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l?IR.MARR Arvad. Police/Court System Arvada Police Department NARRATIVE Page 1.0 05/10/1999 # 99-12057 'l:ype ASSTOA Location 6201 S PIERCE ST Reported Date 04/20/1999 Time 12:39:32 Stat.US RTF DET43 05/01/1999 OS0299/BQATRIGHTfMQ gunshots" Patti Slair stated she could hear what sounded like people "moaning, II howev-er, it was not loud. Patti Blair est.imat.ed she remained under the table for approximately two minute$ when she began to hear "ev01:Y0ne trying to get out." When asked to exPlain that. statement/ Patti alair responded, »Those that could: ran,!\ Patti Slair stated she did not immadiately get up and was still being cautious due to the fact she did not. know the exact location of the suspects. Patti Blair related as people began to move through the library she did nat additional gunshots and felt it was safe to leave. Patti Blair stated most of the people in the library had been moving towards a north exit which she clarified was not the same one used by the suspects. Patti indicated when the suspeces left the library they exited via the east {main entrancel • Patti Blair stated by the time she had gotten up from underneath the table most everyone had left the library. Patti Blair added/ WI chink I was one of the last to leave. ll In respect. to Heather Jacobson's whereabouts, Patti Blair stated she believed Heather Jacobson had already left the library by that point, Patti Blair stated she was certain Heather Jacobson had moved from under the table by the time she got up. Patti Blair stated as she slowly began to move in a northwesterly direction through the library ahe began to hear a female student voice coming from the southeast section of the library. Patti Blair indicated this voice stated, "He Lp me, help me. Ir Patti Blair then began to cry {during the interview) stating she continued to exit the library and felt unable to help the female student" Patti Blair indicated she somehow moved into the section of the library and after she arrived up near the front counter looked over to the section of tables looated in the far west area of the library, Patti Blair stated it was at that point she believed she could see Isaiah and recalled ;ll:steam coming from his body. If When asked to be more specifi-c concerning the location of Isaiah Shoela, Patei Blair reported she could only recall he was somewhere underneath a table located On the west side of the library. Patti alair then stated it waS possible she had made the observation concerning Isaiah as she was navigating her way up towards the front desk. Patti Blair was unable to more specific concerning that point. patti Blair related ac the point she arrived at the front counter she then walked in a northerly direction into one of the back rooms which connected to another room that had a west facing door leading out into the hallway. Patti alalr stated she then walked out inco the hallway and proceeded a short distance north through the exit. Blair explained when the library via the north door was located a short distance away from the west ent=ance to the school. Patti Blair stated almost immediately upon exiting the librarj JC-001- 000301
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Location 6201 S PIERCE ST
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gunshots" Patti Slair stated she could hear what sounded likepeople "moaning, II howev-er, it was not loud. Patti Blair est.imat.edshe remained under the table for approximately two minute$ when shebegan to hear "ev01:Y0ne trying to get out." When asked to exPlainthat. statement/ Patti alair responded, »Those that could: ran,!\Patti Slair stated she did not immadiately get up and was stillbeing cautious due to the fact she did not. know the exact locationof the suspects. Patti Blair related as people began to movethrough the library she did nat hea~ additional gunshots and feltit was safe to leave. Patti Blair stated most of the people in thelibrary had been moving towards a north exit which she clarifiedwas not the same one used by the suspects. Patti Ela~r indicatedwhen the suspeces left the library they exited via the eastentran~e, {main entrancel •
Patti Blair stated by the time she had gotten up fromunderneath the table most everyone had left the library. PattiBlair added/ WI chink I was one of the last to leave. ll In respect.to Heather Jacobson's whereabouts, Patti Blair stated she believedHeather Jacobson had already left the library by that point, PattiBlair stated she was certain Heather Jacobson had moved from underthe table by the time she got up. Patti Blair stated as she slowlybegan to move in a northwesterly direction through the library ahebegan to hear a female student voice coming from the southeastsection of the library. Patti Blair indicated this voice stated,"He Lp me, help me. Ir Patti Blair then began to cry {during theinterview) stating she continued to exit the library and feltunable to help the female student"
Patti Blair indicated she somehow moved into the cente~
section of the library and after she arrived up near the frontcounter looked over to the section of tables looated in the farwest area of the library, Patti Blair stated it was at that pointshe believed she could see Isaiah and recalled ;ll:steam coming fromhis body. If When asked to be more specifi-c concerning the locationof Isaiah Shoela, Patei Blair reported she could only recall he wassomewhere underneath a table located On the west side of thelibrary. Patti alair then stated it waS possible she had made theobservation concerning Isaiah as she was navigating her way uptowards the front desk. Patti Blair was unable to more specificconcerning that point.
patti Blair related ac the point she arrived at the frontcounter she then walked in a northerly direction into one of theback rooms which connected to another room that had a west facingdoor leading out into the hallway. Patti alalr stated she thenwalked out inco the hallway and proceeded a short distance norththrough the exit. Pa~ti Blair explained when exi~ing the libraryvia the north door sh~ was located a short distance away from thewest ent=ance to the school.
Patti Blair stated almost immediately upon exiting the librarj
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she observed a police car parked to the northwest of her location.Upon seeing the police car, Patti Blair stated ahe also saw apolice officer who was pointing a sun back towards the school.Patti Blair then ~ealized several studenes had be~~n hiding behindthe police car. Patti Blair told 10 after making the aboveobaervatoin she then moved as quickly as possible to where thepolice car was parked and took oover at that location.
When aSked what occurred after taking cover behind the policecarl Patti Blair recalled seeing $6veral people who were injuredand were being attended to by other students. Patei Blair stated'he was attempting to assist in the first aid efforts bycontrolling bleeding. Patti Blair pointed out some of the malestudents had removed their shirts for that purpose. Patti Blairthen explained after a period of time additional police carsarrived in the area after which the most seriously injured wereevacuated. Patti Blair related eventually all the $tudants wereevacuated to a safe location.
Pursuant to questioning l ~atti Blair recalled seeingindividuals she recogni~ed taking cover behind the police car.Patti Blair identified those individuals as Dan Steepleton( SteveGreenwood, Crystal Woodman and Makai Hall. Patti Blair pointed ~~t
she believed the~e were an additional l5 to 20 students at thatlocation" however, she could not recall their names. Patti Blairindicated ghe was unable to recall any additional detailsconcerning this incident.
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JBFFBRSON COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE
Defendant, HarrisjKlebol~
Date, April 2" 19"Deputy D .A. :
Docket lhlmber:Case lhlmber, 99AOti2Investigator. Gallagher M.
On April 29, 1999 this investigator con~ucted an interview withBrittany Bollerud in reference to the Columbine High Schoolshooting. MS. Bolleru~ was in the library during the shooting. Ms.Bolleru~ made the following statements.
Me. Bollerud stated she ...ent to the library on Aprilduring her lunch break. She is not sure of the exact time.sitting at table number e in the diagram.
20, 1999She was
Ms. Bollerud stated a teacher later identified as Peggy Nielsoncame Lnt,o the li:brary and said Chere was a man with a gun. Theteacher told everyone to get under the table.
Ms. Bollerud stated she got under the table with fellow studentJoshua Lapp. She was entrenched with Josh Lapp under the table.She saw one of the gunmen wearing a black trench coat. He openedhis coat and pulled out what looked like a rifle. She did not seethe other gur~en.
Ms. Bollerud stated the only thing she heard the gunmen say wascover me, covez me. Before the gunmen left she heard one of them
say they had to reload.
Ms.ceiling.in God.
Bollerud heard the shooting and saw stuff falloff theShe heard one of the gunmen ask someone if they believed
She heard a scream but is unsure if she heard a shot.
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Ms. Bollerud described her backpack as a blue JansSport. She
had $20 to $30 in her wallet along with her ID. These items were in
her purse inside of her backpack. Ms.Bollerud also stated she found
a wallet belonging to Megan Coxey and she did not have a chance to
return the wallet to Megan. The wallet was also in the backpack.
The backpack was left in the library.
MS.students
Bollerud eSCaped from
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I next interviewed Brad Bollerud.
statements.
Brad made the following
Brad stated he was in Mr> Joh.."lson· s science class at
approximately 11: 15 A.M. when he heard what sounded like somebody
throwing rocks at the window and several people running down the
hallway.
Mr. Sanders, who teaches KeyboardS and Business came into the
science room. Mr. Sanders had blood allover his face and it looked
like he had been shot. There was other teachers, who came into help
with Mr. sanders. They were identified as Mr. Friesen and Mrs.
wyatt. The teachers were telling Mr. Sanders not to talk.
Mr. Johnson told us to line up against the cabinets in the
classroom. There were five unidentified fres!'.men who ran into the
classroom yelling there were gunmen Shooting people.
Mr. Bollerud stated they stayed in the room until Swat got them
out some two hours later.
Mr. Bollerud stated he has a black/tan with the name Adam
Sandler written on the bottom of his backpack. The backpack was
left in the science room. He also had a Mile HI coat and a set of
keys left in his locker # 210.
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I asked both Brittany and Brad Bollerud if they heard anythingabout it being a bad day or anything about Hitler's birthday on themarquees or over the intercom. They both stated they never heard or
saw anything.
Information: Brittany Bolle~Jd
DOB 7-5-82
Bradley BollerudSame DOB
7505 So. Yukon Ct.Littleton, Co.80128
303-932-9641
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Brittany Bollerud, date Of birth July 5, 1982, 7505South Yukon Court, Littleton, Colorado 80128, te!ephone number(303) 932-9641, was interviewed at her home in the oresence ofher parents, Gary and Vicky Bollerud, and her twin ~rother,Bradley Bollerud. After being advised of the identity of theinterviewing Agent and the nature of the interview, Bollerudfurnished the following information:
Bollerud is a student at Columbine High School. Herfirst period class is an open or free period. She wouldtypically go to the Library during this period. This period runsfrom 7:30 a.m. to 8:20 a.m .. During second period, she hasBiology with Mr. Kraft. This class runs from 8:20 a,m. to 9:15a.m.. Second period is extended an additional five minutes toallow for the Rebel News Network announcements to be broadcastover televisions within the classrooms. Bollerud does notspecifically remember watching the announcements on April 20,1999. She does not remember anything unusual about theannouncements, Her third period class runs from 9:20 a.m. to10:10 a.m. and is Keyboarding with Mr. Sanders. Fourth periodEollerud has Spanish with Ms. Freund. This class runs from 10:15a.m. to 11:05 a.m .. From 11:10 a.m. to 11:40 a.m. Bollerud haswhat is known as "l;!' Lunch. Normally during her lunch period,Bollerud would go to the Library and meet with Josh Lapp, AaronCohn, and Byron Kirkland. Prior to going to the Library, she onoccasion would stop at her locker and change out her books.
On April 20, 1999, Bollerud remembers going straight tothe Library from her Spanish class. She believes she would havearrived just after 11:10 a.m.. She sat down at table #8 withLapp, Cohn, and Byron Kirkland. Attachment A is a diagram of theColumbine High School Librarf. Bollerud indicated on the diagramthe locations of the students around the table. Bollerud sat atthe location marked as number 1. Lapp, Cohn and Kirkland areindicated by the numbers 2, 3 and 4 respectively.
Bollerud remembers Isiah Shoels corning aver to hertable and talking for a few minutes. This occurred a coupleminutes after she sat down at the table, She can't remember ifShoels sat down at the table or stood and talked. Bollerudremembers another student Ryan Barrett coming over to their table
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asking for money to use for the copier machine. While Shoels wasat her table or just after he left, Craig Scott Game cver and satdown at the table. Scott sat in the middle chair on the northside of the table. He was at the table talking for approximatelyfive minutes. After Shoels and Scott left the table, they bothwent to the west side of the Library.
