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PBRSQI IjAI. SERVICE BY AhlmNA'i'IVl METHOD

State of New York, County of ss.:

being duly sworn, deposes and says; that deponent is nota party to this action, is over 18 years of age and resides

at

deponent served the within summons

upon de.fendant

on 9 , at

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of b w i n e s ~ w e l l i n g place-usualplizce of abode

s t r t ~ out either (a) or (b)

(a) by delivering thereat, a true copy of each to

a person of suitable age and discretion

(b) by affixing a true copy of each to the door thereof,deponent was unable, with due diligence to find defendant ora person of suitable age or discretion thereat, havmg calledtl1ere on ·

deponent also enclosed a copy of same in a postpaid sealedwrapper properly addressed to said defendant at defendant s

last known r e s i d e ~ c e No. ·

and depositing said wrapper in a post office-official depository under the exclusive care and custody of the UnitedStates post office department within New York State

Sworn to before me hisday of 9

. .Index No

Supreme Court of the State of New YorkCounty of

Kiuga

EDWARD ~ m Y E R .Plainti6

against

THE I HIRD PRESS-JOSEPH OKPAKU

PUBLISHING CO. INC. • 61fen' ht ,

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fOilice Post Oflice Address and Tel No.

475 Fifth AvenueNew Y o ~ k N Y 100)..7(212) 725-8844

SERVICE BY DEI,.IVERY TO INO. OR CORP. DEFENDANT

State of New York, County of ss.:

being dnly sworn, deposes and says; that deponent isnot a party to the action, is over 18 years of age and

resides at

That on the day of 19at No.

deponent served the within s ~ o n sonstrike out either (a) or (b) ·

(a ) defendant therein named, by delivering a truecopy of each to said defendant personally; deponentknew the person so served to be the person describedas said defendant therein.

(b) a corporation, adefendant therein named, by delivering a true copy of

each to personally,

deponent knew s id corporation so served to be thecorporation described in said summons as said defendant and knew said individual to bethereof.

Sworn to before me this

day of 19



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EDWARD MEYER,

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COPYRIGHT 1D70 BY JULIU S BLUMBERG, I NC . , L A W BLANK PUBL.ISJoCERS

8 EXCHANGE: PLACE AT BR OA DWAY , NE:W YO RK

Plaintifl(s)

Index No.

Plaintiff(s) designates

Ktrc•County as the place trial

The basis of the venue is

Residence of l ~ i n t i f f

t;umm.nn.a witq Nntitt

tHE 'IHDUl ··?Rr:ss.JOSEPH OKPAJaJ PUBLISHING CO. 1NC 1 Plaintiff resides at

HICHAEL CAiiriEU>, ALAN J. W E B E ~ U t A N , JOSEPH OKPAKU 1779J· 34 Street~ n e t HARIA GRACIA FELICIANO. n f d t ) S Kis = ~ 2 . 7 9

e en an s f wsounty o D

To the above named Defendant(s)

lnu arr f1rrrby UttttUtnnrll to answer the complaint in this act ion and to serv e a copy

of your answer , or, i the complaint is not served with th is summons, to serve a notice of appearance, on the Plaintifl s

Attorney(s) within 20 days after the service of this summons, exclusive of th e day of service (or within 30 days

after the service is complete i this summons is not personally delivered to you within th e State of New York); and in

case of your failure to appear or answer, judgment will be taken against you by de fault for the relief demanded in the

complaint.

Dated, New York, Decesaber 22, 1975.

Defendant s Address :

The Third-Press and .\Dkpsku-444 CentralCaufield &_Webeman• Pnrk W, NYC6 NJSieeRIJtrbblitt.oj t .I«Gtion is l ibe l

The relief sought is IIODey d.-ases in tbe ~of Two hlllion ( 2,000.000.00) Dollara.

ADOLF & MtLt.El

A ttorney(s) for Plaintifl(s)

ice and Post ice Address

475 Fifth. AvenueNew York, N.Y. 10017(212) 725·8844

U ~ o n your fa ilu re to apP ear, judgmellJ will be t aken by default f or the sum of 2 ,000,000.00With in terest from .141 1UBry 1 t 19 and the cos ts of th is action.



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hie for the interconnecting relationship of one Chicago

telephone to David Ferrie in New Orleans and Jack Ruby

·in Dallas before the assassination.

With reference to the day following the assassination,

an additional long-distance call com:lation can be found.

-The night before he ~ d e ] < l Q J a c k Ruby made a

long-disciiice can to ~ O n Where was David Ferrie

at die o r t l i i S c a u ? In Galveston, following is all-night-drive from New O eans tifrough a thunderstorm. oT

In spite of the apparent indirection employed A does

not call B but calls C who communiC11tes to B--tracks ap

pear to have been. left by these communications. Theywere not desuoyed in the government's process of clear

ing away evidence because, in each instance, the key factor

was developed _by an office ot controlled by the federal

government. Only then did other evidence left available.

by the government acquire ·meaning. The connection of

available facts; .[_errie's phone call to Whitehall4 4970 na g o before the assassinat.t 'iiancrFerrie's trip to Gal-

veston afterwara was worked out by the New Orleans

District Attorney's office before the government's c r e n c i e scould disintegrate the evidence.

