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Payment Issues in Non- Visit Based Communication Robert A. Berenson, M.D. Senior Fellow, The Urban Institute 29 January 2004
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Page 1: Payment Issues in Non-Visit Based Communication Robert A. Berenson, M.D. Senior Fellow, The Urban Institute 29 January 2004.

Payment Issues in Non-Visit Based Communication

Robert A. Berenson, M.D.

Senior Fellow, The Urban Institute

29 January 2004

Page 2: Payment Issues in Non-Visit Based Communication Robert A. Berenson, M.D. Senior Fellow, The Urban Institute 29 January 2004.

E-Communication vs. the Phone

• Most of the new focus is on email, but some of the issues pertain to phone calls

• We may not reward phone communication appropriately either

• Ideally, the two are complementary but for cultural, socio-economic, other reasons, they may be alternatives, e.g., in Medicare

Page 3: Payment Issues in Non-Visit Based Communication Robert A. Berenson, M.D. Senior Fellow, The Urban Institute 29 January 2004.

E-communication vs. Phones – Some issues

• Phones require parties to be on together “synchronous” – making contact is not easy

• There is some data that email is more time efficient

• But clearly, phone conversation better for a conversation, which many clinical situations require

Page 4: Payment Issues in Non-Visit Based Communication Robert A. Berenson, M.D. Senior Fellow, The Urban Institute 29 January 2004.

Current Payment Policies for NVC

• Phone time, explicitly, and e-communication time, implicitly, already are part of pre and post work in RBRVS system

• Note -- the marginal incentive is another visit, not NVC (at least, when the practices are not full)

• Despite theoretical differences, productivity measures under both FFS and capitation tend to use visits or RVUs, as defined by Medicare, thus penalizing robust use of NVC

Page 5: Payment Issues in Non-Visit Based Communication Robert A. Berenson, M.D. Senior Fellow, The Urban Institute 29 January 2004.

Theoretical Concerns with FFS Reimbursement for NVC

• High relative transaction costs associated with high frequency, low dollar services

• Potential for abuse – pt. cost sharing might protect, but administrative and inducement (where co-payment waived) issues present

• Moral hazard – NVC may become add-on, not a substitute as currently envisioned

Page 6: Payment Issues in Non-Visit Based Communication Robert A. Berenson, M.D. Senior Fellow, The Urban Institute 29 January 2004.

Possible Role for First Party Payment

• Patient’s time costs may make out of pocket payment desirable for some

• Mitigates moral hazard concern, depending on how payments are structured

• Still, tricky design issues, what is the “unit” of reimbursement

• And with 1st party payments, always equity concerns

Page 7: Payment Issues in Non-Visit Based Communication Robert A. Berenson, M.D. Senior Fellow, The Urban Institute 29 January 2004.

“E-consultation”

• Based on pilots some insurers have started reimbursing for an alternative to an office visit – use an intermediary platform, with safeguards re privacy, clinical information, documentation, etc.

• AMA CPT panel has recently provided a reimbursement code for e-communication

• Insurers still have to decide whether to pay

Page 8: Payment Issues in Non-Visit Based Communication Robert A. Berenson, M.D. Senior Fellow, The Urban Institute 29 January 2004.

Increasing Recognition By Private Payers

• Prominent insurers which pay for an e-consultation include: Blue Shield of Cal., BC/BS of Mass, Horizon BC/BS of N.J.

• Although still not widespread, anecdotally in some places, e.g, Southern Cal., more widespread than commonly appreciated

• In FFS reimbursement, expansion beyond a structured “consultation” will be hard

Page 9: Payment Issues in Non-Visit Based Communication Robert A. Berenson, M.D. Senior Fellow, The Urban Institute 29 January 2004.

Implications of Full Range of Internet-based Applications

• Many of the potential uses are for administrative purposes and should not require additional payments – should be cost-effective if any scale in practice

• Many of the applications should apply to non-physicians, e.g., disease management (phone as well), but no easy way to reimburse in FFS

Page 10: Payment Issues in Non-Visit Based Communication Robert A. Berenson, M.D. Senior Fellow, The Urban Institute 29 January 2004.

Potential Uses for Email

• Administrative – Rx refills, appointments, test results, etc.

• Clinical –– Q’s and A’s about a condition, treatment, etc.– Report self-care information– Monitoring chronic conditions– Provide educational resources– As a substitute for a visit

Page 11: Payment Issues in Non-Visit Based Communication Robert A. Berenson, M.D. Senior Fellow, The Urban Institute 29 January 2004.