After Scott and Shoels left their table, Bollerud beganworking on her Language Arts homework. Approximately five to tenminutes later, a short female teacher with curly hair and wearinga pink shirt entered the Library. Bollerud later learned fromLapp that this was Ms. Nielson. Nielson said, 'Everybody getdown there's a man wi th a gun." Lapp, Kirkland, and Cohn all gotup from their chairs. Lapp went "tne long wa;l around" the tableand got under the table with Bollerud. Lapp was under the tablein the southwest corner with his head resting against the middlesupport post. Bollerud was on the northwest corner of the tablehuddled into Lapp's chest. Lapp was covering her ears andholding her face into his chest, Lapp did not let Bollerud lookup much during the incident within the Library. Because of theway Lapp was holding Bollerud and covering her ears, she did notsee or hear much of the comments or movement of the gunmen. DanMauser, hiding under table #9, and Bollerud did look at eachother prior to the gunmen entering the Library,
After Lapp got under the table and held her, Bollerudbegan to cry. She does not know where Kirkland or Cohn moved towithin the Library. Bollerud does not remember hearing anysounds of voices or gun shots in the hallway outside the Library,Bollerud knew the ~Jnmen had entered the Library and quicklyglanced up. She could see between the reference table and theglass trophy case. She saw a whole body view of one of thegunman for a split second. She described him as a white male,being very tall and dressed in all black. He wore a blacktrenchcoat, black pants, and black combat boots. As Bollerudglanced at him, he reached into the left side of his trenchcoatand pulled out a long gun. She remembers the gun to have beenbig. She clcsed her eyes and put her face back in Lapp's chest.
Bollerud thought the gunmen may have started on theeast side of the Library. She does remember hearing one of thegunmen ask someone on the east side of the Library if theybelieved in God. She heard an answer but does not recall what
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the answer was. This was followed by at least two gun shots anda very loud scream from a female student.
The gun shots and explosions in the Library were soloud, that Bollerud could not distinguish the specific directionthat they carne, 'She dOeS remember hearing a rapid burst ofgunfire in the east section. She thought that the burst may havebeen four or five or more gunshots. After shooting in the eastside of the Library, Bollerud saw a glimpse of one of the gunmen.She cannot recall the specific location of the gunmen and did notsee all of him. She was unable to give any description of thegunmen. The gunmen must have been moving from the east sectionto or through the middle section of the Library.
Bollerud knows the gunmen were on the west side of theLibrary. She knows there were gunshots on the west side. Shecould not give any specifics on the comments or gunshots on thewest side of the Library. Bollerud could not give a se~~ence ofthe gunmen moving between the east, west, or middle sections ofthe Library.
Bollerud knows the gunmen were in the middle section,but could not recall the specifics of any of the gunshots ormovements. She did catch a glimpse of a white male student withreally curly hair, nL~ning out of the Library. She believes hewas possibly under table ~12. She remembers hearing a commentfrom a gunmen of "if you want to live get out." After thecomment, Bollerud saw the student running and he appeared to beleaving the Library. She also remembers hearing one of thegunmen state he had always wanted to kill somebody with a knife.Bollerud did not know his location when he made this comment, butknows he was in the middle section of the Library.
Bollerud did not see Daniel Mauser get shot under table#9. After the gunmen left the middle section of the Library,Bollerud did look up and saw Mauser laying on the ground. He waswearing a gray shirt and she thought his stomach was moving. Shecould recall no other specifics of the gunmen's activities in themiddle section of the Library.
Bollerud did hear one of the"going to blow up the fucking Library."been made in the middle section of the
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not recall. Prior to the comment about blowing up the Library,one of the gunmen made a comment about this being revenge. < Shedoes recall hearing the gunmen talking to each other and on atleast two occasions telling each other to "cover me."
While Bollerud and Lapp were under the table, Bollerudrecalls feeling four or five explosions. The explosions shookthe ground and she thought they were coming from the Commonsarea. Bollerud saw particles falling from the ceiling above thebookshelves by table #11 as a result of the explosions.
After the Library got quiet and there was no moregunfire in the Librar]', students began leaving the Library.Bollerud and Lapp got up and exited out the back door of theLibrary. Bollerud could not recall seeing anything specific asshe left the Library. Her concentration was solely on leavingthe Library and not looking at her surroundings. Bollerud andLapp exited the back door of the Library and ran up the hill,hiding behind a police car.
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WITNESS
AARON COHN, DOB/4.28.83
8254 SOUTH REED STREET
LITTLETON,CO 80128
(303)979-2539
STUDENT COLUMBINE H.S.
INVESTIGAnON
On 4.10.99, at approximately 1300hours, I interviewedwitness Aaron Cohn. Aaron told me that when this incident began he
was in the libraryof the school. He was not sure of exactlywhat time it was. He told me "a teacher came in" and told the people
to get out as there was someone in the school with a gun, He told me that before be was able to get out of the library a '<kid in
trench coat came in." I asked him ifhe recognized the individual and he said he only knew him as "Dylan" Aaron told me
by that timehe was laying face down 00 the floor and therewas a girl he didn't know laying on top of him. Aaron told me that
this individual whom he recognized as Dylan walked by him and said, "How about you big boy, you want to get shot today."
He said he looked to his left and saw a shotgun barrel abouttwelve inchesaway fromhis head, He said the individual then said,
"Why don', you get up." He said he did not respond and just laid still. He said the individual thenJUst walked on. Aaron told
me he thenheard the individual that he recognized as Dylansay, "I don't likeyou fucking nlggers." He said about fifteenseconds
later he heard a shot, Aaron said he then heard Dylan say, "Tell me if that nigger's dead. I want to know if that nigger's dead."
Aaron told me for the next several moments he heard shooting whichhedescribed as like "firecrackers." He also told me that
he "felt explosions and heard them." Aaron told me that several minutesafter that he was able to get up and exit tile school to
safety I then concluded my interview with Aaron and released him to the custody ofhis father.
Cohn related he was in the library studying. The other people were lunch people whowere there studying. This Investigator asked if there was a formal program going on orjust people in their own little groups. Cohn indicated everybody was in their own littlegroups.
This Investigator showed to Cohn a map ofthe l.ibrary and asked him which table he wasat. He replied table 8, Coho identified the following peopleat histable:
LAPP. JOSHKIRKLAND, BYRONBOLLERUD, BRlTTANY
Coho indicated there may have beensome otherkid there but he does not know his name.Cohowas asked ifCraig Scott and Megan Coxey were at the tableand he said00.,
In regards to his back pack,he related it was at the table and it was a blue Jan Sport. Inthe pack was his science notebook.
Cohn entered the library at about 1120hrs, He next remembers looking at the clock at1128 hrs. Whenhe entered the library, Josh, Bryonand Brittany were alreadyat the table.It isunknownto Cohn who were at the other tables.
Shortly after 1128 hrs., the suspects come in. First however, a lady came in and went tothe front desk. She usedthe phoneandsaid therewasa kid in the hallway with a gun.
Cohnand Bryonwent to table 20. Josh and Brittany stayed at table 8 and got underneathit, Bryon got under table 20 with Andrew Fair, Cohn was laying ont in the open, Cohnwas wearing a baseball team shirt. Bree Pasquale (correct spelling unk.) laid on top ofhim. A secondgirlcameover andtalkedwithBree. Cohn did not know this person.
When the teacherwas yelling initially, Cohnthoughtit was a joke. Then when he got neartable 16, he heard somegunfire. Somekid came in the door who was a real bigkid,
possibly Brian Anderson. Everyone got down and Bree was still up. Cohn related hecould not see the shooters. One shooter yelled, "Allyou jocks stand up, we are going tokill everysingle one ofyou."
Cohn then heard two people yelling things. Then they started walking around shootingpeople at random. Youknew possibly where theywere from the screams.
At one point, Cohn had a gun pointed at him. He just saw thebarrel. Bree screamedandhe pointedthe gun at her. Isaiah was somewhere around table 17, 18 or 19. Cohn relatedhe did not see the shooter becausehis headwasturned.
When Cohnstarted to turn his head around,he sawthe barrel of the weapon. Cohn statedit looked like a 12 gauge shotgun. He also related he hunts and knows what a shotgunlooks like. Also when theywere shooting, you couldhear the casing hit the floor.
Bree told Cohn it was Eric Harris pointing the gun at them. They then saw Isaiah andwalked over to him. Cohn heard about three shots and heard someone yen, "I hatenigger's." They yelled something else but Cohndid not hear it.
At one point, Cohn heard someone ask, "Is he dead, is he dead?" Someone replied, "Yea,he's dead." Cohn also heard someone ask, "Tellme if that nigger isdead, I want to knowifthat nigger is dead." Someonethen replied, "Yea, he's dead."
Cohn could not see because his eyes were towards the book shelves against the wall.After Isaiah, they walked to another area. At one point, they went under a table and said,"Peak a boo." Then theyshot thegirl. ByronKirkland saw this. After this, Cohnwas notsure where they were.
At somepoint, Cohn heardpossibly two or three bombs go offin the library, Thesubjectsleft the library after about twenty minutes. Shortly after the suspects left, everyone tookoff and went out the door. Theywent to a cop car.
When they exited the library, they went out the back door. Cohn stated he was the fifthkid out. Bree was the first out and there wasanothergirl in frontofhim.
Cohn indicated they always met in the library during this time. They had "A" lunchafter4~ period.
This Investigator asked Cohn again about the gun. It bad possibly a short barrel, but hecould only see a small portion of it. These were the only four kids in the library that heknew, were at his table. When asked ifhe knew anyone else in the library, he said JessicaHolliday, who is a senior. She was somewhere in the area oftables 1 • 6.
At one point, Cohn heard who he believed was Eric Harris saying, "This is great" Hethen started laughing: Eric Harris was the one by them. The other subject wassomewhere else. Bree knew it was Eric Harrisbecause she looked straightat his face.
Calm indicated he has talked with one of his friends about the incident, who he identifiedas:
LEVAN,MIKE(303) 979-01549
Cohnrelated Levanwas in the Cafeteria.
On 05-01·99 at about 1455 hrs., this Investigator telephoned Cohn. Cohn related he didnot know the twa people involved in the incident at the school Eric Harris livesin backofhim. He has seen Harris driving his car in the neighborhood beforeandwaves at him.
In regards to DylanKlebold, he hada classwith him at school. weight training.
Reference Bree, Cohn said she laid on his back. She kept wanting to get up and run off.Calm knew one gun was a shot gun and that she would probablyget hit, so he kept herthere.
Whenthe shooter was at their location, Bree was pleading withthe shooter, "Pleasedon'tkill me, don't kill me." Cohn related it seemed like the shooters wanted people to beg fortheir life, then they would shoot them. Afterthis, there was a point when a shot was fired,Cohn thought it was close because he could hear the shellhit the ground.
Cohn's parents were identified as:
COHN,STEVENDOB: 12-04-54
andCOHN, DEBRA.DOB: 09·14-55
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On 04/26/99 at approximately 1510 hours, 10 arrived at PeggyDodd's residence in reference to follow up informaclcn on thepoincs articulated in the previous interview. Peggy began byexp:aining that she k~ew Dylan Klebold because of past problems shehad with hi~ when she was the teacher in video produccion and theCompucer Tech Lab. P~Sgy had previo~$ly told 10 that she knewDylan because he had been hacking into the school computers. Shee~plained nerself more fully by .cacing that Dylan would be doingu~authorized things on the computer, such as Fantasy Baaeball, etc.She stated that it was not only Dylan, it was Eric Harris andancthe= s:udent by the name of Zack Heckler, and possibly anotherstudent whom she ~ouldn't recall his name. The time frame in~~esticr. was Dylan'S junior year, the 1997 n1998 school yea=. !Oasked he~ i~ she had information concerni~g what Dylan and hisf=iends had bee~ hack:~g i~to and she stated that she had heardr~~o=s ~hat they had used her password to hack into the syscem togec locke= c~w~inat~cns, ecc. :0 asked if th~s was ever repor:edt= anycne and she sta:ed that s~e bel~e'les it was, Ln fact,r epczc ed ::'0 at Leaaz school security, if not the police" Shereca:ls Lha~ mosC of :~e studen~s i~ ~~estion were suspended forseve:;:a~ days. Peggy cautioned !O that a lot of the informationconcer~ins that i~cide~t was hea=say on her par~ and she had nofirst hand knowledge, other than Dylan doing things on the computerthat the schoel wo~ldL~';: allow.