Ferrie's association with the CIA began at least: as far

back as that agency's ~ u p p o r t of Fidel Castto and Che

Guevara's insurgents against Batista. He made flights into

their mountain stronghold ·with munitions and supplies.

Later, when Castro d e v e l o p e ~ hl relationship with Russia

and the CIA began to launch guerrilla raids against Castro'sCuba, no one hated Castro more heartily than F errie. Fer-

rie spoke frequently of ways in which Castro could be

assassinated, Havana harbor blown up or Cuba invaded.

\ vn en the CIA trained Cubans in Guatemala for the BayI . --



On e p t e m b ~ 4 .1963_, .the day on which Lee Oswald

departed f ~ ~ ~ N e w Orleans to go to Mexico and then to

, ; m m a d e n g - d i s t a n c e call to Chicago.u The

xfUmber was W h i t e h a l l 4 - 4 ~ 7 0 , and ~ p h o n c listingwas

a Slll_9in 1 i i i i ~ u ~ ~ ~ e d b y a o ~ _ # y E x amme

nowthe

phonecalls listed in the

aJ:teh Commis-·sian exhibits, made public in some iost::mces because they

were thought to be safely irrelevant in he absence of addi--:.

tional evidence or, in a few i n s t a n ~ becwse federal· ·

vesrigators were nnaware of their relev:mce.

:£.:: November, 196J.,_a_person. in the r o ~ m n t a c t m : ~ ~~ p ~ J i r m . J . o r which Lawrence Meyers W 0 1 t t c ~ .

. -made a long-dista.ncc._calL.to....the same number.

4-4970 in h i ~ 1]1._e_gij_jsJist.ed.in the a r r e n ~ . ~ . ~ - ......

___i l i i s ~ e $ ? ~ l V I e y e r s ' contact with J _._._ _.._Ruo yIallowing the call. On November 21, the day b ................. ,

· o P , Meyers arrived in Dallaswit the young ·

--Jadywho was the ~ ~ W f l ~ of the phone number:

w ch he and a v i d F ~ g called Tharevening

e.rs left his Dallas motel and spent an how:wit Jack Ruby-

at Ruby's rughtclub. Later that.night Ruby visited ' · ~ ~ -at his m o t e l . ~

Here we have Ferrie, Oswald's mentor and assc:x;,reu:: · ~ , . , .

New Orleans, calling a telephone numberwhich has a f a c : ~tual correlation with the patriotic nightclub owner

killed Oswald in Dallas. There is a time correlation as welL-:

Ferrie placed the_call to. h i ~ a g o on the exact day Osw:Ud -/_

ten N'ew Orleans. The owner of the Chiogo r e l e p h o n c : - ,_

went to nana,;·the day before the assassimtion wit ~ -.

who then met ·with Jack Ruby. There are millions upon _ · :·

millions of telephones in America. The arm of coincidence- -- : ·

is not so long that it can be plausibly regarded as rc:spons;l:. - ·l l



of Pigs invasion, Ferrie acted as a flying instructor at the

Retalhuleu air strip in Guatemala 8 Shortly before the as

s s s i n t i o ~ he once again flew to Guatemala for a purpose

still unknown.4

Ferrie made frequent and unexplained flights into Cen

tral America and back into the Cuban highlandswith mu

nitions and supplies for new insurgents who, this time,

were unsuccessful His telephone records aboundwith c lls

to Toronto Montreal, Central America and Mexico. Until

President Kennedy ordered an end to the CIA's continued

training of anti-Castro guerrillas at the small scattered

camps in Florida and north of Lake Pontchartrain in Loui

siana 5°Ferrie, dressed in rumpled combat fatigues with a

combat field cap perched carelessly on top of his false hair,frequendy traveled to the training areas across the lake. 1. ·

Once when a friend cautioned him about getting into

trouble with regard to is flights .into Cuba, Ferrie replied

that he could not get into trouble because the government

was sponsoring what he was doing. I t is the most pa-

triotic thing I've ever done," he said. 2

vVhen the New Orleans District Attorney's office real

ized that something was wrong with the federal investiga

tion of Kennedy's death and resumed its own inquiry, it

succeeded in persuading a young former mechanic of Fer- ..

rie's to resume their earlier association at the Lakefront

Airport. It was hoped that something could be learned of

Ferrie's flights to distant places. This objective was not

accomplished because, as an examination of hundreds of

flight plans revealed, Fe.rrie did not speak of the destina

tion of his flights and did not file flight plans with the air-

port control. He simply would take off ·without comment ··

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i · ~ H t plane and reappear, similarly without comment,

·· several days later.

