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Pat Oglesby ISSDP Rome2014 www.newrevenue.org. Revenue from Cannabis. 3 Big Questions. Tax: Whether: Yes or No? How much? How? Measure $ (€, £, ¥)? Gm? THC?. Whether?. Non-commercial alternatives: p . 12-13 Monopoly alternative: p . 3-5 Liquor monopolies Reversible - PowerPoint PPT Presentation
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Page 1: Pat Oglesby  ISSDP Rome2014

Ace in the Game Pat Oglesby www.newrevenue.org ISSDP Rome

Pat Oglesby ISSDP Rome2014www.newrevenue.org

Revenue from Cannabis

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3 Big Questions

• Tax: Whether: Yes or No?• How much? • How? Measure $ (€, £, ¥)? Gm? THC?

Ace in the Game Pat Oglesby www.newrevenue.org ISSDP Rome

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Whether?• Non-commercial alternatives: p. 12-13 • Monopoly alternative: p. 3-5– Liquor monopolies – Reversible– Nimble pricing– Limits profit motive

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¡Uruguay, Si! ¡Taxes, No!

• But, assuming tax model: How much?– A story

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How much tax?

• (Pre-tax Prices )

• Post-tax price:– Not too high– Not too low

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Tax as % of final price

• Cigarettes in Europe: 70% and more• Marijuana in Washington ≈ 35 to 40%• Marijuana in Colorado ≈ 20%• ASSUME HEROICALLY:– $20 price per unit (1/8 oz.?) at wholesale– $40 price per unit at retail– Next slides just show rough relationship

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Washington

Pre-tax Rate Tax After-tax

Producer $10 25% $2.5 $12.5

Wholesaler $20 25% $5 $25

Retailer $40 25% $10 $50

$17.5

Tax = $17.5/$50 = 35%

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Colorado

Pre-tax Rate Tax After-tax

Wholesaler $20 15% $3 $23

Retailer $40 12.9% $5.16 $45.16

$8.16

Tax = $8.16/$45.16 = 18%

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Tax breaks: Medical and homegrown?• Colorado: 64% of market still medical, ≈

tax-free

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What?

• Potency: p. 6-7• (Price)• (Weight)

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Problems with Price• Bundling: p. 9 at bottom• Vertical Integration: p. 10 at n. 38• Price base amplifies problem of price drop

Tax rate 100%$5/gram 100%$5/gramPre-tax price $5 $5 $1 $1Tax $5 $5 $1 $5After-tax price $10 $10 $2 $6

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Weight: P. 7-8

– Incentive for potent marijuana – So:• Bud vs. Trim: CO: 62¢/gm vs. 10¢gm.• Dry vs. Concentrated

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Other Questions: P. 11

• Where to collect: Early in supply chain• Environmental friendliness• Small business advantages

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Nimbleness• We know that we don’t know

• Thank you – More at www.newrevenue.org• Suggestions to [email protected]

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