Peggy then ~old :0 that it ~ould be easier for her to explainco !O c~e i~for~ation that she has recalled since t~e firsti~te=vie~, it she sca:;:~s at the be9i~~ing. Peggy staced c~a~ shespecifically recalls looking at her watch, nocing the time to be1120 hours, when sr.e walked from the Tech Lab to the library,Peggy showed IO en a ~ap of the 5chool, that she had walked out ofher Tech Lab Office inca the nor~h ma~n hallway, proceedi~g in awe$ter~y d~=ection to the main corridor, which would eventuallylead co the library. to noted on the map that it appears that thiscorr:acr runs in a nc=~h/south direc~ion. Co~t~nuing, Peggy seatedtha~ she had a class of kids in the Tech Lab and she left them to90 to t~e libra=y, Peggy seated that her specific agenda was tospeak wi~h he= supe~:isor, Rich Leng, the superJisor of the TechLab, c~ncer~ing ret~~ev~ns a cornpute= file for a student. Pegsys~a~ed t~at she had w~:ked direccly t~ the library and, upone~~rance i~to t~e library, ooser7ec R~ch Long seated at a ba~k ofcompu~e~s ~ea= ~he w~~dows, which appearsd to be, according to thediagram, i~ t~e fa= west section of t~e library. IO asked Peg~£ ifshe k~e~ a~ycne else i~ the library a~d she stated t~a: the c~o
li=r~r~ans. Carol Weld and Lois Keen, were s~ar.din9 near the maincounter as yeu first walk into the library. 10 also i~quired as towhethe= or noc she observed any kids in the library and she told IOtha: the l:'l:trary 'Alas "packed" She explained chat. it is not:u~us~al fc~ t~e ~ids d~ri~g ~he lunc~ hour to spe~d time i~ the
, s~ating t~a~ the library was very crowded and kids were"all a.r cund ." Continuing, Peggy stated that she walked th:::ough thelizrary a~d sat i~ a chair nexc to Rich Long and had a brief
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conversation with hi~ about retrieving the computer file i~ theTech Lab. ~eggy stated at the same moment she was speaking withRich, Carol Weld approaches Rich, however, she is ~~sure of whereCarol had come from. Peggy stated that Carol'S question to ~ich
was asking him to come look at something as she gestured towardsthe '...rindow, to see if it: was '!real." IO asked about Carol'sdemeanor. peggy reported that Carol was extremely upset at whacapparently she had seen, so she goc up with Rich anc the two ofthem went to the northwest area of the library, and looked out theoffice window, P~S=l reported that the office that they werelocking au: 0: was e~pt7 and sometimes usee for a conferer.c~ room.The office eppeaz-ed to be the "fourth" office in a row, nexc t o t.herear exit door, Peggy reported t.hat was when she saw Dyla~
stand~ng cutside shooting as prev~o~s:y reported, PeS9Y cold IO~hat she cbser7ed Dy:an in a long black coat, shooting his sun andsmi:ing. ?e~gy s~aced that it was mo~e of a ~mirk tha~ a smile,and she aga~~ t~ld IO cha: she chouShc that this was a prankbecause of 4he lOOK on Dylan's face The only th~ng d~ffe~2~t ~at
Peggy repcr~ed to t~is IO, pursua~t to Dylan's descri9cion, ~a_ ~he
fac~ that even thcug~ she agai~ mace t~s sweeping motion, shestated t.~at she reca'::ls now ccee Cyla:: was possibly tlpumping" thesun,
At t~a~ poine, ?eggy skated t~at Rich y~lls t~at this is, infact, rea: and ~hat ever/body should get down. Pesgy state~ t~at
she lost s~ght 0: R:~h at that poi~~, due to the fac~ t~at t~e
whole enti~~ l~=~ar erupted in panic, IO asked Peggy whac shespec:f:ca::y cid ah~ she said that he= reaction waS to do what theydo dur~~g a f~re alarm dr~ll, IO asked her if she could recall thefi=e ala=rn at th~s Do~nc and she sta~ed that she cannot recal~ thealar~ gc~~g of= a~ t~is po~~t. Pes~'l reported chat in her mind,she reca~led t~at she was telling t~e kids to get out, same asthey wc~ld f~= a fi=e d~ill. She showed IO on the diagram thac theno=mal mechod of exi: ~rom the library would be to leave Que t~e
main hall~av and then out the northwest door, or to ex~t the rearexit doo~ of the lL~rarv. She also reoorted that she hadprev~c~s~y observed the-rear libra~1 door propped ope~, btl: she wasunclear as tQ w~y i~ had been propped open. Peggy stated tha~ asshe made her way ch:~ugh the panic in t~e library, yelling at kidstc gee auto, she stated "that's when ! se-.... Dave. 10 asked hex whoshe was $peaki~a about and she stated that she saw Dave Sau~dera
r~~nl~g cl;w~ t~; mai~ hallway that adjoins the libra~/, mc~ion~~gwd t n b z.s hands to "gec back," She z-epor-ced to this Ie" pursuanc toques~~cns, thac she believed Dave was running in a nor~hwest
direct~on t:.~~ugh the hallway, and waving h~$ ha~ds towards thel~brary as :f cell~~s people to stay i~ the library. Peggy s~ated
that it was a: that COlnt, she saw and smelled the smoke in theha:lway, ace began h~aring s~~shcts a~d, what she described asex~losicns IO asked her if she ob5e~ved Pave Saunders to eeinjured at that time and she stated, noe t~at she recalled,Peacv sta:ed t~at s~e went back in~o the library, as the ha~lway
wa;~ful~ of smoke, a~d her firs: t~ought was tha~ ic was kids
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Reported Date 04/20/1999 Time 12,39,,2Status R'!'F
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chrowing smoke bo~~s. Peggy stated that once she was into thelibrary, it was only seconds later that Bxian Anderson ran into thelibrary and collapsed in fror..t. of the main desk as pre'riouslyde$c~ibed to tnLs IO. Peggy stated that Jenny ~atthews was withBrian and anocher you~ger boy, whom she described a9 a freshman,but un~~own to he~, were all huddled in front of the main desk,inquiring abouc srian'$ condition as previously reported. Peggystated that she recalled celling to that: arian had told her, "EricHarris shot me"~ Pessy seated zhac she does not like usingprofa~ity, but she clari:ied for IO by stating what Brian Andersonac:u.a2.1y said to her ',",as, "Er:'c Harz:is fucking shot me n P~g9Y
the~ again described hersel~ looking at the wound as prev~ously
descrihed in the :i~$C supplemental repor~. Peggy repor~ed thac asshe is exa!!1.:ning 9rian's '....cund , that's when tbe Hbullets sca:'ted tofly." !?eg':;Y reca::'led looking towa:=ds the phone that:. was on a desk~ns~ce the library and ocserved a teacher k~own to he= as Pa~ty
Neilso~, on t~e tele:ccne. She desc~~ced ~att7 as beiag O~ t~e
phone ~nder~ea~h a desk i~ c~e k~ee cubby ro asked Pes~z what sheis hear:ng at :h~s poi~t and she skaced tha~ all she's hea~i~q isexplosi~ns, si=e~s a~d gu~shcts, Peggy also told IO chat she iasneve= heard gu~shCts before and she desc=ibed them as popsoccur=i~s outside i~ the hallway. P~ggy stated that at that paint.she, Brian .~derson, Jer-~ifer ~~tthews, and the unide~tifiec boy,crawled on the~= ha~ds ar.d k~ees inco the magazine room, aspreviously desc=i~ed Peggy stated that the last she saw of PattyNe i Laon . Patt:y Nei.Laon was still uace rneach the desk, scill on thetelephone, presumably ~o the 9:1 call. Again, Peggy stated thatshe heard b~llecs in t~e ~al1wa'l a~d she and 3=ian ~~de~$cr.,
Jennifer Mat~hews ahd the u~identi:ied boy, crawled into a separateroom, wh~ch she ide~tified as the magazine room. Peggy desc~~bed
the room for this 10 as havi~g four wa:ls, two doors, one to thenorthwest and one to ~he south section of t~e room, and havingglass from approximately shoulder heigh= around all the walls,?eggy stated that there are magazine racks and boxes of oldmagazines inside t~e room Peggy described the fact that she andall four kids hucidle~ aga~n$t the wa~l in hopes of noe being seenby the gur-man.
Peggy recalled t~at she remembered thinking t~at with all ofchem toge~~er, they made a la~ger target, so she moved away fromthe k~ds and placec nerse:f hidden behind a magaz:ne rack. 10asked Peggy i: t~e deer has a lock en i=, etc,! and peggy seatedthat i~ d~d. Peggy s~aced that the door has the kind of lock thatyou push in and she reca:ls very quietly shut~ing the doer andlocking it. S~e staced t~at prior to he~ moving behind themagazine rack, see spoke w~th Brian briefly and very quieclybecause he was "mcan.i.ng . It 10 asked Peggy what she was hearing int~e li~ra=y at this point a~d she stated thac she hea=d a let ofno as e "s rioc t.Lnc" and "Lt; was like someone let of a stringfL:eworks" She stated that after t hat; , we "heard explosions. 'I
Peggy stated that the noises she heard were comin9 from inside ofthe library. IO asked her if she hea=d any voices Qr talking and
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NARRATIVE
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Ref # 99-12067type ASSTOA
Location ~201 S PI~RCS ST
Reported Date 04/20/1999 Time 12,39:32Status RT?
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she stated uno. rl She s tia t ed that she didn't hear any screamin9 ortalking; other than one phrase. peggy stated that che phrase shehea::d was, !fIt fucki::lg hurt.s, I! IO asked he:::' it: she knew who hadspoken chat phrase and she stated she did not, other than itappeared to be a male voice. Peggy asai~ told IO that she neverrec~lls hearing any screaming, but she did recall a lot of>lstcmpins" and t what appeared to bel running around in the library.Peggy sta.ced that she and Brian distinctly heard stomping feetrunning Out the back deor of the library and that was shortlybefore Brian made the decision to leave the magazine room. IOask~d Peggy where the sounds and noises that she was hear:~9 in thelibrar/ we~e coming from, i.e, elther the rea~ where the officeswere or the main par: of the library. Peggy stated tha~ i:..sounded Li.ke everyc:t:"ng was in the front of the libra.t:"!. II :?eS9Yde$c~ibed the fact t~at she was ve~/ concerned about theurridentified seude~c ~~ the ream with her, due to the face tbat helooked so young and scarec. Peggy s~ated 'hat she at~empted toccmfort him wic~ou~ ~alking, d~e to the :act that they we~e a:raidto make noise. Peggy descr:bed ~he =ac~ cnac t~e three klCS werestill huddled coge~he~t while she scayed a~ c~e end of tne magazinerack, where ahe could scill hear and see t~e kids. Peggy recalledfor IO t~ac jU$~ be=ore t~e kics le=c, i.e., Brian, Je~nifer andthe u~identified scuden~, she heard ~hat she described as a Mloud~
noise. ?e3SY s~ated that it was louder than the others and, again,ema~ated from the maln p~x~ of the library. Peggy estimated thetime :0 be approxlma~ely 40 to 4$ mi~llte9 after the she first heardthe shooting, however, she cannoe be c~rtain. She also cla=i=iedEo= IO that she and 5rian assumed that the footsteps eha: :heyhea=d gc~~g out the backdoor were the gunme~. Pe99Y stacec :~at
she said tha~ because Brian Whispers to her shortly after chat,something CQ the e:::~ct; or: IIpeg, lee's get out of he:::e." Peggysta~ed t~at she did not believe that she could be as fase as tbekids and, therefore, she opted to stay in her hiding place, Peggy=eca:led chat the three kids left oat the pack d~or of che ma9azine~oom and ul~imately, out t~e back door of t~e libra~/. Peggy tbentold IO tha: she still remembe=ed hearing e~~lo$ion$ and booms int~e library aft$r the three kids lef:, Peggy sta~ed that shetbouSh~ that the gunmen had come back in=o the library an~ she madethe decisic~ that she couldn't make the run for ~t, Peggy recalledt~at t~e ~ids wherr t~ey lef~ the magazine room, had left thebackdoor o?en an~ she aga~n! quietly closed the door.