However, it w s learned that Ferrie was receiving

money in a rather unusual way. On January 8, 1967, he

gave the mechanic instructions pertaining to a package to

. be found in a white car which would be without a license

: and would be waiting n front of the airport administrative

· building. Underneath the front seat the mechanic found

· a bulging brown envelope sealed with Scotch tape. Ferrie

·. took it from him, went n the men's r o o ~ rerumed with

·· a satisfied air and mentioned that he was considering buy-

ing a new car.Ga ·

Although Ferrie to all intents and purposes was unem

ployed at the time, except for part-time investigative work

for a lawyer, an examination of his bank account at the

Whimey National Bank revealed that during the three

~ k ~ J f F i a i :prto ' f& M P;&aeiir s..a.Ssa.Ssmatlon lie·de

posited 7 9 3 0 2 ~ • A few months after the a s s a s ~ m a t l o n ;F e.rrie suddenly acqwre a ge sel'Vlte statton. .e ap

parently ran it n much the same way he maintained his

apartment. On one occasion he had just £.1led the gas cinkof an acquaintance and he waved him away, turning down

payment for the gas. "Forget it," he said. The govern

ment's paying for it anyway." e

Soon after the renewed investigation into his connection

with the assassination was under way, it became apparent

thar·Ferrie was deeply concerned. There was a loss of the

aplomb which, despite his strange appearance, he previ

ously had worn. He began to call the chief investigator of

the New Orleans District Attorney's office a:nd to ques

tion him repeatedly about the progress of the investigation.

This was reminiscent of a technique he had used before:

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to pretend to be conducting an investigation, in order to

detennine what information law enforcement agencies had

gathered about him . For example, shortly after Ferrie re-

turned from Texas and was questioned about the assassina-

tion and his relationship with L.ee Oswald, he appeared inthe 4900 block of Magazine Street, where Oswald had

lived, and questioned neighbors concerning what they knew

about Oswald and his activities. 57

Ferrie's acute concern actually began in late 1966 when

the New Orleans District Attorney's office began its in-

tensive investigation.:ss At that time, he prophetically re-

marked to a friend, I'm a dead man. 119

Finally, Ferrie turned to the New Orleans District At-torney's office for sanctuary from the incessant visits of

the press to is apartment, an indication that he was be-

coming weary of the pressure he felt, and a room was

obtained for him at the·Fontainebleau Hotel. The staff

felt that Ferrie's deterioration portended a break in the

case that perhaps here at last was one man with enough

humanity left from the dehumanizing processes of the war-

fare state to provide more information on the accomplish-ment of the President's execution. It did not work out that

way.

On February 22, 1967, surrounded by empty and half-

empty medicine bottles and containers, Ferrie was found

dead. The coroner's routine toxicological tests disclosed

none of the standard poisons. The cause of death was certi-

fied as natural, due to a massive brain hemorrhage. On

Ferrie's piano and table, however, were two typed suicidenotes. His sign ture on each note was also typed

With Ferrie's death, there most likely faded into ob-u8



possibility of uncovering in the immediate fu

ture the full meaning of the assassination.

t the city morgue the coroner s photographers took

photographs of Ferrie, who was now defrocked forever

of his mohair wig, of his role s an itinerant pilot and

pan-time investigator and of life itself. Across his abdo

men remained the twelve-inch scar from the knife woundhe received on his last flight into the Cuban highlands.6

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David Ferrie was a government technician in every

sense of the word. Yet he was more than a technician. For

that reason he seems to have been unable to survive in the

warfare state, which for a time he served so well. Of all

the individuals encountered by the New Orleans investiga

tion, Ferrie was the only one who showed signs of remorse

about the assassination. In the end some residual con

science, some remnants of his boyhood years with his fam

ily and ofhis

years of study for the priesthood, surfaced in.his mind and haunted him It could be said that his death

was hastened by his own humanity.



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. -..URGENT

TO: SAC, CHICAGO

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. 12/2/63

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JACK ~ o N RUBY - AKA, LEE HARVEY o s w A L D ~ AKA · :OASH .viCTIM,

DECEASED, CIVIL RIGHTS. 00 DALLAS •

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. - . FIVE U ; ~ ~ S I ~ TH TY EIGHTH AVENUE SOUTH,• , . , I

•l f i N ~ P O L I S AND LLEViELLYN ClliNA ER, THREE NINE THREE ONE·- \ / \

...EIGHTE NT_a..-:\VEl\iJE SOUTH, MINNEAPO IS ADVISED THAT RELATIVE ··J E A ~ S WHILE VISITING M l h ~ P O i t S FROM CHICAGO DURING~ \- '..:JliAliiSGI'V NG STATED SHE AND m"NAMED .BOYFRIEND FLET. F R O... .... . . ·. . . .

CHICAGO TO DALLAS NOVEMBER TWENTY 'l'HREE LAST.\ ,

ON ~ € DATE DRANK WITH JACK RUBY AT CAROUSEL BAR. NO

CO -l"VERSATIOt; DETAILS GIVEN.

