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Pebble in the Pond:
Beginning A Dialogue on Science & Religion
Pebble in the Pond:
Beginning A Dialogue on Science & Religion
Thus far in the story (1)….Thus far in the story (1)…. God created nature AND the Bible, so
there is no conflict between the two systems that are trying to understand them;
Science actually arose and was fostered by Christianity - the supposed conflict is mythical;
Science works to understand the natural world and is always open to correction (plus, a surprising number of hard scientists are religious and attend Church regularly);
God created nature AND the Bible, so there is no conflict between the two systems that are trying to understand them;
Science actually arose and was fostered by Christianity - the supposed conflict is mythical;
Science works to understand the natural world and is always open to correction (plus, a surprising number of hard scientists are religious and attend Church regularly);
Thus far in the story (2)….Thus far in the story (2)…. There are several ways that science
and Christianity can interact; we prefer dialogue and/or integration. Problems arise when individuals use science and/or religion for their own devices;
Each of us have a framework/blanket of beliefs; adding and subtracting beliefs is difficult. When considering ‘beliefs’, we need to use triangulation.
Science moves forward using paradigms; paradigms are resistance to change. Paradigm shifts occur in many areas other than science.
There are several ways that science and Christianity can interact; we prefer dialogue and/or integration. Problems arise when individuals use science and/or religion for their own devices;
Each of us have a framework/blanket of beliefs; adding and subtracting beliefs is difficult. When considering ‘beliefs’, we need to use triangulation.
Science moves forward using paradigms; paradigms are resistance to change. Paradigm shifts occur in many areas other than science.
All previous classes available at
www.timlightfoot.com/Focus
All previous classes available at
www.timlightfoot.com/Focus
Today:The Genetics of
Christianity
Today:The Genetics of
Christianity
The God GeneDr. Dean Hamer
The God GeneDr. Dean Hamer
Proposes that there is at least one gene that predisposes humans to be spiritual.
Proposes that there is at least one gene that predisposes humans to be spiritual.
Linkage is the thingLinkage is the thing If you can measure a trait, you can tell if
it is inherited. CR Cloninger - Developed the self-
transcendence scale (STS) Hamer & colleagues gave the STS to
328 males & 673 females (avg. age =32)
They then correlated these results with whether specific genes were ‘active’
If you can measure a trait, you can tell if it is inherited.
CR Cloninger - Developed the self-transcendence scale (STS)
Hamer & colleagues gave the STS to 328 males & 673 females (avg. age =32)
They then correlated these results with whether specific genes were ‘active’
The “God” gene?The “God” gene? Found an association (linkage)
between variations in VMAT2 and STS.
Just one base pair difference (either A or C)
If the subjects had a “C” base in this gene then they scored much higher on STS (47% of total).
Found an association (linkage) between variations in VMAT2 and STS.
Just one base pair difference (either A or C)
If the subjects had a “C” base in this gene then they scored much higher on STS (47% of total).
LimitationsLimitations
Does scale measure spirituality? Probable that there is more than
one gene Tells us nothing about how the
protein produced leads to spirituality.
Does scale measure spirituality? Probable that there is more than
one gene Tells us nothing about how the
protein produced leads to spirituality.
Adam & Eve - genetic style
Adam & Eve - genetic style
Mitochondrial Eve - 150,000 years agoCann, et al. Nature 325, 31 - 36, 1987
Y-chromosome Adam - 60-90,000 y agoYuehai, et al. Science 292, 1151-1153, 2001
Most Recent Common Ancestor (MRCA) 3000 - 1000 B.C.
Rohde, et al. Nature 431: 562-566, 2004
Mitochondrial Eve - 150,000 years agoCann, et al. Nature 325, 31 - 36, 1987
Y-chromosome Adam - 60-90,000 y agoYuehai, et al. Science 292, 1151-1153, 2001
Most Recent Common Ancestor (MRCA) 3000 - 1000 B.C.
Rohde, et al. Nature 431: 562-566, 2004
Extensions to the real-world
Extensions to the real-world
Genetic applications all around us
Food we eat, clothes we wear
As Christians, are we ready to deal with the
implications?
Genetic applications all around us
Food we eat, clothes we wear
As Christians, are we ready to deal with the
implications?
