Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock)equation
Peter Pickl
Mathematical Institute
LMU
13. April 2016
Peter Pickl Mathematical Institute LMU
Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation
Dictionary
1. �Derivation� means prove of validity
2. �Hartree (Fock)�: time dependent Hartree (Fock)
Peter Pickl Mathematical Institute LMU
Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation
Dictionary
1. �Derivation� means prove of validity
2. �Hartree (Fock)�: time dependent Hartree (Fock)
Peter Pickl Mathematical Institute LMU
Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation
Dictionary
1. �Derivation� means prove of validity
2. �Hartree (Fock)�: time dependent Hartree (Fock)
Peter Pickl Mathematical Institute LMU
Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation
Overview
1. Derivation of Hartree equations for Bosons
2. Derivation of Hartree (Fock) equations for Fermions
3. Special case: A tracer particle in the fermi sea
Peter Pickl Mathematical Institute LMU
Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation
Overview
1. Derivation of Hartree equations for Bosons
2. Derivation of Hartree (Fock) equations for Fermions
3. Special case: A tracer particle in the fermi sea
Peter Pickl Mathematical Institute LMU
Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation
Overview
1. Derivation of Hartree equations for Bosons
2. Derivation of Hartree (Fock) equations for Fermions
3. Special case: A tracer particle in the fermi sea
Peter Pickl Mathematical Institute LMU
Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation
Overview
1. Derivation of Hartree equations for Bosons
2. Derivation of Hartree (Fock) equations for Fermions
3. Special case: A tracer particle in the fermi sea
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Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation
Mean �eld for the bosons: The Hartree equation
H =N∑j=1
−∆j +N∑j=1
At(xj) + (N − 1)−1∑k
Mean �eld for the bosons: The Hartree equation
H =N∑j=1
−∆j +N∑j=1
At(xj) + (N − 1)−1∑k
Mean �eld for the bosons: The Hartree equation
H =N∑j=1
−∆j +N∑j=1
At(xj) + (N − 1)−1∑k
Mean �eld for the bosons: The Hartree equation
H =N∑j=1
−∆j +N∑j=1
At(xj) + (N − 1)−1∑k
Mean �eld for the bosons: The Hartree equation
H =N∑j=1
−∆j +N∑j=1
At(xj) + (N − 1)−1∑k
Mean �eld for the bosons: The Hartree equation
H =N∑j=1
−∆j +N∑j=1
At(xj) + (N − 1)−1∑k
Mean �eld for the bosons: The Hartree equation
I Assuming Ψt ≈∏N
j=1 φt(xj) and �nding φt : easy.
I Proving Ψt ≈∏N
j=1 φt(xj): hard.In particular error propagation
I Example: Gross-Pitaevskii for dilute gases: NOT a mean �eldsituation!
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Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation
Mean �eld for the bosons: The Hartree equation
I Assuming Ψt ≈∏N
j=1 φt(xj) and �nding φt : easy.
I Proving Ψt ≈∏N
j=1 φt(xj): hard.In particular error propagation
I Example: Gross-Pitaevskii for dilute gases: NOT a mean �eldsituation!
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Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation
Mean �eld for the bosons: The Hartree equation
I Assuming Ψt ≈∏N
j=1 φt(xj) and �nding φt : easy.
I Proving Ψt ≈∏N
j=1 φt(xj): hard.In particular error propagation
I Example: Gross-Pitaevskii for dilute gases: NOT a mean �eldsituation!
Peter Pickl Mathematical Institute LMU
Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation
Mean �eld for the bosons: The Hartree equation
I Assuming Ψt ≈∏N
j=1 φt(xj) and �nding φt : easy.
I Proving Ψt ≈∏N
j=1 φt(xj): hard.In particular error propagation
I Example: Gross-Pitaevskii for dilute gases: NOT a mean �eldsituation!
Peter Pickl Mathematical Institute LMU
Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation
Mean �eld for the bosons: The Hartree equation
I Assuming Ψt ≈∏N
j=1 φt(xj) and �nding φt : easy.
I Proving Ψt ≈∏N
j=1 φt(xj): hard.In particular error propagation
I Example: Gross-Pitaevskii for dilute gases: NOT a mean �eldsituation!
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Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation
Mean �eld for �particle 1�
V
x1x x x x x x x x x x23 45 67 89 1011
W (x1) = (N − 1)−1∑N
j=2 V (x1 − xj) for �xed, |φ0|2- distributedx2, . . . , xN .Law of large numbers: |φ0|2 close to the empirical density ρ0.W (x1) ≈ V ? |φ0|2(x1) (�Mean �eld�).
E�ective Dynamics: Hartree equation
idtφt =(−∆ + At + V ? |φt |2
)φt .
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Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation
Mean �eld for �particle 1�
V
x1x x x x x x x x x x23 45 67 89 1011
W (x1) = (N − 1)−1∑N
j=2 V (x1 − xj) for �xed, |φ0|2- distributedx2, . . . , xN .Law of large numbers: |φ0|2 close to the empirical density ρ0.W (x1) ≈ V ? |φ0|2(x1) (�Mean �eld�).
