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• Kaz Technologies was started in 1995
• We have a staff of 7 engineers
– Over 91 years of combined racing and automotive engineering
experience
• GM Racing
– Resident 7-post and shock technical specialists
– 7-post testing for GM racing
– 7-post & damper testing tools
– Race Engineering
• What else do we do?
– Race Engineering
– Damper design and development
– Damper sales and service
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• Jim Kasprzak• 36 years racing experience
• Developed 7-post testing for GM
• Expertise includes:– Race Engineering
– 7 post testing
– Suspension Engineering
– Shock design, development, & tuning
– Vehicle Tuning
• 31 years automotive experience– Arvin Ride Control
• Director, Original Equipment Engineering
• Director, New Product Development
– Monroe Auto Equipment
• Chief Engineer, Electronic Systems
• Manager, Suspension System Programs
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• We asked YOU to send in your questions, and here they
are! We’ll be covering:
– Data Acquisition and Analysis
– Shock Tuning on your car
– Damping Calculations
• Please ASK QUESTIONS! We’re here to help and guide
you through this process.
• When you see this it means we’re answering one
of your questions!
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Vehicle
Data
MotionRatio
Wheel RateRide Rate
Natural Frequencies
Sprung & Unsprung
Critical Damping
Sprung & Unsprung
Damping
Ratio
Desired
Damping Ratio
Knee
Speed
Compression/Rebound
Ratio
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• The level of damping that allows the mass to
return to steady state most quickly with no
overshoot is critical damping.
Ccr = Critical Damping Coefficient (N-s/m) KS = System Spring Rate (N/m) M = System Mass (kg)
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• The ratio of the damping coefficient to the
coefficient at critical damping. Think of it as a
damping rate.
ξ = Damping Ratio (N -s/m) C = Damping coefficient (N-s/m) Ccr = Critical damping coefficient (N-s/m)
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Aero RacecarsRide: 0.7-1.1Roll: 6.0-9.0
Milliken
Non-Aero
Racecars
Passenger
Car
Critical
Damping
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• Choose Damping Ratios for:– Low speed compression
– Low speed rebound
– High speed compression
– High speed rebound
Low speed is body control and transitions, high
speed is control over bumps.
• Choose Compression to Rebound Ratio
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Damping Rates N-s/mm
High Speed
Compression
High Speed
Rebound
Low Speed
Compression
Low Speed
Rebound
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Control two different masses with one damper•Sprung mass•Unsprung mass
Damper has many functions•Control resonant frequencies•Control transient weight transfer rates
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Compression
Rebound
Low SpeedCompression/Rebound
Ratio
High SpeedCompression/Rebound
Ratio
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DP Car #1 DP Car #2
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DP Car # 1 DP Car # 2
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Most sources I've
read say that
damping curves
should be biased
toward higher
rebound damping
and softer
compression. Is
there any truthbehind this, and if
so, why is this
better than having
symmetric damping
curves orcompression-
biased curves?
Typical Damping
Compression Biased
Compression
Compression
Rebound
Rebound
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In your seminar on damping calculations last
year there was no mention of anti roll bars.
Other sources also neglect to mention them.
Since ARB's can sometimes cause a significant
increase in the wheel rate for single wheel
bumps, shouldn't they be considered whenspecifying dampers for a racecar?
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All my calculations were based on assumed
weights. What do I do when I place a scaleunder each tire and get the true weight?
Do I rework all my calculations?
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Unsprung Mass Natural Frequency
• The undamped resonant frequency of the unsprung mass
K S = Spring Rate (N/m) K S = Spring Rate (N/m)
KS = Spring Rate (N/m) KT =Tire Rate (N/m) WUS = Unsprung Weight (kg) g= Acceleration due to Gravity (m/sec2)
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KR= Ride Rate (N/m)
KW= Wheel Rate (N/m)
KT= Tire Spring Rate (N/m)
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• Motion Ratio
– The ratio of shock/spring travel to wheel travel
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• Dyno test dampers
• Damper adjustment range
• Damper fit check• Setup sheet
– Packer gap
• Session sheet• Data analysis pages
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•Low Hysteresis•Smooth
•No Incongruities•No Lag orCavitation
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Incongruities
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Loss of dampingforce fromcavitation and lag
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Make sure shocks fit correctly!
– Correct travels• Shock and spring
– Check jounce bumper engagement
– No binding or interferences
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Must properly position shock at ride
height
• Typically mid stroke at ride height
• Determine shock travel on track
– Use data acquisition
• Check for bottoming/topping
– Use travel indicator on shock rod
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EventInformation
Chassis Information
Gearbox Information
Aero Information
Session Tabs
Packer Gap
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Session Information
Tire Data
Driver Comments
Changes
Tire Info
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Understeer Gradient = U/S Grad=
(Steer -ATAN(WB/((Speed*1.467)^2/(Lat*32.167))))))/Lat
U/S Grad = Understeer Gradient (Deg/G)
Steer = Tire Steering Angle (deg)
WB = Wheel Base (inches)
Speed = Vehicle Speed (mph) Lat = Lateral Acceleration (G)
Understeer = (Lat > 0.5)* U/S Grad
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Speed
Throttle Brake
Understeer
Lateral
Accelerat ion
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Do you have any tips for using data acquisition
to evaluate damper performance (assuming we
have the standard sensors like accelerometers
and shock travel sensors). What should we be
looking for in the data (i.e. targeting a specificdamper velocity during cornering/braking,
front and rear roll angles stay relatively close
throughout corners etc) ?
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Wheel Speed
Throttle Brake
Pressure
Lateral
Accelerat ion
Understeer
Gradient
Steering Angle
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Steering
Throttle
Damper Displacement
Damper
Velocity
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Rear Shocks
Steering
Throttle Brake
Understeer
Packer Engagement
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Front Roll Gradient (1.34) Rear Roll Gradient (1.4)
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Damper Tuning on the Car
What vehicle dynamics test
should I perform once the
car is running?
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To make car move at Sprung Mass Resonance
Observe visuallyAnalyze data
Fix pitch, then heaveMay have to adjust spring rates
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Steering
Throttle
Left Damper
Right Damper
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Steering
Throttle
Left Damper
Right Damper
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Illustration from Optimum G Spring and
Dampers Tech Tip 1, Girafa
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To make wheels resonate or bounce
Observe visually
Analyze data
More AND less compressionMore AND less rebound
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How do I verify my shocks are working as
intended? Say I designed for 1 in bump/droop.
How do I verify that's what I'm (not) getting?
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Rear Shocks
Steering
Throttle Brake
Understeer
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Stable? Yes, No
Neutral, Understeer or Oversteer?
Neutral, Understeer or Oversteer?
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