?eg~f then col~ 10 that she tried to gec out of the roomseveral C~~e51 bu: e~e~y tlme she attempted to peek ou~ t~e ~indcw
or thQugh: :~at she could make a run for i~, she would hea~
"noises. " She z eca Ll ed lying f Lat; on her side and pushi:lg herselfclose to the books i~ hopes of making herself smaller. She alsotold 10 tha~ she heard glass breaking and she crawled and lookedout the west wi~dcw of the magazine room and saw a boy waving outthe w~~dcw a£t~= al: the glass had been broken out. She recallsonly that he was wavi~g and she was unsure of who the person was,t~ln~~ng thac he was possibly one of the gunmen. She desc=ibed him
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as wearing a whice t-shirt. Peggy also recalled that at one pointdur:ng this incident, the fire alarm stopped and oella startedringing in a slow ding, ding, ding monotone. Peggy stated that sheagain hid behind the magazine rack, unsure of who the boy wavingwas and the next thing she realized, she looked at her watch and itwas approximately 3:J~. Peggy stated that he watch isapproximately five minutes fast, but a short time after glancing ather watch at 3:32 p.m., she heard voices and footsteps. She againpeeked out the window and it was then that she saw SWAT officerswith helmets on. Pegg¥ then seated that she put her hands up andthe SWAT of:icer told her to walk behind him and look only at theback of his helmet. Peggy stated ~hat afterwards, when she hadheard what had happened in the library, she was glad that she haddone that. In reference to che condition or stats of the librar/as she was leaving it, she stated that she couldn't describe it,ci~e to the fact tha~ she looked only at the back of the SWA7officer's helmec. Peggy was evacuated from the schaol with theSWAT of:icer and placed in an unknown vehicle, which she desc~ibed
as an a~mor~d car vehicle. Peggy stated that no one questioned herand she sat there for a short time before anothe: officer from anunidentified asencYt put her in the back of a patrol car and droveher direct:: to che Jefferson County Sheriff's command bus, whereshe met with ~his:O Thi$ incerview concluded with Peggy Dodd atapproximacely 1625 hours.
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Narrative:
On 5·3·99 I s ke with Peggy Dodd a Teacher at Columbine High School she was interviewed regarding_Ms Dodd told me she is assigned to the
n gy La mpu sr a a e VIdeo lab. She had Eric as a student assistant in thelab in 1997/1998 school year. She told me she thought Eric was a nice guy and enjoyed having him as aassistant until the end of the first semester last year. During this period Eric and Dylen got into trouble forhacking in the computer and may have been able to get the combinations of the student lockers. He wasthen restricted to his use in the computer lab and spent most of his time in the video lab. After this occurredshe checked into the space Eric and Dylan had available to them and never found they used theirauthorized 5 megs of space which all stUdent have available to them. She said they may have thought shehad tumed them in for their hacking but it was not her. After they got into trOUble with the computers shesaid Eric began wearing black. When he came to school the beginning of this year 1998/1999 she thoughthe had changed he was quiet and did not speak with her. He kept to himself and was alone more. I askedher if there was any reason Eric did not like her and she said that she never had a confrontation with himand could not think why he would not like her. She told me Eric and Dylan got into trouble through the mainoffice and she believed a student tumed them in. Her name was never brought up in the disciplinary action.
Ms. wodd has aiso been interviewed under lead1599 Inv. Faith Stevens Arvada Police.
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STATEMENT
Case No, _
Name U.ast. first, Middle ;rtmalj
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! have read thlt foregoing stat,m6nt #f'Jd fhl! f.CfS ccnt,ifJ!!d thetein iJle true to the best of my knowledge and belief. Ido nct maintain that it contains all of the facts 01' details af the incident." bvt cnly tho$1I facts abcut which I iUfWf belH"J4:Jked.
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STATEMENT
Ca.e No, _
Nam~ l LaM. First. Middle !f1ltJall l~kins: 5tatemant i$;'I~ !;.... \ I/'....ei~~-y 13. C Officer tfJ WltmtA a Person advised
h. aee Street Address CitY !county Ism. jZip Codei
Residence Phone 1~si"IlS5 Phon& ISOCi~ SaCl..l.rityNQ. iOate of einh i Serial No.
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Concerning an lnodant OCCUlfing at: j teeaaen where statemant taklJ":
Summary of Statement:
f have read the fategoing .statemf:mt and the facts contained therein are true to the best of my knowledge and belief. Ido not malnrai.n mer it cornsin» al/ of the facts Of details of the tncident, but ontv those facts about which! have beenasked.
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JEFFERSON COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE
SUPPLEMENTAL REPORT
Defendant. Harris/Klibold
Date: 042399
Deputy D.A-.:
Docket Number:
Case Number:
Investigator.
99-70625
Greg Neal
On April 21, 1999, R/I called and spoke with Lindsay Elmore a
student of Columbine High School. On April 20, 1999, Lindsay Elmore
was interviewed by a Detective Zimmer of the Denver Police
Department. In Lindsay's written report she made comment that
believe that there were three gunmen.
R/I asked Lindsay if it would be alright if I stopped by to discuss
her written statement. Lindsay said it would be fine.
At approximately 2: 50 p.m. 1'</1 met with Lindsay at her residence,
5379 S. Garrison Court, Littleton, Colorado.
We went over the contents of her written statement whi'ch she advised
was accurate.
Lindsay advised that she was in the library on her Lunch hour and
sat next to a Rebecca that is in her Spanish class. Lindsay stated
that she heard a loud noise outside but thought it was construction
of some sort.
A few seconds later a frantic woman carne into the library. The
elderly woman was screaming "help, help there are boys outside with
guns, someone has been shot". The elderly woman and a Mr. Long
yelled for everyone to get on the floor under the tables. Lindsay
stated that she immediately got on the floor underneath a table.
The suspects eventually came into the library. Lindsay advised that
she heard one of the suspects say "so are you a jock, jockhoy".
Lindsay advised that they then shot the boy. Lindsay stated that she
heard something about being black and then shot anct.her student.
Lindsay stated that they oontinued to shot people.
Lindsay stated t:hat she heard one of the euspeots ask a girl "do you
believe in God? The girl replied "yes'. The suspect then said "why
do you believe in God"?
Lindsay stated that the girl said something about because of her
parents. The suspect or suspects then shot the girl.
Lindsay stated that she was in the middle of the rOam and was facing
north. They came towards the middle of the room from behind her.
Lindsay stated that one cf the suspects yelled about needing new
clips. Another suspect said he always wanted to kill someone with a
knife.
Lindsay stated that a boy at the table in front of her apparently
moved and was shot at least five times. One of the suspects said "so
he tried to jump ya"
The suspects walked back towards the front of the library knocked
over a computer then left.
Lindsay stated that prior to shooting the boy next to her, one of
the suspects said"hey John Savage, what are you doing here, you had
better get out were going to blow the library up". Lindsay stated
that the boy got up and left.
R/1 asked Lindsay Elmore if she ever saw the suspects. Lindsay
replied "no I did.."l't want to move and was only able to see shadows".
R/1 asked why in her written statement did she make comment "I
believe there were :3 gunmen". Lindsay' stated because of the amount
of shots fired "I thought there had to be more than 2 shooters".
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Lindsay Elmore is fairly oertain that John Savage carne into thelibrary shortly after her and before the shooting started.
Lindsay provided R/I with a copy of a journal that she drafted afterthe shooting.
No further.
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FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION
Date of transcription 5/U/99
Lindsay Brooke Elmore, date of birth March 12, 1982,5379 South Garrison Court, Littleton, Colorado 80123, telephonenumber (303) 904-9904, was interviewed at her residence. Afterbeing advised of the identity of the interviewing Agent and thenature of the interview, Elmore furnished the followinginformation:
Elmore is a Junior at Columbine High School. Her firstclass of the day is Statistics. This class is during firstperiod which runs from 7:30 a.m. to 8:20 a.m. On April 20, 1999,she had a substitute teacher in her Statistics class. Thestudents are given a five-minute passing period and her nextclass starts at 8:25 a.m. and ends at 9:20 a.m. This class isEnglish taught by Mr. Webb. During second period, an extra fiveminutes is added to the class time for announcements. Theannouncements are broadcast over the television system. Mr. Webbhas a "laid back" class and the students typically do not payattention to the announcements. Elmore did not pay attention tothe announcements made the morning of April 20, 1999. Duringthird period she has Spanish III taught by Mrs. Birch-Sterling.This class runs from 9:25 a.m. to 10:15 a.m. During fourthperiod she has Algebra II with Miss Moore. Fourth period runsfrom 10:20 a.m. to 11:10 a.m. During fifth period, Elmore haswhat is known as "~' lunch. After her Algebra class she willt}~ically go to her locker and switch out her books. She thengoes to the Library and normally would meet Tiffany Burk and siton the west side of the Library.
On April 20, 1999, Elmore entered the Library atapproximately 11,15 a.m. and sat down at table ~12 with RebeccaParker. Attachment A is a diagram of the Columbine High SchoolLibrary. Elmore marked on the diagram the location that she andParker sat at the table. Elmore remembers talking briefly withanother student named Andrew, last name unknown. He's a memberof the Key Club with Elmore and came over to her table to talkwith her. After he left she talked with Parker for a few minutesand then heard noises. The noises came from outside of theschool building and sounded like hammering. Shortly afterhearing the noises cutside, a female teacher ran into the Libraryvery frantic. The teacher asked where the phone was and statedsomething to the effect of "there's a boy with a gun shooting
Invcsllgiltlon on 4/30/99
by SA John M. Elvig/ms Denver Control !DN1633
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people," That teacher and Mr, Long told everyone in the Libraryto get down. That teacher then got on the phone behind alibrarian's counter and was crouched down. Elmore could hear heron the telephone talking. Elmore laid down underneath table #12on the west side of the table and Parker laid down underneath thetable on the east side. Elmore laid down with her head on thenorth side of the table and her feet sticking out the backside(south) of the table. She was facing north. She could no longersee the front of the Library and could just see a few tablesaround her.
Elmore than heard explosions and gunfire, Theexplosions were shaking the floor and she thought the explosionswere occurring belDw her in the cafeteria. She could also hearscreaming that appeared to her to be below the Libra~y. Theexplosions caused books to fall within the Library and plaster tofall from the ceiling, Elmore had no concept of how long sheheard the explosions and gunfire but believes it to beapproximately two to three minutes, At this point she waspraying so she wasn't paying a whole lot of attention, She didhear the fire alarm going off and stated it was pretty loud.Elmore could see smoke coming into the Library that was engulfingthe front section,
Shortly after hearing the explosions and gunfire shethought was in the cafeteria, gunmen entered the Library. Herhead was down but she heard them start yelling, She heard themyell something like "all the jocks get up." One of them alsostated, "Are you a jock, jock boy?" This was on the west side ofthe Library near table #~8. Elmore then began hearing a lot ofshooting and possibly explosions from the west side of theLibrary, There was lots of noise and she could hear windowsbreaking and noise like bullets ricocheting off the beams of thewindows, She then heard one of the individuals yelling atsomeone using the word "nigger." She then heard gunfire afterthe statement. Elmore had her head down but did look up onCewhile she heard the shooting on the west side of the Library.She caught a glance of a person against the back light of thewindows near table #18. Because of the backlighting the personwas fuzzy, but she remembers the person was wearing black or darkclothes, was very tall and had a big head, The gunmen wereyelling and laughing and there was so much movement that Elmorethought there was more than two people. The voices she heard
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were of men. The gunfire on the west sioe of the Library stoppedafter the "nigger" comment followed by immediate gunshots.