E�ective Dynamics: Hartree equation
idtφt =(−∆ + At + V ? |φt |2
)φt .
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Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation
Mean �eld for �particle 1�
V
x1x x x x x x x x x x23 45 67 89 1011
W (x1) = (N − 1)−1∑N
j=2 V (x1 − xj) for �xed, |φ0|2- distributedx2, . . . , xN .Law of large numbers: |φ0|2 close to the empirical density ρ0.W (x1) ≈ V ? |φ0|2(x1) (�Mean �eld�).
E�ective Dynamics: Hartree equation
idtφt =(−∆ + At + V ? |φt |2
)φt .
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Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation
Mean �eld for �particle 1�
V
x1x x x x x x x x x x23 45 67 89 1011
W (x1) = (N − 1)−1∑N
j=2 V (x1 − xj) for �xed, |φ0|2- distributedx2, . . . , xN .Law of large numbers: |φ0|2 close to the empirical density ρ0.W (x1) ≈ V ? |φ0|2(x1) (�Mean �eld�).
E�ective Dynamics: Hartree equation
idtφt =(−∆ + At + V ? |φt |2
)φt .
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Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation
Grönwall argument
V
x1x x x x x x x x x x23 45 67 89 1011 x12,13,14
Let αt be a measure for the dirt in the condensate:
dtαt ≤ C (αt + O(1))
Grönwall: αt stays small if α0 was small (αt ≤ eCtα0 + O(1))
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Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation
Grönwall argument
V
x1x x x x x x x x x x23 45 67 89 1011 x12,13,14
Let αt be a measure for the dirt in the condensate:
dtαt ≤ C (αt + O(1))
Grönwall: αt stays small if α0 was small (αt ≤ eCtα0 + O(1))
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Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation
Grönwall argument
V
x1x x x x x x x x x x23 45 67 89 1011 x12,13,14
Let αt be a measure for the dirt in the condensate:
dtαt ≤ C (αt + O(1))
Grönwall: αt stays small if α0 was small (αt ≤ eCtα0 + O(1))
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Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation
Usual approach
Control reduced one particle density matrix µΨt1
dtµΨt1
depends on µΨt2
dtµΨt2
depends on µΨt3
...Technically di�cult (e.g. Erdös, Schlein, Yau (2009)
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Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation
Usual approach
Control reduced one particle density matrix µΨt1
dtµΨt1
depends on µΨt2
dtµΨt2
depends on µΨt3
...Technically di�cult (e.g. Erdös, Schlein, Yau (2009)
Peter Pickl Mathematical Institute LMU
Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation
Usual approach
Control reduced one particle density matrix µΨt1
dtµΨt1
depends on µΨt2
dtµΨt2
depends on µΨt3
...Technically di�cult (e.g. Erdös, Schlein, Yau (2009)
Peter Pickl Mathematical Institute LMU
Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation
Usual approach
Control reduced one particle density matrix µΨt1
dtµΨt1
depends on µΨt2
dtµΨt2
depends on µΨt3
...Technically di�cult (e.g. Erdös, Schlein, Yau (2009)
Peter Pickl Mathematical Institute LMU
Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation
Usual approach
Control reduced one particle density matrix µΨt1
dtµΨt1
depends on µΨt2
dtµΨt2
depends on µΨt3
...Technically di�cult (e.g. Erdös, Schlein, Yau (2009)
Peter Pickl Mathematical Institute LMU
Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation
Usual approach
Control reduced one particle density matrix µΨt1
dtµΨt1
depends on µΨt2
dtµΨt2
depends on µΨt3
...Technically di�cult (e.g. Erdös, Schlein, Yau (2009)
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Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation
Introduction of a counting measure:
For every j = 1, . . . ,N and φ ∈ L2(R3) let pφj be the projector given by
pφj = |φ〉〈φ|j .
Let qφj = 1− pφj .
According to Ψ �expected relative number� of particles not in the state φ
α(Ψ, φ) = N−1N∑j=1
〈Ψ, qφj Ψ〉 = 〈Ψ, qφk Ψ〉 = ‖q
φk Ψ‖
2 .
α(Ψ, φ) = 0 ⇔ Ψ =∏N
j=1 φ(xj).
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Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation
Introduction of a counting measure:
For every j = 1, . . . ,N and φ ∈ L2(R3) let pφj be the projector given by
pφj = |φ〉〈φ|j .
Let qφj = 1− pφj .
According to Ψ �expected relative number� of particles not in the state φ
α(Ψ, φ) = N−1N∑j=1
〈Ψ, qφj Ψ〉 = 〈Ψ, qφk Ψ〉 = ‖q
φk Ψ‖
2 .
α(Ψ, φ) = 0 ⇔ Ψ =∏N
j=1 φ(xj).
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Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation
Introduction of a counting measure:
For every j = 1, . . . ,N and φ ∈ L2(R3) let pφj be the projector given by
pφj = |φ〉〈φ|j .
Let qφj = 1− pφj .