CIIU ANDER STATES AASE RETURNED CHICAGO Th'ELVE FOnTY P ~P.M. NOVEMBER THIRTY LAST VIA UNITED AI_RLINES FLIGirl' SI:VEN

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FROM: SAC, DALLAS (44-1639)

JA.CK L. RUBY, AKA.-(: C K LEON RUBY; LEE HARVEY OSWA LD

DASH VICTIM, DECEASED. CR.

RECORDS OF SOUTHWESTERN BELL TELEPHONE COMPANY,

DALLAS, REFLECT THE FOLLOWING LONG DISTANCE TELEPHONE

CALLS CHARGED TO WH ONE FIVE SIX ZERO ONE LISTED TO THE

RESIDENCE OF JACK RUBY AT DAllAS, TEXAS. THESE CALLS WERE

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CHICAGO, NOVEAffiER TWENTY LAST, CE SIX FIVE FIVE SIX ONE.

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·DASH TWO SIX EIGHT SEVEN, WHERE THE PERSON NAMED SHORE WAS

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vember 21.. · -'. ·- ·; ,, ·. -·· - ·~ g i l ~ · - o-_· l:t i r l ~ ~ ~ = ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ l t ~ e s ~ J ~ ~ s ~ ; ; ~ ~ ~ ~ : C r ; ~ c ; ~ ~ r b ; ; ~ f ; ~ ; .ve . :• . ,_: · read everything about it naturally. I n d l ~ l y I nm Involved, le t's pUt lt thl1

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·· Mr. l l i ~ s Yes.· · Mr. Glm'FIN . How did you·happen to make contact with hl.oi.-?· ·JUr. ·:&L:."'YERS. Well, here again I am trying to ge t -I am trying to remember

tlils. and I don't know whether I am right or wrong, but I guess this is the

·'way it happened. lUy brother lives in Br ooklyn and my brother is a Pepsi Coladistributor, and that particUllU' week they were having a bot t lers conventionin ·D:lllas and my brother and his wife attenrted thi s con;ention . They were

sta Y.ing at the Adolphus Hotel. I Ws si:.: D.n o a b a n a ?.Iotel. -_l -:tbl.nkwhat happened .i that I bad called my brother earber inlrtng- the day at the

_A.dolphus and was told tha t he was out at a dinner or something, so gatheringthat the convention ha d, and that he woUld-well, let me remember this. NoI talked to him. That was it. I talked to Eddie and I asked he and Thelma

to have dinner with me tllat night and Eddie said he couldn't have dinner withme tllat night. He had to go-he and Thelma had to go to this party that was

set up by some convention thing. But that he th ought he would be throug_b

with that about 11 o'clock or so tha t e>enlng. So I sa id, fine. Why don'tyou meet me a t the Cabana Motel a t l l .o'clock th at evenin g, or, you know,when you get through, and I will be in- the club a t tb_g_jJ_ll_bana is c a l _ e . .

Jl ,on Vivant. Meet me in the Bon Vival t ftoounrfii We will say hello. I hadn't

seen tillif f or some time..Meanwhile, I had stopped in to J ack's place that e"t"ening. I don t know

what time. I would ve-ntur e to sa y in the neighborhood of 9 o'clock that night.This was Thursday night, the 21st . I think that is pr etty accurate .becauseit comes back to me now.

I >islted with Jack for about. oh, an hour, I don't kn ow, just sat :lroundth ere and yakked with him . Kothing of any consequence. H e might ha>eeven br ought up thi s ama teur n ight th ing again. Of course. you realize thatwas before J h i s had s tr uck. So then I t old J ack that mybrother and his wife were going to meet me fo r a drink a t the Bon VivllntRoom about 11 o'clock and if he bad the time, why didn 't he come over and

meet us. So be said he would i he could. Well, I don't remember now -1guess poss ibly ar onnd 11 :15 or so my brother and his wife came by and withinth e next hal hour or le-ss, J ack came by . So we sa t ther e, and if I rememberright, he had coffee. I have never seen him take a drink.

Mr. GaD'FIN. Was anybody else with Jac k at that time?Mr. MEYERa . No ; Ja ck was alone.Mr. GJUFFIN. When you saw him a t the cl ub, was anybody with him, at Ute

Carousel Club?Mr. MEYERs. Nobody tha t I would ba"t"e-well, see, i t is a hard question f or me

to answer. He was the host and be wa s 'llith people.1\Ir. GJUFFIN. Was Ge-orge Senator tllere tha t you recall ?Mr. MEYERS. I don't remembe r h im being ther e. Now, he might have- been.

Thm-e were a number of people In the club I don 't re member. I know I didn'ttalk to him there. If e was there, I d idn ' t see him. Shall I go on?