Payment Options for NVC

• Voluntary subscription for e-communication (and associated services)

• Fee-for-service payment for defined NVCs

• Increase value of current E&M services

• Capitation for professional services

• Condition-specific care management fee

• Pay for performance

Page 12: Payment Issues in Non-Visit Based Communication Robert A. Berenson, M.D. Senior Fellow, The Urban Institute 29 January 2004.

Voluntary Subscription

• Payment lies outside of insurance – could be FFS but more likely monthly payment for set of communication services

• Market-based solution, without need to standardize and regulate

• Patients and payers may view this as “double payments” –

• Concern about tiering, equity of access

Page 13: Payment Issues in Non-Visit Based Communication Robert A. Berenson, M.D. Senior Fellow, The Urban Institute 29 January 2004.

Pay FFS for Defined NVCs

• Some insurers are now paying for a defined “e-consultation”

• But applies to relatively small portion of potential NVCs, and not phones

• Doesn’t require major change• Can try to assure that new payment only for

substitute services, not add-ons• Amenable to incremental expansion

Page 14: Payment Issues in Non-Visit Based Communication Robert A. Berenson, M.D. Senior Fellow, The Urban Institute 29 January 2004.

Pay for Defined NVCs (cont.)

• There are difficult boundary issues• Relatively high transaction costs• Limiting NVC payments to substitute services

may limit potential, which may lie as much in frequent interactions for patients with chronic conditions

• Concern about driving behavior to certain forms of e-communication

• Equity concerns, by age and socio-economic class

Page 15: Payment Issues in Non-Visit Based Communication Robert A. Berenson, M.D. Senior Fellow, The Urban Institute 29 January 2004.

Increase Value of Current E&M Services to Accommodate NVC

• Phone time already part of E&M RVUs• Could resurvey either avg. practice or

practices that use more NVCs to recalibrate RVU weights

• Could use alternative fee schedules for practices that use more or less of NVC

• This is the most straightforward approach (unless distinguishing among practices)

Page 16: Payment Issues in Non-Visit Based Communication Robert A. Berenson, M.D. Senior Fellow, The Urban Institute 29 January 2004.

Increasing Value of E&M (cont.)

• BUT, THE MARGINAL INCENTIVE IS TO DO ANOTHER REIMBURABLE VISIT AND NOT THE NVC

• No way to assure that the value of NVCs built into the rates are being provided

• Modifying RVUs to achieve desired M.D. behavior change would be new departure

Page 17: Payment Issues in Non-Visit Based Communication Robert A. Berenson, M.D. Senior Fellow, The Urban Institute 29 January 2004.

Capitation

• Decision to use NVC -- when and how – lies with the practice

• Reduces unique FFS problems, incl. moral hazard, transaction costs, F&A

• But capitation is declining• Capitation is permissive but passive, i.e.,

medical groups still use productivity measures that would penalize NVC

Page 18: Payment Issues in Non-Visit Based Communication Robert A. Berenson, M.D. Senior Fellow, The Urban Institute 29 January 2004.

Condition-Specific Care Management Fee

• Modified form of capitation – essentially a monthly management fee that would require adherence to a set of processes

• Could be targeted initially to care for patients with multiple chronic conditions

• No preference for the form of NVC, as with capitation

• And NVC only one part of the package

Page 19: Payment Issues in Non-Visit Based Communication Robert A. Berenson, M.D. Senior Fellow, The Urban Institute 29 January 2004.

Care Management Fee (cont.)

• Would the care management fee actually be used as intended? – gets us into a pay for performance or practice oversight situation

• If properly applied, only subset of practices could qualify (but could serves as a stimulus to practice redesign?)

• Would only applies to part of a practice – assumes some internal cross subsidies

Page 20: Payment Issues in Non-Visit Based Communication Robert A. Berenson, M.D. Senior Fellow, The Urban Institute 29 January 2004.

Pay for Performance

• Could pay more for NVC structural processes measures, i.e, distinguishing among practices

• Could pay for outcomes that might be better achieved with broader use of NVC

• Reserves extra payments for those practices that earn the extra payments

• Little experience with pfp for physicians

Page 21: Payment Issues in Non-Visit Based Communication Robert A. Berenson, M.D. Senior Fellow, The Urban Institute 29 January 2004.

Pay for Performance (cont.)

• Paying for NVC structure and process raises program integrity/ accountability issues

• Paying for proximate outcomes, again, is a very indirect way for promoting NVC – would the payments be enough and would the practices cross subsidize?

• As with all pfp, concern about tiering, i.e., the “rich get richer” at the poor’s expense


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