According to Ψ �expected relative number� of particles not in the state φ
α(Ψ, φ) = N−1N∑j=1
〈Ψ, qφj Ψ〉 = 〈Ψ, qφk Ψ〉 = ‖q
φk Ψ‖
2 .
α(Ψ, φ) = 0 ⇔ Ψ =∏N
j=1 φ(xj).
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Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation
Introduction of a counting measure:
For every j = 1, . . . ,N and φ ∈ L2(R3) let pφj be the projector given by
pφj = |φ〉〈φ|j .
Let qφj = 1− pφj .
According to Ψ �expected relative number� of particles not in the state φ
α(Ψ, φ) = N−1N∑j=1
〈Ψ, qφj Ψ〉 = 〈Ψ, qφk Ψ〉 = ‖q
φk Ψ‖
2 .
α(Ψ, φ) = 0 ⇔ Ψ =∏N
j=1 φ(xj).
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Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation
Introduction of a counting measure:
For every j = 1, . . . ,N and φ ∈ L2(R3) let pφj be the projector given by
pφj = |φ〉〈φ|j .
Let qφj = 1− pφj .
According to Ψ �expected relative number� of particles not in the state φ
α(Ψ, φ) = N−1N∑j=1
〈Ψ, qφj Ψ〉 = 〈Ψ, qφk Ψ〉 = ‖q
φk Ψ‖
2 .
α(Ψ, φ) = 0 ⇔ Ψ =∏N
j=1 φ(xj).
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Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation
Example:
Ψ(x1, . . . , xN) =(χ(x1, . . . xk)
∏Nj=k+1 φ(xj)
)sym
with χ ∈ L2(R3k), pjχ = 0 for all 1 ≤ j ≤ k
⇒ α(Ψ, φ) = k/N.
Lemma: α(Ψt , φt)→ 0 is equivalent to convergence of µt to |φt〉〈φt | inoperator norm.
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Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation
Example:
Ψ(x1, . . . , xN) =(χ(x1, . . . xk)
∏Nj=k+1 φ(xj)
)sym
with χ ∈ L2(R3k), pjχ = 0 for all 1 ≤ j ≤ k
⇒ α(Ψ, φ) = k/N.
Lemma: α(Ψt , φt)→ 0 is equivalent to convergence of µt to |φt〉〈φt | inoperator norm.
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Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation
Example:
Ψ(x1, . . . , xN) =(χ(x1, . . . xk)
∏Nj=k+1 φ(xj)
)sym
with χ ∈ L2(R3k), pjχ = 0 for all 1 ≤ j ≤ k
⇒ α(Ψ, φ) = k/N.
Lemma: α(Ψt , φt)→ 0 is equivalent to convergence of µt to |φt〉〈φt | inoperator norm.
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Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation
Deriving the mean �eld equation:
Goal: show that |dtαt | < C (αt + o(1))⇒ αt � 1 by GrönwallLet
hj := −∆j + A + V ? |φt |2(xj) .
Sincedtq
φtj = −i [hj , q
φtj ]
dtα(Ψt , φt) = i〈Ψt , [H − h1, qφt1 ]Ψt〉 .
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Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation
Deriving the mean �eld equation:
Goal: show that |dtαt | < C (αt + o(1))⇒ αt � 1 by GrönwallLet
hj := −∆j + A + V ? |φt |2(xj) .
Sincedtq
φtj = −i [hj , q
φtj ]
dtα(Ψt , φt) = i〈Ψt , [H − h1, qφt1 ]Ψt〉 .
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Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation
Deriving the mean �eld equation:
Goal: show that |dtαt | < C (αt + o(1))⇒ αt � 1 by GrönwallLet
hj := −∆j + A + V ? |φt |2(xj) .
Sincedtq
φtj = −i [hj , q
φtj ]
dtα(Ψt , φt) = i〈Ψt , [H − h1, qφt1 ]Ψt〉 .
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Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation
Deriving the mean �eld equation:
Goal: show that |dtαt | < C (αt + o(1))⇒ αt � 1 by GrönwallLet
hj := −∆j + A + V ? |φt |2(xj) .
Sincedtq
φtj = −i [hj , q
φtj ]
dtα(Ψt , φt) = i〈Ψt , [H − h1, qφt1 ]Ψt〉 .
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Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation
Deriving the mean �eld equation:
Goal: show that |dtαt | < C (αt + o(1))⇒ αt � 1 by GrönwallLet
hj := −∆j + A + V ? |φt |2(xj) .
Sincedtq
φtj = −i [hj , q
φtj ]
dtα(Ψt , φt) = i〈Ψt , [H − h1, qφt1 ]Ψt〉 .
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Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation
dtα(Ψt , φt) = i〈Ψt , [−∆1 + (N − 1)−1N∑j=2
V (x1 − xj)− h1, qφt1 ]Ψt〉
= i〈Ψt , [V (x1 − x2)− V ? |φt |2(x1), qφt1 ]Ψt〉
= i(〈Ψt ,
(V (x1 − x2)− V ? |φt |2(x1)
)qφt1
Ψt〉 − c.c.)