After the ~~nfire on the west side of the Library,there was a few minutes of quiet and then the shooting started onthe east side of the Library. Near table #3, Elmore heard one ofthe gunmen ask someone "do you believe in God,". Elmore heardwhimpering and crying and a girl attempting to get words out.She did hear a faint yes. She then heard one of the gunmen asksomething to the effect of why do you believe in God or why. Sheheard a response something to the effect of "because of myparents." She then heard gunfire. She doesn't recall how muchgunfire she heard coming from the east side of the Library.After the gunfire on the east side slowed she heard one of thegunmen state something to the effect of needing more clips. Bothgunmen were using profanity throughout the Library. She thenheard one of the gunmen somewhere behind her shaking the miniblinds of the windows. She heard a clanking sound like someonewas moving the blinds.
The gunmen then worked their way up through the middlesection of the Library. Elmore heard some gunfire behind her butcould give no specifics to the location or the number ofgunshots. After the gunfire behind her, one of the gunmen walkedbetween table ~13 and the bookshelves. Elmore heard the gunmansay something to the effect of "hey John Savage, what're you doinghere?" He then told Savage to get out and that they were goingto blow up the Library. Savage responded okay, with a stutter.Elmore knows Savage and knows him to stutter. Elmore saw Savagerun along the bookshelves and move toward the front entrance ofthe Library. There was a blonde boy under table #9. Elmorewasn't really looking but heard shots near table If 9. After thegunshots, one the gunmen stated something to the effect ot "washe trying to jump out at you?" and the other one responded,"yeah." When the gunmen were near table 1t9, she heard one ofthem also say something to the effect of always wanting to killsomeone with a knife.
After hearing gunfire near table #9, Elmore doesn'tremember hearing any more gunfire within the Library. Elmore hadher head down most of the time and could give no further detailto the movements and actions of the gunmen. Elmore had noconcept of time during the shooting within the Library and could
not give an estimate of the total time the gunmen were in theLibrary.
The Library was silent for a few minutes and Elmorebegan to hear gunfire which seemed to be moving away from theLibrary. At that point she looked up and saw the blonde boyunder table #9 in a pool of blood. She then heard someone at thefront of the Library yell "let's get out." Elmore got Up, ransouth going around the bookShelves and moved along the west wallof the Library. She ran along the windows on the west side tothe backdoor of the Library. Elmore only saw the back of theperson in front of her and was concentrating only on exiting theLibrary. She did not see any injured students in the Libraryduring her exit.
Elmore ran out the backdoor of the Library, ran up thehill and got behind a police car. There were approximately 20 to25 students behind the police car. Six to eight of thosestudents were injured. Elmore recalls seeing Jenna, last nameunknown, behind the police car. Jenna is in Key Club and wasinjured in the front of her stomach. Lindsay also saw MarkKintgen. Elmore knew Kintgen'e twin brother.
POlice cars began shuttling the injured and otherstudents away from the school area. Elmore was dropped off by apolice officer behind and below the Columbine track. Elmorecould see news media standing on top of the big hill. Some ofthe news media came down and let the students use their cellularphones. Elmere was able to call her mother. She then walked tothe triage area in the local neighborhood. She was there forapproximately an hour. At the triage area, Elmore continued totalk to Mark Kintgen. Kintgen was hurt on his neck and she askedhim if he was okay. The paramedics later took him away. At thetriage area, Elmore also was looking for her brother. Elmore wasable to get a ride to the Leawood Elementary School. At theschool, she met her youth minister from Lakewood Church ofChrist. The youth minister then gave her a ride home.
Elmore's backpack is a navy blue Jansport with aleather bottom. There is a black wallet, checkbook and TI83calculator in the front pocket. Her wallet contained herdriver's license, an ATM card and approximately $150 worth ofbabysitting checks. The backpack also contained school books and
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notebooks, Elmore could not recall her locker number hut statedit contained her books, notebooks and sunglasses, She also had aSpanish/English dictionary and her track bag in the locker,
After Elmore got home she watched newscasts of theevents at Columbine High School. Elmore's parents had gone tothe Columbine Public Library to help their friends find theirkids, At the Library, they talked with a police officer and toldthem of Elmore's presence in the school Library. The policeofficer requested an interview with Elmore, Elmore then went tothe Columbine Public Library and was interviewed by a detective.
Elmore has been interviewed by the news media,including a Channel 7 reporter while walking to the triage area,Elmore stated this was a very brief interview, On April 29,1999, she did appear on Channel 7 in a special program called"Kids in crisis', She has appeared on the three major channelsin Bakersfield, California, These channels are Channel 17,Channel 23 (KERQ), and Channel 29, She also had an interviewthat appeared in the Bakersfield newspaper, the BakersfieldCalifornian, Blmore's family moved from Bakersfield to Coloradorecently.
Elmore's parents are Larry and Patti Elmore,
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INVESTIGATION,
On 04-23-99, at about 1:35p.rn. Investigations Sgt. ChrisTomfurddirectedme to respond to the Light Of The World Catholic
Church. 10306 West BowlesAvenue, Littleton. referencean urgent call that was received by JCSO Dispatch,According to Sgt.
Tomford, a counselor at Light Of The World had met with a 15or 16year old male who needed to be interviewed as soon as
possible. Sgt. Tornford provided me with a lead sheet for this interview.
At about 1:55 p.rn.c l arrived at Light Of The World Catholic Church and subsequentlycontacted Susan Kirkpatrick Merritt.
Susan identified herself as a self employedsocial workerwho had been volunteering her services by counseling students there
at the church, Susan told me that she had been counselingColumbine HighSchool studentAndrewThomas Fair, dob!09·05-82,
a black male who lives at 5196 South Drew Court, Littleton, 80123. home phone (303J 973·2977, and that based upon
information she received from Andrew, she felt that a formal interview with Andrew was necessary
At about 2,03 p.m., I met with Andrew Fair in a private office at the church, Andrew told me that he had been briefly
interviewed by someone from CBI while at the triage uniton the day of the shooting, Andrew told me that he had been inside
the library during the shooting that occurred on 4·20-99, andprovided the followingaccount.
Andrew told me that he was inside thelibrary typing a report, Andrew said that at about 12:05 to 12:10 a.m, he and others
inside the library heard "between five and six" noises that he describedas "claps." Andrewsaid that he thought it sounded like
someone "harnmenng on nails:' and that this noise was coming fromoutside, 00: the west side of the building. Andrew said
that upon hearing these noises, everyonecontinued to be in"high spirits" and that someone even made a joke about the noises
Andrew said that he and others assumedthat the noises were firecrackers, the result of a senior prank, Andrewsaid that within
moments after hearing the noises. a female teacher entered the library and said, "There's a man with a gun! Get away. get
down!" Andrew said that he thinks this teacherwas Patricia Nielson, and described her as blonde and "very frantic." Andrew
Said that afterannouncing this. the teacher thenyelled,"Where's MissKeating. wbere"s Miss Keating?" Andrew said that upon
hearing the reacher say this, some of the students around him took her seriouslyand got under tables. Andrew said that most,
however, reacted by standing up and"looking at eachother:' still notsure of what to make of what she said. Andrew said rh!1t
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WITNESSES:
STEVE GREENWOOD, DOBII1-30·81
6356 West Frost Drive
Littleton, Colorado 80128
(303) 979-0842
INVESTIGATION:
On 06-03·99, at about 1330 hours, 1met with Steve Greenwood at his residence. Greenwood is a junior at Columbine High
School and was present in the libraryduring the shooting which occurred on 4-20-99, I asked Greenwood to describe to me
'us observations and actions on that day. This report is connected to control #DN3226.
Greenwood stated that his father dropped him off at schoolsomenme between0720 and 0725 hours. His father droppedhim
off in the teacher's parking101. He entered the main entrance.went to his locker, then to his first period class, which is Wind
Symphony with Mr Biscup. Second period Greenwood has off. He walked to a friend's house, which is on the northwest
comer ofWest PolkAvenue and South PierceStreet. Hestatesthat he takes a privatecourseat that residenceduring his second
period, I asked him ifhe made anyobservationsof anythingout ofthe ordinary. He statedeverythingappeared to be normal.
I asked him if he saw suspects Eric Harria or Dylan Klebold during the second period. He stated he did not. Greenwood
returned to school just before his third period math class with Ms. Moore. His fourth period class was language arts with Ms.
Jankowski Greenwood has first lunch or '"A" lunch. It begins about I 11.5 hours.
Greenwood decided to go to the library for his lunch. He stated he normally goes in there to read or study and sometimes he
meets friends That day he went into the library and was looking for his friend John Savage. He could not findhim so he Went
overand sat on the soft chair which backsagainst the west windows. Greenwoodwas facingeast. Greenwoodsat on the chair
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whichwas to the south. A female student sat in the other 'oft chair which was just to the north.
l askedGreenwoodwhat his prior contacts had beenwiththe suspects or membersof the "TrenchCoat Mafia." Hestated he
had seenbothKleboidand Harris mthehallways, butdid notknow theirnames. He had heardof the"TrenchCoatMafia"and
had seen them on campus. He slatedhe could recognize the people who were part of it, bUI wouldnot knowtheir names.
WhileGreenwood was silting in thesoft chairin the library heheardwhathe describedas "nail guns"offlo his left. Hestated
he did not look out the west window. I asked him how many sounds he heard that he associated with a nail gun. He said
perhapsfive to eigsr. Hesaid it dieddownandhe dismissed thematter. Thena female teacher, lateridentified as Ms.Nielsen
carne runninginto the library,yellingfor the kidsto getunder the 'abies. Hesaid he stood up to lookaround, butdidn't notice
anything out of the ordinary. He did he look out 'he window. ThenGreenwood heardwhathe thought to be gunshots getting
closer to the library area comingfromthe east, Greenwood was facing east.Greenwood took the mattermare seriously and
gotundertablemarked#20 on the mapthat I showedhim. Greenwood laiddownonhis stomach underneath table20. His legs
were stickingout to the west and his head was pointing to the east. Underneath the table with him was Stephanie Salmon.
Salmon was to the north of Greenwood facing south,
Greenwood stated that one to two minutes later he heard shootingcoming from within the library. He said he could tell it was
inside the librarybecause the shooting was definitely within the sameroom. He then heardsomeshoutingand a male voice
saying, "All the jocks stand up." Hecould not seethe suspects at this time, but he did hear a malevoice. Greenwood stated
nobody went to stand up. Then he heard a male voice yelling, "We'll get the guys with the white hats." Greenwood was
wearing a whitehat and he took it off.
Greenwood statedthere was a lotof shootingthathappened .~erthat. Occasionally hehearda loudboomthatshookthe floor.
Heslatedhe is not familiar with guns. He did believe thatone of the guns was a shotgunbecausehe could hearsingle shots
beingfired, Alone pointGreenwood glancedup from where hewasunder table #20. Hesawtwosuspects The twosuspects
were standing between the south computertable to the west, and the table marked #17on the map. J asked Greenwood to
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describe the two suspects.
The first suspect he later statedhe could identifyas EricHarrisbecauseof seeing Harris' picture On the t.v. newsthaievening.
He stated Harris was wearing a white undershirt and. he believed, camouflagepants and boots. He was a while male, not
wearing a mask and carrying a shotgun. He statedhe could not tellwhether il was a single or double barrel shotgunbecause
he was too far away. He staled alone point when he saw Harris, Harris had a bloody nose.
Suspectnumber two, Greenwooddescribed as a whitemale, taller than the first suspect (Harris). This tall male was wearing
a black duster, He staled he could recognize himas a person he had seen in the hallways at school previously The suspect
was not weanng a mask. and had shoulder lengthhair,blond or brown incolor. Greenwood later identifiedthis individual as
Dylan Klebold based on televisionnews pictures. Greenwood did not describe a weaponassociated with Dylan Klcbcid.
Greenwood told me he could recall certain events, but he could not give them in specific order. I asked him to recall those
eventshe remembersseeing andhearing, Greenwood saidthat after seeingHarris by the computer tables. he saw him in the
area just north of tables 19 near the west windows.