Mr. GRIFFIN. Go ahead. Well , let me interrupt you.Mr. MEYERS. Go ahead.Mr. GB.IFFIN. How much time do you think you s·pent with him at the Carousel

Club? ·Mr. MEYns. Th ursday night?

Mr. GIUFFIN. Yes.Mr. :MmERS. In th e neighborhood of an haur.Mr. GRIFFIN. Now, du r ing tha t pe-riod at the Carousel Club, what do you

recall tha t Ja ck talked about ?Mr . MEYERs . I j ust have no re-co llection. I t was nothing of any consequence -

beefs about trying to get hold of thi s union official, that one, to do this or do that.

Mr . GJUFFIN . Did you notice anyth ing unusual ab out J.is behaYior?Mr . E Y E R s . He wa s just as nutty as he always wa s.Mr . GR1FFIN . Wb at do you mean by that ?Mr. MEn:lls. And I use the word ud"t"Isedly.Mr . G"BIFFIN. Whllt do you mean by that ?-

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layman woUld have.Maybe not. I don't know. And I have tried In my own mind to nllllOCinto

Jack's behavior as I knew him to this terrible thing that he did. In other word&,I am trying to-1 don 't know how to word ft. I like him. And I am trying tounderstand what could have- motivated hlm tQ do a thlng Uke this, get Into that.

Mr. GBJFFIN . Be ore we get to that point. let's see t we- cnn't try to cst.o.bllah

the acts about what you saw him do during this.perlod.Mr. MEn:Rs. Well , all be did that ofgbt that I can remember, Mr. Griffin, i l l

his perpetual running around. He was running to the callh reg1stm- to tnke I t -Ithink it is a $2 admission that he had Int o hll club, or running over to the lights to

switch th em o n and otf and up and down the variouA girls woUld go through

their various gyrntlans, and running o;c r and talking to this wai tr ess m: talking

to tha t one and talking to people In the clnh. to men primnrlly, none of whomI knew or paid any attention to because they didn't concern me.

_ Now, ran say did I see Oswald In that club that n ){ht? ' 1 1 1 1 h 11 rirllculons; : thing t or me to say . I didn t see him . He might have been there. I would have

.:1 been the most surpri sed guy In the world If he was, but do yon follow what I am

: trying to say?I G ~ Sure.

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Mr. ) EY"E:lt8. I just paid no a ttention to lt.Mr. GB.I:FFU". Wbile you wm-e at the club on '111ur<qlay ul;zht. did .Tack mention

anything to you about the President's e:tpecterl arrival In Dalla.a: the following

day?Mr. ~ I E T I : a . I don t e ~ e n remembe r t.his. '11ll il ab '.olnt.e fnct. I have no

recollection.Yr . GB.IYIT:'I" . D o you have any n'('l) lettlnn of hi;; ha.vl ng mentioned It later

when you met him at the Bon n vant Room ?~ { r . I t did come np . I rememhPr thl .• v ry rllilt.inctly . rt came up

but it came up in an aroundabont way and T will tell y1>n how that hflppened

i:l' you want me t o dn that nnw.Mr. Gal'FFI :9". First of a ll let me a.•k one further t l ~ > n Is ther e 1 1 n y t b i n

eL<e you remember about what ha-p?4"ned at the Ca rousel Club on ThursdaY

night?Mr. "Mo:n: as . He supremely u-pset. I rememh.l"-r this. He was very angry

at one of the girls who had w ~ > r k t nr him wbo h now. this Ia his story.You know t.his a in m e ; ~ b:l.c < t.1 r.1e. stnry is tM t thls girl she was

his 3t ar performer. I o nppose. and ha rt a sen ' Rt.ional art anrl evidently therewas :>o rne local ohjet t\nn r.n ;:ome o her nr r. rmm the i>t.;mrl-pn:nt of decency

t h i r . :3o he hnd her wnnlrl ;>;he plP:l:>e tone down her act sn th at bewould buve no pr oblem wirh r.bE' o r l t as t :u performance con

= nw. and tha t she had defied hi-m and dirt t:he nrt. as <he ha rl : ~ y s done it,and possibly even a. little more 90. So he ftrl'd her. He let her go. :"row this

is his to me.:\Ir. GuiFFI:N . Did this conversation occ ur T h u r r l a y night or .wn ' It one you

had earlierl l i. i\L:..'TT:Jls. I <l.Ill almost sure it wns Tlmrs day ni;rht. but It o\1ght have been

earlier. You see, it \s n f u s i n g .Mr. GlliFFL"V. Was the name ot this gir lll i. MEYERS. J ada .J\.Ir. GntFl D'. Let me ask you a rew qnt' lt.loDR. then. to try to establish wben

this l.On"'ersatlon might have ta l{en plal'e. Do you rl'<'all helng at tl1e Cnr ou.<>elClub du ring the fall or 1003 when .Tack Ruhy had a photogrnpher. commeretal

photographer, tbere talcing pictu res?

ll i. MEnms. I have no rec olle-ct\on of this.l'rlr. G B I F F I H ave you ever met a commercial p b o t ~ a p b tr om California

whose name l.s E ddy Rocco?Mr. MBn:Ba. . No ; l lDt a t all.