= i(〈Ψt , (pφt1 + q
φt1
)(pφt2
+ qφt2
)(V (x1 − x2)− V ? |φt |2(x1)
)qφt1
(pφt2
+ qφt2
)Ψt〉− c.c.
).
All terms 〈Ψt ,A12Ψt〉 where A12 is either selfadjoint or invariant underadjunction plus simultaneous exchange of the variables x1 and x2 cancelout.
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Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation
dtα(Ψt , φt) = i〈Ψt , [−∆1 + (N − 1)−1N∑j=2
V (x1 − xj)− h1, qφt1 ]Ψt〉
= i〈Ψt , [V (x1 − x2)− V ? |φt |2(x1), qφt1 ]Ψt〉
= i(〈Ψt ,
(V (x1 − x2)− V ? |φt |2(x1)
)qφt1
Ψt〉 − c.c.)
= i(〈Ψt , (pφt1 + q
φt1
)(pφt2
+ qφt2
)(V (x1 − x2)− V ? |φt |2(x1)
)qφt1
(pφt2
+ qφt2
)Ψt〉− c.c.
).
All terms 〈Ψt ,A12Ψt〉 where A12 is either selfadjoint or invariant underadjunction plus simultaneous exchange of the variables x1 and x2 cancelout.
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Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation
dtα(Ψt , φt) = i〈Ψt , [−∆1 + (N − 1)−1N∑j=2
V (x1 − xj)− h1, qφt1 ]Ψt〉
= i〈Ψt , [V (x1 − x2)− V ? |φt |2(x1), qφt1 ]Ψt〉
= i(〈Ψt ,
(V (x1 − x2)− V ? |φt |2(x1)
)qφt1
Ψt〉 − c.c.)
= i(〈Ψt , (pφt1 + q
φt1
)(pφt2
+ qφt2
)(V (x1 − x2)− V ? |φt |2(x1)
)qφt1
(pφt2
+ qφt2
)Ψt〉− c.c.
).
All terms 〈Ψt ,A12Ψt〉 where A12 is either selfadjoint or invariant underadjunction plus simultaneous exchange of the variables x1 and x2 cancelout.
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Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation
dtα(Ψt , φt) = i〈Ψt , [−∆1 + (N − 1)−1N∑j=2
V (x1 − xj)− h1, qφt1 ]Ψt〉
= i〈Ψt , [V (x1 − x2)− V ? |φt |2(x1), qφt1 ]Ψt〉
= i(〈Ψt ,
(V (x1 − x2)− V ? |φt |2(x1)
)qφt1
Ψt〉 − c.c.)
= i(〈Ψt , (pφt1 + q
φt1
)(pφt2
+ qφt2
)(V (x1 − x2)− V ? |φt |2(x1)
)qφt1
(pφt2
+ qφt2
)Ψt〉− c.c.
).
All terms 〈Ψt ,A12Ψt〉 where A12 is either selfadjoint or invariant underadjunction plus simultaneous exchange of the variables x1 and x2 cancelout.
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Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation
dtα(Ψt , φt) = i〈Ψt , [−∆1 + (N − 1)−1N∑j=2
V (x1 − xj)− h1, qφt1 ]Ψt〉
= i〈Ψt , [V (x1 − x2)− V ? |φt |2(x1), qφt1 ]Ψt〉
= i(〈Ψt ,
(V (x1 − x2)− V ? |φt |2(x1)
)qφt1
Ψt〉 − c.c.)
= i(〈Ψt , (pφt1 + q
φt1
)(pφt2
+ qφt2
)(V (x1 − x2)− V ? |φt |2(x1)
)qφt1
(pφt2
+ qφt2
)Ψt〉− c.c.
).
All terms 〈Ψt ,A12Ψt〉 where A12 is either selfadjoint or invariant underadjunction plus simultaneous exchange of the variables x1 and x2 cancelout.
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Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation
Only three types remain: pp . . . pq, pp . . . qq and pq . . . qq
I = i〈Ψt , pφt1 pφt2
(V (x1 − x2)− V ? |φt |2(x1)
)qφt1pφt2
Ψt〉
= i〈Ψt , pφt1 pφt2V (x1 − x2)pφt2 q
φt1
Ψt〉 − i〈Ψt , pφt1 pφt2V ? |φt |2(x1)pφt2 q
φt1
Ψt〉
II = i〈Ψt , pφt1 pφt2V (x1 − x2)qφt1 q
φt2
Ψt〉
III = i〈Ψt , pφt1 qφt2
(V (x1 − x2)− V ? |φt |2(x1)
)qφt1qφt2
Ψt〉 .
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Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation
Only three types remain: pp . . . pq, pp . . . qq and pq . . . qq
I = i〈Ψt , pφt1 pφt2
(V (x1 − x2)− V ? |φt |2(x1)
)qφt1pφt2
Ψt〉
= i〈Ψt , pφt1 pφt2V (x1 − x2)pφt2 q
φt1
Ψt〉 − i〈Ψt , pφt1 pφt2V ? |φt |2(x1)pφt2 q
φt1
Ψt〉
II = i〈Ψt , pφt1 pφt2V (x1 − x2)qφt1 q
φt2
Ψt〉
III = i〈Ψt , pφt1 qφt2
(V (x1 − x2)− V ? |φt |2(x1)
)qφt1qφt2
Ψt〉 .