Greenwood stated that at one point he saw Harrisshoota girl "in the head." He stated that the girl was curled up underneath
the south computer table. Herbackwas against the westwoodcubical divider and she was facing east. He stated that the girl
hadblond hair, The followingday,after theshooting, Greenwood lookedat thepicture. publishedin the paperofrhe deceased
students, He stated the girl that he saw beingshotby Harriswas not on the deceased list. Greenwood stated that once he saw
Harris shoot this girl, it took just a moment before blood beganto showon the girl. He stated she slumpedover towardsthe
east. From Greenwood's descriptionof the girl. the injury and the location. I believehe was describing seeing Hams shoot
Kasey Ruesegger in the right shoulder.
Greenwood went on to giveme a furtherdescription of the shootingof Kasey Ruesegger, He staledthat he observedHarris
walk from betweenthe two computertables, movingtowards the west Harris turnedsouth and carnearound the corner of the
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Holliday said that she was in the library with possibly fifty other
kids when she heard loud noise's. Her impression was construction
was going on at the school. Suddenly a woman came into the library
screaming for everyone to get on the floor and under the tables.
Holliday thought it was cruel joke untill the woman reiterated.
At that point Holliday and the other kids went under the table she
was sitting at and as she was going under she saw "Dylan come in the
door with a big gun and Eric right behind him". Holliday said that
the shooting began and seemed like it went on forever. She thought
that it was Dylan that said,"I gotta reload". One of the two men
then set his long gun on the table and said that he's never cut
nobody and wanted to. He said it would be fun to slice somebody.
Holiday said that she was wearing shorts and her legs were sticking
out from under the table and was afraid that he was goin~ to start
cutting her legs. Then she heard what she thought was Dylan say,
llhere lS a. nigger ll ~ Eric said, "shoot him", then there was more gun
fire. Eric then asked someone (a female, if they believed in God.
The female answered in the affirmative and Holliday thought that
that person was shot. As the two men were walking around the room
laughing and pointing their guns at different kids, Eric asked a
male what his name Was. The male said that his name was John
Savage. Eric said, 'we like you, were going to let you live".
Holliday said that while all of this was going on, she oould hear
bombs going off somewhere else in the building. I questioned her
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point and she was adamant that she could hear
off while the two men were in the library. Holliday
the two men left the room, anyone that could, ran
Holliday said that she knows both Dylan and Eric from school and
describes them as nice guys sort of quiet guys. She didn't think
that she has seen Eric this school year. Dylan is in her Government
Economics class and they sometimes speak. A girl that sits in front
of Dylan by the name Val speaks to Dylan often. Holliday then said
that the girl that was asked in the library wheather or not she
believed in God, was Val. Val is now known as Valerie Schnurr who
was taken to Sweedish Medical Center and as of this report is still
alive. Holliday also said that Eric had been to her house for
dinner along with some other friends approximately two years ago.
Holliday wanted to say that she thought all of the talk she has
heard about these two guys wanting to kill jocks because jocks made
fun of them was wrong. She said that they carne to kill anybody they
felt like killing and they had fun doing it because they laughed the
whole time.
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JeSD CR 99-1625
On 04/,0/99, Det. Boatright (IO) was assigned lead #DN1292,requesting he contact and interview Jessica Holliday. Within thenarrative of the lead. 10 was informed Jessica Holliday was in thelibrary when the incidenc occurred and had observed fellow studentswho were shot. In addition, Jessica Holliday also reportedly sawthe suspects during ehe incident occurring in the library.
On the same date at approximately 1145 hours, IO responded to7612 S. Newland Street, Littleton, Colorado, 80128, 003-972-94$3)and met with Jessica Holliday! age lSI DOB: 04/12151. JessicaHolliday is a senior at Columbine High School. Also present forthe interview was Jessica Holliday's mother, identified as KathyHolliday.
Upon contact with Jessica Holliday, :0 requested she providean account of her activities on 04/20/99, beginning at the time shearrived as school, Jessica Holliday told IO she usually receivesa ride to school from Mary Decant (spelling provided by JessicaHolliday) . According to Jessica HollidaYf Mary Decant is a seniorat Columbine High School and parks her vehicle in the southwestsenio~ lot. Jessica Holliday estimated she arrived at school atapproximately 0720 hours and recalled using the southwest doorewhen entering the school, Jessica Holliday indicated she then wentto her first period class, which sha identified as "band. 1t JessicaHolliday stated her f:rs~ period class begins at approximately 0725hours and concludes at approximately 0820 hours. Jessica Hollidayidentified her band instructor as "Nr . Biscup." According toJessica Holliday, che band room is located on the north side of thebuilding,
Jessica Holliday reported she then attended her second periodclass which $tar~ed at approximately 0825 hours and concluded atapprOXimately 0920 hours. Jessica Holliday identified her secondperiod class as «physics" which was taught by Mr. nCram. II JessicaHolliday stated physics class is located in the math area on theeast side of the building.
Jessica Holliday reported she then attended he~ third periodclass which started at apprOXimately 0920 hours and concluded atapprQxi~ately 1015 hours Jessica Holliday identified her thirdperiod class as H family and relationships. It which is taus~t by "Ms.Zerr, " Jessica Holliday stated her family and relationships classis located on the main level of the school. north of th~ 'fmathrooms. 1l
In respect to her fourth period class, Jessica Holliday statedit began at approximately 1020 hours and concludes at 1110 hours.Jessica Holliday identified her fourth period class as "studentaseistant Jessica Holliday indicated she is the studentas s Ls t an t for "M:, Cram W .res s i.ce Holliday stated when bee- fourth
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period class began, she recalled speaking with "Mr, Cramfl'forapproximacely ten minutes (miscellaneous conversation), after whichit was determined he did not specifically have any duties sheneeded to complete at that time. Jessica Holliday pointed out herbest friend, Lauren Townsend, usually met her at lIMr. C:-am'slfclass. adding the forenamed had "fourth bouz- free,'! IO cla~ified
with Jessica Holliday that en this date, Lauren Townsend had mether at "Mr. Cram' e'l class ( after which both of them decided to goto the library, According to Jessica. Kolliday, "Mr. Cram." did not.always have duties she needed to complete and on those occasions,would normally go to the library with Lauren Townsend to study,Jessica Holliday clarified she and Lauren Townsend had decided togo to the library and study on the date of this incident.
IO confirmed with Jessica Holliday that she walked directly tothe library (accompanied by Lauren Townsend), arriving at thatlocation somet~rne around 1030 hours. When asked to describe anyproperty she took into the l~brary, Jessica Holliday stated she wascarrying a Dlue shirt, a bottle of lotion, and a ~hick whiteIlnctebook with spirals," Jessica Holliday confirmed she was not.carrying a backpack, but did remember bringing her wallet whichcontained her I.D. Jessica Holliday told IO she waS wearing a blueand grey striped shirt with blue overalls (shortsl, !n respect toLauren ~ownsend (deceased)! Jessica Holliday recalled the forenamedwas carrying her backpack which she described as being uyellow andblack, II
10 subsequently supplied Jessica Holliday with a diagram ofthe library ~~d requested she identify the location where she andLauren Townsend sat during fourth hour. Jessica aolliday statedshe, along with Lauren Townsend, placed their belongings on table#2, however, the forenamed pointed out she did nOt stay at chatlocation the entire class period. According to Jessica Holliday,when she and Lauren Townsend initially arrived in the library!Lauren Townsend positioned herself on the west side of the table.facing east" Jessica Holliday indicated Lauren Townsend remainedat cable #2 far the entire class period {studyingl t while she{Jessica r;:olliday; went "back and forth" from table #2 co table#15, When asked to elaborate, Jessica Holliday stated there wasanother class using the library during fourth period. JessicaHolliday stated the class was utilizing the computer Internetregarding either "government or history," aubj ect s they were:studying J~ssica Holliday stated one of the students in theaforementioned class was "Amanda II (last name not obtained) ,Jessica Holliday stated "Amanda" was located back at table #15,thus, she had walked back and forth between table #2 and table #'5,associating with both Lauren Townsend and 'lAmanda." Jessica.Holliday estimated she spent at least "a half hour" with "Amanda f
'
at table #15 during the fo~r~h period class,
Jessica Holliday stated when the fourth period bell rang atapproximately 1110 hours, she t.b.en walked "Amanda" to math class.
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Jessica Holliday indicated the math room she walked to was locatedon the east end of the building. According to Jessica Holliday,it was her understanding Lauren Townsend remained in the librar£ attable #2 during her absence.
;..ccording co Jessica. Holliday, after walking "Amanda I! to hermath class, she walked directly back to the library. JessicaHolliday seated she believed she returned Co the library prior tothe stare of fifth period. Jessica golliday stated she believedshe was in the library when she heard the bell ring for fifthperiod (approximately 1115 hoursl. IO cla4ified with JessicaHolliday, bach she and Lauren Townsend had "A lunch. I' JessicaHolliday stated almost "every day" she would meet the same group ofstudents in the library during "A lunch." when asked co identifythose students! Jessica Holliday provided the following names. Inaddition to herselt and Lau~en Townsend, also pre~ent would beDiwata Perez, Jeanna Park, Val SChnU4~ and Lisa Kreutz. JessicaHolliday was then asked <0 sketch table #~ to the side of thediagram and identified the location of each student named above.Jessica Holliday complied with IO's request. IQ would note,Jessica Holliday identified the individuals sitting at the table ina clockwise direction as herself, Lisa Kreutz, Jeanna Park (all onthe we$~ $ide}, while Diwata Perez, Val Schnurr and Lauren Townsendwere seated to the east side of the table. Jessica Holliday thenindicated it was pQssible Val Schnurr was seated at a chair whichis located to the west of cable #2, near a window, JessicaHalliday could not he more specific concerning that point.
When asked if she recalled any additional students being inthe library When she returned (prior to the start of fifth hou~l ,Jessica Holliday responded in the affirmative. Jessica Hollidaystated she recalled seeing approximately 40 to 50 people in thellbrary and noted most of them were "regulal;"s. II Jessica Hollidays~ated she did not know everyone's names, but had remembered seeingmany of those same people in the library on previous datee.Jessica Holliday then stated she specifically remembered seeingAdam FO$S and Byron Kirkland when she returned to the library.Jessica Holliday then pointed out she remembered joking with AdamFoss, but thought it was possible he left the library priox to theincident. In respect to Byron Kirkland, Jessica Holliday statedshe knew he was in the library, but could not remember where he wasseated
Jessica Holliday stated she knew Amber Huntington was in thelibrary, due to the fac~, the forena~ed is a library assistant.Jessica Holliday stated at the ti~e the bell rang for the start offifch houz , she remembered seeing Amber Huntington llpu'Cting awaybooks on the bookshelf~ to the west of table ~2. Jessica Hollidaytold IO, after seeing Amber Hunti~gton, she ~hen walked over tothat location and began to socialize with the forenamed.
Jessica Holliday stated shortly after she had begun speaking
with Amber Hunt ingt.on , she began to hear "nod.ae s II JessicaHolliday stated when she first heard the noises, she thought tneywere some: kind of II construction or hammering noises. 1'1 JessicaHolliday stated she believed those noises were coming from outsidethe library. Jessica HolliQay stated she remembered both she andAmber Huntington commenting on the noises at that point but neitherexpressed concern.
Jessica Kolliday stated she then followed Amber Huntington toa_second row of bookshelves located further souch in the library(east side), Jessica Holliday stated it was at that point, sheobserved a teacher (unknown by name) ente~ the libra~/ via the eastentrance and begin screa~ng ~There's a man with a gun, everyone\lnder ebe table." When aaked to describe the t.eache.r, JessicaHolliday stated she could not recall what the teacher was wearing,but belieyed she had light colored, shoulder length, llcurly" hair,
Jessica Holliday stated after hearing the teacher make theabove statement, she thoughc it was possible the situation was att senior prank. II Jessica Holliday stated as she continued to watchthe teacher, the aforementioned again stat.ed, UEveryone under thetable." Jessica Holliday recalled! by this time, t.he teacher hadsomehow moved behind the main counter in the library. JessicaHolliday clarified the teache~ sounded ~ery frightened when makingthe above statements. Jessica Holliday reported it was also aroundthe same time frame she heard the first tlloud noises," adding theaforement.ioned noises "shook the floor./l According to JessicaHolliday, by this point, everyone had begun to get underneath thetables in the library.
