HealthSparq Customer Summit Feb 25 2015

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JAMIA, 1997

“e-Patient Dave” deBronkart Twitter: @ePatientDave facebook.com / ePatientDave LinkedIn.com / in / ePatientDave dave@epatientdave.com Skype: ePatientDave

How Educated Consumers Can Change Healthcare

“Patient” is not a third person word

How I came to be here

•  High tech marketing •  Data geek; tech trends; automation •  2007: Cancer discover & recovery

•  2008: E-Patient blogger

•  2009: Participatory Medicine, Public Speaker

•  2010: full time

•  2011: international

“e-Patient Dave” deBronkart Twitter: @ePatientDave facebook.com/ePatientDave LinkedIn.com/in/ePatientDave dave@epatientdave.com

e-Patient Boot Camp Athens 2013

Photo of the Acropolis here

“e-Patient Dave” deBronkart Twitter: @ePatientDave

Cows behind a veil of secrecy Reinhardt didn’t realize!

facebook.com / ePatientDave LinkedIn.com / in / ePatientDave dave@epatientdave.com

“I want to note especially the importance of the resource

that is most often under- utilized in our information systems – our

patients”

Charles Safran MD, Beth Israel Deaconess quoting his colleague, Warner Slack MD Testimony to the House Ways & Means subcommittee on health, 2004

e-Patients.net founder Tom Ferguson MD 1944-2006

Equipped Engaged Empowered Enabled”

Doc Tom said, “e-Patients are

Pt of future

Me? An indicator of the future??

•  Who’s getting online: –  1989: Me (CompuServe sysop) –  2009: 83% of US adults (Pew)

•  Who’s romancing online: –  1999: I met my wife (Match.com) –  2009: One in eight weddings

in the U.S. met online –  2011: One in five couples

met online

The Engaged Patient 12 items in my pre-appointment “agenda” email

The Incidental Finding Routine shoulder x-ray, Jan. 2, 2007

“Your  shoulder      will  be  fine  …      but  there’s        something        in  your  lung”  

Multiple tumors in both lungs Where’s This From??

E-Patient Activity 1: Researching my condition

Classic Stage IV, Grade 4

Renal Cell Carcinoma

Illustration on the drug company’s

web site

Median Survival: 24 weeks

Facing the Reaper

My mother

My daughter

After the shock you’re left with the question:

What are my options? What can I do?

Get engaged.

Get it in gear.

Do everything you can.

E-Patient Activity 2: “My doctor prescribed ACOR”

(Community of my patient peers)

ACOR members told me:

•  This is an uncommon disease – get to a hospital that does a lot of cases

•  There’s no cure, but HDIL-2 sometimes works. – When it does, about half the time it’s permanent – The side effects are severe.

•  Don’t let them give you anything else first

•  Here are four doctors in your area who do it –  And one of them was at my hospital

E-Patient Activity 3: Reading (and sharing)

my hospital data online

Surgery & Interleukin worked. Target Lesion 1 – Left Upper Lobe

Baseline: 39x43 mm 50 weeks: 20x12 mm

Question:

How can it be

that the most useful and relevant and

up-to-the-minute information

can exist outside of traditional channels?

“If I read two journal articles every night, at the end of a year I’d be 400 years behind.”

It’s not humanly possible to keep up.

Dr. Lindberg: 400 years

The lethal lag time: 2-5 years

During this time, people who might have benefitted can die.

Patients have all the time in the world to look for such things.

The time it takes after successful research is completed before publication is completed and the article’s been read.

Because of the Web, Patients Can Connect to Information and Each Other (and other Providers)

“Data Liberación!”

Todd Park Innovator Entrepreneur HHS Chief Technical Officer US Chief Technical Officer

“Information liquidity” transforms

what’s possible

Not liquid Liquid •  Moving it takes effort

•  Slow and predictable

•  Arrival on unexplained “tracks” is suspicious

•  Frictionless – controlling the flow takes effort

•  Fast and unpredictable

•  “Tracks” are everywhere

Compare with

- “To Err is Human” (98,000 deaths/yr Nov 1999)

Death by Googling: Not. (Dr. Gunther Eysenbach, Europe: 0 deaths found in a three year search)

- HHS Inspector General (15,000/mo Nov 2010)

“It may be more dangerous

not to google your condition.”