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Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation
Only three types remain: pp . . . pq, pp . . . qq and pq . . . qq
I = i〈Ψt , pφt1 pφt2
(V (x1 − x2)− V ? |φt |2(x1)
)qφt1pφt2
Ψt〉
= i〈Ψt , pφt1 pφt2V (x1 − x2)pφt2 q
φt1
Ψt〉 − i〈Ψt , pφt1 pφt2V ? |φt |2(x1)pφt2 q
φt1
Ψt〉
II = i〈Ψt , pφt1 pφt2V (x1 − x2)qφt1 q
φt2
Ψt〉
III = i〈Ψt , pφt1 qφt2
(V (x1 − x2)− V ? |φt |2(x1)
)qφt1qφt2
Ψt〉 .
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Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation
Only three types remain: pp . . . pq, pp . . . qq and pq . . . qq
I = i〈Ψt , pφt1 pφt2
(V (x1 − x2)− V ? |φt |2(x1)
)qφt1pφt2
Ψt〉
= i〈Ψt , pφt1 pφt2V (x1 − x2)pφt2 q
φt1
Ψt〉 − i〈Ψt , pφt1 pφt2V ? |φt |2(x1)pφt2 q
φt1
Ψt〉
II = i〈Ψt , pφt1 pφt2V (x1 − x2)qφt1 q
φt2
Ψt〉
III = i〈Ψt , pφt1 qφt2
(V (x1 − x2)− V ? |φt |2(x1)
)qφt1qφt2
Ψt〉 .
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Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation
Only three types remain: pp . . . pq, pp . . . qq and pq . . . qq
I = i〈Ψt , pφt1 pφt2
(V (x1 − x2)− V ? |φt |2(x1)
)qφt1pφt2
Ψt〉
= i〈Ψt , pφt1 pφt2V (x1 − x2)pφt2 q
φt1
Ψt〉 − i〈Ψt , pφt1 pφt2V ? |φt |2(x1)pφt2 q
φt1
Ψt〉
II = i〈Ψt , pφt1 pφt2V (x1 − x2)qφt1 q
φt2
Ψt〉
III = i〈Ψt , pφt1 qφt2
(V (x1 − x2)− V ? |φt |2(x1)
)qφt1qφt2
Ψt〉 .
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Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation
Only three types remain: pp . . . pq, pp . . . qq and pq . . . qq
I = i〈Ψt , pφt1 pφt2
(V (x1 − x2)− V ? |φt |2(x1)
)qφt1pφt2
Ψt〉
= i〈Ψt , pφt1 pφt2V (x1 − x2)pφt2 q
φt1
Ψt〉 − i〈Ψt , pφt1 pφt2V ? |φt |2(x1)pφt2 q
φt1
Ψt〉
II = i〈Ψt , pφt1 pφt2V (x1 − x2)qφt1 q
φt2
Ψt〉
III = i〈Ψt , pφt1 qφt2
(V (x1 − x2)− V ? |φt |2(x1)
)qφt1qφt2
Ψt〉 .
I : pφt2V (x1 − x2)pφt2 =
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Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation
Only three types remain: pp . . . pq, pp . . . qq and pq . . . qq
I = i〈Ψt , pφt1 pφt2
(V (x1 − x2)− V ? |φt |2(x1)
)qφt1pφt2
Ψt〉
= i〈Ψt , pφt1 pφt2V (x1 − x2)pφt2 q
φt1
Ψt〉 − i〈Ψt , pφt1 pφt2V ? |φt |2(x1)pφt2 q
φt1
Ψt〉
II = i〈Ψt , pφt1 pφt2V (x1 − x2)qφt1 q
φt2
Ψt〉
III = i〈Ψt , pφt1 qφt2
(V (x1 − x2)− V ? |φt |2(x1)
)qφt1qφt2
Ψt〉 .
I : pφt2V (x1 − x2)pφt2 =|φt(x2)〉〈φt(x2)|V (x1 − x2)|φt(x2)〉〈φt(x2)|
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Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation
Only three types remain: pp . . . pq, pp . . . qq and pq . . . qq
I = i〈Ψt , pφt1 pφt2
(V (x1 − x2)− V ? |φt |2(x1)
)qφt1pφt2
Ψt〉
= i〈Ψt , pφt1 pφt2V (x1 − x2)pφt2 q
φt1
Ψt〉 − i〈Ψt , pφt1 pφt2V ? |φt |2(x1)pφt2 q
φt1
Ψt〉
II = i〈Ψt , pφt1 pφt2V (x1 − x2)qφt1 q
φt2
Ψt〉
III = i〈Ψt , pφt1 qφt2
(V (x1 − x2)− V ? |φt |2(x1)
)qφt1qφt2
Ψt〉 .
I : pφt2V (x1 − x2)pφt2 =|φt(x2)〉〈φt(x2)|V (x1 − x2)|φt(x2)〉〈φt(x2)|
=|φt(x2)〉V ? |φt |2(x1)〈φt(x2)| = pφt2 V ? |φt |2
=pφt2V ? |φt |2pφt2
⇒ I = 0.