Jessica Holliday stated she next recalled Amber Huntingtongrabbing her by the arm and pulle~ her towards. what's beenidentified as cable #13. According to Jessica Holliday, both sheand Amber Runtington then positioned themselves underneath thetable, Jessica Holliday recalled Amber Huntington was positionedto the west, while she was located to the east. Jessica Hollidaystated it was then she realized that another student was alsopresent whom she i~entified as Athena Lagos. Jessica HOllidaystaced Athena Lagos was positioned furthest east underneath thetable. Jessica Holliday stated she recalled facing a sQ~thwe5terly
direction and thought Amber Hunting~on would have been facing asimilar direction. Jessica Holliday stated she specificallyremembe4ed one of her legs sticking out from underneath the table{$outh side]. Jessica Rolliday was unable to be more specificconcerning positioning under the table.
Jessica Holliday next informed IO that just as she w~s
positioning herself under the table, she observed Dylan Rlebolden:er the librarj According to Jessica Holliday, she knew OylanK:ebald, as she had had a class with him "last semester, to
ide::'::-ified as <lgovernment:;. econ." Jessica Holliday repor'ted Oylan
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Klebold sat directly in front of her during that class: Accordingto Jessica Halliday, she was friendly wlth Dylan Klebold, but didnot socialize with him ou~side of schoal. ~gain. IO confirmedwith Jessica Holliday she was certain she observed Dylan Kleboldenter cha library just prior tv positioning herself under thetable. NOTE: Jessica Holliday added, Robin ~~der50n also sharedthe same: "-government eeon" cla.ss referred to above.
Jessica Holliday went on to indicate even though she did notinitially see Bric Harris enter the library, she was aware of hispresence later. Prior to pursuing that issue further, 10 askedJessica Holliday to describe Dylan Klebold when she observed himenter the library. Jessica Holliday initially clarified she firstsaw Oylan Klebold as he was walking past the front reference deskarea (movi~g westbound). Jessica Holliday stated Dylan Klebold waswearing a black hat "back'darcs,1) a llblack trench coac'l w::Ltn llblackboots. ,j Jessica Holliday staced Dylan Klebold was holding what shebelieved was a "long gun" in h-lS left hand as he proceeded in themanr.~r described above, Jessica Holliday was unable co furtherdescribe the weapon seen in p05ses$i~n of Dylan Klebold.
Jessica Holliday indicated, due to the fact she had positionedherself underneath a table, she CQuld no longer see Dylan Klebold.It was at that poine, Jessica Holliday explained she knew EricHarris was in the library because she heard the forenamed speakingto Dylan Klebold. When asked if she knew Eric Sarris, JessicaHolliday responded in the affirmative. Jessica Holliday clarifiedshe is acquainted with Eric Harris and has had the occasion tointeract with him socially, According to Jessica Holliday, she isnot a close personal friend of Eric Harris, but was positive as tohis identification based on hearing his voice, Pursuant toquestioning, Jessica Holliday indicaced once she concealed he~self
uncter the table, she could hear a conversation between DylanKlebold and Eric Harris, when asked what she heard beingdiscussed, Jessica Holliday stated she recalled the forenamedtalking about: "what they were going to do now. 11 .res s Lca Hollidaystated she was frightened at t~e time and could not recall exactlywhat was being said, but knew it had something to do with actionsto be taken in the near fut~re
According to Jessica Holliday, she next heard a series ofgunshots, Some of which she believed were nrapidn while othersappeared to be single, Jessica Holliday stated the aforementionedGunshots seemed to be continuous for several seconds and seemed tobe coming f=om the northwest section of the librar/, JessicaHolliday stated she initially thought the suspects were shooting atthe 11ce t Lfnq, H adding "I d.idn , t know they had shoe. anyone yet,;rJessica Holliday stated it was what she heard next that caused herto be~ieve they were actually shoeting people.
When asked to relate that :nformation, Jessica Hollidayreported af:er hearing the above described gunshots, she then heard
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Dylan Klebold sta.te, HHere's a nigger. he doesn't deser"·,re to live,"Jessica Holliday statect she aS$umed Dylan Klebold was talking aboutIsaiah Shoals when making the abo\~ stacement. Jessica Solliday~eported after hearing Dylan Klebold's comment I she then heard EricHarris respond, "shoot 'em." Jessica Holliday reported she thenheard a gunshot, adding "maybe more than one Jessiea Hollidaytold IO ~t was at that point she knew people inside the librarywere being shot.,
Jessica Holliday stated she next heard what she believed wasa "boftlb going off, 'I Jessica Holliday described the bomb noise asiii »exp.Ioa i.cn , I felt the ground shake, I' Jessica Holliday statedafter hearing the aforementioned explosion, she then believeci icwas possible the euepecn e had. llsplic. up" because she began to hear"shoot.ing from allover. H When asked to be mOre specific, JessicaHolliday stated she could not be exact in terms of where she washearing the gunfire, but knew "things were flying on my legs likepieces of books. ll Jessica Holliday speculated the suspects wereshooting at books on shelves and the debris was landing near whereshe was hiding.
Ie nex: confirmed with Jessica Solliday, there were pointsduring the incident she could not be positive as to the suspect's'location. Jessica Holliday reiterated, due to her position undertable #13, she was unable ~o maintain a visual on ~he suspects atall times, Jessica Holliday went On to clarify moat of the timethe suspects were in the library. she could not actually see thei=movement.s,
IC again confirmed with Jessica HollidaYI she knew thesuspects had been to the far west section of the li~rary where sheinitially began to hear gunshots. Jessica Holliday indicated atthat point, she was not absolutely positive as to the suspects'movements, but felt both suspects had somehow moved over to the fareast section of the library. Jessica Holliday speculated thesuspects may have possibly walked through $eparations in thebookshelves in order to reach the east section. vessica Hollidaythen speculated it was possible the suspects had walked to the farease section of the library by some other path of travel. As theinte~view continued, Jessica Holliday indicated she was si~ply notsu=e how the suspects went from the far west section of the libraryto the far east section, but was certain that occurred due tosubsequent gunshots she recalled. Jessica Holliday went an toindicate the reason she was possibly confused regarding that pointwas due to che fact, after hearing the gunshots on the far westside of the libra~y. she remembered being hit with debris which shebelieved was caused by the suspects shooting a~ bOOks On shelves.
IO next asked Jessica Holliday to report what she recalledQcc~rrin9 after she knew the suspects had gone to the east sectionof t~e libra-rv, Jessica Holliday explained she first. heard, "Vals cxeam. then the shoot i nq." Jessica Holliday confirmed the$hQcti~g she heard at chat point seemed co be coming from the
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northeast area of the li~rary. Jessica Holliday stated after thegunshots stopped/ she hea~d additional screaming and chen whatsounded like "t.alkL'19. It Jessica Holliday 'S':.ated she wae later toldby val SCfu~urrf Sric Harris had asked her if ahe believed in Godafcer she was shoe. 10 confirmed with Jessica Holliday, she didnot hear the specifics of that conversation, but was aware cherewas "talkin-gil coming from that area of the li1:lrary. IO fur'therverified the talking occurred after she had heard a series ofgunshots. Jessica Holliday could not estima~e the number ofgUnshots she heard at that time.
During the above discussion, Jessica Holliday clarified therewere several cimes during the course of this incident, she couldhear "talking and then shooting,n When a$ked it she could be morespecific concerning the "talking," Jessica Hollid-ay responded inthe negative, statir.s it was more like umurnbling." JessicaHolliday told IO she did not remember hearing any specificstatements, other than what had been previously reported duringthis inte~Eiew, Jessica Holliday then clarified her answer bystating there were additional statements she heard made by thesuspects while in the library, but noted as yet they had notoccurred in terms of the sequence of her recollection. IO toldJessica Hollidav we could discuss those soecific statements as shecontinued with her recollection of the incident.
IO subsequently had Sessiea Holliday ccncinue with herstatement after hearing what she described as the screams,gunshots, and talking which occurred up towards the nertheastsection of the library, Jessica Holliday reiterated after sheheard the gunshots in a northeast section of the library. she againheard more "screams" and then "calking. fI According to- JessicaHolliday, she then heard additional gunshots coming from the eastside of the library tunable to be more specific} after which sheobserved Dylan Klebold walk around a IIbook.shelf" and then stoppedat her table, Pursuant to ~~estioning, Jessica Holliday seated shewas certain the bookshelf Dylan Klebold walked around was locatedto her east, but she did not know whether or not he walked aroundthe north or south end of the bookshel¥es. Jessica Hollidayspeculated Pylan Klebold walked around from the south aide/ notingshe bel~eved i~ wae ~ric Harris she had sesn walk around from thenor~h side When asked to describe Eric Harris, Jessica Hollidaystated she had only seen his Ufeet,n noting h~ was wearing sometype of "black shoe" or "boct; . H When asked how she knew it wasEric Harris that had walked around the other end of the bookshelf,Jessica Holliday reported once Dylan Klebold walked Qver co hertabler he straddled one of her legs which was sticking oue f~om
un~erneath the ~able (facing souch). Jessica Holliday added it wasat t:r~at pain,- that she heard Dylan Klebold set down some "heavymetal~ object onto her table. Jessica Holliday stated she wasce.r'r.a i.n in hex mind what was sec on top of her table was jl his g"J.n, 11
IO con£~rmed wich Jessica Holliday, she did not actually see theweapon, Jessica Holliday added at the point Dylan Klebold sat down
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the hea~1 metal object on her cable, she heard the forenamed state,"I've sot 1:0 relaad. l1 Jessica Holliday was again asked how she wascertain Eric Harris would have been located somewhere jUsc north ofher table at the time Dylan Klabold was straddling her leg on thesouth side of the table. Jes.ica Holliday tola IC ohe hadpreviously heard ~ric Harris speaking in the library from which sheconcluded the forenamed was present. Jessica Holliday went on tostate when she knew e~actly where Dylan Kleb~ld was standing, eheagain concluded the person to the north of her table had to havebeen Eric Harris,
Jessica Holliday went on to state it seemed as though EricHarris was also standing very near her table during which time, sheheard him state ~I need to cut 'em, I've never done that, that'd beEun . II Jessica Holliday stated she was certain i::ric Harris had maderefe=ence to using his knife, indicaeing he had never cut someonebefore and was also certain he pointed out it would be "fun,"Je$sica Holliday clarified to IO she could not remember exactly thewords used by Eric Harris when he made tha~ statement. IO didconfirm with Jessica Holliday, she was certain it was Eric Harriswho made the above statement. Again, that observation was ba~ed onher prior knowledge and association with Dylan Klebold and Er1cHar:"is.
Jessica Holliday stat~d she next recalled the suspects movingtowards the front of the libraryl adding there seemed to beadditional ~~nshots occurring at that time. Jessica Hollida¥clarified she could not be specific in terms of whe~e the gunshotswere coming from, but ~~ew there were additional ~~nshots after thesuspect(s) reloaded at her table. Jessica Holliday was c~rtain thegunshots oc~~rred shortly after she heard Dylan Klebold comment heneeded to "reload. 1I Jessica Holliday was unable to be morespecific concerning where she heard the aaditional gunshots, butwas confident ehe suspeet{s} left a short time later.