The Sputnik of our timeThe Sputnik of our time
Satellite Cells (aka: STEM CELLS) NOT JUST EMBRYONIC STEM CELLS
Precursor cells The promise?
Learn what activates and directs the cell to form certain types of cells
Satellite Cells (aka: STEM CELLS) NOT JUST EMBRYONIC STEM CELLS
Precursor cells The promise?
Learn what activates and directs the cell to form certain types of cells
Chips for allChips for all
Microarrays Glass slides - 1 cm x 1 cm Put a sample on the microarray Find out which genes are active Current chips cover
25,000 - 38,000 genes
Microarrays Glass slides - 1 cm x 1 cm Put a sample on the microarray Find out which genes are active Current chips cover
25,000 - 38,000 genes
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A pinch of this, a snip of that
A pinch of this, a snip of that
SNPs Single nucleotide polymorphism
Predisposition to diseases The promise?
Quick determination of predisposition to certain diseases
Individualized drug prescriptions
SNPs Single nucleotide polymorphism
Predisposition to diseases The promise?
Quick determination of predisposition to certain diseases
Individualized drug prescriptions
Nature’s light switchNature’s light switch siRNA
Short-interfering RNA
siRNA Short-interfering RNA
DNA RNA Protein
Transcription Translation
DNA RNA
Transcription
Protein
Translation
siRNA
The promise:A way to control viruses, bacteria, genetic diseases, etc., etc.
So, are you ready?So, are you ready?
Joe Bob and Jim Bob
aka: The Follow-up to Dr. Sally Jessie Springer
(the unseen commercial)
Joe Bob and Jim Bob
aka: The Follow-up to Dr. Sally Jessie Springer
(the unseen commercial)
Joe Bob and Jim Bob(the unseen commercial)
Joe Bob and Jim Bob(the unseen commercial)
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The Elephant in the RoomThe Elephant in the Room
The E-word: some thoughts
The E-word: some thoughts
Focus class experience Not going to justify, defend, or argue for
a specific side Remember, evolution is correctly used
as a scientific construct, not a philosophical construct
Just be informed use triangulation Tim’s Evolution Triangulation
Focus class experience Not going to justify, defend, or argue for
a specific side Remember, evolution is correctly used
as a scientific construct, not a philosophical construct
Just be informed use triangulation Tim’s Evolution Triangulation
The E-word: some thoughts
The E-word: some thoughts
One benefit of controversy: science goes to answer questions e.g. evolution of the eye e.g. monkeys typing Shakespeare
Experience counts
One benefit of controversy: science goes to answer questions e.g. evolution of the eye e.g. monkeys typing Shakespeare
Experience counts
The Elephant in the RoomTerry Kettering (with apologies).
The Elephant in the RoomTerry Kettering (with apologies).
There's an elephant in the room.There's an elephant in the room.It is large and squatting, so it is hard to get around it.It is large and squatting, so it is hard to get around it.
Yet we squeeze by with "How are you?" and "I'm fine…Yet we squeeze by with "How are you?" and "I'm fine…And a thousand other forms of trivial chatter.And a thousand other forms of trivial chatter.
We talk about the weather.We talk about the weather.We talk about work.We talk about work.
We talk about everything else…We talk about everything else…Except the elephant in the room.Except the elephant in the room.
We all know it is there.We all know it is there.We are thinking about the elephant as we talk together.We are thinking about the elephant as we talk together.
It is constantly on our minds.It is constantly on our minds.
The Elephant in the RoomThe Elephant in the Room
It has hurt us all.It has hurt us all.But we do not talk about the elephant in the room.But we do not talk about the elephant in the room.
Oh, please, say its name.Oh, please, say its name.Oh, please, say ”evolution" again.Oh, please, say ”evolution" again.
Oh, please, let's talk about the elephant in the room.Oh, please, let's talk about the elephant in the room.For if we talk about it,For if we talk about it,
Perhaps we can talk about its life.Perhaps we can talk about its life.Can I say ”evolution" to you and not have you look away:Can I say ”evolution" to you and not have you look away:
For if I cannot,For if I cannot,then you are leaving me alone…then you are leaving me alone…
in a room…in a room…with an elephant. with an elephant.
Terry Kettering (with apologies).
Next week:
Truth & the Dialogue
Next week:
Truth & the Dialogue