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Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation
Only three types remain: pp . . . pq, pp . . . qq and pq . . . qq
I = i〈Ψt , pφt1 pφt2
(V (x1 − x2)− V ? |φt |2(x1)
)qφt1pφt2
Ψt〉
= i〈Ψt , pφt1 pφt2V (x1 − x2)pφt2 q
φt1
Ψt〉 − i〈Ψt , pφt1 pφt2V ? |φt |2(x1)pφt2 q
φt1
Ψt〉
II = i〈Ψt , pφt1 pφt2V (x1 − x2)qφt1 q
φt2
Ψt〉
III = i〈Ψt , pφt1 qφt2
(V (x1 − x2)− V ? |φt |2(x1)
)qφt1qφt2
Ψt〉 .
I : pφt2V (x1 − x2)pφt2 =|φt(x2)〉〈φt(x2)|V (x1 − x2)|φt(x2)〉〈φt(x2)|
=|φt(x2)〉V ? |φt |2(x1)〈φt(x2)| = pφt2 V ? |φt |2
=pφt2V ? |φt |2pφt2
⇒ I = 0.
Peter Pickl Mathematical Institute LMU
Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation
Only three types remain: pp . . . pq, pp . . . qq and pq . . . qq
I = i〈Ψt , pφt1 pφt2
(V (x1 − x2)− V ? |φt |2(x1)
)qφt1pφt2
Ψt〉
= i〈Ψt , pφt1 pφt2V (x1 − x2)pφt2 q
φt1
Ψt〉 − i〈Ψt , pφt1 pφt2V ? |φt |2(x1)pφt2 q
φt1
Ψt〉
II = i〈Ψt , pφt1 pφt2V (x1 − x2)qφt1 q
φt2
Ψt〉
III = i〈Ψt , pφt1 qφt2
(V (x1 − x2)− V ? |φt |2(x1)
)qφt1qφt2
Ψt〉 .
I : pφt2V (x1 − x2)pφt2 =|φt(x2)〉〈φt(x2)|V (x1 − x2)|φt(x2)〉〈φt(x2)|
=|φt(x2)〉V ? |φt |2(x1)〈φt(x2)| = pφt2 V ? |φt |2
=pφt2V ? |φt |2pφt2
⇒ I = 0.
Peter Pickl Mathematical Institute LMU
Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation
Only three types remain: pp . . . pq, pp . . . qq and pq . . . qq
I = i〈Ψt , pφt1 pφt2
(V (x1 − x2)− V ? |φt |2(x1)
)qφt1pφt2
Ψt〉
= i〈Ψt , pφt1 pφt2V (x1 − x2)pφt2 q
φt1
Ψt〉 − i〈Ψt , pφt1 pφt2V ? |φt |2(x1)pφt2 q
φt1
Ψt〉
II = i〈Ψt , pφt1 pφt2V (x1 − x2)qφt1 q
φt2
Ψt〉
III = i〈Ψt , pφt1 qφt2
(V (x1 − x2)− V ? |φt |2(x1)
)qφt1qφt2
Ψt〉 .
I : pφt2V (x1 − x2)pφt2 =|φt(x2)〉〈φt(x2)|V (x1 − x2)|φt(x2)〉〈φt(x2)|
=|φt(x2)〉V ? |φt |2(x1)〈φt(x2)| = pφt2 V ? |φt |2
=pφt2V ? |φt |2pφt2
⇒ I = 0.
Peter Pickl Mathematical Institute LMU
Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation
Only three types remain: pp . . . pq, pp . . . qq and pq . . . qq
I = i〈Ψt , pφt1 pφt2
(V (x1 − x2)− V ? |φt |2(x1)
)qφt1pφt2
Ψt〉
= i〈Ψt , pφt1 pφt2V (x1 − x2)pφt2 q
φt1
Ψt〉 − i〈Ψt , pφt1 pφt2V ? |φt |2(x1)pφt2 q
φt1
Ψt〉
II = i〈Ψt , pφt1 pφt2V (x1 − x2)qφt1 q
φt2
Ψt〉
III = i〈Ψt , pφt1 qφt2
(V (x1 − x2)− V ? |φt |2(x1)
)qφt1qφt2
Ψt〉 .
I : pφt2V (x1 − x2)pφt2 =|φt(x2)〉〈φt(x2)|V (x1 − x2)|φt(x2)〉〈φt(x2)|
=|φt(x2)〉V ? |φt |2(x1)〈φt(x2)| = pφt2 V ? |φt |2
=pφt2V ? |φt |2pφt2
⇒ I = 0.