“These conclusions

are no more anti-doctor or anti-medicine

than Copernicus and Galileo ..were anti-astronomer.”

Patients can simply contribute more today than in the past.

Obstacle to adoption: “But patients

don’t understand this stuff.”

If the data’s unclear let’s MAKE it clear

Like other industries do.

Thomas Goetz, Wired

Thomas Goetz, Wired “It’s time to redesign medical data”

Same data – better software.

Information: clearer.

Consumer: informed, enabled.

Things look different when you get the center right

Source: Wikipedia, Copernican Revolution

Everyone’s saying “Patient engagement is the

blockbuster drug of the century”

Not so fast. Let’s look deeper.

Drugs have two components:

the Active Ingredient that produces the result,

and the Vehicle,

which carries the active ingredient to the point where it can act

to produce value.

Patient engagement per se

is just the vehicle. It enables potential value to reach the point of need.

But what’s the active ingredient??

What are the concrete, specific, real, tangible ways

that patient engagement genuinely alters value

in clinical and business reality?

People perform better when they’re

informed better.

It’s perverse to keep people

in the dark

and call them ignorant

Corollary:

What happens when a consumer

tries to be responsible about costs?

N.H. insurance shopping, 2011

Premium    

Deduc+ble    

Co-­‐pay  a4er    

deduc+ble  

Max  OOP    (deduc+ble    +  co-­‐pay)  

Stop-­‐loss  max  (in-­‐network  +  

out)  

Op#on  A   $894    

Op#on  B   $705    

Op#on  C   $581    

Op#on  D   $495    

Op#on  H   $624    

The choices they offered

Premium    

Deduc+ble    

Co-­‐pay  a4er    

deduc+ble  

Max  OOP    (deduc+ble    +  co-­‐pay)  

Stop-­‐loss  max  (in-­‐network  +  

out)  

Op#on  A   $894     $1,000    

Op#on  B   $705     $2,500    

Op#on  C   $581     $5,000    

Op#on  D   $495     $10,000    

Op#on  H   $624     $5,950    

The choices they offered

Premium    

Deduc+ble    

Co-­‐pay  a4er    

deduc+ble  

Max  OOP    (deduc+ble    +  co-­‐pay)  

Stop-­‐loss  max  (in-­‐network  +  

out)  

Op#on  A   $894     $1,000     20%  

Op#on  B   $705     $2,500     20%  

Op#on  C   $581     $5,000     20%  

Op#on  D   $495     $10,000     0%  

Op#on  H   $624     $5,950     0%  

The choices they offered

Premium    

Deduc+ble    

Co-­‐pay  a4er    

deduc+ble  

Max  OOP    (deduc+ble    +  co-­‐pay)  

Stop-­‐loss  max  (in-­‐network  +  

out)  

Op#on  A   $894     $1,000     20%   $3,500     $12,500    

Op#on  B   $705     $2,500     20%   $5,000     $12,500    

Op#on  C   $581     $5,000     20%   $7,500     $12,500    

Op#on  D   $495     $10,000     0%   $10,000     n/a  

Op#on  H   $624     $5,950     0%   $5,950     $12,500    

I know – run some scenarios!

=IF(maxoop<J17+J18,maxoop,J17+J18)

I know – graph it!

My favorite complaint:

“Patients are the only ones who don’t have

any skin in the game” - Practice manager, quoted in

Health Leaders, Fall 2011

2011: EOB for a scan

Winter: Shingles vaccines

Speaking of skin in the game…

Doing what empowered buyers do dave.pt/skincancerRFP

Obstacle to adoption: “My patients aren’t asking

for this.”

And finally: recognition

from the establishment

Patient-Clinician Partnerships Engaged, empowered patients— A learning health care system is anchored on patient needs and perspectives and promotes the inclusion of patients, families, and other caregivers as vital members of the continuously learning care team.

Institute of Medicine – Sept 2012 Major New Report: “Best Care at Lower Cost”

October 2007

2.8 e-Patient Years in Pictures December 2006 May 2009

Thank you, medicine.

JAMIA, 1997

“e-Patient Dave” deBronkart Twitter: @ePatientDave facebook.com / ePatientDave LinkedIn.com / in / ePatientDave dave@epatientdave.com Skype: ePatientDave

How Educated Consumers Can Change Healthcare