When asked to be more specific, Jessica Holliday seated shebelieved after hearing the last series of gunshots. the suspectshad gone up towards the frent of the library. Jessica Hollidaystated it was possible she could hear talking or movement, whichcaused her to reach that conclusion, At that point, JessicaHollidav stated she did remember an additional event which occurredsometime after the suspect{sJ had reloaded at her table. JessicaHolliday stated she remembered heari~g one of the suspects ask forsomeone co identify themselves, who was hiding underneath a cable.Jessica Holliday stated she heard the person respond, "JohnSavage. 'I Jessica Holliday stated she then heard Dylan Kleboldr ep Ly, ,,! like you, Illl let you live 11 Jessica Holliday seatedshe was ~ncertain as to whether or nOt that individual was allowedto leave the library. In addition, in terms of sequence, JessicaHcll~ciay felc confident khe above event occurred after thesuspect(s! reloaded l however, she could not place the eventoccur~i~g before or after the gunshots ~reviously discussed in thls
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report. 10 did confirm with Jessica Holliday, it was herrecollection after the suspect{si reloaded their weapon, there wereaddicional gunshots k~ addition to the brief conversation witt Johnsavage 10 further clarified with Jessica Holliday, she couldsi~ply not be cer~ain which one of those events occurred first,after the suspect(s) had =eloaded.
Jessica Hcl:iday nex~ stated shortly after the above describedevents, she recalled hearing and seeing ,people who were located toher west, "xurm Lnq" towards what; appeared to be the north libraryexit. Jessica Holliday stated it was at that poine she ~emembered
Amber ~untington and Athena Lagos climbing out from under theircable and proceeding no=th thrc~gh the library. Jessica hollidaystated, based en what she could recall, there was a lot of~ screaming" at that point. Jessica Holliday indicated she z henfollowed Amber H~~ti~gton and Athena Lagos out of the l~brar/ viathe ~crth ex~t, Jessica Holliday s~ated after exiting the librarjlshe saw a marked police unic parked in a northwesterly directionfrom ~hat exit. Jessica Holl~day stated she along with ~hose
previcusly named (in addieion to othe= individuals fleeing thelibrary) then took shelter behind the police vehicle. JessicaBclliday stated it was shortly thereafter, she along with others,were evacuated from the area by other police units. JessicaHolliday lndlcated the most seriously inJured were evacuaced first.
Pursuant to questioning, Jessica Holliday stated she recalledseeing Byr~n Kirkland, Casey Ruegsagger and Steve Greenwood whenshe arr~ved initially at the marked police vehicle JessicaHolliday stated she cc~ld net iden~ify any other individuals shebelieved we=e i~ the library at the time the incident occurred<other ttac those previously named durir.g this interview),
wten asked to estimate the duration of time the suspects weret ccae.ee i:l the library/ Jessica Holliday responded, "ten manut.e s . "~e$sica Hollidav went on co indicate she did not believe i:: wouldhave been longer than t en minutes, but did point cut; "it: seemedlik.e a l~fe~ime"" Jessica Holliday t.h-er+ noted she believed she hadoee-; ":~ld.:"~S" from t he suspect s whe!'~ concealed under table ff.13.Jessica Holliday went on ~o indica~e ic was obvious to her whenDylar. Klebcld stradd:ed her leg as he was reloadi~g his weapon, shehad bee~ d~sc~ve4ed Jessica Holliday seated she had previouslytold ~mbey Hunti~gton to stop praying eo loud, pointing out"theyt Lk :::"nd us." Jessica Holliday also reported seeing smoke and.hearing the Eire alarm during :his incident, Jessica Hollidaycould net be mOre specific concern~ng those points.
~ue to the face ~e5sica Holliday had some prior knowledge ofDyLan K:ebcld and Eric Ea=r~s, t~e forenamed was asked if she wasfar:',ilia::~ wz.::.h che l":':rencb. Coat: Mafia., j Jessica Holliday respondedIn the a:~~r~at~ve, bu~ staced she $~mply knew that group as the"':reu::;;, cce c GUjS Jessica Holliday stated, <:0 he;: knowledge, the
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aforementioned group was not a n9ang,H Jessica Holliday thenconfirmed she was not close friends wich any of the individuals whoclaim~d to be members of rhat group. Jessica Holliday went on toclarify she was not ~xactly certain as to who was claimingmembership within that group. Jessica Holliday was nex~ asked ifshe was aware of, or had heard rumors in4icating others (inadd~tion to Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris) had been involved inthis incident. Jessica Holliday responded in the negative,
~essica Holliday next indicated she did not believe she hadany additional information to supply concerning this inva$tigacion,IO subsequently concluded his contact with Jessica Holliday. Seethe diagrams utilized by Jessica Holliday for complete details interms of her account of this incident"
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JEFFERSON COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE
SUPPLEMENTAL REPORT
Defendant: (Columbine shooting)Date: 042599
Deputy D.A.:
Dooket Number: 99A062 (F)Case Number: 99-7625
Investigator: Mike Heylin
WITNESS,
Sara Houy D08: 112482
4646 aow Mar Dr.
Li~tleton, co 80123
303-789-4266
c/o mether; Saltdy Houy, (c) 303-210-2281 and father; Steve Heuy (e)303 -nO-22S0
-CPOS student,
Woedman dur:'ng
suspects left
INVESTIGATION:
in libra~1 with brother Sethinitial shoeting there, escaped
and friend Crystal
out of library after
On April 22, 1999
fer an inte~iew.
yelle'" Den'le::: "D
at 1243 heurs I contacted Sara Houy at he::: home
Jeffeo 5.0. Sergeant Ch:is Tomferd had given me a
statement form previously filled out by Sara. I
was instr'..lctad to interriew Sa=a again. Her
did not sit in on the interview. Sara told me
parents were: home but
the following:
* When askedwas part of the
him in scheol.
bad. about him.
* When asked
him at all.
if she knew Eric l'la::,ris, she said. that she knew heTrench Coat Mafia. She heard his name and has seen
Eric always weara black. She has net heard L~ything
about Dylan Klebold, she said that she did not know
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* When asked, she did not ~~ow a
~• She did not ~~ow any persons associated with a white Bronco .
• She has talked with newspaper reporters but has not given any
video inte:::-J"iews. (A film crew from ABC arrived at the home and
inter-Tiewed Sara, Seth and Crystal. I interviewed Sara after this
media inter-dew.)
* She said that she was in the librar-f for her lunch hour that
started at 11: 10 a. m. She walked into the lihrarj" around 11: 15 or
11:20 a.m. She said that it was the first time in months that she
spent her lunch hou~ in the lib~ar1' She said t~t when she was in
the library there were never any empty tables. Tllat day, slle said
there were 4 or 5 open tables.
.. She said within five minutes she heard shots. Sne. had her
camera ready to have Seth take a picture of her and Cr-istal when he
got back from the magazine rack. She said the librarian was not
ar-ound but she saw Miss Nielson come in the libra:::-f and say,
'There's a guy with a gun." She thought this was a p.rank , She
heard gun shots or bombs. She initially thought it was a paint ball
gun.
.. She said that Set.h went: to t.he wind-ow to see what was going
on. Miss Nielsen then said, "Guys, I'm serious. Get down." She
said that she saw blood on Miss Nielson's shoulder. She said that
Seth then smelled smoke.
* They all went under their table (same table that Seth initially
reported, middle section, second table from the front on the west
side.) She closed her eyes and put her hands and arms arou..~d to
protect her head. She heard two shots. She heard Miss Nielson on
the phone with 911.
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She heard the suspects go azound the library. She heard them
go to the window and to the rear. She began praying.
*do
She said that one of the
this all our lives." The
suspeC~$ said I ~Welve been waiting to
suspect also made reference to beingmade fun of by the jocks.
stud.ent with gla.sses a "nerd. rr She said
She said she heard one of the suspeots
glasses. " She heard more shooting.
* She
following
heard statements
the statements.
made by
She heard
the
one
euspeccs and shooting
of the suspeots oall a
the suspect was cussing.
say to a student, "Nice
* She thought: t"""O
talking to each other.
tl1" other.
suspects were in the liJ::rary as the,! were
She said a suspect would laugh as a reply to
She said that a girl student asked the suspact.s , "What a"e you
doing. ff One of the suspects said, "Werre killing people,R
* She heard the
saying things like,
suspeots aot as though
"yeah ft and. Ilya hoc. 1I
celebrat.ing while shooting
-it The suspects were
under the table across
then by t.heir table and asked the student
and down form thei r ' S • "'"ho 's under there?"
The student answered, flJomL It Suspect said. "John who'? It The
st:udent said, "Jar..n Savage." She said the suspect: said, "We like
you, you can go." She saw t.he student's feet r..:.nni:lg out and heard
the s t.uderrt say. "Tha\'l.k you, tha::lJ< you."
• As the suspects walked by the table they were under, t.hey
pushed a chair in whioh hit her in the head.
* She said that one suspect said he was.
.eard the other say that he, "dropped a clip."
suspects then said that he always wanted to kill
"out t.a shells." She
She said one of the
people with a knife.
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She heard no further shooting then. She did hear bOmbs
exploding downstairs prior to the shooting in the library. However,
she thought the bombs were going off downstairs as the Suspects were
already by or inside the library. That is why she thinks there were
more th~~ two suspects.
" Seth then got her and Crystal to get up and leave the liJ:>rary
out the west exit: door. She said that: she saw a male student down
and bleeding from the head by the computers. She t:hought it was a
disal:Jled student named Josh Smith. She said he was bleeding from
the head and not moving.
.. Once cuts i.de , she said that she got behind the po l i.ce carand
saw that there were wounded students. She was helping a girl ~~med
Kasey (spelling from wounded list) who was J:>leeding from a hole in
her shoulder. She said there was then a shoot-out with police. She
said one of the police officers by the car said something like, nI
.ee him. II
" When asked if she heard ~~y refer~~oe to Isaiah, she remembered
one of the suspects saying during the shootir.g in the library, "Oh
look, here's that fucking nigger." She then heard 4. to 5 shots that
may have come from the west window area of the liJ:>rarj.
• She said that she talked to a student named Justin Albers who
said he saw one of the suspects by the front door by a location
~ have rtad the foregoing $tqtemen! end the tscts contained therein are (we to the best ot my know/edge and belIef, Jo nat msiotst» rher: it contains all of the facts or details af the incicient, but only those facts abOlJl which I have t.1eeneked,
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'1. read the foregfJlng statement and the facts contained therein are true to the best of my knowledge and belief. fmaintain that it contetns all or tbe facts or deta,7s of the Incident, but only those tscts sbout which I have been
/ have read the forego;"ng statement and rhe facts comained rnerel;' are true to the best ot my knowlsdge and beNef. Ido not maintill/l that it contains all of the facts or details of the lncident# but only those facts about whlch I have been
I have read tn« foregoing statement end the facts contained therein are true to the be$t of my knowledge end bellef, Ido not maintain that it centetns 8/1 of the facts or detslts of the incident, but onlv those facts about which! have beenasked.
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JEFFEll.SON com OISTlUCT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE
SUPPLEMENTAL REPORT
Defendant, (Columbine snooting)Date: 042599
De1?~ty D.A. :
Docket Number: 99A062 (S)
Case Number, 99-7625
Investi!3"ator: Mike Heylin
WITNESS:
Seth Micnael Houy DOB: 032581
4646 Bow Mar Drive
Littleton, CO 80123
303-798-4366
cia moth",r; Sandy Houy , {el 3Q3-:UO-2281 and father; sceve Houy (c)3Q3-Zl0-2280.
-CHS student, in library with sister Sara andduring ir~tial shooting there, saw Oylanescaped out of library after suspects left
INVESTIGATION:
friend Crystal Woodmanreloading a shotgun,
On April 22, 1999 at 1119 hours I contacted Seth Houy at his homefor an intervi",w. J"'ffoa S.O. Sergeant Chris Tomford had given me ayellow Denver PO statement form preViously filled out by Seth. I wasinst:::-uoted to intervie'" Seth again. His par",nts were home but didnot sit in on the intervi",w. Seth then told me the following:
* He is a senior at Columbine High.
* When asked if he knows Eric Harris, he said he did. He hasEric in his "0 (zero) ff houz bowling cLaaa . He has been in anotherclass with Eric the previous year. He describes Eric as kind ofquiet. He said that Eric's bowling team consists of Eric, DylanKlebold, Chris Morris {he initially said Moore but oorrected himself