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Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation
Only three types remain: pp . . . pq, pp . . . qq and pq . . . qq
I = 0
II = i〈Ψt , pφt1 pφt2V (x1 − x2)qφt1 q
φt2
Ψt〉
III = i〈Ψt , qφt2 pφt1
(V (x1 − x2)− V ? |φt |2(x1)
)qφt1qφt2
Ψt〉 .
|III | ≤ ‖qφt2
Ψt‖22‖V ‖∞ = Cα(Ψt , φt)
dtα(Ψt , φt) ≤ C (α(Ψt , φt) + N−1)
Peter Pickl Mathematical Institute LMU
Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation
Only three types remain: pp . . . pq, pp . . . qq and pq . . . qq
I = 0
II = i〈Ψt , pφt1 pφt2V (x1 − x2)qφt1 q
φt2
Ψt〉
III = i〈Ψt , qφt2 pφt1
(V (x1 − x2)− V ? |φt |2(x1)
)qφt1qφt2
Ψt〉 .
|III | ≤ ‖qφt2
Ψt‖22‖V ‖∞ = Cα(Ψt , φt)
dtα(Ψt , φt) ≤ C (α(Ψt , φt) + N−1)
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Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation
Fermions
I Microscopic system: Ψ0 = ΛNj=1φ
j0
H =∑N
j=1−∆j +∑N
j=1 At(xj) + N−2/3∑
k
Fermions
I Microscopic system: Ψ0 = ΛNj=1φ
j0
H =∑N
j=1−∆j +∑N
j=1 At(xj) + N−2/3∑
k
Fermions
I Microscopic system: Ψ0 = ΛNj=1φ
j0
H =∑N
j=1−∆j +∑N
j=1 At(xj) + N−2/3∑
k
Fermions
I Microscopic system: Ψ0 = ΛNj=1φ
j0
H =∑N
j=1−∆j +∑N
j=1 At(xj) + N−2/3∑
k
Fermions
I Microscopic system: Ψ0 = ΛNj=1φ
j0
H =∑N
j=1−∆j +∑N
j=1 At(xj) + N−2/3∑
k
Fermions
I Microscopic system: Ψ0 = ΛNj=1φ
j0
H =∑N
j=1−∆j +∑N
j=1 At(xj) + N−2/3∑
k
Fermions
I Microscopic system: Ψ0 = ΛNj=1φ
j0
H =∑N
j=1−∆j +∑N
j=1 At(xj) + N−2/3∑
k
Fermions
I Microscopic system: Ψ0 = ΛNj=1φ
j0
H =∑N
j=1−∆j +∑N
j=1 At(xj) + N−2/3∑
k
Fermions
I Microscopic system: Ψ0 = ΛNj=1φ
j0
H =∑N
j=1−∆j +∑N
j=1 At(xj) + N−2/3∑
k
Fermions
I Microscopic system: Ψ0 = ΛNj=1φ
j0
H =∑N
j=1−∆j +∑N
j=1 At(xj) + N−2/3∑
k
Results for Fermions
I Semiclassical situation: N. Benedikter, M. Porta, B. Schlein (2014)
I Quantum situation: S. Petrat, P.P. (2015); V. Bach, S. Breteaux, S.Petrat, P. P., T. Tzaneteas (2015)
I Problem: potential of leading order, force small!
I Goal: Consider coupling N−1/3.
Peter Pickl Mathematical Institute LMU
Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation
Results for Fermions
I Semiclassical situation: N. Benedikter, M. Porta, B. Schlein (2014)
I Quantum situation: S. Petrat, P.P. (2015); V. Bach, S. Breteaux, S.Petrat, P. P., T. Tzaneteas (2015)
I Problem: potential of leading order, force small!
I Goal: Consider coupling N−1/3.
Peter Pickl Mathematical Institute LMU
Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation
Results for Fermions
I Semiclassical situation: N. Benedikter, M. Porta, B. Schlein (2014)
I Quantum situation: S. Petrat, P.P. (2015); V. Bach, S. Breteaux, S.Petrat, P. P., T. Tzaneteas (2015)
I Problem: potential of leading order, force small!
I Goal: Consider coupling N−1/3.
Peter Pickl Mathematical Institute LMU
Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation
Results for Fermions
I Semiclassical situation: N. Benedikter, M. Porta, B. Schlein (2014)
I Quantum situation: S. Petrat, P.P. (2015); V. Bach, S. Breteaux, S.Petrat, P. P., T. Tzaneteas (2015)
I Problem: potential of leading order, force small!
I Goal: Consider coupling N−1/3.
Peter Pickl Mathematical Institute LMU
Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation
Results for Fermions
I Semiclassical situation: N. Benedikter, M. Porta, B. Schlein (2014)
I Quantum situation: S. Petrat, P.P. (2015); V. Bach, S. Breteaux, S.Petrat, P. P., T. Tzaneteas (2015)
I Problem: potential of leading order, force small!
I Goal: Consider coupling N−1/3.
Peter Pickl Mathematical Institute LMU
Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation
Special situation
I Tracer in �lled Fermi sea: Ψ0 = χ(y)∧N
j=1 φj(xj)
I Interaction with tracer and gas particles: HI =∑N
j=1 V (y , xj)
I Empirics: free evolution of tracer
I Strong contrast to bosonic case Ψ0 = χ(y)(∏N
j=1 φj(xj))sym
Brownian motion.
I Mean �eld works much better in fermionic case!