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KlLtO:i JOSEPH, wholesale jcio.-e l er . N:a.tion .1.l B4nker•Ufe Buildiug, asaoc.la t e of .JACK RUJlY, fur:oiahed thefollowin& infor.u.tion:

He hal lcno'"''tl RUBY since the ear l y. 1930's when htlut.ed to see him in t h t . : ~ Randolph Stree t area o Ch.ic.<l.go ,il l inois .:wd a lthough be knev tots nattc. he h4d ne ve rmet him aod did not kno\1 him peraonally. He did no c know

o f :my ~ s a o c i a t e • o r 3C t iv1t.1es of UJB"t a t t:his tilllll 1n

Ch eago. 'l'hc nex t t iQe he aaw iWBY wali in Da l l as in about1946 when RUBY a rrived in Dal l a l from Chic.a&o and openadthe Si lver Spur night c lub. , Ha did not lmo'W t.ilc rc RVB i

ob ta ined th e coney to 'opt n t h i • u i ght c lub but fee l s it

probab l y c ~ fro:a 4 t i v e ~ i n Chica.go. He •ta t cs BJJBY

never l ikod bim and t h i • h4 :. often pu.:aled b.J..D, 4lcbougb

ott one occasion when he v b ited one o f RUBY's c lubs 1DOo'lllac. name unrecalled, RUDY, wi th DO appat'cnt reason,to ld him to ge e out .and neve r come back. Ka a tate d th i sAn mo ;jlity hal a lway• ex.ifited bet\o"een clu :m,but he cannotaay exac t ly why or \olhe o it s t 4 r t ed . H e does not know of aoypolit ical . af fil 1at ions of RUBY o r of any can::oection vi tb 'the bDodlum el ement in Oa.llas o r Ch1cago o r ;my eonnectionwith .LEE. HARVEY OSWAl.I) pr i o r t o the murder o f OSWAUJ.

Ha l as t aaw .RUB'i two or th ree daye p r i o r ~ ohea5sasa1nation 'of t:he Prel i .dent iD the coffee s hop o f t.baCabana l 'btor J+lt.a l i l l Da ll a..a a t ou t 1:00 a . m where

they axcb.&D.ged a ebor t greeti.Jla .

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she and l l r unas bad dinner and then be aated l f alae -, · -- .·.would c ~ to aeet a friend of bia who ran a st r ip alloW . · _. -·- - - .She agreed, u d tiler then went to the Carouael Club whlcla __ ,. _ . __ .. ·.- ·...l s operated br J A C ~ tJBY. On arrlYlng a t tbe club, D n U . -· ,·, ·· ' - ·.Introduced ber to UBY .and the three of thea sa t .at a table ·:·' ·:· ·.· ··:f ·: · ·a ear the doonar and .chat t ;d . Sbe advised ther s ta r• • • t · . :--·:-_: _;·--<; .the club for a p p r o x i ~ a t e l f one bour a t whlcb t._ae tbeJ ··ntunecJ ·- . -. _t _ a ~ ' .She e t laate · . ·a t a p r o z l a a t e ~ ::- _.

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• • a l l t a lk and show people and ~ r a o n a l 1 t 1 e a · h • atated · · · · ··that t i ler •ta:red' i l l Dallas ant i l •onda:r Dl&bt, · •oyeaber ·Sl ;1183 a t which t tae ther return·ed to C h l c a 1 o ~ •h• &dYlaed . : .abe did aot ••e UBY agalD darlDI th la a tQ • - .-. .- _._. __: . . . . __

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206 ORGA..."'TZED CRIME IN INTI:RSTATE COMMERCE

~ I r IIAu.Er. In 1945 you worked for Jimmie La. Fontaine in Mary-

l a n d ~Mr. KEsSLER- Yes, sir; in 1 )44 or 1945.Mr. Lu..r.EY. How long did you work for La Fontaine¥Mr. KESsl..Eil. Oh, I don't know; 4 or 5 months, I think.

Mr. HALLEY. What was the name of his l a c eMr.. KEs sLER. The Ma ryland Athletic Club.*· HM.u:Y. Who else besides Jimmie La Fontaine were your

bosses t h e r e ~~ I r . KEsSLER. There was just one that I know of, and that was a

fellow by the nurne of Price.-.• Mr. HALLEY. What was·his first a m e ~

)fr. KEssLER. They just called him Whitey, Whitey Price.l\Ir. H.um. Du ring that time did you live in Washington?Mr. KEssLER. I lived in Washington. yes ; :mel after that I got :m

apartment m d lived in Bladensburg, right ueur there. ·Mr. H.u.urr. D id you work for m y other gambling houses in the

