1JCH

Use HMBC to assign carbons that are further away from protons nJCH

(HSQC : Heteronuclear Single Quantum Correlation)

(HMBC: Heteronuclear Multiple Bond Correlation)

HSQC: aromatic Ms

Ms1 7 4

Ms

10 912

238

6

7

11

8

10

95N+

4

1

3

2

12B-

Ms

C1: 136.2

C2: 115.5

C3: 127.9

C4: 121.5

C7: 124.5

C8: 119.5

Ms: 127.4

C9: 128.6

C10: 128.4

C12: 118.5

HSQC: MethylMs

MsMs

CH3 CH3

CH3

B

R R

Starting material

CH3 CH3

CH3

B

R R

New compound

CH3 CH3

CH3

MsCH221.0

25.2

20.6

Ms

22.5

21.1

HMBC: MethylMs

MsMs

CH3 CH3

CH3

B

R R

Starting material

CH3 CH3

CH3

B

R R

New compound

CH3 CH3

CH3

MsCH221.0

25.2

20.6

Ms

22.5

21.1136.7

127.5

140.2

138.9

HMBC: aromatic Ms

Ms1 7 4

Ms

10 912

238

6

7

11

8

10

95N+

4

1

3

2

12B-

Ms

C1: 136.2

C2: 115.5

C3: 127.9

C4: 121.5

C7: 124.5

C8: 119.5

C9: 128.6

C10: 128.4

C12: 118.5

CH3 CH3

CH3

B

R R

22.5

21.1136.7

127.5

140.2

138.9

2

C5: 142.3

6C6: 118.8

11

9

C11: 145.6

10

11