Peter Pickl Mathematical Institute LMU
Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation
Special situation
I Tracer in �lled Fermi sea: Ψ0 = χ(y)∧N
j=1 φj(xj)
I Interaction with tracer and gas particles: HI =∑N
j=1 V (y , xj)
I Empirics: free evolution of tracer
I Strong contrast to bosonic case Ψ0 = χ(y)(∏N
j=1 φj(xj))sym
Brownian motion.
I Mean �eld works much better in fermionic case!
Peter Pickl Mathematical Institute LMU
Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation
Special situation
I Tracer in �lled Fermi sea: Ψ0 = χ(y)∧N
j=1 φj(xj)
I Interaction with tracer and gas particles: HI =∑N
j=1 V (y , xj)
I Empirics: free evolution of tracer
I Strong contrast to bosonic case Ψ0 = χ(y)(∏N
j=1 φj(xj))sym
Brownian motion.
I Mean �eld works much better in fermionic case!
Peter Pickl Mathematical Institute LMU
Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation
Special situation
I Tracer in �lled Fermi sea: Ψ0 = χ(y)∧N
j=1 φj(xj)
I Interaction with tracer and gas particles: HI =∑N
j=1 V (y , xj)
I Empirics: free evolution of tracer
I Strong contrast to bosonic case Ψ0 = χ(y)(∏N
j=1 φj(xj))sym
Brownian motion.
I Mean �eld works much better in fermionic case!
Peter Pickl Mathematical Institute LMU
Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation
Special situation
I Tracer in �lled Fermi sea: Ψ0 = χ(y)∧N
j=1 φj(xj)
I Interaction with tracer and gas particles: HI =∑N
j=1 V (y , xj)
I Empirics: free evolution of tracer
I Strong contrast to bosonic case Ψ0 = χ(y)(∏N
j=1 φj(xj))sym
Brownian motion.
I Mean �eld works much better in fermionic case!
Peter Pickl Mathematical Institute LMU
Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation
Special situation
I Tracer in �lled Fermi sea: Ψ0 = χ(y)∧N
j=1 φj(xj)
I Interaction with tracer and gas particles: HI =∑N
j=1 V (y , xj)
I Empirics: free evolution of tracer
I Strong contrast to bosonic case Ψ0 = χ(y)(∏N
j=1 φj(xj))sym
Brownian motion.
I Mean �eld works much better in fermionic case!
Peter Pickl Mathematical Institute LMU
Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation
Special situation
I Tracer in �lled Fermi sea: Ψ0 = χ(y)∧N
j=1 φj(xj)
I Interaction with tracer and gas particles: HI =∑N
j=1 V (y , xj)
I Empirics: free evolution of tracer
I Strong contrast to bosonic case Ψ0 = χ(y)(∏N
j=1 φj(xj))sym
Brownian motion.
I Mean �eld works much better in fermionic case!
Peter Pickl Mathematical Institute LMU
Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation
Special situation
1d: easy: Momentum and energy conservation.
Peter Pickl Mathematical Institute LMU
Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation
Special situation
Higher dimensions
Peter Pickl Mathematical Institute LMU
Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation
Estimate of �uctuations
Variance of force at some position y(fermions: purble, bosons: blue)
Peter Pickl Mathematical Institute LMU
Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation
Estimate of �uctuations
Variance of force at some position y(fermions: purble, bosons: blue)
Peter Pickl Mathematical Institute LMU
Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation
Estimate of �uctuations
Variance of force at some position y(fermions: purble, bosons: blue)
I Fluctuation of force is much smaller for fermions, still largeI Correlation due to antisymmetry reduces �uctuations.I Fluctuations caused by particles with high momentum
Momentum transfer small.Peter Pickl Mathematical Institute LMU
Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation
Estimate of �uctuations
Variance of force at some position y(fermions: purble, bosons: blue)
I Fluctuation of force is much smaller for fermions, still largeI Correlation due to antisymmetry reduces �uctuations.I Fluctuations caused by particles with high momentum
Momentum transfer small.Peter Pickl Mathematical Institute LMU
Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation
Estimate of �uctuations
Variance of force at some position y(fermions: purble, bosons: blue)
I Fluctuation of force is much smaller for fermions, still largeI Correlation due to antisymmetry reduces �uctuations.I Fluctuations caused by particles with high momentum
Momentum transfer small.Peter Pickl Mathematical Institute LMU
Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation
Estimate of �uctuations
Variance of force at some position y(fermions: purble, bosons: blue)
I Fluctuation of force is much smaller for fermions, still largeI Correlation due to antisymmetry reduces �uctuations.I Fluctuations caused by particles with high momentum
Momentum transfer small.Peter Pickl Mathematical Institute LMU
Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation
Estimate of �uctuations
Variance of force at some position y(fermions: purble, bosons: blue)
I Fluctuation of force is much smaller for fermions, still largeI Correlation due to antisymmetry reduces �uctuations.I Fluctuations caused by particles with high momentum
Momentum transfer small.Peter Pickl Mathematical Institute LMU
Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation
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Peter Pickl Mathematical Institute LMU
Derivation of the time dependent Hartree (Fock) equation