-vicinity of Washington?Mr. KEssLER- No; that is the only plttce.Mr. fuLLEr. Did you h.-now of any other p l a c e s ~Mr. KEsSLER. I never pa id mu ch attent ion. I think there was an-

other pln.ce, but I was never there.lfr. :HAim. 'Where was the other place:Mr. KEssLER. In Uarylrmd some flace .

l l i r . L E Ncar La F ontaine's .Mr . KEssLER- o; I don't think there was any place near there that

I know of.Mr . llir.LEY. Wbere wa s the other one. in what r e a ~Mr. KEssLER. I don'tknow the directions so -well there. I know that

sometime after I left there I think th is particular place was raided.Mr. HALLEY. You mean the other place1

Mr. KEs.sLEn. Yes.~ I r - H.u.u:r. \Yh ile you were working for Fontaine was his place

raided ?~ I r . KEssLER. No, sir.

H .u .LE>- Do you lmnw the name of the oth e1· place

1I r. Kt:sst.ER. :Ko; I don't.) l r. HALL 'T Ot· who owl ted it ? ··j)lh, . E R . Xo; but I thin k a 1lyers did.:Mr. H .1L EL )f-y-e-r-s ?:Mr. Ki::;:; . dou't k.1ww how yuLt spell it , but from the talk, you

know. that von \I"Oilltl hear.u r: H . u .i.EY. Did \ 'Oll CH'l' lwar that Frank Costello h:ul a.n inter-

est in .Timmie L'l Fotitaine·:; place' :Mr. lU: ::>s LER. No, sir.:Mr. A L L ~ Did yuuewr see him there?

~ f t - . 1\i: > LJ-:n. No . sir.H.\r.u :Y. W u:- Ju P.. Adoui::;?

:ftlr. No. sir.H.1LLEY. You ne>er sa\1" 1tim there?

~ I r . KEs:'oLJ-:lt. :Ko. sit·.Mr.lliLu-:Y. Ju st lHlltte o n t t o£ the other places where yon worked

prior to 1 Ha; j ust quiddy giYe the :tames.Mr. KEss Lr:J:. In l l ;lli I wo rkt·d at the Ohio Villa, in Clen:land. Ilso worked in Florida. prior to 1 )-±ti, :\t tho Plantation. I also worked

ORGA. ."'fiZED CRIME IN lliTERSTATE C0;\1:\fERCE 207

at the Riviera. I think that was in 1 )4:1 that I worked at the Ririera.I wns there I would say 3 months or 4 months possibly at the Ri>icra.Then after that back to Flori da again. t was mostly ar ound Florida.After u. while, I think it was in 19-:1:2 or l H3-1V4-2 I think it. wasthat I went to work in a defrnse plant in Detroit, Bri:;rgs ::\Ianufactnr

i n ~ an airplane defense plant. I wor·ked there until I had mushroompmsoning which brought on a t'Onvnif;ion aud I broke my back, and Ilost my job b('cause of thnt. They wou.ltln 't hire me back. Thattakes me in to l U 4: when I worked for the ~ f a r Y l a n d .A.thlPtic Club

nfter that. •Then aft er .T immie La Fontain e, I think that took me back to Flor

ida ag-ain, aml th en from Floritht back to :Xew York, where I went

to work in J er;:;ey_Mr. H .u.LEY. b0 you a n ~ your wi thholding-tax cel'tificntes from

1945

Mr. KE SSLE

R. Yes . sir.(D octHuent :; produced. )Mr. H AU .E1. did yon fir :'t go to work in J el'sey in 1 > 4 5lfr. r . ~ 5 T . E R At this place on Route li in Lodi. Let me see, in 19-±5 .

Xo, in 10·:1:5 I think the first plar:e I went to wm·k was in Pa terson.~ f r . R\LLEY. H ow did you get that o b ~l f r. KE SSLER. Th rou h- well , almost all the fellows th at worked

t.her e- I knew, an tl I also fonud out th at they wf're going to open, so Iwent there to get tl1e joh.

Mr. H. \LLEY . Who nre some of the fellows who worked t h e r e ~l\lr. KEssr.F.n. Yo11 mean den lcr s ·?::\Ir. H .\LLEY- WelL wa s in <:barge?Mr. KE SSLER. It seemed like Greeno; Tony Greeno.l f r. H .\T.LEY. Tony Greeno?Mr. KF.s,;u:n. Ye,;.1\Ir. H M . LEY . Ht• is ·al .,o b lo\\·n as u a r i n i ~llr . KJ.:s,;LFR. That i::: his name, I think. That is the wn.v you

prononnce it, I guess. ·Mr. H. \LLJ::r. H e is th(' man whose name appears on your withhold-

ill : recei pl ; is tb a r i g h t ~)Ir. KEsSLER. Yes. sir.Mr. HAL LEY. You ·got you r order .;; from h i m ~Mr . K.Esf LER. Yes. :oir.Mr. H.\LT.EL And instructions.

KEs::r,r..n. Yes. sir.1\Ir. H .\LU:Y. "'Yho else was there in charge at th is .fit'8t place in

Pat l'rson. N • .? ·)f r. KESSLER. Tl&ere wus a fellow by the name of Lvnch that worked

in the office. •l\[r. li\l .LF.Y. Jimmie LYnch?)fr. KEssLER. Yes. -::\Ir. HA I,TEY. \Yns .Terry Catena n rO lmcl therd::\Ir. KEssu:n. Xo. I never saw h im.3l r. I-L\LLF.Y. Joe Adonis ?

. )Ir. IU : ' SLF.R. I saw him occasionally, like yon know he wouldJust. come in and then.I would look n n < l aml he would be gone. Imean wa s b u s ~ workmg most of th(' tww anyway.

::\Ir. H . - ~ . r . u : t He wonlrl come in and look aromul the room wheroyou hnd the roulette e e l ~



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Relates Talk with Ruby

Night efore Oswald DeathBY PHILLIP 1 O'CONNOR

A Cbica¥o sales mana er

wbo ta ed. with Jack Ruby on

tbe phone for 30 minutes th;.

n ~ t before Ruby killed Lee

Ffarvey Oswald said Tuesday

Ruby was very upset-be

said so himself .

Lawrence V. Meyers, 54,

OI 395 N. Lake Shore Dr.,

said, I f I had known whatbe (Ruby) was going to do(kill Oswald), I would have

sure done something to st phim.

"Who would think that thisman (Rub,) would do what he

did? It's just unbelievable. ·

MEYERS WAS thrust intothe limelight when .. til& Mir

ren C o ~ i s i s S i " P P O r t on theassassination of President Ken

nedy disclosed Meyers ' friendship with Ruby.

Meyers had bad dinner withRuby the evening of Thursday,

~ o 2 1, the day before Mr.Ken nedy was slain in a motor

cade m Dallas.Meyers also was scheduled

to have dmne r with Ruby theevening of the followmg Sunday, Nov. 24, the day Rubyfatally shot Oswald, the accused slayer of President Ken

nedy. in the basement of Dall aspolice headquarters.

wanted me to come downtown. Well it was about 10:30

{p.m.) I had Just taken a hot

bath and wa s in bed watch ing

TV and reading and I didn' t

feel like gett ing dres,ed again.

"Jack (Ruby) beg.:m to criti

cize his (nigh t club) competi

tors, the Weinstein brothers

(Abe and Barney), for staying

open after the as ass;uation.

''While he was talkihg ab

the Weinsteins and tbe ass s-

sinat:ion he told me: I've goto do something about t h i s . ~"I thought at the time he

was referring to the Weinsteins' staying open. But after

he shot Oswald, I was unsurewhether he was talking about

his competitor or the assassination of Presiden t Kennedy.

1\IEYERS SAID that duringthe phone conv.ersatiQn Ruby

talked repeatedly about Mrs.Jacqueline Kennedy and thePresident's young daughter,Caroline.

He (Ruby) kept . saying:'Those poor p e o pI e. Thosepoor people.'

The phone Lonversationended with an agreement romeet for dinne- unday evening, Meyers c ~ l l e d .

'ERS, nationa l sales1

~ r of non-automotive •products for F arber Brothers •

w icb bas headquarters rm Me , sa id theph ne call from Ru by the

night before Ruby shot Oswald stands out indeli bly inhis mind.

The Warren Comro i sion in

irs report said that Ruby m·ade

the call from the home of his 11

si ster, Mrs. E\a Grant, pos- h

sibly m r e ~ p n , e to her sug -

ge tion that he vi . it a fr ie;d

because be was so depres edover the assass1narion of Pre - E

I dent Kennedy.

HE (Rt.:BY} was shook I ((upset)," Meyers recalled. ·'I 1\'E

told him that if he wasupset over the (pre idential) e

Th e ales executive said he

was driving to nearby Sher

man . Tex :, to play golf that

Sunday morning when he

heard on his car radio that

Ru by had killed Oswald.

'·I said, 'Ob. my God. No '"

he recalled. I t just seemedb li aolC

:MEYERS", who gave a statement to the Warren Commis

sion three weeks ago, said he

met Ruby at a sports show in

Dallas about four years ago.

- "I used to work for a com

pany that bad a factory inMcKinney, · Tex ., about 30

mile. from Dallas. So I usedto get down tha t way maybe

six or seven times a year, be

said.

One of the items we manufactured wa s bar bells (usedin v.e\gbt-lifting exercises).

We got tal]....ing about bar

bell and he (Rub y) told me

he was an ex-Chicagoan. I gothiffi a set of bar bells at costand he in vited me to his (Car

ousel) night club."A fter that whenever I

got down to D allas, we wouldhave dinner together or go out

fo r a cup of coffee. Jack wasnor much of a drinker. He

\\OU d r a r e ~ take a drink /

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